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Title: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Omni on July 08, 2019, 07:59:13 pm
Already an accused child sex offender and who served time for his offenses, but only 13 months due to a plea deal signed by Jim Acosta who is now Trumps minister of labor, is back in jail on similar charges. Epstein's good buddy list includes Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Allan Dershowitz, and even Prince Andrew. Accusations of sex abuse have been leveled against the last three. We shall see if this one gets swept under the rug.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/08/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-case-spotlight-famous-friends

   The sex trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein, unveiled by prosecutors from the southern district of New York in Manhattan, may have implications for many men who have come in and out of Epstein’s social circle.
Jeffrey Epstein charged with federal sex trafficking crimes
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Over the weekend, Christine Pelosi, a Democratic National Committee official and the daughter of House speaker Nancy Pelosi, warned darkly of a “horrific” case that could include names that have come up repeatedly in connection with the billionaire Wall Street financier.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: MH on July 08, 2019, 08:09:51 pm
Garbage people. :-[
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Omni on July 08, 2019, 08:26:36 pm
Garbage people. :-[

I have to wonder if tentacles from this story might not reach all the way to Trump. After all there is that old Russian "pee tape" story.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Granny on July 09, 2019, 01:19:04 am
I have to wonder if tentacles from this story might not reach all the way to Trump. After all there is that old Russian "pee tape" story.
There's more than that.
https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epstein-everything-we-know-about-his-relationship-with-trump-2019-7

President Donald Trump, ... said he'd known Epstein for "fifteen years" in a 2002 New York Magazine profile.

"Terrific guy," Trump told New York Magazine in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
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At least one accuser was working at Trump's Mar-a-Lago when they were allegedly recruited into Epstein's supposed sex trafficking operation, according to documents filed in a 2015 civil suit.
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"And the other interesting thing is Trump had a modeling agency, and Epstein also had a stake in a modeling agency, which they suspect he used to bring in underage girls from overseas."
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A suit alleging that Trump knowingly raped a 13-year-old in Epstein's Manhattan residence was filed in 2016, but was then voluntarily dismissed by the anonymous Jane Doe accuser.

The complaint, brought against Trump and Epstein, alleges that the victim attended multiple parties at Epstein's residence in the summer of 1994 that Trump also attended. An anonymous witness claimed to be an employee of Epstein.
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(Details in link)
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The plaintiff further alleged that Epstein raped her after Trump, and that both told her she and her family would be killed if she ever revealed the details of what had happened. Trump and Epstein denied the accusations. One attorney said the unnamed accuser backed out due to threats.

Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 01:39:47 am
{former} U.S. President Bill Clinton's press-secretary issues statement:

(https://i.imgur.com/TO8ffW1.png)
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 01:52:16 am
Trump... only the best people... of course, GOP Senate 'automatically' confirms the guy as Trump's Labor Secretary

U.S. DOJ opens investigation into Alexander Acosta plea deal (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/06/alexander-acosta-plea-deal-1152371)

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The Justice Department said Wednesday that it's investigating a plea deal that Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta negotiated with billionaire **** Jeffery Epstein while serving as a U.S. attorney in 2008.

In a letter to Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd wrote that the Office of Professional Responsibility had “opened an investigation into allegations that department attorneys may have committed professional misconduct in the manner in which the Epstein criminal matter was resolved.“

“OPR will thoroughly investigate the allegations of misconduct that have been raised,” Boyd wrote, “and, consistent with its practice, will share the results with you at the conclusion of its investigation as appropriate.”

Although nearly all of the key details of the plea bargain were known to senators at the time Acosta was confirmed as Labor secretary, the strikingly lenient arrangement, under which Epstein served a year and enjoyed daily furloughs to his office, received new scrutiny this year when the Miami Herald published a lengthy reexamination of the case.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Granny on July 09, 2019, 02:13:00 am
20 women have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault?
The Forgettysberg Address
https://youtu.be/d7Ox89N0ETk
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Omni on July 09, 2019, 11:46:49 am
Looks like Alex Acosta, the current labor secretary selected by Trump, could be one of the first to go. He is now under heavy scrutiny over the totally unrealistic sweetheart deal he arranged for child molester \epstein when he was a state attorney in Florida. I suspect/hope he won't be the last.   

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) will call on Tuesday for Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta to resign amid growing criticism about his ties to financier Jeffrey Epstein, a source close to the Democratic leader confirmed to The Hill.

“@SecretaryAcosta must step down,” Pelosi tweeted. “As US Attorney, he engaged in an unconscionable agreement w/ Jeffrey Epstein kept secret from courageous, young victims preventing them from seeking justice. This was known by @POTUS when he appointed him to the cabinet.”
 
Schumer and Pelosi are part of a growing chorus of voices calling for Acosta to resign over the 2008 deal.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/452145-schumer-calls-on-acosta-to-step-down-over-epstein
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 12:22:42 pm
renewed and rigourous investigative reporting (from Miami Herald) quite literally forced the hand of law enforcement/prosecutors to re-open:

timeline & links to 3-part series (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221404845.html):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjn6rcJqsI
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Goddess on July 09, 2019, 12:25:01 pm
There's apparently a prominent "Prime Minister" involved, too.  But no word on which country the "Prime Minister" is associated with.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 12:35:58 pm
There's apparently a prominent "Prime Minister" involved, too.  But no word on which country the "Prime Minister" is associated with.

involved??? C'mon... no evidence has tied Epstein "friend" {former British Prime Minister} Tony Blair to said "involvement". It seems British tabloids are running with names showing in a phone/address book... such names just "under the B's" as... Tony Blair, Michael Bloomberg, Richard Branson...
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 12:44:12 pm
if you're looking for a new Twitter handle to follow... the waldo suggests 'Ken White'... aka @Popehat - a most interesting character who currently practices First Amendment law, civil litigation, and criminal defense; active in podcasts; a contributing writer to The Atlantic, etc:

Quote from: Ken White, former Federal Prosecutor
Great wealth insulates people from consequences, but not always, absolutely, or forever. And even the richest people in America lack the implacable, mindless power of the criminal-justice system. Now that Epstein’s past plea deal is public and radioactively controversial, he’s unlikely to get another one. Epstein will have the best criminal defense money can buy, again. But this time, that will probably not be enough to save him.

