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Title: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 18, 2018, 09:41:25 am
HOW ARE YOU ?

Personal stuff from me:

I moved on Sunday.  During the worst ice storm in a couple of years.  It went well. 

We got flooded in the basement on Monday, and Bell f*cked up our move and Mrs. Joan Hardner was in tears.  Living out of boxes still, which is stressful.

I am less stressed as time goes on, though. 

More big changes coming soon: employment for me & Mrs.; other things

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on April 18, 2018, 02:30:14 pm
I had to spend the day without power because of the ice storm. Not pleasant. And the IPhone drains very rapidly without WIFI when you use it. If I'd known how long the power would be out I would have gone to my brothers and not lost a day of work. But hydro always says "soon". On the plus side, I do have an emergency battery charger for the phone, and lots of batteries for lights and the radio. Now I'm looking into getting a generator or at least one of those big backup batteries which could power both my computer and my modem. They're kind of ridiculously costly, though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on April 18, 2018, 02:34:36 pm
I was the successful applicant for a permanent position in the job I have been doing as a temporary assignment since last August.  The position is challenging and very, very busy but I do enjoy it a lot.  Also comes with more money, though being government, not much.  Anyway, I am thrilled to have won this competition.  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 18, 2018, 03:05:07 pm
I was the successful applicant for a permanent position in the job I have been doing as a temporary assignment since last August.  The position is challenging and very, very busy but I do enjoy it a lot.  Also comes with more money, though being government, not much.  Anyway, I am thrilled to have won this competition.  :)

Congratulations!  That's awesome!  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 18, 2018, 03:21:49 pm
Last Saturday, we were invited to go along in a hummer-limo thing with 10 other people, driving 1.5 hours away to have a steak dinner for someone's birthday.  It was totally worth the drive - google Bruce Hotel and check out their steak dinner, mine was the size of a softball.

Anyhoo......it was mostly neighbours of the birthday girl (us) and some of her friends.  One neighbour (I'll call him George) brought his girlfriend of 6 months who also happens to be a neighbour (I'll call her Evelyn).  I've met George on a number of occasions when we've helped neighbours move or put up quansets, etc., never met Evelyn before Saturday.

Evelyn had no interest in getting to know me at all, which was fine.  I kind of hit it off with another lady there.  But Evelyn did seem to have a real interest in my boyfriend.  I didn't think much of it until on the drive home, she was sitting next to him and I was on the other side.  I was facing away from them because I was talking to someone else on the other side of the limo.  When I looked back, she had her leg draped around my boyfriend's leg.

I thought, "Hmmmm......my best girlfriend could do that to my man and it wouldn't bother me, but I don't fucking know YOU."

I don't think I'm a jealous person.  I considered reaching over and flipping her leg off him. 

They will be at another birthday party we're going to this Saturday, so I'm going to chalk this one up to lots of booze and the loss of inhibition that sometimes goes with it.  But I'll be keeping a bit of an eye on her.  HAHA
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 18, 2018, 03:26:51 pm
Wow, Goddess.  Very mature.  Keep watching tough.   ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 18, 2018, 03:30:00 pm
I considered reaching over and flipping her leg off him. 

I finally understand what flipping someone off means, I am slow that way.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 18, 2018, 03:33:00 pm
Wow, Goddess.  Very mature.  Keep watching tough.   ;D

In her defense, I don't blame her.  He's very handsome.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on April 18, 2018, 03:36:30 pm
@Goddess.  As MH, kudos to you for not making a scene, and yeah keep an eye out. 

My approach has been that my partner/spouse will keep unwanted ladies at bay.  If he does not, thats on him, not my job to keep the ladies off, imo.  Can't anyway, if he returns her interest.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on April 18, 2018, 03:37:33 pm
In her defense, I don't blame her.  He's very handsome.

Clear case of media bias right there!  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 18, 2018, 03:38:27 pm
I was the successful applicant for a permanent position in the job I have been doing as a temporary assignment since last August.  The position is challenging and very, very busy but I do enjoy it a lot.  Also comes with more money, though being government, not much.  Anyway, I am thrilled to have won this competition.  :)

I wish you well in your endeavor.
I recently got a nudge from a fellow I used to work with who's current business keeps expanding and he want's me to get my ass off the couch and help him manage and teach at his flight school. I'm thinking seriously about taking him up on it so I'm just now trying to recall just how to engage in the classroom part of that. I'll admit I'm nervous.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 18, 2018, 03:59:08 pm
@Goddess.  As MH, kudos to you for not making a scene, and yeah keep an eye out. 

My approach has been that my partner/spouse will keep unwanted ladies at bay.  If he does not, thats on him, not my job to keep the ladies off, imo.  Can't anyway, if he returns her interest.

I did glance at him -  both hands on his drink, sitting still, not talking. I think he wasn't sure what to do either.

We have an agreement but I realize now it's a bit one-sided - he doesn't step in and make a scene unless I indicate I need help.  My last booyfriend before him, used to cause scenes everywhere we went if anyone so much as looked at me and that was a large part of why we broke up.  We will have to come up with something for when the shoe is on the other foot, LOL
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on April 18, 2018, 04:40:38 pm
I wish you well in your endeavor.
I recently got a nudge from a fellow I used to work with who's current business keeps expanding and he want's me to get my ass off the couch and help him manage and teach at his flight school. I'm thinking seriously about taking him up on it so I'm just now trying to recall just how to engage in the classroom part of that. I'll admit I'm nervous.

If you've done teaching before, I bet it comes back quickly.   Could be fun and I wish you the best.  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 18, 2018, 04:49:39 pm
If you've done teaching before, I bet it comes back quickly.   Could be fun and I wish you the best.  :)

Well if I was still in Nfld. I would head to the front of the class and say "Ok bys, off wit your glits" but I'm on the west coast now so they wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about, so I'll have to think of something else.

Thanks
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 18, 2018, 05:55:25 pm
Evelyn had no interest in getting to know me at all, which was fine.  I kind of hit it off with another lady there.  But Evelyn did seem to have a real interest in my boyfriend.  I didn't think much of it until on the drive home, she was sitting next to him and I was on the other side.  I was facing away from them because I was talking to someone else on the other side of the limo.  When I looked back, she had her leg draped around my boyfriend's leg.

I thought, "Hmmmm......my best girlfriend could do that to my man and it wouldn't bother me, but I don't fucking know YOU."

I don't think I'm a jealous person.  I considered reaching over and flipping her leg off him. 

They will be at another birthday party we're going to this Saturday, so I'm going to chalk this one up to lots of booze and the loss of inhibition that sometimes goes with it.  But I'll be keeping a bit of an eye on her.  HAHA

Evelyn sounds like a real winner.  You could have asked her assertively but calmly to please take her leg off your bf, totally appropriate in that instance, she was clearly flirting, booze or no booze she had interest.  And why did your bf let her do that?  I'd be dead if i did that LOL.  One to keep an eye on for sure, and i hope you had a chat with your bf LOL though i don't know the whole context.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 18, 2018, 11:07:50 pm
HOW ARE YOU ?

NOT GREAT, BOB


Since breaking up with my beautiful girl I have been trying to build new romantic relationships, and they are all blowing up to varying degrees.


And my doctor has found that my blood pressure is so high that I could blow up at any moment and take a city block with me.  I'm supposed to avoid alcohol, which is unfortunate because my craving to self-medicate is as high as I can remember.


I have been giving my rice-bag a real beating lately.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 18, 2018, 11:18:37 pm
NOT GREAT, BOB


Since breaking up with my beautiful girl I have been trying to build new romantic relationships, and they are all blowing up to varying degrees.


And my doctor has found that my blood pressure is so high that I could blow up at any moment and take a city block with me.  I'm supposed to avoid alcohol, which is unfortunate because my craving to self-medicate is as high as I can remember.


I have been giving my rice-bag a real beating lately.

 -k

Here's my advice: yeah maybe cut back on the booze a bit (and boy as I say that I'll admit I'm the pot calling the kettle) and then disregard posts from sir argus. :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 19, 2018, 05:42:34 am

Since breaking up with my beautiful girl I have been trying to build new romantic relationships, and they are all blowing up to varying degrees.

Aw..  Well, you said relationships plural which means you are getting chances.  If you think you are doing something wrong do a big reset and try again ?  Anyway my advice is probably next to useless, good luck.  <3

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my craving to self-medicate is as high as I can remember.
 

I know a few people who have found peace in weed.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on April 19, 2018, 06:21:14 am
I have been giving my rice-bag a real beating lately.

 -k
This is the worst euphemism I’ve ever heard.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 19, 2018, 09:03:13 am
This is the worst euphemism I’ve ever heard.

 ???

It's literally a 25 pound bag of rice, that I hang from my ceiling, and tape up my fists, and literally pummel.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 19, 2018, 09:09:20 am
It's literally a 25 pound bag of rice, that I hang from my ceiling, and tape up my fists, and literally pummel.

That sounds like a big mess awaiting to happen
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 19, 2018, 09:34:28 am
Relationships are hard.  We've been together almost 3 years and I still sometimes fantasize about being single again.
There's advantages to both. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 19, 2018, 09:36:25 am
I'm going to spend the rest of the day worrying about what "beating my rice bag" is supposed to be a euphemism for.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 19, 2018, 07:26:05 pm
Jesus....   get your shit together people....    you’re all relatively healthy, working and living in a western democracy!   Thank your frickin’ lucky stars every day that you’re here to enjoy it! 

I bought another boat.  This one packs away small and can get into nooks and crannies in almost any weather and I don’t have to paddle it.  I still have my canoe, but I scared myself with the conditions I went out in, so now got something powered and safer.  Will take the canoe out on smaller lakes on calmer days. 

This boat will get me to the end of Buttle Lake in a gale. 

I want to get a sailing kayak and get rid of the canoe. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 19, 2018, 07:49:13 pm
???

It's literally a 25 pound bag of rice, that I hang from my ceiling, and tape up my fists, and literally pummel.

 -k

thats an awesome idea!  save some money lol

i think you and i would get along just swell lol
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on April 19, 2018, 07:53:17 pm
I'm going to spend the rest of the day worrying about what "beating my rice bag" is supposed to be a euphemism for.

I thought rice bag was an odd thing to call your lady bits!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 19, 2018, 08:04:55 pm

Yeah most women are complex.  There's a lot of crazy p**sy in this world too.  Just make sure you know the difference and stay the hell away from the 2nd one LOL...sometimes they hide the crazy really well for awhile until they got their claws firmly embedded & then you're screwed, just know it when u see it & GTFO if that happens lol.

Sometimes i wish i could take a beautiful woman and stick a man-brain in her and all will be good LOL ah well there's a reason we need ying and yang.  The good thing is, there's lots of sweet wondeful women out there, i feel bad for them cuz we're aholes and it seems hard to find a good fella.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 19, 2018, 08:07:56 pm
Sometimes i wish i could take a beautiful woman and stick a man-brain in her

You do know how to put your foot in your mouth
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 19, 2018, 09:54:03 pm
Women and men are EXACTLY THE SAME
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 20, 2018, 10:07:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbKYcBdVyk

Not sure how to post youtubes on here......

But here's a little help for you fellas ^^^   ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 20, 2018, 10:08:47 am
Oh, look at that!  It posted!
I thought I had to delete part of the code, and couldn't remember which part to delete.....

Happy 420, everyone  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 20, 2018, 12:33:53 pm
Every board I've ever been on, no matter what the purpose of it was, we've had a "Chit Chat Thread".  It's nice.   :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on April 21, 2018, 03:07:15 pm
In other news, I'm selling my car, a red PT Cruiser.   I loved the look of a PT Cruiser from the first time I saw it and was thrilled to be buying a red one a few years ago.    I'm sad to let it go, but BF has a car that is better for the dogs, is a year newer and has remarkably low kms, is much more fuel efficient with a better safety/repair reputation.   Thought about keeping both cars, but both the environmental and financial cost seemed excessive for the convenience.  Hope the next owner gets as much use and pleasure out of it as I did.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 25, 2018, 11:57:06 pm
In other news, I'm selling my car, a red PT Cruiser.

I remember seeing an "AskReddit" thread on Reddit called "PT Cruiser owners: what sequence of events led to your tragic state of affairs?"

I don't know enough about the PT Cruiser to know whether owning one should be considered tragic, but the title made me laugh, so I read the thread.

My favorite response was from a young man who had always dreamed of owning a Mini Cooper. He had posters of Mini Coopers on his wall. On his 18th birthday, his parents took him out onto the driveway, and there, with a big red bow on top...  was a beautiful, slightly used...  PT Cruiser.

He did what any son would do.  He thanked his parents profusely, hugged them and kissed them and told them how grateful he was.  And then he went to his room and disposed of all his Mini Cooper posters and never spoke of Mini Coopers again, because he didn't want them to realize that the PT Cruiser wasn't the car he'd always dreamed about.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 26, 2018, 12:09:49 am
Hey I have a '63 GMC half ton pickup with a completely rebuilt 283, 3 on the tree. Selling cheap.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 26, 2018, 12:15:04 am
I went to one of my favorite local watering holes, the Kim City Roadkill Bar and Grill, after work tonight to watch the hockey game and attempt to flirt with sexy bartenders.

Some middle aged drunk guy with a horseshoe moustache came over and sat down with me and decided he was my new best friend. It was extremely unpleasant.  He was very loud and very dumb. I didn't want to cause a scene, but was sorely tempted to tell him to fuck off, or to put my right fist under his left ear and give him a nice nap to sleep it off.

After about 15 minutes-- it seemed much longer-- of this Heironymus Bosch style torment, the manager showed up and sat down nearby with a couple of friends.  I told Horseshoe Moustache guy "oh! My friends are here!" and went over and sat with them.  The manager is a 350 pound guy who looks like a Hell's Angel wearing a suit, so he's pretty intimidating.  And I go there often enough that he is at least casually friendly with me and recognized the problem.  And Horseshoe Moustache Guy didn't follow me. So that turned out ok.

There are few things you could do to make yourself look as seedy as a horseshoe moustache makes you look.  What more visible symbol of bad judgment is there?  Possibly a Truck-Nuts trailer-hitch cover on your truck, but that's about all I can think of.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 26, 2018, 06:00:40 am
Douchemen need to be dealt with.

Personal Harner stuff:  I moved 10 days ago.  Starting to look like a settled place now.  We went from a 1 bedroom flat to a 3 bedroom house.  Rent has tripled. AMA.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on April 26, 2018, 06:52:22 am
I went to one of my favorite local watering holes, the Kim City Roadkill Bar and Grill, after work tonight to watch the hockey game and attempt to flirt with sexy bartenders.

Some middle aged drunk guy with a horseshoe moustache came over and sat down with me and decided he was my new best friend. It was extremely unpleasant.  He was very loud and very dumb. I didn't want to cause a scene, but was sorely tempted to tell him to fuck off, or to put my right fist under his left ear and give him a nice nap to sleep it off.

After about 15 minutes-- it seemed much longer-- of this Heironymus Bosch style torment, the manager showed up and sat down nearby with a couple of friends.  I told Horseshoe Moustache guy "oh! My friends are here!" and went over and sat with them.  The manager is a 350 pound guy who looks like a Hell's Angel wearing a suit, so he's pretty intimidating.  And I go there often enough that he is at least casually friendly with me and recognized the problem.  And Horseshoe Moustache Guy didn't follow me. So that turned out ok.

There are few things you could do to make yourself look as seedy as a horseshoe moustache makes you look.  What more visible symbol of bad judgment is there?  Possibly a Truck-Nuts trailer-hitch cover on your truck, but that's about all I can think of.

 -k
A MAGA hat.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 01, 2018, 06:06:31 am
Okaaaay.

So my contract ended yesterday and they bobbled the extension and finally got me a 2-month extension in the afternoon to sign.

They had previously pleaded with me to come on full-time, which changed to a dual offer of full-time or contract "if I prefer", which changed to a 3-month contract offer, which changed to a 2-month contract offer. 

So you can see where this is going, right ?  ( They can't afford me and are trying to figure out what to do. )

.....

So, since the guy who understood the value I bring was let go 2 weeks ago (my old boss who brought me in), I now am in a pickle and so are they.  Good news is, my old friend at the L bank is reaching out again.  And the new contract has a 3-week notice clause if either side wants to terminate.

So this is what I am going to do:

Meet my new boss today and say "This job makes sense to both of us with me as permanent employee. I had discussed the terms with old-boss and I understood that they only needed some time in May to set it up.  I also need to decide in May if I am staying or not, so please let me know asap if you intend to offer full time or if you want to get rid of me after our launch May 7th."

This is necessary also because I want full-time, as my wife and I are expecting now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 01, 2018, 07:45:47 am
Babies are scary. cute but very scary.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 01, 2018, 08:21:58 am
This is necessary also because I want full-time, as my wife and I are expecting now.

OMG OMG congratulations!   ;D

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on May 01, 2018, 08:31:45 am
This is necessary also because I want full-time, as my wife and I are expecting now.

Congratulations, that is awesome.    ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on May 01, 2018, 08:52:04 am
Good luck and congrats on the impending new addition.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 01, 2018, 10:47:09 am
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on May 01, 2018, 11:36:40 am
A new little human!  Congrats  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on May 03, 2018, 02:18:23 pm
Today is the 2 year anniversary of the Fort Mac fires.  I haven't been able to bring myself to go back yet, but I am planning to go back next month when my friend from there has her "Yay! I beat cancer!" party.

Random tears today.   :'(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 05, 2018, 12:58:15 pm
Shit.  I am starting to realize how vulnerable I will be soon, with a little one.

Case in point: our specialist has been trying to get us an OB since March.  This process involves calling a phone # and leaving a message and faxing the hospital in question.  There is no way to follow up on a response. 

So on Thursday evening, Joan woke me up sobbing for not having heard back.  She does this - defers stress until it boils over.  I didn't know what to do so Friday I went to the hospital in person before it opened... and it worked !  A few more calls and emails connected the fax-ers to the fax-ees and we have an appointment.

I am pissed off, though, that such a simple and yet crucial process takes weeks, and requires an in-person visit.  Another thing: FAX ??? How much time is wasted with that.  If you saw the fax we received, it's abhorrent in its indescipherability... :(

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 05, 2018, 01:00:46 pm
FAX?  Did they also have quill pens and briefcases??

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 05, 2018, 08:04:29 pm
FAX?  Did they also have quill pens and briefcases??

