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Title: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 27, 2019, 03:09:42 am
I am hoping to quit alcohol finally. I am 30 hours sober.

Does anyone else on this forum have troubles with the bottle?
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: TimG on April 27, 2019, 08:35:02 am
I suggest AA. If nothing else it will give you a chance to meet and learn from people who have been where you are now but have managed to stay sober for years.

You should also talk to you doctor. Quitting suddenly can cause serious health issues, such as seizures, depending on how much you have been drinking and for how long. These issues are easily managed with medical help.

Also, talk to your doctor about drugs that reduce physical craving such as Naltrexone. These drugs are *not* a magic pill that makes the problem go away but every little bit helps in these early stages.

Finally, stick with it. If you have been drinking for a long time the next 6-12 months will be absolute hell. But if you can persevere your life will get better than it has been for a long time.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Michael Hardner on April 27, 2019, 08:40:26 am
You can do it.  I had my last smoke, maybe ever, 11 months ago.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Omni on April 27, 2019, 11:58:10 am
You can do it.  I had my last smoke, maybe ever, 11 months ago.

Good on ya. How's that going now, are you still jones'n once in awhile or are you beyond that? One reason I ask is that I had a discussion with an old buddy of mine who had quit for almost as many years as have I. He made the comment that went something like "once a smoker, always a smoker", which was to suggest that no matter how long you have quit for, given the right circumstances, any reformed smoker who had been a heavy smoker would go buy a pack. I told him I couldn't disagree more. I quit smoking because I just got to hate it and even if I was told I had say 6 months to live from some other cause I might do some crazy **** but never would I pick up a smoke. I still hate even being near people who have the smell of cigarette smoke on their clothes. Point being I guess is that if I can wean myself that effectively than anybody can. One incentive of course is just get the calculator out and tote up how much Do-Rey-Me you have saved so far. Carry on with the program.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Michael Hardner on April 27, 2019, 04:30:22 pm
Good on ya. How's that going now, are you still jones'n once in awhile or are you beyond that?

I don't Jones anymore.

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One reason I ask is that I had a discussion with an old buddy of mine who had quit for almost as many years as have I. He made the comment that went something like "once a smoker, always a smoker", which was to suggest that no matter how long you have quit for, given the right circumstances, any reformed smoker who had been a heavy smoker would go buy a pack. I told him I couldn't disagree more. I quit smoking because I just got to hate it and even if I was told I had say 6 months to live from some other cause I might do some crazy **** but never would I pick up a smoke. I still hate even being near people who have the smell of cigarette smoke on their clothes. Point being I guess is that if I can wean myself that effectively than anybody can. One incentive of course is just get the calculator out and tote up how much Do-Rey-Me you have saved so far. Carry on with the program.

I actually agree with your friend and if I ever make it to Burning Man again I plan to smoke all week.  Don't try to talk me out of it.  Not going for 5 years at least though.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: TimG on April 27, 2019, 05:00:51 pm
It takes a special type of moron to mark a post of someone asking for help as "dumb" and then do the same to the only response directly addressing the question asked. Makes me wonder what squid's real issues are.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 27, 2019, 05:53:42 pm
Thanks for the advice. I have tried AA.  However where I am situated, I lost four friends/acquaintances in a 2 month span in early 2018.  I ahve soured on AA since. Now days, the rooms are packed with non-drinkers (AA now accepts anyone with addictions).  The room are full of people in treatment centres, and many have problems with hard drugs. It was not always like this, but sadly it is now.

I am trying some meditation and volunteering. I feel if I grow as a person, I can get the confidence to not drink. I am not a full blown alcoholic, but I have a bad habit of drinking too much.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 27, 2019, 06:02:01 pm
Squid has many issues.  Maybe as many as I.  He once threatened to physically assault me on this forum.

Reported to the mod.  Provide evidence and the Mod will ban me immediately.  Accusations of physical threats are not something to be trolling with.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: TimG on April 27, 2019, 06:12:45 pm
I am trying some meditation and volunteering. I feel if I grow as a person, I can get the confidence to not drink. I am not a full blown alcoholic, but I have a bad habit of drinking too much.
You also do not have to be a 'full blown alcoholic' to find it difficult to stop once you start. It might be worth thinking about why you don't have a problem with drugs. Is it the illegality? The fear of the side effects? An effective technique can be to take whatever instinct you have that tells you to avoid that crap and apply it to alcohol. i.e. tell yourself over and over again that alcohol is as bad as hard drugs. If you do it enough your mind will start to believe you and avoiding alcohol will become instinctive.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 27, 2019, 06:27:57 pm
Reported to the mod.  Provide evidence and the Mod will ban me immediately.  Accusations of physical threats are not something to be trolling with.

If you tried, I’d punch you in the throat.   I don’t accept hugs from strangers.

Thread: Gender Culture
Date: Jan 30, 2019
link: https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/general-discussion/gender-culture/msg40139/#msg40139
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 27, 2019, 06:34:00 pm
Thread: Gender Culture
Date: Jan 30, 2019
link: https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/general-discussion/gender-culture/msg40139/#msg40139

Lol

Yeah, ban me now....   
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 28, 2019, 08:34:11 am
Lol

Yeah, ban me now....

Not only have you derailed a thread, and made it about yourself. You also are a self-proclaimed snitch.  For your own sake, I sure hope you are never incarcerated. 
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 28, 2019, 02:52:53 pm
Not only have you derailed a thread, and made it about yourself. You also are a self-proclaimed snitch.  For your own sake, I sure hope you are never incarcerated.

I never posted anything in this topic until you and TimG thought it was necessary to mention me, and you lied about me threatening you.    But please carry on talking about your sobriety. 
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: TimG on April 28, 2019, 03:29:53 pm
I never posted anything in this topic until you and TimG thought it was necessary to mention me, and you lied about me threatening you.    But please carry on talking about your sobriety.
You are the one ignorant enough to mark a perfectly reasonable post as "dumb". If you have a problem with it explain yourself. Marking posts with drive by "dumb" ratings is simply rude and I called you out for your inconsiderate behavior. If you don't want to get involved in a thread then don't get involved with drive by ratings.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 28, 2019, 04:13:16 pm
You are the one ignorant enough to mark a perfectly reasonable post as "dumb". If you have a problem with it explain yourself. Marking posts with drive by "dumb" ratings is simply rude and I called you out for your inconsiderate behavior. If you don't want to get involved in a thread then don't get involved with drive by ratings.

 Just post on-topic and don’t worry about the post ratings...   it’s not quite as serious as you’re taking it.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: TimG on April 28, 2019, 05:43:02 pm
Just post on-topic and don’t worry about the post ratings...   it’s not quite as serious as you’re taking it.
You obviously think it is important enough to constantly hand out drive by "f**-yous". If it is not important then don't do it. Otherwise, expect to be called out for being a jerk.
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 28, 2019, 10:13:47 pm
Squid,

I think we got off on the wrong foot. I am prepared to let bygones be bygones. It's an internet forum after all. I hope we can one day become friends, and if you are ever in Winnipeg or Calgary, maybe even go for a coffee. 

Let's quit bickering for the benefit of the forum. What do you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FfJ89rGPc
Title: Re: Quitting Alcohol & Other Vices
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 28, 2019, 11:18:49 pm
You obviously think it is important enough to constantly hand out drive by "f**-yous". If it is not important then don't do it. Otherwise, expect to be called out for being a jerk.

There are “**** you” ratings???   I missed those...