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« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2020, 01:16:51 pm »
He has been governing like a majority for three years, nothing has changed.
Having to deal with duly elected representatives isn't pandering.
The people elected a minority government John, deal with it.

You pretty much are addressing his point.  People elected a minority government 3 years ago and he's had to work with the Greens to make things work. 

He's now in a position where he could potentially have a true NDP majority and he (may be) willing to make the gamble.

Hopefully not, but I can see why it'd be worth it to him.  Who knows what goes on behinds the scenes with the Greens.

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« Reply #106 on: September 18, 2020, 01:45:05 pm »
It will be annoying if we have to contend with both a provincial and federal election.

That said, I'd like to see NDP in for a other term.

I'd like to not see the Liberals in again for another term, but not sure the answer are the Conservatives, unless they can ease up on the economic fear-mongering.  I generally support social programs that would allow people food/shelter security and avoid the heartbreak of seniors and disabled reduced to begging on the street, but I'm not entirely comfortable that governments can provide all the social programs that various groups would like, unless they raise taxes on the wealthy, or at least make them pay taxes, and no government seems keen to do that. 

I'm no economic scholar of course, but didn't the US enjoy its strongest growth and middle class when taxes were high on rich people, and universities were free or close to it?  Norwegian countries that have strong social programs also seem to have good economies, so I don't understand the idea that lower taxes equal higher standard of living.

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« Reply #107 on: September 18, 2020, 01:54:04 pm »
I don't think the Greens matter that much, the Liberals and Greens aren't going to force an election unless Horgan pulls out some kind of poison pill legislation they just can't accept.

I don't think minority governments should be held to fixed election dates because it gives complete control of early election timing to the opposition parties, but I think it should be made very difficult for early elections to be called by sitting governments. The electorate gave them a minority and it is their job to do their best to make it work.

I can see that it might be worth it to him as well but it isn't supposed to be about him.
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« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2020, 09:05:11 pm »
I'm fine with the way politics are unfolding in Canada under the weight of COVID, things seem more unified and reasonable than at anytime I can recall.  Perhaps the horror show to the south is responsible given how it seems to provide a graphic illustration of what won't work - rabid partisanship in particular.

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« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2020, 11:58:58 am »
I'm fine with the way politics are unfolding in Canada under the weight of COVID, things seem more unified and reasonable than at anytime I can recall.  Perhaps the horror show to the south is responsible given how it seems to provide a graphic illustration of what won't work - rabid partisanship in particular.

I agree. Do you really want to take a chance on stoking that partisanship by forcing an election most people don't want.
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« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2020, 12:58:18 pm »
Quote from: BC Premier John Horgan
pandemic... spandemic

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« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2020, 01:16:36 pm »
Well, Horgan has just shown he's no different from any other opportunist politician.
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« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2020, 06:50:42 pm »
Well, Horgan has just shown he's no different from any other opportunist politician.

It certainly wonít make me change my vote, but itís not a great plan...

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« Reply #113 on: September 21, 2020, 07:41:04 pm »
It certainly wonít make me change my vote, but itís not a great plan...

I'll vote however I think might help result in another minority. I don't care which party it is.
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« Reply #114 on: September 21, 2020, 09:10:52 pm »
I'll vote however I think might help result in another minority. I don't care which party it is.

This province canít have the Liberals (conservatives) back in at any cost.   Iíll vote for whomever can beat the Liberal candidate in my riding.  Likely NDP. 

Plus, we have had good governance under the NDP for the last 3 years. 
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« Reply #115 on: September 21, 2020, 11:03:26 pm »
This province canít have the Liberals (conservatives) back in at any cost.   Iíll vote for whomever can beat the Liberal candidate in my riding.  Likely NDP. 

Plus, we have had good governance under the NDP for the last 3 years.

I'm really not happy about being put in this position but I'll end up doing the same.  I just hope this doesn't backfire and we end up with a Liberal government. 

Ugh.  >:(
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« Reply #116 on: September 22, 2020, 12:15:03 am »
I have been pretty happy with the Horgan government.  I disagree with a few of the things they've done, but on balance I think they've done a good job.   I won't be sorry to see him get a majority.  And I won't be sorry to see the Greens sent back to the sidelines.

Hot take: the pandemic is with us until at least 2022, and we can't just cancel everything until then.  I'm confident that the election can be carried out with minimal risk at polling stations.

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Re: BC provincial election
« Reply #117 on: September 22, 2020, 11:36:02 am »
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Green Party leader on OPPO this week says that the PC Premier misplayed his advantage. 

I'm sure Justin Trudeau (PM) will be watching closely as to how this gambit plays out.

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« Reply #118 on: September 22, 2020, 12:40:56 pm »
I have been pretty happy with the Horgan government.  I disagree with a few of the things they've done, but on balance I think they've done a good job.   I won't be sorry to see him get a majority.  And I won't be sorry to see the Greens sent back to the sidelines.

Hot take: the pandemic is with us until at least 2022, and we can't just cancel everything until then.  I'm confident that the election can be carried out with minimal risk at polling stations.

 -k

So if the pandemic is with us now and will still be with us next year, what's the difference other than the possibility that Horgan's polls might be lower next year?
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« Reply #119 on: September 22, 2020, 12:41:55 pm »
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Green Party leader on OPPO this week says that the PC Premier misplayed his advantage. 

I'm sure Justin Trudeau (PM) will be watching closely as to how this gambit plays out.

Agreements don't mean much to politicians if they can see an advantage to not keeping one.
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