 -k

No kidding eh...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on May 05, 2018, 09:30:26 pm
Faxes are legal, emails not because they can be altered.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 06, 2018, 06:26:59 am
Faxes are legal, emails not because they can be altered.

The receiving clinic just scanned the fax and emailed it to us :(

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on May 06, 2018, 03:08:58 pm
Faxes are legal, emails not because they can be altered.

Yes, the legal community is full of morons. A fax is just as easily altered as an email, but the brain dead liars (lawyers) are so full of themselves that they couldn't extricate themselves from a wet paper bag.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 06, 2018, 03:24:38 pm
Yes, the legal community is full of morons. A fax is just as easily altered as an email, but the brain dead liars (lawyers) are so full of themselves that they couldn't extricate themselves from a wet paper bag.

Imagine the judges.... Like those Senators questioning Zuckerberg about Facebook, who clearly hadn't seen a computer in their lives.

 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on May 09, 2018, 08:42:13 am
Faxes are legal, emails not because they can be altered.

Yup, you can do electronic signatures and realestate transactions by email and never physically see an agent.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 11, 2018, 06:33:52 am
Well, my product launched but... it's been bumpy.  My offshore team has been a little skimpy on preparation for certain things and it shows.  A few small security issues, some data issues. 

We're getting through it, however they have also hired a young manager to assist me and usurption is in the air.  I am ok with it.  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on May 11, 2018, 08:28:12 am
so... you're that kind of PM, hey!  ;D

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Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 11, 2018, 08:47:50 am
Not sure how you got that but you are right.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 11, 2018, 09:50:23 pm
I met a bartender who is either really into me, or really good at convincing me that she is.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 11, 2018, 09:52:14 pm
I met a bartender who is either really into me, or really good at convincing me that she is.

 -k

Hmmmm.... there's always the danger that they are just doing their job, albeit in a friendly way.

Also.... how big is Kim City that you seem to meet a new person every few months ?  I thought it was a tiny town.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 11, 2018, 09:57:20 pm
Hmmmm.... there's always the danger that they are just doing their job, albeit in a friendly way.

Also.... how big is Kim City that you seem to meet a new person every few months ?  I thought it was a tiny town.

I may on occasion exaggerate how small Kim City really is.  There are over 125,000 people in Kim City itself, plus roughly 30,000 more in nearby municipalities and unincorporated areas, and it's also the regional hub of a pretty large area.  It's also one of the fastest growing communities in Canada, behind just a handful of cities in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 12, 2018, 07:13:42 am
Ah ok.  It's a biggish city then...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 12, 2018, 10:34:58 am
Well, big enough that the dating pool is a pool and not just a fishbowl.  And with the amount of people arriving and leaving, there's always new people to meet.  Unfortunately most of the new people coming and going are young people, often arriving for college or to start their careers. Now that I'm no longer exactly young  I am not sure about dating people in their early 20s. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 12, 2018, 10:35:36 am
I am not sure about dating people in their early 20s. 
 

Yeah, but I'll bet they are...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on May 12, 2018, 06:56:25 pm
I may on occasion exaggerate how small Kim City really is.  There are over 125,000 people in Kim City itself, plus roughly 30,000 more in nearby municipalities and unincorporated areas, and it's also the regional hub of a pretty large area.  It's also one of the fastest growing communities in Canada, behind just a handful of cities in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

 -k
Kim City is double the size of the capital of New Brunswick. hah
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 13, 2018, 10:50:26 pm
Yeah, but I'll bet they are...

Sure about what?


Based on my own adventures and misadventures at that age, I suspect that many of them aren't actually sure of anything.     You're young and attractive and the world is full of possibilities and there are many things you're interested in or curious about, and you're excited to experience as much of it as you can.  And some of the things that seemed interesting when you were reading about them or saw them in a movie turn out to be not quite what you were expecting. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 14, 2018, 05:10:55 am
Sure about what?

What they want to do in the moment.

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Based on my own adventures and misadventures at that age, I suspect that many of them aren't actually sure of anything.     You're young and attractive and the world is full of possibilities and there are many things you're interested in or curious about, and you're excited to experience as much of it as you can.  And some of the things that seemed interesting when you were reading about them or saw them in a movie turn out to be not quite what you were expecting. 
 

I think I wrote about dating a much older women when I was younger.  I knew I wanted to try it, and she was wise enough to know what I was up to when she bought in.  It was quite a romance, although short.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on May 16, 2018, 09:42:10 am
I'm going to Slayer on Sunday.   ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on May 16, 2018, 11:33:07 pm
Won a new position at work, it's a challenging job but I'm loving it.  Also a promotion in that it's 5 levels above my previous position and that does translate into a bit more money.  Yay me!  I'd buy you all lunch, but it would probably just end up in a huge food fight.    ;D   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 23, 2018, 03:20:02 am
What they want to do in the moment.

I feel like "in the moment" is an important disclaimer when you're talking about people in their early 20s. It certainly was for me, at least. I never did anything I didn't want to do, but I did lots of things that made me think, later, "what the heck was I thinking..."  Life was like Disneyland, and I wanted to go on all the rides. Some of them were great, some were fun, some were scary, some made me barf...

I had mentioned the bartender, who is a quite a bit younger than me.  And there's a waitress at a place I often go... we've never talked, but the eye contact and smiles and amount of mutual checking out... it makes my heart beat quicker. She's probably about 20, which makes me feel dirty and old.

But instead...

I think I wrote about dating a much older women when I was younger.  I knew I wanted to try it, and she was wise enough to know what I was up to when she bought in.  It was quite a romance, although short.

 ...I went to an open house this weekend and ended up giving the realtor my number.  Considerably older than me, divorced, has adult children out in the world. MILF, cougar type. She texted me today, and I've been on pins and needles ever since.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 23, 2018, 03:55:53 am
Having trouble sleeping.  Lots of shouting going on somewhere close by.  Followed by 15 minutes of quiet.  Followed by the RCMP arriving with sirens blaring.  Followed by more shouting. It's a vicious cycle.  Lots of partying going on tonight for some reason.  Drunk mooks and woo-hoo girls.  Mook season runs basically from May long weekend to Labor Day and really picks up in July and August, so things are just going to get louder.   


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 23, 2018, 06:17:37 am

I had mentioned the bartender, who is a quite a bit younger than me.  And there's a waitress at a place I often go... we've never talked, but the eye contact and smiles and amount of mutual checking out... it makes my heart beat quicker. She's probably about 20, which makes me feel dirty and old.

Well, sure ... but curiosity didn't kill the cat, at least not right away...

Quote
...I went to an open house this weekend and ended up giving the realtor my number.  Considerably older than me, divorced, has adult children out in the world. MILF, cougar type. She texted me today, and I've been on pins and needles ever since.
 

You seem to be at that age where you can trade up to older, or down to younger... or something.  When I was 32 I took a break from my 24-year old girlfriend to date a 50-year old.  The 24-year old was quite jealous and they almost met up at a play I was in.... hoo-boy. 

I just met up with a girl pal (never dated) from university last night.  Don't know how she does it - she is in her 50s and chubby and never goes without a guy for long.  She is on a break with her boyfriend, and right away met a younger dude who is pleasuring her while the boyfriend (none the wiser) figures out if he wants to commit to a relationship.  To those of you singles who meet people at the rate of one a year or more, congratulations.  I know many who go years without a date.  Maybe they don't try.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 23, 2018, 06:22:08 am
When we last tuned in on my career, usurption was in the air... and... it HAPPENED.

Not sure why, but the new guy has effectively shut me out of communication and decision making.  I attend conference calls, but I am a ghost... I say 'hello' at the start then sit there for an hour.

Between meetings I have one task: forward emails that come to me automatically from a ticket system.  I forward them to the new guy to do the work.  Other than that, I surf.

Yes, it is bugging me.  They are paying me many thousands every week to do nothing.  And it kills me because I like the company, and they really need me to organize their projects.  But they don't know what they don't know... so they give me nothing to do.

I told my grand-boss that they should make me a project organizer guy... and he said he'd let me know next week.  If the answer is 'no' then I'm going to find something else.  I have an interview with a bank on Friday and then a phone interview for a fancy job on June 1st.  The bank seems the most likely choice right now.

I don't like feeling useless.  It is actually depressing.  My old boss and underling were fired, and the new guy is socializing and making friends while simultaneously shutting me out and being cold to me.  Surprising how much stuff like that can affect you, even in middle age.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 23, 2018, 06:24:18 am
Separate discussion with my gal pal from last night:

She said she would end a marriage over lack of sex, no question.  Would you ?  I would not.  I would end it through cruelty, or desperate circumstances but not that.  If love is there then I am showing up.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on May 23, 2018, 08:19:34 am
Separate discussion with my gal pal from last night:

She said she would end a marriage over lack of sex, no question.  Would you ?  I would not.  I would end it through cruelty, or desperate circumstances but not that.  If love is there then I am showing up.

When I was younger, I might have since I conflated love and sex to some extent.   Not so much any more, so depending on the reason for "no sex", it wouldn't be a deal breaker.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 24, 2018, 12:26:19 am
When we last tuned in on my career, usurption was in the air... and... it HAPPENED.

Not sure why, but the new guy has effectively shut me out of communication and decision making.  I attend conference calls, but I am a ghost... I say 'hello' at the start then sit there for an hour.

I'll have to work this into an upcoming episode.   I'm suspicious of this new guy. Maybe he works for Ooblik? 

Sorry to hear you're on unsteady ground. :(

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 24, 2018, 01:05:57 am
Well, sure ... but curiosity didn't kill the cat, at least not right away...

I know... I just don't want to get caught up in some kind of Patrick Brown type of thing.

You seem to be at that age where you can trade up to older, or down to younger... or something.  When I was 32 I took a break from my 24-year old girlfriend to date a 50-year old.  The 24-year old was quite jealous and they almost met up at a play I was in.... hoo-boy. 

This encounter kind of caught me by surprise. I didn't go in with the intention of becoming a MILF-hunter. And the idea of being with someone that much older than me isn't normally something I'd be that interested in.  I had just sort of on a whim decided to view the property, as it's close by and I have always liked the house from the outside. I thought this might be my only chance to see the inside.  She's charismatic and engaging, as sales-people often are. She obviously puts a lot of work into her appearance... my guess is that she's in her early 50s, give or take. She's good looking for her age.  Tan, bleached hair, fairly fit, probably spends a fair amount of time on a treadmill or doing yoga or something like that. Implants, but not comedy-sized ones.  I don't have a lot of experience with real estate people, but it seems like many of them put a lot of work into their appearance. Anyway, she looks pretty good with clothes on, and I found myself wondering if she'd look good naked or if she'd have old lady wrinkles everywhere. Maybe she picked up on my curiosity, I dunno.  So we're getting together for drinks tomorrow. 


I just met up with a girl pal (never dated) from university last night.  Don't know how she does it - she is in her 50s and chubby and never goes without a guy for long.  She is on a break with her boyfriend, and right away met a younger dude who is pleasuring her while the boyfriend (none the wiser) figures out if he wants to commit to a relationship.  To those of you singles who meet people at the rate of one a year or more, congratulations.  I know many who go years without a date.  Maybe they don't try.

Some people are blessed with personality and people-skills that let them navigate social situations with ease.  Others are blessed with kim-bobbles.  If it came down to social skills and personality, I'd be so screwed.

Separate discussion with my gal pal from last night:

She said she would end a marriage over lack of sex, no question.  Would you ?  I would not.  I would end it through cruelty, or desperate circumstances but not that.  If love is there then I am showing up.

As I've mentioned before, I'm a severe introvert at heart, and the idea of wanting a constant companion is pretty alien to me. That makes the idea of marriage itself pretty alien to me... so maybe I'm not qualified to say what I'd end a marriage over.  When I do crave companionship, physical intimacy is one of the things I crave most.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 24, 2018, 06:18:57 am
I'll have to work this into an upcoming episode.   I'm suspicious of this new guy. Maybe he works for Ooblik? 

Sorry to hear you're on unsteady ground. :(

 -k

I have 2 other interviews and I have never been in more demand.  It's more the sadness of having to leave again... and of being shunned.  It really does hurt.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 24, 2018, 06:21:57 am
   When I do crave companionship, physical intimacy is one of the things I crave most.


 -k

Me too, but that's not sex either.  You can have physical intimacy and sex, but not from the same person... or from one person and yourself...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 24, 2018, 09:07:38 am
Me too, but that's not sex either.  You can have physical intimacy and sex, but not from the same person... or from one person and yourself...

I have been an angry incel for like 2 months, and it's getting to me.  I'm not quite agitated enough to rent a van yet, but I definitely need to get things sorted out quickly.  Especially with summer here... I'm running and rowing and cycling and lifting, so my body is just constantly full of energy. And now it's beach season, which is driving me even more mental.  Pretty much every time I venture outside.  hnnnngggggghh.   At this point, when I say I'm craving physical intimacy, I pretty much mean sex.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 24, 2018, 09:19:16 am
Ah well... at least you're exercising.  You have options and for an introvert you seem to get a few.  Stick with it - you're winning !
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 25, 2018, 01:08:09 pm
Interview this afternoon.  Wish me luck !   ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 25, 2018, 05:17:16 pm
Wow.  Well that sucked.  I think I feel worse about myself after that interview.  Two asian ladies, much younger than me and with not much experience but holy shit they were smart.  I bombed but... worse... my view of my recent project experience is downgraded.

Old dog needs a new trick....  :'(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 25, 2018, 10:18:25 pm
Wow.  Well that sucked.  I think I feel worse about myself after that interview.  Two asian ladies, much younger than me and with not much experience but holy shit they were smart.  I bombed but... worse... my view of my recent project experience is downgraded.

Old dog needs a new trick....  :'(

No!  Mikaru not sucko!  Mikaru goodo! Mikaru greato!


Sorry to hear your interview was not a success.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 25, 2018, 10:54:48 pm
On the bright side my date turned out pretty good.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 26, 2018, 06:42:01 am
On the bright side my date turned out pretty good.

 -k

Oh ?  Well that's nice.  Do you have a new friend ?  What's the story ?  The cougary real-estate lady seems like a different breed from you.  Is she a kindred spirit ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 27, 2018, 05:23:51 am
Oh ?  Well that's nice.  Do you have a new friend ?  What's the story ?  The cougary real-estate lady seems like a different breed from you.  Is she a kindred spirit ?
We're polar opposites, personality wise.  She's a talker, the kind who needs to talk even if she doesn't have anything interesting to say. I guess that's not surprising considering her line of work. She seems like the sort of person who loves being the center of attention, loves being with loud groups of friends and being at loud parties.  I don't see relationship potential, and I don't think she has any interest in that anyway.  I think she sees this as a booty-call while she's between relationships with men. Which is completely fine with me.  She's energetic and assertive and fun, and definitely not new at this.  After spending months with FOB types, that's a nice change.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 27, 2018, 06:36:13 am
After spending months with FOB types, that's a nice change.
 

Ok.  FOB... Free on Board ?  or Fresh off the Boat ?   ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 27, 2018, 11:21:28 am
Ok.  FOB... Free on Board ?  or Fresh off the Boat ?   ???

Fresh Off Boat.    I don't mind being a tour-guide, it can be fun.  But being with someone who is experienced and confident and can take charge is exciting.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 27, 2018, 12:24:56 pm
OOlp  I missed the context.  Thought you were talking about immigrants.

 :-[
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 27, 2018, 12:39:00 pm
OOlp  I missed the context.  Thought you were talking about immigrants.

 :-[

hahah, no!  Not that I'd be opposed to that. Just that it seems like people I was meeting were very new to the sex part of things. Curious, or inexperienced, or unsure. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 27, 2018, 01:01:12 pm
From my gay male friends I have heard both sides of those encounters.   Somehow relatable even to cis straight people.  Awkwardness is universal maybe ?  At least to me...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 27, 2018, 11:49:16 pm
There are some people I can't picture ever having an awkward moment.

Maybe some people maybe the sex is the awkward part.  For me, it's the easy part, and everything that happens prior to clothes coming off is awkwardness. Luckily she mad that part quite easy and fun.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 28, 2018, 08:40:17 am
How did she make the awkward part easy ?  I'm glad it's the talking part because as an awkward person that is what I am interested in.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on May 28, 2018, 10:26:05 am
How did she make the awkward part easy ?  I'm glad it's the talking part because as an awkward person that is what I am interested in.

She slid her glasses down her nose, looking over the rims while biting her lip and said, "Well, Miss Kimmy. Your library books are 2 weeks overdue. You've been a very bad girl."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 28, 2018, 10:45:08 am
She slid her glasses down her nose, looking over the rims while biting her lip and said, "Well, Miss Kimmy. Your library books are 2 weeks overdue. You've been a very bad girl."

Cut that out.

Plus, she's a real estate agent.  She probably only reads "Personal Power" by Anthony Robbins
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on May 28, 2018, 11:22:38 am
Cut that out.

Plus, she's a real estate agent.  She probably only reads "Personal Power" by Anthony Robbins
In that case, she probably said, "let me show you how spacious the master bedroom is....and call me master."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 28, 2018, 11:45:49 am
In that case, she probably said, "let me show you how spacious the master bedroom is....and call me master."

(https://media.giphy.com/media/yQEmQSOasdG36/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 28, 2018, 10:38:43 pm
She slid her glasses down her nose, looking over the rims while biting her lip and said, "Well, Miss Kimmy. Your library books are 2 weeks overdue. You've been a very bad girl."
Not gonna lie... that's hot.

(https://i.imgur.com/oApHucP.gif)

Cut that out.

Plus, she's a real estate agent.  She probably only reads "Personal Power" by Anthony Robbins

 ;D  :D

In that case, she probably said, "let me show you how spacious the master bedroom is....and call me master."

I'm not sure if this is more cheesy or less cheesy than what actually happened.

How did she make the awkward part easy ?  I'm glad it's the talking part because as an awkward person that is what I am interested in.

