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Beyond Politics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Michael Hardner on September 12, 2018, 06:03:06 am
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Well, another storm is coming - Florence is her name.
Have you been through extreme weather ? I haven't, really. There was the big storm in Toronto in 1998 (I think it was) but there wasn't even any power loss for us.
You ?
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Well, another storm is coming - Florence is her name.
Have you been through extreme weather ? I haven't, really. There was the big storm in Toronto in 1998 (I think it was) but there wasn't even any power loss for us.
You ?
My first overseas trip was to the Philippines and I was based the first month there on a ship in the South China Sea. I got there just in time for typhoon Ruby to bare her teeth. We did a lot of rockin' and rollin' for about 3 days. Winds on the bridge hit up to 112kts. Thankfully I'm not prone to motion sickness but there were a number of crew members who didn't stray far from the heads.
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3 days! How did you eat, sleep, poop ?
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Many big storms. Had many power outages, sometimes for days. That’s life on the island if you live in a rural area. Worked through a bunch of storms on boats in the Straits...
But 2 recent times come to mind:
Was caught out fishing in the “Unsinkable Laegend” when the weather came in. We saw water spouts forming on our way back in... cool sight, but not when you’re out in a 4 foot chop, gusting 40 knots. In hindsight, I should’ve stopped to take photos... but they probably would’ve been blurry anyway. Couldn’t make it back to our original launch, so we had to bum a ride back to our boat and trailer from a more sheltered launch. Was quite an adventure.
Drove through blizzard conditions from Hope to Jasper... north of Jasper it was blowing snow making for horrendous visibility.... around Peace River, it was freezing rain! Not a pleasant drive to Yellowknife that winter...
ETA: Never been at sea in the weather Omni is talking about... yikes...
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3 days! How did you eat, sleep, poop ?
Ah pooping was no problem, the heads continued to work fine. You just had to hunt around to find one someone wasn't kneeling in front of, and "praying" into. For around 2 of the days the galley was shut down. I guess they figured the fried eggs could end up flipping themselves. There was a stash of energy bars and such on board for just such an event. They get a little boring after awhile but at least something to munch on. Sleeping was the most difficult at least for me. Not sure how familiar you are with "sea terms" but you have what are called lee cloths which is like kind of window blind made of canvas that unrolls from below the berth and then hooks in up above. This is to keep you from being thrown out of your berth as she rolls, but constantly being thrown from side to side, even if you don't fall out, does not make for a good nights sleep. I was sitting chatting with the captain of the vessel during some of the worst of the storm and during one of those rolls I said to him " I think sometimes this things is going to just keep right on rolling" even though it always did stop and then start it's roll the other way. He replied that the way we were loaded it would always right itself from rolls. Just about then a wave hit us on the stern, which which was flat shaped, and that felt like I imagine it would feel to be rear ended in your car, and the ship gave about 3 shudders as that impact made its way along the length of the ship. The captain said "now that's what worries me because that shudder is what can break these ships up, and since we are in the stern which is the heaviest part, it would break off first". OK now I felt much better knowing we wouldn't likele roll over, but we might just snap off and head for Davey Jones but at least we'd be right side up.
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Another scrape I had with some significant weather was not wind but rainfall. This was on an island off the west coast of Africa that was known for its annual rainy season, but this year even the locals were saying it was heavier than usual. The island is volcanic and it's highest elevation is just under 10,000 feet. The roadways were down closer to sea level. I drove to the airport early one morning with the rain pounding down like it had been for days and as I approached a bridge that crossed a river that drained the flow down the mountain, here comes a large tree, roots first that had obviously been flooded out somewhere up the mountainside and it hit the bridge knocking it off its center stanchion and on down toward the sea. Thankfully that tree had to good graces to crash the bridge while we were on the same side of the river as was our residences, and even more so not while we were on it. We turned around and headed back to see about a plan B as we thought this was the only road to the airport. Turned out there was another one but it required a slow, lengthy, very bumpy trip with a 4x4 through the jungle.
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And as global warming continues there will be more and more Florences to deal with. I'll bet there will be some really good deals on waterfron property in the Carolina s soon if anyone wants to take a chance.
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I just heard on a news channel that NASA has recorded waves as high as 83 feet in this storm. Now I'm no expert but that seems like a big wave. Yikes!
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And as global warming continues there will be more and more Florences to deal with.
I think it's fewer storms but bigger.
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83 feet? That is not just above the deck, it is above the masthead.
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Apparently a large swath of the US east coast is about to get "****"
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/massive-hurricane-baring-down-on-america-takes-cheeky-and-distinct-shape/news-story/c82cd5d5beb9bed57b53486052c93eae
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You don't have to put the f-word in quotes you know. We understand you're not using it literally. :D
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You don't have to put the f-word in quotes you know. We understand you're not using it literally. :D
I might be if I was living in Wilmington.
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Degregdation of 'literally' 😂
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Degregdation of 'literally' 😂
Literally.
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When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?
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When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?
It's that damned jetstream which has moved way south and is sucking cold air from the arctic. I felt the effects of it once upon a time when I was in the Florida Keys. I was pissed off.
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It has been very cold here in Southern Alberta for the last 10 days or so. Finally, the worst is over, and we can look forward to single negative digits by Monday.
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The jetstream comes in handy when it's giving you a 100 knot tailwind heading east over Greenland to Heathrow etc. Other than thatit's a "cold" pain in the ass.
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It's been very warm here where I live, as I cuddle up inside Donald Trump's puckering ****.
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It's been very warm here where I live, as I cuddle up inside Donald Trump's puckering ****.
Too bad mlw is offline just now. Many of the members there do that as well.
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When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?
There was no snowstorm here (west coast) yesterday.
