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« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2018, 09:48:55 pm »
The 50%+1 is for change.  That's counted first.  Then if there's a vote to change they look at the options people voted for. 

Did you not even read your ballot information?


Yes I did and it forced you to vote for a choice you didn't want in the first place or have no say at all. On top of that, a couple of those choices had issues that were to be decided later, like whether some positions would be filled by people on the ballot or party appointees. They couldn't even give complete choices.
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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2018, 12:11:45 am »
Mr. Horgan sets the gas prices Kimmy?  That's a bit silly and partisan.

Well, if BC's government had lower fuel taxes, gas would be cheaper.

If there was more pipeline capacity and the lower mainland had some grown-up refineries instead of the single Fisher-Price refinery there, gas would be cheaper.

but, you know.  Killer whales and natives.

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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2018, 08:57:30 am »
Well, if BC's government had lower fuel taxes, gas would be cheaper.

If there was more pipeline capacity and the lower mainland had some grown-up refineries instead of the single Fisher-Price refinery there, gas would be cheaper.

but, you know.  Killer whales and natives.

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Who am I replying to....   TimG?   So you donít think the there should be a price on CO2 emissions?
 
I know you know that the pipeline expansion is all about exports and wonít do anything for local prices....    plus, why do we need an expansion now if the Alberta government is legislating a drop in production? 
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« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2018, 09:41:15 am »
Who am I replying to....   TimG?   So you donít think the there should be a price on CO2 emissions?

Alberta has a CO2 tax, and their gas is still 30 cents cheaper than ours. You don't think being dependent on a single 24" pipeline and imports from Washington for all our fossil fuel state impacts gas prices here?

I know you know that the pipeline expansion is all about exports and wonít do anything for local prices....    plus, why do we need an expansion now if the Alberta government is legislating a drop in production?

BC is a market. Our money is just as good as China's. If BC had any refining capacity our own, some of the increased capacity from Alberta could be put to use right here.  Or more of Trans 1 Mountain could be used to provide fuel for BC if the expansion was providing capacity for export.

The Alberta production cut costs Canada millions of dollars in lost revenue that might come in handy if we plan to continue to pay for social programs.

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« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2018, 09:46:09 am »
Who am I replying to....   TimG?   So you donít think the there should be a price on CO2 emissions?
 
I know you know that the pipeline expansion is all about exports and wonít do anything for local prices....    plus, why do we need an expansion now if the Alberta government is legislating a drop in production?

Taxes are a big component of fuel prices.

Duh, they are reducing production because they have no way of getting it to market and have to store it  because there is no friggin pipeline. BTW, The existing TM made $300M last year. Triple capacity and you are looking at a billion. Thatís why people build them, they make money.
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« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2018, 10:01:33 am »
Taxes are a big component of fuel prices.

Duh, they are reducing production because they have no way of getting it to market and have to store it  because there is no friggin pipeline. BTW, The existing TM made $300M last year. Triple capacity and you are looking at a billion. Thatís why people build them, they make money.

Nonsense.  Oil companies would keep production at its current level if they were allowed.  The production cut has nothing to do with a lack of pipeline capacity. 
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« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2018, 11:40:30 am »
Nonsense.  Oil companies would keep production at its current level if they were allowed.  The production cut has nothing to do with a lack of pipeline capacity.

Sounds like a combination of a drop in the price of bitumen blend, AND a flut caused by lack of pipeline capacity. Some companies are doing very well from the production cut.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4723557/alberta-oil-production-cuts-winners-losers/

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2018, 12:03:37 pm »
Nonsense.  Oil companies would keep production at its current level if they were allowed.  The production cut has nothing to do with a lack of pipeline capacity.

Alberta has 35 million barrels of oil in storage. Output exceeds rail and pipeline capacity by 190,000 barrels per day.

https://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN1O203A-OCADN
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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2018, 01:01:25 pm »
Mr. Horgan sets the gas prices Kimmy?  That's a bit silly and partisan.

Mr. Ford claims he is setting gas prices - by 10 cents a litre.