So... she's a natural talker, as sales people often are.  Some people just have a gift for it.  I have tried to observe them and learn their ways, but it will just never come natural to me. Being assertively interested in the other person, or at least faking it. That sort of thing.  Another big part of it was her being confident and taking the steps that people are often nervous about taking.  When we got to the part of the evening where it was time to move along, she says "let's go back to my place" with seemingly no fear of rejection. She gave me the grand tour, and mixed drinks for us, and we talked more, and when it's again starting to feel like time to make a decision, she says "let's play strip poker!"  Which is silly and ridiculous, but also kind of genius. I lost quite badly, and had to perform "dares" to keep playing after I ran out of clothes, and we were both pretty riled up before she even ran out of clothes.  I think the most important thing she did was to confidently take the initiative at points where dates sometimes fizzle out (like the part where you've paid your tabs and aren't sure what next and somebody chickens out and says "wellll, I have to get up early tomorrow...")  She didn't let it get to those points.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 29, 2018, 06:28:42 am
Ahhh... simplicity is almost always the answer.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 30, 2018, 01:15:27 pm

Sorry to hear your interview was not a success.

 -k

So turns out I was wrong and they liked me... at least a little bit.  The only thing that makes sense is if they liked me because they are going to offer me 50K less to go work for them.  I think my utter obsequiousness by the end of this may have worked for me as in....

"This Michael guy must be at least a LITTLE smart to realize how much dumber he is than us...."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 31, 2018, 07:20:26 pm
okaaaay.... so I am not getting renewed at my company... after saving the world over there.

At least they were nice about it. 

Now the interview I thought I bombed says they are putting together an offer.  Now I am starting to realize that I pretty much need 6 figures to live in this city.  And I have a 20-year old car.  I don't understand how people live here....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 31, 2018, 11:29:54 pm
okaaaay.... so I am not getting renewed at my company... after saving the world over there.

What a bunch of jerks!  >:(  If you need anybody's knees broken, just send me a PM. 

At least they were nice about it. 

Now the interview I thought I bombed says they are putting together an offer.  Now I am starting to realize that I pretty much need 6 figures to live in this city.  And I have a 20-year old car.  I don't understand how people live here....

So why?

I read an article recently about Millennials abandoning the biggest cities, in droves, to move to "second tier" cities that still offer most of the perks of living in New York or LA or San Francisco, without the exorbitant cost of living. People graduated from college and moved in with romantic ideas about these places, but after the excitement of living in a "prestige" city wore off, people found it wasn't as great as they imagined, and left.

I had this fight with the previous significant other many times. Obviously, Kim City isn't a "second tier" city, it's not even in the top ten tiers... but I have a job and a home and everything I need here, while she's struggling to make ends meet in Vancouver.    Why? What's so great about it?  I just don't see the point.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 31, 2018, 11:31:27 pm
I had forgotten how exciting it can be to receive naughty text messages out of the blue.   ;D

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 01, 2018, 06:25:06 am
I had forgotten how exciting it can be to receive naughty text messages out of the blue.   ;D

 -k

OOPS.  Sorry about that.  :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 01, 2018, 07:08:07 am
What a bunch of jerks!  >:(  If you need anybody's knees broken, just send me a PM. 

So why?

I read an article recently about Millennials abandoning the biggest cities, in droves, to move to "second tier" cities that still offer most of the perks of living in New York or LA or San Francisco, without the exorbitant cost of living. People graduated from college and moved in with romantic ideas about these places, but after the excitement of living in a "prestige" city wore off, people found it wasn't as great as they imagined, and left.

I had this fight with the previous significant other many times. Obviously, Kim City isn't a "second tier" city, it's not even in the top ten tiers... but I have a job and a home and everything I need here, while she's struggling to make ends meet in Vancouver.    Why? What's so great about it?  I just don't see the point.

 -k

Meh.  The company paid me well.  Now that I have succeeded they can't afford to keep me.

I am 50_50 on the city.  It's still fun for now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 02, 2018, 09:25:32 am
Need a baby name.  Male.  Irish. 

Go !
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on June 02, 2018, 10:14:47 am
Kelly, Kerry, Aiden (or Aedon), Sean, Dylan, Liam, Braden, Brendan, Reilly (or Riley).
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 02, 2018, 11:40:17 am
I think you should name the baby "Bubber" if it's a boy, and "BC_Cheque" if it's a girl.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 02, 2018, 12:21:38 pm
I think you should name the baby "Bubber" if it's a boy, and "BC_Cheque" if it's a girl.

 -k

It's a boy.  How about Bush Cheney ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 02, 2018, 12:46:56 pm
Only if you want him to get beat up at school.

By the teachers.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on June 04, 2018, 09:47:46 am
I know some people here who just had a baby boy and named him Declan.  Seems like a nice name.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 04, 2018, 10:32:52 am
I know some people here who just had a baby boy and named him Declan.  Seems like a nice name.

It just made the suggestion list.  Also I am a fan of Declan McManus.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 05, 2018, 12:47:05 am
I think "Coonlight" would be a lovely name for a child.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 07:53:15 am
It just made the suggestion list.  Also I am a fan of Declan McManus.

Great news.  Joan went for it, although she cooled off quickly.  So far it's our #1.  Goddess may have named my child !  ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 01:25:13 pm
Yeah.  Soooooo bored right now.  I am done here at end of June and just waiting for some irons in the fire on a new job.

Can't facebook at work so I am hitting 'refresh' on the old politics sites and listening to news radio :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on June 05, 2018, 02:45:43 pm
Hey speaking of personal stuff, anybody else out there a sailboat freak? I got hooked many years ago when I was invited down to the Bahamas during a time off from work in mid winter, and what a lovely change to go from Labrador snow banks to Caribbean waves. (water and heat) The friend of the friend who invited me who owned the boat also owned a yacht dealership on the East Coast. Next thing I know I'm making a deal to buy a boat of my own. Hoping there are boat stories out there.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 02:48:55 pm
Hey speaking of personal stuff, anybody else out there a sailboat freak?

My dad-in-law is a sailing nut on the Bay of Quinte.  I never saw the appeal, but going out with him is just fantastic fun.  Very special way to relax but a little expensive.  He shares a boat with 3 others I think.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on June 05, 2018, 03:12:51 pm
My dad-in-law is a sailing nut on the Bay of Quinte.  I never saw the appeal, but going out with him is just fantastic fun.  Very special way to relax but a little expensive.  He shares a boat with 3 others I think.

Yes they can be expensive and I didn't have the dough for a fancy ass big boat but I was able to afford a small sloop which could sleep 6 but most of the time there was just the two of us aboard. That yacht dealership I mentioned was just north of Boston and I had a bee in my bonnet that I was going to sail this thing back to that same dock in Nassau where I had first ever set foot on a sailboat. Took us a while but we finally got there. I was in a job where I could work 7 days a week and stack up my vacation time and take it all at once and so we might have a couple of months to inch our way down the US east coast and then tie up. It was a more interesting way to integrate with the country than through hotels and airports. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 03:18:20 pm
Oh yes, going by the shoreline is fascinating.  It's really a great thing.

Hard to afford for a working man :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 03:19:57 pm
Well, speaking of work.  It looks like the bank wants to hire me full time.  Pay will be something like $30K-$40K less than now but there is potential for bonus and the team seems amazing.  Also... there is this little parental leave thing I would be taking up in the next few months.

I had to ask the HR person about that today.  I hope that it doesn't scuttle my offer.  I think I could sue them though ?  Right ?   ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on June 05, 2018, 04:20:39 pm
Sorry, I was thinking of the Irish boys' names again.......

We have a radio DJ here named Lochlan Cross.  Lochlan sounds nice.

I have friends down south who named their little boy Finn.

Or maybe Ronan......good Irish name.

Haha, okay that's it.  :D

I was thinking though that a lot of Irish names for boys seem to serve well for them as children and also names that serve well as adults.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 05, 2018, 04:38:20 pm
I like Ronan but it didn't fly.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 06, 2018, 09:41:19 am
Happy Kim Day to everyone!



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 07, 2018, 09:30:53 am
This year's Kim Day was a bit of a dud. Stayed home, by myself.  Not even a birthday spanking this year.  :( 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on June 07, 2018, 01:27:53 pm
This year's Kim Day was a bit of a dud. Stayed home, by myself.  Not even a birthday spanking this year.  :( 

 -k

I have had birthdays and Christmasses like that.   Most years I could care less, but this year, turming the big 6-0, I decided to organize my own BD party, including planning my own gifts.   Went pretty well and was exactly the right people, food and length of time.  Huge advantage of planning your own - you really get what you want.  :)   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 11, 2018, 04:04:11 pm
So John and Kayla are a thing again...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 11, 2018, 04:55:17 pm
Who?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 11, 2018, 05:16:47 pm
So John and Kayla are a thing again...
Boo.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 11, 2018, 07:49:19 pm
You and some of my family have a similar opinion.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 11, 2018, 08:24:04 pm
I just hate to see someone take advantage of your kindness and generosity.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 12, 2018, 01:35:46 am
So John and Kayla are a thing again...

 You've both been through a lot, and it might be hard to get back to the way things used to be. I hope things work out for the best, but I am concerned for you. Best wishes.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 12, 2018, 05:03:01 am
You've both been through a lot, and it might be hard to get back to the way things used to be. I hope things work out for the best, but I am concerned for you. Best wishes.

 -k

OOhhhh....

You should write down a note for yourself, and in that note write down the limit of how much grief you will put up with and how exactly you will delimit where you decide that enough is enough.  Then make a promise to act if that limit is passed.

Take care.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on June 12, 2018, 08:45:15 am
So John and Kayla are a thing again...
I did this once.  I really loved the guy, still do 20 years on, but the issues that broke us up the first time were still there the second time.  They weren't just his issues, but mine as well.  Really good counselling might have helped but we didn't try that.  Anyway, I hope things go better for the two of you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 12, 2018, 11:50:28 am
OMG this is mind-crushing... I literally have nothing to do.  I feel embarrassed walking the halls at "work" here.  I am done June 29th :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 12, 2018, 11:53:34 am
OMG this is mind-crushing... I literally have nothing to do.  I feel embarrassed walking the halls at "work" here.  I am done June 29th :(
Jesus. Why don't they just give you leave?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on June 12, 2018, 11:57:45 am
OMG this is mind-crushing... I literally have nothing to do.  I feel embarrassed walking the halls at "work" here.  I am done June 29th :(

Sounds to me like you're getting a bad flu.   ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 12, 2018, 12:03:24 pm
Sounds to me like you're getting a bad flu.   ;)

Yeah but I can't charge for sick time.  I have to be ready for work.  i am working from home one day a week but that's about as much as I can likely get away with.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on June 12, 2018, 01:33:24 pm
OMG this is mind-crushing... I literally have nothing to do.  I feel embarrassed walking the halls at "work" here.  I am done June 29th :(

And they say government is inefficient.....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 12, 2018, 01:57:25 pm
And they say government is inefficient.....

Oh they all are...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 12, 2018, 08:10:00 pm
False alarm I think.  Life is strange.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 13, 2018, 05:57:10 am
False alarm I think.  Life is strange.
Dude. Don’t be the guy who doesn’t let her leave.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on June 13, 2018, 07:10:09 am
False alarm I think.  Life is strange.

Well I've been following, but ingoring this thread for quite some time, because you never really understand someones life from the Internet. It does seem however someone needs to have some sense slapped into them.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on June 13, 2018, 07:58:09 am
And they say government is inefficient.....
I had a government job working as a proofreader for the Manitoba Legislature once. It was an assembly line of constant work and when the work ran out, your work day was done and you punched the clock and went home. They were really strict about production too and you had to do a certain number of words per hour. Brutally efficient with the taxpayers' money, they were.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 13, 2018, 05:14:06 pm
Dude. Don’t be the guy who doesn’t let her leave.

She can leave - id rather she didn’t.  Then again she’d rsther she didn’t too so.  She still very damaged - I have to let things be and just be cool with whatever, unfortunately.  Her attitude is a daily surprise.

Last week she told me, if two people can’t stay away from each other, maybe they shouldn’t.  She was referring to her and me.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 15, 2018, 06:15:23 am
HOW ARE YOU ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 15, 2018, 06:18:06 am
I am enjoying the conversations on here, and am sad that I don't have time to go through the 'safe injection thread' in detail this morning as I have to get to work.  So busy now in the new job and getting ready for baby.  I am still off cigarettes completely and mostly feeling energetic and balanced.

Last night I did a comedy show on a boat in the harbour.  Joan came too.  It was funny, and we drove home via downtown.  Kinda magical.  Then I started feeling sick and she put me to bed early with some Tylonol.  I am glad to have her.  I'll try to post a picture I took of some urban sites on the way home.

How the hell are you anyway ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on August 15, 2018, 09:28:12 am
I am enjoying the conversations on here, and am sad that I don't have time to go through the 'safe injection thread' in detail this morning as I have to get to work.  So busy now in the new job and getting ready for baby.  I am still off cigarettes completely and mostly feeling energetic and balanced.

Last night I did a comedy show on a boat in the harbour.  Joan came too.  It was funny, and we drove home via downtown.  Kinda magical.  Then I started feeling sick and she put me to bed early with some Tylonol.  I am glad to have her.  I'll try to post a picture I took of some urban sites on the way home.

How the hell are you anyway ?
I'm good. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 15, 2018, 10:01:32 am
I'm dandy. Service Engine Soon light comes on intermittently though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 15, 2018, 10:06:53 am
I spent the weekend in Vancouver and visited my last two significant others. Separately. (They both live there, but are not together. They don't even like each other.)

I cried a lot and made a complete fool of myself. I am wishing there was a way to travel back in time and undo this extremely poor decision. I have spent the last roughly 60 hours in a state of constant cringe at how embarrassing this was.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 15, 2018, 10:08:28 am
I'm dandy. Service Engine Soon light comes on intermittently though.

My "ABS" warning comes on intermittently. Like, about one time in ten, when I start the vehicle, the yellow ABS warning comes on and stays on until I stop the engine.  Next time I start it, ABS warning is gone by itself. No idea why.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 15, 2018, 10:10:50 am
My "ABS" warning comes on intermittently.

Maybe I need to do more sit-ups and crunches?

Also the extreme poor air quality is playing hell with my sinuses and I am thinking of staying home from work today. Should I call in sick?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on August 15, 2018, 10:39:57 am
I guess I am clueless to all these double entendres like check engine light and ABS warning.

Seriously though, visiting not one but two former significant others in one weekend, that is just plain nuts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 15, 2018, 11:10:12 am
I didn't mean it as a double entendre. I meant it in the context that the code is 0404, which probably means the EGR valve is dirty with carbon because I ride my bike everywhere and never drive (odometer just passed 50k on a 2005 vehicle) and it tends to accumulate when that happens. I'd fix it myself but the bolt holding it on is really tight and I tend to strip when I'm screwing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 15, 2018, 11:11:11 am
I spent the weekend in Vancouver and visited my last two significant others. Separately. (They both live there, but are not together. They don't even like each other.)

I cried a lot and made a complete fool of myself. I am wishing there was a way to travel back in time and undo this extremely poor decision. I have spent the last roughly 60 hours in a state of constant cringe at how embarrassing this was.

 -k

Wow.  My question would be if you were honest with yourself about why you went and what you could reasonably expect to get out of those visits.

If so then it's an honest failure.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 15, 2018, 11:13:29 am
Nope, no double entendre there. and I'd suggest you be more careful when wrenching your nuts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 16, 2018, 09:57:54 am
Wow.  My question would be if you were honest with yourself about why you went and what you could reasonably expect to get out of those visits.

If so then it's an honest failure.

... not a whole lot of thinking went into the whole operation.  "This smoke is gross! I should go away for the weekend! I have friends in Vancouver! It would be nice to see them!"  was about the extent of it.

I thought I was a grown-up and could handle seeing them in person without being an idiot but apparently not.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 16, 2018, 11:38:18 am
... not a whole lot of thinking went into the whole operation.  "This smoke is gross! I should go away for the weekend! I have friends in Vancouver! It would be nice to see them!"  was about the extent of it.

I thought I was a grown-up and could handle seeing them in person without being an idiot but apparently not.

 -k

Plenty of smoke in Vancouver too. 

What you should do is a country-wide ex tour.   Take a motorhome and visit them all!   That sounds like a ton of fun!   Only good things could come out of that! ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 16, 2018, 08:04:11 pm
A few Burning Mans ago we were in the desert and California was on fire, as it is now.  The moon came up a bright orange.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 16, 2018, 10:10:44 pm
Do people eat peyote at Burning Man?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 16, 2018, 10:19:42 pm
I bet they do while the spirit of Carlos Castaneda hovers o'erhead.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 17, 2018, 07:19:23 am
Do people eat peyote at Burning Man?

They have online forums where they *design* drugs specifically for the event.  I am sure people have done every drug.  The only things that I can think of that didn't happen are a murder... and a birth.  Which is why we didn't go this year.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 17, 2018, 07:19:40 am
I bet they do while the spirit of Carlos Castaneda hovers o'erhead.

Reference=missed
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on August 17, 2018, 09:29:29 am
Just found out I'm going to be a grama again  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 17, 2018, 10:20:51 am
Reference=missed
Really? I know virtually nothing about it, but what I have seen reminds me of the shamanism that Castaneda talked about in his Teachings of Don Juan book.

Anyway, everybody's having babies! Babies are excellent.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on August 17, 2018, 11:19:36 am

Anyway, everybody's having babies! Babies are excellent.

Grandchildren are the best!  My granddaughter just turned four and I just got back from visiting her.  Actual conversation we had:

Grandbaby:  Come to my room, Grama T-Wow, I will paint your nails.
Me:  OK.  Do I get to pick a color?
GB:  No.  I'm going to do rainbow nails.
Me: OK.
GB: **gets a stool**
Me:  Is that your toilet stool?
GB  YA!
Me:  Perfect!
GB:  Put your hands flat on it, like this.
Me:  Wonderful.  I love it.

She has an interesting technique - starts painting at the tip and doesn't stop til she gets to halfway to the first knuckle.  Fixes the blobby parts with toilet paper, so I have little bits of TP stuck to them.   :D

Anyways, the service was terrible and the prices were outrageous but I give this nail salon 5 stars.   :-*
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 17, 2018, 11:27:23 am

Anyway, everybody's having babies! Babies are excellent.
Last night I tried to hum a tune into Joan's belly.  A pause... Then WHAP the biggest damn kick we ever felt!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 17, 2018, 11:38:27 am
Last night I tried to hum a tune into Joan's belly.  A pause... Then WHAP the biggest damn kick we ever felt!

