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Federal Politics => Canadian Politics => Topic started by: Spectre of Graham on August 31, 2019, 10:13:31 pm

Title: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on August 31, 2019, 10:13:31 pm
Answers can be changed on poll.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 02, 2019, 03:04:40 am
3 votes so far for green to take the lead.  interesting!
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: ?Impact on September 03, 2019, 12:41:48 pm
3 votes so far for green to take the lead.  interesting!

I don't think the dozen or so of us here are a representative sample of Canada.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 03, 2019, 02:11:17 pm
I don't think the dozen or so of us here are a representative sample of Canada.

Yes certainly not.  But still interesting.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: wilber on September 03, 2019, 03:04:06 pm
Going to ask my kids for their opinion. Only fair considering my vote could help determine the kind of world they and their kids will live in.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 09, 2019, 01:09:16 pm
Greens still with a good lead here.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Granny on September 09, 2019, 01:55:47 pm
And not even 1 person willing to acknowledge voting Liberal. Lol
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Granny on September 13, 2019, 05:55:00 pm
Loving the Green landslide here!
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: MH on September 14, 2019, 05:39:09 am
Some other party ?
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: queenmandy85 on September 14, 2019, 12:24:54 pm
I changed my vote from Green to CPC based on:
May's poor performance so far
Sheer may not be flashy but he is intelligent and steady
My local CPC MP is an good MP and far better than the other candidates
Sheer has good experienced people like Lisa Raitt.
Trudeau has shown little respect for women and he is just not a good fit for the task. (Kudos, though, for the NAFTA success.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: ?Impact on September 14, 2019, 12:30:49 pm
Ok, someone voted Liberal. Who is it? Confess, ve have ways of making you talk.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Omni on September 14, 2019, 12:55:29 pm
I changed my vote from Green to CPC based on:
May's poor performance so far
Sheer may not be flashy but he is intelligent and steady
My local CPC MP is an good MP and far better than the other candidates
Sheer has good experienced people like Lisa Raitt.
Trudeau has shown little respect for women and he is just not a good fit for the task. (Kudos, though, for the NAFTA success.

I certainly agree that since we don't vote directly for the PM (unless in his riding) we need to choose who we think is the best rep. in our riding. I used to vote NDP because I liked and personally knew their rep. here, even though I didn't necessarily want them in 24 Sussex.  I would disagree however that Scheer is steady and JT showing little respect for women. Scheer continues to waffle on the abortion issue saying he personally wouldn't revisit the issue but his members could. JT has always been, and continues to be, very clear as to a woman's right to choose.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Granny on September 14, 2019, 01:21:56 pm
Ok, someone voted Liberal. Who is it? Confess, ve have ways of making you talk.

They have the right to remain silent.  Lol

Aaaaaaand .... the Liberals are finally on the board, far behind the Conservatives and Greens who are neck-and-neck in the backstretch!

Who wi it be? Will the Liberals come from behind and take the gold? Will the Greens hold on? Will the Conservatives stumble ... again?
Wait and see ... it's shaping up to be a great horse race!
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Goddess on September 16, 2019, 12:29:11 pm
I changed my vote from Green to CPC based on:
May's poor performance so far
Sheer may not be flashy but he is intelligent and steady
My local CPC MP is an good MP and far better than the other candidates
Sheer has good experienced people like Lisa Raitt.
Trudeau has shown little respect for women and he is just not a good fit for the task. (Kudos, though, for the NAFTA success.

I'm waffling between Green and CPC, too.

I'm not 100% sold on either of their platforms and have some differences with both of them on certain issues.

As they say - it's a bit like choosing which STD is right for you.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: ?Impact on September 16, 2019, 12:43:28 pm
I'm waffling between Green and CPC, too.

What pray tell is good in the CPC plan. Could it be Scheers tax cuts for corporations to solve our environmental problems?
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: segnosaur on September 16, 2019, 01:48:36 pm
What pray tell is good in the CPC plan. Could it be Scheers tax cuts for corporations to solve our environmental problems?
According to Macleans ( https://www.macleans.ca/politics/2019-federal-election-platform-guide-where-the-parties-stand-on-everything/ ) some of the things that the conservatives are offering that people might like are:

- Tax cuts aimed at middle/lower incomes (taxes on income under ~47k) and families (physical fitness and arts activities ta credits)

- Stronger gun laws aimed at firearms smuggled into the country and/or used in crimes

- Health care increases of ~3% / year

And it should be noted that while the Green party is seen as the more "environmental" party, the conservatives don't totally ignore the issue... this includes tax credits for Canadian-developed green technology and for home renovations that improve energy efficiency, and emissions standards for major green-house gas producers. (And unlike the Green party, they won't try to get rid of Nuclear power, one of the dumbest parts of the green party platform.)

Granted, its still early in the election race... parties still haven't released their complete election platforms. Maybe the green party will put some stuff in their platform that matches what the conservatives have offered. Maybe the conservatives will start offering really stupid stuff. But at this point, I don't think its necessarily fair to characterize the conservative plan as "tax cuts to big business".
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: segnosaur on September 16, 2019, 01:49:39 pm
I selected Other...

