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Offline Granny

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #195 on: July 29, 2019, 08:42:00 am »
They are hearts.  When did you go to school ?  There's a small chance I know you !
Doubtful.
I thought the "gagmewithaspoon" comment would be an era clue for you. If it escapes you ... you're just a youngster. Lol



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« Reply #196 on: July 29, 2019, 10:11:45 am »
Doubtful.
I thought the "gagmewithaspoon" comment would be an era clue for you. If it escapes you ... you're just a youngster. Lol

You don't know how old I am !   :D

Play along.... did you go to UW in the 80s ???

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #197 on: July 29, 2019, 10:11:05 pm »
You don't know how old I am !   :D

Play along.... did you go to UW in the 80s ???
I'm older than that!  Lol

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2019, 06:26:05 pm »
Two months later ...
After huge public backlash and multiple formal complaints to OIPRD (in progress) ...
https://www.oiprd.on.ca/complaints/complaint-forms/
... about police standing by while homophobic hate groups attacked people at Hamilton Pride Fest, the Chief of Police has finally (imo) distanced himself from the Mayor's influence and biased responses, and approached the LGBTQ2 community to acknowledge police responsibility:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/lgbtq-community-hamilton-police-meeting-1.5266556

At a meeting with members of the LGBTQ community Thursday, Hamilton police expressed regret about the state of their relationship with the community and acknowledged "there are lessons to be learned."

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« Reply #199 on: September 01, 2019, 10:02:08 am »
Those of us in the 'mushy middle' have to do as much as we can to bring this terrible behaviour by our civil service to the 'public' attention.

Yes - there are hate mongers and violent offenders working in police and military, and sometimes even position of power.  They don't have the luxury of imposing their extreme views on those of us who pay their salaries.... ie. the mushy middle.

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« Reply #200 on: September 01, 2019, 05:28:10 pm »
Those of us in the 'mushy middle' have to do as much as we can to bring this terrible behaviour by our civil service to the 'public' attention.

Yes - there are hate mongers and violent offenders working in police and military, and sometimes even position of power.  They don't have the luxury of imposing their extreme views on those of us who pay their salaries.... ie. the mushy middle.
The overriding issue in this situation appears to be political interference in police operations, imo. 
Nonetheless, police are accountable for their actions, including any actions or inactions that may have been politically influenced: It is their responsibility to do their jobs "impartially", regardless.


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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #201 on: September 15, 2019, 08:52:20 am »
I wish the LGBT community would take some accountability over this. If they tell Police they are not welcome, and protest their presence, then don't cry when they respect your wishes and stay away.  It's hypocrisy. You either want Police at the parade or you do not want them there. If the LGBT community feels that Police should not be there, then train some of the members of the community in self defense, for Christ sakes. 

Typical leftist radicals. They brought this upon themselves.

It's funny, that stupid nonsense about police not being "welcome". It's not true. It's homophobic  smear and hate propaganda by the Chief of Police and the Mayor. I see you fell for it!!!

Firefighters still do their jobs without being invited to set up a recruiting booth.

In fact, we've looked all over the current street festival in town and we can't find the police recruiting booth, and yet the police are still  around doing their job!!

Why did the Police Chief think they needed to be invited to have a recruiting booth in order to do their job??!!
What's the point of even calling 911 when you need help, if they have to set up a recruiting booth in front of your place first, or they won't help you? 
Ridiculous.

Do you get the point, Faith?
Nobody told police to stay away.
They just didn't want police to have a recruiting booth at Pride Fest.
The Chief of Police had a hissy fit about that, ordered officers to stand down and let homophobes violently attack Pride people ... because the Chief IS a homophobe.

The Chief, as reported above, tried to make amends ... likely because he's now been reported to provincial authorities and is under investigation.

But this week he blew it totally, went on public radio and ranted about bathhouses, sex in public bathrooms, raping boys, anal sex ... typical 1950's HOMOPHOBIA.
Now he's apologized again,  sorry-not sorry style, with more of his pubescent giggling.

There are homophobes in high places who enjoy setting gay and Trans people up to get beaten up, while they watch and giggle.

That's what happened.


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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #202 on: September 15, 2019, 09:07:08 am »
Faith! Did you 'accidently' delete your raging homophobic and violent fantasy rant? Fortunately, I captured it.
This is what you said.

Faith:
"I would personally love to see Jessica Yaniv get beat down. Same with that NDP cross-dresser Morgane Oger.  I hope Rachel Mackinnon suffers a career ending cycling injury.

These people are freaks, and are a thorn in the side of Canada. The LGBT community needs to put a stop to these freaks."


There it is, folks. That's what it was before she deleted it. That's what we're dealing with in Hamilton: Homophobic hate groups ... who are also white supremacists and claim "Christian" motives.

Troll "Faith" is obviously one of the homophobes and Transphobes who attacked Pride Fest and infest City Hall with hate signs every Saturday.

She might be the one who calls herself "Lily", has a sign that says "Homosexuals are killing the white race", and last Saturday attacked Andrea Horwath (ON NDP leader) at City Hall.
Oh ... and cuddling and canoodling with Paul Fromm, notorious white supremacist.