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This polar vortex can **** off any time now before I stab myself in the throat. Gah!
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Snow again!
Bring it on! I love snow.
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Snow again!
Bring it on! I love snow.
Hey, you're welcome to come love some of mine out the friggin' driveway.
Actually it's warming up a bit with rain in the forecast overnight so it may just move itself.
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The snow is finally dwindling faster than my pile of firewood and the sun is back in the forecast - I think I can afford to hunker down another day.
Still 4 meter seas out there too so...who needs that?
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Speaking of weather, I just listened to a discussion with Bill Gates who suggests in order to stabilize the climate, we not only need to stop burning fossil fuels, we also have to stop cows from farting, and burping. Having grown up on a farm I suggest the latter will be much harder than the former.
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Speaking of weather, I just listened to a discussion with Bill Gates who suggests in order to stabilize the climate, we not only need to stop burning fossil fuels, we also have to stop cows from farting, and burping. Having grown up on a farm I suggest the latter will be much harder than the former.
I saw that as well, although he did an extremely poor job explaining the methane cycle. It is important to note that methane lingers in the atmosphere for about a decade, while C02 lingers well over a century. Methane however causes far more warming per ton than C02, almost 30 times as much. Fortunately there is far less methane in the atmosphere than C02, by several hundred times (if you look at how they are measured, C02 is generally in ppm while methane is in ppb - million vs. billion).
Cows, and other ruminants, are a significant part of methane production but still only about 15% overall. The largest source of methane is rice farming. Note that both of these are directly related to human activities, and are issues we can address through alternatives in our diet.
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I saw that as well, although he did an extremely poor job explaining the methane cycle. It is important to note that methane lingers in the atmosphere for about a decade, while C02 lingers well over a century. Methane however causes far more warming per ton than C02, almost 30 times as much. Fortunately there is far less methane in the atmosphere than C02, by several hundred times (if you look at how they are measured, C02 is generally in ppm while methane is in ppb - million vs. billion).
Cows, and other ruminants, are a significant part of methane production but still only about 15% overall. The largest source of methane is rice farming. Note that both of these are directly related to human activities, and are issues we can address through alternatives in our diet.
We are also seeing increases in methane as it is released from thawing arctic tundra.
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We are also seeing increases in methane as it is released from thawing arctic tundra.
Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.
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Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.
I have driven the ice road between Inuvik and Tuk and was surprised the many years later at all the problems they had putting in the year round version because of the depths to which the tundra thaws these days.
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Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.
Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
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Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
waldo hypothesizes: you're incorrect - per Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres: (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0095-z)
Methane (CH4) is a potent greenhouse gas that is roughly 30 times more harmful to the climate than carbon dioxide (CO2). Both gases are produced in thawing permafrost as dead animal and plant remains are decomposed. However, methane is only formed if no oxygen is available. Until now, it was assumed that larger amounts of greenhouse gases are formed when the ground was dry and well aerated—when oxygen was available. Christian Knoblauch and his colleagues have now demonstrated that water-saturated permafrost soils without oxygen can be twice as harmful to the climate as dry soils—which means the role of methane has been greatly underestimated.
Knoblauch has, for the first time, measured and quantified in the laboratory the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost. The team had to wait for three years before the approximately 40,000 year-old samples from the Siberian Arctic finally produced methane. The team observed the permafrost for a total of seven years, an unprecedented long-term study.
They found that without oxygen, equal amounts of methane and CO2 are produced. But since methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas, it is more significant. Because methane production couldn't be measured, it was assumed that in the absence of oxygen only very small amounts of it can be formed. "It takes an extremely long time until stable methane-producing microorganisms develop in thawing permafrost," explains Knoblauch. "That's why it was so difficult to demonstrate methane production until now."
"By combining process-based and molecular-microbiological methods, our study shows for the first time that the methane-forming microorganisms in the thawing permafrost have significant influence on the greenhouse gas budget," adds co-author Susanne Liebner from the Helmholtz Center Potsdam—GFZ German Research Center for Geosciences.
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Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Maybe just take a trip up north in the summer and you will see it's not an "experiment" it's reality.
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waldo hypothesizes: you're incorrect - per Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres: (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0095-z)
I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.
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I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.
1.4 million sq. km's of arctic ice melt is not a hypothesis.
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I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.
in regards the discussion of 'thawing permafrost' (relative to that fifth of the Northern Hemisphere landmass that is permafrost), my emphasis was on your oft repeated references to, "an inability to repeat experimentally". The study I linked to is, I interpret, the first to laboratory control measure/quantify the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost... particularly the emphasis on methane production in water-saturated (absent oxygen) permafrost versus dry-soil permafrost... an addition to and reinforcement of the warming feedback due to melting ice uncovering and destabilizing tundra permafrost.
this measurable data will enable more accurate projections about the impacts of thawing permafrost... perhaps leading towards an eventual inclusion of feedbacks from thawing permafrost in IPCC projections; now absent from current models/modeling.
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Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Just like playing Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in a revolver is simply a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
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in regards the discussion of 'thawing permafrost' (relative to that fifth of the Northern Hemisphere landmass that is permafrost), my emphasis was on your oft repeated references to, "an inability to repeat experimentally". The study I linked to is, I interpret, the first to laboratory control measure/quantify the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost... particularly the emphasis on methane production in water-saturated (absent oxygen) permafrost versus dry-soil permafrost... an addition to and reinforcement of the warming feedback due to melting ice uncovering and destabilizing tundra permafrost.
this measurable data will enable more accurate projections about the impacts of thawing permafrost... perhaps leading towards an eventual inclusion of feedbacks from thawing permafrost in IPCC projections; now absent from current models/modeling.
