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Administration => Forum Administration => Topic started by: cybercoma on March 10, 2017, 09:02:12 am
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So the host is censoring words through the forum software to appease advertisers. Just a heads up.
You can still say motherfucker though. That's not off limits. The rest of Carlin's Seven Dirty Words are though.
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So the host is censoring words through the forum software to appease advertisers. Just a heads up.
You can still say motherfucker though. That's not off limits. The rest of Carlin's Seven Dirty Words are though.
Yeah, I see that now - I'd have to pay for add free credits to stop that.
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aw, fizzityuck. Those Orwellian monkeyfathers are oppressing me! This is bullshift! Bullshift! Those dock-sucking sons of ditches.
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Yeah, I see that now - I'd have to pay for add free credits to stop that.
Is this something they just implemented because I'm pretty sure I've used "bad" words before without the censorship.
Maybe I didn't notice before because you had a trial period with the forum software?
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Ehhh $15 a month. And you disabled the arcade, you bastard.
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Ehhh $15 a month. And you disabled the arcade, you bastard.
I did?
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Ehhh $15 a month. And you disabled the arcade, you bastard.
I think the drinks cost more now too. :(
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I did?
According to the host's website you get a mini-arcade with this forum software. I don't see no damn arcade. heh
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I've turned it on, but I don't see anything?
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I've turned it on, but I don't see anything?
I want my money back unless I get the arcade. This is false advertising.
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So the host is censoring words through the forum software to appease advertisers. Just a heads up.
You can still say motherfucker though. That's not off limits. The rest of Carlin's Seven Dirty Words are though.
**** off.
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This is bull ****.
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Is this something they just implemented because I'm pretty sure I've used "bad" words before without the censorship.
Maybe I didn't notice before because you had a trial period with the forum software?
The ads are new. I didn't come around for a while and it was the first thing I noticed when I came back.
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I've turned it on, but I don't see anything?
I see it.
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I see it.
Yeah, it appeared ~15 mins later.
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Nice! An arcade that I'll never use. hehe
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**** mothefucker ****-****
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I can see your ****-****.
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i see what you did there.
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I have joined the ranks of the banned (for a week); this is because I made a joke about shooting SJWs which is 'invoking' violence. Another poster made a joke about pitting conservatives against each other so they could bludgeon each other to death, but that post remains. Perhaps SJWs are in short supply so even joking about their demise is not allowed, whereas a thinning of conservatives is needed? ;D
All joking aside, I am amused. Especially since I was warned once, didn't see the warning, referred back to my original joke and was summarily banned for ignoring the first warning. Ah well, I'm pretty sure I was spending too much time there anyway.
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Ah well, I'm pretty sure I was spending too much time there anyway.
I was banned for a week, three weeks ago, for someone's interpretation of something I said. Haven't been back.
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I have joined the ranks of the banned (for a week); this is because I made a joke about shooting SJWs which is 'invoking' violence. Another poster made a joke about pitting conservatives against each other so they could bludgeon each other to death, but that post remains. Perhaps SJWs are in short supply so even joking about their demise is not allowed, whereas a thinning of conservatives is needed? ;D
All joking aside, I am amused. Especially since I was warned once, didn't see the warning, referred back to my original joke and was summarily banned for ignoring the first warning. Ah well, I'm pretty sure I was spending too much time there anyway.
You got suspended for that? Did they give any reason why the bludgeoning post could remain?
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You got suspended for that? Did they give any reason why the bludgeoning post could remain?
I think its a complaint driven system. My post was complained about, the other wasn't. Although from the email I got, the banning may have been cause the moderator thought I was ignoring his earlier warning.
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****.
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You got suspended for that? Did they give any reason why the bludgeoning post could remain?
I have spoken to MH on that sort of issue and his reply is that they do not feel there is any requirement for consistency in their judgments.
Right now there are basically three lunatics there posting most of the topics, one allegedly from Turkey, one from the far fringes of the left whose only interest, it seems, is a frenzied condemnation of anything related to the US or the West, and the third a dullard of the far right who calls himself a white rights activist. It's sad, really, since all of them are conspiracy freaks and none of them are capable of any rational discussion.
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Well if MH said that then I will wholeheartedly agree. A lack of consistency is one thing that is consistent. And MH is far from the worst over there.
