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Beyond Politics => General Discussion => Topic started by: MH on September 12, 2018, 06:03:06 am

Title: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on September 12, 2018, 06:03:06 am
Well, another storm is coming - Florence is her name. 

Have you been through extreme weather ?  I haven't, really.  There was the big storm in Toronto in 1998 (I think it was) but there wasn't even any power loss for us.

You ?
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 12, 2018, 11:32:33 am
Well, another storm is coming - Florence is her name. 

Have you been through extreme weather ?  I haven't, really.  There was the big storm in Toronto in 1998 (I think it was) but there wasn't even any power loss for us.

You ?

My first overseas trip was to the Philippines and I was based the first month there on a ship in the South China Sea. I got there just in time for typhoon Ruby to bare her teeth. We did a lot of rockin' and rollin' for about 3 days. Winds on the bridge hit up to 112kts. Thankfully I'm not prone to motion sickness but there were a number of crew members who didn't stray far from the heads.   
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on September 12, 2018, 11:34:46 am
3 days!  How did you eat, sleep, poop ?
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on September 12, 2018, 11:53:38 am
Many big storms.  Had many power outages, sometimes for days.  That’s life on the island if you live in a rural area.  Worked through a bunch of storms on boats in the Straits... 

But 2 recent times come to mind:

Was caught out fishing in the “Unsinkable Laegend” when the weather came in.  We saw water spouts forming on our way back in...   cool sight, but not when you’re out in a 4 foot chop, gusting 40 knots.  In hindsight, I should’ve stopped to take photos...  but they probably would’ve been blurry anyway.  Couldn’t make it back to our original launch, so we had to bum a ride back to our boat and trailer from a more sheltered launch.  Was quite an adventure. 

Drove through blizzard conditions from Hope to Jasper...   north of Jasper it was blowing snow making for horrendous visibility....   around Peace River, it was freezing rain!  Not a pleasant drive to Yellowknife that winter...

ETA:  Never been at sea in the weather Omni is talking about...  yikes...
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 12, 2018, 12:07:33 pm
3 days!  How did you eat, sleep, poop ?

Ah pooping was no problem, the heads continued to work fine. You just had to hunt around to find one someone wasn't kneeling in front of, and "praying" into.  For around 2 of the days the galley was shut down. I guess they figured the fried eggs could end up flipping themselves. There was a stash of energy bars and such on board for just such an event. They get a little boring after awhile but at least something to munch on. Sleeping was the most difficult at least for me. Not sure how familiar you are with "sea terms" but you have what are called lee cloths which is like kind of window blind made of canvas that unrolls from below the berth and then hooks in up above. This is to keep you from being thrown out of your berth as she rolls, but constantly being thrown from side to side, even if you don't fall out, does not make for a good nights sleep. I was sitting chatting with the captain of the vessel during some of the worst of the storm and during one of those rolls I said to him " I think sometimes this things is going to just keep right on rolling" even though it always did stop and then start it's roll the other way. He replied that the way we were loaded it would always right itself from rolls. Just about then a wave hit us on the stern, which which was flat shaped, and that felt like I imagine it would feel to be rear ended in your car, and the ship gave about 3 shudders as that impact made its way along the length of the ship. The captain said "now that's what worries me because that shudder is what can break these ships up, and since we are in the stern which is the heaviest part, it would break off first". OK now I felt much better knowing we wouldn't likele roll over, but we might just snap off and head for Davey Jones but at least we'd be right side up.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 12, 2018, 12:56:22 pm
Another scrape I had with some significant weather was not wind but rainfall. This was on an island off the west coast of Africa that was known for its annual rainy season, but this year even the locals were saying it was heavier than usual. The island is volcanic and it's highest elevation is just under 10,000 feet. The roadways were down closer to sea level. I drove to the airport early one morning with the rain pounding down like it had been for days and as I approached a bridge that crossed a river that drained the flow down the mountain, here comes a large tree, roots first that had obviously been flooded out somewhere up the mountainside and it hit the bridge knocking it off its center stanchion and on down toward the sea. Thankfully that tree had to good graces to crash the bridge while we were on the same side of the river as was our residences, and even more so not while we were on it. We turned around and headed back to see about a plan B as we thought this was the only road to the airport. Turned out there was another one but it required a slow, lengthy, very bumpy trip with a 4x4 through the jungle.     
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 12, 2018, 04:03:03 pm
And as global warming continues there will be more and more Florences to deal with. I'll bet there will be some really good deals on waterfron property in the Carolina s soon if anyone wants to take a chance.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 12, 2018, 05:06:37 pm
I just heard on a news channel that NASA has recorded waves as high as 83 feet in this storm. Now I'm no expert but that seems like a big wave. Yikes!
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on September 12, 2018, 05:35:02 pm
And as global warming continues there will be more and more Florences to deal with.