I have also encountered the argument from certain climate change deniers that increased ice sheet over certain areas of the antarctic ocean is proof global warming can't be happening. Then you show the data that points out that reduced ocean surface salinity due to increased precipitation caused by warmer air/sea temperatures is ironically the cause of that ice. Meanwhile of course the Thwaites Glacier continues to slip off the land and into the sea. Psst, don't buy land in Miami.
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Just like playing Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in a revolver is simply a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Except it has. People have done it and died. Your analogy fails for another reason because you assume there is a trigger that is actually under our control. There is not. Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered. The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process. This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
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If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board. :D
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Except it has. People have done it and died. Your analogy fails for another reason because you assume there is a trigger that is actually under our control. There is not. Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered. The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process. This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
Well let's see, I am sure you have heard by now that cars, for instance, will run on things opther than gas or diesel. Is it not our choice which kind of car we buy next time we need one?
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Well let's see, I am sure you have heard by now that cars, for instance, will run on things opther than gas or diesel. Is it not our choice which kind of car we buy next time we need one?
Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas. Then you have the awkward problem is our grid cannot handle a significant number of EVs and no politician wants to talk about who has to pay for those upgrades because they don't lend themselves to cool slogans or photo shoots.
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Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas.
I bet you argue that the problem with wind and solar is that we don't have storage technology, and now you argue that storage technology must rely on fossil fuels. I would say both your glasses are half empty.
Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered.
Again, you ignore the many alternatives like reducing our consumption of meat. Lower GHG emissions, lower land usage, significantly lower water usage, etc. Same applies to shelter. We don't need to live in climate controlled monster mansions and offices with zero insulation.
The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process.
Again, for the 103954731935717834th time, the economy is an artificial construct and it is what we make it to be. The environment is real, the economy is not.
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If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board.
There have been doom mongers saying the apocalypse is coming for 1000s of years. None of them were right. Go back to the 70s an read the "predictions" of doom caused by overpopulation. Given the history of failure the safe bet is that the doom mongers will be wrong again.
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I bet you argue that the problem with wind and solar is that we don't have storage technology, and now you argue that storage technology must rely on fossil fuels. I would say both your glasses are half empty.
Fossil fuels are the storage technology that is available. Without them wind and solar and EVs are useless.
Again, you ignore the many alternatives like reducing our consumption of meat. Lower GHG emissions, lower land usage, significantly lower water usage, etc. Same applies to shelter. We don't need to live in climate controlled monster mansions and offices with zero insulation.
A laundry list of the mantras from the church of the eco-apocalypse. I am sure you would love it if we reduced our standard of living to the level of Somali or Haiti but most people want the comforts that come from a modern society and cherry picking those comforts that you don't happen to want to use does not make you any different.
Again, for the 103954731935717834th time, the economy is an artificial construct and it is what we make it to be. The environment is real, the economy is not.
BS. The economy is the blood that keeps society going. Without it flowing no one will care about environmental concerns because the could not afford to do anything about them even if they did care. That is why the economy matters first.
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Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas. Then you have the awkward problem is our grid cannot handle a significant number of EVs and no politician wants to talk about who has to pay for those upgrades because they don't lend themselves to cool slogans or photo shoots.
You seem to think that in order to have a viable economy we need to keep polluting the air with fossil fuels. If we all keep on that type of blinders we certainly will have a failing economy. Only so much crap left under the dirt.
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The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process. This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
Killing the economy will destroy the world - what else do people need to know?
"Economic alarmist" seems like a reasonable label to me.
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If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board. :D
Easter Island is often given as an example of what we might expect. Not exactly the end of the world or even the economy but definitely not what it used to be.
So long as the supply ships keep coming Easter Islanders will do just fine.
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We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA. There’s an EC air quality warning out.
Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....
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We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA. There’s an EC air quality warning out.
Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....
The fuel dock looking towards Granville Island doesn’t look hazy right now... (17:30)
I'm in Surrey, and was thinking if spending the afternoon on the patio, but the smoke was too much, made my throat hurt.
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Smoky from the American wildfires again today. It’s pretty gross. Acrid smell and a slight burning in the eyes....
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The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks. The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.
(https://i.imgur.com/6NfmQ.jpeg)
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The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks. The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.
Not to worry.... if you look past your own backyard, you’ll find that too...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
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I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.
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It's a little better out here on the coast today but still not very pleasant. I talked with a couple of fishermen who were miles and miles out at sea who say it was no better and even worse at times. An approaching low with southeast winds and rain should help but there's a lot of smoke out there.
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Wasn't too bad earlier this morning where we are. The sun wasn't red for a change. Did a 5K walk this morning wearing a mask and that wasn't very pleasant. Been running the furnace fan with a MERV 13 filter and it seems to help the inside air quality.
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I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.
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I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.
Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er. His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep. One less thing right? Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.
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I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.
Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er. His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep. One less thing right? Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.
Did you ever try these? My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.
(https://www.londondrugs.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-londondrugs-master/default/dw56ff1feb/products/L7858293/large/L7858293.JPG)
I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose. The Sleep Rights work well for me.
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Did you ever try these? My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.
(https://www.londondrugs.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-londondrugs-master/default/dw56ff1feb/products/L7858293/large/L7858293.JPG)
I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose. The Sleep Rights work well for me.
I usually flip and flop around so much I'd probably knock them loose but I'll give them a whirl, thanks. I tried wearing earplugs to blank out the noise of waves slapping against the hull and the groaning of wooden timbers and such when sleeping in big seas at night. Firing up the engine to mask the noise actually worked better. If I could sleep standing up I would because nothing seems to clear up a bent windpipe faster. Sleeping pills don't seem to do a thing for me. I suppose I could reinforce that with booze but I'd just have to wake up again and I'd probably be even crankier than usual so...
