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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #180 on: December 06, 2018, 04:18:27 pm »
Looks like Ford is hiring his friends and denied the cronyism. 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4728001/ford-hiring-ron-taverner-opp-commissioner/

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that a government would hire its friends! That NEVER happens!  ::)
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #181 on: December 06, 2018, 04:23:36 pm »
Another Ford ****-up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/washington-state-regulators-reject-hydro-one-avista-takeover-1.4934282

Why would I care? This doesn't cost me anything and doesn't harm Ontario. When he makes OPG renegotiate loans to make himself look good - costing Ontario billions of dollars, you let me know.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-government-obscuring-true-cost-of-cuts-to-hydro-bills-auditor-general-says-1.3635387

Anyway, it's not just Ford. Patrick Brown vowed to do something about the way Hydro awards its senior officers such high salaries too.

http://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/news/pc-leader-vowing-to-slash-hydro-one-opg-executive-salaries-1.2821186
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #182 on: December 06, 2018, 04:36:57 pm »
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that a government would hire its friends! That NEVER happens!  ::)

Not a good idea to have the top cop in bed with the premier.I guess his other buddies in goernment who dip their fingers into the public pot won't have to worry too much about being investigated seriously. Can you say "authoritarianism"?

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« Reply #183 on: December 06, 2018, 10:50:57 pm »
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Why would I care? This doesn't cost me anything and doesn't harm Ontario.

Hydro1 is on the hook for $138 million to pay the other power company. Ontarians are going to pay for that. 

DoFo cost Ontario a lot of money. 
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #184 on: December 07, 2018, 06:43:20 am »
Hydro1 is on the hook for $138 million to pay the other power company. Ontarians are going to pay for that. 

DoFo cost Ontario a lot of money.

This Reddit thread captures the Globe & Mail article: note to self, subscribe to G&M

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/a3pjbx/doug_ford_gets_rid_of_the_6million_man_and_costs/

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Right now, the deal is dead and Hydro One is on the hook for a US$103-million termination fee owed to Avista. In addition, Hydro One will have to eat at least $49-million in commissions to investment banks that lined up $1.4-billion in financing for a takeover thatís not going to happen. And the utility must pay millions in legal bills. It all adds up to a significant financial setback for Hydro One, which posted a $227-million profit in the most recent quarter.

Of course I would LOVE to blame Douggie for this one but I have to be true to my objectivity and frankly I find it a little suspicious that they would terminate this deal based on him firing the CEO.  But the bill comes to over $185 M ($103M US ~ $138M CDN plus $49M CN).

I would put that on a par with Wynne. 


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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #185 on: December 07, 2018, 10:27:26 am »
Not a good idea to have the top cop in bed with the premier.I guess his other buddies in goernment who dip their fingers into the public pot won't have to worry too much about being investigated seriously. Can you say "authoritarianism"?


The top cop is always in bed with the premier or prime minister. The OPP union were running commercials in support of Kathleen Wynne.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #186 on: December 07, 2018, 10:27:58 am »
Hydro1 is on the hook for $138 million to pay the other power company. Ontarians are going to pay for that. 

DoFo cost Ontario a lot of money.

Their stock shot up, so they can issue a few more to cover it.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #187 on: December 07, 2018, 10:30:26 am »
I would put that on a par with Wynne.

This costs Hydro - a private company thanks to Wynne - money, not Ontario taxpayers or ratepayers. It will slightly diminish their profits.
This in no way compares to the mess she has made of the electricity system, which has cost and will cost Ontario residents tens of billions of dollars according to the AG's office.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #188 on: December 07, 2018, 11:28:09 am »

The top cop is always in bed with the premier or prime minister. The OPP union were running commercials in support of Kathleen Wynne.

They can be close of course, they're just not supposed to hand pick them. That's meant to be done by a competition and selection by a non biased committee.

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #189 on: December 07, 2018, 02:38:03 pm »
They can be close of course, they're just not supposed to hand pick them. That's meant to be done by a competition and selection by a non biased committee.

