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Offline Mr. Perfect

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #315 on: August 19, 2021, 10:24:23 pm »
MPP gets the boot after refusing to take the vaccine! 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rick-nicholls-mpp-vaccine-1.6146791
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An Ontario legislator who was warned to get vaccinated against COVID-19 has been removed from the Progressive Conservative caucus after telling reporters he wouldn't take the shot.

In a statement Thursday, Premier Doug Ford said Chatham-Kent-Leamington MPP Rick Nichols "failed to provide a legitimate reason for exemption from vaccination.

"As a consequence, he is no longer a sitting member of the PC caucus and will not be permitted to seek re-election as a PC candidate," the statement said.



Start the howling about tyranny from conservatives. 

I canít help but say that this is a bit of a brave move by the Ford govít.

Offline cybercoma

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #316 on: August 20, 2021, 07:05:29 am »
Many COVID restrictions are against Charter rights.
They're not against Charter Rights because section 1 sets out what is considered valid:

1. Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

Protecting the public from a grave risk to their life and health in this case is demonstrably justified and therefore reasonable.

Canadian Rights are not nor have they ever been absolute rights. For that reason, the rules are not against the Charter at all. The correspond with the very first section.



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Offline Boges

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #317 on: August 25, 2021, 11:15:46 am »
MPP gets the boot after refusing to take the vaccine! 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rick-nicholls-mpp-vaccine-1.6146791

Start the howling about tyranny from conservatives. 

I canít help but say that this is a bit of a brave move by the Ford govít.

Who are the Anti-Vaxx crowd going to vote for?

This Liberal Leader is already demanding a Vaccine Passport.

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #318 on: August 25, 2021, 12:20:27 pm »
the CPC locked-out Doug Ford from the last federal election... buried him soooo deep so as to not negatively impact upon the Scheer campaign. And now, DOFO is once again MIA! In 2019 Ford said he was, "too busy governing" to campaign for/with Scheer! ... and now Ford's office/spokespeople have been repeatedly asked if Ford will campaign with/for the CPC/O'Toole campaign; to which Fordís director of media relations, Ivana Yelich, finally responded:

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The premier and our government are focused squarely on the pandemic and getting as many Ontarians vaccinated as possible. Our hope is that all levels of government continue working together to ensure the people of Ontario have the support they need as we continue our fight against COVID-19

so... I guess the CPC has the most unpopular Ford tucked snugly away! Oh my!

Offline Gorgeous Graham

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #319 on: August 25, 2021, 06:29:23 pm »
They're not against Charter Rights because section 1 sets out what is considered valid:

1. Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

Protecting the public from a grave risk to their life and health in this case is demonstrably justified and therefore reasonable.

Canadian Rights are not nor have they ever been absolute rights. For that reason, the rules are not against the Charter at all. The correspond with the very first section.

I never said they were against the Charter, I said they were against our Charter rights.  The opt-out clause isn't a "right" under the charter, its a loophole.  As you say we have no guaranteed rights at all.  Its the only way Trudeau Sr. could have made the provinces sign off on it.  Quebec has gone around recently banning religious expression and free-speech/language rights for cultural reasons because it can.  "Here's all your rights, but if your province wants to it can override every single one of them".

I'm not even saying the government curtailing these rights is the wrong thing to do, most of the time it has been the right move during COVID, but don't pretend that they haven't curtailed people's charter rights just because the charter contains an opt-out clause on every single right they wrote down.

"Demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society" is an extremely vague and subjective phrase, on purpose.
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