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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #120 on: January 30, 2018, 10:35:43 am »
"She should have known better" than to take a tour of his house doesn't excuse him from flashing her." 

Or flashing his **** at an 18-year old who was drinking at his house.

Come on, the guy is a politician.  This shows ZERO judgment.

I don't believe that was what happened. It makes no sense on any level.
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #121 on: January 30, 2018, 10:45:11 am »
Fair enough, but that is a different response from 'what did he do' or 'he didn't do anything'

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #122 on: January 30, 2018, 01:20:38 pm »
I agree with much of what you wrote, Rue.  A few minor quibbles.

In fact the girl was 18.  Underage in this instance refers to the legal drinking age in Ontario, which is 19.  The girl was drinking alcohol underage.  It's pretty bizarre that this is being used as an attack on Brown, as if he were the one responsible for checking her ID before letting her consume liquor.

People remember Ghomeshi being acquitted on the sexual assault charges, but seem to forget that he was also a serial sexual harasser at CBC.  He was acquitted of the first, but never put on trial for the latter.

He would give unwanted "massages" to female staff, he would walk up behind them and grind his Ghomeshi against their behinds, he talked about them in vulgar and demeaning ways. And when numerous female staff at the CBC complained about him and were told, basically, that if they didn't like it they could go elsewhere.  He was "the talent", and they were their to service him.  Ghomeshi was a pig to his female staff, and CBC were his enablers.

Ghomeshi's sexual assault trial was a case of prosecutorial incompetence.  But Ghomeshi's workplace behavior is exactly the kind of thing #MeToo was supposed to be about.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/cbc-protected-jian-ghomeshi-say-two-ex-colleagues-with-new-harassment-claims


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Sorry just read this. Totally agree.
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #123 on: January 30, 2018, 01:24:25 pm »
Or flashing his **** at an 18-year old who was drinking at his house.

Come on, the guy is a politician.  This shows ZERO judgment.
That may be so, but it worked, didn't it?

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #124 on: January 30, 2018, 01:34:54 pm »
That may be so, but it worked, didn't it?

Yes, and like every man who ever lived he made a bad decision to get some sex.  Sorry for your luck, flasher man...

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #125 on: January 30, 2018, 02:11:24 pm »
You realize that you concede that it might well be that most women aren't interested in younger men in the second sentence and then repudiate any possibility that this a 'general phenomenon' in the one which follows?

A good synonym for 'most women' would be 'a general phenomenon.'

And I'll take a listing of all the consistent academic studies over the years on this from a psychologist over a NYT culture writer. I'll also take her word and that of other academics that it IS in fact a psychological/instinctual issue rather than entirely cultural too.

The NYT article is full of studies and surveys and it's well researched.

And I'm not a mind-reader, if you are talking about generalizations don't say things like:

Womens instincts, as I have posted earlier, are entirely different and they rarely have much sexual interest in young men. They have interest in an actual relationship with them even less often.

It sure sounds like it's some kind of rarity when it's not.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #126 on: January 31, 2018, 04:01:01 pm »
Yes, and like every man who ever lived he made a bad decision to get some sex.  Sorry for your luck, flasher man...

You are awful smug and self righteousness on this topic.  Mist be quite something to have such holier then thou testacles. I am sure they shine forth with divinity.
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #127 on: January 31, 2018, 05:25:28 pm »
You are awful smug and self righteousness on this topic.  Mist be quite something to have such holier then thou testacles. I am sure they shine forth with divinity.

I don't think I have said that what he did was morally reprehensible as much as I have said it was untenable, politically.  That means the accusation of self-righteousness on my part is incorrect.

I also never said I am innocent of sexual harassment.  I wouldn't go into politics, and I have even said on here that I am guilty. 

But I am sure you will not read this and bring up your dumb accusation many times in the future.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #128 on: February 01, 2018, 09:35:18 am »
You are awful smug and self righteousness on this topic.  Mist be quite something to have such holier then thou testacles. I am sure they shine forth with divinity.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #129 on: February 01, 2018, 11:27:35 am »
Personally I'm glad this whole situation gives a chance for Caroline Mulroney to become leader & premier and continue the magnificent political dynasty of her father.  Since her daddy brought in the very popular GST, I hope she brings in the CST (Caroline Sales Tax), maybe at a 30% rate so Ontario's hydro system can be fixed.
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #130 on: February 01, 2018, 03:28:49 pm »
https://twitter.com/CBCToronto/status/959170274343211008

Caroline Mulroney -> IN.