Maybe baby was already listening to Aretha.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 20, 2018, 06:15:56 am
And now a new thing: anxiety  >:(  I have rational reasons to feel it, I guess, but it's hitting me nonetheless.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 20, 2018, 04:26:30 pm
A little grand dad bragging. Oldest grand daughter just got back from England where she was with the BC U18 women's rugby team. They were there for ten days and won all three of their games, including beating the reigning English club champions 24-5. They also visited London, Bath, Oxford and Brighton while they were at it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 20, 2018, 04:34:07 pm
Congrats to you and them. Sounds like a fun trip. Now did they get to sit down to enjoy a feed of that traditional English dish....curry?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 20, 2018, 04:42:57 pm
Congrats to you and them. Sounds like a fun trip. Now did they get to sit down to enjoy a feed of that traditional English dish....curry?

Ya, they had a lot of fun. Don't know about the curry, haven't talked to her since she got back on Sunday.

The Brits were in India for more than 300 years and has a lot of the best Indian food, so I guess it could be called traditional
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 20, 2018, 04:51:46 pm
The kid is damn good. To be picked as a 17 year old to tour with the U18's was quite a coupe. Last March, she went to Vegas to play with the BC U18 Sevens. They came second. During the tryouts, the UBC coach stopped by and told her to keep her marks up because she could be in line for a scholarship. She is just going into grade 12. This summer at the provincials, the U Vic coach invited her to their tryouts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 25, 2018, 08:45:28 am
HOW ARE YOU ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 25, 2018, 08:48:06 am
I got some feedback on my communication practices on Friday...

Poor posture, resting bitch face and cutting people off are things I do.  I have been somewhat aware of these in the past and worked on them but it was kind of tough hearing it, especially from a much younger woman with a lot less experience.  Still, she could have said nothing.  I actually owe her a huge debt of gratitude.  (Side note she IS supposed to be coaching me as I am onboarding into a new environment using new methods but often times people leave this kind of thing out because it's personal and awkward.)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 25, 2018, 11:14:28 am
HOW ARE YOU ?

NOT GREAT, BOB


The heavy smoke in the air is a big reason why.  It's affecting my eyes, my sinuses, and my lungs. Normally at this time of year I would be out swimming, running, paddling my kayak, and biking in the hills. I love being physically active outdoors. Being asthmatic, trying to do those things right now with the current air quality would cause me to die.  It's sucking the joy out of life right now, affecting my mood and my energy level.  Everything feels like a chore.  This is worse than last summer, which was worse than I'd seen since I've lived here. If this is the way things are going to be every summer, I am going to have to rethink living here.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 25, 2018, 12:10:00 pm
Sore back today...   

Weather Report:  smoke has cleared.  Raining here today! 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 25, 2018, 04:19:11 pm
NOT GREAT, BOB
  I am going to have to rethink living here.


 -k

Come to TORONTO !  LOLs ! (Loads of Lesbians)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 25, 2018, 04:27:37 pm
Sore back today...   

Weather Report:  smoke has cleared.  Raining here today!

Wx report here was light rain in the am, then a breeze, blue sky, then more smoke, luckily fairly high up. It reminded me of my time in Nfld., "if you don't like the weather, just wait five minutes".
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 31, 2018, 11:34:04 pm
Come to TORONTO !  LOLs ! (Loads of Lesbians)

I get the impression that the scene in Toronto is mostly women who look like Al Franken.  Is it all flat-tops and thick-rim glasses?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 31, 2018, 11:51:23 pm
I am off to Edmonton for a brief visit with my family and some  friends.  I'll be back mid-week, unless I get arrested or stabbed.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on September 01, 2018, 06:49:26 am
Is it all flat-tops and thick-rim glasses?

 -k
Nah. It's a lipstick lesbian buffet in the Six.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 01, 2018, 12:33:38 pm
I am off to Edmonton for a brief visit with my family and some  friends.  I'll be back mid-week, unless I get arrested or stabbed.

 -k

Hope things go well for you.  Family can be challenging. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on September 01, 2018, 01:12:39 pm
NOT GREAT, BOB


The heavy smoke in the air is a big reason why.  It's affecting my eyes, my sinuses, and my lungs. Normally at this time of year I would be out swimming, running, paddling my kayak, and biking in the hills. I love being physically active outdoors. Being asthmatic, trying to do those things right now with the current air quality would cause me to die.  It's sucking the joy out of life right now, affecting my mood and my energy level.  Everything feels like a chore.  This is worse than last summer, which was worse than I'd seen since I've lived here. If this is the way things are going to be every summer, I am going to have to rethink living here.


 -k


The way things are going, there is no escaping it anywhere in the province.

We just got back from Kim City but we almost didn't go because of the smoke.  My husband wanted to cancel but I looked it up and air quality was just as bad in Vancouver so we went. 

Luckily there was some rain while we were there and the skies cleared up.  We got to breath while tasting wine, yay.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 03, 2018, 08:29:26 am
Well, we're in September and it's Labour Day.

I am trying to remember to breathe as a way to deal with anxiety of going back to work.  We may also visit a couple we know who just had a kid - a boy who will eventually be friends with ours I am sure.  We got a pile of onesies donated.  Baby is 10 weeks away now.   :o

The commute will be hell the first week of Sept.  It always is.  I'm in a show Tuesday night and taking out a friend for dinner who was laid off from tech at another bank after 28 years.

HOW ARE YOU ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 03, 2018, 11:22:14 am
A couple of weeks ago, I worked in a largish, square box into which 4 other work stations were crammed.  People have been complaining about that set up for years and it was part of the reason for a lot of turnover in that position.   The manager told me the same thing she's told previous employees: that if we came up with a plan, she'd support changing it.  So myself and a coworker did just that and we now have separated cubicles.  They're still pretty small but they provide better privacy and more natural light, so a definite improvement.   Feeling pretty good about that.

Our next door neighbor moved, and took his big dog whom he'd let run offleash..  The dog was nice enough but he and my dog got into a couple of scuffles, so I was always on the lookout to make sure he wasn't loose when I took my dog out.  Neighbor also had a nightly toke, which would drift into our windows so I won't miss that either.  Other than that they were good neighbors, helped us out by watering our yard when a flood forced us to live out for a few months last summer.

The new couple has moved in, got a little boy and maybe a baby.   She wears an abaya and hijab, so after the stories I read on these forums, I wondered if there'd be a huge cultural divide.   We ran into her outside our back door, and introduced ourselves; she had no hesitation shaking my (male) partner's hand and offered her hand to me.   So far, no attempt to force us to convert or die, but early days yet I guess.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 03, 2018, 11:24:01 am
We have maybe the most mixed neighbourhood I have lived in, or will.  All major races and religions.

No problems, of course...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 03, 2018, 11:35:24 am
We have maybe the most mixed neighbourhood I have lived in, or will.  All major races and religions.

No problems, of course...

Middle Eastern to the left of us, Columbian to the right.  Korean (?) top left, East Indian top right.   The neighbor who moved was Mexican.  The Middle Eastern and East Indian neighbors are both clearly devout.  Not sure about the Coumbian or Korean (?) neighbors.  The only person who ever caused trouble was a Canadian "White Nationalist"; his violence got him a court date and banned from this complex. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 03, 2018, 11:52:10 am
The new couple has moved in, got a little boy and maybe a baby.   She wears an abaya and hijab, so after the stories I read on these forums, I wondered if there'd be a huge cultural divide.   We ran into her outside our back door, and introduced ourselves; she had no hesitation shaking my (male) partner's hand and offered her hand to me.   So far, no attempt to force us to convert or die, but early days yet I guess.

I have several Muslim friends.  Most are very modern.  One female doesn't wear any headcovering, another is gay.  Another female wears a hijab.  I have met Muslim women who wouldn't shake my hand though.  Nice enough people, but different beliefs.  Like Christianity, there's a huge variety in what people believe and how strictly etc.

Modern Muslims are like most lazy Christians, they won't eat pork and they celebrate Eid but another than that they're like you and I.  I don't care about generalizing labels ("Muslims"), it all depends on what and how you believe.  I may think not eating pork because pigs are dirty swine so says some holy book is an illogical belief, but it's harmless.  Like Christianity, other ideas are less harmless.

I also got a tour inside a Mosque once by a Muslim acquaintance.  I got some odd stares from some people lol.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 03, 2018, 12:12:44 pm
I have several Muslim friends.  Most are very modern.  One female doesn't wear any headcovering, another is gay.  Another female wears a hijab.  I have met Muslim women who wouldn't shake my hand though.  Nice enough people, but different beliefs.  Like Christianity, there's a huge variety in what people believe and how strictly etc.

Modern Muslims are like most lazy Christians, they won't eat pork and they celebrate Eid but another than that they're like you and I.  I don't care about generalizing labels ("Muslims"), it all depends on what and how you believe.  I may think not eating pork because pigs are dirty swine so says some holy book is an illogical belief, but it's harmless.  Like Christianity, other ideas are less harmless.

I also got a tour inside a Mosque once by a Muslim acquaintance.  I got some odd stares from some people lol.

There are several Muslims where I work.  A girl who was born in Pakistan and lived there til she was 8 talked about celebrating Christmas, so I wondered and eventually asked her about her religious beliefs.  She said she was Muslim, but not really practicing - like most Muslims she knows, even in Pakistan. 

My sister thought, when she moved to Egypt, that she'd find a lot more devoutness but said that it wasn't  a lot different than Christans in Canada; some people are very religious, but most people are fairly casual about it.   There is a kind of lip service to Islam that may not extend to actual behaviour beyond what can be publically seen.  What is different from Canada is that reputation matters a lot, who you are related to, who you know and what they say about you. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on September 03, 2018, 12:14:34 pm
When I first moved from hicktown to Hogtown in the late 70's, I landed in an area called "The Beaches", near Lake Ontario. A quick ride in the elevator from my floor to street level could have you in the company of quite a variety of languages, skin colors, dress codes. I don't recall during the ~ 2 years I called that building home there ever being any noise of friction between those cultures. As I got to know a number of them I could see that they were all happy and proud to be, or on their way to becoming Canadians. It made me think a little more seriously of my citizenship I acquired simply by being born. It also made me happy they brought aspects of their previous cultures with them as often when I was heading down in that elevator, I was off for a stroll to the Danforth to sample the foods, the music, and to take a crack at enhancing my non English language skills. Always had fun.       
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on September 05, 2018, 11:59:46 am
Our company has undergone some restructuring.  We are hiring as we are quite short-staffed right now but so far have only received a few resumes.   :(

Part of it is caused by some upheaval in the municipal world, which has brought us 27 new clients in the last 2 months.

I'm taking on some of the travel duties, in addition to heading the communicaqtions department here - we have clients in 3 provinces - so I'll be doing a bit more travelling for work.  Good side of it is that we have a large client base in Manitoba, where my kids live, so I'll get to see them more often.  And on the company's dime!  And I get a new laptop to travel with.

First trip is next week.  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 05, 2018, 04:59:53 pm
What is different from Canada is that reputation matters a lot, who you are related to, who you know and what they say about you.

That's interesting.  They still have an honour culture.  The west used to have this.  Ie: in the 1800's you still had people (mostly men) challenging others to duels for disgracing their honour.  Alexander Hamilton, the US founding father, was fatally shot in a duel with another politician.

I find that in developing countries they have much bigger families usually, so many aunts/cousins etc. and so family talks and gossips a lot more ad things spread to more people.  Developing countries also tend to have communities where people know each other and talk to neighbours more often, like Canada use to be like.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 05, 2018, 07:04:58 pm
Got semi-ambushed into a "team review" meeting with the whole team, wherein we were given an online questionnaire to fill out anonymously and talk about how the team is "doing".  My worst fears were that I would get lambasted as my team doesn't know me but I did pretty well.  :D

Baby is 10 weeks away...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 05, 2018, 07:06:19 pm
That's interesting.  They still have an honour culture. 

Some stories illustrating that "honor" culture.

My sister rides the public transit buses and tells me about riders passing fares up to the driver via other riders, and having their change returned to them. 

My sister entered into an agreement to purchase a yet-to-be-completed flat at a certain price.  A few weeks later the builder came back and said he couldn't do it at the agreed upon price and my sister replied that she couldn't afgord the new price. Her husband was pretty furious and contacted  the builder's Bedouin tribe/family about it.   The builder was informed that he was honor-bound to complete the deal at the agreed upon price, even if he lost money.   They then "asked" what my sister could afford extra and eventually came to a deal that they w coukd both live with.   My sister is pretty happy with her flat, which is in her name.

Of course, not everyone is honorable.  My sister has had her phone stolen (but then the thief called her husband to let him know where she was), she's been harassed on the street and had people treat her poorly due to being female and/or not "Muslim" enough.  But by and large her experience with Egyptians has been positive, or she'd be back home.  Her husband is nothing but doting and generous.

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I find that in developing countries they have much bigger families usually, so many aunts/cousins etc. and so family talks and gossips a lot more ad things spread to more people.  Developing countries also tend to have communities where people know each other and talk to neighbours more often, like Canada use to be like.

Her husband's family tends to smaller sizes.  I don't think any of the brothers have more than 3 kids.  Education and economics affect family size.  But still lots of talk and veey strong family bonds. 

I never liked Canadian small town life because of that talking/gossipping thing.  Too much of a free spirit to meet the social expectations I guess.  I probably wouldn't do well in Egypt just because of that.   But my sister loves it there.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 05, 2018, 07:09:09 pm
Got semi-ambushed into a "team review" meeting with the whole team, wherein we were given an online questionnaire to fill out anonymously and talk about how the team is "doing".  My worst fears were that I would get lambasted as my team doesn't know me but I did pretty well.  :D

Baby is 10 weeks away...

Will you get parental leave?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 05, 2018, 07:15:34 pm
Will you get parental leave?

I feel that it's doubtful at this point.  I am happy enough to work in IT in a 40-hour workweek job. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 05, 2018, 11:28:50 pm
Baby is 10 weeks away...

You got a baby coming?  Congrats that's great man!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 06, 2018, 05:28:27 am
Yep.  I am stressed but happy !
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2018, 12:42:13 pm
Are you still planning to name him "Coonlight"?  I think that would be lovely!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 06, 2018, 06:09:57 pm
I just asked Joanie if "Kim" was possible....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2018, 11:29:30 pm
Kim Possible would be a great name for a girl!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 06, 2018, 11:38:09 pm
How about Graham?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 06, 2018, 11:38:36 pm
Wait, it's a girl, I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2018, 11:41:18 pm
Wait, it's a girl, I'm an idiot.

No, Michael's child-to-be is a boy.  That's why they're going with Coonlight rather than Kim Possible.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on September 06, 2018, 11:48:00 pm
I have to ask, is this a serious discussion with regard to actually naming a real child "coonlight"?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2018, 11:48:38 pm
Of course, obviously.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on September 06, 2018, 11:50:32 pm
Of course, obviously.

 -k

My fear is you could actually be serious. (from what I've seen)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 07, 2018, 05:20:06 am
Seriously we are running out of options.  I have suggested John (after SirJohn of course) but I haven't tried Vlad or Karl yet.

Waylon, Junior and Declan were all in consideration at some point.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 07, 2018, 07:41:08 am
When I was naming children, I didn't want a name that would say anything about the parents' personalities, because who would want a name like that? So I didn't stray too far from the top 10 most popular.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on September 07, 2018, 08:53:12 am
Seriously we are running out of options.  I have suggested John (after SirJohn of course) but I haven't tried Vlad or Karl yet.

Waylon, Junior and Declan were all in consideration at some point.
You seem like the type to name a child Xavier, Arlo, Van, Edison, Miller, Holden, Ryder, Van, or Beckett. Then your baby will fit in at Burning Man.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 07, 2018, 09:16:23 am
Weird that you said Van twice and Joan reacted to that one.

At the ultrasound clinic.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 07, 2018, 09:21:58 am
While he's small, you could call him minivan.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 07, 2018, 09:34:48 am
We live vans and talk about them a lot so Joan doesn't want to add to that.  Van is out as a name.

If anyone gives us a name, Joan and I will take you to dinner in Toronto, our choice.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 07, 2018, 09:42:29 am
I like the idea of a common but flexible name with a lot of variations to choose from. That way they have options. For example, Alexander can be Al, Alex, Xander, Sasha, Lex, or just the full name.
I don't know how they get Sasha out of that, but they do.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 07, 2018, 10:04:13 am
If anyone gives us a name, Joan and I will take you to dinner in Toronto, our choice.

Will you pay for the flight to Toronto though?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 07, 2018, 10:06:24 am
Also how about a list of rejected names so we don't go over old ground. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on September 07, 2018, 11:44:10 am
Donald
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 07, 2018, 11:47:15 am
You seem like the type to name a child Xavier, Arlo, Van, Edison, Miller, Holden, Ryder, Van, or Beckett. Then your baby will fit in at Burning Man.

I like Arlo!  Like Arlo Guthrie!  You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on September 07, 2018, 12:07:22 pm
I like Arlo!  Like Arlo Guthrie!  You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant!

 -k

I don wana pickle, just wana ride my motor sicle.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 07, 2018, 10:13:41 pm
Will you pay for the flight to Toronto though?

No.  You have to get your company to pay.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 08, 2018, 03:08:44 am
You should name your child after a Greek god.  There are no more badass names for a male.

Possibles:  Apollo, Hyperion, Achilles, Oceanus, Prometheus, Orion ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 08, 2018, 03:10:24 am
How about Batman?  Or Wolverine?  Logan?  The kid would love u.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 08, 2018, 06:29:29 am
These are fun to read but I won't be saying those out loud :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 08, 2018, 01:55:43 pm
How about DeShawn, Shaquille, or Jevante?

How about Aiden,  Brayden, Hayden, Jayden, or Kayden?

How about Helmut, Hans, Joergen, Jens, or Franz?

How about George?


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 08, 2018, 03:54:23 pm
I liked George but it got a flat no.  She liked Hans and Hayden.  Those don't make sense to me. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 08, 2018, 05:34:17 pm
I liked George but it got a flat no.  She liked Hans and Hayden.  Those don't make sense to me.

My great-grandson's father's name is Hayden.  My great-grandson's name is Dominic.  How about Hayden Dominic Hardener?   Or maybe Dominic Hayden Hardener?   

Have you considered Claude?   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 09, 2018, 12:46:36 am
Claude sounds like Clod. 

Hardner will not be part of this child's name if his parents have anything to do with it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 09, 2018, 04:27:23 am
Henry?

