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Beyond Politics => General Discussion => Topic started by: msj on March 19, 2017, 09:29:47 am
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Chuck Berry's passing is as good enough a time to have this kind of thread.
Some may remember my flippant attitude towards this kind of thing in a thread about Nancy Reagan on a previous site.
Death is a feature, not a bug.
It rids the world, sometimes not soon enough, of the old to allow for the new.
Berry is before my time, and, yes, I know he was foundational for rock and roll.
There are good stories coming out by Springsteen and Jagger and Richards.
I have enjoyed this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMddte6yD2w&sns=em
Surly he is the "greatest rock n roller" who ever lived...until the next one passes.
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Surly he is the "greatest rock n roller" who ever lived...until the next one passes.
Well sure, apart from My Ding-a-Ling.
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Two today:
Chris Cornell - front man for Sound Garden, Butt Hole Surfers, Audio Slave etc. 52 years young and apparent suicide.
Roger Ailes - Serial sexual harasser, forced out under the "humiliation" of a multi-million severance package from FOX news. 77 and further proof that the good die young and the bad linger on past expiry?
Good riddance to the latter and thank gawd for modern recordings of the former.
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I saw a Roger Ailes front page article, but nothing about him dying so I didn't read it. Ha, good riddance.
Sad about Chris Cornell, yeah. That really bummed me out. He was sexy and talented, I loved a lot of his music. Way too young.
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Two today:
Chris Cornell - front man for Sound Garden, Butt Hole Surfers, Audio Slave etc. 52 years young and apparent suicide.
Roger Ailes - Serial sexual harasser, forced out under the "humiliation" of a multi-million severance package from FOX news. 77 and further proof that the good die young and the bad linger on past expiry?
Good riddance to the latter and thank gawd for modern recordings of the former.
Agreed x2
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I was pretty stunned to hear about Chris Cornell this morning. I don't know much about him as a person, but I liked much of his music, whether with Soundgarden, and Audioslave, and as a solo performer.
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Roger Moore aka James Bond died this week. He was okay as Bond. Not that great of an actor but a nice guy.
Meanwhile, in BC, we have lost Grace McCarthy.
Gracie was one of the greats: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_McCarthy
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I somewhat like the Moore version of Bond. There was a corn-ball humor and slightly campy aspect that probably inspired the "Archer" animated series. It didn't take itself too seriously, and Moore fit the tone perfectly.
Daniel Craig is now my favorite Bond-- I think he's the most masculine and sexy of them. Pierce Brosnan was suave and dapper, but somehow lacked something that Craig has. I found Sean Connery to be just kind of boring, although I was young when I saw his bond films so maybe I just didn't "get" it.
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I never got into James Bond. Should I go back and start from the first film in the 60s?
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Adam West is dead at 88.
Long rest The Batman.
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Gregg Allman died of liver cancer a couple of weeks ago, aged 69 years.
The "Southern rock" genre was dead before I was even born, and I only knew of the Allman Brothers from a few hits like Ramblin' Man, and I guess also the scene from "Field of Dreams" where Kevin Costner is driving his VW bus down the road as "Jessica" plays. I started getting interested in the Allman Brothers while discovering other Southern rock acts like Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Outlaws, and Blackfoot. Gregg Allman had a remarkable voice, and also he just *looked* the part-- this tall lanky figure with a long mane of blond hair, he just *looked* like Southern rock personified.
Derek Trucks of the Tedeschi-Trucks Band knew him from a very young age, because Derek is the nephew of the Allman Brothers' drummer. Derek said this about him:
He was very sweet, but just his persona was intimidating. He was Gregg Allman. I think a lot of people had that feeling when they met him. The way he walked and talked and acted. He had whatever the "it" thing is. It was like meeting Willie Mays or something. It's like, "Holy ****, they exist!" Even when Dickey Betts was leading the band, Gregg was the focal point at all times. He just had that magnetism, and that **** voice. They don't hand those out often. He was the keeper of the mojo. It was just effortless for him, that part of it. He was just a bona fide **** badass. There's a lot of pretenders and a lot of people who think that those torches get passed, but there's not another Gregg. It feels like this fictional, amazing, Southern gothic epic. It's un-****-believable. From childhood on, at every turn, something major and traumatic and awful was happening.
These awful things included the death of the other Allman Brother, Duane, just as the band was taking off in the late 1960s. They remained "the Allman Brothers Band" for another 45 years, despite there being just one Allman left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnKFtJB0ALc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRDivUb5EeA
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Chester Bennington of Linkin Park has apparently commited suicide on what would be Chris Cornell's birthday (see above for his demise).
Ugh.
He tried so hard/to get so far/and in the end/ it doesn't even matter....
Video here: http://thereformedbroker.com/2017/07/20/rip-chester-bennington/
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Kenny Shields died today, too.
Streetheart was my first concert ever.
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Kenny Shields died today, too.
Streetheart was my first concert ever.
This makes me sad... I heard that he was very sick just after I posted some Streetheart songs in the music thread, and now just a few weeks later he's gone.
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This makes me sad... I heard that he was very sick just after I posted some Streetheart songs in the music thread, and now just a few weeks later he's gone.
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Way to go, kimmy.
"You killed Kenny!" :D
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Way to go, kimmy.
"You killed Kenny!" :D
:o it's all my fault! :'(
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Hugh Hefner has died at age 91.
Hefner and his Playboy publication played a significant cultural role in challenging puritanical views of sex in America ...and beyond. One could imagine that a society where Hefner never existed might have turned out quite differently from the one we live in.
On a personal note, Hefner and his publication are one of the reasons that adolescence was a very confusing time for me.
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Hefner was a god among men. Most every man's dream is to 1. get rich and 2. stare at **** all day & get **** by the most beautiful women in the world at a whim. Hugh achieved the former by doing the latter. He's the happiest man to ever live. RIP.
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I never saw the appeal of his tawdry book. To me, **** is more wholesome than trying to peddle hedonism as an admirable lifestyle. We were taught about how demeaning his publication was in Catholic school ! Patriarchy vs patriarchy.
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Playboy, Penthouse & Hustler were all part of my sex ed. My family didn't talk about sex, though my mom made an effort about two years after we'd covered the basics of baby-making in school.
But my best friend's family down the street were very different and where I found the three magazines, so if I had any real questions I asked her dad. I'd read something about oral sex in one of the magazines and was curious, so in front of a bunch of out-of-town family he had visiting that weekend, I asked. The conversation went like this:
14-year-old me: R, what is oral sex?
R: (looking uncomfortable, unusual for him) Umm ... you know what sex is?
Me: Yes
R: You know what oral is?
Me: Yes
R: Well, put the two together ..
Me: (thinking hard) - Talking about sex?
R: No. Let's talk about this later, ok?
Me: (wondering about all the snickering) Ok.
Without those magazines, not to mention my best friend's family, I don't know if I would have ever been as sexually experimental as I was.
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Without those magazines, not to mention my best friend's family, I don't know if I would have ever been as sexually experimental as I was.
Cryptic comment, but for the record I don't believe reading things changes your sexual drive, or your sexuality.
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Hefner was a god among men. Most every man's dream is to 1. get rich and 2. stare at **** all day & get **** by the most beautiful women in the world at a whim. Hugh achieved the former by doing the latter. He's the happiest man to ever live. RIP.
It's hard to imagine any man in history who had a better life, with fame, fortune, family and happiness all rolled together. Other men were richer, but when I look at the likes of Warren Buffet or others like him, who, even after they became filthy rich, still spent all day at the office in suits in long board meetings and going over reports and compare them to Hefner who decide '**** this' and spent his time in his silk pajamas running his business out of his mansion, surrounded by bunnies well. I side with Hugh! Not only did he take pictures of beautiful women he hired lots of them. Which meant even when he was dealing with editors, writers, photographers, and managers a lot of them were former playmates. He surrounded himself with celebrities, partied every night, and had his ex-wife and kids living in a house next door so he could see them often.
Emperors might have had more power but which of them had a better life?
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I never saw the appeal of his tawdry book. To me, **** is more wholesome than trying to peddle hedonism as an admirable lifestyle. We were taught about how demeaning his publication was in Catholic school ! Patriarchy vs patriarchy.
He managed to get sex out of the closet and make it mainstream at a time when you couldn't say the word 'pregnant' on TV. He was an active political campaigner for abortion rights, womens rights and gay rights, and against racism. His clubs gave starts to some great Black entertainers who couldn't get work in White clubs. I think it's not wrong to say everything from sex-education in classrooms to abortion rights to womens liberation were greatly boosted by him and his magazine and TV shows.
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Begrudgingly, I guess there's something to all of that. I still can't stomach the pretension of the whole brand though.
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Begrudgingly, I guess there's something to all of that. I still can't stomach the pretension of the whole brand though.
It had its ups and its downs, its good points and bad points. The Playboy interviews routinely ran over 7,000-8,000 words, which allowed them a depth few other mediums engaged in on important topics with people like Martin Luther King, Betty Davis and Steve Jobs. And it had some really great stories from towering figures in literature.
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Cryptic comment, but for the record I don't believe reading things changes your sexual drive, or your sexuality.
In that those experiences led me to the conclusion that sex wasn't a shameful act to be hidden in silence and privacy, it did. From that basis I could explore beyond missionary position.
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In that those experiences led me to the conclusion that sex wasn't a shameful act to be hidden in silence and privacy, it did. From that basis I could explore beyond missionary position.
I guess my experience is similar to yours but the ideas I took away from the experience totally different.
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On a personal note, Hefner and his publication are one of the reasons that adolescence was a very confusing time for me.
When I was about 11 or 12, The Hudson's Bay in a local mall kept all the magazines in a secluded part of the store and the dirty magazines were kept with the rest. Whenever my parents wanted to go to that mall I'd get so excited and jump at the chance and then make an excuse to part ways and go look at the magazines.
I so hear you on this one....
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I hesitate to ask but... I thought women weren't generally taken to visual erotica ? Is that just a myth ?
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I hesitate to ask but... I thought women weren't generally taken to visual erotica ? Is that just a myth ?
For me, it can be ok sometimes, but most.of the time its just too distracting and unbelievable. I am most receptive to gentler stuff, where there is seduction leading ro sex, even rough sex, as opposed to the 'rip the clothes off and go at it' type. Especially if two women are involved. Threesomes are ok, but more than that starts getting weird for me.
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I hesitate to ask but... I thought women weren't generally taken to visual erotica ? Is that just a myth ?
I was reading stats on this and apparently 30% of women watch **** on a regular basis, vs. around 80% of men (if you believe that, i don't think I've ever met any in the 20% category so I think it's probably higher).
But based on the official stats, I guess the generalization is true that women aren't as interested as men in visual erotica.
I don't like to label myself when it comes to sexuality, but I've always been a little 'different' so I'm sure that had some bearing in my taste for the magazines...
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I was reading stats on this and apparently 30% of women watch **** on a regular basis, vs. around 80% of men (if you believe that, i don't think I've ever met any in the 20% category so I think it's probably higher).
But based on the official stats, I guess the generalization is true that women aren't as interested as men in visual erotica.
I don't like to label myself when it comes to sexuality, but I've always been a little 'different' so I'm sure that had some bearing in my taste for the magazines...
Ok. 20% lie about it, the joke goes. And... maybe over to sex culture...
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I hesitate to ask but... I thought women weren't generally taken to visual erotica ? Is that just a myth ?
There was a Playgirl at one point, and another one, I forget the name, very glossy and 'artistic' aimed at women, put out by Penthouse. They didn't last, and I think I remember reading that most of their readership was actually gay men.
One of the reasons women didn't/don't show as much enthusiasm for video erotica is that most of it is/was ****. Badly filmed, with people who couldn't act, no real dialogue or script, and mostly focusing on closeups of body parts. Also, due to the social mores which STILL exist today, the sex always had to be 100% consensual. Well, you might say, of course it did! But think about it. The best you can do with that is those ridiculous videos where a postman comes to the door and is greeted by some hotty, and they flirt for ten seconds, then start tearing each other's clothes off. No seduction, because you can't have seduction without persuasion, and you can't have that without some resistance, and resistance of any kind was/is not acceptable. I don't even remember seeing one of those 'movies' where there was any hesitation on the part of either partner. So no really 'erotic' storylines and no character development. Just bodies going at it. Not much of a turn-on once you're out of your teens.
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I never saw the appeal of his tawdry book. To me, **** is more wholesome than trying to peddle hedonism as an admirable lifestyle. We were taught about how demeaning his publication was in Catholic school ! Patriarchy vs patriarchy.
I think some of the moralists who complain about how demeaning pornography is to women are the same types who'd prefer a Handmaid's Tale type society. The Rick Santorums of the world, the ones who believe contraception is the worst thing that ever happened to women.
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I hesitate to ask but... I thought women weren't generally taken to visual erotica ? Is that just a myth ?
uh... if somebody has given you the impression that women aren't attracted to attractive people, you've been terribly mislead.
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uh... if somebody has given you the impression that women aren't attracted to attractive people, you've been terribly mislead.
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No - visual erotica as pointed out above. Magazines, videos and so on.
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I think some of the moralists who complain about how demeaning pornography is to women are the same types who'd prefer a Handmaid's Tale type society. The Rick Santorums of the world, the ones who believe contraception is the worst thing that ever happened to women.
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There was, in the 80s, more of a feminist moralizing tone against pornography. I think it's not the same today. Taking it over to a better thread now...
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Tom Petty :'(
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Oh no, he was only 66! RIP.
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Scratch that - he's not actually dead.
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Death back on now. :(
My god, this was by far the worst passing announcement I ever saw with all the back and forth.
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Always loved "American Girl"
RIP
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Death back on now. :(
My god, this was by far the worst passing announcement I ever saw with all the back and forth.
He was brain dead and taken off life support. There was never any question that he was going to die. People announced his death prematurely, but once he was taken off life support it was only a matter of time.
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Roy Halliday - celebrity sporting figure of note - died in a plane crash. Toronto people are broken up on this one. He was said to be a 'nice guy'.
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Gord Downie... we all knew it was coming.
John Dunsworth ... I never watched the Trailer Park Boys.
Roy Halladay... I didn't watch baseball either. But listening to the news report this morning, they talked a lot about his charitable work in Toronto, his enthusiasm for trying to boost the spirits of sick kids... he bought a private suite in the Skydome and every game sick kids got to watch from the private suite. He contributed to fundraising for medical research. Our sports "heroes" often let us down when they're off the field of play, but it sounds like Halladay was indeed one of "the good guys".
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David Cassidy, RIP, dead at 67.
Are heartthrobs still a thing ? Kimmy ?
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"Are heartthrobs still a thing, kimmy?"
Haha. Is kimmy the heartthrob expert or something? This is hilarious to me.
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That's definitely profiling of some kind.
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"Are heartthrobs still a thing, kimmy?"
Haha. Is kimmy the heartthrob expert or something? This is hilarious to me.
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I am speechless. I simply have no idea how to respond to that.
Malcolm Young from AC/DC died earlier this week as well. I gather he's been suffering from dementia for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihu9UtNjmXM
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Ok. I should have asked Rue ??
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Delores O'Riordan, the singer from The Cranberries, has died. She was just 46. Not much has been released yet. She struggled with bipolar disorder, and when someone so young dies on tends to suspect things like drugs or self-harm.
Delores O'Riordan is known as the distinctive voice behind 1990s hits like "Dreams", "Linger", and of course "Zombie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
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This one made me sad. That song Linger... All of this seems so pervasively Irish.
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I believe she had health issues recently (2014 maybe?) and possibly underwent surgery. If I'm throwing a guess out there, I'm thinking she got hooked on painkillers (opiods most likely)--especially with bipolar disorder. She probably ended up dying with some cocktail of prescription narcotics in her system. It's sad if true. Hell at 46 it's sad if not true too.
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So Tom Petty died of an accidental overdose. One of that legion of middle aged folks with painful ailments for which medicine apparently has little resolution other than more and more powerful drugs.
http://ottawacitizen.com/entertainment/celebrity/family-tom-petty-died-of-accidental-drug-overdose/wcm/934bab7f-96f8-4a80-8f44-613281c5753a
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I don't believe in celebrities.I find people get caught up in hero worshipping idiots for the wrong reasons.
That said I did note Red Fisher the Montreal Canadiens reporter from the Montreal Star then Gazette died yesterday. He wrote over 70 years. He was the sports writer if you werea Habs fan like I was growing up in Montreal. Him I take note of. They don't make them like that anymore. Growing up in Quebec we had to play by play announcers Rene Lecavaliers (French) and Danny Gallivan (English) and no one can touch them. Then we had as writers Jacques Beauchamps (French) and Red Fisher, English. No one could touch them.
I met Red Fisher. Polite. Serious. There was nothing he did not know about the Habs and hockey. Don Cherry is the final one from that generation.
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I don't believe in celebrities.I find people get caught up in hero worshipping idiots for the wrong reasons.
That said I did note Red Fisher the Montreal Canadiens reporter from the Montreal Star then Gazette died yesterday. He wrote over 70 years. He was the sports writer if you werea Habs fan like I was growing up in Montreal. Him I take note of. They don't make them like that anymore. Growing up in Quebec we had to play by play announcers Rene Lecavaliers (French) and Danny Gallivan (English) and no one can touch them. Then we had as writers Jacques Beauchamps (French) and Red Fisher, English. No one could touch them.
I met Red Fisher. Polite. Serious. There was nothing he did not know about the Habs and hockey. Don Cherry is the final one from that generation.
So you'd prefer to listen to a play by play of a hockey game than some good music. Fine. To each their own.
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No I did not say that. I like all kinds of music. I just don't call the musicians celebrities. I myself call them artists. I don't hero worship them like adoring fans do. You again missed the point.
I did grew up at a stage of development 9-14 idolizing sports athletes but that passed. Did I find people cool? Sure I liked MLK, RFK, certain bands, but not to hero worship. The fact I don't idolize people as celebrities does not mean I do not appreciate gifted artists or doctors, etc. I just don't turn them into Gods on a higher platform.
I personally think we do to much of that **** in society and its not healthy. Like Meaghan Markle. Why the hell should I consider her a celebrity? Or Harry for that matter? If someone else wants to, its their business. I find idols to worship a waste of energy. I believe there are a lot of plain boring non celebrity people out there I know who to me are just as important in their own way.
I do appreciate the point of the thread. Some famous people bring back amazing memories. I like that people have been able to leave good memories for others and read about that. Its just for me, I don't call them celebrities.
I actually am good friends with some actors who are as humble as it gets and detest and shun celebrity crap. I respect them for that down to earth stuff. I just wish we remembered people not as celebrities but as good people. Its just a discussion point. When a guy like BB King died, I was like too bad man, I really liked his music but I would not put him on a fawning pedestal. How do I explain it-you really think all this fawning over the kardashians or kanye west or Bruce Jenner is well placed? I am not trying to be a snot, I just think its b.s.
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No I did not say that. I like all kinds of music. I just don't call the musicians celebrities. I myself call them artists. I don't hero worship them like adoring fans do. You again missed the point.
I did grew up at a stage of development 9-14 idolizing sports athletes but that passed. Did I find people cool? Sure I liked MLK, RFK, certain bands, but not to hero worship. The fact I don't idolize people as celebrities does not mean I do not appreciate gifted artists or doctors, etc. I just don't turn them into Gods on a higher platform.
I personally think we do to much of that **** in society and its not healthy. Like Meaghan Markle. Why the hell should I consider her a celebrity? Or Harry for that matter? If someone else wants to, its their business. I find idols to worship a waste of energy. I believe there are a lot of plain boring non celebrity people out there I know who to me are just as important in their own way.
I do appreciate the point of the thread. Some famous people bring back amazing memories. I like that people have been able to leave good memories for others and read about that. Its just for me, I don't call them celebrities.
I actually am good friends with some actors who are as humble as it gets and detest and shun celebrity crap. I respect them for that down to earth stuff. I just wish we remembered people not as celebrities but as good people. Its just a discussion point. When a guy like BB King died, I was like too bad man, I really liked his music but I would not put him on a fawning pedestal. How do I explain it-you really think all this fawning over the kardashians or kanye west or Bruce Jenner is well placed? I am not trying to be a snot, I just think its b.s.
Yep we all know that "celebrity" is a social construct. I wouldn't waste a lot of time navel gazing over it.
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Dan Gurney also died this week. One of the great all rounders who also built and raced his own cars. Survived auto racing's deadliest era to die of old age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Gurney
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Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died at 91.
They are still assembling his casket.
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Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died at 91.
They are still assembling his casket.