Ontario PCs now have a clear choice: Caroline Mulroney and a future or DoFo and a toilet.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #131 on: February 01, 2018, 03:38:31 pm »
One must wonder if Doug wouldn't have the same DNA as his brother, and does Ontario want another drugged up, drunk driving, weirdo running the province.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #132 on: February 01, 2018, 04:44:37 pm »
He's a non-drinker apparently.  He's the embodiment of the disoriented and disinterested voter.

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« Reply #133 on: February 01, 2018, 04:58:32 pm »
I suspect Mulroney will be a catchier name in Ont. They may not want to take a chance on another Ford.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #134 on: February 01, 2018, 05:37:51 pm »
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You seem paralyzed. Have you gone to a doctor?  Maybe some prune juice JMT? Hmmm?

Here let me refresh you as to why I called MH's words out as smug self righteous crap:

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2018, 10:55:24 am »
Do you think it's ok to show your **** to somebody who works for you ?  That's one of the allegations. 

Clarification for the confused JMT:  The above words are a misrepresentation and make it sound like Brown  exploited his position at work to gain sexual access over a person.
There is zero evidence of that. Also the above wording is bullshit. It makes it sound like he pulled his pecker out at work without her consent.
The question also misses the very point of the issue. Each day across the world, millions of people phack their employers and employees on consent.
If MH or you want to be the moral police on who adults should phack  its smug not to mention farsical.

Let's be clear-there is zero evidence Pat Brown forced his **** on anyone. He did not flash it. He was in a bed-room with someone. They were in his phacking bed room. What did they go up there for?
In MH's world he watched far too many Rock Hudson-Doris Day movies.
 


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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2018, 10:57:26 am »

He didn't drink himself.  And he had booze to give to a young woman who came over ?  That's just weird to me.   

Clarification to the confused JMT: Read the above. Another crock of self righteous crap. In MH's world its wierd to offer someone a drink when they come over. Yah right. He should have played scrabble and never have put down on the board the word ****. Got it.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2018, 12:00:09 pm »

Boss showing employee **** ?


Clarification to the confused JMT: Read it. Seems MH is obsessed with the fact that a man might show his **** in his bed-room late at night to a woman who came up to his bed-room on her consent because he is her
boss? Yah I know its a difficult point for him to grasp if you excuse the pun.

Oh but wait....there was more in the above because MH stated:

"Yes.  Public figures are expected to be leaders, that's how it is.  It seems, though, that if you claim not to be one you might get an easier ride. "

Yes indeed. Unmarried politicians should not have sex and no one should  phack theuir employees. Got it. Sounds like a Priest's sermon-yah the one from the Priest who never touched himself once let alone choir boys.

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« Reply #106 on: January 29, 2018, 05:52:15 am »
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Off topic, also: If I were single I would not 'get with' women younger than me.  That would be a dead end, and would just feel like I was tricking stupid people into being with me.  I know lots of women my own age, and we flirt and appreciate each other on the whole.

I have known guys my age who pursued women in their 20s and they look foolish.  The guy who catches one looks even worse.

Clarification to the confused JMT: Read the above. What because that is MH's way of doing things its to be pronounced as he did like he's an authority on what age men should look for in women? What crap. Plenty of older men date younger women and vice versa. Biological age is but one criteria of selection for most of us. Pat Brown did not go after a minor. If he did its a legal issue and  it could be manifestations of hebeophilia or pedophilia depending on the age difference. It was not. There was no forcing of sex with minors.  End of story.

The fact MH has moral standards about age means sweet phack all in terms of how the law defines sexual behavour or how Pat Brown or anyone else should. Once there is no legal issue as to majority age, the issue is CONSENT something MH seems to have drifted from in favour of his own mor;l pronouncements as to when and where we men pull out our penises. Thank you his opinion means nothing to me and my ****.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #124 on: January 30, 2018, 01:34:54 pm »
Yes, and like every man who ever lived he made a bad decision to get some sex.  Sorry for your luck, flasher man...

Clarification to the confused JMT: Read the above. Its written sloppily as if  making a decision to get some sex is automatically wrong and that Pat Brown should  not have sex and was a flasher. Bull crap x 2.

Hope that clarified things.

That said I wish to  I assure all women on this board, particularly Dia, Godess and Kimmy my **** is under lock and key.

The fact that I personally believe men my age 61 look ridiculous with women in their 20's means sweet phack all. What 2 consenting adults without coercion do is not my business and I do not want to  hear about it.

Molest a child or teen ager, force yourself on someone then yes I want the state to step in. Otherwise it aint my business. I am more concerned with what Kathleen Wynne and her stink legion of Liberals have done.





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