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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2019, 02:52:46 pm »
That would depend on whether the ar part of the group assigned to policing the event.

Then I can certainly see how police have created this problem for themselves, in Edmonton and in Toronto.

If you're in uniform, being paid, on duty ... then you are not just participating in the parade. So stand aside and monitor for any problems, like police always do at parades.

If you're an off duty officer and just participating in the parade for personal reasons, don't wear a uniform.

You can't have it both ways.
You can't pretend to be participants when you're really on duty policing the participants.

BLM was right.


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« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2019, 02:59:24 pm »
Then I can certainly see how police have created this problem for themselves, in Edmonton and in Toronto.

If you're in uniform, being paid, on duty ... then you are not just participating in the parade. So stand aside and monitor for any problems, like police always do at parades.

If you're an off duty officer and just participating in the parade for personal reasons, don't wear a uniform.

You can't have it both ways.
You can't pretend to be participants when you're really on duty policing the participants.

BLM was right.

That kind of mentality creates division in the world. This entire fiasco is the fault of the Shades of Colour group. They tried to bully the Pride group, and arguably extort money from them. If they did not get what they wanted, they would almost certainly have interrupted the Pride march for their own personal agenda.

After reading their demands, I am convinced they are either delusional or mentally ill. This was never a Police issue. It was an extortion attempt that backfired.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2019, 03:08:21 pm »
Then I can certainly see how police have created this problem for themselves, in Edmonton and in Toronto.

If you're in uniform, being paid, on duty ... then you are not just participating in the parade. So stand aside and monitor for any problems, like police always do at parades.

If you're an off duty officer and just participating in the parade for personal reasons, don't wear a uniform.

You can't have it both ways.
You can't pretend to be participants when you're really on duty policing the participants.

BLM was right.



Sure they can, why should they hide what they are? Pride organizers don't dictate to other groups what they can wear.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2019, 04:18:35 pm »
Sure they can, why should they hide what they are? Pride organizers don't dictate to other groups what they can wear.

You really don't get it, do you?

IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR POLICE OFFICERS IN UNIFORM TO BE PAID FOR BEING ON DUTY WHILE PRETENDING TO BE MARCHING AS PARTICIPANTS IN THE PRIDE PARADE.

That's just deceit and subterfuge for spying on and monitoring participants.

 So BLM's suspicions are valid.


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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2019, 05:49:48 pm »
Why do police want to wear uniforms? Are they on duty?
Are we paying them?

The same reason TTC bus drivers wanted to, to show they work in all sectors and to indicate to their community they are now working in sectors they once thought they could not.

The same reason some people dress in drag or others dress in thongs.

The same reason Trudeau shows up at these events.

Its called token symbolism.
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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2019, 06:07:31 pm »
The same reason Trudeau shows up at these events.

Its called token symbolism.

what's the symbolism behind weakSauce Scheer refusing to attend Pride Parades?
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2019, 09:11:49 pm »
You really don't get it, do you?

IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR POLICE OFFICERS IN UNIFORM TO BE PAID FOR BEING ON DUTY WHILE PRETENDING TO BE MARCHING AS PARTICIPANTS IN THE PRIDE PARADE.

That's just deceit and subterfuge for spying on and monitoring participants.

 So BLM's suspicions are valid.
Well before you go on with your rant, maybe you should find out what you are talking about instead of just making accusations and indulging in conspiracy theories.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2019, 12:51:30 am »
Well before you go on with your rant, maybe you should find out what you are talking about instead of just making accusations and indulging in conspiracy theories.

Are police paid to be in the Pride parade in uniform?

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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2019, 08:00:22 am »
what's the symbolism behind weakSauce Scheer refusing to attend Pride Parades?

The same reason many choose not to attend other parades. What makes you think he or any politician has to attend ANY such parades?

I speak only for myself but I find politicians who show up for gay pride who are not gay do so to pander for votes from the gay community.

I find politicians pander to specific ethnic and interest groups through public displays. They use these groups as picture ops to piggy back on the event and make themselves more popular.

Do you ever think some politicians do not want to use people as props to get votes? You think Trudeau showing up to every gay pride parade wearing the identical pink shirt and white pants is  not to pander for gay votes. You think the gay coin was not an attempt to pander gays for votes.

Symbolic tokenism which many politicians are part of can be meaningful, i.e., war ceremonies, but it can also be phony and crass.

You obviously think everyone should be like Trudeau and prance about jamming their face into photo ops. I for one find him an insincere phony pandering manipulate picture hog.

He needs to be more concerned about the ethical issues he can't understand or the out of control spending he is responsible for and less about grinning like a hyena for photo ops.



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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2019, 09:31:53 am »
Are police paid to be in the Pride parade in uniform?
I donít know.
Why donít you find out? I think you have already made up your mind.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2019, 11:23:44 am »
Rather than pandering, it may be to show support.
Speculation based on bias is deciet. We do not know what is in the PM's mind.
Why would the police need to spy on the participants of the Pride Parade. They are there to show support and, if neccessary, serve and protect. Thinking a Police officer is spying on you is either paranoia or guilt.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2019, 03:04:31 pm »
Then I can certainly see how police have created this problem for themselves, in Edmonton and in Toronto.

If you're in uniform, being paid, on duty ... then you are not just participating in the parade. So stand aside and monitor for any problems, like police always do at parades.

If you're an off duty officer and just participating in the parade for personal reasons, don't wear a uniform.

You can't have it both ways.
You can't pretend to be participants when you're really on duty policing the participants.

BLM was right.

This is a bizarre conspiracy theory.

The police participation in these parades is not an "undercover in plain-sight" sting operation to keep tabs on homosexuals and other undesirables.

Police participate in these parades to show support for the gay community, which is significant in light of the historical harassment of gay Canadians by police forces, particularly the Toronto police and to a less infamous extent the Edmonton police as well.

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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2019, 05:14:40 pm »
Uniformed police participating in Fraser Valley Pride has never been an issue. On the other hand, the event hasnít been held hostage by special interests like some other cities.
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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #73 on: May 18, 2019, 09:27:24 pm »
Uniformed police participating in Fraser Valley Pride has never been an issue. On the other hand, the event hasnít been held hostage by special interests like some other cities.
Are they paid?
Are they armed?

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Re: Edmonton Pride Festival 2019 canceled.
« Reply #74 on: May 18, 2019, 10:00:24 pm »
Are they paid?
Are they armed?

Don't know.
What does it matter, do you think they are going to shoot someone?
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