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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2018, 01:20:58 pm »
When you factor in BC's carbon tax, the GVRD ties Newfoundland for the highest gas taxes in the country, the rest of BC comes in second. Then add 10 cents federal fuel tax plus GST on the total. GVRD and Newfoundland residents pay over 2 cents a litre GST on taxes alone. GVRD residents pay nearly 50 cents a litre in tax.
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« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2018, 01:36:40 pm »
Another factor, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec and the Atlantic provinces all refine more product than they consume. The other western provinces refine less than half of what they consume. Plus most of the oil they do refine has to be transported from Alberta

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/crude-petroleum/4563
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« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2019, 11:56:26 am »
BC byelection confirms NDP/Green slim majority.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-bc-liberals-plan-a-housecleaning-after-by-election-loss/

Usually byelections are bad for the ruling party, they tell us.  Also, a poll by Mainstreet came out just prior to the byelection saying the Liberals had a 13 point lead.

https://theprovince.com/news/bc-politics/mike-smyth-ndp-romped-to-crucial-win-as-green-vote-collapsed
 
Greens only received 7%, compared to 20% in the general election.  People were voting strategically.  If the Greens would have received 20%, the government probably would have fallen.

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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2019, 01:28:58 am »
BC NDP convention passed a resolution to lower the voting age to 16.   I think this is a great idea, but doesnít go far enough.   I think there should also be a maximum voting age of 75.   Those people are too old to have any long term stake in the province/city in which they live and, therefor, shouldnít get to influence how the province/city will go forward into the future.


16 year olds are old enough to work and pay taxes...   no taxation without representation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-ndp-party-resolutions-lowering-voting-age-to-16-1.5371701

Other things included not allowing parking fees at hospitals.   This one has pissed me off.  Iíve had to be in the hospital a few times for unpleasant situations.  Twice Iíve come out to find parking tickets on my vehicle.  They are taking advantage of people in vulnerable positions.   Doesnít sit well with me.  Glad to see the NDP take a stand.

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Pressuring the federal government to deliver more affordable cell phone and internet options.

Not bad...   I think if weíre being ripped off the CRTC should be protecting consumers....  (Iím assuming itís the CRTC that governs that stuff....?)


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Enhancing the diversity of representation so it reflects the diversity of British Columbia.

In principle, this sounds wunderbar.  In practice, it probably means quotas and sounds like something out of the SJW playbook...    not enthused about this one.


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Recommitting to investing in childcare.

Pay out of your own damn pocketbook if you choose to have kids and canít, or donít like them enough, to stay home with them.  Unless youíre poor.   Then I think taxpayers should fund it.

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Supporting the Period Promise campaign by encouraging government to offer free menstrual products in all public buildings in BC.

In all public buildings???   Hmmmm.....   maybe just schools/universities/hospitals/welfare offices?   I doubt the Ministry of Natural Resources offices needs a tampon dispenser.  But I donít know for certain.

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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2019, 02:29:44 am »

16 year olds are old enough to work and pay taxes...   no taxation without representation.

My initial reaction was "but 16 year olds are dumb" but then I remembered that adults are dumb too.


Not bad...   I think if weíre being ripped off the CRTC should be protecting consumers....  (Iím assuming itís the CRTC that governs that stuff....?)

I recall something about Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains giving the CRTC instruction to encourage more virtual network operators to enter the market last year.  Of course during the election several parties promised to tackle high cell phone costs; virtual network operators seems like the most likely way to do that.  I think most of the virtual network operators here are actually just divisions of the big 3 and just create the illusion of competition.  Big cities have some alternative providers, but here in the hinterlands we're kind of stuck with the big 3 and their sock-puppets.


In principle, this sounds wunderbar.  In practice, it probably means quotas and sounds like something out of the SJW playbook...    not enthused about this one.

I don't like the sound of it either.

Pay out of your own damn pocketbook if you choose to have kids and canít, or donít like them enough, to stay home with them.  Unless youíre poor.   Then I think taxpayers should fund it.

I think there ought to be means testing...

In all public buildings???   Hmmmm.....   maybe just schools/universities/hospitals/welfare offices?   I doubt the Ministry of Natural Resources offices needs a tampon dispenser.  But I donít know for certain.

I can't see the harm.

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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2019, 11:56:17 am »
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BC NDP convention passed a resolution to lower the voting age to 16.   I think this is a great idea, but doesnít go far enough.   I think there should also be a maximum voting age of 75.   Those people are too old to have any long term stake in the province/city in which they live and, therefor, shouldnít get to influence how the province/city will go forward into the future.

75 year olds pay taxes too, most of them a lot more than 16 year olds. What happened to no taxation without representation?
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