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Offline ?Impact

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One trick pony parties
« on: April 01, 2018, 10:00:57 pm »
... taking from a tangent of a tangent of a tangent over in a thread in provincial politics*...

It seems that there is much fear mongering that single issue parties would dominate in a proportionally representative parliament/legislature. While I don't think that single issue parties would get much support as I believe they would have to have a more comprehensive agenda to appeal to voters, and it would represent a major failing of other parties that didn't point that out, I though just for fun I would start my own one trick pony party.

The Fiscal Hawks Party

Running deficits not only creates a burden on future generations to pay them back, but becomes a major expense item in annual budgets and limits what can be done. If it were not for paying back the debts of previous generations, we would be able to do all that we do and more in current years.

The one trick of my party is: My party doesn't care what programs or taxes are, but we will not support any budget that runs a deficit and will support any balanced budget - period. If we have a current debt, then the budget must include interest + 1% minimum to be considered balanced. We have zero social policies, zero program policies, and zero tax policies.

Do I have your vote?


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* sorry, meant to start this in federal politics but it belongs equally here.
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Offline BC_cheque

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Re: One trick pony parties
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2018, 01:16:51 am »
No dude, I'm totally voting PPPP.  Passionate Pot-Prohibition Party.

Unlike your loser party, we're gonna make the threshold.


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Re: One trick pony parties
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2018, 01:55:59 am »
The EGAD (Everybody Gets A Dog) Party will leave you both in the dust!  After all, who doesn't want a dog?  And even if you don't, your kid does!

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Re: One trick pony parties
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 11:41:33 am »
I love dogs!

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Re: One trick pony parties
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 11:25:23 am »
I love ponies.  I wish i had one, even if it only had one trick.
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Re: One trick pony parties
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2018, 03:22:58 pm »
... taking from a tangent of a tangent of a tangent over in a thread in provincial politics*...

It seems that there is much fear mongering that single issue parties would dominate in a proportionally representative parliament/legislature. While I don't think that single issue parties would get much support as I believe they would have to have a more comprehensive agenda to appeal to voters, and it would represent a major failing of other parties that didn't point that out, I though just for fun I would start my own one trick pony party.

The Fiscal Hawks Party

Running deficits not only creates a burden on future generations to pay them back, but becomes a major expense item in annual budgets and limits what can be done. If it were not for paying back the debts of previous generations, we would be able to do all that we do and more in current years.

The one trick of my party is: My party doesn't care what programs or taxes are, but we will not support any budget that runs a deficit and will support any balanced budget - period. If we have a current debt, then the budget must include interest + 1% minimum to be considered balanced. We have zero social policies, zero program policies, and zero tax policies.

Do I have your vote?


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* sorry, meant to start this in federal politics but it belongs equally here.


I now have a chance to respond. To start with I do respect your argument that proportional party rep. is more democratic. In sense of more accurately matching the popular vote and transcending gerrymandering and district voting yes.

However I will disagree on your above comment and  give you an example-Israel. It uses proportional rep. It has a very right wing religious party that is a one trick pony. Its a very fundamentalist orthodox Jewish party. For me I believe any political movement that does not separate religion from state is a threat to the state's ability to be democratic. I think religion and politics should not mix myself. That party is ale to have a hell of a lot of clout or influence precisely because for the Likud party to stay in power as long as Netanyahu has he needed them in his coalition.

So does that make Israel more democratic. Well in one sense it can't get more democratic. It has a party for every opinion including Muslim extremist parties elected calling for its destruction. Its got all ideologies and many one trick parties. It makes for a volatile Knesset. So yes in one sense its very democratic but the ultimate results can be a very one trick extremist party being able to manipulate the constant minority coalition building to dictate to the nation as this party does, the religious laws.

I say that because as a non secular Jew, a Reformist so to speak, I am not considered a Jew by this party. Most Israelis are not formally religious and resent this party having so much power over who qualifies to marry, is a Jew, etc. Its a complicated mess. So I use that as one example.

Another is Italy. Its full of one issue parties weasling into coalitions to dictate their wishes.

Its why I prefer the British system which anticipated that. Anyways its a debate that has merit on both sides. I prefer the British Parliamentary system as the most stable in the world but that is my bias. You have yours. They both have pros and cons yes.
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