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Offline Omni

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #120 on: July 01, 2019, 02:25:40 pm »
Hamilton pride “leaders” are also a bunch of thugs looking for trouble. 

I won’t say there’s good people on both sides...  I will say there are violent **** who are looking for trouble on both sides.

Um, still sounds like a Trumpian attempt to equate the sides.
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« Reply #121 on: July 01, 2019, 04:57:38 pm »
That's Toronto's issue.

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Toronto Police still stayed on the job.

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Not the topic of this thread.

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We'd all be better off with a bit more melanin anyway.

Deflect #4.

Any reasonable person can see there's hate speech on the left too.  Some on the right tend to hate "the other" and minorities and those with less power, while some on the left tend to hate those with power who they see as oppressors (whites, rich, men, Americans etc).

I've had many people on the left on social media like this forum & twitter etc swear profanity-laced insults at me filled with such vile seething resentment i can just feel the hate inside of them for me when I'll politely disagree with them on some issue.

As for violence, the left can get riled up in a mob sometimes but the right is more violent, especially lethally violent.  The left doesn't take assault rifles to shoot up Wall Street.
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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #122 on: July 01, 2019, 08:49:26 pm »
Maybe better if we label hate groups and try to disavow them so we can get rid of them.

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« Reply #123 on: July 01, 2019, 09:00:19 pm »
Maybe better if we label hate groups and try to disavow them so we can get rid of them.

Problem is it's hard to get rid of ideas and emotions.  We can ban groups, but online communities remain etc.  It's difficult, but we just have to do our best not to spread the problems via online etc.  The groups are symptoms of other issues we're trying to deal with as a society.  Major social changes.
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« Reply #124 on: July 01, 2019, 10:32:11 pm »
Any reasonable person can see there's hate speech on the left too.  Some on the right tend to hate "the other" and minorities and those with less power, while some on the left tend to hate those with power who they see as oppressors (whites, rich, men, Americans etc).
Who could have a problem with that?
Power that isn't elected, power that is corrupted?
Who has a problem with fixing that?
It's a civic duty.

Alt-right are damaged people. Hate is their drug of choice for self-destruction.
In May, Christopher Vanderweide of Kitchener, holding his newborn daughter, said she changed his life.
In June he came to Hamilton Pride Fest, a violent 'converted' Christian homophobe, and smashed Pink Bloc anarchists in the head and face with a helmet.
So he's in jail now, good 'conversion-therapied' Dad.
He's a hero to his prayerful bigot buddies, but none will be his surety. 
Alt-right just want hate and violence. They're deranged.

To the real left, hatred is a useless waste of emotion on those who do not feel. Sociopaths see profits not people.

And long may it be that the left fights oppression with a steely focus on transgressions of rights. 

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I've had many people on the left on social media like this forum & twitter etc swear profanity-laced insults at me filled with such vile seething resentment i can just feel the hate inside of them for me when I'll politely disagree with them on some issue.

You can be a vile sanctimonious cementforbrains **** sometimes.
That isn't polite.
You deserve to have your face chewed off with facts and evidence. Lol

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As for violence, the left can get riled up in a mob sometimes but the right is more violent, especially lethally violent. The left doesn't take assault rifles to shoot up Wall Street.

Well ... you got that right.
I think anarchists want to destroy systems that divides people.
I think police try to divide people, try to criminalize the public dissent that defines democracy.
That's politically driven policing, suppressing dissent against political governments.
Governments that 'cannot direct the operations  of Police.
But they do try.
(See Ipperwash Inquiry.)

Just because it's what the local provincial federal government wants doesn't mean it's the right thing for  police to do.
Police have duties, oaths, a responsibility to every person in Canada.
They enforce laws impartially in that context.

They don't withhold service because they weren't "invited" to Pride Fest.
Assault hate crimes are still against the law.

 
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« Reply #125 on: July 01, 2019, 11:13:55 pm »
You can be a vile sanctimonious cementforbrains **** sometimes.
That isn't polite.

