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Beyond Ottawa => Provincial and Local Politics => Topic started by: wilber on June 07, 2019, 04:47:13 pm

Title: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 07, 2019, 04:47:13 pm
Victoria Silly Council does it again and votes to bill DND and Veterans Affairs for Remembrance day costs. On the 75th anniversary of D Day yet.

Where do they find these donkey's.

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/victoria-councillor-suggests-billing-military-for-events-like-remembrance-day-1.4455665

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/victoria-councillor-military-expenses-commemorative-events-1.5166382
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: MH on June 07, 2019, 07:42:32 pm
I, (a leftist) CALL THEM OUT.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: the_squid on June 07, 2019, 08:11:42 pm
Meh...   the debate about the budget was slated for that day.   Poor timing given that it was D-day anniversary, but thereís nothing wrong with debating about whether the city should be spending the funds.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 07, 2019, 10:55:44 pm
They passed it.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 07, 2019, 11:02:03 pm
Meh...   the debate about the budget was slated for that day.   Poor timing given that it was D-day anniversary, but thereís nothing wrong with debating about whether the city should be spending the funds.
Aside from the disrespect, the cost is a drop in the bucket compared to what the Esquimalt naval base contributes to that community.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: the_squid on June 08, 2019, 12:53:15 am
Aside from the disrespect, the cost is a drop in the bucket compared to what the Esquimalt naval base contributes to that community.

I can see why DND should be responsible for those costs and not a city. 
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: TimG on June 08, 2019, 02:26:40 am
I can see why DND should be responsible for those costs and not a city.
So according to your logic the Canadian government should cover Canada costs and the provincial government should cover BC day costs and christian churches should cover costs of any christmas celebrations. It is nonsensical thinking. These events are put on because a significant number of taxpayers/residence of Victoria benefit from them and want them. That is the only criteria that matters when determining who should pay.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 08, 2019, 09:13:18 am
I can see why DND should be responsible for those costs and not a city.

Remembrance Day is not a military event, it is the day the country pays its respects to the people who sacrificed and died so the people of Victoria could have the right to elect donkeys to their city council. These people have no respect, they want Veterans Affairs to help pay for it. But hey, itís Victoria, we should be used to it by now.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: the_squid on June 08, 2019, 01:07:29 pm
Remembrance Day is not a military event, it is the day the country pays its respects to the people who sacrificed and died so the people of Victoria could have the right to elect donkeys to their city council. These people have no respect, they want Veterans Affairs to help pay for it. But hey, itís Victoria, we should be used to it by now.

Veterans Affairs then.  That does make more sense.  Thanks.


 
So according to your logic the Canadian government should cover Canada costs and the provincial government should cover BC day costs and christian churches should cover costs of any christmas celebrations. It is nonsensical thinking. These events are put on because a significant number of taxpayers/residence of Victoria benefit from them and want them. That is the only criteria that matters when determining who should pay.

It makes total sense that Veterans Affairs cover Remembrance Day costs.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 08, 2019, 02:12:55 pm
Veterans Affairs then.  That does make more sense.  Thanks.


 
It makes total sense that Veterans Affairs cover Remembrance Day costs.


So you think vets should pay to honour themselves. How big of you.

Thanks for your service, the bill will be in the mail.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: TimG on June 08, 2019, 07:03:42 pm
It makes total sense that Veterans Affairs cover Remembrance Day costs.
Only if the city of Victoria stops funding ALL activities related to any holiday or special event. Using your logic, there is simply no justification for saddling the taxpayers of Victoria with these event costs unless 100% of the citizens are in favor of paying such costs.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 08, 2019, 08:51:07 pm
Apparently the cost for these events is 15K. .006 of the cityís budget.

This is the same guy who was against the Invictus Games. Apparently a bunch of people with PTSD and missing limbs glorifies war.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: the_squid on June 09, 2019, 12:43:30 am

So you think vets should pay to honour themselves. How big of you.

Thanks for your service, the bill will be in the mail.

No, Canadians should. Veterans Affairs is taxpayer funded.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: MH on June 09, 2019, 07:42:04 am
Apparently the cost for these events is 15K. .006 of the cityís budget.
 

Easy for you to say.  Are you one of the residents who has to deprive his family of 16 cents to make this work ?  </sarcasm>
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 09, 2019, 10:00:41 am
No, Canadians should. Veterans Affairs is taxpayer funded.

You would be taking money intended for veterans and giving it to the city so the people of the city can pay tribute to the veterans. Remembrance Day would just be an exercise in hypocrisy. Better for Victoria just ignore it as they donít really believe in it anyway.

Why have a cenotaph, they can put it in storage with the statue of JohN A.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on June 14, 2019, 11:36:28 am
Vets boycott Victoria
https://theprovince.com/opinion/columnists/mike-smyth-navy-veterans-boycotting-victoria-over-remembrance-day-spending-flap

Victoria city council eats crow.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/victoria-council-opts-to-keep-funding-remembrance-day-policing-mayor-apologizes-to-veterans


Except for Isitt. Anyone who disagrees with him is as good as a NAZI.

Isitt's response.

https://medium.com/@ben.isitt/priorities-and-distractions-statement-from-ben-isitt-historian-and-victoria-city-councillor-421f8e2c52e3
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on July 01, 2019, 11:18:39 pm
They passed it.

What a bunch of disgusting ungrateful hooligans.  Reason 23463213 i would never want to live in BC, which is too bad because it's beautiful.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: Omni on July 02, 2019, 02:48:08 am
What a bunch of disgusting ungrateful hooligans.  Reason 23463213 i would never want to live in BC, which is too bad because it's beautiful.

I guess you're more the "buck a beer type" eh?
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on July 02, 2019, 12:59:37 pm
I guess you're more the "buck a beer type" eh?

I literally can't name you the last time Ontario elected a government that wasn't an absolute embarrassment, it's been at least 30 years if not more.

Maybe I should live in the maritimes, they seem not totally insane there.  Working-class people who aren't ignorant conservative dolts.
Title: Re: Victoria Does it Again
Post by: wilber on July 02, 2019, 01:31:11 pm
What a bunch of disgusting ungrateful hooligans.  Reason 23463213 i would never want to live in BC, which is too bad because it's beautiful.

Victoria is a kind of world of its own.