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all of them are conspiracy freaks and none of them are capable of any rational discussion.
That's the common denominator because that is one of the mods in a nutshell. These are his kinfolk: irrational conspiracy theory loving gadflies.
I've got to imagine the other two mods just banging their heads on a brick wall at this point.
For as wrong as I think you are about immigration, at least you're not an imbecile. You have honest discussions, even if I think some of your views are stupid. In other words, you don't troll and I wouldn't call you a troll even though I disagree with many of the things you say. But that's not what the majority of posts are over there now.
And even if these people honestly believe the nonsensical garbage that they post, that's irrelevant. You don't claim to have a forum for intelligent discussion and then turn around and foster bottom-of-the-barrel conspiracy trash.
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That's the common denominator because that is one of the mods in a nutshell. These are his kinfolk: irrational conspiracy theory loving gadflies.
I've got to imagine the other two mods just banging their heads on a brick wall at this point.
For as wrong as I think you are about immigration, at least you're not an imbecile. You have honest discussions, even if I think some of your views are stupid. In other words, you don't troll and I wouldn't call you a troll even though I disagree with many of the things you say. But that's not what the majority of posts are over there now.
And even if these people honestly believe the nonsensical garbage that they post, that's irrelevant. You don't claim to have a forum for intelligent discussion and then turn around and foster bottom-of-the-barrel conspiracy trash.
I was recently chastised by the mod you speak of for simply hounding one of those gadfly's (the most recent 9-11 one) to try and answer a couple of pertinent questions that he obviously couldn't/wouldn't, and that made his conspiracy theory look a little thin. I didn't realize there was such a conspiracy to protect conspiracy theories, but I'm seeing it now.
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And even if these people honestly believe the nonsensical garbage that they post, that's irrelevant. You don't claim to have a forum for intelligent discussion and then turn around and foster bottom-of-the-barrel conspiracy trash.
That's 100 percent it in my opinion, its all so dishonest, what's the point in arguing on either side, but the way that site is run you might think they would be just as happy if it was only nutters posting and replying to their own crazy posts.
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I was recently chastised by the mod you speak of for simply hounding one of those gadfly's (the most recent 9-11 one) to try and answer a couple of pertinent questions that he obviously couldn't/wouldn't, and that made his conspiracy theory look a little thin. I didn't realize there was such a conspiracy to protect conspiracy theories, but I'm seeing it now.
I'll go you one better. I was admonished the other day for telling a poster who said he found nothing wrong with the writings of noted white supremacists that this showed his poor judgement.
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I'll go you one better. I was admonished the other day for telling a poster who said he found nothing wrong with the writings of noted white supremacists that this showed his poor judgement.
I wouldn't have to think very long to come up with the party's whom you refer to.
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****.
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:o
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All joking aside, I am amused. Especially since I was warned once, didn't see the warning, referred back to my original joke and was summarily banned for ignoring the first warning. Ah well, I'm pretty sure I was spending too much time there anyway.
Something similar happened to me there...
Someone posted a reference to an article. I pointed out the fact that the source of the article was poor (something that even one of the co-moderators had done on occasion). My posting was deleted, but I didn't get the warning. I assumed I made a mistake in posting so I re-posted my comment, and got suspended.
Have to say, at least one of the moderators there has become a complete and total idiot.
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Right now there are basically three lunatics there posting most of the topics, one allegedly from Turkey, one from the far fringes of the left whose only interest, it seems, is a frenzied condemnation of anything related to the US or the West, and the third a dullard of the far right who calls himself a white rights activist.
You'll have to be more specific about that... there are 2 there that I would classify as "dullards of the far right"... one that openly admits to getting his information from neo-nazi literature, the other that praises that very same individual.
You're forgetting another lunatic... the one who likes to cut and past from christian web sites (with fancy colored fonts) yet seems unwilling/unable to actually create her own content.
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One weird bit of censorship...
The word '****'. (Its a name used by a humor website.) Not sure why that one would be banned by the software. Perhaps they are concerned about how it may refer to hacking/computer security, but the word has so many connotations.
Jimmy **** corn, and I don't care.
Jimmy **** corn, and I don't care.