The way that political **** Fantino obeyed McGuinty - ordering his officers to ignore the law in Caledonia, showed that there is little separation between the premier's office and the OPP commissioner, regardless of how things are supposed to be.
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« Reply #190 on: December 07, 2018, 02:56:34 pm »
The way that political **** Fantino obeyed McGuinty - ordering his officers to ignore the law in Caledonia, showed that there is little separation between the premier's office and the OPP commissioner, regardless of how things are supposed to be.

And the optics, at least, of what DoFo is doing indicate he is heading down the same road. But then he had a loving brother to show him the path to corruption didn't he.

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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #191 on: December 07, 2018, 03:33:28 pm »
FACT 1: Mike Harris opened the door to privatization, the number one problem with Ontario Hydro companies today.
FACT 2: Ernie Eves paved the path to closing all coal plants in Ontario
FACT 3: Dalton McGuinty & Kathleen Wynne sped up the 12 year timeline of closing coal plants by about 14 months
FACT 4: Green Energy subsidies add about 5-6% to your hydro bill


Now, who is responsible for the mess we are in?

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« Reply #192 on: December 07, 2018, 09:08:54 pm »
FACT 1: Mike Harris opened the door to privatization, the number one problem with Ontario Hydro companies today.
FACT 2: Ernie Eves paved the path to closing all coal plants in Ontario
FACT 3: Dalton McGuinty & Kathleen Wynne sped up the 12 year timeline of closing coal plants by about 14 months
FACT 4: Green Energy subsidies add about 5-6% to your hydro bill

Now, who is responsible for the mess we are in?

The McGuinty Liberals, largely.  They built the new plants that produce far beyond capacity & waste ridiculous amounts of money/power, they chose to build more expensive green energy sources, they signed the horrible 20-year contracts we can't get out of.  They also cancelled the gas plants.  Ernie Eves was in power for a year and a half, but yet he closed the plants & built the expensive new ones?  LOL

McGuinty inherited aging power infrastructure that needed to be replaced.  He totally botched it, and Wynne didn't do much to help but the major damage was done.  Ontario has fields of windmills as far as the eye can see producing energy the province doesn't even need.

My evidence is here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-does-electricity-cost-so-much-in-ontario/article33453270/
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #193 on: December 07, 2018, 09:09:34 pm »
FACT 1: Mike Harris opened the door to privatization, the number one problem with Ontario Hydro companies today.
FACT 2: Ernie Eves paved the path to closing all coal plants in Ontario
FACT 3: Dalton McGuinty & Kathleen Wynne sped up the 12 year timeline of closing coal plants by about 14 months
FACT 4: Green Energy subsidies add about 5-6% to your hydro bill


Now, who is responsible for the mess we are in?

Did Harris's AG threaten to refuse to sign off on the budget document? Did the chief accountant for Ernie Eves resign because she wouldn't sign off on phony accounting?
Did their information commissioner accuse them of lying?

By the way, you leave out a facts, like the whole green energy boondoggle your beloved Liberals foisted on Ontario. Like the fact your beloved Liberals sold Ontario Hydro and filled OPG with party hacks and friends making outrageous salaries.
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Re: Ontario Government of Doug Ford
« Reply #194 on: December 08, 2018, 07:50:53 am »
Not that anyone cares, but Ron Taverner was unfairly passed over for Toronto Police Chief many times because of political reasons. He did and does have a reputation for playing the media to sell himself which did not sit well, but he was a clean cop and he had his guys back. He is not a dirty cop. He was a bank robbery guy. Try do that thankless job. He is totally qualified. The fact he is a supposed friend of Doug Ford should not disqualify him. Also he has never sat in any conflict of interest relationship with Ford. Someone show me one.

Someone show me dirt on him. You won't find any. He has an ego yes. Dirt no. He's clean. That means something. If this guy shakes your hand, you know he means what he promised. That is the street word on him with friends and foes.

I do  not want to hear one smarmy Liberal on this board tell me a thing about him with their Toronto Police Chief now the Minister of Marijhuana. Thank you,

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