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« Reply #195 on: October 12, 2020, 04:25:07 pm »
Looked to me like it was more of a dig at Sultan as well. He is 87, seems like he is still vulnerable to an attractive woman's charm. At worst, Thornthwaite might be accused of being catty.  IMO

Ma was milking it as much as possible on this morning's news. Apparently it is a dire insult to all women and anyone one who is LGBT or gender identified.
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« Reply #196 on: October 12, 2020, 05:14:07 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/thornthwaite-comments-bowinn-ma-1.5759112

Anyone following this story about Jane Thornthwaite and Bowinn Ma?  I watched the video, ready to be outraged, but I don't see anything of what she said as a dig at Ma.  She was jabbing Ralph Sultan for thinking with the wrong head.

Am I just losing my progressive cred?

ETA - in a professional setting it'd be inappropriate to make those remarks about your colleagues, agreed -- but I still see the dig at Sultan, not Ma.

What I heard was Thornthwaite starting out by saying that Ma had "it" and knew how to use it  or words to that affect.  After that  her focus switched to Ralph, but that first comment implied that Wa's primary asset (?) was her body or looks, not sure. 

The whole thing sounded to me like nasty gossip and inappropriate, but also very "human" so I didn't feel particularly offended.   What human hasn't said nasty, stupid or inappropriate things?

Mostly I wondered who sent the video.  Someone on the call who has it in for Jane?  Someone who has access to the meeting recordings and NDP preference?

I'm not a Liberal party supporter, in case anyone thinks I'd be furious if an NDP politician was the culprit.

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« Reply #197 on: October 12, 2020, 06:02:49 pm »
What I heard was Thornthwaite starting out by saying that Ma had "it" and knew how to use it  or words to that affect.  After that  her focus switched to Ralph, but that first comment implied that Wa's primary asset (?) was her body or looks, not sure. 


Hmmm, I just watched again and caught that.  Yeah, ok, it was a bitchy thing to say and took away from the rest of her roast which WAS about Sultan. 


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« Reply #198 on: October 12, 2020, 08:00:23 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/thornthwaite-comments-bowinn-ma-1.5759112

Anyone following this story about Jane Thornthwaite and Bowinn Ma?  I watched the video, ready to be outraged, but I don't see anything of what she said as a dig at Ma.  She was jabbing Ralph Sultan for thinking with the wrong head.

Am I just losing my progressive cred?

ETA - in a professional setting it'd be inappropriate to make those remarks about your colleagues, agreed -- but I still see the dig at Sultan, not Ma.

I found it in poor taste to bring Ma into this and kind of ‘slut-shame’ her...   she wasn’t part of the roast.  The attempt at a joke fell flat, or worse, was inappropriate.  But being a roast on a fellow Liberal, I found it unsurprising that an attempt at bawdy humour might go wrong.   

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« Reply #199 on: October 12, 2020, 09:46:47 pm »
I found it in poor taste to bring Ma into this and kind of ‘slut-shame’ her...   she wasn’t part of the roast.  The attempt at a joke fell flat, or worse, was inappropriate.  But being a roast on a fellow Liberal, I found it unsurprising that an attempt at bawdy humour might go wrong.   

It was in poor taste but since when have poor taste jokes not been part of roasts? And for that matter, alcohol.
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« Reply #200 on: October 13, 2020, 10:34:32 am »
It was in poor taste but since when have poor taste jokes not been part of roasts?
When people grind the roast into chuck. Then it's more like a chimpanzee flinging crap.

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« Reply #201 on: October 14, 2020, 01:08:46 am »
Leaders' debates impressions:

I thought Andrew Wilkinson is reading from a teleprompter at the beginning but it went on like that throughout the whole debate.  What an awful persona. 

Sonia Furstenau is impressive but she needs voice coaching.  This is not a dig at her being a woman, many men in high power positions take voice coaching too.  Nevertheless, she should be polling second place instead of Wilkinson.

Horgan is prepared with all his talking points and comes across convincingly.  He's doing better than I thought he would.

After the Trump/Biden debate it's really nice to see level-headed civilized people talking actual policies instead of personal attacks.
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« Reply #202 on: October 14, 2020, 05:44:11 pm »
I thing a new NDP Green coalition with a Premier Furstenau would be hilarious.
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« Reply #203 on: October 14, 2020, 06:48:41 pm »
I thing a new NDP Green coalition with a Premier Furstenau would be hilarious.

What would make that hilarious?

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« Reply #204 on: October 14, 2020, 06:55:32 pm »
What would make that hilarious?

I meant in a good way. It might make politicians think twice in future about calling unnecessary elections.
I also think it might be worth a try, I don't like majority governments anyway and huge majorities are even worse.
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« Reply #205 on: October 14, 2020, 08:19:51 pm »
I meant in a good way. It might make politicians think twice in future about calling unnecessary elections.
I also think it might be worth a try, I don't like majority governments anyway and huge majorities are even worse.

I wouldn’t be opposed....  and it would definitely be karmic!  But Greens will be lucky to hold 3 seats.

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« Reply #206 on: October 14, 2020, 08:42:17 pm »
I wouldn’t be opposed....  and it would definitely be karmic!  But Greens will be lucky to hold 3 seats.

It's not going to happen but so far I have a much better feeling about Furstenau than I ever did about Weaver.
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« Reply #207 on: October 15, 2020, 01:29:50 pm »
Could be a wipeout for the Greens. Mainly because it's most likely going to be a landslide for the NDP due to the rot in the rightist politics south of the border.
And also because most voters understand that the Green revolution has to come from within a socially responsible political party. It's just too bad that Trump hasn't been defeated already, as opposed to expectations of him going down in flames.
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« Reply #208 on: October 15, 2020, 01:30:44 pm »
Could be a wipeout for the Greens. Mainly because it's most likely going to be a landslide for the NDP due to the rot in the rightist politics south of the border.
And also because most voters understand that the Green revolution has to come from within a socially responsible political party. It's just too bad that Trump hasn't been defeated already, as opposed to expectations of him going down in flames.

How are the Greens not ‘socially responsible’?
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« Reply #209 on: October 15, 2020, 01:42:50 pm »
How are the Greens not ‘socially responsible’?

I think they are, but I don't think they can win on a limited agenda and also fwiw, their title. So they are socially responsible on environmental issues but a wild card on everything else. The concern for the enrironment hasn't risen to the point at which it can be the only consideration.

However, I would add that it should have done so by now.

Not enough reason to wast my vote on a losing party. Anyway, that's my prediction. Would you like to make one too?
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