Jimmy **** corn, and I don't care.
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Something similar happened to me there...
Someone posted a reference to an article. I pointed out the fact that the source of the article was poor (something that even one of the co-moderators had done on occasion). My posting was deleted, but I didn't get the warning. I assumed I made a mistake in posting so I re-posted my comment, and got suspended.
Have to say, at least one of the moderators there has become a complete and total idiot.
I had something similar as well. I logged in and went into a thread and responded to the most previous post that had been made by the "Head Troll" ( I think might know who I mean...all things Canadian ) before I realized that he/she had completely derailed the thread. My bad I guess for not reading up the page before responding. Guess who got suspended? Not the troll who had done the initial derailment. And that member seems to get away with same constantly.
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I had something similar as well. I logged in and went into a thread and responded to the most previous post that had been made by the "Head Troll" ( I think might know who I mean...all things Canadian ) before I realized that he/she had completely derailed the thread. My bad I guess for not reading up the page before responding. Guess who got suspended? Not the troll who had done the initial derailment. And that member seems to get away with same constantly.
Not only were the moderators inconsistent, I'd also question why they are so concerned with keeping threads "on topic".
Yes, sometimes a troll can derail an interesting and legitimate thread, but sometimes discussions evolve over time, and the resulting topics can be just as interesting (if not more so) than the original discussions.
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I shouldn't have bought web traffic - they used up my swear jar.
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I shouldn't have bought web traffic - they used up my swear jar.
How does that work??
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I bought a certain number of ad free credits (25K) and then bought 10K worth of views in terms of web traffic. It used up the ad free credits. I'll buy more when I'm back from Hong Kong next week.
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****? Penises? p3n1s? Dong? dongs?
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What ?
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Just testing the electric fence, Michael.
dick dicks dongs **** titz boobs boobz **** ass butt booty dickbutt **** cooter clam anal sex blowjob hummer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEefiEEkPbk
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I took the electric fence down again. It might take a few minutes.
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I hope you didn't spend hard-earned money just so that we can swear. Because we can certainly find ways around the autocensor if it's any burden on you.
I fizzityuckin' guarantee it.
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It's just under $10 CAD for 25000 impressions. I wouldn't have ran out so fast if I hadn't foolishly bought web traffic.
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There's nothing wrong with adults typing swear words here and there. I hardly ever do it online, as I don't usually need to.
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In what context ? i can't believe I would have cared enough about this topic other than in moderating, in which case it's a boring topic to discuss enforcement of rules.
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In what context ? i can't believe I would have cared enough about this topic other than in moderating, in which case it's a boring topic to discuss enforcement of rules.
You had to get rid of swearing I was using in a quote. I was mad at you for it. I forgive you. For now...:P
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You had to get rid of swearing I was using in a quote. I was mad at you for it. I forgive you. For now...:P
That is maybe one of the top irritants about being a moderator: people lobbying you and hectoring you to ignore rules set by others. And the utter outrage when you disagree with them. The outrage !
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I know - I dislike that and so now I've paid 7.00 US so then next 25000 page visits are uncensored and ad free.
As for the N word - I think we only give it power by lending it power. It would be an interesting discussion.
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"Shift, digger! I'm just looking for some kitties!" -text message auto-correct.
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Boobies. I have boobies. I like titties. Testing titties.
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I hope you didn't spend hard-earned money just so that we can swear. Because we can certainly find ways around the autocensor if it's any burden on you.
I have to agree...
I appreciate you running this forum... You've done your bit to give us a place to discuss stuff. We can certainly make our points without swearing.
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I have to agree...
I appreciate you running this forum... You've done your bit to give us a place to discuss stuff. We can certainly make our points without swearing.
Well, we have 22000 more page views of add free content- I'll decide after that if I keep paying the money. I don't encourage swearing - I simply feel it should be allowed for reasons or art and expression.
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god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
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god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
god dammit
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Tough start to the weekend?
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god damnit
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Who is Sir. John ?
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Who is Sir. John ?
You ask this so close to Canada Day? You should be ashamed!
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Seriously though...
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Seriously though...
Seriously, what does it matter? As far as I'm concerned, the major problem with discussion forums is people's need to personalize political and ideological discussions. Thus instead of discussing those ideas in a congenial atmosphere we feel the need to slap at the people who wrote them, just so they're certain of how indignant we are that they disagree with us.