Charles?  Greg?  Shady?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 09, 2018, 09:13:28 am
I like 'Henry'... I'll try it out.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 09, 2018, 09:42:23 am
"Do you like the name Henry ?"
"No"
"Why not ?"
"I don't really like 'H' names"
"YOUR name is an 'H' name"
"I know"

:(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 20, 2018, 06:31:35 am
Still no name... but wife is really expanding so i hope that the hot weather stays away.

Pre-Natal classes tonight and I'm getting nervous... I can feel it. 

How are YOU doing today ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 20, 2018, 12:30:23 pm
Have been home sick from work for the past day and a bit, but I think I might go back this afternoon because I'm really bored.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on September 20, 2018, 04:36:24 pm
I might go back this afternoon because I'm really bored.

Take up knitting, your colleagues will appreciate it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 20, 2018, 05:10:08 pm
I decided to stay home.  I stopped at a store on the way to work and I was physically exhausted after 5 minutes of shopping. I took that as a message.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 20, 2018, 05:11:54 pm
Have been home sick from work for the past day and a bit, but I think I might go back this afternoon because I'm really bored.

 -k

Been sick too.  There's a bug going around.  I was bored too i was off a few days so i went back, i was feeling not horrible though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 20, 2018, 08:58:13 pm
Pre-natal class tonight.  Very weird.  Ten couples and we are there because we're all expecting very soon... all of us our first kid.  They did a great job... told us what we would have to do... tried to allay our fears but showed us some birthing videos.

I had never seen that before.   :o
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 22, 2018, 01:57:00 pm
Granddaughter is now homeless, has a bed in an emergency shelter, but wanders during the day in a town where she doesn't know anyone.  Some of this is a result of her own choices, and some is the result of things she has no control over.   It just breaks my heart.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on September 22, 2018, 02:05:47 pm
Granddaughter is now homeless, has a bed in an emergency shelter, but wanders during the day in a town where she doesn't know anyone.  Some of this is a result of her own choices, and some is the result of things she has no control over.   It just breaks my heart.

That's a tough one. Does she communicate with you?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 22, 2018, 02:23:09 pm
That's awful...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 22, 2018, 03:06:53 pm
That's a tough one. Does she communicate with you?

Yes.  I have offered her some space and time here but she declined because she wants to be independent.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on September 22, 2018, 03:08:56 pm
Big storm locally, tore up a bunch of houses and buildings, tore the shit out of the electric grid. Half the city was down, and much of it still is.
I was down about 24hrs. Had heat and lights, but no computer so no work. Need to get battery backup for my laptop and router if I can get my idiot brother in law to explain which of them I should buy (electrician). The roads have been in chaos since yesterday because there's no street lights. Every hotel that has power is fully booked. My brother came here to recharge his phone, a 20 minute drive. Took two hours. Some people won't get power back for days.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on September 22, 2018, 03:44:45 pm
Yes, the wind was howling very loudly in Montreal late last night and into the early hours. No power outage here, perhaps all that investment since the ice storm 20 years ago paid off. The neighbours deck chairs were blown around, but I didn't see a lot of damage; maybe the wind reduced somewhat as it headed east. I havn't watched the local news, so perhaps other parts of the city didn't fare as well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on September 22, 2018, 03:48:51 pm
Yes.  I have offered her some space and time here but she declined because she wants to be independent.

Well let's hope with a little time she will reconsider and take you up on the offer. Bless you for providing it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on September 22, 2018, 04:37:55 pm
Well let's hope with a little time she will reconsider and take you up on the offer. Bless you for providing it.

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 22, 2018, 04:42:00 pm
Good luck everyone with today's challenges.   :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 28, 2018, 06:22:41 am

My new job is very strange.  I found out my boss was born 202 days after I started my first job !  :o

I'm very busy, but the new management style (called 'Agile') means your deadlines are constant, every 2 weeks, and so you don't have big stressful deadlines on the horizon.  It's just a constant hum of work, which is more like what regular people (ie. people who don't do projects) have in the way of work.  It's also more collaborate and... ahem.. empowering.  And it's really about 50-50 women and 'diverse'.  I'm the classic Canadian part of the diversity mix.

Of course, I took about a $20-$40K hit to take this job but... it's regular work and a giant recession may well be coming.  With baby 6 weeks away I need a regular paycheck.  Still, it's hard to see emails from recruiters offering far north of $200K  >:( >:(.  All this and we still can't afford a house believe it or not.

BUT.... baby seems pretty healthy, Joanie is off work now and we started the baby course at Mt. Sinai.  (The black lady who gave us the delivery ward tour struggled to explain what a 'Sabbath' elevator was  ;D  "It's a religious elevator..." )  You can't leave the hospital with a baby without showing them a baby car seat, even if you don't own a car !

HOW YOU DOIN' ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on September 28, 2018, 11:23:47 am
I'm very busy, but the new management style (called 'Agile') means your deadlines are constant, every 2 weeks, and so you don't have big stressful deadlines on the horizon.  It's just a constant hum of work, which is more like what regular people (ie. people who don't do projects) have in the way of work.  It's also more collaborate and... ahem.. empowering.

That sounds interesting. Certainly the biggest work stress seems to be having too many projects with competing priorities and trying to balance them. Not sure how effective 'Agile' management may be in different scenarios, but might be worth exploring.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 28, 2018, 05:51:24 pm
That sounds interesting. Certainly the biggest work stress seems to be having too many projects with competing priorities and trying to balance them. Not sure how effective 'Agile' management may be in different scenarios, but might be worth exploring.

Well, for one thing you get ONE task to work on at a time.  You estimate it, and you pledge to get your tasks done within a two week timeframe. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 29, 2018, 07:08:49 pm
I have a new co-worker.   He worked with my other bosses back in the stone age, and recently retired from his long-time job. He is now joining us on a semi-full time basis for something to do, I guess.  He no doubt brings a wealth of information, experience, and contacts.  He will be a valuable addition, if I don't murder him.

The past week has brought a steady diet of unintentionally condescending patter, unintentionally patronizing remarks, stale jokes, and daily reminders that he's "on his best behavior" now that he's "sharing the office with a lady."  Like, my presence is a burden that prevents him from being himself.  He'd probably tell cruder jokes....they'd still be stale, but they'd be cruder.  I've already received a "you'd make somebody a great wife!" and a "how'd a girl like you stay single?" and I'm sure he'll offer to set me up with his idiot nephew at some point.  It could be worse. He's an unwitting boor, but at least he's not a deliberate pig. 



One of the bartenders I see a lot has been very flirty the last few times I've been through.  She's very ... sensual. The way she walks, the way she leans over the bar when she talks to you, the way she stands while she's mixing a drink... somehow everything she does just seems suggestive.  Monday she came and sat in the stool next to me and leaned into my personal space while she asked about my day, about work, and the usual things. It wasn't so much the questions as her posture, closeness, several touches, and the eye contact that made it feel ... intimate.  Thursday I stopped in for a quick drink on the way to my hair appointment, and when I was almost done my drink she came up behind me and ran her fingers up and down my back as she leaned over me and asked if I wanted another drink.  It made my heart beat quicker.

My brain is telling me that she's heterosexual and is probably like this with all her customers. My heart, and parts below my heart, are hopeful that there's more to it than that.   I've made a fool of myself before by misinterpreting signs women were giving me and it's extremely embarrassing. I am not ready to go out on the limb yet.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 29, 2018, 07:33:39 pm
My brain is telling me that she's heterosexual and is probably like this with all her customers. My heart, and parts below my heart, are hopeful that there's more to it than that.   I've made a fool of myself before by misinterpreting signs women were giving me and it's extremely embarrassing. I am not ready to go out on the limb yet.

If you don't end up having sex with this woman let me know so that I can come out and have sex with this woman.

Kidding aside, yeah it's tough reading signs sometimes, some people are naturally playful flirty, especially bartenders, i'd imagine it's x2 harder for non-heteros. I've misread women before, but as embarrassing as it is I don't have any regrets, I'd rather get embarrassed than miss an opportunity.  Maybe casually mention in convo about "my ex-gf did yadda yadda", see how she reacts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 30, 2018, 08:11:03 am
I have a new co-worker.   He worked with my other bosses back in the stone age, and recently retired from his long-time job. He is now joining us on a semi-full time basis for something to do, I guess.  He no doubt brings a wealth of information, experience, and contacts.  He will be a valuable addition, if I don't murder him.

The past week has brought a steady diet of unintentionally condescending patter, unintentionally patronizing remarks, stale jokes, and daily reminders that he's "on his best behavior" now that he's "sharing the office with a lady."  Like, my presence is a burden that prevents him from being himself.  He'd probably tell cruder jokes....they'd still be stale, but they'd be cruder.  I've already received a "you'd make somebody a great wife!" and a "how'd a girl like you stay single?" and I'm sure he'll offer to set me up with his idiot nephew at some point.  It could be worse. He's an unwitting boor, but at least he's not a deliberate pig. 



One of the bartenders I see a lot has been very flirty the last few times I've been through.  She's very ... sensual. The way she walks, the way she leans over the bar when she talks to you, the way she stands while she's mixing a drink... somehow everything she does just seems suggestive.  Monday she came and sat in the stool next to me and leaned into my personal space while she asked about my day, about work, and the usual things. It wasn't so much the questions as her posture, closeness, several touches, and the eye contact that made it feel ... intimate.  Thursday I stopped in for a quick drink on the way to my hair appointment, and when I was almost done my drink she came up behind me and ran her fingers up and down my back as she leaned over me and asked if I wanted another drink.  It made my heart beat quicker.

My brain is telling me that she's heterosexual and is probably like this with all her customers. My heart, and parts below my heart, are hopeful that there's more to it than that.   I've made a fool of myself before by misinterpreting signs women were giving me and it's extremely embarrassing. I am not ready to go out on the limb yet.


 -k

I read this thinking the two stories were going to tie together somehow with old dude seeing the flirting and exploding.  My friends told me of a mutual acquaintance who melted down when she saw them kissing.  I guess she didn't know about them, and her reaction was - get this - alternately crying and laughing.   I guess her world split in two there....

----

First flag in your post "One of the bartenders I see a lot "  ... is your drinking ok ?  I am 99% sober these days (I had a beer on Thursday that was already poured for me) so I don't want to be one of those people but take care.

Second flag is that you are still getting a lot of action for a small down gal with limited prospects, so good for you.

For the old dude, maybe you haven't had to deal with this before.  If not, then you have to start developing some tools to deal with this type of thing.  I suspect you are valued by your boss.  I would go to him/her and find some kind of way to get them on your side with respect to things impacting you.  You need to take this situation as a challenge to learn some new social tools in the workplace, IMO.  What are your boss' motivations ?  Use those as leverage to explain why your work environment is now going to cause you to not meet your boss' goals.  My unasked for 2 cents...

As for the second person, it sounds like 100% come-ons to me but maybe women act like this with each other and not with men.  Not that I have been great with signs myself.... good luck...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 30, 2018, 08:13:03 am
If you don't end up having sex with this woman let me know so that I can come out and have sex with this woman.

Kidding aside,

You weren't kidding. 

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yeah it's tough reading signs sometimes, some people are naturally playful flirty, especially bartenders, i'd imagine it's x2 harder for non-heteros. I've misread women before, but as embarrassing as it is I don't have any regrets, I'd rather get embarrassed than miss an opportunity.  Maybe casually mention in convo about "my ex-gf did yadda yadda", see how she reacts.

I have been exasperated by my work mates who thing that bartenders and wait staff "really like them".  One of my friends even asked out and dated a checkout lady at his grocery store.  So, yes, there is that aspect that they are 'friendly' as part of their job.

But not actually touching.  That is a pretty big line to cross in my circles.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 30, 2018, 01:57:25 pm
I read this thinking the two stories were going to tie together somehow with old dude seeing the flirting and exploding.  My friends told me of a mutual acquaintance who melted down when she saw them kissing.  I guess she didn't know about them, and her reaction was - get this - alternately crying and laughing.   I guess her world split in two there....

I find this hilarious for some reason.

First flag in your post "One of the bartenders I see a lot "  ... is your drinking ok ?  I am 99% sober these days (I had a beer on Thursday that was already poured for me) so I don't want to be one of those people but take care.

Second flag is that you are still getting a lot of action for a small down gal with limited prospects, so good for you.

My drinking is frequent, but moderate. A couple of days each week I stop for a beer or two and some food after work. I have a handful of favorite bars and kind of alternate amongst them.  As for getting a lot of action... I'm actually not getting any action right now.  I fear I may turn into an angry incel.  :o

For the old dude, maybe you haven't had to deal with this before.  If not, then you have to start developing some tools to deal with this type of thing.  I suspect you are valued by your boss.  I would go to him/her and find some kind of way to get them on your side with respect to things impacting you.  You need to take this situation as a challenge to learn some new social tools in the workplace, IMO.  What are your boss' motivations ?  Use those as leverage to explain why your work environment is now going to cause you to not meet your boss' goals.  My unasked for 2 cents...

The new guy has known my boss and most of my co-workers for a very long time. They've been friends since the 1980s. So I would be on thin ice going to my boss to complain about him.

The second is that I don't have anything specific to complain about. I'm not sure how annoyed I'm actually should actually be.  I can't go to my boss and say "his jokes are stale" or "I have a vague sense that he doesn't respect me, even though he hasn't actually said anything concrete."    I think mostly my antipathy right now is just that I have to go through the whole process again... prove my value to yet another stranger. Probably over the upcoming days and weeks I will get accustomed to working with him, and get him accustomed to working with me and set boundaries and so on.  Many co-workers who rubbed me the wrong way at first became friends later. I have to assume that this will turn out the same.

Haven't been through anything like this before?  My whole life has been like this. 


As for the second person, it sounds like 100% come-ons to me but maybe women act like this with each other and not with men.  Not that I have been great with signs myself.... good luck...

This gives me hope. I will see how things go.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 30, 2018, 02:16:36 pm
I find this hilarious for some reason.

So did I, but the people who were there were kind of shocked to see her mental software producing this result.  Clearly she didn't think gayness was real or hadn't seen it... not sure.

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My drinking is frequent, but moderate. A couple of days each week I stop for a beer or two and some food after work. I have a handful of favorite bars and kind of alternate amongst them.  As for getting a lot of action... I'm actually not getting any action right now.  I fear I may turn into an angry incel.  :o

I know lots of single ladies who go years without any leads... let alone action.  They're usually older than you but sometimes not.

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The new guy has known my boss and most of my co-workers for a very long time. They've been friends since the 1980s. So I would be on thin ice going to my boss to complain about him.

Shit.  can you wear ear buds at work ?  Find some way to avoid him ?  Go to the basement and do inventory ?  Get a headset and be on 'phone calls' a lot...

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The second is that I don't have anything specific to complain about. I'm not sure how annoyed I'm actually should actually be.  I can't go to my boss and say "his jokes are stale" or "I have a vague sense that he doesn't respect me, even though he hasn't actually said anything concrete."    I think mostly my antipathy right now is just that I have to go through the whole process again... prove my value to yet another stranger. Probably over the upcoming days and weeks I will get accustomed to working with him, and get him accustomed to working with me and set boundaries and so on.  Many co-workers who rubbed me the wrong way at first became friends later. I have to assume that this will turn out the same.

OK Well that's a plan.

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Haven't been through anything like this before?  My whole life has been like this. 
 

It seems I mistook your post as asking for advice rather than just venting.  You have a plan, so you know what to do.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 01, 2018, 09:51:21 am
It seems I mistook your post as asking for advice rather than just venting.  You have a plan, so you know what to do.

It was mostly just venting.  But just writing it down and expressing it helped give me some perspective on the issue.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on October 01, 2018, 10:09:17 am
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The second is that I don't have anything specific to complain about. I'm not sure how annoyed I'm actually should actually be.  I can't go to my boss and say "his jokes are stale" or "I have a vague sense that he doesn't respect me, even though he hasn't actually said anything concrete."

Those kind of men are dinosaurs in the workplace.  Hopefully they go extinct soon.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 01, 2018, 06:56:40 pm
Those kind of men are dinosaurs in the workplace.  Hopefully they go extinct soon.

I'm 20+ years older than anyone in my department.  I attribute this to my need for continuous punishment and not finding an easier career.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 02, 2018, 01:11:37 am
"Good morning, young lady!"

 ...

"Whatcha working on?"
(brief summary of my task list)
"The correct answer was: 'same shit, different day.'  HA! HA!"
(blank look)



STALE

...

"I can't connect to the network. Why can't I connect to the network?"

...

"I can't connect to the network printer. Why can't I connect to the network printer?"

...

(cheerful whistling.)

...

(cell phone, ringing away on desk, unattended.)

...

"Is the wifi down? I can't connect to the wifi. Did somebody forget to pay the electrical bill?"

...

"OH HI, HONEY!  I'm here at work! WORKING! That's right! ... Yeah! Remember Tom? I talked to Tom today! He said I should have stayed retired! HA! HA!"



 OLD PEOPLE

...

I feel like there must be a tired office humor bingo card that I should have at my desk. If he says "Working hard, or hardly working?" or "Is this a safety meeting? Nobody moves, nobody gets hurt?" I am going to throw my arms in the air and shout "BINGO!!!"


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 02, 2018, 05:56:11 am
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Is this a safety meeting? Nobody moves, nobody gets hurt?"

That's a new one.

Yesterday one of my workmates said he wanted just me to talk in our meetings because I'm "interesting".  It's a compliment but this is really the young'ns need for war stories.  I worked with generation 1 of IT people.  I worked with punch cards.  That's what they want.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 02, 2018, 06:38:40 am
Get in shape now. Do lots of core strengthening. Toddlers are hard and you're going to need stamina, old man.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 02, 2018, 06:46:18 am
Get in shape now. Do lots of core strengthening. Toddlers are hard and you're going to need stamina, old man.

I hear you, but there are two of us.  I will be returning to the gym after the baby but I have excellent energy for my age.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 02, 2018, 09:43:47 am
That's a new one.

No.  It's not.

Yesterday one of my workmates said he wanted just me to talk in our meetings because I'm "interesting".  It's a compliment but this is really the young'ns need for war stories.  I worked with generation 1 of IT people.  I worked with punch cards.  That's what they want.

Yikes! You ARE old!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on October 03, 2018, 01:27:52 am
I've been off work for a year and a half other than a couple of small clients.  The pregnancy wasn't easy and then I've been home with baby.

I threw my resume out to four places and landed three.  First one didn't really interest me but the other two are really F-ING amazing.  Two completely different industries and  two different aspects of accounting. 

