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Title: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on July 30, 2020, 07:55:15 pm
British GP is this weekend.  Sergio Perez, driver for Racing Point, has tested positive for COVID.  Hopefully it hasn't spread.

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Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on July 30, 2020, 09:38:48 pm
Oh Oh, The British GP is one of the highlights of the season. One of the best tracks and the site of the first F1 world championship race in 1950.
Watching the cars go flat out through Maggots and Becketts is mind bending.

Wonder if he went home to Mexico during the two weak break.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on July 31, 2020, 01:03:49 pm
Hulkenberg taking over from Perez for British GP. Good to see him back, hopefully he can get that podium at last.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on July 31, 2020, 06:31:41 pm
Lance Stroll had the fastest time in practice...  hope that translates to the qualifying and race!

Good Canadian kid...

Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on July 31, 2020, 10:52:50 pm
Lance Stroll had the fastest time in practice...  hope that translates to the qualifying and race!

Good Canadian kid...
The Racing Point is fast, it is basically last yearís Mercedes. Expect Hamilton to crank it up tomorrow but Stroll should do well.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 01, 2020, 02:39:25 pm
The Racing Point is fast, it is basically last yearís Mercedes. Expect Hamilton to crank it up tomorrow but Stroll should do well.

Stroll qualified well, but a bit below expectations.  Hope the race goes well for him.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 01, 2020, 10:11:01 pm
Third row is pretty good. Noris continues to impress and Hamilton makes everyone else look average. Again.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 01, 2020, 11:39:33 pm
Love Lando's new helmet, designed by a six year old fan

(https://www.thedrive.com/content/2020/07/lando-norris-helmet.jpg?quality=85)
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: kimmy on August 02, 2020, 12:36:26 pm
vrooooom!

 -k
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 03, 2020, 01:19:20 pm
Mercedes running away with it again until Bottas has a tire failure two laps before the end and winds up 11th, Hamilton has the same tire fail on the last lap with a 30 second lead but manages to still cross the line 5 seconds ahead.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 03, 2020, 06:27:55 pm
Mercedes running away with it again until Bottas has a tire failure two laps before the end and winds up 11th, Hamilton has the same tire fail on the last lap with a 30 second lead but manages to still cross the line 5 seconds ahead.
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Quite a dull race, until the last 5 laps!   That was interesting.  There was a bunch of chatter about the tyres not being good enough that Pirelli put out, but who says the hard tyres have to last 50 laps.  It's better for the fans if they do wear out.  Apparently, the tyre compounds are going to be softer across the board for the next race, so it will make it interesting.

As much as Mercedes is far and away the better car this year, it's still very interesting with the rest of the pack.

Poor Ferrari....  ugh.  :'(
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 06, 2020, 04:51:34 pm
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Quite a dull race, until the last 5 laps!   That was interesting.  There was a bunch of chatter about the tyres not being good enough that Pirelli put out, but who says the hard tyres have to last 50 laps.  It's better for the fans if they do wear out.  Apparently, the tyre compounds are going to be softer across the board for the next race, so it will make it interesting.

As much as Mercedes is far and away the better car this year, it's still very interesting with the rest of the pack.

Poor Ferrari....  ugh.  :'(

For sure this weekends race will be a two stop which is great as far as I'm concerned. I wish they all were. Watching Mercedes win is getting a bit old. Really wish we could see Hamilton and Verstappen go head to head in equal cars. Hopefully the big changes for 2022 will even things up a bit, too bad Covid put them back a year. McLaren going back to Mercedes power might make things interesting.

Tyres eh. Is that the Brit in you or are you just speaking F1?
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 08, 2020, 06:42:15 pm
Mercedes swap places on the grid and stand in Hulkenberg gets his neck in shape and qualifies the pink Mercedes third. Hope he can finally get that podium.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2020, 10:44:19 pm
Mercedes swap places on the grid and stand in Hulkenberg gets his neck in shape and qualifies the pink Mercedes third. Hope he can finally get that podium.

Not good for Stroll....   he better step up his game.  Right now, he looks far from one of the elite drivers on the grid.