It should not, in other words, matter who wrote the words. The words themselves are what should concern people who are interested in discussion.
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Yes but I would rather find out right away if you're an **** than figure it out over 1/2 a day or so...
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Yes but I would rather find out right away if you're an **** than figure it out over 1/2 a day or so...
Everyone here is an **** sometimes. The trick is to minimize the times YOU'RE an ****.
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You mean maximize.
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You mean maximize.
Only if your ambition is to be Donald Trump.
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Seriously though...
You'll figure it out soon enough. I did, and I'm remarkably dumb at stuff like that. :)
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god damn motherfucking son of a ****
****! ****! ****!
SHIIIITTTT. BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!!
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god damn motherfucking son of a ****
****! ****! ****!
SHIIIITTTT. BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!!
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You hittin' the sauce again?
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god damnit! **** **** ****. I think I accidentally nuked the All Purpose Music Thread.
I didn't even think that was possible here. I don't have any super-powers on this forum, do I?
****!
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I can still see it?
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So, in answer to the question you asked me, I'm going to have to go with the third option. If you still can't find it, look harder or start a new one :P.
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No seriously bro I'm still not seeing it. I notice that threads I started myself have a "Remove" button in the first message, and I am wondering if that might have happened. Can you check and see if there are any options to unhide the thread, or similar?
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MH posted in it - can you see it now?
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I can see it now. The last post I made (or attempted to make?) isn't there.
I must have hit wrong buttons when I was trying to post, but I can't figure out how. I even tried using the search button to find it. So strange.
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*GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG*
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*GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG*
LAWL
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*GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG* *GLUG*
HEEEYYYYYYYYYY
LAWL
god damn it
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**** **** **** **** **** **** **** god damnit god damn it boobs **** dicks **** ass **** **** ****
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Yep, still working.
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Um - am I a moderator here now ? I seem to have some admin functions.
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Um - am I a moderator here now ? I seem to have some admin functions.
****! ****! ****! ****!
god damnit!
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Um - am I a moderator here now ? I seem to have some admin functions.
Such as?
The quote and modify buttons are far too close together.
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It seems that by default, you have the ability to lock a topic that you started. You don't have the ability anymore. You do however, still have the ability to completely delete your own posts.
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Yes, I seem to be able to unlock that locked thread or delete it. Ok, got it now.
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You do however, still have the ability to completely delete your own posts.
Oh? :)
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Oh? :)
I very much was moved by your argument at the other place. Your work is your own.
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I very much was moved by your argument at the other place. Your work is your own.
I didn't get to make an argument at the other place. ;)
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I didn't get to make an argument at the other place. ;)
Well, you told me about it, anyway.
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Bizz bozz I am fnargling my cookie-dingler.
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I just noticed this thread. As you know I have been trying to make serious efforts to improve the quality of dialogue on this forum. In an effort to continue that.. here are some web-sites that can help you.
This one provides words you can use. (my favourite is meat flap)
http://onlineslangdictionary.com/lists/most-vulgar-words/
This one can help you understand the origins (etiology) of some of these words:
https://listverse.com/2015/09/29/10-offensive-english-words-with-hazy-origins/
Now given the difficulty on another thread on the origins of the word "genocide" and how it has been used I recommend you need to refer to the above article on origins and in particularI will provide an except from it:
…**** probably derived from Proto-Germanic, as it was likely present in Old English, and the letter “t” is shared with the Old Frisian kunte, the Old Icelandic kunta, and the Middle Low German kunte. Both the Latin and Germanic derive from Indo-European root words, however, as do the Greek kusos and the Sanskrit kutchi, meaning “ditch.” The word became common in the 13th and 14th centuries, with the red light districts of English towns often being called “Gropecuntlane.” However, the word also appeared in surnames like Clawecunte, Sitbithecunte, and Fillecunt.
The first written usage of “****” in the modern sense comes from the 1325 Proverbs of Hendyng, a collection of moral and religious advice in which women are told to, “Give thy cunte wisely and ask for marriage.” A 1440 medical document uses it as a technical term, saying, “In wymmen the necke of the bladdre is schort, & is maad fast to the cunte.” In the mid-19th century, the word was a derogatory term for both men and women but steadily developed its misogynistic edge in the 20th century. It was rarely seen in print until relatively modern times, being left out of the Oxford English Dictionary when it was first compiled."