Neither of them gets to ride helicopters though no matter how much CPA Canada may portray that in their commercials.

I'm so excited.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on October 03, 2018, 01:33:42 am
Granddaughter is now homeless, has a bed in an emergency shelter, but wanders during the day in a town where she doesn't know anyone.  Some of this is a result of her own choices, and some is the result of things she has no control over.   It just breaks my heart.

Oh no, dia, I'm so sorry to hear that!   :'(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on October 03, 2018, 01:34:56 am
With baby 6 weeks away [...]


Ha, looks like our babies are gonna have very close birthdays.  Mine's gonna be 1 in about 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 03, 2018, 06:53:42 am
I've been off work for a year and a half other than a couple of small clients.  The pregnancy wasn't easy and then I've been home with baby.

I threw my resume out to four places and landed three.  First one didn't really interest me but the other two are really F-ING amazing.  Two completely different industries and  two different aspects of accounting. 

Neither of them gets to ride helicopters though no matter how much CPA Canada may portray that in their commercials.

I'm so excited.

Wow - back to work so soon ?  What about the 1 year old ?   Are you gonna take 'em with you in your chopper ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 03, 2018, 07:57:22 am

I threw my resume out to four places and landed three.  First one didn't really interest me but the other two are really F-ING amazing.  Two completely different industries and  two different aspects of accounting. 

Neither of them gets to ride helicopters though no matter how much CPA Canada may portray that in their commercials.

I'm so excited.

I am happy for you, having a job that you are excited about is awesome.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 03, 2018, 01:11:12 pm
Neither of them gets to ride helicopters though no matter how much CPA Canada may portray that in their commercials.

Do you at least get to wear a cape?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 03, 2018, 11:46:36 pm
I'm surprised to hear that the CPA lifestyle isn't as action-packed as the commercials make it seem.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 04, 2018, 06:36:03 am
Ok - what are your work environments like ?

I am with about 12 people in a large, bright, quiet open area... 80s office cubicle decor but we are seated at two looong tables with lots of space.  26th floor with nice view of uptown...  I spend most of my time listening to music on Sirius XM and almost no time on here.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on October 05, 2018, 10:08:50 pm
Wow - back to work so soon ?  What about the 1 year old ?   Are you gonna take 'em with you in your chopper ?

Haha. 

She's going to a really nice daycare, but it'll be short days.  I only applied to part time jobs and I'll be dropping her off late and and my husband starts work ridiculously early so he's done by early afternoon.

I love her so much and I feel like a jerk saying this, but mat-leave isn't easy.  What the working partner usually doesn't understand is that in some ways it's easier to go to work.  It's pretty isolating staying home with a baby for a year.  I miss grownups.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 06, 2018, 01:57:50 am
Ok - what are your work environments like ?

I am with about 12 people in a large, bright, quiet open area... 80s office cubicle decor but we are seated at two looong tables with lots of space.  26th floor with nice view of uptown...  I spend most of my time listening to music on Sirius XM and almost no time on here.

My cubicle has a majestic view of Kim City's "hobos and auto-parts" district.

The back half of our office has a small production floor, where my happy little minions are hard at work assembling our wonderful products.  They're not literally those little yellow one-eyed fucks from the Disney movie, but that's how I visualize them as I interact with them. It's one of those little techniques I've picked up to develop confidence.  Kind of like imagining your audience naked when you're doing public speaking.

The front half of the office is management, sales, applications engineering. I have come to think of this as the stale male area. We have cubicle dividers, but it's somewhat open.  Depending who is working from home or whatever, there are typically five or six of the males in the office, ranging in staleness from "not really" to "extremely." Most of them are okay and sometimes even fun to work with.  However, sometimes there are some very loud and boring conversations about work-related issues that go on forever and make me want to shoot myself. The new guy in particular is intent on questioning every single procedure. "Why do you do that this way?"  "We do that this way because it is efficient and works well." "Well at my old place we used to do this that way, and I think we should do that here as well because of reasons." "But we already do that this way, and we don't want to revise our process." "But I did this that way for 40 years, and it works very well and I think that we should do this that way here as well."

And at the nexus of these two areas is the Kim Zone, which is sort of the all-important hub that keeps everything linked together and functioning as a cohesive unit.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 06, 2018, 07:44:45 am
So I found out that my company has been intentionally vague about parental leave for fathers for a reason: there is none.  Joan doesn't care about things like that normally but she is hormonal now and cries for no reason, or gets angry for no reason, and gets angry if there is a reason so she got angry.  I am trying to explain to her that my taking a job that pays $40K less still makes sense for reasons, but I didn't put a lot of time into the discussion as she was pissed off.

One thing I know is that I do not want to have debt over my head.  We are debt free and saving money, and have enough for a down payment as well as a healthy nest egg for pension.  We have never been a "keeping up with the Joneses" type couple, so I want to redouble my efforts to explain why keeping this job is a good idea for now.

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I think if I had to go to work in a smallish company I would flip out.  The story of the guy saying "we did it this way at my old company" drives me crazy both ways: either his criticism is apt, which I doubt, and there are obvious improvements and that happens.... OR... it doesn't make any difference and he should shut up and work. 

I get this look on my face when people suggest shitty options for managing things, and people recognize it and start stammering.  Even though it's a natural asset, it's possibly my greatest one. 

--------------

Here's a story.  I'll try to making it unboring and brief as possible but I don't think I will succeed:


Most of my job consists in trying to mind-meld with technical guys who are having problems that they can barely express in any language... and figure out if I can help them, or who I have to alert or escalate to.

The way it works at my business, metaphorically, is that my group builds the foundation for some work... and an internal group (we call them internal customers) put a building on the foundation.  They just brought in a new manager for the internal customers, and he seems very slick, very talky, well-dressed but incompetent.  His first move was to call for a weekly 1.5 hour meeting with me and my three technical leads EVERY Monday to "coordinate" between the groups.

Now, the thing is that yes - SOME coordination is necessary.... MAYBE.  To continue with the metaphor of building: we say we are preparing the concrete for the pouring foundation on Feb 1, and we have explained that it will be this long and this wide, and the internal customers can build your building on it 3 days after the pour, for the concrete to dry. 

So, for coordination... maybe their engineers may come back and need to meet with us occasionally with questions we didn't anticipate like "what kind of concrete is it ?" "you said it could hold this weight but what about temperature fluctuation" "what if we need to poke some iron beams into it as it dries" etc.  Unanticipated things and new questions that come up.  So, yes, maybe.  But NOT 1.5 hours EVERY MONDAY with Five of us.  That's 7.5 man-hours or one day.

But... fine... the new incompetent guy is new so maybe we can just do it a few times then he'll figure out after awhile that we are wasting time with those meetings and drop them to monthly or whatever.  With that in mind, and generally trying to work with him, we met the last two Mondays to "coordinate" BUT the meetings were all about their internal planning, with my most productive team members just sitting there listening.  Our stuff barely came up, and when it did they just asked us about our promised delivery dates which are already published and known.  It was a good thing my guys brought their laptops and were tapping away the whole time.

So it made zero sense to meet and most people at this level know better than to call useless meetings, but there's more: we had to listen to him talking to his own guys in the room, and he was clearly f***cking up: assigning tasks to people and setting due dates without discussing dependencies, work flow, or how long the tasks would take.   His people didn't really seem to be buying in to his plan.

AND THAT is bad enough, but there's even more: later in the week he sends us a bunch of dates we're now supposed to meet, that we never heard of before.  As in "prior to February 1, we will need XYZ done by mid-November in order to provide ... yada yada yada".  We don't know where he got his required dates from, and he never communicated those needs to us IN THE MEETINGS HE SPECIFICALLY SET UP to discuss such things!

I know that this kind of thing happens sometimes, but we are supposed to be more careful with peoples' time than this.  I was livid, but got talked down by the lady who is managing the relationship between the groups.  So, instead of making a stink, we got them to publish that the dates they are promising for THEIR items are tentative.  And also - my group won't be promising anything those dates.  Basically he has promised something that he can't deliver in any way but covering his ass by writing the word 'tentative' on the promise.  Just ridiculous.

My relationship manager lady will be escalating this to people on our side, telling our VP what they're doing and stating that their approach is just dumb.  They're promising things to their people that are dependent on dates from us - dates that we aren't promising.

All of this noise caused an extra 2 hours of meetings on my back this week beyond the 1.5.   >:(  As I told my relationship manager lady, I can do 60 one-minute tasks in an hour, such as updating a task board with important details, or sending one of the dozens of emails I send to Microsoft or other vendors daily to get them to escalate something they're dragging on.  3.5 hours wasted in a week of 37.5 hours is not ok.

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Don't know if this is of interest, but I put some effort into it anyway, in case anybody is interested.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 06, 2018, 09:04:34 am
I'm in a team of four, within a larger team of about 20 people.  Our small team used to work in an area with four small work areas enclosed by cubicle walls; it was noisy and distracting.  People hated it, and it was part of the reason for high turnover in the last few years.  But earlier this year I led the reconfiguration of that space and now we have tiny but private cubicles with natural light, which we didn't have before.  It's a bit tight, but an improvement over the previous arrangement. 

The biggest issue we have is a two-year backlog due to a doubling of workload a few years ago, and another doubling just this year, and high turnover due to low pay which isn't enough to compensate for the stress related to the high volume of work, unhappy clients and the physical work space.   The employer has been hard to persuade that more staff and better pay would go a long way to meeting their (claimed) #1 goal of customer service, so we spend lots of time letting people know that there is still a backlog.  We are a taxpayer funded organization, but we also generate revenue and the backlog means that we are losing that revenue.  (To give my manager her due, she has worked extremely hard to get another permanent person, and she's finally been successful so we will be getting an extra pair of hands.   She's also been able to finagle temporary staff, but each time we get a new temp, there is months of training needed so it's a mixed blessing.)

In the private sector, this situation would have been remedied long ago, through more staff and a wage that reflected the requirements and workload of this position.   Given that there is about a year of training needed to know the basics, and another year to learn the more complex stuff, high turnover has been a significant factor in the situation we have today.   

But on the plus side for our customers, BC has among the lowest rates for personal income tax, no doubt helped by the previous government's cost slashing through elimination of jobs, resulting in the smallest public sector in Canada.  Tax reductions do have trade-offs, and for us and the public that we serve, it's a two-year wait for a service that should take 3 to 6 months.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 06, 2018, 12:14:40 pm
I don't understand why a long wait time like that is even acceptable.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 06, 2018, 03:43:07 pm
His first move was to call for a weekly 1.5 hour meeting with me and my three technical leads EVERY Monday to "coordinate" between the groups.

I don't think the idea of a regular meeting is the problem, it is holding it for 1.5 hours. If that is simply to reserve that time on everyone's calendar that is one thing, but to need to fill the time because it is there is a problem. If things are well run, which includes ensuring punctuality from everyone, then the meeting could be over with quickly most times. While there are some benefits to meeting in person, weekly would be far too often with today's technology as most of those meetings could be conference calls (eg. skype). When a topic comes up that involves half or less of the people present, then that should be taken offline quickly.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 06, 2018, 03:58:24 pm
1. I don't think the idea of a regular meeting is the problem, it is holding it for 1.5 hours.
2. If things are well run, which includes ensuring punctuality from everyone, then the meeting could be over with quickly most times.
3. While there are some benefits to meeting in person, .
1. If we were using the time productively then ok.  But as per my story we're not.  If I had 5 minutes to waste during the day then I would come on here more often.
2. Yes, except the discussions often lead to side discussions.  It's hard to moderate those.
3. We do meet offline whenever we can.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on October 10, 2018, 12:08:00 pm
So I found out that my company has been intentionally vague about parental leave for fathers for a reason: there is none.
I thought Ontario required it.....

Oh right. Doug Ford tore up the labour laws.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 10, 2018, 12:36:32 pm
I'm taking about Top-Up.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 10, 2018, 02:02:20 pm
Apparently, paternity leave is coming next year by the Feds.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parental-ei-leave-benefit-march-2019-1.4839097
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 10, 2018, 07:28:23 pm
Nice.  I just missed it :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 11, 2018, 05:47:19 am

But on the plus side for our customers, BC has among the lowest rates for personal income tax, no doubt helped by the previous government's cost slashing through elimination of jobs, resulting in the smallest public sector in Canada.  Tax reductions do have trade-offs, and for us and the public that we serve, it's a two-year wait for a service that should take 3 to 6 months.

I still don't get why a 2 year wait is ok ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 11, 2018, 08:39:53 am
I still don't get why a 2 year wait is ok ?

It isn't "ok", but its more "ok" than spending tax dollars on more staff, as far as I can see.   There are other ways we could create better efficiencies that would help, but the primary issue is simply too many files that need to be processed for the people available and trained.

The situation only affects about 900 people/lower level governments/businesses at any given time and most of them wait, under protest. Those who do escalate to a minister tend to get prioritized to the best of our ability, especially job and revenue-producing clients.  But at least the wait in our Ministry isn't life threatening for people, though people are often concerned about their ability to carry on their business. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 11, 2018, 09:37:25 am
I just don't understand how it doesn't change.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 11, 2018, 10:03:07 am
I just don't understand how it doesn't change.

Me neither.  I suppose if everyone affected contacted their minister, it would change.  Maybe. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on October 16, 2018, 10:23:17 am
A friend of mine from Fort Mac posted this article today from the latest issue of YMM Magazine.  It's an article about the problem in Fort Mac of taxi drivers taking women down Tower Road and raping/robbing them.  For those who don't believe it's pretty damn bad up there.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 16, 2018, 02:19:59 pm
A friend of mine from Fort Mac posted this article today from the latest issue of YMM Magazine.  It's an article about the problem in Fort Mac of taxi drivers taking women down Tower Road and raping/robbing them.  For those who don't believe it's pretty damn bad up there.

Aren't cabs dispatched by a central dispatcher?  Doesn't the dispatcher log time, location and (usually) name?  Wouldn't a cab driver who assaulted or robbed someone be pretty easy to track down through the central dispatch?   How do they get away with it multiple times?  I really am curious.

The article seems like a plug for Uber, which I think would be even more risky given that you are directly contacting a stranger rather than going through a dispatcher and there have been rapes and assaults involving Uber drivers.  I am not sure what safety
 protocols Uber has, so is there something that would make them safer than a taxi service?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 16, 2018, 02:28:51 pm
Aren't cabs dispatched by a central dispatcher?  Doesn't the dispatcher log time, location and (usually) name? 

Certainly if the cab was scheduled to make a pickup then yes, but it is also common to hail down cabs. Yes, they are "required" to check in with the dispatcher and record their fare but if they don't then there would be no record. Often cabbies try to scam the system, both to get unrecorded revenue and also if it is a short fare they don't want to miss out on their sequence in the queue.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 16, 2018, 02:34:55 pm
Certainly if the cab was scheduled to make a pickup then yes, but it is also common to hail down cabs. Yes, they are "required" to check in with the dispatcher and record their fare but if they don't then there would be no record. Often cabbies try to scam the system, both to get unrecorded revenue and also if it is a short fare they don't want to miss out on their sequence in the queue.

Good point.  I looked for news stories about women/anyone being assaulted or robbed by a cab driver in Fort Mac to see what other details there were, but didn't find anything.  Means nothing though, since not every crime makes the news although I would have thought several similar crimes might have merited a mention.

Any insight on the safety of Uber rides?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on October 16, 2018, 04:36:00 pm
Good point.  I looked for news stories about women/anyone being assaulted or robbed by a cab driver in Fort Mac to see what other details there were, but didn't find anything.  Means nothing though, since not every crime makes the news although I would have thought several similar crimes might have merited a mention.

Any insight on the safety of Uber rides?

I have my opinion on why this issue is pretty much ignored by everyone in Fort Mac except for by women.

All I know is the first thing I was told when I moved up there was to NOT take taxis unless I had found a reliable driver that wasn't going to rape me.  Women up there find a decent taxi driver, get a card from him and you only call that driver when you need a ride.

The last few years I was up there, I had a renter who was a cabbie and I used him all the time.  I gave his card out to the young ladies I went to school with and he told me one time that me and my freinds were a large chunk of his business.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 17, 2018, 09:34:22 am
Arriving for work yesterday...

Old Economy Steve: "Did you get your homework finished?"

Me: (blank look)

Old Economy Steve: "The teacher will be mad if you didn't bring your homework!"

Me:  (blink.  blink.)

Old Economy Steve: "HA!  HA!"

I ignored him and wandered off.  I literally don't even know the fuck what he was on about.  Is he poking fun at me for being 30 years younger than him?  Is this the onset of senility?  I have no idea what the fuck that was, aside from vaguely creepy.


Later on I heard him say "she's pretty stand-offish..." which I don't even know was in reference to me but I am assuming it was because I am now somewhat stressed about this.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 17, 2018, 09:19:57 pm
Maybe pretend to be socially awkward ?  Go to him and say "sorry about that thing earlier but my XYZ was XYZ yesterday " ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 17, 2018, 09:31:33 pm
Arriving for work yesterday...

Old Economy Steve: "Did you get your homework finished?"

Me: (blank look)

Old Economy Steve: "The teacher will be mad if you didn't bring your homework!"

Me:  (blink.  blink.)

Old Economy Steve: "HA!  HA!"

I ignored him and wandered off.  I literally don't even know the fuck what he was on about.  Is he poking fun at me for being 30 years younger than him?  Is this the onset of senility?  I have no idea what the fuck that was, aside from vaguely creepy.


Later on I heard him say "she's pretty stand-offish..." which I don't even know was in reference to me but I am assuming it was because I am now somewhat stressed about this.


 -k

More than vaguely creepy and that's coming from an "old economy" guy.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 17, 2018, 09:32:37 pm
Creepy but it doesn't seem like he's making a play or anything, from the text. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 18, 2018, 12:12:01 am
Maybe pretend to be socially awkward ?  Go to him and say "sorry about that thing earlier but my XYZ was XYZ yesterday " ?

I don't feel inclined to do anything to cover up for his weird behavior.  If I do anything to accept blame for the awkward interaction I feel like I'd just be inviting more.

More than vaguely creepy and that's coming from an "old economy" guy.

But you're an airline pilot, so you're much cooler than normal "old economy" guys. :)

Something about the whole interaction just felt very strange and off-putting.

Creepy but it doesn't seem like he's making a play or anything, from the text. 