I'm not sure why she's using "Faith" (Goldy?) as a name. Faith Goldy is hateful, but she's not that stupid. Lol
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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #203 on: September 15, 2019, 09:11:00 am »
Granny there's a forecast of "chance of trolling" today.

Individuals voicing dislike for the police, or even the organization saying that they didn't want police marching of course in now way conveys a wish to not be protected for our tax dollars.

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #204 on: September 15, 2019, 09:33:17 am »
Granny there's a forecast of "chance of trolling" today.

Individuals voicing dislike for the police, or even the organization saying that they didn't want police marching of course in now way conveys a wish to not be protected for our tax dollars.
A troll, clearly.

Just to clarify ... there was no Pride Fest parade in Hamilton, just an afternoon family-friendly festival in a park, a stage with entertainment, vendor booths, etc.
Police wanted to have a Recruiting booth there. They were turned down.
So they delayed/refused service, watched, when Pride people were being violently attacked by hate groups. Then police spent two weeks harassing and arresting those who were attacked, and one Trans person who wasn't even there. 

Multiple complaints to OIPRD, investigations in progress.


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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #205 on: September 16, 2019, 09:58:23 am »
Faith! Did you 'accidently' delete your raging homophobic and violent fantasy rant? Fortunately, I captured it.
This is what you said.

Faith:
"I would personally love to see Jessica Yaniv get beat down. Same with that NDP cross-dresser Morgane Oger.  I hope Rachel Mackinnon suffers a career ending cycling injury.

These people are freaks, and are a thorn in the side of Canada. The LGBT community needs to put a stop to these freaks."


There it is, folks. That's what it was before she deleted it. That's what we're dealing with in Hamilton: Homophobic hate groups ... who are also white supremacists and claim "Christian" motives.

It's certainly awful that someone would wish an injury upon Dr Rachel McKinnon, college professor, world famous cycling champion, trans rights advocate, media personality, motivational speaker, etc.

But I do think it bears mention that Dr McKinnon has spent the past couple of weeks gloating and celebrating as a 35 year old woman suffered from the final stages of terminal brain cancer.

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #206 on: September 16, 2019, 05:10:06 pm »
It's certainly awful that someone would wish an injury upon Dr Rachel McKinnon, college professor, world famous cycling champion, trans rights advocate, media personality, motivational speaker, etc.

But I do think it bears mention that Dr McKinnon has spent the past couple of weeks gloating and celebrating as a 35 year old woman suffered from the final stages of terminal brain cancer.

 -k

I'm not sure of the context for your last comment, kimmy. Elaborate if you wish.

It does seem that 'Faith' initially smeared all "LGBT" people, and then really zeroed in on Trans people.
There is something quite reprehensible about wishing death on other people, no matter the reason - including both 'Faith' and Dr MacKinnon, if so.

There is also something quite reprehensible about a Police Chief delaying police service to people who are under violent attack ... BECAUSE they are LGBTQ+ (not all Trans), blaming and arresting the victims instead of the violent homophobic perps, then using sexualized language on public radio to smear and degrade all homosexuals.
Homophobia is rampant in police forces, and clearly exposed here.
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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2019, 04:53:02 am »
Homophobia is rampant but not so openly tolerated as in Hamilton.  And yet somehow there is no continuous media outrage. 

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #208 on: September 17, 2019, 08:39:37 am »
Homophobia is rampant but not so openly tolerated as in Hamilton.  And yet somehow there is no continuous media outrage.

Imagine that!
Major media downplaying, minimizing, shoving it under a rug ... just like the Mayor and PSB and the Chief of Police.
3 months later, and Council is just beginning to debate this week whether to fund a PSB review of police behaviour at Pride Fest.
Fortunately some people didn't wait for that and made complaints to the provincial body that investigates police, OIPRD.

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Re: Hamilton Pride, Police Shame
« Reply #209 on: September 17, 2019, 09:59:06 am »
I'm not sure of the context for your last comment, kimmy. Elaborate if you wish.

Just pointing out that there are (to paraphrase Mr Trump) "very fine people on both sides".    Whether it's trans activists (including Dr McKinnon) gloating and celebrating as Magdalen Berns passed away from brain cancer last week, or nailing a dead rat to the door and writing death threats on the Vancouver Rape Relief women's shelter, or hanging feminists in effigy, there are some truly awful people who feel that "trans rights" justifies anything they do.

I'm skeptical that the ones who ended up in a fight with the neo-Nazis were angels themselves.

It does seem that 'Faith' initially smeared all "LGBT" people, and then really zeroed in on Trans people.
There is something quite reprehensible about wishing death on other people, no matter the reason - including both 'Faith' and Dr MacKinnon, if so.

There is also something quite reprehensible about a Police Chief delaying police service to people who are under violent attack ... BECAUSE they are LGBTQ+ (not all Trans), blaming and arresting the victims instead of the violent homophobic perps, then using sexualized language on public radio to smear and degrade all homosexuals.
Homophobia is rampant in police forces, and clearly exposed here.

Homophobia still exists, but deliberately making an enemy of police forces wasn't the right way to fight it. "You can't build bridges by excluding people", as people have said since long before this Hamilton controversy.

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