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« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2020, 09:12:35 am »
Meanwhile, JT makes sure he stays out of the country.
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« Reply #121 on: February 15, 2020, 09:20:07 am »
I feel Trudeau's response is softer - like Mulroney's to Oka - than I expected. 

I think protests are a good idea, but at some point it has to end.

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« Reply #122 on: February 15, 2020, 10:05:27 am »
What are they protesting though? If a local band comes to a business arrangement with a company and all the regulations and bylaws observed, all the permits are in place, should government jump in and ask for second opinions from others?
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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #123 on: February 15, 2020, 10:23:20 am »
I think protests are a good idea, but at some point it has to end.

Yes, at some point it has to end. In any protest, there are [at least] two sides. What is interesting is ones expectation that the side they support should make no compromise.
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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #124 on: February 15, 2020, 10:33:23 am »
Meanwhile, JT makes sure he stays out of the country.

He's literally in Ottawa.

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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #125 on: February 15, 2020, 10:35:21 am »
I feel Trudeau's response is softer - like Mulroney's to Oka - than I expected. 

I think protests are a good idea, but at some point it has to end.

In late December 2012, at the height of the Idle No More movement, there was a 13-day blockade of a rail line near Sarnia, Ont. Before the protest ended, CN Rail conveyed its frustration to federal officials — but Stephen Harper's government didn't send in the RCMP or the military to break it up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-indigenous-first-nations-pipeline-rail-protests-1.5463827
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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #126 on: February 15, 2020, 11:17:32 am »
Yes, at some point it has to end. In any protest, there are [at least] two sides. What is interesting is ones expectation that the side they support should make no compromise.

I see this as an internal FN power struggle. Who speaks for FN, hereditary chiefs or elected band councils? The non FN people involved are either just useful fools or trying to use this particular struggle to advance their own agendas.
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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #127 on: February 15, 2020, 11:19:53 am »
He's literally in Ottawa.
He was in Germany yesterday.
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« Reply #128 on: February 15, 2020, 11:28:52 am »
He was in Germany yesterday.

Dang, those new fangled flying machines certainly get people around quickly. In my day it took 4 days by rail, 18 days by steam ship, and another 3 days by rail to get from Germany to Ottawa.

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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #130 on: February 16, 2020, 10:25:32 am »
Turns out the hereditary chiefs weren't against a pipeline after all, just parts of the present route.
Looking more and more like an internal turf war.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/wetsuweten-coastal-gaslink-pipeline-alternative-path-1.5464945
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« Reply #131 on: February 16, 2020, 10:34:03 am »
Killing our oil and gas industry is going to save the planet all right.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/russian-arctic-oil-and-gas-explained-1.5462754

Well maybe our pipeline companies can make some money building them for the Russians if they can't build them here.
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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #132 on: February 16, 2020, 02:25:11 pm »
Turns out the hereditary chiefs weren't against a pipeline after all, just parts of the present route.
Looking more and more like an internal turf war.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/wetsuweten-coastal-gaslink-pipeline-alternative-path-1.5464945

Seems like, the company should have been less stubborn.

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Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #133 on: February 16, 2020, 02:25:49 pm »
Killing our oil and gas industry is going to save the planet all right.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/russian-arctic-oil-and-gas-explained-1.5462754

Well maybe our pipeline companies can make some money building them for the Russians if they can't build them here.

Russia is certainly a model for us to follow.

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« Reply #134 on: February 16, 2020, 02:30:13 pm »
Russia is certainly a model for us to follow.

Nothing to do with following Russia. We kill our own industry and make ourselves poorer for nothing. Lowering demand is what will lower consumption, not Canadians trying to look noble while the rest of the world carries on.
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