In heaven* there is a lady running and screaming “start the car! start the car,” to whisk him away....
*In my preferred version they would be in hell which is a fun place, and, according to Gaiman/Pratchet’s “Good Omens” has the fun people, but lets give a nod to standard X-ian doctrine.
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In heaven* there is a lady running and screaming “start the car! start the car,” to whisk him away....
:D That commercial was an instant classic, IMO.
About 46% of the stuff in my apartment is Ikea... another 22% is Jysk (which is basically Finnish off-brand Ikea.) I will spend some time later sitting in my armchair Poang ensemble and hoist an akvavit to Ingvar.
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They are still assembling his casket.
I wonder what they'll call it.
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Actor Harry Anderson, known for playing Judge Harry Stone on the NBC sitcom "Night Court," was found dead in his home in Asheville, North Carolina, on Monday, police say. He was 65 years old, according to IMDB.
I used to watch Night Court. :'(
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Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad has died at 91.
They are still assembling his casket.
I have a bag full of leftover nuts, bolts, washers, etc., from a few Ikea pieces if they would be of help. I think there is one of those little wrenches in there as well.
He did well. May he RIP.
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Verne Troyer died today. He was just 49 years old. He was best known as "Mini-Me" from the Austin Powers movies. He was also immensely popular on social media, where his self-deprecating humor used his tiny stature to great comic effect. One post featured him showing of his "new Tesla" (a toddler-sized go-cart model), terrorized by dogs taller than he is, hanging out with NBA players... a picture of Troyer measured against a stack of donuts found him to be 27 donuts tall. He seemed to take his tiny stature in stride.
But that wasn't the case. He struggled with depression. A year ago he was hospitalized with alcohol poisoning. He almost drank himself to death. No cause of death has been released yet, but the statement from his family makes one suspect that his death was self-inflicted. Even though he made people laugh throughout his career, he was ultimately very isolated.
This one feels worse than most, because this is a person who was struggling and who never truly got to live a full life in spite of the laughter he brought to others.
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Verne Troyer died today. ... He struggled with depression.
That seems common with comedians, I wonder if anyone ever did a study to see if there is a correlation. Does the struggle to find comedic content cause depression, or is comedy a coping strategy?
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That seems common with comedians, I wonder if anyone ever did a study to see if there is a correlation. Does the struggle to find comedic content cause depression, or is comedy a coping strategy?
I would think the 2nd. They often hide insecurities me thinks. Does he really qualify as a comedian though? Or a midget in a couple of movies?
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That seems common with comedians, I wonder if anyone ever did a study to see if there is a correlation.
David Letterman said every comic he knew was loved too much or not enough as a kid.
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Tom Wolfe.
A celebrity, yes, but an artist and cultural critic foremost. He was one of my heroes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wolfe
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Margot Kidder, also.
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She was the best thing in Superman, and ahead of her time for a strong female lead. Her bipolar disorder hurt her career, I think, and she didn't do much else after.
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Margot Kidder, also.
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It's funny, because I had just given an old Playboy magazine to a friend for his birthday - the March 1975 issue (which is his birth month and year) - and Margot Kidder was the featured bunny.
She was a troubled soul.
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Also those old Playboys are kind of hilarious.
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Fashion designer Kate Spade hanged herself Tuesday.
From the outside she seems like somebody who had everything in the world. But her suicide was apparently not a big shock to people who knew her, as she has struggled with anxiety and depression.
Getting your first Kate Spade handbag was, I gather, a rite of passage for some women. Not me or anybody I know personally... but people like Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump and many others have been sharing stories about their first Kate Spade handbag or to urge people to get medical help if they are feeling suicidal. TV star David Spade-- her brother-in-law-- also posted some touching comments about her.
These handbags were symbols that you've arrived-- Chelsea Clinton's was a gift from her grandma when she went to college. For others it was their first luxury purchase after landing their first "real" job. Or a graduation present, or a 20th birthday present, that sort of thing. More women talking about how much their first Kate Spade handbag meant to them:
https://www.cnn.com/style/article/women-kate-spade-bag-stories-trnd/index.html
https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/kate-spade-tributes-on-twitter-remember-her-designer-bags.html
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Yes, working in retail now gave me a different perspective on this. Many women had an appreciation for the [popular] art of this handbag design.
Very sad to lose someone so young.
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Yes, working in retail now gave me a different perspective on this. Many women had an appreciation for the [popular] art of this handbag design.
Very sad to lose someone so young.
I read Ms. Spade was 55 years old... that ain't so young, you geezer you!
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I read Ms. Spade was 55 years old... that ain't so young, you geezer you!
Too young to die my friend. She seems like an American success story from a bygone era. Sad.
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Fashion designer Kate Spade hanged herself Tuesday.
From the outside she seems like somebody who had everything in the world. But her suicide was apparently not a big shock to people who knew her, as she has struggled with anxiety and depression.
Getting your first Kate Spade handbag was, I gather, a rite of passage for some women. Not me or anybody I know personally... but people like Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump and many others have been sharing stories about their first Kate Spade handbag or to urge people to get medical help if they are feeling suicidal. TV star David Spade-- her brother-in-law-- also posted some touching comments about her.
These handbags were symbols that you've arrived-- Chelsea Clinton's was a gift from her grandma when she went to college. For others it was their first luxury purchase after landing their first "real" job. Or a graduation present, or a 20th birthday present, that sort of thing. More women talking about how much their first Kate Spade handbag meant to them:
https://www.cnn.com/style/article/women-kate-spade-bag-stories-trnd/index.html
https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/kate-spade-tributes-on-twitter-remember-her-designer-bags.html
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Ivanka Trump urging people to get help as her father cuts hundreds of millions of dollars in support is disgusting as ****.
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Ivanka Trump urging people to get help as her father cuts hundreds of millions of dollars in support is disgusting as ****.
Yes... she's an Instagram activist at best. Like her step-mom's alleged stance against cyber-bullying, the concern is just for show.
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David Ogden Stiers passed away a few months ago. He was of course best known as Charles Emerson Winchester III on M*A*S*H. I was not old enough to remember M*A*S*H during its original run, but when I was young our local TV station used to play an episode of M*A*S*H every night after the evening news. Winchester was brought in to replace Frank Burns. Burns had no redeeming qualities at all. Winchester, on the other hand, while being a pompous snob and frequent foil to Hawkeye and Honeycutt, was a more rounded character who had many admirable qualities. While his love of classical music was at first glance part of his snob persona, I thought his determination to cling to high culture in spite of the circumstances was quite noble-- he refused to let the war take away the things that separate humans from animals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGPoXyEEtEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtaKMHZGv1U
Aside from M*A*S*H, Stiers also did a ton of voice acting work. This video shows some of the many characters he voiced in animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECasv5uLCM
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David Ogden Stiers passed away a few months ago. He was of course best known as Charles Emerson Winchester III on M*A*S*H. I was not old enough to remember M*A*S*H during its original run, but when I was young our local TV station used to play an episode of M*A*S*H every night after the evening news. Winchester was brought in to replace Frank Burns. Burns had no redeeming qualities at all. Winchester, on the other hand, while being a pompous snob and frequent foil to Hawkeye and Honeycutt, was a more rounded character who had many admirable qualities. While his love of classical music was at first glance part of his snob persona, I thought his determination to cling to high culture in spite of the circumstances was quite noble-- he refused to let the war take away the things that separate humans from animals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGPoXyEEtEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtaKMHZGv1U
Aside from M*A*S*H, Stiers also did a ton of voice acting work. This video shows some of the many characters he voiced in animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECasv5uLCM
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He was a more interesting character than Burns. You must be way too young to remember the movie with Donald Sutherland as Hawkeye, Elliot Gould as Trapper, Robert Duval as Burns and Sally Kellerman as Hot Lips.
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http://www.openculture.com/2018/08/aretha-franklin-turned-otis-reddings-respect-civil-rights-feminist-anthem.html
A little bit about 'Respect'. Aretha's impact seems to me to be misunderstood and I am too young to have been there when she was really blazing the trail. Certainly the handful of songs she has put into our conscious are amazingly performed, and her persona is iconoclastic but I don't feel I know her.
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He was a more interesting character than Burns. You must be way too young to remember the movie with Donald Sutherland as Hawkeye, Elliot Gould as Trapper, Robert Duval as Burns and Sally Kellerman as Hot Lips.
The thing about movies is you can watch them years later. So even if you were born in the 1990s, you wouldn't necessarily be too young to remember a film from the 1970s.
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https://twitter.com/Beschizza/status/1033519881268940806
John McCain. Click on the tweet and watch the embarrassing video.
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I wonder if Trump's "bone spurs" are bothering him today.
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Stan Lee passed away today, age 95. Excelsior, old friend.
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George Bush, pere, dead
(https://coverjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/1298467953.jpg)
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I'm not sure that "celebrity" is exactly the right word...
I am too young to remember much about the G.H.W. Bush presidency... most of what I know about him is shaped by the lens of history. I think history remembers him pretty well, especially with his son lowering the bar and Dolt 45 setting the bar so low that they'll need a backhoe excavator to find it. I think Bush the former's handling of the Iraq invasion of Kuwait set an example for countries to follow. He said that he did not go to Baghdad or remove Saddam from power because if you went to Baghdad there was no way out. Bush the latter proved Bush the former was correct about that.
I also remember reading the theory that people remember G.H.W being more likeable than he actually was because of Dana Carvey. Dana Carvey's SNL impression of Bush was a kindly old grandfatherly type who people somehow just liked, while the real GHWB wasn't nearly so affable.
I also recall George HW Bush's guest appearance on The Simpsons, and his backing vocals on this song by Ministry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqvLToWH7k
"What we are looking at is Good and Evil, Right and Wrong."
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I'm not sure that "celebrity" is exactly the right word...
I am too young to remember much about the G.H.W. Bush presidency... most of what I know about him is shaped by the lens of history. I think history remembers him pretty well, especially with his son lowering the bar and Dolt 45 setting the bar so low that they'll need a backhoe excavator to find it. I think Bush the former's handling of the Iraq invasion of Kuwait set an example for countries to follow. He said that he did not go to Baghdad or remove Saddam from power because if you went to Baghdad there was no way out. Bush the latter proved Bush the former was correct about that.
I also remember reading the theory that people remember G.H.W being more likeable than he actually was because of Dana Carvey. Dana Carvey's SNL impression of Bush was a kindly old grandfatherly type who people somehow just liked, while the real GHWB wasn't nearly so affable.
I also recall George HW Bush's guest appearance on The Simpsons, and his backing vocals on this song by Ministry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqvLToWH7k
"What we are looking at is Good and Evil, Right and Wrong."
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I actually think Bush senior should have chased Saddam all the way to Baghdad when he had him on the run. Probably would have saved a lot of Iraqi citizens lives who did die at the hands of the dictator. When Bush junior tried, he had the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney advising him, and we saw what a disaster that became. Trying to justify it by blaming Iraq for 9-11 when the terrorists were largely Saudis caused a lot of head scratching. It's a tricky environment and just racing up the highway to the Capital wasn't the best strategy.Some of us got to see it up close and personal. In any case, I guess he can skydive all he wants from now on.
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I actually think Bush senior should have chased Saddam all the way to Baghdad when he had him on the run. Probably would have saved a lot of Iraqi citizens lives who did die at the hands of the dictator. When Bush junior tried, he had the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney advising him, and we saw what a disaster that became.
Cheney was Bush Sr.'s Secretary of Defense. Paul Wolfowitz was Undersecretary of Defense under Cheney for Bush Sr. Rumsfeld, Cheney, & Bush Sr. were old buddies who served together under Ford & Nixon.
Bush Sr was a holdover from the Reagan years, as his VP. But everything changed with the end of the Cold War in the early 90's, a "new world order" as Bush Sr. famously called it. Then you had those mentioned above who served under Bush Sr. formulating a brand new kind of (neo) conservative foreign policy behind the scenes during the 90's Clinton years. A new more aggressive US foreign policy, spreading liberalism through regime change & nation-building, with a now-unmatched global military empire free from Soviet interference. During the Gulf War, US conservatives weren't as keen on nation-building, & had a bad experience with insurgents in Afghanistan.
Bush Sr. seemed like a bit of a limp noodle, a bit like his son Jeb. Barbara wore the pants in that family. He was more of a placeholder between Reagan & his son, who both had much more impact.
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Bush was the last of the WW2 era presidents. All of them dealt with WW2 and the new world order of the US. Then we had a couple of Vietnam Era guys. And Obama - just a postcard from the past - and now 45 tearing down and rebuilding... something.
http://www.openculture.com/2018/12/thoughtful-note-george-h-w-bush-left-bill-clintons-desk-leaving-white-house-1993.html
George HW Bush's note to Bill Clinton. Whether or not you agree with these people (as they are monsters in some aspect of their existence, in their control over the lives and deaths of people by the millions) this note explains the basis for the system.
http://www.openculture.com/2018/12/thoughtful-note-george-h-w-bush-left-bill-clintons-desk-leaving-white-house-1993.html
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Ray Sawyer of Dr. Hook gone at 81
They had quite few hits and Sawyer was one of the better lead singers in his day. Not one of their main stream hits but one of their quirkier tunes and one of my favourites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dn2MrEACLU
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Ray Sawyer of Dr. Hook gone at 81
They had quite few hits and Sawyer was one of the better lead singers in his day. Not one of their main stream hits but one of their quirkier tunes and one of my favourites.
For some reason I thought Dr Hook was the house band from the Muppets Show. I always pictured "On the cover Of the Rolling Stone" being sung by the green guy with the gold tooth.
(https://i.imgur.com/HRefYpw.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUjcjUF-urU
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For some reason I thought Dr Hook was the house band from the Muppets Show. I always pictured "On the cover Of the Rolling Stone" being sung by the green guy with the gold tooth.
(https://i.imgur.com/HRefYpw.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUjcjUF-urU
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There is a definite similarity.
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For some reason I thought Dr Hook was the house band from the Muppets Show. I always pictured "On the cover Of the Rolling Stone" being sung by the green guy with the gold tooth.
(https://i.imgur.com/HRefYpw.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUjcjUF-urU
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There is a certain similarity.
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Were they seen as a "novelty act"? The songs I've heard seem to be not-very-serious.
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Were they seen as a "novelty act"? The songs I've heard seem to be not-very-serious.
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In a way I guess. I don't think they were trying to make a statement, just have fun and entertain people. In that respect they were a success.
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Is it me or did we not lose too many celebs in 2018 ? I can only think of one right now, Bourdain.
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I was sad to hear Bob Dorough died. He helped me understand conjunctions.
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Is it me or did we not lose too many celebs in 2018 ? I can only think of one right now, Bourdain.
Yeah, there was just the one... ::)
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Is it me or did we not lose too many celebs in 2018 ? I can only think of one right now, Bourdain.
Aretha Franklin? Stephen Hawking? Burt Reynolds? Dolores O'Riordan? Stan Lee? David Ogden Stiers? Margot Kidder?
Looking over the list I saw some other names I didn't know had passed away this year. Kofi Annan, Bible-thumper Billy Graham, writer Tom Wolfe, writer Ursula K LeGuin, tv producer Stephen Bochco, director Milos Forman, Winnie Mandela, Ingmar from Ikea, Harry Anderson from "Night Court", pro wrestlers Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart and "The Dynamite Kid", Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, Penny Marshall (director, and "Laverne" from "Laverne and Shirley".)
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Yeah, there was just the one... ::)
I said I could only THINK of one. What's your problem dough-head ?
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Aretha Franklin? Stephen Hawking? Burt Reynolds? Dolores O'Riordan? Stan Lee? David Ogden Stiers? Margot Kidder?
Looking over the list I saw some other names I didn't know had passed away this year. Kofi Annan, Bible-thumper Billy Graham, writer Tom Wolfe, writer Ursula K LeGuin, tv producer Stephen Bochco, director Milos Forman, Winnie Mandela, Ingmar from Ikea, Harry Anderson from "Night Court", pro wrestlers Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart and "The Dynamite Kid", Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, Penny Marshall (director, and "Laverne" from "Laverne and Shirley".)
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Ok - I missed the first two, who were giants. The next 5 were from almost-legendary status to well-almost-maybe.
From the long list Milos Forman was a big one, and Paul Allen, Penny Marshall, Billy Graham.
Still, not like the year of Bowie.
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How is Keith Richards still alive?
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How is Keith Richards still alive?
He has daily transfusions an undocumented pacemaker and daily CT scans also. Spends 30 minutes a day outside his pherma-bubble.
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How is Keith Richards still alive?
Churchill syndrome. A dozen cigars, a few whiskies, a bottle and a half of champagne and a couple of brandies a day for a good life.
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https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/peter-tork-the-monkees-dies-dead-1203144914/
Peter Tork. 77. Weird legacy but godspeed.
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Karl Lagerfeld, fashion icon, also passed away this week. He was hilariously recognizable, and was a key figure at Chanel for decades. He also had his own label. I was never interested in high fashion, but I do like the Lagerfeld cologne.
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Luke Perry, actor known as a teen idol on Beverly Hills 90210, and more recently parent of teen idol on Riverdale, died from a stroke last week, just 52 years old.
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I'm not sure that Rachel Held Evans is exactly a "celebrity", but she was a popular Christian author. She died today, just 37 years old, after a severe allergic reaction to antibiotics.
I don't spend much time reading religious writers and thinkers, but Evans was one that I did read once in a while. She was an evangelical, but also a progressive, which makes her a pretty rare blend, and an interesting read in a landscape where Christianity (especially evangelical Christianity) is mostly represented by conservative and male voices.
This blog post is typical of how she framed progressive ideas in a Christian context:
https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/me-too-john-piper
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I'm not sure that Rachel Held Evans is exactly a "celebrity", but she was a popular Christian author. She died today, just 37 years old, after a severe allergic reaction to antibiotics.
I don't spend much time reading religious writers and thinkers, but Evans was one that I did read once in a while. She was an evangelical, but also a progressive, which makes her a pretty rare blend, and an interesting read in a landscape where Christianity (especially evangelical Christianity) is mostly represented by conservative and male voices.
This blog post is typical of how she framed progressive ideas in a Christian context:
https://rachelheldevans.com/blog/me-too-john-piper
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Sad when anyone dies at 37. However, calling her a celebrity is a bit of a stretch.
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Tim Conway gone today. His Carol Burnett Show skits were the funniest things I have seen on TV.
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Tim Conway gone today. His Carol Burnett Show skits were the funniest things I have seen on TV.
??? Well. It's sad he's gone but... really ?
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Pinus:
How is Keith Richards still alive?
Churchill syndrome. A dozen cigars, a few whiskies, a bottle and a half of champagne and a couple of brandies a day for a good life.
I heard it was blood transfusions.
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??? Well. It's sad he's gone but... really ?
He was definitely up there with the funniest. Much of it was ad lib. He would stick to the script during rehearsals then go rogue during the shooting. Just waiting for him to make Harvey Korman lose it was worth watching on its own.
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Goodbye Doris Day
https://youtu.be/Im4-3GLP-Xw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIvXHYt5rtc&t=43s
And Peggy Lipton our fave hippy cop.
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He was definitely up there with the funniest. Much of it was ad lib. He would stick to the script during rehearsals then go rogue during the shooting. Just waiting for him to make Harvey Korman lose it was worth watching on its own.
Tim Conway was (IMHO) the greatest comedian ever.
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Internet Cat Dead
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/51F3/production/_106997902_gettyimages-611696954.jpg)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48308638?ns_source=facebook&ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_mchannel=social&fbclid=IwAR2bJJFVy1Jk5FI-yL1AMCyD2TiDsSMMK_Xb0zkhkOnc9neNo9j9teFm85g&fbclid=IwAR37j78pm6fw9GWAN4zITxN_Qpd47CwBr-v6-1aaX2PXWvVWNXNAl2FSlX8&fbclid=IwAR2swyzA4L2TqU9JIWjhFaW13GtAFV1JWHmc8Pfntk7m5dRK0GRTjiDnpoU&fbclid=IwAR1njKGGvvj6eb_3I5hy_XqpETMW5TV49b0E4Urg0XYkZAZYaDANvI9viLU&fbclid=IwAR2fgmOS2ge9ptTIKWwkwJivUlBUapUsj7SFbE04CpKUnyj9ksbETcA1KX0&fbclid=IwAR269pQBjBPAErAeVdwkwxmaPERivYAd_h-DAAGZznrWJolbUxm5pkIq5ic&fbclid=IwAR3KNtCKObAQfeh80PVb53N9R4EgAJIFFGI6j8ZxXasLocr8uDoeRsMikiA&fbclid=IwAR2afCltXuK3VnM_59ZRj2sLLY4uQWakAFnOUldpX-9iX78Lgb_PjyfroHY
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Is it wrong that the death of Grumpy touches me more than the death of Tim Conway or Doris Day? I feel badly about this.