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I usually flip and flop around so much I'd probably knock them loose but I'll give them a whirl, thanks. I tried wearing earplugs to blank out the noise of waves slapping against the hull and the groaning of wooden timbers and such when sleeping in big seas at night. Firing up the engine to mask the noise actually worked better. If I could sleep standing up I would because nothing seems to clear up a bent windpipe faster. Sleeping pills don't seem to do a thing for me. I suppose I could reinforce that with booze but I'd just have to wake up again and I'd probably be even crankier than usual so...
Yeah, I wear earplugs too. The train is too close. I shelled out for the fitted ones at ~$150 and they do a pretty good job.
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Gusting 55 knots at Sisters Island today. Bloody nautical out there on the beach today!
13:00 ESE 43 gust 55
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I have 3 separate sets of friends who have moved out to that area in the last 10 years.
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Had a very nice walk along the dike this morning. Cloudy but dry with little wind, temperature about 7 degrees. This time of year I love watching the Trumpeter Swans taking off from the canal to head over to the fields for the day. They fly like large aircraft. Long takeoff runs, then they accelerate in ground effect before climbing. When they land, they fly a base leg to scrub off speed with the wing tips arcing down to act like flaps and using their big feet as speed brakes before they flare and land. Majestic. I sometimes wonder if they weren't an inspiration for the Klingon Bird of Prey with their long necks.
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Had a very nice walk along the dike this morning. Cloudy but dry with little wind, temperature about 7 degrees. This time of year I love watching the Trumpeter Swans taking off from the canal to head over to the fields for the day. They fly like large aircraft. Long takeoff runs, then they accelerate in ground effect before climbing. When they land, they fly a base leg to scrub off speed with the wing tips arcing down to act like flaps and using their big feet as speed brakes before they flare and land. Majestic. I sometimes wonder if they weren't an inspiration for the Klingon Bird of Prey with their long necks.
I do like the swans. I don’t see them nearby my home, but there are lots around Courtenay and Duncan. We used to have them land on our farm when I was a kid. That was always a highlight.
I think the inspiration for the ‘Bird of Prey’ was a condor though... at least that’s how I’ve imagined it.... a swan just doesn’t have a Klingon-esq presence!
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It's the wings being so far behind the head when they are in flight that reminds me of the Klingon ship.
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I've often had seabirds pace me at 25 - 30 knots most notably cormorants and usually single birds but sometimes a handful in loose formation. It's really something to see them like that. It can even be blowing 25 - 30 knots and they're as stable as when its calm. It's strange they'd name a helicopter after them when they seem more like a fighter jet. Murres are even faster - more like Starfighters from Star Wars.
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I've often had seabirds pace me at 25 - 30 knots most notably cormorants and usually single birds but sometimes a handful in loose formation. It's really something to see them like that. It can even be blowing 25 - 30 knots and they're as stable as when its calm. It's strange they'd name a helicopter after them when they seem more like a fighter jet. Murres are even faster - more like Starfighters from Star Wars.
I'm not aware they named any helicopter after a swan. I do know there is a company called Black Swan that flies helicopters though.
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I'm not aware they named any helicopter after a swan. I do know there is a company called Black Swan that flies helicopters though.
I think he means the Cormorant.
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I think he means the Cormorant.
Yep.
I wonder what a military craft named after a squid would look like? Something Romulan comes to mind.
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I dunno. Maybe the Cormorant because it can land on water? The Brits call the EH101 the Merlin. Doesn't seem like a small falcon either.
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I dunno. Maybe the Cormorant because it can land on water?
Good point.
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I dunno. Maybe the Cormorant because it can land on water? The Brits call the EH101 the Merlin. Doesn't seem like a small falcon either.
Cormorant???. Oh you mean the Phalacrocoracidae Sounds a tad scary to me when you fully pronounce that name eh.
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Cormorant???. Oh you mean the Phalacrocoracidae Sounds a tad scary to me when you fully pronounce that name eh.
Sounds like it should have big teeth.
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Sounds like it should have big teeth.
Yeah, that image came to my mind when I hit the "croc" part of that long name.
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Yep.
I wonder what a military craft named after a squid would look like? Something Romulan comes to mind.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2773/1296/files/20-of-the-weirdest-planes-ever-to-take-flight-hz-1.jpg?v=1583385393)
How about this death trap?
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Its a flying Segway.
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How about this death trap?
I hope at least they drilled holes to put dual ignition into what looks like a Briggs-Stratton rotor tiller motor.
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1954: de Lackner HZ-1 Aerocycle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQEjfvWoKjw --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBHM1vZLzc
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Slip off that little platform and you become ground round. You wouldn't get me on one of those things.
I did like the folding helicopter. That was really cool.
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It’s raining in biblical proportions. Gale warnings.
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Perfect day for kiteboarding at Gordon’s Beach!
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Looks like a better day for feeding a woodstove if you ask me. Looks like more **** on toast coming our way too.
(https://i.imgur.com/bNdETpN.jpg)
Ordinarily, notwithstanding COVID, I'd be running boats in and out of Hot Springs Cove right now taking an inside route, except for the white-knuckle portion getting around Sharp Pt, especially in 3 - 4 m seas on a strong ebb tide. But not in this weather. The amount of rain we're getting right now is enough to make the hot spring turn into a warm spring - the logs and boulders ocean swells can dump into the pools kinda take some of the charm away too.
Better to just eat a can of beans jump into the hot-tub instead and it's almost like being there. Especially with driving wind, rain and trees bent over sideways all around.
Windy is calling for up to 13 m swells in the North Pacific with 8 - 10 m waves reaching our coast later this week.