I think it's fewer storms but bigger.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: ?Impact on September 12, 2018, 05:52:06 pm
83 feet? That is not just above the deck, it is above the masthead.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 13, 2018, 09:43:05 pm
Apparently a large swath of the US east coast is about to get "fucked"

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/massive-hurricane-baring-down-on-america-takes-cheeky-and-distinct-shape/news-story/c82cd5d5beb9bed57b53486052c93eae
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on September 14, 2018, 06:09:03 am
You don't have to put the f-word in quotes you know.  We understand you're not using it literally. :D
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on September 14, 2018, 10:36:16 am
You don't have to put the f-word in quotes you know.  We understand you're not using it literally. :D

I might be if I was living in Wilmington.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on September 14, 2018, 12:14:18 pm
Degregdation of 'literally' 😂
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: wilber on September 14, 2018, 12:33:47 pm
Degregdation of 'literally' 😂

Literally.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: MH on February 13, 2019, 07:58:40 pm
When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 13, 2019, 08:46:53 pm
When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?

It's that damned jetstream which has moved way south and is sucking cold air from the arctic. I felt the effects of it once upon a time when I was in the Florida Keys. I was pissed off.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 13, 2019, 10:42:24 pm
It has been very cold here in Southern Alberta for the last 10 days or so.  Finally, the worst is over, and we can look forward to single negative digits by Monday.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 13, 2019, 11:34:53 pm
The jetstream comes in handy when it's giving you a 100 knot tailwind heading east over Greenland to Heathrow etc. Other than thatit's a "cold" pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on February 14, 2019, 12:20:37 am
It's been very warm here where I live, as I cuddle up inside Donald Trump's puckering asshole.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 14, 2019, 12:26:18 am
It's been very warm here where I live, as I cuddle up inside Donald Trump's puckering asshole.

Too bad mlw is offline just now. Many of the members there do that as well.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on February 14, 2019, 11:06:01 am
When have Toronto and Vancouver ever simultaneously had snowstorms ?!?

There was no snowstorm here (west coast) yesterday.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Goddess on February 14, 2019, 05:35:16 pm
This polar vortex can fuck off any time now before I stab myself in the throat.  Gah!
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on February 14, 2019, 11:45:49 pm
Snow again!   

Bring it on!  I love snow.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 14, 2019, 11:49:29 pm
Snow again!   

Bring it on!  I love snow.

Hey, you're welcome to come love some of mine out the friggin' driveway.
Actually it's warming up a bit with rain in the forecast overnight so it may just move itself.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on February 15, 2019, 11:43:34 am
The snow is finally dwindling faster than my pile of firewood and the sun is back in the forecast - I think I can afford to hunker down another day.

Still 4 meter seas out there too so...who needs that?
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 12:31:26 pm
Speaking of weather, I just listened to a discussion with Bill Gates who suggests in order to stabilize the climate, we not only need to stop burning fossil fuels, we also have to stop cows from farting, and burping. Having grown up on a farm I suggest the latter will be much harder than the former.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: ?Impact on February 17, 2019, 02:37:43 pm
Speaking of weather, I just listened to a discussion with Bill Gates who suggests in order to stabilize the climate, we not only need to stop burning fossil fuels, we also have to stop cows from farting, and burping. Having grown up on a farm I suggest the latter will be much harder than the former.

I saw that as well, although he did an extremely poor job explaining the methane cycle. It is important to note that methane lingers in the atmosphere for about a decade, while C02 lingers well over a century. Methane however causes far more warming per ton than C02, almost 30 times as much. Fortunately there is far less methane in the atmosphere than C02, by several hundred times (if you look at how they are measured, C02 is generally in ppm while methane is in ppb - million vs. billion).