I think "Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever", featuring Aubrey Plaza as the voice of Grumpy, is an underappreciated classic in the Internet Meme Christmas Movie genre. And I think Ms Plaza is obviously the perfect choice to voice Grumpy; she's practically Grumpy Cat in human form. Such a good movie. I almost cried.
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Is it wrong that the death of Grumpy touches me more than the death of Tim Conway or Doris Day? I feel badly about this.
I think "Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever", featuring Aubrey Plaza as the voice of Grumpy, is an underappreciated classic in the Internet Meme Christmas Movie genre. And I think Ms Plaza is obviously the perfect choice to voice Grumpy; she's practically Grumpy Cat in human form. Such a good movie. I almost cried.
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Sometimes people take deaths of their respective family pet harder than an actual family member. Pets are very therapeutic to humans.
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That cat had something .... will be missed.
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Maybe not a celebrity for many but a childhood hero of mine died yesterday. Niki Lauda had been sick for some time.
One of the greatest drivers ever, Lauda and his 1976 championship dual with James Hunt was the subject of Ron Howard's movie Rush, one of the best racing films ever. After being severely burned in a crash in the 1976 German GP, he went from being given the last rights to back in a race car in six weeks. Up until his latest illness, Lauda served as a team mentor for the Mercedes team, chiefly, Lewis Hamilton. He also got around to starting three airlines. A legend of the sport and one of a kind.
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Thinking about it, not a childhood hero, I was in my late twenties when and early thirties. Anyway, Lauda was a guiding light of the sport and made the greatest sporting comeback of all time.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/48348202
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Dog the Bounty Hunter's wife passed yesterday. Beth Chapman.
I liked her. :(
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Lee Iacocca, American automobile executive, died today at age 94.
Interesting dude, father of the Mustang and saviour of Chrysler.
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Interesting dude, father of the Mustang and saviour of Chrysler.
Over the years I have had both a Chrysler and, earlier on, a Mustang. Oh what fun it was as a young fella in the summer time to put the top down and the music up and then stomp on it heading for the beach.
He got to a ripe old age and may he RIP.
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Arte Johnson.
****.
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Arte Johnson.
****.
I’m sorry blubber for the comments on your wife. I found out your wife left long ago
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No need to apologize.
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Arte Johnson.
****.
He was 90!
Laugh in was great.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/entertainment/arte-johnson-obit/index.html
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H Ross Perot
The original wacky billionaire president wannabe.
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Rhoda!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/valerie-harper-dead-1.5266638
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I liked her more than Mary. I think she may have been the beginning of me liking admiring Jews - although Rhoda as an open Jew on TV was played by a gentile, Valerie Harper. :o
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I liked her more than Mary. I think she may have been the beginning of me liking admiring Jews - although Rhoda as an open Jew on TV was played by a gentile, Valerie Harper. :o
'Rhoda' had a lot of character, the first non-bland woman I remember watching, and thinking, 'Ya, she's like me!'
And the rest is herstory! Lol
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MTM enterprises, which pioneered such shows were about the rebirth of quality writing and TV
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-49604152
Mugabe dead - and we don't have a "an African Dictator has died" thread durn it.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-49604152
Mugabe dead - and we don't have a "an African Dictator has died" thread durn it.
No loss there. He managed to turn one of the most prosperous country in Africa into a basket case.
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No loss there. He managed to turn one of the most prosperous country in Africa into a basket case.
You mean "prosperous" for the white minority then in power ...
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You mean "prosperous" for the white minority then in power ...
You think Mugabe helped out black people in Zimbabwe?
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You think Mugabe helped out black people in Zimbabwe?
Mugabe helped out himself and his friends, who happened to be black.
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Ric Ocasek of The Cars, age 75.
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Aron Eisenberg, who played the Ferengi Nog on Star Trek: Deep Space 9, died this past weekend at age 50. His short stature was a result of being born with a single kidney, and he received two kidney transplants. The first was at age 17, and the second was a few years ago. No cause of death has been announced.
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Legendary drummer, Neil Peart, has died of brain cancer.
I admit... this is a “celebrity death” that has affected me. I played percussion in my younger years, and he was a drum god. Was lucky enough to see Rush in concert 3 times.
When I heard that he was gone,
I felt a shadow cross my heart.
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Peart was indeed a drum god. The best rock musician in Canadian history.
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Peart was indeed a drum god. The best rock musician in Canadian history.
Geddy Lee also regarded as one of the best rock bass players an vocalists ever.
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I cannot get anything bigger than rock bass when I fish.
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Geddy Lee also regarded as one of the best rock bass players an vocalists ever.
Great bassist, horrendous vocalist (IMO).
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Derek Fowlds. A great actor and I loved him as Bernard Woolley on Yes [Prime] Minister.
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Derek Fowlds. A great actor and I loved him as Bernard Woolley on Yes [Prime] Minister.
Two great series. Bureaucracy at its finest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQlQlQ6_pk
Terry Jones today as well.
spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam spam.
A bad week for comedy.
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Terry Jones today as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/aWCOJYe.png)
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The Pythons are only a few years older than me so I grew up with them. They were revolutionary. The Holy Grail and The Life of Brian are two of my favourite movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSo0duY7-9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_kKAeh6qyc
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And the third...
Ravi Shankar 92
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-20690632?SThisFB
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And the third...
Ravi Shankar 92
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-20690632?SThisFB
He was quite a sensation in the sixties and seventies what with Monterey, Woodstock and the Beetles.
I really like Norah Jones music.
Seems like every week I am getting an email that someone I flew or worked with over the years is gone. Feel like my youth is going up in smoke. I remember my parents saying the same thing as they got older.
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He was quite a sensation in the sixties and seventies what with Monterey, Woodstock and the Beetles.
I really like Norah Jones music.
Seems like every week I am getting an email that someone I flew or worked with over the years is gone. Feel like my youth is going up in smoke. I remember my parents saying the same thing as they got older.
You're going to feel really old when you find out he died seven years ago.
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You're going to feel really old when you find out he died seven years ago.
Good catch, I never noticed. Was Micheal having us on?
But no, just the opposite. Turns out I'm seven years younger than I thought I was.
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Nope. I got taken in ;)
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Rumour coming through... Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash :o
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Rumour coming through... Kobe Bryant killed in a helicopter crash :o
Now confirmed. He and 4 others.
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I was away from the TV for awhile and now I'm hearing there were 9 killed not 5. And it includes Kobe's 13 year old daughter. All very sad.
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It seems that this crash was simply pilot error. Was he/she pushed or just not willing to abort the flight before it became dangerous?
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It seems that this crash was simply pilot error. Was he/she pushed or just not willing to abort the flight before it became dangerous?
Special VFR is a mugs game. Did it once for a flight of a whole five or six miles and never wanted to do it again.
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Special VFR is a mugs game. Did it once for a flight of a whole five or six miles and never wanted to do it again.
It can work to get you going especially since they allowed VFR OTT, but I would never suggest anyone use it unless you are comfortable/qualified tocontinue flying "on the guages".
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It can work to get you going especially since they allowed VFR OTT, but I would never suggest anyone use it unless you are comfortable/qualified tocontinue flying "on the guages".
The thing is, if you are going to fly on gauges you will probably have to climb into actual instrument conditions and use IFR procedures, particularly in BC where terrain doesn't give you much choice.
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The thing is, if you are going to fly on gauges you will probably have to climb into actual instrument conditions and use IFR procedures, particularly in BC where terrain doesn't give you much choice.
Yes I think this driver was in over his head so to speak and couldn't find a way out. one thing that told me a lot about what led to the crash was from a part of the video which showed quite clearly the tail section clearly identifiable and lying by itself away from the rest of the wreckage, very likely caused by an extreme last minute over control input in an attempt to avoid terrain collision.
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Yes I think this driver was in over his head so to speak and couldn't find a way out. one thing that told me a lot about what led to the crash was from a part of the video which showed quite clearly the tail section clearly identifiable and lying by itself away from the rest of the wreckage, very likely caused by an extreme last minute over control input in an attempt to avoid terrain collision.
I'm not a hoppycopter guy but I would have thought someone flying this type of machine would have been instrument rated. I can see him losing track of his position but a loss of control surprises me.
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I'm not a hoppycopter guy but I would have thought someone flying this type of machine would have been instrument rated. I can see him losing track of his position but a loss of control surprises me.
I think he lost control after he lost a significant part of the airframe. As I say, the ass end of the tail boom is clearly visible a distance from the rest to the wreckage.
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What kind of aerodynamic load would cause the tail to come off a helicopter? I see the S76 has some sort of stabilizer but it doesn't look big enough to apply that kind of load. Surely the rotor isn't capable of doing it. Do you think it hit something?
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What kind of aerodynamic load would cause the tail to come off a helicopter? I see the S76 has some sort of stabilizer but it doesn't look big enough to apply that kind of load. Surely the rotor isn't capable of doing it. Do you think it hit something?
The main rotor actually is capable of doing it and from what I can see in the grainy video, the section of tail boom that is laying there separate from the rest of the debris is commensurate with a rotor strike. And again the video is grainy but if you look toward the opposite direction from where the tail is and where the smoke was wafting up, I believe what I saw there are (two) of the original (four) main rotor blades. Those items are laying more or less parallel (not of course normal since they are installed at 90 deg. to each other) and seem to be connected to a basically unidentifiable piece of (stuff) but which could well be the main transmission, which drives them. So my speculation would be that the main rotor hit and severed the tail section, either due to some sort of mechanical failure, or by a very violent series control inputs aimed at collision avoidance arising from the very poor visibility (fog) in the area and the rising slope of the surrounding terrain. They could also have actually got close enough to trees in the bad vis. to have had a main rotor strike, although that scenario doesn't quite fit the lay of the land vis a vis the direction of the debris field. It will take some time to pick up all those pieces and sort them but I would be looking right away for evidence of main rotor leading edge material on sections of that tail piece.
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Interesting, I didn't know there might be enough cyclical movement or flex for a main rotor to hit the tail
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Interesting, I didn't know there might be enough cyclical movement or flex for a main rotor to hit the tail
Extreme control inputs along with reduced RPM, possibly from an engine failure, could cause that impact. Unfortunately no "black boxes" on those aircraft to tell us what was happening prior to the event.
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Looks now like he may have hit the hiil and then fell into the valley.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(book)
Helicopter people... I read this book... It's on topic...
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They are now saying the aircraft was intact when it hit the ground, the wreckage was spread out do to the violence of the crash. Like there was a really high forward speed as well as a high rate of descent.
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They are now saying the aircraft was intact when it hit the ground, the wreckage was spread out do to the violence of the crash. Like there was a really high forward speed as well as a high rate of descent.
The aerial video I have seen quite clearly shows the remains of the tailboom lying on one side of the crash site (where you can see the smoke rising) and the last few feet of the boom including the tail rotor/fin on the far side of the site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmqAosIKkEY
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(book)
Helicopter people... I read this book... It's on topic...
Good read with a surprise ending.
At least it was a surprise ending if you read it before the internet.
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The aerial video I have seen quite clearly shows the remains of the tailboom lying on one side of the crash site (where you can see the smoke rising) and the last few feet of the boom including the tail rotor/fin on the far side of the site.
I just got that from what one of the inspectors said on TV. I listened to the ATC transcript and it sounds like he was just winging it hoping to transition to VFR at some point. At one point he reported being VFR at 1500 ft but when he asked for flight following, ATC told him he was too low. Too bad he just didn't climb when he knew where he was and ask for an IFR clearance.
I see what you are saying though.
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I'm just got that from what one of the inspectors said on TV. I listened to the ATC transcripts and it sounds like he was just winging it hoping to transition to VFR at some point. At one point he reported being VFR at 1500 ft but when he asked for flight following, ATC told him he was too low. Too bad he just didn't climb when he knew where he was and ask for an IFR clearance.
I heard he did have an instrument rating so yeah I wonder why, when he got into the shyte, he didn't just pull power, climb and call ATC. Surely he would have a GPS in there that could steer him away from higher terrain as he climbed. Perhaps he didn't have a lot of IMC experience and was therefore hesitant.
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I heard he did have an instrument rating so yeah I wonder why, when he got into the shyte, he didn't just pull power, climb and call ATC. Surely he would have a GPS in there that could steer him away from higher terrain as he climbed. Perhaps he didn't have a lot of IMC experience and was therefore hesitant.
That's my thought. If most of his flying was done in So Cal you have to wonder how often he has had to fly in actual IMC.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(book)
Helicopter people... I read this book... It's on topic...
Back in the day, I was taking a flight engineer course at American in Dallas. Our ground school instructor was a Texan with an accent so thick it took us a week before we didn't have to ask him to repeat everything. Interesting guy and a good instructor once we could understand him. During the Viet Nam war he had worked as an instructor for Bell, teaching Vietnamese kids to fly Hueys and such. Apparently they broke a lot of helicopters. I think it might have been him who put us on to reading Chickenhawk.
PS. Nope, couldn't have been him, the book was published a few years later. It was someone at work though.
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Pretty incredible book. That, with the Ken Burns documentary, made me feel like I understand that war.
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Pretty incredible book. That, with the Ken Burns documentary, made me feel like I understand that war.
Burns does some really interesting stuff.
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Pretty incredible book. That, with the Ken Burns documentary, made me feel like I understand that war.
I did a little "flingwinging" in my day, the last go around of that was in Afghanistan hauling US troops around. During one of those trips over to Bagram airbase things got pretty noisy all of a sudden. I felt a jolt and then one of the troops tapped me on the shoulder and said I think we got hit. Scanning the panel everything looked normal except that the fuel gauge was reducing at an alarming rate. Luckily there was another base close so we diverted and landed inside the wire. That helped me understand that war.
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I noticed that a Washington Post writer got fired from her job and threatened with violence after pointing out that Kobe Bryant's **** case back in the day.
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What's **** ?
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Sorry, forgot about the auto-censor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case
"It was consensual!"
The charges were dropped when the accuser wouldn't testify, and later on she ended up getting a big cheque from Kobe.
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Sorry, forgot about the auto-censor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case
"It was consensual!"
The charges were dropped when the accuser wouldn't testify, and later on she ended up getting a big cheque from Kobe.
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Not quite.
Her civil suit demanded an apology from Bryant, and she got it, sort of:
"I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives
of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has
agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil
case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was
consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this
incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery,
listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now
understand how she feels that she did not consent to this
encounter.
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Not quite.
Her civil suit demanded an apology from Bryant, and she got it, sort of:
"I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives
of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has
agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil
case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was
consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this
incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery,
listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now
understand how she feels that she did not consent to this
encounter.
Civil case
In August 2004, the accuser filed a civil lawsuit against Bryant over the incident.[22] In March 2005, the two parties settled that lawsuit. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed to the public.[23] The Los Angeles Times reported that legal experts estimated the settlement was more than $2.5 million.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case#Civil_case
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Christy Blatchford.
Agree with her or not, that was a real journalist.
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Weird - I thought I responded to this ?
I posted that I thought she was ok but that many posters here are as interesting to read. I suspect that the era of the 'writer' is done...
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Also she was an editorialist more than a journalist...
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Also she was an editorialist more than a journalist...
Both, she did her research.
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Christy Blatchford.
Agree with her or not, that was a real journalist.
as much as she earned said "tenacious" reputation in her early sports/crime writing, she'll forever be known as just another right-wing blowhard - one given a free-lane by ConMedia! And if you think the waldo is a tad callous... even before the body is cold... here's a reminder of the vile/insensitive writing from Ms. Blatchford - as she dumps on the just-passed Jack Layton:
And what to make of that astonishing letter, widely hailed as Mr. Layton’s magnificent from-the-grave cri de coeur?...Rather, it’s remarkable because it shows what a canny, relentless, thoroughly ambitious fellow Mr. Layton was. Even on Saturday, two days before he died, he managed to keep a gimlet eye on all the campaigns to come.
The letter is full of such sophistry as “We can restore our good name in the world,” as though it is a given Canada has somehow lost that, bumper-sticker slogans of the “love is better than anger” ilk and ruthlessly partisan politicking (“You decided that the way to replace Canada’s Conservative federal government with something better was by working together with progressive-minded Canadians across the country,” he said in the section meant for Quebecers).
The letter is vainglorious too.
Who thinks to leave a 1,000-word missive meant for public consumption and released by his family and the party mid-day, happily just as Mr. [Evan] Solomon and his fellows were in danger of running out of pap? Who seriously writes of himself, “All my life I have worked to make things better”
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as much as she earned said "tenacious" reputation in her early sports/crime writing, she'll forever be known as just another right-wing blowhard - one given a free-lane by ConMedia! And if you think the waldo is a tad callous... even before the body is cold... here's a reminder of the vile/insensitive writing from Ms. Blatchford - as she dumps on the just-passed Jack Layton:
She worked for all four Toronto papers. You are right she wasn't just another left wing blowhard.
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Both, she did her research.
Only to find stuff that suited her personal narrative, no matter how disreputable the source. Lol
Please, she was a columnist who invited controversy by her extremist right-wing views, a desirable quality to sell newspapers no doubt, but she was no oracle of truth ... or journalism.
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Only to find stuff that suited her personal narrative, no matter how disreputable the source. Lol
Please, she was a columnist who invited controversy by her extremist right-wing views, a desirable quality to sell newspapers no doubt, but she was no oracle of truth ... or journalism.
Award winning war correspondent, Governor General's Literary Award, National Newspaper Award, George Jonas Freedom Award.
Yup, a real hack alright.
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Award winning war correspondent, Governor General's Literary Award, National Newspaper Award, George Jonas Freedom Award.
Yup, a real hack alright.
Her drooling comments about the 'dewey cheeks' of young soldiers were downright sickening. Lol
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Her drooling comments about the 'dewey cheeks' of young soldiers were downright sickening. Lol
Wow, you got a real hate going on there.
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Christy Blatchford.
Agree with her or not, that was a real journalist.
Yes, she was far more a journalist compared to what tries to pass themselves off as journalists these days.
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I thought she was average as an editorialist. I think Coyne is much more balanced and far less ideological. But she seems to do good work on crime/justice reporting, but i didn't follow much of it. Gone quickly and too soon for sure though, sad. I think it's neat to have nationally known journalists, for whatever that's worth.
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Max von Sydow
A long and interesting career. I first remember him from Bergman movies they used to show on late night TV in he seventies. Seemed really weird and dark compared to what we were used to back then.
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Curly. :(
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John Prine : - (
https://youtu.be/gM9FQIvX8l0
https://youtu.be/OaDGYFNmtyY
https://youtu.be/MmjnQjRvPUQ
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John Prine was one of my all time favorites. I got to see him live once. Great show. Most of us sung along and knew all the words.
RIP John
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Hal Willner of COVID-19. I very much enjoyed his Weird Nightmare in the 1990s, which included Chuck D rapping a story written by Charles Mingus about the etymology of the word "groovy" on top of some dissonant free jazz. It was awesome.
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Sir Stirling Moss gone. Maybe the best driver never to be world champion and along with Fangio, the best known driver of his era. The only non Italian to win the Mille Miglia.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/12/stirling-moss-dies-aged-90-formula-one-racing
I was pulled over by the VPD while whipping along Marine Drive in my Mini Cooper back in the late sixties. The cops first words were, "who do you think you are, Stirling Moss?" Fortunately all I got was a lecture. It was one of their favourite lines for speeders back then.
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Two years ago today, the great Art Bell passed away. Best known for his role on Coast to Coast AM. I’m not sure if anyone else listened to him, but he and his programs were highly entertaining. It was always a great escape from reality to tune in.
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Yes, I enjoyed his voice and the program... as fiction.
The loser George Noory is a poor replacement and tries to make conspiracies real...
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Yes, I enjoyed his voice and the program... as fiction.
The loser George Noory is a poor replacement and tries to make conspiracies real...
Yes, I totally agree. Noory definitely isn’t in Bell’s class. I actually like Ian Punett better than Noory. I subscribe to the Coast to Coast website. They have an Art Bell section, it’s great. Check out the paranormal radio app too, there’s 3 all day Art Bell stations, it’s all free. I also agree with your fiction assessment. Other than a few topics related to history, most of it is taken with a grain of salt. Although the programs with physicist Michio Kakyū is pretty science based.