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Looks like a better day for feeding a woodstove if you ask me. Looks like more **** on toast coming our way too.
(https://i.imgur.com/bNdETpNh.jpg)
Ordinarily, notwithstanding COVID, I'd be running boats in and out of Hot Springs Cove right now taking an inside route, except for the white-knuckle portion getting around Sharp Pt, especially in 3 - 4 m seas on a strong ebb tide. But not in this weather. The amount of rain we're getting right now is enough to make the hot spring turn into a warm spring - the logs and boulders ocean swells can dump into the pools kinda take some of the charm away too.
Better to just eat a can a beans jump into the hot-tub instead and it's almost like being there. Especially with driving wind, rain and trees bent over sideways all around.
Windy is calling for up to 13 m swells in the North Pacific with 8 - 10 m waves reaching our coast later this week.
At least here on the left coast it seems we are getting a steady stream of airflow from Hawaii. A little damp but fairly warm for January. Happy New Year.
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I was able to ride my bike all through December in Winnipeg and I just got back from an extended New Year's Day ride, and I'm not even a winter cyclist.
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Just wet in the valley, almost no wind.
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Extremely windy here today. Flags standing straight out. We were walking downtown, and the wind blowing through the upper floors of an under construction apartment tower was making this otherworldly wail. It was the most eery sound.
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Extreme heat wave in BC this week. It’s going to be an ugly weekend.
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It's been really cool in Toronto... I had to wear a sweater the other morning... not sure what's happening there...
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It's been really cool in Toronto... I had to wear a sweater the other morning... not sure what's happening there...
It's almost as if sometimes it gets really hot and then other times its not as hot.
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It's almost as if sometimes it gets really hot and then other times its not as hot.
Except when it is really cold and then other times its not as cold.
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I'm told that any time anything in nature changes it's due to climate change.
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I'm told that any time anything in nature changes it's due to climate change.
Told by whom?
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Told by whom?
People.
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People.
Apparently your people don't understand why the leaves fall from the trees in the fall every year.
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But sometimes it hot.
And differenttimes it cold.
I'm Ontarion.
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Heat wave in Siberia as well. Russia is warming 2.5 times faster than the rest of the world.
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It's too hot to drink beer. They get warm so fast. :(
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It's too hot to drink beer. They get warm so fast. :(
You clearly drink too slow…. But I advise a switch to blended margaritas.
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Fantastic idea!
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Calling 32C by noon a break from the heat seems a bit silly…. But holy ****…. 32C is definitely a break compared to what it has been the last few days….
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Never thought I'd be so stoked to see 30 degrees at 9am, but I agree, what a relief. That was surreal.
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More snow in the forecast for tonight for the west coast. Temperatures will be hovering around zero, so it’ll be wet and sloppy.
How’s the weather where you are?
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Sloppy and wet.
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Sloppy and wet.
Hovering around zero, snow/rain in forecast overnight. Working from home tomorrow, so will miss the excitement of the morning commute. Saw one accident today, but a toss-up between road conditions or just regular stupidity.
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Toronto is perma-grey in the sky during the day. People are still clinging on to the holidays.... I went for a walk by myself and Christmas lights everywhere... maybe they are just lazy.
From my house to EZ's school it smelled like weed everywhere and then on the alternate way home... fabric softener.
Quiet as the city can be too.
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If the big empty hole in my woodshed is any kind of indicator....I've burned thru about 3 cords and only have about a cord left. Thankfully, I know a guy.
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Expected low of -37 tonight with a -48 windchill. Cozy.
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Expected low of -37 tonight with a -48 windchill. Cozy.
Cozy? Must be a dry cold.
A buddy and I drove from Toronto to the west coast one January and it was cold like that all the way. We were in an old British Wolseley which was not very well equipped for the cold with one little heater. We could see our breath the entire way. The car finally gave up in Golden and we had to wait for parts to carry on so I got a job working for the shop/auto-wrecker that fixed the car and my buddy delivered pizzas.
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It's only cozy because my house has a brilliant baseboard radiator system that allows me to control heating zones and have toasty rooms for living and cooler rooms for sleeping. I just have to use a spin bike and watch cycling GoPro videos instead of a real bike ride.
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1. We were in an old British Wolseley which was not very well equipped for the cold with one little heater. We could see our breath the entire way.
2. The car finally gave up in Golden and we had to wait for parts to carry on so I got a job working for the shop/auto-wrecker that fixed the car and my buddy delivered pizzas.
1. That sounds like hell.
2. That sounds like hell.
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We got 30+ cm of snow overnight. Crazy.
Main highway near Campbell River:
(https://images.drivebc.ca/bchighwaycam/pub/cameras/542.jpg)
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They wait until the storm's over before the ploughs come out? Weird.
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They wait until the storm's over before the ploughs come out? Weird.
They wait until the storm is over and it has rained and is mostly gone before the plows come out.
They also don’t bother picking up garbage or recycling if the road is the least bit snowy or icy. No garbage pickup here for 3 weeks or so now. They canceled it again today.
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It’s notoriously bad in my municipality. I live in a cul de sac too which never gets ploughed and is on top of a slippery hill so I’m often homebound until snow melts.
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Tsunami warning.
https://www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca/tsunami-advisory-bc-jan15/
Eyeball is in the warning zone.
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https://youtu.be/SBj-U5c-DAY
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Tsunami warning.
https://www.emergencyinfobc.gov.bc.ca/tsunami-advisory-bc-jan15/
Eyeball is in the warning zone.
Never felt a thing.
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Never felt a thing.
Apparently, there’s a risk of strange and dangerous currents, not so much a tsunami. Surfers should stay out of the water.
