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Beyond Canada => The World => Topic started by: MH on May 08, 2018, 12:37:34 pm


Title: Nationalism and Online
Post by: MH on May 08, 2018, 12:37:34 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/08/facebook-to-block-foreign-spending-on-irish-abortion-vote-ads-referendum

So facebook is now going to referee people getting involved in politics across borders ?

I guess this means Greenpeace is illegal ?  Nothing is global ?

What ?
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: Peter F on May 08, 2018, 01:05:34 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/08/facebook-to-block-foreign-spending-on-irish-abortion-vote-ads-referendum

So facebook is now going to referee people getting involved in politics across borders ?

I guess this means Greenpeace is illegal ?  Nothing is global ?

What ?
  Facebook policy is not the law. Greenpeace, despite facebook, is still legal in many places. Nothing is global. Should I, for example, have some sort of inherent right to **** around with referendums in Ireland? Are not the Irish perfectly capable of figuring things out for themselves?  Do they need the Namibian Church of Everlasting Miserys' opinion on the matter?
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: MH on May 08, 2018, 01:06:42 pm
Should I, for example, have some sort of inherent right to **** around with referendums in Ireland? 

Maybe not, but lots of Canadians contribute to US political campaigns.  Do we want Facebook to police that ?
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: Peter F on May 08, 2018, 01:34:33 pm
Facebook doesn't police it. Facebook is not the only media enterprise in the world. The deep pockets of the world can even create their own Facebook-type thing and use that.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: MH on May 08, 2018, 02:08:02 pm
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Facebook to block foreign spending on Irish abortion vote ads

I got it wrong, but Facebook IS policing international ads and that's policing something.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: Goddess on May 08, 2018, 02:11:32 pm
  the Namibian Church of Everlasting Miserys

Oh that made me laugh  :D
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: the_squid on May 08, 2018, 03:10:10 pm
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...in an effort to adhere to the “principles” of the country’s election spending laws.

They are attempting to follow the laws of Ireland.  Its nothing less than any corporation should be compelled to do.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: MH on May 08, 2018, 03:26:48 pm
They are attempting to follow the laws of Ireland.  Its nothing less than any corporation should be compelled to do.

Sort of ?  It sounds more like they haven't been regulated yet, so they are aligning with existing laws as if they were a media provider regulated in the country.  I suppose that is an easy line to define in the end.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: Peter F on May 08, 2018, 03:33:07 pm
I suspect you are right. They pondered what was good for FB and not what was good for Ireland.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on May 22, 2018, 07:47:17 am
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/08/facebook-to-block-foreign-spending-on-irish-abortion-vote-ads-referendum

So facebook is now going to referee people getting involved in politics across borders ?

I guess this means Greenpeace is illegal ?  Nothing is global ?

What ?

Why should local elections be global?  Should Russia be able to advertise on FB against Hillary Clinton, or Justin Trudeau.  FB needs some regulation in the political sphere i think.
Title: Re: Nationalism and Online
Post by: MH on May 22, 2018, 09:28:35 am
Why should local elections be global?  Should Russia be able to advertise on FB against Hillary Clinton, or Justin Trudeau.  FB needs some regulation in the political sphere i think.

"Across borders"... I am not saying either way but this is about more than local elections.