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I did like listening to it, especially when it was Art Bell reruns but eventually Noory just got on my nerves.
When I was a kid in the 60s and 70s the conspiracy thing was fun - and you had to go and look for it. Today it's just annoying to me.
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Who gives a **** about John Prine. Honor Blackman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Galore)died.
Also, Edmonton Oilers forward Colby "Caveman" Cave passed away at age 25. Here's a 25 year old guy, in peak physical condition, and all of a sudden one night he's in a medically induced coma for a "brain bleed", whatever that is, and a few days later he's dead.
Colby Cave was an Oilers prospect who played for the Oilers as well as the Oilers' AHL affiliate, the Bakersfield Condors. Cave was not a star, but he was a hard-working 4th line player who had a promising future in professional hockey.
This is a tweet from Calgary Flames prospect Martin Posipisil, after a fight in which Cave knocked Pospisil out:
(https://i.imgur.com/yFMdC1u.png)
It's extremely sad any time a 25 year old person dies. It's sadder still when it's someone who had so much to look foward to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4sq75_zd5Q
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Apparently Fat Kim has cacked 'er. (That means dead in my part of town). I wonder if Donny will head over for his beloved friends funeral, or whatever they do there with dead dictators.
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So Fat Kim popped his clogs, wonder who will be the next despot with nukes.
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So Fat Kim popped his clogs, wonder who will be the next despot with nukes.
From what I hear his sister should be next in line but I'm not sure women are allowed that power within that society. I guess we just have to wait to see.
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No confirmation yet on Fat Kim.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9vaC2OU.jpg)
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So is Kim dead or not? I hear S. Korea officials say he is alive and well. How come he doesn't just show his face if he's that well. Any speculation?
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So is Kim dead or not? I hear S. Korea officials say he is alive and well. How come he doesn't just show his face if he's that well. Any speculation?
I would speculate that he may be dead, or, in his immunocompromised recovery from heart surgery, he's hiding from the virus.
And of course doesn't want to say so because ... there are reportedly "no cases" of covid in N Korea, or none that he wants to admit to.
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So is Kim dead or not?
Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
It's just a hangover.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXicgFBXsAAyIP5?format=jpg&name=900x900
RIP Roy Horn, who entertained millions.
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Richard Penniman, who also entertained millions.
Well, that's a wop-bop-a-loo-bop-a-wop-bam-boom.
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Richard Penniman, who also entertained millions.
Well, that's a wop-bop-a-loo-bop-a-wop-bam-boom.
Little Richard = LEGEND
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SERENITY NOW! Jerry Stiller is dead.
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SERENITY NOW! Jerry Stiller is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l8Eag9CAFk
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Carl Reiner, father of Meat Head.
A very funny guy.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/carl-reiner-dies-1.5632537
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A giant in American comedy. RIP
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Eddie Shack
One of hockey's great characters.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/eddie-shack-dies-fomer-toronto-maple-leafs-1.5663614
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Chadwick Boseman
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/29/our-superhero-black-british-figures-praise-chadwick-boseman
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I was stunned by this. He was only 43 and looked like the picture of health. Colon cancer. :(
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Ennio Morricone died this summer. He was the composer of legendary movie soundtracks including The Good The Bad and The Ugly. He was literally older than dirt, and was there in person while the West was being Won. This is him at the conductor's podium for one of his most famous pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKFpaCMRWgU
Naya Rivera drowned in July while boating with her young son. Apparently her son fell off the boat, and while she was able to rescue him, she was too exhausted to get back on the boat afterward. She was just 33. She was a model, singer, and actress, best known as Santana (the snarky lesbian cheerleader) on Glee. She and Heather Morris (Britney, the airhead lesbian cheerleader on Glee) were the cutest couple on TV. Even though Glee sucked, I sometimes tuned in just to see what kind of hijinks they were up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_AeFn0_1D0
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I’m always dismayed at how few people wear life jackets out on the water. I boat a lot, professionally for work and for pleasure, and always wear a life jacket on my boats, or even in the canoe.
I was just camping the last few days at a very cold lake known for getting windy without warning, where we had to go rescue an old lady stranded on a sandbar when we were there back in June who was in a kayak when the wind came up and couldn’t make it back. No life jacket.
A young-ish couple was there this week, kayaking and paddle boarding a significant distance out on the lake.... no life jackets.
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member squiggy, did any celebs die as a part of your search&rescue efforts? Please give me an 'informative' tag - yes? ;D
member kimmy - thanks for the reference to Morricone... it allowed me a fine upside diversion to his collaborations with film director Sergio Leone and so-called spaghetti westerns. In any case, a full-life lived well.
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I’m always dismayed at how few people wear life jackets out on the water. I boat a lot, professionally for work and for pleasure, and always wear a life jacket on my boats, or even in the canoe.
Yup. Nobody comes aboard the boats I usually drive without an inflatable PFD for adults and standard life-jackets for kids. In the not so distant past on larger passenger vessels we didn't require this but occasionally parents would request their kids be given lifejackets, predictably these kids would seethe if they were the odd one out who had to wear one. Now of course that's all fine on deck but since you don't want anyone wearing flotation inside a boat for much the same reason you don't want them wearing seatbelts I tell parents their kids need to take life-jackets off when inside the cabin. Naturally the kids take this as a personal slight now and don't want to be the odd one out. I also notice there seems to be a cohort that are to big for kids conventional life-jackets and amongst which a certain wise-ass type can't resist popping off their inflatable vest. We use them to troll for orca. Don't tie the line around their neck though, if you loop it under one arm they spin when you tow them about.
All that said, I spent almost 30 years on commercial fishing boats and the only times I wore a PFD (a cruiser suit) was on the deck of a trawler in the middle of winter, more to keep warm than anything.
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I had to tow a neighbour home on the long weekend. He has a beautiful old Chris Craft mahogany runabout from the late fifties. I was out and saw him go by looking pretty. A little while later he was dead in the water with the doghouse open. I pulled up and he said the engine had grenaded. Pulled him home and it turned out #8 rod had let go. There were holes in both sides of the cast oil pan and the bilge was full of oil. He was lucky it didn't go through the bottom. He was just cruising along at 2600 RPM and it went bang and stopped. It's the original engine so he is hoping it can be rebuilt. He does have a spare though.
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Don't tie the line around their neck though, if you loop it under one arm they spin when you tow them about.
“Spins like a Tomic plug” is a saying, right?
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“Spins like a Tomic plug” is a saying, right?
It's not one I've heard because they're supposed to dart back and forth not spin. I've seen the swivels on the hook jam up or the fish has drowned and starts spinning which makes the leaders kink up.
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It's not one I've heard because they're supposed to dart back and forth not spin. I've seen the swivels on the hook jam up or the fish has drowned and starts spinning which makes the leaders kink up.
That’s true... the little plugs I use for trout do spin....
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That’s true... the little plugs I use for trout do spin....
Due to the shape of the plug or is here a swivel between the leader and the plug instead of the plug and the hook? I usually just use a poor old worm and bobber myself for trout. I bet we could rigging up something similar for orca (or a Kraken) with a Scotchman and a
lead cannonball. I doubt the kid would enjoy being skewered with a big hook anymore than a worm but it is what it is.
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I’m always dismayed at how few people wear life jackets out on the water. I boat a lot, professionally for work and for pleasure, and always wear a life jacket on my boats, or even in the canoe.
I wear a life jacket about 85% of the time when on the water, but on a warm summer day on a calm lake or river in the canoe* I just have to take it off.
*rarely am I in calm water in a kayak, but it has happened on the odd occasion.
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https://deadline.com/2020/09/helen-reddy-dead-i-am-woman-singer-feminist-1234588490/
Helen Reddy RIP :(
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Delta Dawn confused me. They said he was meeting her here today without identifying who “he” was. This led me to believe they were referring to a guy named Daizgon Bye who hands out faded roses.
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A guitar god has died today.
RIP Eddie Van Halen
(https://i-cbc-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/i.cbc.ca/1.5752726.1602015831!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/obit-eddie-van-halen.jpg)
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Another band that was undermined by their own PR somewhat.
Truly great but they should have had 10 albums of solid stuff...
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Another band that was undermined by their own PR somewhat.
Truly great but they should have had 10 albums of solid stuff...
They don’t? While I think they had maybe 2 stinkers, The rest of their stuff is “solid”.
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EVH the most influential electric guitarist ever next to Hendrix. Defined the sound of the rock guitar, especially lead/solos, for the next decade after their first album in 1978.
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They don’t? While I think they had maybe 2 stinkers, The rest of their stuff is “solid”.
I never heard anything that great after Roth left, but maybe there was some.
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Edmonton Oilers legend Joey Moss has passed away, age 57. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FpZDtEbAWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f033PuCVxwo
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That's really sad.
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/72/a3/1d72a37c95f108af0a578a7d9c8483e0.jpg)
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1d/72/a3/1d72a37c95f108af0a578a7d9c8483e0.jpg)
The best James Bond by far.
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So many good movies, not just Bond.
One of the real Stars.
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Max Ward. Canadian aviation legend gone
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/max-ward-obituary-1.5788258
The Wardair Bristol Freighter on the pedestal at the Yellownknife airport was the first wheeled aircraft to land at the geographical north pole.
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Alex Trebek :-[
RIP - seemed like a class act.
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And now Howie Meeker.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/howie-meeker-death-hockey-night-in-canada-nhl-1.5794606
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Chuck Yeager
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chuch-yeager-pilot-dies-1.5832252
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40 years after John Lennon
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40 years after John Lennon
Ya, another anniversary. Remember where you were when you heard or are you old enough? I do.
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I wasn't alive yet. Many people found out while watching Monday Night Football:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJcoJUT12M
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I wasn't alive yet. Many people found out while watching Monday Night Football:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdJcoJUT12M
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I found out after arriving home here west coast after changing planes in New York on the way home from work overseas on the very day. A shock for sure.
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I was on a layover at the Toronto Airport Holiday Inn when it came on the news.
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John leCarre.
The undisputed greatest spy novelist ever. There have probably been more movies made from his books than any modern author other than Steven King. Way back when, the BBC did a couple of mini series of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People with Sir Alec Guinness as George Smiley. I was hooked after that. He released an autobiography this year and I was looking forward to reading it. He may have known this was coming.
Just looked and both series are on YouTube. I’m going to watch them again.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55297558
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/13/john-le-carre-author-of-tinker-tailor-soldier-spy-dies-aged-89
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An interesting editorial on how the death of celebrities can affect us, which I really related too.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/18/le-carre-death-loss-public-figures-intimate-mourn-mourning
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Dawn Wells, Marianne from Gilligan's Island.
RIP dies of Covid at 82.
I was a Ginger man. My first longings were of her.
Then I moved to Marianne, and finally Mrs. Howell
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Ginger is the last survivor from the island. Does she win $1M?
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Cloris Leachman made me rethink the attractiveness of middle aged women (in their favour) when I was a lad watching the Last Picture Show.
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Cicely Tyson was NOT Mike Tyson's mother.
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One of our greatest. So many good movies and characters
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/christopher-plummer-obituary-1.5902845
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One of our greatest. So many good movies and characters
Well... I feel like he was kind of an odd figure... a star but... I can't think of a great role, myself. Maybe I just didn't like his movies.
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Holy ****! Larry Flynt was still alive!
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Great news: Rush Limbaugh is dead (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/business/media/rush-limbaugh-dead.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage)
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His AP obituary was hilarious. Just a long list of horrible things.
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I've come to realize that someone dying doesn't make me happy.
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Great news: Rush Limbaugh is dead (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/business/media/rush-limbaugh-dead.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage)
The guy was a fool, but really?
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I've come to realize that someone dying doesn't make me happy.
I know what you mean but unlike many other celebs who have died, I can't say I will miss him.
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The guy was a fool, but really?
I hope it was extremely painful and the only downside is that it didn't happen 70 years earlier.
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I've come to realize that someone dying doesn't make me happy.
It makes me extremely happy when some evil p.o.s bites the big one.
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Hmmm... I was sure I heard that Limbaugh had been cured.... oh well...
https://www.wonkette.com/bam-rush-limbaugh-totally-cured-of-stage-4-lung-cancer-by-trump-loving-preacher
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Douche Dimbaugh made the world a worse place.
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Hmmm... I was sure I heard that Limbaugh had been cured.... oh well...
https://www.wonkette.com/bam-rush-limbaugh-totally-cured-of-stage-4-lung-cancer-by-trump-loving-preacher
wonkette.com. Aptly named.
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George Segal. Always enjoyed his stuff.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/george-segal-obit-1.5961446
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Jessica Walter, voice of Malory Archer and the mom in Arrested Development, has died.
She was also one of the stars in my favourite film, Grand Prix.
(https://slotracer.online/grand-prix/images/270w/Grand-Prix-270w-090.jpg)
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Jessica Walter, voice of Malory Archer and the mom in Arrested Development, has died.
She was also one of the stars in my favourite film, Grand Prix.
(https://slotracer.online/grand-prix/images/270w/Grand-Prix-270w-090.jpg)
Oh yes, her and Eva Marie Saint. One of my favourite films as well, ground breaking at a time before CGI and digital cameras.
(https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/posters/grand-prix-eva-marie-saint-james-garner-1966_a-G-14712780-7174949.jpg)
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Anyone see Ford vs Ferrari? Good film.
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Anyone see Ford vs Ferrari? Good film.
Not yet but I keep meaning to.
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G. Gordon Liddy has died.... the guy from 'Old School' by Steely Dan
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/steely-dan/my-old-school
The song is at least partially inspired by an event that occurred at Bard, where both Becker and Fagen, along with their girlfriends, were arrested in a pot raid on a party that was orchestrated by an ambitious young District Attorney named G. Gordon Liddy (hence the line "Tried to warn ya about Geno and Daddy G").
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Old people: "I don't get Lil Nas."
Me: "I don't get Lil Nas, but I also don't get Steely Dan."
I've filed Steely Dan alongside Woody Allen movies in the folder of things that sophisticated people think are amazing but I will never understand the appeal of.
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Old people: "I don't get Lil Nas."
Me: "I don't get Lil Nas, but I also don't get Steely Dan."
I've filed Steely Dan alongside Woody Allen movies in the folder of things that sophisticated people think are amazing but I will never understand the appeal of.
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You 'get' Steely Dan AND Woody Allen but you don't like them.
Steely Dan is crazy complicated music made to sound simple, recorded with the most perfectionism ever and delivered with wry lyrics.
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You 'get' Steely Dan AND Woody Allen but you don't like them.
Steely Dan is crazy complicated music made to sound simple, recorded with the most perfectionism ever and delivered with wry lyrics.
And it still comes out sounding like s**t!
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Any band named after a William S. Burroughs dildo can't be all bad.
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I don't get this so-called "rap music" the kids keep talking about.
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I don't get this so-called "rap music" the kids keep talking about.
Start with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjE4Vxe5-Ak
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And it still comes out sounding like s**t!
What the hell is wrong with you ?
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Steely Dan did a brave and not entirely unsuccessful cover of the Bubber Miley claasic East St Louis Toodle-oo, so I will cut them some slack for that.
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Steely Dan did a brave and not entirely unsuccessful cover of the Bubber Miley claasic East St Louis Toodle-oo, so I will cut them some slack for that.
The dudes from that era prided themselves on knowing obscure blues bullshit.
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The dudes from that era prided themselves on knowing obscure blues bullshit.
That bullshit is neither obscure nor blues. What the hell is wrong with you? /s
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That bullshit is neither obscure nor blues. What the hell is wrong with you? /s
??? I'm lost
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??? I'm lost
No kidding. What isn't there to get?
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No kidding. What isn't there to get?
Yep. That's what I wonder too.
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I'm lost.
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Hmmm, and I thought *I* had a dry sense of humour.
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Steely Dan did a brave and not entirely unsuccessful cover of the Bubber Miley claasic East St Louis Toodle-oo, so I will cut them some slack for that.
Same energy:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERzt6tXXsAAmk7g.jpg)
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The Colgate Comedy Hour was pretty funny. Eddie Cantor was always hilarious.
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Prince Philip 99.
I'm glad I am (currently) watching The Crown so I have some context on the strange life he had.
Basically, a hot greek guy, the queen fell in love with him when she was 13. If The Crown is right, he didn't really have an idea that he would be almost powerless in their marriage and so he acted out early on, until an "understanding" was made.
I would love to live to 99 and be outlived by my wife and kids. It would be the best thing to happen to me.
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Very sad although we all knew it couldn’t be too far away. Old school. Like the Queen, someone who understood the true meaning of duty.
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Very sad although we all knew it couldn’t be too far away. Old school. Like the Queen, someone who understood the true meaning of duty.
I like and respect Prince Charles a lot but I can see how his sense of duty has waivered at times. Prince William seems to have it though, for better or for worse, he is following in his grandmother's footsteps. His whole family is like a postcard from old school royalty.
RIP Prince Phillip.
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I think Charles is underrated by most and will always have his unfortunate marriage hanging over him. He is also the longest living successor and will be viewed from over 70 years of life when he takes the throne rather than his mother’s 26 years.
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The Crown episode we last watched covered his horrible schooling. It felt like a punch in the stomach. :(
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The Crown episode we last watched covered his horrible schooling. It felt like a punch in the stomach. :(
It was the same school Phillip went to and he excelled there. They are two very different people.
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I think Charles is underrated by most and will always have his unfortunate marriage hanging over him. He is also the longest living successor and will be viewed from over 70 years of life when he takes the throne rather than his mother’s 26 years.
His marriage actually is where he didn't waiver from duty. He married the person his family chose so that he can provide an heir and even though it didn't work out, he gave it a try. He has obviously always loved Camilla all his life and said it's 'non-negotiable' that he marries her. The cheating aside, I think the way he's loved her is very romantic.
Where he waivered from duty is in his political stances. He left his mother to show up alone to meet Chinese president. He has been ardent supporter of the environment and other faiths. He was working with immigrants and impoverished kids long before meeting Diana and when it was more controversial.
The parts of his duty he waivered from I absolutely admire and it makes me like him even more. I'm just saying he hasn't always been neutral like a good little royal which is fine by me since I support his causes.
I think he will make a fantastic king, it's too bad so many people can't see beyond his marriage.
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His marriage actually is where he didn't waiver from duty. He married the person his family chose so that he can provide an heir and even though it didn't work out, he gave it a try. He has obviously always loved Camilla all his life and said it's 'non-negotiable' that he marries her. The cheating aside, I think the way he's loved her is very romantic.
Where he waivered from duty is in his political stances. He left his mother to show up alone to meet Chinese president. He has been ardent supporter of the environment and other faiths. He was working with immigrants and impoverished kids long before meeting Diana and when it was more controversial.
The parts of his duty he waivered from I absolutely admire and it makes me like him even more. I'm just saying he hasn't always been neutral like a good little royal which is fine by me since I support his causes.
I think he will make a fantastic king, it's too bad so many people can't see beyond his marriage.
I think the monarch is mostly only relevant as a symbol. I think their personal lives should be totally ignored unless it interferes with their duties. I don't think we need to replace the monarchy or anything, i'm just saying their role in society is IMO very limited as it should be. Their duties should be relegated to acting professionally and courteously especially when performing duties, and acting in the best interests of the country on the very rare occasion that they need to act politically.
I know literally nothing about Phillip, which I think is probably a good sign because it means he hasn't messed up much. Nobody should care much about him unless he somehow interfered with the Queen's ability to perform her duties properly.
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Well his personal story is actually pretty interesting.
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I remember during a walkabout for the Manitovba centennial in 1970, my family went to look. We were right at the front and he went up to my brother and said "Say there, do you ride?" My brother was 12 at the time and just stared at him. Then he said, "I say, do you ride?" And my brother shrugged his shoulders. And then Phillip said "Oh, you're stupid too then?" and walked on. It was awesome.
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About Anne he once said, "if it doesn't fart or eat hay she isn't interested".
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Charles Grodin, age 86. He was in lots of things, but for people my age is probably best known for the Beethoven movies.
The last thing I saw him in was this cameo in "So I Married An Axe Murderer".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amk93P4CTy4
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Pretty strange for me to have a Millenial post about Grodin's passing.
It made sense, though, when I saw what you knew him from.
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Frank Bonner (Herb Tarlek) dead at 79. Great character, WKRP was one of the best shows of the 70/80's along with Night Court.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCHTZtKi9P0
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RIP Dusty Hill. Bassist for ZZ Top.
