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Federal Politics => Canadian Politics => Topic started by: Michael Hardner on August 11, 2020, 12:08:51 pm


Title: Prisoners Rights
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 11, 2020, 12:08:51 pm
This is an area that doesn't get discussed much.  Mr. Ling has limited resources but even so seems to have found some items worth discussion.

One example: somebody punished for 'inciting' when they were encouraging people to file grievances, which is their right.

https://theline.substack.com/p/justin-ling-prisoners-also-deserve

It would be great if a more substantial investigation happened.  There are things about prisons that don't get enough coverage remember this ?

Five Kingston Penitentiary guards, already suspended amid an RCMP-led probe of prison drug-dealing and other offences, were fired yesterday.

The move followed years of rumours of staff collusion in the smuggling of drugs into Canada's largest concentration of federal prisons. Three Kingston-area guards have committed suicide since the investigation began, one with a service pistol he borrowed from a fellow guard.

The five guards were suspended on March 1 after Kingston Penitentiary warden Monty Bourke received information from a once-secret task force that has been investigating allegations of corruption at the penitentiary


https://tinyurl.com/kingstonpen
Title: Re: Prisoners Rights
Post by: Dia on August 11, 2020, 05:54:16 pm
The prison system is not what people imagine it to be - guards and inmates alike are subject to physical, sexual and mental abuse.  Inmates and guards come out of prison with various degrees of PTSD. 

Too many people fling out that old saw "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime", as if being tougher, meaner and less compassionate is what we need in ex-cons.  They also forget that the same stresses prisoners face are shared in large part by guards. 

The entire prison system needs an overall, but until our society understands that punishment is the least effective method of rehabilitating criminals, we're stuck in our current system.

Prison should be reserved for people who are "unable" to change - **** who pursue their urges and sociopaths who prey on others, for example. 

Drug related crimes, gang-related crimes, and similar are a combination of social and community failures, imo, but those prisoners have the best chance at leading productive lives outside of prison, if actual rehab was the goal rather than revenge and punishment.

The differences in treatment and sentencing between monied and poor criminals should be eliminated.  But I guess that's just another pipe dream.