In an effort to make amends to all women on this forum if the above offends may I suggest they can use these words to describe those of us with testes:
oik
pillock
sock fluid
metalplate
dribbler
skooter
skippy
Butch
Buck
Steven Segal
Harvey Weinstein
Daniel Baboon
drooler ape
syphlitic
polyp
detergent resistant
pouch monkey
urinal backfire
flesh eating disease
battery licker
non savante idiot
or
direction challenged sperm (dcp)
My mission is done for today and may I say I am pleased to see Omni found this "dumb".
You are welcome Omni I hope that wasn't too long a response.
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I just noticed this thread. As you know I have been trying to make serious efforts to improve the quality of dialogue on this forum. In an effort to continue that.. here are some web-sites that can help you.
This one provides words you can use. (my favourite is meat flap)
http://onlineslangdictionary.com/lists/most-vulgar-words/
This one can help you understand the origins (etiology) of some of these words:
https://listverse.com/2015/09/29/10-offensive-english-words-with-hazy-origins/
Now given the difficulty on another thread on the origins of the word "genocide" and how it has been used I recommend you need to refer to the above article on origins and in particularI will provide an except from it:
…**** probably derived from Proto-Germanic, as it was likely present in Old English, and the letter “t” is shared with the Old Frisian kunte, the Old Icelandic kunta, and the Middle Low German kunte. Both the Latin and Germanic derive from Indo-European root words, however, as do the Greek kusos and the Sanskrit kutchi, meaning “ditch.” The word became common in the 13th and 14th centuries, with the red light districts of English towns often being called “Gropecuntlane.” However, the word also appeared in surnames like Clawecunte, Sitbithecunte, and Fillecunt.
The first written usage of “****” in the modern sense comes from the 1325 Proverbs of Hendyng, a collection of moral and religious advice in which women are told to, “Give thy cunte wisely and ask for marriage.” A 1440 medical document uses it as a technical term, saying, “In wymmen the necke of the bladdre is schort, & is maad fast to the cunte.” In the mid-19th century, the word was a derogatory term for both men and women but steadily developed its misogynistic edge in the 20th century. It was rarely seen in print until relatively modern times, being left out of the Oxford English Dictionary when it was first compiled."
In an effort to make amends to all women on this forum if the above offends may I suggest they can use these words to describe those of us with testes:
oik
pillock
sock fluid
metalplate
dribbler
skooter
skippy
Butch
Buck
Steven Segal
Harvey Weinstein
Daniel Baboon
drooler ape
syphlitic
polyp
detergent resistant
pouch monkey
urinal backfire
flesh eating disease
battery licker
non savante idiot
or
direction challenged sperm (dcp)
My mission is done for today and may I say I am pleased to see Omni found this "dumb".
You are welcome Omni I hope that wasn't too long a response.
The childishness of it makes it "too long" no matter the length.
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Yes coming from the highbrow mature Omni whose intent of even responding to me was not generated by petulance but a concern for post pubescent discourse on this forum. Got it and may I say in the spirit of this thread and with much love...go phuck yourself.
"When a fat man calls me fat, I offer him a twinkie."
Rue, 2019
"Proctologists are loath to miss what they think is an opening to point their finger at."
Rue 2019
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Omni you are now free to start a thread and censor me. Go ahead.
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Yes coming from the highbrow mature Omni whose intent of even responding to me was not generated by petulance but a concern for post pubescent discourse on this forum. Got it and may I say in the spirit of this thread and with much love...go phuck yourself.
"When a fat man calls me fat, I offer him a twinkie."
Rue, 2019
"Proctologists are loath to miss what they think is an opening to point their finger at."
Rue 2019
Thank you for pointing out that I am mature. The rest is a bit of a waste. Now go enjoy your twinkies.
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Fascist rallies?
As of today those who defend scum will be considered scum.
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Because I will never interfere with or censor individual posters, I have just removed a topic I started because of too many personal insults. I know I can't claim to be the most civil member of this forum but I regret being any part of where this has headed.
