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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2019, 01:35:49 pm »
I'm talking ports.  I'm talking about access to trade, and the power BC has over AB and the RoC.

Seems like the provinces are probably very interdependent on one another.

Depends what type of product you want to trade. Used to be you couldn't carry a 6 pack of beer across borders in eastern provinces. I think things have eased up nowadays on that trade.

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« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2019, 02:41:18 pm »
Yes, all British Columbians are experts on the Alberta economy. Not.

You donít think the oil patch is a boom/bust industry? 

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« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2019, 05:22:02 pm »
It would be completely unconstitutional for BC to stop Alberta from using the ports, obviously.   Despite the fact that this hasnít gone through the courts, even our resident pretend internet lawyer would say so.   

But BC will simply take Alberta to court, win, and get reparations.  Canít let bullies get their way.

I am looking forward to less Alberta tourists with their slow RVs clogging up my roads...  threats of a BC boycott, blah, blah...   but there will be just as many Albertans vacationing in BC as ever...   they either vacation here, or move here.   Most of Kim City is populated by Albertans these days. 
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« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2019, 05:50:23 pm »
You donít think the oil patch is a boom/bust industry?

Unlike mining, forestry and real estate, right?
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« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2019, 05:51:59 pm »
Unlike mining, forestry and real estate, right?

Yes, all boom/bust...   I donít think real estate is for the same reasons, or in the same category.   Whatís your point?

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« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2019, 05:55:49 pm »
TURN OFF THE TAPS!!! 

Oh wait....    Kenney has already backtracked...   It took him 1 day after the election to move off his threats. 

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Kenney said Wednesday he and Horgan have agreed to have a longer, in-person discussion on pipelines.

"I think Premier Horgan knows very well we are serious about defending our vital economic interests," Kenney said.

On April 30, Kenney said, his government will proclaim into law the so-called turn-off-the-taps legislation against B.C.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5102373
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« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2019, 05:56:21 pm »
Yes, all boom/bust...   I donít think real estate is for the same reasons, or in the same category.   Whatís your point?

Why isn't real estate in the same category,  it has been propped up with outside money, including Albertan. Pot calling kettle.
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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2019, 05:58:24 pm »
TURN OFF THE TAPS!!! 

Oh wait....    Kenney has already backtracked...   It took him 1 day after the election to move off his threats. 

 :o
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5102373

He got a reaction from Horgan, isn't that what it is really about?
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« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2019, 06:11:00 pm »
Why isn't real estate in the same category,  it has been propped up with outside money, including Albertan. Pot calling kettle.

I didnít even disagree with you.   But itís not the resource sector.  There are different reasons for real estate boom/bust.

He got a reaction from Horgan, isn't that what it is really about?

When did Horgan ever say he wouldnít talk?  Reaction?  He got congratulated and an invitation to talk about the issues. 

It isnít what itís about...  itís about Kenney appealing to idiots who think he would actually TURN OFF THE TAPS!!!
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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2019, 06:19:01 pm »
I didnít even disagree with you.   But itís not the resource sector.  There are different reasons for real estate boom/bust.

When did Horgan ever say he wouldnít talk?  Reaction?  He got congratulated and an invitation to talk about the issues. 

It isnít what itís about...  itís about Kenney appealing to idiots who think he would actually TURN OFF THE TAPS!!!

Oversupply and lack of markets are the reason behind every boom bust.

If you think Kenney has given up on the possibility of turning off the tap, I think you would be making a big mistake. The object is to get a pipeline built, not cut BC off.
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« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2019, 06:22:31 pm »

If you think Kenney has given up on the possibility of turning off the tap, I think you would be making a big mistake. The object is to get a pipeline built, not cut BC off.

There was never the possibility....  thatís why it took him 1 day to backtrack.
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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2019, 06:36:11 pm »
There was never the possibility....  thatís why it took him 1 day to backtrack.

Maybe. BC. relies on Alberta for 90% of its petroleum products, only a fool would think they couldn't cause major trouble without going so far as cutting off all supply.
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« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2019, 06:45:28 pm »
Maybe. BC. relies on Alberta for 90% of its petroleum products, only a fool would think they couldn't cause major trouble without going so far as cutting off all supply.

It doesnít matter.  Only a complete idiot would think that this wouldnít be overturned quickly...  with compensation having to be paid to BC and oil companies, and probably Canada too.

The Government of Canada owns the pipeline.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5101561
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Bakan says it's not just the B.C. government that would challenge a turn-off-the-taps law. Distributors from the private sector and suppliers in Alberta will most likely challenge it in court as well.

"It's an economic hit to them because they are losing a market," Bakan said.

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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2019, 07:23:26 pm »
It doesnít matter.  Only a complete idiot would think that this wouldnít be overturned quickly...  with compensation having to be paid to BC and oil companies, and probably Canada too.

The Government of Canada owns the pipeline.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5101561

Compensation paid to BC for what? BC isn't paying for it.

Maybe the feds own it but if BC thinks it can dictate what comes out of the pipe,  Alberta can certainly dictate what goes into it.
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Re: Alberta provincial election
« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2019, 07:31:37 pm »
The feds are dithering because they care more about 9000 Quebec jobs than 100,000+ Alberta jobs. Deliberately creating a constitutional crisis could force the feds to stop dithering.

The hypocrisy of enviro-zealots is disgusting. They feel they are entitled to break the law whenever the law goes against them but when someone else threatens the same tactics they get all holier than thou about the rule of law.

About time the enviro-zealots got a taste of the own medicine.
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