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Offline wilber

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Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« on: May 18, 2022, 08:27:36 pm »
Will the party lurch farther to the right and hand the NDP the next election. Interesting times in Wild Rose Country..
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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2022, 08:41:59 pm »
Will the party lurch farther to the right and hand the NDP the next election. Interesting times in Wild Rose Country..

I don’t think there is any other path other than a “lurch to the right” for the UCP. 


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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2022, 09:35:00 am »
lol he was premier for less time than Notley was.

Very curious if the party actually stays united.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2022, 01:16:29 am »
I don’t think there is any other path other than a “lurch to the right” for the UCP.
Is there any other right wing party in the solar system that isn't lurching that way?

It isn't a place it's a direction.
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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2022, 06:38:57 am »
All parties are lurching that way.

Identity politics doesn't count, because those seem to generally move in one direction: more freedom, less prejudice etc.

But if you follow the money they are all going right.  In the 1970s the NDP used to campaign on nationalizing automobile manufacturers and the Liberals had a hard principle of universality of benefit programs.

The continued spoonfeeding of Canadian business seems to be predicated on the idea that if they can only make 10% profits and not 20% then they won't invest and will leave Canada.

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2022, 10:30:08 pm »
Anyone remember that phrase it takes two wings to fly?

(He said while ducking to dodge a couple of shoes and boos)

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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2022, 02:40:26 am »
All parties are lurching that way.

Identity politics doesn't count, because those seem to generally move in one direction: more freedom, less prejudice etc.

But if you follow the money they are all going right.  In the 1970s the NDP used to campaign on nationalizing automobile manufacturers and the Liberals had a hard principle of universality of benefit programs.

The continued spoonfeeding of Canadian business seems to be predicated on the idea that if they can only make 10% profits and not 20% then they won't invest and will leave Canada.

Disagree.  The left is moving left, the right is moving right.  Compared to 20-30 years ago, the Liberals are moving to the left, as are Democrats since there's more socialism-supporting elected Democrats now (the squad etc).  The Liberals are creating socialized daycare, pharmacare, dental care, and have clearly moved to the left socially.  And yes identity politics counts.  Increased government policy pushing equity for disadvantaged groups is left-wing policy.  They still sellout to big money though so you have a point about that.

It seems that all parties moved rightwing economically starting in the Reagan/Thatcher 80's, so you're right about that, but the left is now going more left economically and socially, and the right is going right pretty hard socially.
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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2022, 05:44:40 am »
Maybe a turn has just started...

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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2022, 08:30:44 am »
In the late 1960s in Manitoba, the NDP nationalized auto insurance. It has been outrageously successful, with a cheap, efficient system that nobody ever suggests getting rid of because it works so well. But there's no way they could implement such a change today.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2022, 09:32:13 am »
Maybe a turn has just started...

Yes things have changed and polarized within the last 10 years.   To bubber's point, at least economically left policies were more widespread pre-Reagan and then neoliberalism came along.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2022, 09:51:06 am »
Disagree.  The left is moving left, the right is moving right.  Compared to 20-30 years ago, the Liberals are moving to the left, as are Democrats since there's more socialism-supporting elected Democrats now (the squad etc).

The fact that basically FDR New Deal Dems like the squad and Bernie are considered "socialism supporting" actually shows how far both parties have lurched to the right.
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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2022, 11:42:23 am »
Rempel decides not to run because of the nastiness of many UCP MLAs.  She laments the state of the UCP as well as her own federal party. 

You can read her long diatribe here:
https://michellerempelgarner.substack.com/p/i-just-made-a-big-decision?sd=pf

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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2022, 12:47:02 pm »
I read part of it.  I get it.  Politics is toxic and needs to be fixed.

So call it as it is - toxic - and walk away.

I have been trying to do that - trying - and when it works it feels good.

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2022, 12:55:33 pm »
I read part of it.  I get it.  Politics is toxic and needs to be fixed.

So call it as it is - toxic - and walk away.

I have been trying to do that - trying - and when it works it feels good.

No, you’re wrong.  Politics is not toxic.  Conservatives are toxic.

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Re: Kenny Resigns as Leader of UCP
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2022, 12:57:37 pm »
No, you’re wrong.  Politics is not toxic.  Conservatives are toxic.

Ok - well if you kill them all then you get rid of toxic politics AND toxic conservatives - PROBLEM SOLVED.

I guess that's what you're looking for ?

Because if not, we're back to "politics is toxic".