I don't think he was trying to hit on me or anything like that.  I just don't get where it was coming from.  Like, the dude is talking to me as if I'm a school age child, so that's somewhat insulting already.    Is he just making light of me being much younger than most of the others in the office?  Is there something more sinister? Is he picturing me in a little plaid skirt? Is he imagining telling me to stay after school for a "special detention"?   I really don't know.  I'm just not sure what to make of this.

I do know that if he does say anything about plaid skirts or detentions or corporal punishment, I will kung-pow his head right off his body.   It will be the kind of violence you would normally only see in Japanese animation. Like, One Punch Man, Fist Of The North Star type violent. I will go Super-Saiyan on him. 


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 18, 2018, 06:44:31 am
I don't feel inclined to do anything to cover up for his weird behavior.  If I do anything to accept blame for the awkward interaction I feel like I'd just be inviting more.


Well that's true.  Why play games, I guess...

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But you're an airline pilot, so you're much cooler than normal "old economy" guys. :)

Huh ?  Oh... you're quoting other people in here too...

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Something about the whole interaction just felt very strange and off-putting.

Maybe he's trying a new tactic to get you on his side.  Since his "way" is so alien to you, you didn't pick up on the motivation and it seemed weird ?


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I don't think he was trying to hit on me or anything like that.  I just don't get where it was coming from.  Like, the dude is talking to me as if I'm a school age child, so that's somewhat insulting already.    Is he just making light of me being much younger than most of the others in the office?  Is there something more sinister? Is he picturing me in a little plaid skirt? Is he imagining telling me to stay after school for a "special detention"?   I really don't know.  I'm just not sure what to make of this.

The last few suggestions would be a 'hit on' thing.  It sounds like he desperately wants to be liked.  And you do not like him.

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I do know that if he does say anything about plaid skirts or detentions or corporal punishment, I will kung-pow his head right off his body.   It will be the kind of violence you would normally only see in Japanese animation. Like, One Punch Man, Fist Of The North Star type violent. I will go Super-Saiyan on him. 
 

Or just quote some Anime to him and look at the confused look on his face.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 18, 2018, 09:33:33 am
Maybe he's trying a new tactic to get you on his side.  Since his "way" is so alien to you, you didn't pick up on the motivation and it seemed weird ?

I have a sense that this was just another in his series of attempts at witty banter, and he's just oblivious as to how lame they are.

The last few suggestions would be a 'hit on' thing. 

Comments can have a sexual tint to them without being a pick-up attempt.  In this case I think it was just trivializing and dismissive, without being sexual on top of that.


It sounds like he desperately wants to be liked.  And you do not like him.

I hadn't considered this.

I have been feeling like the ousider... he's known many of my co-workers for ages, and I have been feeling insecure all over again.  It hadn't occurred to me that maybe he's feeling insecure as well.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 18, 2018, 09:42:32 am
I am curious so I looked agile workspaces up.   This article provided a broad overview of pros and cons. https://www.zenefits.com/blog/agile-workspace-small-businesses/

 An article from Harvard Business Review about how to foster employee enthusiasm for the type of workspace.  From your comments so far, it sounds like your company could have done better.
https://hbr.org/2018/01/sgc-research-when-moving-to-an-open-office-plan-pay-attention-to-how-your-employees-feel
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 18, 2018, 10:10:01 am
I am curious so I looked agile workspaces up.   This article provided a broad overview of pros and cons. https://www.zenefits.com/blog/agile-workspace-small-businesses/

 An article from Harvard Business Review about how to foster employee enthusiasm for the type of workspace.  From your comments so far, it sounds like your company could have done better.
https://hbr.org/2018/01/sgc-research-when-moving-to-an-open-office-plan-pay-attention-to-how-your-employees-feel

Wrong topic....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 18, 2018, 10:40:11 am
Wrong topic....

Oops.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 18, 2018, 12:11:47 pm

But you're an airline pilot, so you're much cooler than normal "old economy" guys. :)

Something about the whole interaction just felt very strange and off-putting.


 -k

I've never been accused of being cool before but I kind of like it. ;D


I've never had an office job so I can't relate. Before I flew em I fixed em and in a predominately male world so good natured ribbing and practical jokes were an enjoyable part of the job. With larger companies I spent my life working with different people every day but we still had to work as a team doing things exactly the same way, basically as interchangeable parts of a bigger machine. Any relationships with fellow workers were pretty superficial unless they were pursued outside of the job.

I would find it a strange way for for a fellow worker to act unless it was part of a relationship we had developed over time. Throwing insults back and forth can be a lot of fun but that is something you do with people you know and respect. It isn't mean spirited. My maintenance and smaller company days were a lot like that. Maybe you should fire the odd broadside back in a good humoured manner and see how he reacts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 18, 2018, 05:47:44 pm
I don't think he was trying to hit on me or anything like that.  I just don't get where it was coming from.  Like, the dude is talking to me as if I'm a school age child, so that's somewhat insulting already.    Is he just making light of me being much younger than most of the others in the office?  Is there something more sinister? Is he picturing me in a little plaid skirt? Is he imagining telling me to stay after school for a "special detention"?   I really don't know.  I'm just not sure what to make of this.

30 is a lot. If he didn't have kids, maybe he was trying to figure a way to relate to you? When I was working, I was in an office with a lot of girls, most of whom were twenty years younger than I was. There's an old philosophy of male/female interaction which says men can treat women in one of three ways; potential dating material, maternal types (older women, aunts, mothers) or sisters. I chose the last for obvious reasons. And several of the women I met back then, going on eighteen years ago, are still kind of like my sisters. But in most cases it was me who interacted with them initially. In at least two cases, they thought I was weird at first (they have since confessed). They weren't really used to interacting with people my age either, except as parental figures, teachers or bosses.  And they sort of expected me to act very stern, and official and businesslike, rather than joking around or teasing them.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 18, 2018, 05:51:40 pm
I would find it a strange way for for a fellow worker to act unless it was part of a relationship we had developed over time. Throwing insults back and forth can be a lot of fun but that is something you do with people you know and respect. It isn't mean spirited. My maintenance and smaller company days were a lot like that. Maybe you should fire the odd broadside back in a good humoured manner and see how he reacts.

Depends on the atmosphere. I remember sitting in on some job interviews where I asked people how they felt about having a double fistful of elastic bands tossed over their cubicle wall onto their heads just to see their reaction. We were that kind of office.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 18, 2018, 05:56:36 pm
So ankles can support a lot of weight but they don't like being shifted into odd positions. Not sure if mine is sprained or broken, but I'm leaning to the former. The vote is 4-1 for sprained (was 4-2 but I convinced one), but the remaining 1 is a cautious type. And it's easy for her to say 'you should go to ER and have that X-rayed'. She doesn't have to spend hours in a waiting room.

Had to crawl back to the porch, despite someone there who tried to help me stand, then hop up the stairs.  Now icing it and have a compression bandage and hoping I an avoid doctors.

I really wish I had a robot body, though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 18, 2018, 06:13:19 pm
Not sure if mine is sprained or broken

If it hurts to touch, is the pain in the soft part or the bone?
Did you hear anything when you hurt it?
Other than swelling, do you see any other misshaping of your ankle?
Is there any numbness or tingling, or just pain?

Hopefully it is a sprain, to avoid the hospital visit.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 18, 2018, 06:31:45 pm
I had a severe penile laceration and a sprained wrist this summer. Guess which one hurt more.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 18, 2018, 06:44:19 pm
If it hurts to touch, is the pain in the soft part or the bone?
Did you hear anything when you hurt it?
Other than swelling, do you see any other misshaping of your ankle?
Is there any numbness or tingling, or just pain?

Hopefully it is a sprain, to avoid the hospital visit.

No, it doesn't hurt to touch. Anywhere. No numbness or tingling, and as long as I don't move it around too much ... I can move it around, and wiggle my toes. And now, after several hours, I can (gingerly) put weight on that foot, and even stand and limp - a bit. Yeah I  did hear a crackling at the time, which is not a good sign. But I don't think I'd be able to put my weight on it at all if it was broken.

There no urgent care clinics anywhere near us, and no walk-in clinics (thanks government!). So anything remotely urgent means going downtown, or near enough downtown, to the hospital. Another reason to be unimpressed by our health care system.

The irony is there is a privately operated X-ray clinic two blocks away. But you have to get a doctor's order to use it so I'll have to make an appointment, drive half an hour (or be driven) to my doctor, for a piece of paper I can then come home with and take to the clinic. I hate inefficiency like that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 18, 2018, 06:58:29 pm
Yeah I  did hear a crackling at the time, which is not a good sign.

Tendons and ligaments can also make noise when stressed, but generally you are right that it is not a good sign.

I thought Ottawa would have good walk-in clinics. The last time I lived in a larger center in Ontario, we had a very good walk-in clinic a few blocks away that had x-ray on the premises. My current rural Ontario address does send me 60+km to the hospital, so the last time I had anything I self diagnosed and prescribed over the counter polysporin for an eye infection. Haven't had any need at my Montreal address since I moved here part time about 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 18, 2018, 07:16:47 pm
Tendons and ligaments can also make noise when stressed, but generally you are right that it is not a good sign.

That's what almost convinced me to go. If I hadn't tested and found that my foot would now bear my weight without much pain I would have gone in - and still be sitting in the waiting room now.

Quote
I thought Ottawa would have good walk-in clinics.

It used to. I used to use them all the time. You could go into one and usually not wait more than 15 minutes. The one near where I used to live was also upstairs from an x-ray clinic and lab. Sometime after I got my own doctor things started going downhill. Now almost all the clinics require that you make an appointment, and most require you be a patient of one of the doctors on staff. There are a couple of clinics very close to me, but when I called, after moving down here I was told they weren't for walk-ins, and weren't taking new patients and their wait-list was full. Should they even call themselves clinics then? There are also almost no outcall services, so forget about getting a doctor to your house, even if you want to pay.

The after-hours clinic my doctor's office referred me to is on the other side of the city, an hour or more away.

By comparison, several dental clinics have opened up nearby (it's a growing area). All are taking new patients. It's never hard getting a dental appointment or finding someone to do dental surgery fairly quickly.

As long as you can pay.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 18, 2018, 07:43:22 pm
They had me out of the waiting room and in a doctor's office in literally less than a minute. I had a morphine drip, a very sympathetic nurse, and a doctor within 20 minutes, and a Russian urologist was brought in in less than 2 hours to make me whole again. I don't think he came all the way from Russia though. Altogether it was a very efficient, professional system. My sprained wrist still hurts like a bitch though. There's nothing you can do about that but suck it up and heal.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 18, 2018, 08:20:39 pm

I have been feeling like the ousider... he's known many of my co-workers for ages, and I have been feeling insecure all over again.  It hadn't occurred to me that maybe he's feeling insecure as well.
 

Everything you write about him... he's telling jokes and acting weird... sounds like he is needy.  I don't see him so I am basing it on the facts I read here only.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 18, 2018, 08:21:43 pm
I am curious so I looked agile workspaces up.   This article provided a broad overview of pros and cons. https://www.zenefits.com/blog/agile-workspace-small-businesses/

 An article from Harvard Business Review about how to foster employee enthusiasm for the type of workspace.  From your comments so far, it sounds like your company could have done better.
https://hbr.org/2018/01/sgc-research-when-moving-to-an-open-office-plan-pay-attention-to-how-your-employees-feel

It's on another thread but I will look at this.  'Agile Work Space' isn't a thing though. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 18, 2018, 08:24:10 pm
Get Well SJArgus....

Don't take advantage of your time off to out-post me on here... although my work busy time and coming baby busy time mean forum time is dwindling.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 18, 2018, 08:24:46 pm
Maybe the irony is that my time on forums will wind down with me voting for a conservative for the first time ever...  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 19, 2018, 12:21:25 am
Depends on the atmosphere. I remember sitting in on some job interviews where I asked people how they felt about having a double fistful of elastic bands tossed over their cubicle wall onto their heads just to see their reaction. We were that kind of office.

Sounds like a company where I might want to work.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 19, 2018, 05:28:40 am
I had a severe penile laceration and a sprained wrist this summer. Guess which one hurt more.

 ???  Not to make light, but ... I guess the question hangs in the air of how ...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 19, 2018, 05:31:17 am
I am curious so I looked agile workspaces up.   This article provided a broad overview of pros and cons. https://www.zenefits.com/blog/agile-workspace-small-businesses/

 An article from Harvard Business Review about how to foster employee enthusiasm for the type of workspace.  From your comments so far, it sounds like your company could have done better.
https://hbr.org/2018/01/sgc-research-when-moving-to-an-open-office-plan-pay-attention-to-how-your-employees-feel

"an agile office also operates on tenets that workers need both open, collaborative time with coworkers as well as quiet, more private areas to individually focus on and execute projects."

Actually that sums it up, and the zenefits article was pretty concise.  The dumb part is that 'agile' is not to be confused with 'Agile', which is a new practice and maybe even the 20-years-later iteration of Japan's Total Quality Management style, and something I am excited about.  But they have common elements.

The new space I'm moving into at work is 'agile' but doesn't fit with 'Agile' practices.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2018, 08:05:40 am
???  Not to make light, but ... I guess the question hangs in the air of how ...
Horrible bike accident where I landed well but the force of landing essentially tore it half off.
It was a trick question about which hurt more. The sprained wrist still hurts but the pain between injuries was incomparable. Full-out loss of consciousness pain, which I didn't think was possible.
The nurse was very nice though. She even called me "sweetheart" and " love" while dressing my wound. I guess she knew it was safe that I wouldn't be trying to do anything with it for a while.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 19, 2018, 12:07:23 pm
Truly cringeworthy. Hope everything is back functioning properly.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2018, 12:31:11 pm
Yes, the urologist was excellent. Didn't make the many, many stitches hurt any less though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 19, 2018, 01:26:42 pm
Sounds like a company where I might want to work.

It was the best place I ever worked. Because we had an absentee manager and were left alone. Unfortunately, we mistakenly hired a term who was a drug user. When we moved to fire her she complained of harassment. Senior management ran away as far and fast as they could, and instead hired an outside firm to investigate. What they found was there was no harassment, and even if the things she claimed were true, that wasn't harassment. But at the same time they said we were acting immature, and violating multiple HR policies related to workplace conduct. She was fired. We got a zealous manager who reminded everyone of 'the pointy haired manager' on Dilbert (only female), and fun disappeared. Within a year everyone was gone, and that unit's effectiveness plummeted.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 19, 2018, 01:59:40 pm
???  Not to make light, but ... I guess the question hangs in the air of how ...

I assumed it was a joke about masturbation, actually...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2018, 02:11:37 pm
I have never, ever injured myself masturbating.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 19, 2018, 02:37:27 pm
Horrible bike accident...

I wish I could unread that story.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2018, 04:52:14 pm
Sorry. Be thankful I didn't share the photo I took while waiting for the specialist.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on October 19, 2018, 06:55:50 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 19, 2018, 06:59:27 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.

What do you like, my friend ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 19, 2018, 07:01:38 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.
You don't have a sprained ankle. And you didn't burn the thumb on your right hand while distracted by your ankle and don't have a burn blister on it...

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 19, 2018, 07:07:03 pm
I don't think that will work.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2018, 07:10:38 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.
I could show you the picture I took. Then you could at least be thankful you're not that asshole.
I suggest mushrooms, which always make you happy. It's the next frontier of legalization (and would actually even make more sense to legalize over cannibis). Don't get drunk though. Nothing worse than a sad drunk.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 19, 2018, 07:14:24 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.

Be happy that you don’t have a lacerated dick. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on October 19, 2018, 07:19:38 pm
Someone needs to cheer me up.

Relief from unhappiness is best remedied by regularly taking anti-depressants while completely ignoring any attempts at solving your problems.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 20, 2018, 06:19:59 am
Relief from unhappiness is best remedied by regularly taking anti-depressants while completely ignoring any attempts at solving your problems.

Seriously.  I know a lot of vain and self-focussed people.  Many of them regularly post that they are done putting up with vain and self-focussed people. 

Life in the world, I say.  It's easier  But you don't have to be 'depressed', except temporarily.  Since I quit smoking I have found my worst moods are boredom, frustration or anxiety - all temporary.  The exception is the pervasive terror that I will soon be responsible for a little human but it is mixed with a hopefulness and sense of purpose.

I am also convinced that I was born as I am... with the possible exception of my risk-averseness.  If I hadn't been so risk adverse I think I would have worked less in the corporate world and done more arts.  Of course my friends who did so had to rely on their parents helping them out, even into their 40s and 50s...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on October 20, 2018, 11:30:07 am
The exception is the pervasive terror that I will soon be responsible for a little human but it is mixed with a hopefulness and sense of purpose.

It's really not that difficult.  They pretty much bring themselves up if you don't overthink it.

Of course, you have cell phones and the internet to worry about, so who knows?

Well, I hope that helped...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 20, 2018, 12:12:22 pm
It's really not that difficult.  They pretty much bring themselves up if you don't overthink it.

Of course, you have cell phones and the internet to worry about, so who knows?

Well, I hope that helped...

Hey, long time no see! :D

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on October 20, 2018, 06:39:47 pm
Hey, long time no see! :D

 -k

Yeah, insanely busy summer.

Lots of OT though...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 20, 2018, 09:30:21 pm
Yeah, insanely busy summer.

Lots of OT though...

I wanted to make a joke about sailors here....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 20, 2018, 11:46:52 pm
Yes, the urologist was excellent. Didn't make the many, many stitches hurt any less though.

This all sounds extremely terrible and I'm sorry you went through it.  Hopefully you had some herbal medicine to help with the pain.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 21, 2018, 01:51:32 am
I've never been accused of being cool before but I kind of like it. ;D


I've never had an office job so I can't relate. Before I flew em I fixed em and in a predominately male world so good natured ribbing and practical jokes were an enjoyable part of the job. With larger companies I spent my life working with different people every day but we still had to work as a team doing things exactly the same way, basically as interchangeable parts of a bigger machine. Any relationships with fellow workers were pretty superficial unless they were pursued outside of the job.

