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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2017, 09:36:11 am »
It was the same problem with the Ontario Liberals, they are certainly well past their best before date. The issue is credible alternatives.

Another reason I like proportional representation. Perhaps more people would support alternatives if they had any chance of getting some influence.

No, the issue is that liberals want to vote liberal, no matter what, no matter what they have accomplished or done, credible alternatives is code speak for, not liberal.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2017, 03:08:00 pm »
No, the issue is that liberals want to vote liberal, no matter what, no matter what they have accomplished or done, credible alternatives is code speak for, not liberal.
Same can be said of some conservatives.  Also,  BC Liberals are more like Conservatives than Liberal, so that's is who the die-hard conservatives will vote for.   
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2017, 09:45:03 am »
There have been, apparently, $140 million of tax breaks given out, and the result is ... 300 jobs.

http://www.news1130.com/2017/05/03/liberal-leader-dismissing-latest-wild-west-article-new-york-times/

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-liberals-under-fire-for-mystery-program-that-gives-tax-breaks-to-wealthy-foreign-companies

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/world/canada/british-columbias-business-temptation-an-opaque-array-of-tax-breaks.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

As I read and hear more about this "Advantage BC" stuff, I think it's the final straw for me. There's no good reason for this lack of transparency. The only reason I can think of that it might have been set up in such a way is to dodge Freedom of Information requests.  When something is done in what appears to be a deliberate effort to avoid transparency, I think it's completely reasonable to suspect that shenanigans are going on.

Here in the Kim City/Lost Lake riding, I can vote for or against Ms Clark directly. I suspect she'll win anyway, but I'll be voting for her NDP opponent.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2017, 02:12:15 pm »
I found out my husband voted Greens because of his irrational hatred of the NDP. 

In my view, a vote for the Greens in a 'too close to call' riding like ours is a vote for the Liberals.

I asked him to sleep on the couch for the foreseeable future.
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2017, 03:05:15 pm »
1. Hatred of the BC NDP is perfectly rational.

2. A vote for Green is a vote against the NDP: he's a keeper.

3. Maybe he is happier on the couch?  ;D
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 03:08:20 pm by msj »
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2017, 03:26:38 pm »
Oh look, a Liberal supporter basking in the knowledge that the Greens are the only way their party will win an election.

Shocking.








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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2017, 03:50:43 pm »
An NDP'er who feigns shock at a Christy Clark hater's glee that the rationally hated NDP have to fend off the Greens is quite delightful on this sunny afternoon!   :D

« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 03:56:44 pm by msj »
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2017, 09:24:20 am »
Wellllll, looks like we get a minority government. 

I expect Ms Clark to do the Stephen Harper thing, and run a government without making a coalition and do as she wishes, secure in the knowledge that nobody is going to want to force another election.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2017, 11:40:44 am »
There's still a good chance the Liberals will get their majority.  The NDP candidate in Courtnay-Comox won by 9 votes and the Liberal candidate is a former member of the armed forces so the absentee ballots may very well be a game changer.

And if the seats remain the same, my prediction is Andrew Weaver will officially join the Liberals for a coalition now that he failed to deliver on handing them another victory through vote splitting.

The way he kept attacking Horgan throughout the campaign and cozying up to the Liberals even though NDP is much more aligned with the Green environmental platform, it was quite obvious which one of the viable parties Weaver is rooting for.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2017, 09:45:26 am »
This idea that the Greens took votes away from the NDP is odd:

2009 election:  Liberals 45.8% NDP 42.2% GP 8.2%

2013 election: Liberals 44.1 NDP 39.7 GP 8.1

2017 election: Liberals 40.9 NDP 39.9 GP 16.7

Note that 2017 is based on initial count as absentee votes will not be counted until May 22-24. 
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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2017, 09:03:19 pm »
YEP well all the votes are counted and Christy Clark still doesn't have a majority, and now both her and the NDP say they want to form the government.

SOOOO while you'd think the LtGov would give Christy the first crack at it, given that she is the incumbent and has the most seats, apparently that's not etched in stone and if the NDP and Greens approach the LtGov with a formal coalition, she could opt to give them the first chance.


ABOUT the Lt Gov:   Judith Guichon is apparently a rancher from the Merritt area.  No doubt her lifetime of wrangling cattle has left her well prepared for dealing with this situation!


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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2017, 02:17:20 pm »
If the Greens and NDP have a formalized coalition then their coalition holds the most seats and it would be in the province's best interest that they're allowed to govern. By giving it to Clark, the Lt Gov is all but ensuring that the opposition will just bring down the government at the first opportunity. The only option then would be to allow the coalition to govern, since it's not like they'll call an election immediately after just having one.

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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2017, 06:24:29 pm »
I think another election within 18 month is prteey much assured regardless of who forms the government. Elections are a crap shoot for every party and they will have to think long and hard before forcing one.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 09:40:29 am »
I think another election within 18 month is prteey much assured regardless of who forms the government. Elections are a crap shoot for every party and they will have to think long and hard before forcing one.
Not if there's a formal coalition. Then they have a majority.

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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2017, 09:54:49 am »
Not if there's a formal coalition. Then they have a majority.

It's still a coalition between two parties, many of who's interests are not the same. It can fall apart at any time. It all depends on how much each of them are willing to give in order for he coalition  to stay together.