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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by MH on November 29, 2021, 02:26:40 pm »
I think you're also underrating the technical achievement.

Dude, I can't rate anything or at least I shouldn't.  I'm only asking questions, for which you have provided answers and I thank you.
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General Discussion / Re: Woke Culture
« Last post by Black Dog on November 29, 2021, 02:22:57 pm »
What if the discrimination people use to offset other discrimination is based on bad social science?  Then it's just discrimination.

Here's a compromise: If you're going to discriminate with affirmative action you better be darn sure you're doing it properly and based on sound evidence and metrics and not pulling numbers out of your butt for the sake of "diversity".    To do otherwise should be illegal.

If you're going to do it then equality of opportunity should be the goal, not equality of outcome.  Not all racial and gender inequalities are due to discrimination.  We know this from looking at the NBA and the gender divide of new medical doctors and university grads in general.  Therefore these organizations need to get off their lazy butts and actually do some statistcal research and arrive at evidence based targets.  But they don't want to, they just want to save the world and stick their heads in the cloud without caring whose rights they infringe.

How come the pro-diversity people have to provide rigorous statistical analysis, but you can't back up your claims that affirmative action-type policies actually harm any white people?
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by Black Dog on November 29, 2021, 02:19:34 pm »
1. I haven't seen it, but if there's additional framing, writing and so on, on the scale of a Ken Burns piece then that would make sense.

I'd say he executes his vision through what footage he chooses to use and not through a ton of postfacto exposition or editorialization. And that's the source of both the charm and the frustration.

I think you're also underrating the technical achievement.
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General Discussion / Re: Woke Culture
« Last post by MH on November 29, 2021, 02:15:49 pm »
1. What if the discrimination people use to offset other discrimination is based on bad social science?  Then it's just discrimination.

2. Here's a compromise: If you're going to discriminate with affirmative action you better be darn sure you're doing it properly and based on sound evidence and metrics and not pulling numbers out of your butt for the sake of "diversity".    To do otherwise should be illegal.

3. If you're going to do it then equality of opportunity should be the goal, not equality of outcome.  Not all racial and gender inequalities are due to discrimination. 

4. We know this from looking at the NBA ...

5. and the gender divide of new medical doctors and university grads in general. 

6. Therefore these organizations need to get off their lazy butts and actually do some statistcal research and arrive at evidence based targets.  But they don't want to, they just want to save the world and stick their heads in the cloud without caring whose rights they infringe.
1. I agree - but ... what if it isn't ? It ok ?
2. I'm going to agree with you to this point.  I'm not going to comment on specific programs because we haven't listed any.  Conceptually we *might* be ok with corrections but only if they're done correctly.
3. Agreed.
4. I gave an example of why the NBA is an example of racial exclusion, though.  What did you think ?
5. Don't know about this example - is it that more women are graduating than men ?  This is likely due to a backlash effect.
6. They could do with community engagement with a "public" of informed and involved individuals. 
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by MH on November 29, 2021, 02:12:16 pm »
1. Such as? Does Ken Burns not get credit for not hopping in a time machine?

2. It's not. In fact, with "Get Back" Jackson specifically set about to offer a counternarrative to the one in Let It Be that the final sessions were completely awful. there's a lot more joy in the footage he found. My big complaint is teh run time.

1. I haven't seen it, but if there's additional framing, writing and so on, on the scale of a Ken Burns piece then that would make sense.

2. kk
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General Discussion / Re: Woke Culture
« Last post by Nipples Von Graham on November 29, 2021, 01:57:14 pm »
I get it.  But what if you can only defeat discrimination by using it against itself?

What if the discrimination people use to offset other discrimination is based on bad social science?  Then it's just discrimination.

Here's a compromise: If you're going to discriminate with affirmative action you better be darn sure you're doing it properly and based on sound evidence and metrics and not pulling numbers out of your butt for the sake of "diversity".    To do otherwise should be illegal.

If you're going to do it then equality of opportunity should be the goal, not equality of outcome.  Not all racial and gender inequalities are due to discrimination.  We know this from looking at the NBA and the gender divide of new medical doctors and university grads in general.  Therefore these organizations need to get off their lazy butts and actually do some statistcal research and arrive at evidence based targets.  But they don't want to, they just want to save the world and stick their heads in the cloud without caring whose rights they infringe.
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by Black Dog on November 29, 2021, 01:47:47 pm »
1. I think most 'director' credits involve more.

Such as? Does Ken Burns not get credit for not hopping in a time machine?

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2. I saw it.  What I am hearing sounds like... that film.

It's not. In fact, with "Get Back" Jackson specifically set about to offer a counternarrative to the one in Let It Be that the final sessions were completely awful. there's a lot more joy in the footage he found. My big complaint is teh run time.
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by MH on November 29, 2021, 01:09:50 pm »
1. Why would using previously existing footage matter? Dude combed through 60 hours of footage, restored it and enhanced the audio with the state of the art technology. Took him four years to make! Did you see his WW1 doc "They Shall Not Grow Old?"

2. I have not seen the original in its entirety, just the rooftop concert sequence.

1. I think most 'director' credits involve more.
2. I saw it.  What I am hearing sounds like... that film.
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by Black Dog on November 29, 2021, 12:31:29 pm »
1. can you credit Jackson with this since he's using found footage ?
2. did you see Let It Be ?

1. Why would using previously existing footage matter? Dude combed through 60 hours of footage, restored it and enhanced the audio with the state of the art technology. Took him four years to make! Did you see his WW1 doc "They Shall Not Grow Old?"

2. I have not seen the original in its entirety, just the rooftop concert sequence.
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General Discussion / Re: All purpose music thread!
« Last post by MH on November 29, 2021, 10:42:53 am »
1. the fly-on-the-wall approach Jackson used feels much more intimate than a more didactic one, there's no denying there are large parts that feel like a slog as you watch the band bicker, plunk through half baked song ideas and loaf around shooting the ****.

2. Anyway, I've hit the part where Billy Preston joins the band on keyboard and things really seem to be picking up so maybe the back half will be stronger.


1. can you credit Jackson with this since he's using found footage ?
2. did you see Let It Be ?
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