Show me a post where i've ever been an **** to anyone on these boards.  The proof is in the pudding.

Disagreeing with you politically doesn't make someone an ****, despite what you think.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2019, 06:32:08 am »
Problem is it's hard to get rid of ideas and emotions.  We can ban groups, but online communities remain etc.  It's difficult, but we just have to do our best not to spread the problems via online etc.  The groups are symptoms of other issues we're trying to deal with as a society.  Major social changes.

The growth of the groups happens online.  I'm glad to ban them.

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2019, 09:01:20 am »
Show me a post where i've ever been an **** to anyone on these boards.  The proof is in the pudding.

Disagreeing with you politically doesn't make someone an ****, despite what you think.

I'll let you know when It's happening again.

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« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2019, 10:17:58 am »
The growth of the groups happens online.  I'm glad to ban them.

The solution isn't banning speech....

The solutions are de-platforming, and combating hate speech with good speech.

From what I've seen with the SJW/anarchist "left" is that they want to ban any speech that doesn't agree with them.  Take Granny....  A microcosm of SJWs....  calling Moonlight names for disagreeing with her.

If you're going to ban "hate groups", then there's a bunch of antifa and anarchist groups that ought to be banned with them.
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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #129 on: July 02, 2019, 10:23:21 am »
Sorry, I meant ban the online groups only which is deplatforming.
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« Reply #130 on: July 03, 2019, 01:15:44 pm »
The solution isn't banning speech....

The solutions are de-platforming, and combating hate speech with good speech.

Actually, the legal solution is arresting people for
- public incitement of hatred (in public), or
- wilful promotion of hatred (online, etc)
(Section 319,  Criminal Code of Canada)
Until Police start documenting them, collecting evidence, laying charges ... drowning out hatred in public places is the standard way people deal with it: We are free to speak back. Lol

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If you're going to ban "hate groups", then there's a bunch of antifa and anarchist groups that ought to be banned with them.
Towards whom?

There is no hatred toward protected groups coming from antifa.

Some police would like to get rid of everyone's rights to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech.
Ban protests and lock the protesters up!
LOL
Can anybody here think why that might be a bad idea?

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From what I've seen with the SJW/anarchist "left" is that they want to ban any speech that doesn't agree with them.  Take Granny....  A microcosm of SJWs....  calling Moonlight names for disagreeing with her.

MG can be a sanctimonious ****. He is free to be so. I am free to speak back.

Do you have a problem understanding what 'free speech' means, squid?


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« Reply #131 on: July 03, 2019, 01:32:32 pm »
Oh goody, someone else to call names.
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« Reply #132 on: July 03, 2019, 01:51:15 pm »
MG can be a sanctimonious ****. He is free to be so. I am free to speak back.

Do you have a problem understanding what 'free speech' means, squid?

Everyone knows who the self-righteous **** here is.  You're clearly not here for civil discussion. 
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« Reply #133 on: July 03, 2019, 02:27:21 pm »
Everyone knows who the self-righteous **** here is.  You're clearly not here for civil discussion.  So go **** yourself.

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Discussion not going your way, MG?

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Pride wouldn't let the police attend, wouldn't let them have a recruitment booth.  So they hate the police, until they need them.
It's a pretty sick way to learn a lesson, but maybe now Pride understands the value police have in the community ...

This is how you qualified for the "sanctimonious ****" award.
Translation:
'It's ok for police to refuse to provide police services for Pride Fest ... because police weren't "invited" to Pride Fest.'
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'It's ok for police to refuse to provide police services when Pride folk are being violently attacked by Hate groups ... because police weren't invited to Pride Fest.
??

Is that still the sanctimonious **** line you're sticking to?

Because most people see a serious problem with that police behaviour.
It certainly is "pretty sick" behaviour by the Police Chief, allowing violent attacks by Hate groups at Pride Fest.


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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #134 on: July 03, 2019, 02:38:48 pm »
Everyone knows who the self-righteous **** here is.  You're clearly not here for civil discussion.  So go **** yourself.

May I suggest you research the word "ironic".
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