It is customary, when faced with the grotesque inequalities of the criminal-justice system, to decry the preferential treatment that people such as Jeffrey Epstein enjoy. Rather than complain that Epstein got too much justice, it would be far more productive to complain that most people get too little. Adequately funded criminal defense, bail reform, and other commonsense changes would do far more to improve the system than the prosecution of an occasional billionaire.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Omni on July 09, 2019, 01:21:38 pm
Trump NOW says he is not a fan of Epsteins. Apparently he used to consider him a "terrific guy" who liked young girls just like he did.

In 2002, told New York magazine that he had known Epstein for more than a decade and called him a “terrific guy” who is “a lot of fun to be with ... It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/trump-not-a-fan-of-jeffrey-epstein-accused-sex-trafficker.html

Initially I didn't quite understand what Trump meant by "draining the swamp", but now I'm getting it. I don't think he anticipated being so close to this type of whirlpool though. 
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: ?Impact on July 09, 2019, 01:25:46 pm
{former} U.S. President Bill Clinton's press-secretary issues statement:

We should remember that the Lewinski affair happened under the eyes of the Secret Service as well so saying they were present is meaningless.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 05:17:21 pm
We should remember that the Lewinski affair happened under the eyes of the Secret Service as well so saying they were present is meaningless.

MAGAites & RussianBots are out in full force mega-deflection mode attacking Clinton with accusations related to Epstein.

fwiw: Secret Service outside a closed-door room directly off the Oval Office might not have a logistical parallel to Secret Service "turning a blind eye" to an underage girl visiting a hotel room
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: waldo on July 09, 2019, 05:29:58 pm
There's apparently a prominent "Prime Minister" involved, too.  But no word on which country the "Prime Minister" is associated with.

involved??? C'mon... no evidence has tied Epstein "friend" {former British Prime Minister} Tony Blair to said "involvement". It seems British tabloids are running with names showing in a phone/address book... such names just "under the B's" as... Tony Blair, Michael Bloomberg, Richard Branson...

mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

as it turns out, the recent July 3rd U.S. Appeals Court decision includes the following background (accusation) reference:

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On December 30, 2014, two additional unnamed victims — one of whom has now self‐identified as Plaintiff‐Appellee Virginia Giuffre (“Giuffre”)—petitioned to join in the CVRA case. These petitioners included in their filings not only descriptions of sexual abuse by Epstein, but also new allegations of sexual abuse by several other prominent individuals, “including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well‐known Prime Minister, and other world leaders, ”as well as Dershowitz (along‐time member of the Harvard Law School faculty who had worked on Epstein’s legal defense) and Defendant‐Appellee Ghislaine Maxwell (“Maxwell”)
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: eyeball on July 09, 2019, 05:30:18 pm
We should remember that the Lewinski affair happened under the eyes of the Secret Service as well so saying they were present is meaningless.
Reminds me of the stories about Western troops who were told to ignore it when our Afghan allies raped little boys.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on August 12, 2019, 02:23:02 pm
Let's face it, the idea that someone powerful who was once a client of Epstein could have conspired to "off" Epstein is a fun conspiracy theory.  Straight out of a hollywood movie.  I'm not one for conspiracy theories but i'm going to grab the popcorn and let this one play out.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Omni on August 12, 2019, 02:40:30 pm
Let's face it, the idea that someone powerful who was once a client of Epstein could have conspired to "off" Epstein is a fun conspiracy theory.  Straight out of a hollywood movie.  I'm not one for conspiracy theories but i'm going to grab the popcorn and let this one play out.

I think this particular conspiracy theory is too stupid to be compared to anything Hollywood would do but rather it comes from the donald Trump grab bag of nonsense. I wouldn't waste a bag of popcorn.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: Granny on August 13, 2019, 05:14:04 am
Let's face it, the idea that someone powerful who was once a client of Epstein could have conspired to "off" Epstein is a fun conspiracy theory.  Straight out of a hollywood movie.  I'm not one for conspiracy theories but i'm going to grab the popcorn and let this one play out.
The Beaverton, satire ... but so true!

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/08/americas-wealthy-perverts-unsure-which-of-them-actually-staged-epstein-suicide/

Sources also indicate that, of all the Epstein assassins working for high profile degenerates, none accepted contracts from President Trump because they knew they would never get paid.”

Lol
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: MH on November 08, 2019, 08:05:10 pm
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/11/05/abcs_amy_robach_frustrated_on_hot_mic_that_network_quashed_jeffrey_epstein_story.html

This tape seems like conspiracy stuff but apparently not fake.
Title: Re: Oh how the mighty may start to fall: Jeffrey Epstein case.
Post by: SuperColinBlow on January 28, 2020, 11:29:35 pm
Prince Andrew playing dogdy with US prosecutors.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51271871