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Bunch of ******* ****-*** **********s.
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Because I will never interfere with or censor individual posters, I have just removed a topic I started because of too many personal insults.
and the waldo apologizes for missing the party! By the by, nuking a thread is the ultimate censorship - ya think?
in any case, the waldo regrets putting the repeat pressure on you to do the right thing - to change your incorrectly worded thread title... which you refused even after being shown the folly of your title premise. As an appeasement measure, the following offers an appropriate summary of the nuked thread - you're welcome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcUpDssvhPU
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and the waldo apologizes for missing the party! By the by, nuking a thread is the ultimate censorship - ya think?
in any case, the waldo regrets putting the repeat pressure on you to do the right thing - to change your incorrectly worded thread title... which you refused even after being shown the folly of your title premise. As an appeasement measure, the following offers an appropriate summary of the nuked thread - you're welcome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcUpDssvhPU
I nuked everyones posts, including my own.
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I nuked everyones posts, including my own.
Power is glorious.
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@Gorgeous Graham
On another thread you made two points about MLW I don't agree with, and don't understand the basis for.
1) the reason MLW went downhill, or maybe was inundated with poor posters is because the mods were too controlling? Why wouldn't controlling mods want to clamp down and/or kick out poor posters?
2) the assertion that Trumpites and leftists are too sides of the same coin? Does that mean that you put all conservatives, including maybe yourself, in the same basket as Trumpites?
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@Gorgeous Graham
On another thread you made two points about MLW I don't agree with, and don't understand the basis for.
1) the reason MLW went downhill, or maybe was inundated with poor posters is because the mods were too controlling? Why wouldn't controlling mods want to clamp down and/or kick out poor posters?
MLW imploded due to poor moderation. Some users were suspended or banned for nonsensical reasons in "ban-hammer" sprees, others were allowed to keep posting with impunity with no punishment even though they were clearly breaking the rules. Many threads are locked simply due to "thread drift". Imagine silencing all constructive discussion in a thread simply because some of it was "off-topic.
Given this, quite a few people left and came here. I have no problem with banning or suspending problem posters, but it has to be done fairly and logically. Power corrupts.
2) the assertion that Trumpites and leftists are too sides of the same coin? Does that mean that you put all conservatives, including maybe yourself, in the same basket as Trumpites?
So you said: "They are not creatures of the age of reason. They are interested in winning and imposing their culture on others."
I agree many rightwing posters are like this. But many people on the left, including some on this forum, are like this as well. We're in the middle of a culture war right now. We always have been but it's just cranked up to 10 recently. Most Trumpites and SJW's have the same agenda: winning and imposing their culture on others. I'm in no way immune to this. Politics is about power. It's about controlling our laws, policies, narratives, culture etc. For many people, listening to the other side often just gets in the way of this.
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MLW imploded due to poor moderation. Some users were suspended or banned for nonsensical reasons in "ban-hammer" sprees, others were allowed to keep posting with impunity with no punishment even though they were clearly breaking the rules. Many threads are locked simply due to "thread drift". Imagine silencing all constructive discussion in a thread simply because some of it was "off-topic.
Given this, quite a few people left and came here. I have no problem with banning or suspending problem posters, but it has to be done fairly and logically. Power corrupts.
Ah I see now. No, I disagree with almost everything you said. I don't think that this place has anything to do with it either. There are just more bad posters around.
So you said: "They are not creatures of the age of reason. They are interested in winning and imposing their culture on others."
I agree many rightwing posters are like this. But many people on the left, including some on this forum, are like this as well. We're in the middle of a culture war right now. We always have been but it's just cranked up to 10 recently. Most Trumpites and SJW's have the same agenda: winning and imposing their culture on others. I'm in no way immune to this. Politics is about power. It's about controlling our laws, policies, narratives, culture etc. For many people, listening to the other side often just gets in the way of this.
Really ? If you are aware of this problem and still doing it, I guess you are worse than others.
Myself, I like this thing called political process. It requires people who are just a little bit smart, though, and that can be a problem. But the real problem is that it requires people to not think of themselves first and foremost in every situation.
But ok.
Also I don't think ANYONE here is an SJW or a Trumpite unless I'm mistaken.