Should be a good race tomorrow... from 3rd to 12th that is.  Mercedes is so far ahead of everyone else.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 09, 2020, 11:51:19 am
Verstappen and Red Bull make Mercedes look vulnerable. Great strategy and a great driver.
Stroll is fine, his dad owns the team.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 09, 2020, 01:46:56 pm
Verstappen and Red Bull make Mercedes look vulnerable. Great strategy and a great driver.

Vulnerable is a strong word. 

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Stroll is fine, his dad owns the team.

Not talking about his place on the team.  I want the Canadian kid to be a great driver....   

He had a decent race today, but not outstanding.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 09, 2020, 04:12:12 pm
Vulnerable is a strong word. 

Not talking about his place on the team.  I want the Canadian kid to be a great driver....   

He had a decent race today, but not outstanding.
They certainly look vulnerable when it comes to tire degradation. Hamilton had fewer laps ont his tires at the end but they were completely trashed compared  to Verstappenís

I would like to see Stroll do well too. He has shown he can drive and won championships in F3 but moving up to F1 is like going from junior to the NHL and this is his third season in F1.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 13, 2020, 05:01:48 pm
Spanish GP is this weekend from Barcelona.  Not the best track generally, but given the heat and Mercedesí issues with their tyres in hotter temps, it should make for a good race.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/08/13/later-date-for-spanish-grand-prix-means-three-hot-days-ahead/

Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 14, 2020, 11:41:00 am
Spanish GP is this weekend from Barcelona.  Not the best track generally, but given the heat and Mercedesí issues with their tyres in hotter temps, it should make for a good race.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/08/13/later-date-for-spanish-grand-prix-means-three-hot-days-ahead/

Not my favourite track either but better than Paul Ricard and it's stupid painted off zones.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on August 16, 2020, 12:57:40 pm
Not a bad race..  not the most exciting.... 

Great start and result for the Canadian Lance Stroll. 
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 16, 2020, 01:25:08 pm
Mercedes tyre troubles were supposed to give Red Bull an advantage today, didn't happen. After Verstappen's Red Bull, Racing Point the best of the rest. Solid race for Stroll. Finally a good race for Vettel.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: MH on August 16, 2020, 05:42:56 pm
"Stroll is the son of billionaire Canadian businessman Lawrence Stroll "

Just thinking some nepotism may be involved here...  :o
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 16, 2020, 07:10:35 pm
"Stroll is the son of billionaire Canadian businessman Lawrence Stroll "

Just thinking some nepotism may be involved here...  :o
Of course, he owns a good share of the team and is the chairman of Aston Martin. The team will b rebranded Aston Martin.

The kid is a good driver though. It takes big bucks to get into F1 unless you are taken on as a development driver by one of the big buck teams. Strolls teammate Perez is sponsored by a couple of Mexican telecom companies.  Nicholas Latifi is the son another Montreal billionaire, the owner of Sofina foods. His dad also owns a chunk of McLaren.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 23, 2020, 09:17:30 pm
Williams sold to Dorilton Capital. Will retain the name but the end of an era. A sad end to the last family owned F! team. 
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on August 29, 2020, 01:15:59 pm
Spa this weekend, the world's greatest road course.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 01, 2020, 10:02:54 pm
Italian Grand Prix from the historic Monza track is this weekend.    I bet Ferrari are happy not to have fans at the track this year given their ineptitude. 

Great track though that usually offers up some great racing. 



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Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 01, 2020, 10:07:37 pm
The first race where teams have to use the same engine mode for the whole weekend. No more party modes for qualifying and it will be interesting to see how it affects the grids. Renault looked quite strong last weekend and Monza is another high speed track.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 01, 2020, 11:52:44 pm
The first race where teams have to use the same engine mode for the whole weekend. No more party modes for qualifying and it will be interesting to see how it affects the grids. Renault looked quite strong last weekend and Monza is another high speed track.

Iím of the opinion that there should be A LOT less electronics, drive modes, etc in F1 cars.  Itís crazy.  I think they should get rid of tire sensors...  make them manage the race by driver feel.  Race engineers telling drivers when to do every little thing is getting ridiculous, imo.