Cows, and other ruminants, are a significant part of methane production but still only about 15% overall. The largest source of methane is rice farming. Note that both of these are directly related to human activities, and are issues we can address through alternatives in our diet.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 02:55:49 pm
I saw that as well, although he did an extremely poor job explaining the methane cycle. It is important to note that methane lingers in the atmosphere for about a decade, while C02 lingers well over a century. Methane however causes far more warming per ton than C02, almost 30 times as much. Fortunately there is far less methane in the atmosphere than C02, by several hundred times (if you look at how they are measured, C02 is generally in ppm while methane is in ppb - million vs. billion).

Cows, and other ruminants, are a significant part of methane production but still only about 15% overall. The largest source of methane is rice farming. Note that both of these are directly related to human activities, and are issues we can address through alternatives in our diet.

We are also seeing increases in methane as it is released from thawing arctic tundra.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: ?Impact on February 17, 2019, 03:12:06 pm
We are also seeing increases in methane as it is released from thawing arctic tundra.

Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 03:54:14 pm
Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.

I have driven the ice road between Inuvik and Tuk and was surprised the many years later at all the problems they had putting in the year round version because of the depths to which the tundra thaws these days.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 17, 2019, 05:43:43 pm
Yes, the fear is it could become a significant factor over time. Today it is around 1% of the global emissions of methane, but that will increase as global temperatures increase. Eventually we reach a tipping point where the warming feeds back into a viscous cycle where we have more methane produced from bacterial decomposition of the tundra producing more warming.
Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2019, 07:56:52 pm
Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.

waldo hypothesizes: you're incorrect - per Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres: (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0095-z)

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Methane (CH4) is a potent greenhouse gas that is roughly 30 times more harmful to the climate than carbon dioxide (CO2). Both gases are produced in thawing permafrost as dead animal and plant remains are decomposed. However, methane is only formed if no oxygen is available. Until now, it was assumed that larger amounts of greenhouse gases are formed when the ground was dry and well aerated—when oxygen was available. Christian Knoblauch and his colleagues have now demonstrated that water-saturated permafrost soils without oxygen can be twice as harmful to the climate as dry soils—which means the role of methane has been greatly underestimated.

Knoblauch has, for the first time, measured and quantified in the laboratory the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost. The team had to wait for three years before the approximately 40,000 year-old samples from the Siberian Arctic finally produced methane. The team observed the permafrost for a total of seven years, an unprecedented long-term study.

They found that without oxygen, equal amounts of methane and CO2 are produced. But since methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas, it is more significant. Because methane production couldn't be measured, it was assumed that in the absence of oxygen only very small amounts of it can be formed. "It takes an extremely long time until stable methane-producing microorganisms develop in thawing permafrost," explains Knoblauch. "That's why it was so difficult to demonstrate methane production until now."

"By combining process-based and molecular-microbiological methods, our study shows for the first time that the methane-forming microorganisms in the thawing permafrost have significant influence on the greenhouse gas budget," adds co-author Susanne Liebner from the Helmholtz Center Potsdam—GFZ German Research Center for Geosciences.


Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 08:45:20 pm
Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.

Maybe just take a trip up north in the summer and you will see it's not an "experiment" it's reality.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 17, 2019, 09:29:40 pm
waldo hypothesizes: you're incorrect - per Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres: (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0095-z)
I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 09:44:13 pm
I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.

1.4 million sq. km's of arctic ice melt is not a hypothesis.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2019, 10:34:12 am
I was not talking about the basic GHG effect. The claim that the earth is an unstable system subject to 'tipping points' due to GHGs is nothing but a hypothesis.

in regards the discussion of 'thawing permafrost' (relative to that fifth of the Northern Hemisphere landmass that is permafrost), my emphasis was on your oft repeated references to, "an inability to repeat experimentally". The study I linked to is, I interpret, the first to laboratory control measure/quantify the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost... particularly the emphasis on methane production in water-saturated (absent oxygen) permafrost versus dry-soil permafrost... an addition to and reinforcement of the warming feedback due to melting ice uncovering and destabilizing tundra permafrost.

this measurable data will enable more accurate projections about the impacts of thawing permafrost... perhaps leading towards an eventual inclusion of feedbacks from thawing permafrost in IPCC projections; now absent from current models/modeling.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: ?Impact on February 18, 2019, 01:48:29 pm
Except none of this is actually known. It a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.