Sad.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/charlie-watts-rolling-stones-drummer-dead-obit-1161926/
Charlie Watts RIP
First Brian Jones, now this. Do you think something is up ?
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What about Don Everly? You can't not mention Don Everly!
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First Brian Jones, now this. Do you think something is up ?
I bet it doesn't take another 50 years for the next one to die.
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What about Don Everly? You can't not mention Don Everly!
You can't say I can't when I DID.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/charlie-watts-rolling-stones-drummer-dead-obit-1161926/
Charlie Watts RIP
It seems unfitting that Watts be the first to die, as he's the one who wasn't infamous for something outside of music.
For all of his low-key skill behind the kit, Watts seemed well aware that he was an irreplaceable element of the Stones’ sound. As one famous story from the band’s heyday goes, Jagger once phoned Watts’ hotel room in the midst of an all-night party, asking, “Where’s my drummer?” Watts reportedly got up, shaved, dressed in a suit, put on a tie and freshly shined shoes, descended the stairs, and punched Jagger in the face, saying, “Don’t ever call me your drummer again. You’re my **** singer!”
My favorite part is that he shaved and put on a suit and tie before punching Mick in the face.
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Ed Asner, star of TV and movies, dead at age 91. I'm too young to be familiar with Lou Grant, but millions of younger fans know Ed Asner as the voice of main character Carl from Pixar's mega-hit "Up". Asner was still doing voice work for cartoons and video games even this year.
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Lou Grant was the spinoff show that put liberal politics squarely in prime time.
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In the early 1990s, I used to rent and illegally live in a loft in an 1880s era building with a beautiful ornate caged elevator that still employed Max the elevator operator. Ed Asner was filming a movie in the building and gave a signed portrait to Max. It said, "When I go to hell, I want you to take me."
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Norm Macdonald - Dead at 61
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oh my god, this is the worst.
It must have been suicide. :(
Will miss him terribly...
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oh my god, this is the worst.
It must have been suicide. :(
Will miss him terribly...
Cancer.
Terrible. He's a legend.
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His appearance on the View in 2000 was one of the funniest things I ever saw on TV.
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I'm still really sad about Norm.
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Meat Loaf RIP
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No one posted about Bob Saget dying last week, but Meatloaf gets a post.
Weird.
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No one posted about Bob Saget dying last week, but Meatloaf gets a post.
Weird.
You seem to care about Saget - do you think it's weird that you didn't post that ?
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If we care about comedians we should celebrate Louie Anderson 68
RIP
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No one posted about Bob Saget dying last week, but Meatloaf gets a post.
Weird.
No one posted about Betty White either.
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No one posted about Betty White either.
Wow
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Alright well let's get Sydney Portier out of the way too.
Louie Anderson died today as well.
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Alright well let's get Sydney Portier out of the way too.
Louie Anderson died today as well.
see my post 10.52.56
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The first skipper I ever worked for died this week. We fished on a different boat together as well as alongside each other when I bought my own. We worked alongside each other in the bush and running tour boats for different companies. He was 81. I'll miss him.
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Meatloaf now.
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Meatloaf now.
see my post 07.33.04
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Bob Saget’s death seems a bit suspicious. Multiple skull fractures?
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/10/entertainment/bob-saget-cause-of-death-report/index.html
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Bob Saget’s death seems a bit suspicious. Multiple skull fractures?
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/10/entertainment/bob-saget-cause-of-death-report/index.html
Lol so suspicious if you don't read teh article.
"It is in my opinion that the death of Robert Saget, a 65-year-old white male found unresponsive in a hotel room, is the result of blunt head trauma. It is the most probable that the decedent suffered an unwitnessed fall backwards and struck the posterior aspect of his head. The manner of death is accident," the statement from Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Joshua D. Stephany said in his report."
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Lol so suspicious if you don't read teh article.
"It is in my opinion that the death of Robert Saget, a 65-year-old white male found unresponsive in a hotel room, is the result of blunt head trauma. It is the most probable that the decedent suffered an unwitnessed fall backwards and struck the posterior aspect of his head. The manner of death is accident," the statement from Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Joshua D. Stephany said in his report."
Yeah, lots of people I know fracture their skull multiple times without even knowing it! 😂
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Yeah, lots of people I know fracture their skull multiple times without even knowing it! 😂
Your reading comprehension is mostly hindered by your tendency to make really stupid assumptions from the information you're given. Nobody said he didn't know he hit his head; they said he apparently went to bed without realizing the extent of the injury. Also, he didn't fracture his head multiple times; he had multiple fractures. There's a difference. You can get multiple fractures from one incident.
Are you starting to understand now just how disadvantaged you are in these discussions? This is why you always lose.
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Yeah, lots of people I know fracture their skull multiple times without even knowing it! 😂
Stranger things have happened. I mean, it seems to be you've been living with a fairly catastrophic traumatic brain injury for more than a decade.
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Things are getting interesting.
Bob Saget's family seeking to block release of records from his death investigation
https://abcnews.go.com/US/bob-sagets-family-files-lawsuit-block-release-records/story?id=82914716
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Things are getting interesting.
Why do you think this is interesting ?
I see likely reasons: substance use details they don't want out, or keeping celebrity journalists away.
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If you're programmed to spot a conspiracy every time something happens that you don't understand, and if you understand very little, you're going to come up with a lot of conspiracy theories.
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Why do you think this is interesting ?
I see likely reasons: substance use details they don't want out, or keeping celebrity journalists away.
I didn't think about that, you're probably right. I thought maybe foul play might have been involved. That was an awfully bad head injury to have not done anything about.
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I didn't think about that, you're probably right. I thought maybe foul play might have been involved. That was an awfully bad head injury to have not done anything about.
I would guess drunk/stoned and hit his head and went to sleep...
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Former US SoS Madeline Albright has died. Besides being the first woman SoS, she's also known for saying the deaths of deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children resulting from severe economic sanctions was "worth it.” If there's a hell, she's in it, but her death gave us this enduring image:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOo5KOrXwAE_SAV?format=jpg&name=small)
This is the U.S. navy base at Gitmo, a torture facility flying a McDonald's flag at half mast for a dead war criminal. it doesn't get more American than that, baby.
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Goddamnit.
Taylor Hawkins, drummer for Foo Fighters, dead at 50 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/taylor-hawkins-obit-1.6398683)
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Two hockey legends from the seventies and eighties. Bossy and Lafleur. Lafleur is one of the most exiting players I have ever seen. Like Pavel Bure, you just expected something special every time they got the puck. Connor McDavid does it on occasion. Bossy was lower key but maybe the best natural goal scorer of them all. Scored over 50 goals in nine out of his ten seasons and the only reason it wasn't ten out of ten was because of injuries.
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RIP to the great Roger E. Mosley. He was a pilot on television and in real life.
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Lol I had to google that guy, you’re a fuckin boomer shiddy.
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Lol I had to google that guy, you’re a fuckin boomer shiddy.
I love that I live so rent free in your tiny little head that you feel the need to chase me down in threads about dead celebrities! 😂
Regardless, I watched the entire original series of Magnum PI a few years ago and highly recommend it. You realize that you can stream older shows now right? Eh boomer groomer?
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I certainly don't miss the days when TV was written exclusively at a Grade 4 level for stupid people.
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I certainly don't miss the days when TV was written exclusively at a Grade 4 level for stupid people.
It’s Blubber Slimy, Black Douche’s loyal sidekick, right on queue, contributing nothing as usual. 😂
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You might also enjoy Hart to Hart.
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I love that I live so rent free in your tiny little head that you feel the need to chase me down in threads about dead celebrities! 😂
Regardless, I watched the entire original series of Magnum PI a few years ago and highly recommend it. You realize that you can stream older shows now right? Eh boomer groomer?
Whatever keeps you off the c*ld p*rn, I guess.
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Whatever keeps you off the c*ld p*rn, I guess.
As a groomer you'd know all about that.
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Regardless, "If You Love Me (Let Me Know)" and "Let Me Be There" by Olivia Newton-John were practically the same song.
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As a groomer you'd know all about that.
Keep projecting, ****.
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Regardless, "If You Love Me (Let Me Know)" and "Let Me Be There" by Olivia Newton-John were practically the same song.
Let Me Be There whips.
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Let Me Be There whips.
Aww, boomers Blubber Slimy and Black Douche bonding over ONJ. Adorable!
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Aww, boomers Blubber Slimy and Black Douche bonding over ONJ. Adorable!
Shouldn't you be trolling Facebook for shitty memes, loser?
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Shouldn't you be trolling Facebook for shitty memes, loser?
Nah, trolling dirtbags like you is much more entertaining.
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Nah, trolling dirtbags like you is much more entertaining.
Yeah you're really trolling us be being a retard, that's working out as well for you as your crypto investments lol.
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Yeah you're really trolling us be being a retard, that's working out as well for you as your crypto investments lol.
Lol, you’re such a boomer. Whatever you say gramps.
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Lol, you’re such a boomer. Whatever you say gramps.
I can't think of anything more Boomer than losing thousands of dollars in a Ponzi scheme lmao.
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RIP 😢
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I can't think of anything more Boomer than losing thousands of dollars in a Ponzi scheme lmao.
It’s ok that you don’t understand crypto, or blockchain technology. Don’t worry, my grandma also thinks it’s just some dude just prints up coins. Go back to your nap.
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It’s ok that you don’t understand crypto, or blockchain technology. Don’t worry, my grandma also thinks it’s just some dude just prints up coins. Go back to your nap.
I don't need to understand crypto or blockchain to know that you're a rube who is out thousands of dollars lol
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I don't need to understand crypto or blockchain to know that you're a rube who is out thousands of dollars lol
https://www.ibm.com/topics/what-is-blockchain
I’ll let IBM explain it to you since you’re such a retard. You’re like the idiots in 2008 that said investing in the stock market was stooopid. If you’re a long term investor than short term recessions etc aren’t a big deal. Keep collecting your OAS and leave me alone.
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I’ll let IBM explain it to you since you’re such a retard. You’re like the idiots in 2008 that said investing in the stock market was stooopid. If you’re a long term investor than short term recessions etc aren’t a big deal. Keep collecting your OAS and leave me alone.
(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/snakesalesmancrop_8328.jpg)
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It’s ok that you don’t understand crypto, or blockchain technology.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBgaDMj.jpg)
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(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/snakesalesmancrop_8328.jpg)
Boomers hate new technology. You still probably have a VCR with the clock flashing 12:00! 😂😂😂
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Boomers hate new technology. You still probably have a VCR with the clock flashing 12:00! 😂😂😂
Idiots love shiny useless things. You've probably got a Google Glass gathering dust in a cardboard box next to your mattress on the floor.
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Idiots love shiny useless things. You've probably got a Google Glass gathering dust in a cardboard box next to your mattress on the floor.
Don't worry, your mom keeps me company. LOL!
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Google Glass purchase confirmed.
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Google Glass purchase confirmed.
Ditto mattress on floor.
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Ditto mattress on floor.
Ditto your mom! 🤣
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Ditto your mom! 🤣
"When someone uses this emoji (https://twitter.com/maplecocaine/status/1261800592915271682?s=20&t=v8TGv8eAfKoeB0i8MPR9zA)🤣 they are more mad than they have ever been in their entire life"
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"When someone uses this emoji (https://twitter.com/maplecocaine/status/1261800592915271682?s=20&t=v8TGv8eAfKoeB0i8MPR9zA)🤣 they are more mad than they have ever been in their entire life"
Is that what the interwebs tell you?
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Is that what the interwebs tell you?
"Interwebs" usage=Boomer confirmed.
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"Interwebs" usage=Boomer confirmed.
That’s exactly why I used it boomer. You’re not very bright huh? Or you just don’t get when you’re being viciously mocked. Now go fix your VCR! 😂
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That’s exactly why I used it boomer. You’re not very bright huh? Or you just don’t get when you’re being viciously mocked. Now go fix your VCR! 😂
Lol you're straight up fuming now.
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Lol you're straight up fuming now.
I would be, but your mom is really relaxing me.
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I would be, but your mom is really relaxing me.
Low-energy mom jokes straight from the one-room schoolhouse, sad.
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Low-energy mom jokes straight from the one-room schoolhouse, sad.
Just like every domestic chicken hawk and woke progressive degenerate, you can’t take a little of your own medicine.
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What's funny is, all of this, just because I posted about somebody dying. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Just like every domestic chicken hawk and woke progressive degenerate, you can’t take a little of your own medicine.
I can take insults and jokes, you're just, like, really, really bad at it.
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I can take insults and jokes, you're just, like, really, really bad at it.
Still living rent free in your head. Priceless. Keep chasing me from thread to thread. I kinda feel like a celebrity. But the funniest part of all of this, is that you don’t see how bad you’re making yourself look to everyone else in this forum. All because of me. 😁
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Still living rent free in your head. Priceless. Keep chasing me from thread to thread. I kinda feel like a celebrity. But the funniest part of all of this, is that you don’t see how bad you’re making yourself look to everyone else in this forum. All because of me. 😁
You, the resident forum laughingstock that everyone here regards as a barely sentient slime mold, think I’m the one looking bad here? Thats an incredible lack of self awareness even for a walking traumatic brain injury like you lol.
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To summarize, Olivia's version of Dylan's "If Not for You" is perfectly understated and, for me, the definitive cover of that song, topping even George Harrison's.
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Anne Heche is apparently not expected to survive her accident.
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RIP... Tormented gal, it seems... Hard life.
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RIP... Tormented gal, it seems... Hard life.
I imagine the life of the woman whose house was set ablaze by the impact of Heche's car is even more difficult....the news seems to be glossing over the fact that the prosecutors, before she died, said they were exploring the possibility of charges against Heche when/if she got out of the hospital. Ridiculous how celebrities get a pass for things that we wouldn't.
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I imagine the life of the woman whose house was set ablaze by the impact of Heche's car is even more difficult....the news seems to be glossing over the fact that the prosecutors, before she died, said they were exploring the possibility of charges against Heche when/if she got out of the hospital. Ridiculous how celebrities get a pass for things that we wouldn't.
Sure but... we didn't know them so...
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I imagine the life of the woman whose house was set ablaze by the impact of Heche's car is even more difficult....the news seems to be glossing over the fact that the prosecutors, before she died, said they were exploring the possibility of charges against Heche when/if she got out of the hospital. Ridiculous how celebrities get a pass for things that we wouldn't.
I guess as long as you consider dead to be less difficult.
Not much point in laying charges against dead people.
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Jean-Luc Godard: Legendary film director dies at 91 by assisted suicide (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62886470)
Film director Jean-Luc Godard, who spearheaded the revolutionary French New Wave of cinema, has died at 91.
Godard burst onto the scene with 1960's À bout de souffle (Breathless), which started a run of acclaimed releases that rewrote the rules of film and influenced directors from Martin Scorsese to Quentin Tarantino.
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Jean-Luc Godard: Legendary film director dies at 91 by assisted suicide (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62886470)
Never heard of him.
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Never heard of him.
Yeah, I'm not surprised lol.
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Jean-Luc Godard: Legendary film director dies at 91 by assisted suicide (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-62886470)
oh wow... :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Godard_filmography#Feature_films
A giant... we wouldn't have the films we enjoy today without his influence....
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Yeah, I'm not surprised lol.
I’m not a boomer like you.
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I’m not a boomer like you.
You're a boomer brain and a philistine, go back to your video games and Marvel movies, loser.
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You're a boomer brain and a philistine, go back to your video games and Marvel movies, loser.
Video games, yes, marvel comics, no.
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Video games, yes, marvel comics, no.
Too highbrow and hard for you to understand?
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Too highbrow and hard for you to understand?
No, I never really go into comics that much. DC is far superior to Marvel though.
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No, I never really go into comics that much. DC is far superior to Marvel though.
Do you have a single opinion that isn't total dogshit?
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Do you have a single opinion that isn't total dogshit?
Anyone that knows anything about comics agrees that DC is superior. Novices and children usually prefer Marvel, until they get older and/or more experience.
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Anyone that knows anything about comics agrees that DC is superior. Novices and children usually prefer Marvel, until they get older and/or more experience.
How do you have the cultural tastes of a toddler and the political views of a boomer?
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How do you have the cultural views of a toddler and the political views of a boomer?
My cultural and political views are pretty much mainstream. But if you think that Marvel has anything as good as Justice League, be my guest.
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My cultural and political views are pretty much mainstream.
Yeah, pedestrian and sh!tty.
But if you think that Marvel has anything as good as Justice League, be my guest.
The movie?
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Yeah, pedestrian and sh!tty.
The movie?
Projection.
Anything, movie, cartoon, comic, etc.
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Projection.
LOL another term you don't understand the meaning of.
Anything, movie, cartoon, comic, etc.
The X-Men have always been far more interesting than the JLA.
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Ken Starr finally dead...and literally no one cares.
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Ken Starr finally dead...and literally no one cares.
That all these evil shitheads get to die peacefully at a ripe old age is the strongest evidence not of the absence of god, but the existence of a malign entity.
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Ken Starr finally dead...and literally no one cares.
Lots of people hate Ken Starr for the partisan harassment of Bill Clinton in the 1990s.
But not enough people hate Ken Starr for trying to cover up for rapist football players at Baylor University just a few years ago. A true piece of dogshit!
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Toronto's Elias Theodorou passed away from liver cancer this week, at just 34 years old. Theodorou kept his cancer secret, and his death came completely out of the blue.
Best known as an MMA fighter (19 wins-3 losses, including an 8 win-3 loss tenure in UFC), Theodorou was also an actor, a stuntman, a model, a dancer, and a Harlequin Romance cover model! Theodorou also campaigned successfully to relax rules regarding recreational marijuana use for professional athletes.
Kind of like with Chadwick Boseman, it's a shock when somebody so young passes away of natural causes, especially when it's somebody who outwardly looks so strong and healthy.
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RIP Coolio
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Pharoah Sanders. Among the last of the giants. Just Sonny Rollins left.
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RIP to the Coal Miner's Daughter, Loretta Lynn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5iQDZm9jbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcdONaKSQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9FdAISS-YM
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RIP Angela Landsbury (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/11/angela-lansbury-star-of-tv-film-and-theatre-dies-aged-96)
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RIP Angela Landsbury (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/11/angela-lansbury-star-of-tv-film-and-theatre-dies-aged-96)
Nooooooo!
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Rich Little...is still alive. Not many guests from the Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts can say that. Ruth Buzzi could but she had a stroke a few weeks ago and can't speak
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WHAAAAAAAAAT
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Robbie Coltrane RIP
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63261204.amp
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"The Killer" dead at 87.
It's amazing he lived that long.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jerry-lee-lewis-obit-1.6633127
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"The Killer" dead at 87.
It's amazing he lived that long.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jerry-lee-lewis-obit-1.6633127
An incestuous **** and likely wife murderer but he could sure play.
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Borje Salming passed away.
The Leafs gave him a very touching ceremony last week before a game. It was neat to see.
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Christine McVie....
Fleetwood Mac, that rare level of commercial artist that transcends commercialism itself to create true pop art.
RIP
https://variety.com/2022/music/news/christine-mcvie-dead-fleetwood-mac-singer-songwriter-1235445846/
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Christine McVie....
Fleetwood Mac, that rare level of commercial artist that transcends commercialism itself to create true pop art.
RIP
https://variety.com/2022/music/news/christine-mcvie-dead-fleetwood-mac-singer-songwriter-1235445846/
So sad. Arguably the most talented in a true super group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miwHh9X9sCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLRyYETnoIE
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Not a flashy singer but really, really good.
Also, Aline Kominsky-Crumb, who will eternally be known as Robert Crumb's wife. But she did some interesting comics of her own, although she lacked her husband's drawing talent.
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The first celebrity I ever met in person, Bob McGrath.
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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/12/05/actor-kirstie-alley-dies-at-71/
Kirstie Allley RIP
(https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2016/09/12/NYET131-15_2015_190641_hd-768x537.jpg)
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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/12/05/actor-kirstie-alley-dies-at-71/
Kirstie Allley RIP
(https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2016/09/12/NYET131-15_2015_190641_hd-768x537.jpg)
That’s sad news. Watching re-runs of Cheers again recently was a lot of fun.
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The first celebrity I ever met in person, Bob McGrath.
They say he was every bit as nice in person as on stage.
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Twitch. Suicide at 40. WTF, this really sucks.
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Former guitarist with the Yardbirds, Lisa-Marie Presley...or something
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Elvis slept with his mother until age 13, then with Priscilla from age 14.
There wasn't sex in either case.
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Priscilla was 14. He was much older.