Not to take away from Norrisí last 2 laps of this race, since every driver is coached like this probably, but this video shows how ridiculous it is now...

https://youtu.be/XgXo0509S28
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: MH on September 02, 2020, 08:40:22 am
Aww... Video unavailable
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 02, 2020, 09:07:51 am
Aww... Video unavailable
Hit the underlined Watch on YouTube.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 02, 2020, 09:19:52 am
Iím of the opinion that there should be A LOT less electronics, drive modes, etc in F1 cars.  Itís crazy.  I think they should get rid of tire sensors...  make them manage the race by driver feel.  Race engineers telling drivers when to do every little thing is getting ridiculous, imo.

Not to take away from Norrisí last 2 laps of this race, since every driver is coached like this probably, but this video shows how ridiculous it is now...

https://youtu.be/XgXo0509S28

Going to a single engine mode will probably get rid of a lot of that, no party modes or push to pass but letís face it, these are the most advance hybrid systems in existence.  As long as the tires they are using are so critical, I think they need tire monitoring. Wish they would go back to the days when tires went the whole race. You could still have a mandatory stop for a tire change and teams could adjust their strategy to get the best out of them. Maybe it isnít possible with the downforce these cars generate.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 02, 2020, 09:21:47 am
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Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 04, 2020, 11:44:01 pm
Norris has a pizza helmet for Monza.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: kimmy on September 05, 2020, 03:23:38 pm
Norris has a pizza helmet for Monza.

I know what all of those words mean, but I still can't parse that sentence.

 -k
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 05, 2020, 10:44:26 pm
I know what all of those words mean, but I still can't parse that sentence.

 -k

His helmet is painted up as a pepperoni pizza. He says pizza is his favourite thing about Italy

The went through his qualifying lap compared to his teammate Sainz and the tiny things that make so much difference The difference between the two was 0.13 seconds. That 0.13 seconds was the difference between third and sixth on the grid. The difference between pole and second was 0.069 seconds.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2020, 01:53:31 pm
His helmet is painted up as a pepperoni pizza. He says pizza is his favourite thing about Italy

Oh okay, now it all makes sense. First I was picturing something like the cheese wedges that Packers fans wear on their heads.  Then I was thinking maybe the Pizza Helmet was an honorary thing, kind of like the Yellow Jersey in bicycle racing.

The went through his qualifying lap compared to his teammate Sainz and the tiny things that make so much difference The difference between the two was 0.13 seconds. That 0.13 seconds was the difference between third and sixth on the grid. The difference between pole and second was 0.069 seconds.

I just did some quick math...  these cars can apparently go up to 340 km/h, and at that speed 0.13 seconds is a gap of 12 meters, which is about 2.5 car lengths.  So if they were racing next to each other it would look like a big difference.

 -k
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 06, 2020, 07:46:01 pm
That was a very entertaining race!   The underdogs came 1st, 2nd and 3rd in a topsey-Turkey race that had a bit of everything. 

Poor Ferrari...  they were dismal.

Great to see Canadian Lance Stroll on the podium in 3rd.  Unfortunately, he blew the re-start that occurred after the race was stopped by a big crash, otherwise he might have won it!
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 06, 2020, 09:34:12 pm
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. First I was picturing something like the cheese wedges that Packers fans wear on their heads.  Then I was thinking maybe the Pizza Helmet was an honorary thing, kind of like the Yellow Jersey in bicycle racing.

I just did some quick math...  these cars can apparently go up to 340 km/h, and at that speed 0.13 seconds is a gap of 12 meters, which is about 2.5 car lengths.  So if they were racing next to each other it would look like a big difference.

 -k

Norris is becoming  known for his different helmets. At the British Grand Prix it was the one designed by the six year old.

Remember, it is a road course, not a straight line or oval, The fastest qualifying speed was 264 KPH average and that 0.13 seconds is the difference over a distance of 5.8 km. The difference between pole and second was seven one hundreds of a second.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 06, 2020, 09:39:07 pm
That was a very entertaining race!   The underdogs came 1st, 2nd and 3rd in a topsey-Turkey race that had a bit of everything. 

Poor Ferrari...  they were dismal.

Great to see Canadian Lance Stroll on the podium in 3rd.  Unfortunately, he blew the re-start that occurred after the race was stopped by a big crash, otherwise he might have won it!