Just like playing Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in a revolver is simply a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 18, 2019, 02:05:52 pm
in regards the discussion of 'thawing permafrost' (relative to that fifth of the Northern Hemisphere landmass that is permafrost), my emphasis was on your oft repeated references to, "an inability to repeat experimentally". The study I linked to is, I interpret, the first to laboratory control measure/quantify the long-term production of methane in thawing permafrost... particularly the emphasis on methane production in water-saturated (absent oxygen) permafrost versus dry-soil permafrost... an addition to and reinforcement of the warming feedback due to melting ice uncovering and destabilizing tundra permafrost.

this measurable data will enable more accurate projections about the impacts of thawing permafrost... perhaps leading towards an eventual inclusion of feedbacks from thawing permafrost in IPCC projections; now absent from current models/modeling.

I have also encountered the argument from certain climate change deniers that increased ice sheet over certain areas of the antarctic ocean is proof global warming can't be happening. Then you show the data that points out that reduced ocean surface salinity due to increased precipitation caused by warmer air/sea temperatures is ironically the cause of that ice. Meanwhile of course the Thwaites Glacier continues to slip off the land and into the sea. Psst, don't buy land in Miami.   
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 18, 2019, 02:12:42 pm
Just like playing Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in a revolver is simply a hypothesis that has never been demonstrated with repeatable experiments.
Except it has. People have done it and died. Your analogy fails for another reason because you assume there is a trigger that is actually under our control. There is not. Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered. The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process. This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: cybercoma on February 18, 2019, 02:23:27 pm
If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board.  :D
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 18, 2019, 02:25:14 pm
Except it has. People have done it and died. Your analogy fails for another reason because you assume there is a trigger that is actually under our control. There is not. Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered. The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process. This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.

Well let's see, I am sure you have heard by now that cars, for instance, will run on things opther than gas or diesel. Is it not our choice which kind of car we buy next time we need one?
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 18, 2019, 02:35:46 pm
Well let's see, I am sure you have heard by now that cars, for instance, will run on things opther than gas or diesel. Is it not our choice which kind of car we buy next time we need one?
Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas. Then you have the awkward problem is our grid cannot handle a significant number of EVs and no politician wants to talk about who has to pay for those upgrades because they don't lend themselves to cool slogans or photo shoots.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: ?Impact on February 18, 2019, 02:44:44 pm
Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas.

I bet you argue that the problem with wind and solar is that we don't have storage technology, and now you argue that storage technology must rely on fossil fuels. I would say both your glasses are half empty.

Global CO2 emissions are not going to decline not matter how much be we flagellate ourselves because humans need affordable energy to keep people fed and sheltered.

Again, you ignore the many alternatives like reducing our consumption of meat. Lower GHG emissions, lower land usage, significantly lower water usage, etc.  Same applies to shelter. We don't need to live in climate controlled monster mansions and offices with zero insulation.

The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process.

Again, for the 103954731935717834th time, the economy is an artificial construct and it is what we make it to be. The environment is real, the economy is not.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 18, 2019, 02:45:28 pm
If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board.
There have been doom mongers saying the apocalypse is coming for 1000s of years. None of them were right. Go back to the 70s an read the "predictions" of doom caused by overpopulation. Given the history of failure the safe bet is that the doom mongers will be wrong again.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: TimG on February 18, 2019, 02:57:16 pm
I bet you argue that the problem with wind and solar is that we don't have storage technology, and now you argue that storage technology must rely on fossil fuels. I would say both your glasses are half empty.
Fossil fuels are the storage technology that is available. Without them wind and solar and EVs are useless.

Again, you ignore the many alternatives like reducing our consumption of meat. Lower GHG emissions, lower land usage, significantly lower water usage, etc.  Same applies to shelter. We don't need to live in climate controlled monster mansions and offices with zero insulation.
A laundry list of the mantras from the church of the eco-apocalypse. I am sure you would love it if we reduced our standard of living to the level of Somali or Haiti but most people want the comforts that come from a modern society and cherry picking those comforts that you don't happen to want to use does not make you any different. 

