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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #210 on: October 15, 2020, 01:49:59 pm »
Personally I would like to see some new blood and ideas in our political system. There really isn't much difference in the way the old actors operate.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #211 on: October 15, 2020, 01:55:43 pm »
Personally I would like to see some new blood and ideas in our political system. There really isn't much difference in the way the old actors operate.

You want to see a B.C. Liberal government but you need to invent a novel way of saying that.

So let's dance wilbur so we can see if it turns out more satisfying for you than the questions on your two-tier dreams?
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #212 on: October 15, 2020, 02:05:04 pm »
You want to see a B.C. Liberal government but you need to invent a novel way of saying that.

So let's dance wilbur so we can see if it turns out more satisfying for you than the questions on your two-tier dreams?

No I don't, I just don't want to see a majority. I voted NDP in 2017 because I really felt the Liberals needed a time out and I'm not convinced it should be over.

While I didn't agree with everything the NDP did, on balance I thought they were doing a reasonable job. I might be naive but when the subject of Horgan calling an election came up, I really didn't think he would do it. He signed an agreement, he isn't actually going to break his word. When he did, it surprised me how disappointed I was. In one day he went from being someone I had some regard for to just another self serving politician who's word is only good as long as they see it in their interest to keep it. Shit like that matters to me and i don't see why I should support it.

Have the same feeling about Trudeau. He hasn't been a bad PM but he has some serious ethical challenges. So does Horgan.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #213 on: October 15, 2020, 02:24:47 pm »
No I don't, I just don't want to see a majority. I voted NDP in 2017 because I really felt the Liberals needed a time out and I'm not convinced it should be over.

While I didn't agree with everything the NDP did, on balance I thought they were doing a reasonable job. I might be naive but when the subject of Horgan calling an election came up, I really didn't think he would do it. He signed an agreement, he isn't actually going to break his word. When he did, it surprised me how disappointed I was. In one day he went from being someone I had some regard for to just another self serving politician who's word is only good as long as they see it in their interest to keep it. Shit like that matters to me and i don't see why I should support it.

Have the same feeling about Trudeau. He hasn't been a bad PM but he has some serious ethical challenges. So does Horgan.

Neither Horgan or Trudeau want anything to do with you when you are the kind of person who would be pushing for a two-tier health care system. And that's not saying that I believe you ever voted NDP!
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #214 on: October 15, 2020, 02:42:09 pm »
Neither Horgan or Trudeau want anything to do with you when you are the kind of person who would be pushing for a two-tier health care system. And that's not saying that I believe you ever voted NDP!

Believe whatever you want but I'll tell you one thing.  If I give you my word I will keep it unless you release me, even if it costs me. If you give me your word and break it, I will never trust you again.
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« Reply #215 on: October 15, 2020, 03:39:59 pm »
I think they are, but I don't think they can win on a limited agenda and also fwiw, their title. So they are socially responsible on environmental issues but a wild card on everything else. The concern for the enrironment hasn't risen to the point at which it can be the only consideration.

However, I would add that it should have done so by now.

Not enough reason to wast my vote on a losing party. Anyway, that's my prediction. Would you like to make one too?

I saw your post on one of the Joe Biden or Trump threads where you said (to paraphrase) that Biden isn't left enough and America needs someone like Bernie Sanders. 

It's interesting because I see parallels between Bernie and the Greens.  Amazing ideas but preaching to a society that as a whole, isn't quite ready yet. 

Given your thoughts on Bernie I would've pegged you as someone who would not care about a 'waste your vote' within a two-party system and support an ideological leftist party.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #216 on: October 15, 2020, 08:35:36 pm »
One BC LiberalMLA says free contraceptives is akin to eugenics.  ???

He’s now resigned.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/laurie-throness-resigns-from-b-c-liberal-party-after-comparing-free-contraception-to-eugenics-1.5763779

His riding is a very safe Liberal riding.  So what happens if he wins anyway?

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #217 on: October 15, 2020, 08:53:26 pm »
If he wins I guess he is an independent.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #218 on: October 15, 2020, 09:36:23 pm »
If he wins I guess he is an independent.

But his ballot says “Liberal”.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #219 on: October 15, 2020, 10:41:07 pm »
But his ballot says “Liberal”.

I don't know how it will work because they just allow a party to be listed instead of the candidate's name on mail in ballots. I think that is a big mistake. It's bad for a candidate and it is bad for a party when this happens. A vote in that riding should really be delayed until they can get it right.
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« Reply #220 on: October 16, 2020, 12:22:55 pm »
I saw your post on one of the Joe Biden or Trump threads where you said (to paraphrase) that Biden isn't left enough and America needs someone like Bernie Sanders. 

It's interesting because I see parallels between Bernie and the Greens.  Amazing ideas but preaching to a society that as a whole, isn't quite ready yet. 

Given your thoughts on Bernie I would've pegged you as someone who would not care about a 'waste your vote' within a two-party system and support an ideological leftist party.

I can agree with the parallel you are suggesting with the Greens and Bernie, although I still think their situation has become so corrupted now that it gives Bernie or Bernie copycats a better chance than the Greens in Canada.

I don't go to the polls to waste my vote so I nearly always vote for the candidate that has the best chance of beating the Conservative or in the case of B.C. politics, the Liberal.

However, I don't run around advertising my opinion because it could be destructive to parties such as the Greens and I don't want that.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #221 on: October 16, 2020, 12:38:47 pm »
I can agree with the parallel you are suggesting with the Greens and Bernie, although I still think their situation has become so corrupted now that it gives Bernie or Bernie copycats a better chance than the Greens in Canada.

Bernie joins the Democrats when he wants any chance of winning the presidency.  He could run as an independent, but he would lose.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #222 on: October 24, 2020, 12:54:22 am »
We're not gonna know the results until November 16thish.  Bummer.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/elections-bc-how-will-ballots-be-counted-1.5774372

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #223 on: October 24, 2020, 09:19:00 am »
We're not gonna know the results until November 16thish.  Bummer.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/elections-bc-how-will-ballots-be-counted-1.5774372

But hey, Horgan will get his majority an that’s all that counts, With the pandemic accelerating he goes AWOL for nearly two months and leaves Dr. Bonnie holding the bag. There is something wrong with being rewarded for that.
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« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2020, 09:33:20 am »
Plus it is only going to cost us around $50 million.
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