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Offline ?Impact

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #120 on: March 12, 2018, 09:24:49 am »
Liberals will have to come up with actual concrete critiques of Ford. He's not a drug addict like his brother was. He's also not a racist.

No he is not a drug addict, but he is a former drug dealer... and not some kid selling a joint or two to friends he was a mid-level drug dealer supplying hashish to many through others. He is also a failing human being, willing to destroy others with lies in order to get his way. Listen to the crap radio show he used to co-host with Rob, he was a scumbag so bad the the rabid right-wing radio station finally had to pull him off the air.

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #121 on: March 12, 2018, 09:38:05 am »
And Kathleen Wynne isn't a scumbag?
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #122 on: March 12, 2018, 09:47:19 am »
Let's see ... the predictions of "Right wing populism is not going to succeed ... we are not THAT crazy..." resulted in:

Rob Ford victory
Brexit victory
Trump victory

You forgot the recent Italy election won by rightwing populists.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #123 on: March 12, 2018, 09:53:32 am »
The time is perfect for him too. He doesn’t have to stand for anything of substance, which he doesn’t anyway. All he has to do is be anti-Wynne. He’s good at that.

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #124 on: March 12, 2018, 09:55:31 am »
This circus of a party can’t even run their own internal affairs and people are going to trust Doug Ford and the circus to govern the largest province?   LOL    Pass the popcorn....    :P

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« Reply #125 on: March 12, 2018, 10:04:27 am »
The PCs already have a decent platform. Stick to that, and the election will be won.

If Wynne plays the deplorable cards, it'll be a mistake.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #126 on: March 12, 2018, 10:04:48 am »
So far we don't have a public expressing their view, only 60+ thousand party members.

The neo-nazis and KKK didn't elect Trump, because they don't make up anywhere close the # of votes Trump needed to win.  Trump won and Brexit won and the Italian rightwing populists won because a lot of people are fed up, people who can't voice their real opinions because, right or wrong, they'll be called racists and xenophobes. 

And yet if you look at the media, you'd think the vast majority of the population thinks and has always thought Trump is Satan, but that's clearly not quite accurate, he beat Hillary.  Clearly what the MSM thinks (Hollywood, New York City, other liberal urban centers and the arts, and the young folks who dominate twitter & facebook) isn't representative of what the actual populace thinks.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #127 on: March 12, 2018, 10:06:47 am »
The neo-nazis and KKK didn't elect Trump, because they don't make up anywhere close the # of votes Trump needed to win.  Trump won and Brexit won and the Italian rightwing populists won because a lot of people are fed up, people who can't voice their real opinions because, right or wrong, they'll be called racists and xenophobes. 

And yet if you look at the media, you'd think the vast majority of the population thinks and has always thought Trump is Satan, but that's clearly not quite accurate, he beat Hillary.  Clearly what the MSM thinks (Hollywood, New York City, other liberal urban centers and the arts, and the young folks who dominate twitter & facebook) isn't representative of what the actual populace thinks.

And Trudeau won the election in Canada...   Canada doesn’t always go the way of the USA, or other places.   Let’s wait for an election to happen before you give the Province to the alt-right.

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #128 on: March 12, 2018, 10:15:24 am »
The time is perfect for him too. He doesn’t have to stand for anything of substance, which he doesn’t anyway. All he has to do is be anti-Wynne. He’s good at that.

This is the easiest election for anyone to win, he really has to screw up to lose, he has to really out-do Hudak.  It's pretty amazing how stupid Ontario voters are.  Wynne somehow got a majority last election, so they got what their stupidity deserves, and everyone else has to pay for it.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #129 on: March 12, 2018, 10:21:48 am »
And Trudeau won the election in Canada...   Canada doesn’t always go the way of the USA, or other places.   Let’s wait for an election to happen before you give the Province to the alt-right.

Trudeau winning was as much about anti-Harper votes as pro-Trudeau.  I'm not saying ON is going to go alt-right, I'm saying these rightwing populist movements have more appeal than it appears on the surface.  I mean Rob Ford won Toronto and Doug now the PC leadership, it baffles me but people seem to like these guys better than most.

A lot of visible minorities seem to like the Ford's too, so it's not a race/culture thing as much as it is for Trump, it's populism.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #130 on: March 12, 2018, 10:58:10 am »
This circus of a party can’t even run their own internal affairs and people are going to trust Doug Ford and the circus to govern the largest province?   LOL    Pass the popcorn....    :P
The largest city in the country, which is even largely proportionately within Ontario, elected the far worse of the Fords as its mayor. I'm not kidding when I say don't underestimate Doug Ford. He's far more calculated than Rob ever was, which makes him far more dangerous because he might actually get **** done. Doug Ford doesn't go off on meth benders.

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2018, 11:00:35 am »
Wynne somehow got a majority last election, so they got what their stupidity deserves, and everyone else has to pay for it.
Wynne's not even remotely as bad as you and conservatives in Ontario think she is. The hysterical hyperbole from the conservative blogosphere isn't going to play with others either.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #132 on: March 12, 2018, 12:05:51 pm »
Wynne's not even remotely as bad as you and conservatives in Ontario think she is. The hysterical hyperbole from the conservative blogosphere isn't going to play with others either.

She's pretty bad, the party is rotten.  Liberal voters think so too, overall 20% approval rating, up from 12% a year ago before she started bribing voters with their own tax money.  At some point you have to stop rewarding gross incompetence.  Unfortunately this Ford oaf has been put forward as the viable alternative.
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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #133 on: March 12, 2018, 12:06:54 pm »
Wynne's not even remotely as bad as you and conservatives in Ontario think she is. The hysterical hyperbole from the conservative blogosphere isn't going to play with others either.

That party is Corrupt AF.

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Re: Let the Caucus Pick the PC Ontario Leader ?
« Reply #134 on: March 12, 2018, 12:10:31 pm »
That party is Corrupt AF.
You think the PCs are clean as a whistle? Or even the NDP for that matter? Give me a god damned break. Especially Doug Ford.
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