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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #195 on: December 08, 2018, 12:54:46 pm »
Not that anyone cares, but Ron Taverner was unfairly passed over for Toronto Police Chief many times because of political reasons. He did and does have a reputation for playing the media to sell himself which did not sit well, but he was a clean cop and he had his guys back. He is not a dirty cop. He was a bank robbery guy. Try do that thankless job. He is totally qualified. The fact he is a supposed friend of Doug Ford should not disqualify him. Also he has never sat in any conflict of interest relationship with Ford. Someone show me one.

He's sitting in a conflict of interest right now.  They changed the job posting so he could win the job.  It was all set up and all sounds like fishy BS.

As premier you don't make your friend, the person who can investigate you if you break the law, as the head cop of the province. 
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« Reply #196 on: December 08, 2018, 02:44:58 pm »
He's sitting in a conflict of interest right now.  They changed the job posting so he could win the job.  It was all set up and all sounds like fishy BS.

Didn't I read recently the Liberals made 88 changes in the rules for the bidding process for new ships - after it had gotten under way?

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« Reply #197 on: December 08, 2018, 03:17:44 pm »
Did Harris's AG threaten to refuse to sign off on the budget document?

You realize the position of auditing the government's books was created because Harris/Eves lied so much about them. Now that we have the position, and the books were audited and statements made, Ford choose to ignore it and inflate them.

Tell me now, what party is fully of lying scoundrels?
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« Reply #198 on: December 08, 2018, 03:20:08 pm »
I do  not want to hear one smarmy Liberal on this board tell me a thing about him with their Toronto Police Chief now the Minister of Marijhuana.

I haven't chimed in on Taverner because I know nothing about him. It is funny however that someone chooses to make a statement about Blair and completely ignores Fantino.

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« Reply #199 on: December 08, 2018, 05:06:56 pm »
You want a statement about Fantino. He was and is a two faced liar back stabbing political who're of the worst kind in my opinion, Clear enough? Anything else?
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #200 on: December 08, 2018, 05:12:30 pm »
He's sitting in a conflict of interest right now.  They changed the job posting so he could win the job.  It was all set up and all sounds like fishy BS.

As premier you don't make your friend, the person who can investigate you if you break the law, as the head cop of the province.

Zero proof of a conflict. Taverner did not change the job description nor is there an iota of evidence he used any friendship with Ford to get hired or change the job description, Also show me how he did not qualify under the old job description. Get back to me on that because I want to know what qualifications he does not have for the job and the proof Ford had anything to do with choosing him. He 's the subject of a hatchet job. The cops like him. He is their choice. If there is a bias its the cops like him. You want a politically respectable pick spit it out. Should he be a woman of colour lesbian in a wheel chair undergoing a sex change operation?   Please advise on your qualifications. If ever someone was qualified and overdue its him. He 's being falsely accused and smeared simply because he knows the Ford family. That in itself should not disqualify him. Get back to me when you or anyone can explain  how he is not qualified. Talk about a smear job.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #201 on: December 08, 2018, 05:22:52 pm »
Show me how he did not qualify under the old job description. Get back to me on that because I want to know what qualifications he does not have for the job and proof Ford had anything to do with choosing him. The cops like him. He is their choice. If there is a bias its the cops like him. You want a politically respectable pick spit it out. Should he be a woman of colour lesbian in a wheel chair undergoing a sex change operation?   Please advise on your qualifications. If ever someone was qualified and overdue its him.

The old job description would disqualify him for not having reached the required rank, so that requirement was toned down. There may or may not have been conflict of interest, but it does leave an appearance of such.
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« Reply #202 on: December 08, 2018, 08:40:49 pm »
Didn't I read recently the Liberals made 88 changes in the rules for the bidding process for new ships - after it had gotten under way?

I don't know anything about that.  If it's true & there's corruption, then it's wrong too.  Corruption and cronyism isn't a partisan issue.
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« Reply #203 on: December 08, 2018, 10:22:50 pm »
Didn't I read recently the Liberals made 88 changes in the rules for the bidding process for new ships - after it had gotten under way?

clearly you didn't understand what you claim to have read! Contract amendments are standard operating procedure within an RFP; in this case principally amendments determined (by the principal contractor, Irving Shipbuilders) in relation to questions received from the 12 pre-qualified bidders along with process improvements to the RFP itself. Considering it's the largest military procurement in Canadian history, even you should be capable of recognizing the need for amendments to an initial RFP release... even you!

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« Reply #204 on: December 13, 2018, 12:09:46 am »
notwithstanding member Argus doesn't understand an RFP...  ;D

Government gets OK to give warship contract to Lockheed Martin as trade tribunal backtracks

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A federal trade tribunal has rescinded its order preventing the federal government from awarding a contract to Lockheed Martin Canada for a new fleet of warships for the Canadian navy.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #206 on: December 13, 2018, 04:39:12 pm »
You want a statement about Fantino. He was and is a two faced liar back stabbing political who're of the worst kind in my opinion, Clear enough? Anything else?

I contributed money to the Liberal running against him first time around in hopes he wouldn't win. He was a sleazy scumbag who bullied those below him and sucked up to anyone with authority or power.
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« Reply #207 on: December 13, 2018, 04:42:56 pm »
You realize the position of auditing the government's books was created because Harris/Eves lied so much about them.

Uhm, nope. The Liberals simply lied about the budget deficit from day one. They never planned to get anywhere near a balanced budget, much like their federal counterparts, so they falsified the budget books. They basically took everything they could find, including expenses which wouldn't be incurred in that year, and shoved them all together to pretend the deficit was bigger than it was.

Then they increased taxes, despite promising not to, increased them further with the health care tax, and then increased spending dramatically.

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Tell me now, what party is fully of lying scoundrels?

Yours. And you clearly fit right in.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #208 on: December 13, 2018, 04:45:36 pm »
Uhm, nope. The Liberals simply lied about the budget deficit from day one.

Uhm, not listening again. I said that Ford didn't take the Liberals word, but he also didn't take the AG word either. Ford, just like Harris/Eves is lying just as much as the Liberals ever did.

You know my 'party' has never been the Liberals. The only time I voted Liberal since the 80's was the 2015 federal election, forced into that position by Harper and his cabal.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #209 on: December 13, 2018, 04:46:25 pm »
notwithstanding member Argus doesn't understand an RFP...  ;D

Government gets OK to give warship contract to Lockheed Martin as trade tribunal backtracks

I just to write them
And all your cite says is that they've agreed to let the government proceed while they investigate. It doesn't say they have disagreed with the complaint.
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