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Priscilla was 14. He was much older.
oops - misread a bio.... Sigmus Freudley...
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Extremely cool time we live in in which every time someone famous or otherwise dies or experiences a medical emergency, the antivaxxers come out of the woodwork to harrass the families. We really should have put them in camps like they said we would.
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If they're going to scream authoritarian fascism all the time, they would probably appreciate something real to scream about
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If they're going to scream authoritarian fascism all the time, they would probably appreciate something real to scream about
Of course, god forbid anyone asking questions about so many younger people suddenly dying, particularly of heart issues. Clapping seals keep clapping.
https://youtu.be/8S_0MWqOkCE
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Of course, god forbid anyone asking questions about so many younger people suddenly dying, particularly of heart issues. Clapping seals keep clapping.
https://youtu.be/8S_0MWqOkCE
Can you cite data that backs up your claim that more young people than usual are dying of heart issues?
Also, Christine McVie can in no way be described as "younger."
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https://youtu.be/xqnCz_PD6Pk
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https://youtu.be/xqnCz_PD6Pk
Lol that fuckin guy again? The nurse who keeps being wrong about everything? lol lmao.
Get better stuff needlecuck.
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Ah, you mean the excess deaths caused by covid, which you tried to pretend was nothing worse than a cold.
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/all-cause-mortality-among-young-us-adults-rose-nearly-20-during-the-pandemic
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Ah, you mean the excess deaths caused by covid, which you tried to pretend was nothing worse than a cold.
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/all-cause-mortality-among-young-us-adults-rose-nearly-20-during-the-pandemic
No. The excess deaths specifically not caused by covid. You really do have a learning disability.
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No. The excess deaths specifically not caused by covid. You really do have a learning disability.
Like murders and car accidents?
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Who is UK dude ?
No creds, no introduction. within 1 minute he cites stats without providing a source or telling us where to find his footnotes...
I think I wasted that minute...
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😂😂😂
Increased risk of stroke. You know, if these vaccines still weren’t being fast tracked on emergency authorization, and would go through the pre-covid trial system, these issues wouldn’t be a problem.
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Your link doesn't work. Is that because you don't want scrutiny of your claims?
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😂😂😂
Increased risk of stroke. You know, if these vaccines still weren’t being fast tracked on emergency authorization, and would go through the pre-covid trial system, these issues wouldn’t be a problem.
The vaccine you took to go to the gym lmao
Oh and the “certain people” for whom the CDC says it’s a concern are people 65 and older, so much for your “the vaccine is killing young people” theory, shithead.
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😂😂😂
Increased risk of stroke. You know, if these vaccines still weren’t being fast tracked on emergency authorization, and would go through the pre-covid trial system, these issues wouldn’t be a problem.
(Attachment Link)
Is there a reputable news source for said claims? Or is it just FOX?
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https://youtu.be/xqnCz_PD6Pk
Any quack doctor can make a YouTube video.
All one has to do, is Google Dr. Jack Campbell to see that he is pushing the harmful drug Ivermectin, even though it was completely ineffective in treating COVID. I may as well throw on some hospital scrubs, and present myself as a GP, and do my own YouTube videos.
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Geeno, Geeno.
An all time favourite Canuck and all round great human being. A sad day for Canuck fans.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/beloved-former-canuck-gino-odjick-dies-at-52-1.6231859
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David Crosby of the Byrds and Crosby, Stills and Nash (and Young) dead at 81 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/david-crosby-obit-1.6719892)
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"The Golden Jet" Bobby Hull is dead.
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"The Golden Jet" Bobby Hull is dead.
(https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/photos/288896884/768x768/cut.jpg)
RIP, Bobby.
You did so much for professional hockey in the 70s, and the Winnipeg Jets would not exist without you.
However, that did not stop a few cuckolds, and woke idiots from Winnipeg, bringing up your domestic incident from the late 70s.
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The first million dollar player.
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RIP, Bobby.
You did so much for professional hockey in the 70s, and the Winnipeg Jets would not exist without you.
However, that did not stop a few cuckolds, and woke idiots from Winnipeg, bringing up your domestic incident from the late 70s.
IncidentS, plural.
In 1987 Hull pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer who tried to intervene in a domestic dispute between the famed skater and his third wife, Deborah. Deborah Hull never pressed charges against her husband.
In 2002, his second wife, Joanne, told an ESPN SportsCentury documentary what Hull had allegedly done to her on a trip to Hawaii in 1966. In it, she said: "He took my shoe — with a steel heel — and proceeded to hit me in the head. I was covered with blood. And I can remember him holding me over the balcony and I thought this is the end, I'm going." Hull was never charged.
"Sure he was a wife beater and allegedly praised Hitler, but look at what he did for hockey in Winnipeg!"
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I once had 30 Bobby Hull autographs (probably still do somewhere downstairs). He would always make sure every kid got one as he walked out after a game.
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IncidentS, plural.
"Sure he was a wife beater and allegedly praised Hitler, but look at what he did for hockey in Winnipeg!"
^This is what I am talking about, in a nutshell.
People in Winnipeg and other cities are well aware of Hull's domestic incident(s). That was 40 years ago. DO you have any idea how many professional athletes have checkered pasts? I'm not saying it is right, but what is the point of making Hull out to be the Antichrist for bad things he did in the late 70s/early 80s?
As for the Hitler comments, they are relatively tame, compared to what any GOP member or a sizeable portion of the American public thinks about Asians, Mexicans, or Muslims. Hull did say that "Hitler had some good ideas, but went too far." In comparison to what has been said in the last decade by politicians, that's pretty tame. He certainly is not at the Kanye West level. Or even the Donald Trump level.
Can you people at least....maybe wait for 72 hours, considering his family, friends, and fans are probably mourning him, and shouldn't be viewing a bunch of oddball keyboard warriors making him out to be Joseph Stalin.
Honestly, what kind of sick **** get off with news of an old 84 year old man dying? It says more about others than it does Hull
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On that note, the greatest goal scorer of the past 20 years is a Putin apologist, and supports his invasion into Ukraine. Yet hardly a peep from the media.
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(https://preview.redd.it/hockey-player-bobby-hull-doing-some-offseason-training-on-v0-xrd4w99t2im91.jpg?auto=webp&s=851ca75fe9a476a030a8ca262f31e849ee3b2a0d)
Bobby Hull circa 1966.
The man was jakked.
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Well, you know... there IS a kind of 'revenge of the cradle thing happening these days.
Young people (and by this I mean UNDER 40) have zero reverence for our gods and will gladly tear them down.
John A MacDonald and Eggerton Ryerson are road bumps - why do you think they would give a toss about Bobby Hull, David Bowie or John Lennon ?
Does it matter ? Maybe. But not universally and not to them.
So an outfit like ESPN knows this. I mean, the people who work there are likely interns making minimum wage, the people who actually write this stuff. So that's what you are going to get.
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^This is what I am talking about, in a nutshell.
People in Winnipeg and other cities are well aware of Hull's domestic incident(s). That was 40 years ago. DO you have any idea how many professional athletes have checkered pasts? I'm not saying it is right, but what is the point of making Hull out to be the Antichrist for bad things he did in the late 70s/early 80s?
As for the Hitler comments, they are relatively tame, compared to what any GOP member or a sizeable portion of the American public thinks about Asians, Mexicans, or Muslims. Hull did say that "Hitler had some good ideas, but went too far." In comparison to what has been said in the last decade by politicians, that's pretty tame. He certainly is not at the Kanye West level. Or even the Donald Trump level.
If this is trolling, very nice. If it's genuine, give your head a shake.
Can you people at least....maybe wait for 72 hours, considering his family, friends, and fans are probably mourning him, and shouldn't be viewing a bunch of oddball keyboard warriors making him out to be Joseph Stalin.
Honestly, what kind of sick **** get off with news of an old 84 year old man dying? It says more about others than it does Hull
Weird to cry about disrespecting his memory when you brought up his history of beating the crap out of his wives, not me.
On that note, the greatest goal scorer of the past 20 years is a Putin apologist, and supports his invasion into Ukraine. Yet hardly a peep from the media.
I'm not going to waste time linking to all of them but there have been dozens of takes on this in the media.
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^This is what I am talking about, in a nutshell.
People in Winnipeg and other cities are well aware of Hull's domestic incident(s). That was 40 years ago. DO you have any idea how many professional athletes have checkered pasts? I'm not saying it is right, but what is the point of making Hull out to be the Antichrist for bad things he did in the late 70s/early 80s?
As for the Hitler comments, they are relatively tame, compared to what any GOP member or a sizeable portion of the American public thinks about Asians, Mexicans, or Muslims. Hull did say that "Hitler had some good ideas, but went too far." In comparison to what has been said in the last decade by politicians, that's pretty tame. He certainly is not at the Kanye West level. Or even the Donald Trump level.
Can you people at least....maybe wait for 72 hours, considering his family, friends, and fans are probably mourning him, and shouldn't be viewing a bunch of oddball keyboard warriors making him out to be Joseph Stalin.
Honestly, what kind of sick **** get off with news of an old 84 year old man dying? It says more about others than it does Hull
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On that note, the greatest goal scorer of the past 20 years is a Putin apologist, and supports his invasion into Ukraine. Yet hardly a peep from the media.
You’re asking a bag of sh*t to be decent.
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Coolio: Hull beat his wife.
Bubber: I have autographs!
Black Dog: Sure, but look what he did for hockey.
Coolio: How dare you say Hull beat his wife!
Shady: I have no idea what's going on but black dog makes fun of me for being stupid.
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Coolio: Hull beat his wife.
Bubber: I have autographs!
Black Dog: Sure, but look what he did for hockey.
[Coolio: How dare you say Hull beat his wife!
Shady: I have no idea what's going on but black dog makes fun of me for being stupid.
I think you may want to reread the last couple of pages of posts...lol.
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If this is trolling, very nice. If it's genuine, give your head a shake.
What's the point of calling me a troll, without elaborating on how you consider me a troll?
Enlighten us.
Now I didn't know Bobby Hull, and for all I know maybe he never changed. However, in nearly 40 years, he was free of legal issues. Woke Dog, if you seriously think Hull should be sent to hell for some insensitive comments to a Moscow newspaper, then you should check yourself into a psychiatric ward.
When Kobe Bryant died in a plane crash in 2020, women came out of the woodwork, and went on about his **** case nearly 20 years earlier. It was a horrible thing, and IIRC Bryant cut a deal to avoid legal problems by paying the victim off and apologising. After the incident, he grew as a person, started a family, became a model citizen, and was a great father.
I'm not defending Kobe for what he did, and perhaps he should have been punished with jail time. However, this "you did something bad 22 years ago, so there will be no forgiveness, and you will burn in hell" mentality does nothing for society. Ever hear of forgiveness?
Or is your life so miserable that even when an old man dies, you have to **** on him? It leads me to believe that you are deflecting somewhat. Maybe there are skeletons in your closet, Woke Dog. This is one of the problems with the left. It's always Woke people going after (usually) White males, and have this obsession with "cancelling" them. You are the kind of person that drives people to the GOP.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Z6Uj6S5eL._AC_SX569_.jpg)
I think I may need to put this leash on you, because you are one out of control K-9!
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What's the point of calling me a troll, without elaborating on how you consider me a troll?
Enlighten us.
Now I didn't know Bobby Hull, and for all I know maybe he never changed. However, in nearly 40 years, he was free of legal issues. Woke Dog, if you seriously think Hull should be sent to hell for some insensitive comments to a Moscow newspaper, then you should check yourself into a psychiatric ward.
When Kobe Bryant died in a plane crash in 2020, women came out of the woodwork, and went on about his **** case nearly 20 years earlier. It was a horrible thing, and IIRC Bryant cut a deal to avoid legal problems by paying the victim off and apologising. After the incident, he grew as a person, started a family, became a model citizen, and was a great father.
I'm not defending Kobe for what he did, and perhaps he should have been punished with jail time. However, this "you did something bad 22 years ago, so there will be no forgiveness, and you will burn in hell" mentality does nothing for society. Ever hear of forgiveness?
Or is your life so miserable that even when an old man dies, you have to **** on him? It leads me to believe that you are deflecting somewhat. Maybe there are skeletons in your closet, Woke Dog. This is one of the problems with the left. It's always Woke people going after (usually) White males, and have this obsession with "cancelling" them. You are the kind of person that drives people to the GOP.
Sh*t bags always call others trolls, as it’s part of their trolling. I’ve learned recently not to feed the trolls.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Williams
Cindy Williams, 75
RIP
...and I had the best Bobby Hull post 😉
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Erin Moran, Penny Marshall, Cindy Williams...but Marion Ross is going strong.
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What's the point of calling me a troll, without elaborating on how you consider me a troll?
Enlighten us.
Now I didn't know Bobby Hull, and for all I know maybe he never changed. However, in nearly 40 years, he was free of legal issues. Woke Dog, if you seriously think Hull should be sent to hell for some insensitive comments to a Moscow newspaper, then you should check yourself into a psychiatric ward.
When Kobe Bryant died in a plane crash in 2020, women came out of the woodwork, and went on about his **** case nearly 20 years earlier. It was a horrible thing, and IIRC Bryant cut a deal to avoid legal problems by paying the victim off and apologising. After the incident, he grew as a person, started a family, became a model citizen, and was a great father.
I'm not defending Kobe for what he did, and perhaps he should have been punished with jail time. However, this "you did something bad 22 years ago, so there will be no forgiveness, and you will burn in hell" mentality does nothing for society. Ever hear of forgiveness?
Or is your life so miserable that even when an old man dies, you have to **** on him? It leads me to believe that you are deflecting somewhat. Maybe there are skeletons in your closet, Woke Dog. This is one of the problems with the left. It's always Woke people going after (usually) White males, and have this obsession with "cancelling" them. You are the kind of person that drives people to the GOP.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Z6Uj6S5eL._AC_SX569_.jpg)
I think I may need to put this leash on you, because you are one out of control K-9!
Is your name IMAX because the projection here is huge.
You brought up Hull being a wife beater. I pointed out it wasn’t a one off, and you come back with this word vomit? Unhinged behaviour tbh.
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Erin Moran, Penny Marshall, Cindy Williams...but Marion Ross is going strong.
Because she was the hottest one.
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It was kind of creepy how Fonzie got her wet, but it was a pleasant sort of creepy.
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It was kind of creepy how Fonzie got her wet, but it was a pleasant sort of creepy.
WHAT
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What? You never watched Happy Days?
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What? You never watched Happy Days?
I recall Happy Days reruns on WDAZ-TV (ABC affiliate from Grand Forks, ND) weekday afternoons in the 80s. The original run was before my time. Even in the mid 80s, I can't really remember too many details of the show.
Weezer had an excellent video called "Buddy Holly" in 1994, based on the show.
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Low-signal KTHI was the ABC affiliate, but ABC was doing so well, NBC affiliate WDAZ (Grand Forks)/WDAY (Fargo) enticed ABC with their more powerful signal. Then NBC went to KTHI and also went from the bottom of the pack in ratings to the top with Cheers and Cosby, etc.
KXJB stayed CBS the whole time.
WDIV was when Winnipeg was getting the Detroit signal and subsequently discovered drive-by shootings.
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What? You never watched Happy Days?
Did she actually say that about her.. nethers?
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I doubt it, although I didn't see every episode.
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Low-signal KTHI was the ABC affiliate, but ABC was doing so well, NBC affiliate WDAZ (Grand Forks)/WDAY (Fargo) enticed ABC with their more powerful signal. Then NBC went to KTHI and also went from the bottom of the pack in ratings to the top with Cheers and Cosby, etc.
KXJB stayed CBS the whole time.
WDIV was when Winnipeg was getting the Detroit signal and subsequently discovered drive-by shootings.
Oops, you are partially correct. I mixed up WDIV (detroit) with WDAZ (Grand Forks). However, WDAZ became the ABC affiliate in August 1983.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDAZ-TV
In Winnipeg, we used to get the Minneapolis affiliates for NBC and CBS, but the quality was often grainy. So in 1986, Winnipeg started to carry the Detroit channels, which were of much better quality. WDIV was the NBC affiliate, and WJBK was the CBS affiliate, IIRC. By the early 1990s, there was concern about how the Detroit stations were influencing gang activity in Winnipeg, as the news and other local programming often had gang related crime and shootings.
A decision was made by 1994 to stop carrying the Detroit channels. In it's place we had a Toledo replacement and a Minneapolis replacement, before both NBC and CBS feeds were acquired from Minneapolis. I first heard of "Devil's Night" - the day before Halloween, as it was called in Detroit, as a night people would commit petty criminal acts, and arson. I recall in one year during the early 90s, hundreds of abandoned homes in the inner city were torched, causing millions in damage.
Unsure if Winnipeg had a night like this before the Detroit channels aired here, but for a couple of years in my late teens, we bought eggs, and at the restaurant I used to work in, a bunch of cooked potatoes, and would launch them at buses, and other vehicles, for fun on October 30.
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Devil's night? Maybe "Gate Night" belongs in my local language culture thread.
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Now that Wednesday died and Pugsley died in 2014, John Aston is the last surviving cast member of the Addams Family.
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Devil's night? Maybe "Gate Night" belongs in my local language culture thread.
Eminem and his group D12 named an album after Davils Night.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/415yzx6zZmL._AC_.jpg)
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Devil's night? Maybe "Gate Night" belongs in my local language culture thread.
Devils night in Detroit is a thing of the past. Most abandoned building have been removed, and nothing much happens anymore.
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I was rather a jerk on Gate Night 1980.
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Burt Bacharach RIP ...
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Burt Bacharach RIP ...
You could have told me he died 20 years ago and I would have just nodded.
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RAQUEL WELCH :(
https://www.tmz.com/2023/02/15/raquel-welch-actress-model-dead-dies-82/
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RAQUEL WELCH :(
https://www.tmz.com/2023/02/15/raquel-welch-actress-model-dead-dies-82/
Nooooooo
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Richard Belzer was never as pretty as Raquel Welch but now he is dead too. I was always impressed by how quickly he jumped up and went to commercial break after Hulk Hogan knocked him out cold and let him fall on his head.
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Rowdy Man. Gorden Pinset gone at 92. A Newfie and Canadian treasure.
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RIP Lance Riddick (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/mar/20/lance-reddick-obituary) of The Wire and John Wick.
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The one that I felt recently was the death of Gary Rossington, the last original member of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Rossington was one of several guitarists in the band, and while I'm not sure which notes belong to which musician, I have read that Rossington was the one who played the slide guitar in "Free Bird".
As such he's probably one of the people most responsible for inspiring me to buy a musical instrument and learn to play. And while I really suck at it, I can at least say that learning to play has increased my appreciation for music. So thanks for that, Gary.
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Red Robinson. A radio pioneer and BC legend.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/red-robinson-rock-n-roll-hall-of-famer-and-legendary-vancouver-dj-has-died-1.6339241
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/red-robinson
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RIP Ian Bairnson.
Responsible for one of the finest 90 seconds or so in the history of music. The solo at the end of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9RNQnRqPU
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Barry Humphries AKA Dame Edna and others.
Such a funny guy, he would probably be banned in some red states.
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RIP Ian Bairnson.
Responsible for one of the finest 90 seconds or so in the history of music. The solo at the end of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9RNQnRqPU
That is indeed a lovely piece of music. :)
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Harry Belafonte, legendary performer and activist, dead at 96 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/obit-harry-belafonte-1.6821464)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuukghtX0AY5lpz?format=jpg&name=large)
Talk show host Jerry Springer passes away at 79.
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They need a "meh" emoji.
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The world is probably a better place today without the likes of Gerry Springer. It probably should’ve happened 30 years ago.
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The world is probably a better place today without the likes of Gerry Springer. It probably should’ve happened 30 years ago.
It was trash TV for blue collar people. However, wishing him death is a wee bit over the top.
I can think of many people that if they were to die, society would be better off. Springer is not that list.
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The woman who got Emmett Till brutally murdered has died after living far too long. (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/27/us/carolyn-bryant-donham-emmett-till/index.html)
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Harry Belafonte, legendary performer and activist, dead at 96 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/obit-harry-belafonte-1.6821464)
Harry Belafonte's Christmas songs were an essential part of Christmas in our house when I was young. There was no Christmas without Harry Belafonte.
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Gordon Lightfoot has passed away.
Absolute legend.
https://youtu.be/bAedY3NucEs
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Gordon Lightfoot has passed away.
Absolute legend.
https://youtu.be/bAedY3NucEs
Ah goddammit
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I saw him in the 80s only that time.