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Apparently, there’s a risk of strange and dangerous currents, not so much a tsunami. Surfers should stay out of the water.
I maintain a pretty healthy sense of risk on the ocean even at the best of times and more so as the years go by and my experience grows. I can definitely see where you'd want to be extra cautious around somewhere like the outside of the Broken Group for the next few days.
Ever picked goose-barnacles or seen where commercial pickers go? I worked as a coordinator for an experimental fishery for goose-barnacles and often had to land a boat or someone onto the exposed bare rocks they're harvested from. If the La Perouse weather buoy said 2m seas that was our no-go limit but of course the buoy is 15 miles offshore so...no need to take a grain of salt with you.
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I maintain a pretty healthy sense of risk on the ocean even at the best of times and more so as the years go by and my experience grows. I can definitely see where you'd want to be extra cautious around somewhere like the outside of the Broken Group for the next few days.
Ever picked goose-barnacles or seen where commercial pickers go? I worked as a coordinator for an experimental fishery for goose-barnacles and often had to land a boat or someone onto the exposed bare rocks they're harvested from. If the La Perouse weather buoy said 2m seas that was our no-go limit but of course the buoy is 15 miles offshore so...no need to take a grain of salt with you.
There’s a few islands that are big enough to land on the lee-side and hike over top to get a feed of barnacles from the surf side. We did that in the Deer Group a few times.
But jumping onto surf-swept rocks …. Doesn’t seem safe.
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There’s a few islands that are big enough to land on the lee-side and hike over top to get a feed of barnacles from the surf side. We did that in the Deer Group a few times.
But jumping onto surf-swept rocks …. Doesn’t seem safe.
Yeah but some of those guys could make $500 in a couple hours on a good rock. I got paid considerably less to follow them around myself.
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Most extreme rogue wave ever was recorded off B.C. coast
https://globalnews.ca/news/8607359/biggest-rogue-wave-vancouver-island-coast/
Never felt a thing...
I've been offshore in 6 - 7 m seas outside Ucluelet after big typhoons off Japan. When the wave period's are 15 seconds or more and there's no wind on top of it the surface is otherwise quite calm and you can blast along at full speed. It's a different story nearshore and around shallow spots of course. The power of these waves are really apparent when you see how high up an exposed island they push.
I remember standing at Amphitrite Pt during 100 kt winds and 14 - 15 m seas. I doubt if the period was more than 8 seconds - extremely rough conditions. It was on par with being at Niagara Falls for noise and fury. Winds knocked our power out here for a week and went on to blow down some 20% of the forest in Stanley Park.
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South Nomad Weather Buoy
Time Wind(knots) Wave height(m) Wave period(sec)
9:00 W 37 gust 50 11.9 15.1
8:00 W 36 gust 46 12.4 16.0
7:00 W 37 gust 49 11.5 13.5
6:00 W 42 gust 52 12.1 12.8
5:00 W 41 gust 55 9.5 13.5
4:00 W 39 gust 50 9.4 13.5
https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=16200
Big out there today. South Nomad is about 400 miles west of Straight of Juan de Fuca. We should see the biggest swells hitting the coast later this afternoon right around a high tide of 3.14 m. I'd be a little nervous if I lived on Chesterman's Beach.
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After a long, cold, brutal winter, it looks like we'll top it off with the worst blizzard since 1997. Yay. About 40 cm of snow is expected, but it could be twice that. I have tickets to the Kracken game Wednesday night when it's supposed to be near impossible to get around. Should be fun!
Never mind. Game got postponed till May 1, when it will just be a fight for a worse draft position. Oh well.
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The storm was pretty much as predicted by Environment Canada: 25 cm yesterday and apparently another 10 today, but it's been fascinating watching how it has been politicized. People thinking stores choosing to close early is preparation for "climate lockdowns". People thinking it's all hype and not really happening. Other people thinking it's the end of days and buying 30 jugs of milk and a generator.
And of course all you ever hear are these vocal extremists. The rest of us are just waiting it out and preparing to shovel.
Strange times.
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The storm was pretty much as predicted by Environment Canada: 25 cm yesterday and apparently another 10 today, but it's been fascinating watching how it has been politicized. People thinking stores choosing to close early is preparation for "climate lockdowns". People thinking it's all hype and not really happening. Other people thinking it's the end of days and buying 30 jugs of milk and a generator.
And of course all you ever hear are these vocal extremists. The rest of us are just waiting it out and preparing to shovel.
Strange times.
When the next pandemic hits, millions of people will go to their graves thinking it's not actually happening oh **** sorry, that was the current pandemic.
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After a long, cold, brutal winter, it looks like we'll top it off with the worst blizzard since 1997. Yay. About 40 cm of snow is expected, but it could be twice that. I have tickets to the Kracken game Wednesday night when it's supposed to be near impossible to get around. Should be fun!
Never mind. Game got postponed till May 1, when it will just be a fight for a worse draft position. Oh well.
Don't live in Winnipeg then. It's like living in Miami and complaining about a hot summer.
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Your reading comprehension is getting worse. "Should be fun!" means I enjoy big snowstorms and am looking forward to it.
Have your water checked for lead.
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Two more Colorado lows since the one I posted about and now the Red River is eight miles wide in some spots of North Dakota.
Lots of flood evacuees in the city, which would have had to be evacuated itself if not for the brilliant 1960s government initiative to create a floodwater diversion around the city. Essentially they can open a gate and split the river in two now and send most of it around and away from the city.
It's saved billions of dollars in damage, and libertarians would probably try to deny it exists because it shows how effective government can be.
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it's weird when the continent is freaking out about temperatures and conditions you consider to be kind of a nice day for this time of year.
