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Offline MH

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Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« on: November 30, 2017, 05:38:08 am »
http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/lab-grown-clean-meat-is-almost-here-will-you-eat-it

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Shapiro’s book is a wake-up call informing Americans that not only will lab-grown, cultured meat be healthier—unnecessary antibiotic usage on animals living in crowded, contaminated quarters has made the quality of much of our meat questionable at best—it will also tremendously reduce animal suffering.

Lab grown meat ?  Would you eat it ?  I definitely would.  The article says 2/3 would try it, and also that there was initially some skepticism about 'unnatural' ice.  Jeez, yeah, all of those potential chemicals in your life from airbourne machine effluent from the refrigerator fan, etc.  Nobody complains about that today....

http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/answering-how-a-sausage-gets-made-will-be-more-complicated-in-2020

This says it's now $11.36, which I think is the cost of a franken-burger, not a pound....

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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 10:11:47 am »
Probably I would not eat it.  I barely eat meat now.  I am living with a T-Rex out in the country though, so we generally get beef, chicken and eggs from local farmers.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 11:22:43 am »
If it's healthier then I don't see why not. As long as it doesn't make a second head grow out of my back or something...
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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 12:32:44 pm »
What's in hamburger anyway?
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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 05:23:36 pm »
What's in hamburger anyway?

Jeez, that is something I don't think about.

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 06:05:04 pm »
Jeez, that is something I don't think about.

Probably a good thing not to, imo.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 06:15:13 pm »
Probably a good thing not to, imo.

I suppose you are right.  I think this could be a great thing for the environment, the economy and ignorant eaters like yours truly.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 10:34:10 pm »
I know a microbiology researcher who says the stuff we eat is far too clean.    He's referring to excessive sanitation.  But as far as food that has less artificial hormones and antibiotics, I can't see a downside.

If it's safe and it tastes good, I will eat it.


I recall a William Gibson book--  maybe it was Count Zero or Neuromancer-- where one of the characters meets an incredibly wealthy person for dinner.  He's perplexed that the steak is so bland.   It's explained to him that the steak is bland because it was made from a real cow that grazed in a real field on real grass, as opposed to an animal grown in a vat that was fed a diet of krill.


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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 02:19:09 pm »
I know a microbiology researcher who says the stuff we eat is far too clean.    He's referring to excessive sanitation.  But as far as food that has less artificial hormones and antibiotics, I can't see a downside.

If it's safe and it tastes good, I will eat it.


I recall a William Gibson book--  maybe it was Count Zero or Neuromancer-- where one of the characters meets an incredibly wealthy person for dinner.  He's perplexed that the steak is so bland.   It's explained to him that the steak is bland because it was made from a real cow that grazed in a real field on real grass, as opposed to an animal grown in a vat that was fed a diet of krill.

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It's similar to the notion of a super clean home as well. We need germs now and then to keep our immune systems active and proactive in a sense. With a super clean environment we may be doing ourselves a disservice.

Will I eat lab grown meat? Well I'll give it a shot even with the reservations (justified or not) I have about it.

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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 05:21:06 pm »
If it's safe and it tastes good, I will eat it.

ya can't beat meat, hey kimmy?
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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2017, 12:17:30 pm »
It's similar to the notion of a super clean home as well. We need germs now and then to keep our immune systems active and proactive in a sense. With a super clean environment we may be doing ourselves a disservice.

It's not just the effects on the immune system, although that is one aspect of it.  As well the bacteria and viruses and microbes in our bodies are actually a factory for vitamins and nutrients that our bodies require.  If your kids grow up in an overly sanitized environment, they might not get the bacteria and microbes and viruses that produce all the important stuff that help our bodies.   Apparently there's a huge amount of research being done on the symbiotic relationship between us and the microbes in our body.

My acquaintance feels that it's important that kids be outside playing in the dirt and playing with other kids and animals and eating unwashed fruits and berries and stuff that they picked up off the floor and trying to eat their toys and drinking from the garden hose and all the other stuff that kids have been doing forever, because all this stuff is how people get the microbes they need into their bodies.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2017, 12:27:25 pm »
ya can't beat meat, hey kimmy?

As I say, a body like this needs fuel!  I simply could not survive on rice cakes and smashed avocado. 


My main concerns with meat have always been ethics, environmental impact, and the health effects of whatever hormones and antibiotics and mystery substances they're feeding the animals.  If there's a solution on the horizon that addresses all of these concerns, I'm actually pretty excited about that.  The Girls Who Eat Meat Adventure Club is back in action!

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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 06:06:05 pm »
I know a microbiology researcher who says the stuff we eat is far too clean.    He's referring to excessive sanitation.  But as far as food that has less artificial hormones and antibiotics, I can't see a downside.

The old saying "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is true.  Though i'd add "whatever doesn't kill you or permanently harm you makes you stronger".  Losing both your arms will make you weaker.

We're the softest wusses in human history, myself included.  My grandfather drove tanks in WWII and had the task of scraping human skeletal remains from the tank treads as it moved...meanwhile I'm using handsanitizer & drinking bottled water a few times a day.  People used to die of malnutrition/famine, now they die from overeating & sitting around getting fat.
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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 07:44:58 pm »
Lab grown meat ?  Would you eat it ?  I definitely would.
Lab grown meat is an interesting academic exercise. Industrial scale meat production will involve all of the same trade offs that come with raising animals. i.e. do you really believe that it would be  possible to have huge bioreactors consuming sugar and generating waste that did not have a problem with bacterial contamination? I don't, which means antibiotics will likely become required for "clean meat" production too. I suspect once all of the costs and trade offs are added up it will be hard to compete with natural meat.
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Re: Clean Meat - Will you eat it ?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 11:10:47 pm »
As long as I can still have my Swanson's Salisbury Steak TV dinner I'm down.

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