His music was of an era, and I miss all of it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvFl5BAWYAQ2Oqw?format=jpg)
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Gord keep our land glorious and free
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Tina :'(
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/entertainment/tina-turner-death/index.html
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Tina :'(
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/entertainment/tina-turner-death/index.html
Oh No!
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Pat robertson, 93, rip
Only the Good die Young they say, Billy Joel
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/us/pat-robertson-death/index.html
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The Iron Sheik. 🥲
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Pat robertson, 93, rip
Only the Good die Young they say, Billy Joel
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/us/pat-robertson-death/index.html
RIP Bozo
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Pat robertson, 93, rip
Only the Good die Young they say, Billy Joel
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/us/pat-robertson-death/index.html
No big loss.
OK God. Now do Trump and Tucker Carlson.
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No big loss.
OK God. Now do Trump and Tucker Carlson.
As long as he does Trudeau first!
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No big loss.
OK God. Now do Trump and Tucker Carlson.
Meh. Tucker is irrelevant now and Trump is doing good work destroying the GOP and making it unelectable for the foreseeable future.
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Teddy K.
The Anti-Steve Jobs
https://abcnews.go.com/US/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-found-dead-jail-cell/story?id=99984583
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Teddy K.
The Anti-Steve Jobs
https://abcnews.go.com/US/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-found-dead-jail-cell/story?id=99984583
I hope he didn't suffer too little.
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Silvio Berlusconi is off to the big bunga bunga party in hell. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/silvio-berlusconi-former-italian-prime-minister-dead-at-86-1.6873214)
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John Romita.
Sh!t. Nobody drew Spiderman as well as John Romita. Even Steve Ditko.
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Treat Williams.
Motorcycle accident.
Wasn't exactly an A-list actor, although he did have a few award nominations, and appeared in a few critically acclaimed movies (as well as a lot of stright-to-video stuff.)
Favorite movie of his is probably Deep Rising. Have the DVD and everything.
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Glenda Jackson.
Two time Oscar winner and 23 years a Labour MP in the UK.
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Glenda Jackson.
Two time Oscar winner and 23 years a Labour MP in the UK.
I mainly remember her from the BBC mini series Elizabeth R.
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RIP queen.
Sue Johanson, beloved Canadian sex educator, dead at 93
(https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/sue-johanson-obit-1.6892524)
Sue Johanson, the beloved Canadian broadcaster who in her golden years enraptured a generation with straightforward sex advice, is dead at 93, a representative confirmed to CBC News on Thursday.
Johanson died in a long-term care home in Thornhill, Ont., just north of Toronto, surrounded by her family, the representative said.
The broadcaster was best known for hosting the Canadian call-in radio and then television program Sunday Night Sex Show, which led to a successful U.S. spinoff called Talk Sex With Sue Johanson.
Born in Toronto, Johanson began her career as a nurse, receiving her training in Winnipeg. During the 1970s, she opened a birth control clinic at her daughter Jane's high school and ran it for almost two decades.
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Alan Arkin. He made every movie he was in better.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alan-arkin-dead-little-miss-sunshine-1235526918/
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Alan Arkin. He made every movie he was in better.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alan-arkin-dead-little-miss-sunshine-1235526918/
I read his book. He was amazing...
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The Iron Sheik.
REMEMBER THE LEGEND FOREVER
Teddy K.
The Anti-Steve Jobs
https://abcnews.go.com/US/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-found-dead-jail-cell/story?id=99984583
TED KAZINSKY I NEVER RESPECT YOU YOU ARE THE BIGGEST JABRONI THEY SHOULD CALL YOU JABRONIBOMBER
Tina :'(
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/entertainment/tina-turner-death/index.html
TINA I LOVE YOU FOREVER YOU ARE THE REAL LEGEND TINA LIKE THE SONG SAY YOU ARE SIMPLY THE BEST
Pat robertson, 93, rip
Only the Good die Young they say, Billy Joel
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/us/pat-robertson-death/index.html
PAT ROBERTSON YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE PAT PATTERSON IF I SEE YOU IN AFTERLIFE I SWEAR TO THE JESUS I SUPLEX YOU STRAIGHT INTO NEXT AFTERLIFE PAT ROBERTSON I PUT YOU IN CAMEL CLUTCH BREAK YOUR NECK YOU DUMB SON OF A B!TCH GO FVCK YOURSELF FOREVER
Silvio Berlusconi is off to the big bunga bunga party in hell. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/silvio-berlusconi-former-italian-prime-minister-dead-at-86-1.6873214)
OH NO THE BERLUSCONE IS DIED WHAT A SHOCK HOW SAD NOBODY GIVES A FVCK
Treat Williams.
Motorcycle accident.
Wasn't exactly an A-list actor, although he did have a few award nominations, and appeared in a few critically acclaimed movies (as well as a lot of stright-to-video stuff.)
Favorite movie of his is probably Deep Rising. Have the DVD and everything.
I BE HONEST WITH YOU BUBBA I DONT KNOW WHO THIS IS
RIP queen.
Sue Johanson, beloved Canadian sex educator, dead at 93
(https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/sue-johanson-obit-1.6892524)
FERNANDO IF THERE SOMETHING IN THE AIR THAT NIGHT THE STARS SO BRIGHT IT MEAN SHE WANT TO HAVE THE SEX WITH YOU YOU DUMB SON OF A B!TCH
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/21/entertainment/tony-bennett-dead-at-96/index.html
Tony Bennett
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Sinead O'Conner died today by suicide. She was 56.
O'Connor's career never recovered from ripping a picture of the Pope up on SNL in 1992. What is ironic, is she was vindicated decades later after sex scandals nearly destroyed the Church in America and Europe. O'Connor battled mental health problems for most of her life. She lost the will to live, after her son committed suicide in early 2022. She had repeatedly stated that she had no reason to live, and wanted to join him.
RIP.
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Estelle Parsons is still alive , but I enjoyed her work as Blanche Hefner on All in the Family.
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RIP Paul Reubens (aka Pee Wee Herman) (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/31/entertainment/paul-reubens-dead/index.html)
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Sinead O'Conner died today by suicide. She was 56.
O'Connor's career never recovered from ripping a picture of the Pope up on SNL in 1992. What is ironic, is she was vindicated decades later after sex scandals nearly destroyed the Church in America and Europe. O'Connor battled mental health problems for most of her life. She lost the will to live, after her son committed suicide in early 2022. She had repeatedly stated that she had no reason to live, and wanted to join him.
RIP.
I read a quote from her where she said something along the lines of "no, it didn't ruin my career. It might have ruined the career of some guy at the record company. But I kept on singing and performing." Those weren't the exact words she used, but that was the gist of it. She loved singing and performing for live audiences. How many records she sold or how much money the record company made off of her wasn't that big of a concern to her.
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RIP Sixto Rodriguez.
Searching for Sugarman is well worth a watch.
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**** man, Robbie Robertson now.
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Found this when I was looking on YouTube for The Weight. Awesome. RIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ
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Found this when I was looking on YouTube for The Weight. Awesome. RIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1GU1qQ1zQ
Wow! Thanks for that.
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One of the best to ever do it. RIP RJ (https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-rj-rick-jeanneret-obituary-august-17-2023-play-by-play-hall-of-fame/c-345617864).
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/entertainment/bob-barker-death/index.html
Bob Barker
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/26/entertainment/bob-barker-death/index.html
Bob Barker
I was hoping he would hit the century mark. As a kid, if I ever had a school day off, or was sick, I would always watch the Price is Right in the morning.
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He was great, but I was more of a Dennis James guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_James
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He was great, but I was more of a Dennis James guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_James
who? lol.
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I'm a George Fenneman guy. He was great with Groucho on You Bet Your Life.
He's dead too. But not freshly dead.
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who? lol.
Hosted the night time edition in the 1970s.. back when it was a half hour long..
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TBH I hadn't realized that he was still alive.
I never had much chance to watch The Price Is Right, but for me Bob Barker was the best part of the only good Adam Sandler comedy, Happy Gilmour.
"The Price is WRONG, b!tch!"
I took a day off work last week, and when a co-worker asked what was up, I told him "it's Bob Barker time", as we were getting our puppy spayed. Now I feel as though the gods may have misheard me and said "yes, it is true. It IS Bob Barker's time." I fear this is all my fault.
One final trombone salute for Bob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
(Remember to get your pet spayed or neutered, as Bob would have wanted.)
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Jimmy Buffet now.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jimmy-buffett-margaritaville-singer-obituary-1.6955679
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Seriously where is this going to end??
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Seriously where is this going to end??
It's just the beginning. With all the baby boomers either in their 70s, or approaching it, the celebrity deaths of popular culture icons of the 60s and 70s will accelerate.
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It's just the beginning. With all the baby boomers either in their 70s, or approaching it, the celebrity deaths of popular culture icons of the 60s and 70s will accelerate.
But they won't ALL die.. ?
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Jimmy Buffet now.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/jimmy-buffett-margaritaville-singer-obituary-1.6955679
Vaxxed?
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Everybody talks about a new world in the morning.
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Joe Matt. I still have copies of Peepshow in my basement from the early 1990s when Toronto was a hip alternative comics mecca with him and Seth and Chester Brown. It was his collection of 1920s Gasoline Alley strips that were used to create the Walt and Skeezix series by Drawn and Quarterly, which changed my life.
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Oh? I was into alternative comics a little..
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Tupac died but...
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/09/29/man-connected-to-suspected-shooter-in-tupac-1996-killing-arrested-in-las-vegas/
THEY ARRESTED A SUSPECT !
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Tupac died?
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Tupac died?
Nah he’s living in Cuba.
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Tupac died but...
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/09/29/man-connected-to-suspected-shooter-in-tupac-1996-killing-arrested-in-las-vegas/
THEY ARRESTED A SUSPECT !
Justice!
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Joyce Randolph (Trixie on the Honeymooners) is still alive.
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RIP Chicago Bears great Dick Butkus.
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Still two Dionne quintuplets left. Just twins now though.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9kRzIZWIAAAbnZ?format=jpg&name=large)
"Friends" star Matthew Perry drowns in a hot tub. So sad. I guess he lost the battle with his personal demons.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9kRzIZWIAAAbnZ?format=jpg&name=large)
"Friends" star Matthew Perry drowns in a hot tub. So sad. I guess he lost the battle with his personal demons.
That’s terrible. Selfishly I was hoping there’d be some kind of Friends reunion show, reboot etc in the future.
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Pretty unexpected. All his millions... Gone with 30 years to go... 😔
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And yet Keanu Reeves still walks among us
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And yet Keanu Reeves still walks among us
What's wrong with Keanu?
Personally I can't believe Andy Dick is still alive.
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What's wrong with Keanu?
Matthew Perry tried to make a joke but forgot people don't like jokes anymore.
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/matthew-perry-keanu-reeves-removed-from-memoir-controversy-1235591837/
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Henry Kissinger. About fuckin time. Burn in hell.
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I was having a rough day today too. Just what I needed for a little pick me up.
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At least Kissinger had a good life, and became a centurian.
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Sadly, by comparison, Shane MacGowan. Saw the Pogues once around 1989 in Montreal opening for the Violent Femmes, who had a very hard time maintaining the energy in the building after the Pogues set.
Shane seemed very drunk.
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Henry Kissinger. About fuckin time. Burn in hell.
Not talking about you here so much, but I feel weirdly suspicious of the antipathy thrown at Kissinger whenever his name is brought up by some.
Sure, he bombed millions of civilians, and befriended despots. But was he that bad a guy?
Of course I'm being silly... Let me reframe this. The way he is called out seems to exclude the political and geopolitical realities of his time. Nobody at that time had qualms about bombing foreigners, even if the UN had mandated against it.
And was Cambodia directly bombed or were these collateral? I'm asking. Sincerely,
I just find it. Strange that people seem to call him out when there are people who walk among us today of a similar moral fiber.
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At least Kissinger had a good life, and became a centurian.
Centenarion
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Not talking about you here so much, but I feel weirdly suspicious of the antipathy thrown at Kissinger whenever his name is brought up by some.
Sure, he bombed millions of civilians, and befriended despots. But was he that bad a guy?
Of course I'm being silly... Let me reframe this. The way he is called out seems to exclude the political and geopolitical realities of his time. Nobody at that time had qualms about bombing foreigners, even if the UN had mandated against it.
And was Cambodia directly bombed or were these collateral? I'm asking. Sincerely,
I just find it. Strange that people seem to call him out when there are people who walk among us today of a similar moral fiber.
Quite right Michael. He was only carrying out policy relayed to him by LBJ, Nixon, the military etc.
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Not talking about you here so much, but I feel weirdly suspicious of the antipathy thrown at Kissinger whenever his name is brought up by some.
Sure, he bombed millions of civilians, and befriended despots. But was he that bad a guy?
Of course I'm being silly... Let me reframe this. The way he is called out seems to exclude the political and geopolitical realities of his time. Nobody at that time had qualms about bombing foreigners, even if the UN had mandated against it.
And was Cambodia directly bombed or were these collateral? I'm asking. Sincerely,
I just find it. Strange that people seem to call him out when there are people who walk among us today of a similar moral fiber.
No he was really bad. I can't imagine there are many people in the 20th Century with as much blood on their hands outside of known despots like Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
He personally oversaw a bombing campaign in Cambodia, a neutral nation, that killed 150,000 civilians and paved the way for the Khmer Rouge.
He helped overthrow Salvador Allende and replace him with the fascist Pinochet.
Approved the 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor and subsequent genocide.
Greenlit the West Pakistani military's 1971 invasion of East Pakistan facilitated the murder of hundreds of thousands in what is now Bangladesh.
Now with all that said, you are right that there are other historic monsters walking among us (George W. Bush and his cronies come to mind) but I think it was Kissinger's longevity and his continued celebration by the rich and powerful (including IIRC every President since Nixon) despite widespread knowledge of his crimes that made him especially repulsive.
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Quite right Michael. He was only carrying out policy relayed to him by LBJ, Nixon, the military etc.
Same energy:
(https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/02/RTXIE46-881x1024.jpg)
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Quite right Michael. He was only carrying out policy relayed to him by LBJ, Nixon, the military etc.
LBJ? What are you talking about?
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Same energy:
(https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/02/RTXIE46-881x1024.jpg)
You can't be serious.
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You can't be serious.
What's the problem here?
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No he was really bad. I can't imagine there are many people in the 20th Century with as much blood on their hands outside of known despots like Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
He personally oversaw a bombing campaign in Cambodia, a neutral nation, that killed 150,000 civilians and paved the way for the Khmer Rouge.
He helped overthrow Salvador Allende and replace him with the fascist Pinochet.
Approved the 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor and subsequent genocide.
Greenlit the West Pakistani military's 1971 invasion of East Pakistan facilitated the murder of hundreds of thousands in what is now Bangladesh.
Now with all that said, you are right that there are other historic monsters walking among us (George W. Bush and his cronies come to mind) but I think it was Kissinger's longevity and his continued celebration by the rich and powerful (including IIRC every President since Nixon) despite widespread knowledge of his crimes that made him especially repulsive.
Ok... I knew about such things at the time. We had a Chilean refugee (priest) live with us for awhile before I came of age.
But the last paragraph maybe informs me the most.
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I just find it. Strange that people seem to call him out when there are people who walk among us today of a similar moral fiber.
I think a difference is the era since then (Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Biden - notably absent is Trump) is that the murderous tentacles of US foreign policy was mostly localized in the middle-east. Kissinger was personally responsible for chaos and genocide in South America, far east, and middle middle east. He was also so openly callous. He said who gives a damn about the 90,000 inhabitants of the Marshal Island when the US tested nuclear bombs.
George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had a death count of 1-1.5 million, but any single one of Kissinger's disastrous meddling in Cambodia, Chile and Bangladesh would meet the same criteria.
And I have no doubt when Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld die, there will be just as many joyous celebrations. Biden's backing of Israel in its bombing of Gaza will have similar effect but in a much much smaller scale.
Nah, Kissinger is in a class of his own. No events in the last 30-40 years reaches the same level of depravity.
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1. ..the murderous tentacles of US foreign policy was mostly localized in the middle-east.
2. He was also so openly callous.
3. He said who gives a damn about the 90,000 inhabitants of the Marshal Island when the US tested nuclear bombs.
4. George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had a death count of 1-1.5 million, but any single one of Kissinger's disastrous meddling in Cambodia, Chile and Bangladesh would meet the same criteria.
Ok you are supporting BD's assertion and I'm starting to get it. The thing I STILL think is weird is that people who know/express very little about the geopolitical world are openly (Facebook) joyous about his passing. Here's another thing that's weird: propagandistic memes and Trumpy types are notably silent.
As for your points:
1. Well... um.... El Salvador is one that's close to my heart. A dear friend that I had a major crush on only ten years ago or so was a refugee from there but ok. Not nitpicking...
2. Noted.
3. Riiiight. But he was quoted by someone else on that and denied it. Did insiders skewer him because he was an arrogant SOB or because he was a Jew ? Was it better for the Republican Party to demonize one guy. Let's face it the entire apparatus was a racist and callous death machine as much as it was a force for global freedom. Partisans would only agree to one of those but I for one see all of it.
4. Noted.
As usual, I am always fascinated by the "public sphere"... when I have folks in my Facebook feed who never post about foreign policy expressing gladness for Henry's death it makes me **** my head and scratch my chin.
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Nah, Kissinger is in a class of his own. No events in the last 30-40 years reaches the same level of depravity.
I think you mean LBJ and Nixon are in a class of their own. Kissinger is just an extension of them.
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I think you mean LBJ and Nixon are in a class of their own. Kissinger is just an extension of them.
Defending war criminals, man you're so cool.
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Defending war criminals, man you're so cool.
I'm just pointing out facts. Kissinger didn't do anything without presidential approval. So save some of your vitriol for LBJ and Nixon.
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I'm just pointing out facts. Kissinger didn't do anything without presidential approval. So save some of your vitriol for LBJ and Nixon.
He was an enthusiastic participant and architect not some innocent bystander "just following orders" you idiot.
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Ok you are supporting BD's assertion and I'm starting to get it. The thing I STILL think is weird is that people who know/express very little about the geopolitical world are openly (Facebook) joyous about his passing. Here's another thing that's weird: propagandistic memes and Trumpy types are notably silent.
As for your points:
1. Well... um.... El Salvador is one that's close to my heart. A dear friend that I had a major crush on only ten years ago or so was a refugee from there but ok. Not nitpicking...
2. Noted.
3. Riiiight. But he was quoted by someone else on that and denied it. Did insiders skewer him because he was an arrogant SOB or because he was a Jew ? Was it better for the Republican Party to demonize one guy. Let's face it the entire apparatus was a racist and callous death machine as much as it was a force for global freedom. Partisans would only agree to one of those but I for one see all of it.
4. Noted.
As usual, I am always fascinated by the "public sphere"... when I have folks in my Facebook feed who never post about foreign policy expressing gladness for Henry's death it makes me **** my head and scratch my chin.
Yes, most people know it is not socially acceptable to dance on the grave of people, although there are a few exceptions (Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Ted Bundy, etc.)
It's much easier to gloat about someone dying with an anonymous internet handle. It's called the "coward" rule.
Then again, what does one expect, when they compare Eichmann (the architect of the Final Solution), to Kissinger.
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Yes, most people know it is not socially acceptable to dance on the grave of people, although there are a few exceptions (Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Ted Bundy, etc.)
It's much easier to gloat about someone dying with an anonymous internet handle. It's called the "coward" rule.
Well said. It usually speaks pretty ill of somebody's character.
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I'm just pointing out facts. Kissinger didn't do anything without presidential approval. So save some of your vitriol for LBJ and Nixon.
LBJ? You are confused again.
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He was an enthusiastic participant and architect not some innocent bystander "just following orders" you idiot.
What part of he couldn't take any action without presidential approval don't you seem to understand?
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Yes, most people know it is not socially acceptable to dance on the grave of people, although there are a few exceptions (Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Ted Bundy, etc.)
It's much easier to gloat about someone dying with an anonymous internet handle. It's called the "coward" rule.
Then again, what does one expect, when they compare Eichmann (the architect of the Final Solution), to Kissinger.
Boy you're dumb.
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LBJ? You are confused again.
Nope. Seems like you are. As usual.
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What part of he couldn't take any action without presidential approval don't you seem to understand?
So what?
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Nope. Seems like you are. As usual.
Kissinger didn't serve in the Johnson administration you retard.
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Kissinger didn't serve in the Johnson administration you retard.