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Cold cold cold ❄️
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Yes, I see you have a high of -6 today with a bit of a windchill. I feel terrible for you.
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Thanks.
It's good to know that the ROC is aware of the troubles Toronto is going through.
The sidewalk plow came through last night.
We had about 3 cm, so that helped.
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Yes, I see you have a high of -6 today with a bit of a windchill. I feel terrible for you.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Much of Ontario is seeing temperatures of -20ish with 70-80km wind gusts and 20+ cm of snow. That’s a little more than just a nice day. Today the snow has tapered down, but it’s still pretty cold and especially windy.
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Sounds fine to me. Once you dress for it, it's nothing. You can even learn to drive on ice. Pretend there's a raw egg on your gas pedal that you don't want to break.
I currently have a -41 windchill and am planning a stroll to the mall later. Fleece pants are a game changer.
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Sounds fine to me. Once you dress for it, it's nothing. You can even learn to drive on ice. Pretend there's a raw egg on your gas pedal that you don't want to break.
I currently have a -41 windchill and am planning a stroll to the mall later. Fleece pants are a game changer.
Most people don’t consider 80km winds, nice. It can actually cause a lot of damage.
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Yes, that was my initial point But you buy a warmer coat and get used to it if that's just the way it is.
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It was 12 degrees out at 9pm tonight. My daughter said it doesn't feel like Christmas and she's right, it feels like September. Even Halloween is often colder than it was today.
I don't want to jinx it with major snowfall all of a sudden, but this is the warmest December I recall ever.
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We have to drive to a swimming pool here, and we figured it's just easier to not wear coats after the swim out to the car. We're not even cold.
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Yeah, it's the warmest we've ever been, consistently, at this time of year. (Edmonton area)
No snow at all. That's unheard of for this time of year.
(Two years ago we had some weird spikes in January that took out our garlic crop, but we saw colder temperatures and snow)
Contrary to BC_cheque's sentiment, I would love to jinx it and get ten feet of snow today.
If it's still this way come spring, last year's fires are going to seem trivial in comparison.
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Yeah, it's the warmest we've ever been, consistently, at this time of year. (Edmonton area)
No snow at all. That's unheard of for this time of year.
(Two years ago we had some weird spikes in January that took out our garlic crop, but we saw colder temperatures and snow)
Contrary to BC_cheque's sentiment, I would love to jinx it and get ten feet of snow today.
If it's still this way come spring, last year's fires are going to seem trivial in comparison.
It's going to be minus 20 in Edmonton next week.
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I'm fine with not axing the tax
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It's going to be minus 20 in Edmonton next week.
Yeah.
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Winnipeg forecast says a high of 13 on Monday and a low of -20. High of -16 Tuesday.
Very odd.
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Winnipeg forecast says a high of 13 on Monday and a low of -20. High of -16 Tuesday.
Very odd.
Thunder snow ❄️? ❄️
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I’m loving the El Niño inspired winter!
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I’m loving the El Niño inspired winter!
Yeah droughts are great.
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Yeah droughts are great.
Is that because of El Nino? Regardless, luckily we live in a country with access to the most fresh water in the entire world.
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Is that because of El Nino? Regardless, luckily we live in a country with access to the most fresh water in the entire world.
Water has to rain on our farmland for food to grow. I think the weird weather in the past year is mostly el Nino with some climate change.
Would like to know for el Nino affected the Canadian first fires.
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Water has to rain on our farmland for food to grow. I think the weird weather in the past year is mostly el Nino with some climate change.
Would like to know for el Nino affected the Canadian first fires.
Definitely. I only referenced El Nino because back in October, the weather network referenced El Nino has having a big impact on our winter this year.
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Is that because of El Nino?
Gee I dunno do you think a climate phenomenon that causes less snow and rain along with higher temperatures might play a role there?
Regardless, luckily we live in a country with access to the most fresh water in the entire world.
Wait do you not understand what the term drought means?
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Gee I dunno do you think a climate phenomenon that causes less snow and rain along with higher temperatures might play a role there?
Wait do you not understand what the term drought means?
I can't imagine how we will ever manage, even with access to the most fresh water in the world. It's pretty bleak.
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Wow. You're really stupid.
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I can't imagine how we will ever manage, even with access to the most fresh water in the world. It's pretty bleak.
The fact we have water in the Great Lakes or Northern Manitoba doesn't really help growers in B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan now does it.
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The fact we have water in the Great Lakes or Northern Manitoba doesn't really help growers in B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan now does it.
And what would you like done? All I said is that I’m enjoying the milder winter. You people are insufferable. 😛
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And what would you like done? All I said is that I’m enjoying the milder winter. You people are insufferable. 😛
I would like to see you stuffed in a burlap sack and tossed into one of our many freshwater bodies.
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I would like to see you stuffed in a burlap sack and tossed into one of our many freshwater bodies.
Go tell us what the bottom of one of those lakes smells like.
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Go tell us what the bottom of one of those lakes smells like.
try to come up with something new/original.
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And what would you like done? All I said is that I’m enjoying the milder winter. You people are insufferable. 😛
Enjoy the higher food prices and forest fires this summer
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Enjoy the higher food prices and forest fires this summer
Forest fires have more to do with forest management. Arson also played a major role, especially with the fires out east.
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Forest fires have more to do with forest management.
oh my! Forrest Trump was skewered for his claims about Finland supposedly 'raking its forests'... but you go Shady!
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Forest fires have more to do with forest management. Arson also played a major role, especially with the fires out east.
Do you think hot and drier conditions might make forest fires worse?
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I can't imagine how we will ever manage, even with access to the most fresh water in the world. It's pretty bleak.
Yeah cuz it's really easy to transport water from lakes and water every crop and dry forest in the country.