Happy something good happened for Gasly but McLaren were the big losers. By allowing cars the cars that hadn't stopped to change tires during the red flag, they really penalized those who had stopped during the previous yellow. The race should have been a McLaren one two with Gasly third.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 07, 2020, 01:19:09 pm
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Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 10, 2020, 03:29:04 pm
Perez is out next year at Racing Point (Aston Martin) while 4-time champ, Seb Vettel, is in.  Perez will land on his feet.  Haas maybe?  He brings a lot of Mexican sponsorship dollars, and Haas, being an American team, may like that. 

Whatís also going to be great is another historic marque being in F1 starting next year in the form of Aston Martin.  They had a very limited run decades ago, so they donít have much history with F1.   

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Aston_Martin_DBR4_Mallory_Park.JPG)

What a gorgeous race car from simpler times!  (Much less safe times too....)
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 10, 2020, 03:53:09 pm
That's interesting, I'm glad Vettel will still be in F1, I like Seb.  He has his moments but is a no BS kind of guy and a thinker. Haas or Williams for Perez would be my guess. The new owners of Williams might have different ideas about drivers. My guess is Russell would be safe because he is a Mercedes development driver and has done a good job in a terrible car. I also think he has another year on his contract.

Aston Martin didn't have much of a F1 history but the cars sure were pretty. So were the sports cars that did win at LeMans.

(https://img.hmn.com/fit-in/900x506/filters:upscale()/stories/2012/06/AstonMartinDBR1_1200.jpg)
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 10, 2020, 05:32:47 pm
Prognosticators are mentioning Alfa Romeo as a possibility for Perez. Will Kimi retire or will they replace him? I don't see an Italian team getting rid of Giovinazzi, the only Italian driver currently in F1.

Racing Point (Aston Martin) must be rolling in cash if they can afford to dump a driver who brings big sponsorship bucks for a driver who demands millions in salary. An interesting fact about Vettel, he is one of the few (maybe the only) high profile athlete who doesn't do endorsement deals.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 10, 2020, 06:05:55 pm
Prognosticators are mentioning Alfa Romeo as a possibility for Perez. Will Kimi retire or will they replace him? I don't see an Italian team getting rid of Giovinazzi, the only Italian driver currently in F1.

Kimi is likely to retire.  I think Haas would be a better fit for Perez, but Iím sure any F1 team will do!

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Racing Point (Aston Martin) must be rolling in cash if they can afford to dump a driver who brings big sponsorship bucks for a driver who demands millions in salary. An interesting fact about Vettel, he is one of the few (maybe the only) high profile athlete who doesn't do endorsement deals.

Stroll is a billionaire with billionaire backers.  He bought Aston Martin to get the marque into F1.  Aston Martin wasnít equipped to do anything like this until Stroll came along. 

I had no idea that Vettel didnít do endorsements.  (Other than team obligations to their sponsors probably, right?).  Iíve always liked Vettel as a driver. 
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 10, 2020, 09:50:14 pm
Kimi is likely to retire.  I think Haas would be a better fit for Perez, but Iím sure any F1 team will do!

Stroll is a billionaire with billionaire backers.  He bought Aston Martin to get the marque into F1.  Aston Martin wasnít equipped to do anything like this until Stroll came along. 

I had no idea that Vettel didnít do endorsements.  (Other than team obligations to their sponsors probably, right?).  Iíve always liked Vettel as a driver.

Apparently Stroll owns 17% of Aston Martin but that probably makes him the largest shareholder. I found out about Vettel not doing endorsements in an article about the world highest paid athletes. He and Hamilton were the only ones in the top 40 although Verstappen and Leclerc will probably be on the next one .
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: the_squid on September 13, 2020, 02:53:02 pm
Massive shunt by Stroll when his tyre blew!  *ouch*.  Lucky he walked away from that...   He was set for a podium too....  damn.

Very entertaining race again.  Great track.
Title: Re: Auto Racing
Post by: wilber on September 14, 2020, 12:47:25 pm
Crazy race, fantastic track. Awesome watching them go flat through that section between turns 6 and 9 with the G meter bouncing off of 5 during qualifying and well over 4 during the race. Hope they go back.

Stroll's shunt and the rolling restart mess were scary. Lucky no one was hurt.
I was really looking forward to the possibility of Max getting in amongst the Mercedes, but it wasn't to be.