Again, for the 103954731935717834th time, the economy is an artificial construct and it is what we make it to be. The environment is real, the economy is not.
BS. The economy is the blood that keeps society going. Without it flowing no one will care about environmental concerns because the could not afford to do anything about them even if they did care. That is why the economy matters first.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: Omni on February 18, 2019, 03:21:12 pm
Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas. Then you have the awkward problem is our grid cannot handle a significant number of EVs and no politician wants to talk about who has to pay for those upgrades because they don't lend themselves to cool slogans or photo shoots.

You seem to think that in order to have a viable economy we need to keep polluting the air with fossil fuels. If we all keep on that type of  blinders we certainly will have a failing economy. Only so much crap left under the dirt.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on February 18, 2019, 05:37:03 pm
The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process.  This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
Killing the economy will destroy the world - what else do people need to know?

"Economic alarmist" seems like a reasonable label to me.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on February 18, 2019, 05:40:49 pm
If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board.  :D
Easter Island is often given as an example of what we might expect. Not exactly the end of the world or even the economy but definitely not what it used to be.

So long as the supply ships keep coming Easter Islanders will do just fine.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on September 08, 2020, 07:33:19 pm
We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA.  There’s an EC air quality warning out. 

Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....

Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: JuniperRose on September 08, 2020, 08:43:08 pm
We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA.  There’s an EC air quality warning out. 

Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....

The fuel dock looking towards Granville Island doesn’t look hazy right now... (17:30)

I'm in Surrey, and was thinking if spending the afternoon on the patio, but the smoke was too much, made my throat hurt.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on September 11, 2020, 03:21:20 pm
Smoky from the American wildfires again today. It’s pretty gross.  Acrid smell and a slight burning in the eyes....   
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: kimmy on September 13, 2020, 04:30:37 pm
The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks.   The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.

(https://i.imgur.com/6NfmQ.jpeg)

 -k
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: the_squid on September 13, 2020, 05:08:16 pm
The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks.   The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.

Not to worry....   if you look past your own backyard, you’ll find that too...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: kimmy on September 14, 2020, 12:43:47 pm
I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.

 -k
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on September 14, 2020, 02:04:10 pm
It's a little better out here on the coast today but still not very pleasant.  I talked with a couple of fishermen who were miles and miles out at sea who say it was no better and even worse at times.  An approaching low with southeast winds and rain should help but there's a lot of smoke out there.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: wilber on September 16, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Wasn't too bad earlier this morning where we are. The sun wasn't red for a change. Did a 5K walk this morning wearing a mask and that wasn't very pleasant. Been running the furnace fan with a MERV 13 filter and it seems to help the inside air quality.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on September 17, 2020, 07:01:31 pm
I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.

 -k
I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.

Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er.  His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep.  One less thing right?  Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: bcsapper on September 17, 2020, 09:51:26 pm
I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.

Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er.  His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep.  One less thing right?  Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.

Did you ever try these?  My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.

(https://www.londondrugs.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-londondrugs-master/default/dw56ff1feb/products/L7858293/large/L7858293.JPG)
I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose.  The Sleep Rights work well for me.
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: eyeball on September 18, 2020, 08:57:41 pm
Did you ever try these?  My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.

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I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose.  The Sleep Rights work well for me.
I usually flip and flop around so much I'd probably knock them loose but I'll give them a whirl, thanks. I tried wearing earplugs to blank out the noise of waves slapping against the hull and the groaning of wooden timbers and such when sleeping in big seas at night. Firing up the engine to mask the noise actually worked better.  If I could sleep standing up I would because nothing seems to clear up a bent windpipe faster.  Sleeping pills don't seem to do a thing for me.  I suppose I could reinforce that with booze but I'd just have to wake up again and I'd probably be even crankier than usual so...
Title: Re: Weather Thread
Post by: bcsapper on September 19, 2020, 10:06:40 am
I usually flip and flop around so much I'd probably knock them loose but I'll give them a whirl, thanks. I tried wearing earplugs to blank out the noise of waves slapping against the hull and the groaning of wooden timbers and such when sleeping in big seas at night. Firing up the engine to mask the noise actually worked better.  If I could sleep standing up I would because nothing seems to clear up a bent windpipe faster.  Sleeping pills don't seem to do a thing for me.  I suppose I could reinforce that with booze but I'd just have to wake up again and I'd probably be even crankier than usual so...

Yeah, I wear earplugs too.  The train is too close.  I shelled out for the fitted ones at ~$150 and they do a pretty good job.