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Yeah cuz it's really easy to transport water from lakes and water every crop and dry forest in the country.
I didn’t say it was as easy. But lakes are connected to rivers and streams. You can even drill wells to water! Regardless, you guys perfectly exemplify how soft everyone has become. Too many years with no real adversity.
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Do you think hot and drier conditions might make forest fires worse?
Absolutely, especially when coupled with poor forest management. It also doesn’t help when 14 fires in Quebec were set by arsonists last summer.
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It doesn't really matter how they started. Lightning starts lots of forest fires too. It's the dry conditions that are the problem. I don't think raking the vast North will work.
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I didn’t say it was as easy. But lakes are connected to rivers and streams. You can even drill wells to water! Regardless, you guys perfectly exemplify how soft everyone has become. Too many years with no real adversity.
You need precipitation to water crops and trees for food to grow and trees not to get dry and burn. I don't think it's a matter of getting soft. But I also am not convinced how much of all of this weird weather and forest fires in Canada are caused by El Nino vs climate change. Probably a combo.
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Absolutely, especially when coupled with poor forest management. It also doesn’t help when 14 fires in Quebec were set by arsonists last summer.
By one of your guys (https://nypost.com/2024/01/19/news/quebec-conspiracy-theorist-pleads-guilty-to-setting-14-fires/) lol
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You need precipitation to water crops and trees for food to grow and trees not to get dry and burn. I don't think it's a matter of getting soft. But I also am not convinced how much of all of this weird weather and forest fires in Canada are caused by El Nino vs climate change. Probably a combo.
That’s part of the problem, it’s impossible to tell. Regardless I haven’t seen any forecasts indicating dry conditions for an extended period of time. Everyone’s acting like it’s been decades of drought. People lose their sh*t now over a mild winter. We’ve had mild winters before, and we’ll have them again.
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The forest fires were last year, after a la Nina winter. Some of them haven't even been extinguished yet because this winter was so dry. Summer should be fun.
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That’s part of the problem, it’s impossible to tell. Regardless I haven’t seen any forecasts indicating dry conditions for an extended period of time. Everyone’s acting like it’s been decades of drought. People lose their sh*t now over a mild winter. We’ve had mild winters before, and we’ll have them again.
Alberta declares an early start to wildfire season (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-declares-early-start-to-wildfire-season)
Drought-plagued Alberta braces for even worse conditions (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/drought-alberta-rebecca-schulz-pincher-creek-1.7101179)
‘I am really worried’: B.C. premier braces for another potential dangerous summer drought (https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/02/08/bc-drought-worries-2024/)
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Alberta declares an early start to wildfire season (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-declares-early-start-to-wildfire-season)
Drought-plagued Alberta braces for even worse conditions (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/drought-alberta-rebecca-schulz-pincher-creek-1.7101179)
‘I am really worried’: B.C. premier braces for another potential dangerous summer drought (https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/02/08/bc-drought-worries-2024/)
And have any of these provinces adapted their forest management for this problem? Probably not. Regardless, what's your point? All of this because I said that I'm enjoying the mid winter! You people aren't just insufferable, you're lunatics!
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Summer should be fun.
I think it will be. I'll be at the beach a lot, and at patios for beers. Maybe catch a Blue Jays game once in a while.
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And have any of these provinces adapted their forest management for this problem?
What do you propose?
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What do you propose?
I propose better forest management, as it's proven to help reduce forest fires.
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But we're talking thousands and thousands of hectares of remote, inaccessible land. What's your specific plan other than "they should manage it while I have fun in the sun."
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But we're talking thousands and thousands of hectares of remote, inaccessible land. What's your specific plan other than "they should manage it while I have fun in the sun."
Better forest management. As well as developing an early tracking system of potential fires. That's about all that can be done.
Decades of mismanagement led to choked forests — now it's time to clear them out, fire experts say
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/decades-mismanagement-led-choked-forests-now-it-s-time-clear-n1243599
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Yeah, I figured your knowledge of the issue was no deeper than the words "forest management" with no concept whatsoever of the scope of the problem.
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Yeah, I figured your knowledge of the issue was no deeper than the words "forest management" with no concept whatsoever of the scope of the problem.
And what’s your plan? Other than pretending the world is ending.
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Your hero Elon says the only thing that makes any sense is a carbon tax. Perhaps if it were revenue neutral and not a cash grab, it would be the perfect solution.
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Your hero Elon says the only thing that makes any sense is a carbon tax. Perhaps if it were revenue neutral and not a cash grab, it would be the perfect solution.
I think we have that, but it doesn’t seem to be working. When’s the carbon tax going to start fixing the problem? The government can’t even tell you how much of any carbon reduction is related to the carbon tax. Unfortunately the parliamentary budget office’s analysis showed 60% of Canadians pay more than they get back.
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Then they have good reason to think of ways to reduce their carbon footprint.
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Unfortunately the parliamentary budget office’s analysis showed 60% of Canadians pay more than they get back.
citation request - sure you can!
I won't cite from any of the multitude of climate change related references... cause you'll just shyte all over them! So ya, let the waldo once again quote from that staunch Conservative, the G&M's Andrew Coyne, as to what the related PBO report actually states:
Far from refuting the government’s claim, in fact it confirms it. In six of the seven provinces where the federal carbon tax applies, the PBO estimates that, even at the $170 per tonne the tax will have reached by then (it was recently increased to $65 a tonne), 80 per cent of households will get back more in rebates than they pay in the tax.
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Forest fires have more to do with forest management.
It also doesn’t help when 14 fires in Quebec were set by arsonists last summer.
one guy/arsonist... setting 14 separate fires; of ~700 fires in total!
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