Before he began working for RN, Kissinger was a foreign policy advisor to New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller and a part of LBJ’s channel of communication with the North Vietnamese through a network of intermediaries in Paris.
https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2015/05/henry-kissingers-path-to-the-rn-whitehouse/
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That doesn't mean he served in LBJ's administration.
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Then again, what does one expect, when they compare Eichmann (the architect of the Final Solution), to Kissinger.
I think Heydrich deserves that title. Eichmann was heavily involved in the implementation of the Final Solution, but to call him "the architect" of it is wrong, IMO.
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I think Heydrich deserves that title. Eichmann was heavily involved in the implementation of the Final Solution, but to call him "the architect" of it is wrong, IMO.
Yes, you would be correct. Eichmann was second in command, when it came to implementing the Holocaust. He was in control of the logistics.
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I think Heydrich deserves that title. Eichmann was heavily involved in the implementation of the Final Solution, but to call him "the architect" of it is wrong, IMO.
According to Shady you can't blame either of them since they answered to Göring and Hitler.
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Sadly, by comparison, Shane MacGowan. Saw the Pogues once around 1989 in Montreal opening for the Violent Femmes, who had a very hard time maintaining the energy in the building after the Pogues set.
Shane seemed very drunk.
Damn.
I never knew who sang "Dirty Old Town," a song that I loved listening to when they played it at the Scottish Pub in Calgary I worked at 20 years ago. I just found out it was the Pogues, and MacGowan was the singer.
RIP.
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According to Shady you can't blame either of them since they answered to Göring and Hitler.
That was Eichmann's defence when he was put on trial in Israel.
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That was Eichmann's defence when he was put on trial in Israel.
Yes that was entirely my point in posting Eichmann's photo in the first place: to ridicule Shady's "Kissinger was only following orders" defense.
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Yes that was entirely my point in posting Eichmann's photo in the first place: to ridicule Shady's "Kissinger was only following orders" defense.
I see...
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Damn.
I never knew who sang "Dirty Old Town," a song that I loved listening to when they played it at the Scottish Pub in Calgary I worked at 20 years ago. I just found out it was the Pogues, and MacGowan was the singer.
RIP.
Okay but they didn't write it, right?
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Ok you are supporting BD's assertion and I'm starting to get it. The thing I STILL think is weird is that people who know/express very little about the geopolitical world are openly (Facebook) joyous about his passing. Here's another thing that's weird: propagandistic memes and Trumpy types are notably silent.
As for your points:
1. Well... um.... El Salvador is one that's close to my heart. A dear friend that I had a major crush on only ten years ago or so was a refugee from there but ok. Not nitpicking...
2. Noted.
3. Riiiight. But he was quoted by someone else on that and denied it. Did insiders skewer him because he was an arrogant SOB or because he was a Jew ? Was it better for the Republican Party to demonize one guy. Let's face it the entire apparatus was a racist and callous death machine as much as it was a force for global freedom. Partisans would only agree to one of those but I for one see all of it.
4. Noted.
As usual, I am always fascinated by the "public sphere"... when I have folks in my Facebook feed who never post about foreign policy expressing gladness for Henry's death it makes me **** my head and scratch my chin.
I responded before I read BD’s response. I realized after we made similar arguments.
I don’t know about the people in your orbit. Maybe they’re just parroting what they think they should be. Or maybe they keep their political opinions to themselves on Facebook but just were so overjoyed about Kissinger’s death they made an exception.
I don’t like discussing politics with people I know IRL. Facebook for me is to post family pictures a few times a year for friends and family abroad and to post crap on marketplace. It doesn’t mean I’m not into politics and had I been active yesterday I may have celebrated Henry Kissinger death day on FB too.
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I responded before I read BD’s response. I realized after we made similar arguments.
I don’t know about the people in your orbit. Maybe they’re just parroting what they think they should be. Or maybe they keep their political opinions to themselves on Facebook but just were so overjoyed about Kissinger’s death they made an exception.
I don’t like discussing politics with people I know IRL. Facebook for me is to post family pictures a few times a year for friends and family abroad and to post crap on marketplace. It doesn’t mean I’m not into politics and had I been active yesterday I may have celebrated Henry Kissinger death day on FB too.
Yeah it's weird. Honestly. Almost all my friends are liberal, NDP, red. Tori, libertarian
They only make some comments the day after an election. At this time they all posted
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Yeah it's weird. Honestly. Almost all my friends are liberal, NDP, red. Tori, libertarian
They only make some comments the day after an election. At this time they all posted
When I left Manitoba 20 years ago, I started to get into the Conservatives. Then I realised what a mess they have made of things in Alberta, Manitoba, and Ontario. Now I am leaning NDP.
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When I left Manitoba 20 years ago, I started to get into the Conservatives. Then I realised what a mess they have made of things in Alberta, Manitoba, and Ontario. Now I am leaning NDP.
Trading one group of batsh!tters for another. I don't really see any party in Canada that isn't full of batsh!t or weaksauce. The moderate politicians must be suppressed or something...or increasingly non existent.
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Trading one group of batsh!tters for another. I don't really see any party in Canada that isn't full of batsh!t or weaksauce. The moderate politicians must be suppressed or something...or increasingly non existent.
The Alberta NDP are basically Progressive Conservatives.
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The Alberta NDP are basically Progressive Conservatives.
I disagree.
When they unexpectedly won the 2015 Alberta Provincial election, half of their staff were brought in from Manitoba (since the NDP in the province was certainly going to lose badly in the 2016 election). I thought they did a good job under the circumstances (oil price crash six months before). They raised minimum wage to $15/hour, froze insurance premiums, which are the highest in Canada, and tried to fix the health care system.
The problem with Alberta, is most of the people outside the two big cities buy into the bullshit propaganda that people like Trump peddles. Danielle Smith has no idea how to govern.
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I disagree.
When they unexpectedly won the 2015 Alberta Provincial election, half of their staff were brought in from Manitoba (since the NDP in the province was certainly going to lose badly in the 2016 election). I thought they did a good job under the circumstances (oil price crash six months before). They raised minimum wage to $15/hour, froze insurance premiums, which are the highest in Canada, and tried to fix the health care system.
The problem with Alberta, is most of the people outside the two big cities buy into the bullshit propaganda that people like Trump peddles. Danielle Smith has no idea how to govern.
I don't think that counters what I said. I think Rachel Notley is from the Progressive Conservative tradition of Peter Lougheed. This current crop of Tories are just lunatics unmoored to any political ideaology.
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Biden's statement on Kissinger is about as big of a shrug that you'll see from a politician, I gotta respect it.
I’ll never forget the first time I met Dr. Kissinger. I was a young Senator, and he was Secretary of State—giving a briefing on the state of the world. Throughout our careers, we often disagreed. And often strongly. But from that first briefing — his fierce intellect and profound strategic focus was evident. Long after retiring from government, he continued to offer his views and ideas to the most important policy discussion across multiple generations. Jill and I send our condolences to his wife Nancy, his children Elizabeth and David, his grandchildren, and all those who loved him.
"We disagreed and the old bastard wouldn't ever shut the f*ck up, sorry to his family I guess."
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Biden's statement on Kissinger is about as big of a shrug that you'll see from a politician, I gotta respect it.
"We disagreed and the old bastard wouldn't ever shut the f*ck up, sorry to his family I guess."
Do you think he ever remembers who Kissinger was? 😂
It’s disappointing though, he gave his ex friend and Klan member Robert Byrd a much better send off.
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Ever?
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Do you think he ever remembers who Kissinger was? 😂
It’s disappointing though, he gave his ex friend and Klan member Robert Byrd a much better send off.
Robert Byrd renounced his racist past while the party you support has openly embraced racism.
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Sadly, by comparison, Shane MacGowan. Saw the Pogues once around 1989 in Montreal opening for the Violent Femmes, who had a very hard time maintaining the energy in the building after the Pogues set.
Shane seemed very drunk.
Linz saw the Pogues live once when she lived in London. She said that he was so drunk/wasted that he could barely perform.
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Linz
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Queefer
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Sandra Day O'Connor was still alive?
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I think I got Sandra Day mixed up with Sinead.
But Chad Allan, lead singer of Allan and the Silvertones, Chad Allan and the Expressions, Chad Allan and the Reflections, which became the Guess Who?
He famously recorded the vocals for Shakin All Over in the wee hours, lying on the floor of the CKRC studios in the Winnipeg Free Press building. He quit to become a teacher, just before the band got international stardom. When Randy Bachman was kicked out, Chad and him formed Brave Belt, which had a minor hit in Dunrobin's Gone, named after the street in Winnipeg Chad grew up on ("You know she's gone and she won't be back, you must be a happy man..."). Again, Chad quit just before the band got international stardom as BTO.
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I think I got Sandra Day mixed up with Sinead.
But Chad Allan, lead singer of Allan and the Silvertones, Chad Allan and the Expressions, Chad Allan and the Reflections, which became the Guess Who?
He famously recorded the vocals for Shakin All Over in the wee hours, lying on the floor of the CKRC studios in the Winnipeg Free Press building. He quit to become a teacher, just before the band got international stardom. When Randy Bachman was kicked out, Chad and him formed Brave Belt, which had a minor hit in Dunrobin's Gone, named after the street in Winnipeg Chad grew up on ("You know she's gone and she won't be back, you must be a happy man..."). Again, Chad quit just before the band got international stardom as BTO.
I did not even hear about that. Chad Allen did have a few hits with the band that would later become the Guess Who? Allen did reconnect briefly with Randy Bachmann, once he left the Guess Who? in the early 70s. Hard to believe he was 80.
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Myles Goodwyn. I heard more April Wine in my life than I wanted to, but I guess they were okay.
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I was living in Calgary in August 2007, and I often hung out with a couple of buddies working at Bow Valley Cycle, which is the largest cycling shop in the city, as I used to cycle quite a bit. In August, it was the shop's 50th anniversary, and to celebrate, the owner brought in April Wine to play a concert. It was pretty neat. I helped remove all the merchandise from the 3rd level, and helped set up amps, and musical equipment.
My friend drove a company van, and retrieved the band from the Motel Village. They were pretty nice guys, laid back. It was really cool for them to play in such an intimate settling, in front of 200 people, mainly employees, cyclists, and others. They performed for about an hour, mainly playing their hit songs from the 70s. This happened shortly after the Trailer Park Boys movie was in theatres, where a few of April Wine's songs made it on to the film, rejuvenating their careers.
I would always hear "Could've been a lady" playing at breaks of action at CFL games.
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Denny Laine (four of fish and finger pie) had to Go Now.
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Myles Goodwyn. I heard more April Wine in my life than I wanted to, but I guess they were okay.
I think the amount of April Wine that Can-Con regulations made us listen to has probably done them no favors. I do like some of their songs. I saw them live once when I lived in Ottawa, at whatever Ottawa's summer exposition was called. "Super Ex"? I don't even remember. Anyway, saw them around 2000, didn't hate it.
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Norman Lear. He made sitcoms.
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He did more for the public sphere than any politician could
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I think that this list is missing Good Times
But at least half a dozen substantial series...
Including All in the Family of course.
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I think that this list is missing Good Times
But at least half a dozen substantial series...
Including All in the Family of course.
Unfortunately something as great and impactful as All in the Family couldn’t be made today.
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Unfortunately something as great and impactful as All in the Family couldn’t be made today.
I would say mad men was as great, but I agree with what you're saying about impactful.
Then again, with so many channels of media available, we know that anyone who rises to the top of all of them to the level of a Norman Lear, or the Beatles will be an absolute master.
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Unfortunately something as great and impactful as All in the Family couldn’t be made today.
Yeah because dipshits like you would cry about it being too woke.
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Yeah because dipshits like you would cry about it being too woke.
Yeah that must be it.
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Yeah that must be it.
LOL do you even know what the show was about?
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LOL do you even know what the show was about?
Do you?
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Do you?
Yes.
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Yeah that must be it.
I can't imagine you guys tolerating an episode where the main character has an abortion, which is described as a simple procedure like going to the dentist.
https://x.com/DaveSFoley/status/1732452174007783519?s=20
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I can't imagine you guys tolerating an episode where the main character has an abortion
It happens all the time on television.
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He did more for the public sphere than any politician could
OBAMA?????
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It happens all the time on television.
Really? Like when?
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Really? Like when?
Constantly. Nobody cares.
Report finds more TV abortion plotlines than previous years
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/16/abortion-onscreen-tv-television/10904070002/
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Examples were mentions on reality shows and Grey's Anatomy plotlines. Nothing like having a major recurring character on the show have an abortion, which is the point I made.
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Examples were mentions on reality shows and Grey's Anatomy plotlines. Nothing like having a major recurring character on the show have an abortion, which is the point I made.
Way to move the goalposts! 😂😂😂
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I would still like to know why you couldn't make a show about an old white bigot getting shown the error of his ways by his woke daughter and son-in-law today, but expecting Shady to back up an argument is like waiting for Godot.
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Way to move the goalposts! 😂😂😂
The goalposts are where they were. I said "where the main character has an abortion." I may be wrong but I don't think that has happened since (you certainly haven't provided an example where it has). But you don't think there would be an issue if the main character on a TV show had an abortion now?
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The goalposts are where they were. I said "where the main character has an abortion." I may be wrong but I don't think that has happened since (you certainly haven't provided an example where it has). But you don't think there would be an issue if the main character on a TV show had an abortion now?
Six Feet Under had a main character get an abortion, but that was cable.
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Didn't Talisa Stark get one in "Game of Thrones"?
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How about Ryan O'Neil? Everyone must be completely indifferent to Ryan O'Neil dying. Even Tatum!
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He was great in What's Up Doc?
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How about Ryan O'Neil? Everyone must be completely indifferent to Ryan O'Neil dying. Even Tatum!
She had a major stroke in 2020, and was in a coma for six week. Had to relearn to speak, and pretty much everything else.
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RIP Andre Braugher.
I knew him best as the police chief on Brooklyn 99. He was fantastic.
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Today, Brad Pitt turns 60; Keith Richards turns 80.
Both still kicking though.
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Today, Brad Pitt turns 60; Keith Richards turns 80.
Both still kicking though.
WIllie Nelson turned 90.
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Last April, not today.
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OK, I misread..it was Willie Nelsons 90th birthday celebration last night.
You are correct LJ, his birthday was indeed in April.
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Glynis Johns, who was the mother in Mary Poppins, finally kicks at 100. Not to be confused with Glyn Johns, the record producer John Lennon liked to call "Glynis" in "Get Back."
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Joyce Randolph (Trixie on the Honeymooners) is still alive.
Jinx!
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RIP Carl Weathers. What a legend, gonna watch Predator tonight.
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Today I learned Carol Weathers played for the BC Lions!
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Kick out the jams, motherf uckers!
Wayne Kramer of MC5 died.
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Kick out the jams, motherf uckers!
Wayne Kramer of MC5 died.
*yawn*
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Jam.
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Toby Keith, one of the worst things to happen to country music ever, dead at 62.
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When I saw the Pogues and Violent Femmes (referenced earlier), Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper opened the show. It was forgettable and that's probably why I haven't heard from Mojo Nixon since, until I saw his NYTimes obituary today.
Getting a prominent NYTimes obituary was probably his greatest achievement.
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What ?!?
Used to listen to his show on Sirius XM - he was very funny and charming :(
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Gerry "Kid Dynamite" James, who played for the Bombers and the Leafs. He won the Grey Cup in 1959 and almost won the Stanley Cup in 1960.
And legendary Bomber QB Ken Ploen on the same day too!
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Never heard of them. Great nickname tho
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Why don't have athletes have good nicknames anymore anyway?
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Why don't have athletes have good nicknames anymore anyway?
Nothing is as good as it was...
Wait... what's that NY Jets guy ????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauce_Gardner
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RIP Richard Lewis.
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RIP wrestling legend Virgil.
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A relic of a time when politics wasn't such a blood sport, when people with conflicting views could still respect each other.
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Brian Mulroney Prime Minister 1984-1993. RIP
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(https://i.imgur.com/73H64MG.png)
being called, quite liberally, 'one of the last great Conservatives'...
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Imagine how much things have gone to **** if a Mulroney is considered a great conservative. Even with the benefit of hindsight.
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Imagine how much things have gone to **** if a Mulroney is considered a great conservative. Even with the benefit of hindsight.
He’s considered a “great” conservative by the mainstream media, and establishment because he agreed to raise taxes. Regardless, when leaders like Chrétien and Martin eventually pass away, I will definitely consider them the last great Liberals. The current reiteration is unrecognizable.
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He’s considered a “great” conservative by the mainstream media, and establishment because he agreed to raise taxes. Regardless, when leaders like Chrétien and Martin eventually pass away, I will definitely consider them the last great Liberals. The current reiteration is unrecognizable.
He was corrupt AF.
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He was a proponent of gay rights (apparently because his brother was gay), which certainly distinguishes him from today's party.
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He was corrupt AF.
Yet it was the sponsorship scandal that brought the Martin Government down and the Arrive Can mess is beginning to uncover a lot of shady dealing.
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He was a proponent of gay rights (apparently because his brother was gay), which certainly distinguishes him from today's party.
Don't believe the hype
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Lantsman find all
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Yet it was the sponsorship scandal that brought the Martin Government down and the Arrive Can mess is beginning to uncover a lot of shady dealing.
Mulroney was corrupt AF and romanticizing him in death is ridiculous. What Liberals did and continue to do doesn’t change that one iota.
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Mulroney was corrupt AF and romanticizing him in death is ridiculous. What Liberals did and continue to do doesn’t change that one iota.
Everyone gets romanticized to some degree when they die. It’s done for a short period of time. If you think this is bad, you should see the romanticized eulogy that Trudeau gave Fidel Castro when he died. And that was a legit dictator!
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Mulroney was corrupt AF and romanticizing him in death is ridiculous. What Liberals did and continue to do doesn’t change that one iota.
Not perfect for sure but if you don't take a person's life in balance you can find a way to hate anyone.
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Imagine how much things have gone to **** if a Mulroney is considered a great conservative. Even with the benefit of hindsight.
To me, like most politicians he is a mixed bag.
Yes, there were certainly scandals associated with his time in office (mmmm.... tuna), although I do think is scandals pale in comparison to Chretien.
On the other hand consider he:
- Brought in the GST (which wasn't necessarily a "new" tax but replaced a manufacturing tax.). The GST was absolutely hated at the time. But, given the shift in the economic landscape, ended up being beneficial in the long run.
- Negotiated a free trade agreement, which I believe benefitted our economy. Given the protectionist attitude of previous governments, improved trade seemed to be a big change.
He did fail to eliminate the deficit, but I believe that he was prevented from doing so by a global recession that hit part way through his tenure. (Although he did end up with an operating surplus at the end, and federal finances were definitely heading towards a balanced budget.)
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He had the same problem as Martin, skyrocketing interest rates were causing debt servicing costs to balloon driving deficits up just to service the debt. I fear we are on the same road again.
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Ronnie King.
Sure, you never heard of him. But he was the bass player in the Stampeders, and everybody likes "Sweet City Woman."
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Joe Lieberman, who did all he could to help start the Iraq war and then weaseled out of politics and public life when it inevitably went bad.
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Joe Lieberman, who did all he could to help start the Iraq war and then weaseled out of politics and public life when it inevitably went bad.
So did Al Gore and Joe Biden, you piece of sh*t.
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... you piece of sh*t.
keyboardWarrior says what?
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So did Al Gore and Joe Biden, you piece of sh*t.
Right, you defended that war too. I forgot how touchy you are about that failure. 😂
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keyboardWarrior says what?
It’s the only language he understands.
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Right, you defended that war too. I forgot how touchy you are about that failure. 😂
And you haven’t learned anything from history. In fact you support Biden today, and the same intelligence apparatus, except this time they feed you propaganda about Trump, and Putin, etc, and you applaud like a clapping seal.
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...Biden today, and the same intelligence apparatus, except this time they feed you propaganda about Trump, and Putin, etc, and you applaud like a clapping seal.
geezaz Shady, how can we get some of those 'unvarnished facts' about Trump & Putin? What sources are you tapped into; those that you rely on?
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Yes, when asked what false Trump/Putin propaganda, he will fade into the bushes every time. It's hilarious to watch. 😂
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What is even better is last night grabbing a Daly Burger special. Supreme chili-cheeseburger, fries, and a drink for the amazing low price of $12.99.
They gave me enough fries to feed two people. Highly recommended.
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What is even better is last night grabbing a Daly Burger special. Supreme chili-cheeseburger, fries, and a drink for the amazing low price of $12.99.
They gave me enough fries to feed two people. Highly recommended.
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