I'm voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 16, 2019, 02:08:26 pm
What pray tell is good in the CPC plan. Could it be Scheers tax cuts for corporations to solve our environmental problems?

Explain how this plan of theirs works

He just announced he'll give people who use public transit a tax credit as one measure to incentivize people to help the environment, which was cut by the Liberals in 2017.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5898649/andrew-scheer-public-transit-credit/
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 16, 2019, 02:10:40 pm
Ok, someone voted Liberal. Who is it? Confess, ve have ways of making you talk.

It's probably not waldo, it couldn't be...
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: ?Impact on September 16, 2019, 02:58:56 pm
According to Macleans ... some of the things that the conservatives are offering that people might like are:

- Health care increases of ~3% / year

It was 6% before Harper cut it, not sure what it is now. It was John Diefenbaker, a Progressive Conservative that originally said the federal government will match dollar for dollar what the provinces pay - what is that ratio today?
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: segnosaur on September 16, 2019, 05:11:13 pm
Quote
According to Macleans ... some of the things that the conservatives are offering that people might like are:
- Health care increases of ~3% / year
It was 6% before Harper cut it, not sure what it is now. It was John Diefenbaker, a Progressive Conservative that originally said the federal government will match dollar for dollar what the provinces pay - what is that ratio today?
Is that right?

From what I can see, health care increases under Harper were around 6%... Under trudeau, the figures seem to fall to around 3-4%.

So, the conservatives aren't necessarily planning a great increase in health care funding, but the are promising to at least maintain the status quo of steady increases that have been going on.

https://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp

Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: ?Impact on September 16, 2019, 05:15:28 pm
From what I can see, health care increases under Harper were around 6%... Under trudeau, the figures seem to fall to around 3-4%.

It was Harper that changed the formula. Yes, Trudeau did not restore it.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/liberals-keeping-harper-target-for-health-transfers-philpott-1.3086326
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Granny on September 16, 2019, 05:34:20 pm
Greens pull ahead again!!

Small c-conservative Canada (outside of Alberta oil-promoters) is beginning to realize that the Greens are serious about
1) doing business
2) in a new and sustainable way.

Greens have been incorrectly pegged as just another 'social justice environment party of the left'.
But their business and economic policies are their strongest point.

I think small business and farming communities in the great blue swathe of rural Canada are starting to take note of that.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: waldo on September 16, 2019, 05:41:20 pm
Greens have been incorrectly pegged as just another 'social justice environment party of the left'. But their business and economic policies are their strongest point.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/639e519969ee8c42cc70b12e9f0c894b/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Granny on September 16, 2019, 06:02:23 pm
(https://media.tenor.com/images/639e519969ee8c42cc70b12e9f0c894b/tenor.gif)

Tell us about the Liberal and Conservative plans for sustainable businesses, a sustainable economy, a viable future.

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Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: waldo on September 16, 2019, 06:02:59 pm
It's probably not waldo, it couldn't be...

I should probably look to see if this stooopid thread was started by you!  ;D Geezaz, it was! What's the margin of error?

and no I didn't vote in your silliness - I certainly wouldn't want to mess with member Granny's delusions of grandeur...

speaking of: both profiled aggregators have the GP winning 3 seats... possibly 4 - all in B.C.. Wonder where member Granny thinks the big GP breakthrough will occur?

(https://i.imgur.com/EvHlnBt.png)
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: waldo on September 16, 2019, 06:08:15 pm
Tell us about the Liberal and Conservative plans for sustainable businesses, a sustainable economy, a viable future.

per your prior post, as below, it seems the onus is on you, hey! Or are you a tad hesitant to provide reference detail... since that blew-up on you in regards "Mission Improbable". You claim the "Greens are serious? How serious?  ;D

Small c-conservative Canada (outside of Alberta oil-promoters) is beginning to realize that the Greens are serious about
1) doing business
2) in a new and sustainable way.

Greens have been incorrectly pegged as just another 'social justice environment party of the left'.
But their business and economic policies are their strongest point.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: MH on September 17, 2019, 04:49:10 am
Seems like we're not a left-wing board after all  ???
 
This would be a Green minority board with a Conservative opposition.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: waldo on September 17, 2019, 08:59:18 am
early days - there is much more mud to sling!

(https://i.imgur.com/SpBWfLs.png)
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: Spectre of Graham on September 17, 2019, 09:31:05 pm
As much as Liz May is insane, i feel bad for the Green Party.  10% poll support = only 3-4 seats.

We should elect a party that will remove FPTP.  Oh wait...
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: the_squid on September 17, 2019, 10:38:27 pm
As much as Liz May is insane, i feel bad for the Green Party.  10% poll support = only 3-4 seats.

We should elect a party that will remove FPTP.  Oh wait...

That would be the Green Party.
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: MH on September 18, 2019, 04:38:46 am
So Green minority supported by NDP+Liberals ? 
Title: Re: Fed election poll!!
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2019, 06:29:26 am
So Green minority supported by NDP+Liberals ?

You been smoking the Green Party hippie reefer they got out in BC?