I would find it a strange way for for a fellow worker to act unless it was part of a relationship we had developed over time. Throwing insults back and forth can be a lot of fun but that is something you do with people you know and respect. It isn't mean spirited. My maintenance and smaller company days were a lot like that. Maybe you should fire the odd broadside back in a good humoured manner and see how he reacts.
...
30 is a lot. If he didn't have kids, maybe he was trying to figure a way to relate to you? When I was working, I was in an office with a lot of girls, most of whom were twenty years younger than I was. There's an old philosophy of male/female interaction which says men can treat women in one of three ways; potential dating material, maternal types (older women, aunts, mothers) or sisters. I chose the last for obvious reasons. And several of the women I met back then, going on eighteen years ago, are still kind of like my sisters. But in most cases it was me who interacted with them initially. In at least two cases, they thought I was weird at first (they have since confessed). They weren't really used to interacting with people my age either, except as parental figures, teachers or bosses.  And they sort of expected me to act very stern, and official and businesslike, rather than joking around or teasing them.


I hope I haven't given the impression that I'm a no-fun co-worker.  I like my co-workers and we make each other laugh every day.  My issues with Old Economy Steve aren't that he's trying to have fun and tell jokes (except that he's so bad at it...)    My concern is that he seems to see me as a peon. Which I sort of am, but I'm not his peon and I won't let him treat me that way. I might be the one who buys office supplies and makes coffee and restarts the wifi when it's not working and all that stuff, but I do that stuff to help my co-workers, not because I'm a doormat.


Friday, Steve shows up in my cubicle and starts complaining about some templates that he didn't like the layout of. I told him I'd mention it to Greg, and didn't think any further of it.  Later that morning Steve shows up again and says  "Are you going to update those templates?"  and I said "Not unless Greg asks me to." And he wandered off without another word... but I have a hunch he wasn't happy.

I have a vague sense that he envisions himself as a boss around the office, but I know who I report to and he's not it.  I understand that he has been in the industry for a very long time and feels that his ideas should therefore be listened to, but my role isn't to listen to him.  If he wants the templates changed he can talk to Greg and Greg can come tell me what he wants done.   I have a sense that Steve envisions himself being a manager and being able to order me around. But I report to Greg and Pete, and those are Greg's documents, and I'm not altering them without Greg telling me to. 

I have a hunch that Steve's delusions of grandeur are going to cause conflict between me and him, and I don't like conflict.

---

My co-workers:

Technical Sales Tom-- he is in the cubicle next to me, and we talk over the wall constantly, except for when he's on a call. I really enjoy working with him.  Tom and his wife were the ones who took me to see the singer last week. Tom is tremendously good at relating to people.  Listening to him interact with customers on the phone or watching him with people around the office has taught me a lot. I sometimes struggle at dealing with people and try to mimic what works for other people who are good at it, and Tom is probably the best at it that I have ever been around.

Good Boss Greg--  Greg is pleasant, quiet, and mostly focused on work. He's the brains of the operation, and designs our wonderful products along with Boring Stories Bob, Engineer Ed, and Ted Technician.  He's an introvert and workaholic, and he doesn't often join in the fun, but when he does have something to add it's always funny. He has a great dry sense of humor. When he needs something from me, he's always clear about what, when, and how. He's very easy to work for.

Boring Stories Bob-- Bob is a good guy, but he likes to talk a lot, and if you want to talk with him you need an exit strategy. He often joins in when Tom and I have come up with some idea we think is hilarious.  Bob will typically join in, revolve the idea around until he's found the least funny, most obvious interpretation of it, and beat the joke to death until it's not funny anymore.  Bob likes to give a play by play of his thought process from the moment he heard something to how he arrived at the conclusion he arrived at, even if there's nothing remotely interesting about the entire journey. "When I heard you say... my initial thought was ...  and then I thought, ah-ha! ...but then I heard...  ...and so then I knew for sure that yes, you were ordering parts and not a pizza. So I was right all along!"   Bob is good natured and fun loving, but I think he is just painfully unaware of how uninteresting his stories are.

Production Chief Pete-- along with Greg, Pete is the person I work most directly for. He is gruff and no-nonsense. Pete is deeply religious, and I'm sure that in secret he wishes I'd find Jesus, find a husband, and have babies-- but he would want all of that for me because he would believe in his heart that it's what would make me happy.  I feel loved and respected by Pete.  He is not demonstrative, but I know that deep down he has a soft spot for me and really appreciates me. In a sense I was hired to be an apprentice Pete, to take on his more menial duties as the business grows. 

the Minions-- one of the things I have taken over from Pete is managing the minions.  These little yellow one-eyed stress-factors would have Pete tearing his hair out, if he had any left. I act as a buffer between Pete and the minions. It's hard to describe the minions without using phrases like "offbeat shenanigans", "wacky hijinks", and "zany antics". They always keep me on my toes.  One thing I can say about the minions is that I have not yet killed any of them.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 07:01:35 am
Questions:

Why add Steve ?

Also, are you doing operations ?  Is it like a production line ?  Or are these mini projects, like custom made products ?  I don't need to know what you're making just what class of thing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on October 21, 2018, 08:07:01 am
I cheered myself up and forgot I even posted that....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 08:10:29 am
I cheered myself up and forgot I even posted that....

How'd you do it Taylor ? 

Riding a horse along the beach until you saw the Statue of Liberty sticking out of the sand ?

(https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2015/11/PghmLQjI-600x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 21, 2018, 10:55:47 am
Questions:

Why add Steve ?

Also, are you doing operations ?  Is it like a production line ?  Or are these mini projects, like custom made products ?  I don't need to know what you're making just what class of thing.

It's small volume manufacturing for industrial applications. Some of it is pretty standard, other stuff is modified to specific customer demands. We have some of the parts manufactured for us, we custom build others on our CNC machine, and all of it is assembled and finished in-house by my team of highly skilled experts.

(https://i.imgur.com/PfYC3zH.png)


Old Economy Steve was brought in to do technical sales and support to take some of the load off Technical Sales Tom.  As with Tom, Steve knows more about what the customer needs than the customer themselves do.  He has decades of experience in the industry, and a wealth of contacts as well.  I can certainly understand what he brings to the table.    His desire change all kinds of stuff so that it would be more like he used to use at his previous employer is pretty annoying.   Phrases like "well I did it this way for 30 years..." and pointless arguments trying to illustrate some perceived shortcoming with our current system have become pretty common around the office.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 11:39:33 am
Sounds like you are just venting right now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on October 21, 2018, 11:57:23 am
Sounds like you are just venting right now.

Venting is when you're angry. She doesn't sound angry.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 12:10:01 pm
You can vent over frustration.  Why not?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 21, 2018, 12:54:25 pm
I guess to some degree I'm venting. I'm feeling insecure right now as this new arrival has created fresh uncertainty for me. I feel like I need to prove myself all over again, stake out my territory all over again, and I felt like I had done that already and was happy with where everything was.  I have a strong sense that Steve sees my role as being somewhere in the range of coffee-maker, general-purpose peon, phone-answerer, typist, this sort of thing... so I am somewhat resentful of that as well. 

And we keep having these conversations where he shows up at my desk and says "Question for ya:" and the question is always some variant on "why do we do that this way, when we did things differently at my old job and I like my way better."  Whether it be the templates he wanted changed Friday or some process or procedure or document, he always comes to me to bellyache about it. And I have told him that he should discuss that stuff with Tom or Greg, not me.   Tom and Greg aren't receptive to changing things... they developed all these documents and processes, and they've been using them for years before I even started here, and they're happy with them, and they don't want to change anything. So I feel like Steve has taking to griping to me about this stuff because maybe he thinks he can bully me into changing things without instruction from the people I actually report to, which I won't.  Tom will generally jump in if he overhears these gripe sessions and "manage" Steve gently but firmly out of my hair, which I appreciate.

And yeah, the stale jokes and awkward personal interactions are also pretty grating.

Overall this Steve situation is not specifically too good, and has been weighing down my usually happy work-day.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 01:12:56 pm
Having a person assigned to making coffee is very 'old economy'.

Do you guys have a secretary too?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 21, 2018, 01:22:07 pm
I usually make coffee because I'm the one who needs coffee the worst.  Other people make coffee too if they get to it before me. Usually the people who need the coffee make the coffee.  Ed Engineer and Ted Technician often make coffee.

We don't have a secretary... a lot of the office manager type stuff is split between myself and Pete.  Phones are usually answered by either me or Boring Stories Bob, and are often just transferred to Tom and Steve because usually the calls are for them.  Maybe we should get a secretary.  It would be nice to have a Christina Hendricks type around the office. Also, Boring Stories Bob does bring a briefcase to work. He just carries his lunch in it, though. It's just a big leather lunch-box, really.  Nobody at our office has quill pens or muskets, though.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 21, 2018, 02:19:33 pm
I thought Christina had the prettiest face...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 21, 2018, 03:21:32 pm
We need a job/personality description for Minion buffer Kimmy
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on October 21, 2018, 04:53:32 pm
I wanted to make a joke about sailors here....

I've racked my brain, asked family and friends, and even been on the phone to the Admiralty in Westminster (they hung up on me! Snooty bastards) but I can not think of a sailor joke to go with my comment.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on October 21, 2018, 09:06:07 pm
What are your thoughts on Bhuddism?  It's not incompatible with atheism, and I really like what I'm learning about it so far.  I'm thinking of becoming one....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 21, 2018, 09:16:21 pm
I'd say you can't go wrong with a guy smiles even though he has a bit of a fat belly and says things like:
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 21, 2018, 11:49:51 pm
What are your thoughts on Bhuddism?  It's not incompatible with atheism, and I really like what I'm learning about it so far.  I'm thinking of becoming one....
Why?

I liked Buddhism too, it did seem more humanistic when I read some stuff.  Nonetheless, some adherents have still been able to make genocide compatible with their belief. 

Perhaps you are kidding?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 22, 2018, 12:39:28 am
Those non-religious westerners who need religion seem to like Buddhism.   Ooooh...   a religion for atheists!

I don’t think one needs a religion to implement good philosophies.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 22, 2018, 12:52:21 am
I thought Christina had the prettiest face...

She has lovely eyes...


We need a job/personality description for Minion buffer Kimmy

"Diversity Hire"

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 22, 2018, 06:19:46 am
Buddhism and Christianity are close, actually.  I did a beliefs test online, and Buddhism-Christianity came 1&2 but Christianity only lost because I don't believe in the divinity.  Christianity has defacto become a descriptor for a certain kind of person, because most self-described Christians are not Christians.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 22, 2018, 09:21:51 am
Buddhism and Christianity are close, actually.  I did a beliefs test online, and Buddhism-Christianity came 1&2 but Christianity only lost because I don't believe in the divinity.  Christianity has defacto become a descriptor for a certain kind of person, because most self-described Christians are not Christians.

But that's like THE defining belief of Christianity. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 22, 2018, 06:43:15 pm
Buddhism and Christianity are close, actually.  I did a beliefs test online, and Buddhism-Christianity came 1&2 but Christianity only lost because I don't believe in the divinity.  Christianity has defacto become a descriptor for a certain kind of person, because most self-described Christians are not Christians.

LOL

No, Buddhism and Christianity are not close.  And Christianity is not a description of personality traits.   ::)

You’ve just rendered the meaning of those terms as useless.

“What’s a Christian”?   
“someone who’s nice....   sort of like a Buddhist”. 
“Oh, what about a bad person who’s a Christian?”
“They’re not really a Christian”.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 22, 2018, 08:14:04 pm
But that's like THE defining belief of Christianity. 

 -k

That's why I came in 2nd.  I would say that I'm Christian but most rank the divinity part higher than the philosophy.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 22, 2018, 08:16:38 pm
LOL

No, Buddhism and Christianity are not close ...

I dunno... I got almost identical points... maybe 1 less for Christianity....

How are they different exactly ?  I read Siddhartha but I didn't study Buddhism
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 22, 2018, 11:21:29 pm
I dunno... I got almost identical points... maybe 1 less for Christianity....

So you think some online test gives an accurate representation of which religion you should be?

Quote

How are they different exactly ?  I read Siddhartha but I didn't study Buddhism

Well, Buddhism doesn't have a belief in a divine Jesus....  Christianity does.  That's kind of a big difference...   I'm sure there's a thousand others you can google...

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 22, 2018, 11:28:46 pm
That's why I came in 2nd.  I would say that I'm Christian but most rank the divinity part higher than the philosophy.

I think most would say that you can't really call yourself a Christian if you don't accept the central premise of Christianity, no matter how much the general philosophy appeals to you. It would be like saying...

"I don't have any aboriginal ancestry, but I still consider myself an aboriginal Canadian because I care about the environment" ...

"I still like to eat meat, but I consider myself a vegan because vegetables are an important part of my diet" ...

"I don't believe that we should destroy industrial machinery, but I still consider myself a Luddite because I feel like people spend too much time on their cell-phones" ...

"I don't believe that the World Trade Center was destroyed by a US or Israeli government conspiracy, but I do consider myself a 9/11 Truthie because they make an important point about the importance of questioning what we're told"...

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 22, 2018, 11:51:28 pm
I supppose you can be a “cultural Christian”....   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on October 23, 2018, 12:03:55 am
I don’t think one needs a religion to implement good philosophies.

Western civilization seemed to figure this out a few centuries ago with the Enlightenment but apparently we still have some hangers-on who still believe religion > rationality.

Some people like easy answers ordered on them instead of using their own brain.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 23, 2018, 12:06:26 am
I'm just so happy I kicked that religious crap out the door so long ago.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 23, 2018, 12:19:58 am
"I believe this and this and this, and I'm looking for a religion that fits my views" is kind of the opposite of how a religion is supposed to work, isn't it?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 23, 2018, 12:57:14 am
I believe that if there is a God in heaven and I one day get they he or she will welcome me and and say thanks for not buying into the bullshit people there use to run around killing people in my name. How 'bout a beer?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 23, 2018, 05:48:11 am
I think most would say that you can't really call yourself a Christian if you don't accept the central premise of Christianity, no matter how much the general philosophy appeals to you. It would be like saying...

Yeah but I think if Jesus could comment on this, he would say that his divinity was NEVER the central premise.  The teachings were.

Quote
"I don't have any aboriginal ancestry, but I still consider myself an aboriginal Canadian because I care about the environment" ...

Bad analogy.

Quote
"I still like to eat meat, but I consider myself a vegan because vegetables are an important part of my diet" ...

Bad analogy.

Quote
"I don't believe that we should destroy industrial machinery, but I still consider myself a Luddite because I feel like people spend too much time on their cell-phones" ...

Better, but still bad analogy.

Quote
"I don't believe that the World Trade Center was destroyed by a US or Israeli government conspiracy, but I do consider myself a 9/11 Truthie because they make an important point about the importance of questioning what we're told"...

Bad analogy.

It's more about the deterioration of epistemic integrity.  A guy shows up, takes Rabbi Hillel's teachings and transforms this and says ... "if you follow me, then you need to do this above all things: treat people as you would like to be treated".  It's brilliant, as it turns subjectivity about how you are treated by others on its head, and turns it into how to treat others.  If everyone followed this, the world would be a better place.  If HALF of people followed it, then the world would be better.

Then Saint Paul shows up, and starts promoting this idea.  He's on commission so the more converts he gets, the more fame and fortune for him... he eventually martyrs himself but his work ultimately converts the Roman Emperor.  Along the way, rumours of his magical powers eclipse the message but the message is still there, intact.

By the 20th century, the message is corrupted and people are using it 180 degrees incorrectly.

.....

Now, should I be blamed for following the initial message and declaring myself a true Christian ?  I say no.

.....

Another way to look at it: if my mom told everyone she was a hussy would she be right ?  Hussy is an old word meaning 'housewife' that changed meaning.  Maybe she is right, but maybe she should only tell her friends she is a hussy.  I don't tell people who don't know me I'm a Christian, only people who know I am socially liberal and never go to church.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 23, 2018, 05:49:06 am
I supppose you can be a “cultural Christian”....

I convinced by beautifully debauched Burner buddy... a bisexual acid lover... that Burning Man is the most Christian festival there is.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 23, 2018, 09:46:12 am
I convinced by beautifully debauched Burner buddy... a bisexual acid lover... that Burning Man is the most Christian festival there is.

He was wrong. 

And you seem to ignore everything Jesus said, except for a couple passages.  Divinity is central to Christianity, which you also ignore. 

 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 23, 2018, 11:19:18 am
He was wrong. 

And you seem to ignore everything Jesus said, except for a couple passages.  Divinity is central to Christianity, which you also ignore.

Jesus is unique in history for the amount of effort analyzing, interpreting and rewriting his words.

Luckily, over all the contradictions he said 'this above all'.

I think that interpreting such things is personal, and subjective.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 28, 2018, 06:49:16 pm
Oops.  Baby time !  :o
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on October 28, 2018, 07:24:04 pm
Oops.  Baby time !  :o

All the best...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 28, 2018, 10:18:08 pm
Oops.  Baby time !  :o

OMG OMG really?  Best wishes Michael!    :-*

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 28, 2018, 10:27:05 pm
Holy doodle! We wait with bated breath. Get back to us when you can.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 28, 2018, 10:46:40 pm
Oops.  Baby time !  :o
Sweet!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on October 29, 2018, 10:51:45 am
Best wishes for the safe arrival of baby Hardner  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 29, 2018, 04:15:32 pm
Oops.  Baby time !  :o

21 hours later, and ....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 29, 2018, 10:10:59 pm
Slow going...
Maybe tomorrow...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Rue on October 29, 2018, 10:15:56 pm
All we need another guilt ridden liberal born unto this world. Bah but that aside I wish your family the best. Babies, they leak you know.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 29, 2018, 10:22:29 pm
All we need another guilt ridden liberal born unto this world. Bah but that aside I wish your family the best. Babies, they leak you know.

WOW. You must be off your meds.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on October 29, 2018, 11:19:28 pm
Good luck Mikey and to the Mrs Mikey.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 30, 2018, 12:01:30 am
I can't handle the suspense!  I hope everything is ok!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 30, 2018, 06:52:45 am
Baby is here and all is well.  Stories later, but first we need to finish feeding him and rest.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 30, 2018, 07:03:43 am
The weirdest thing is your brain chemistry readjusting to the fact you aren't its most important human anymore.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 30, 2018, 09:43:00 am
Congratulations Michael!  I am glad everyone is well!


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 30, 2018, 11:04:54 am
I woke up from a nap and was like '*... Oh... Right...'
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 30, 2018, 11:21:14 am
I woke up from a nap and was like '*... Oh... Right...'

Size? Hair? Name?  Pics?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on October 30, 2018, 11:28:30 am
Good job, dad! You procreated!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 30, 2018, 12:17:53 pm
Size: 7 pounds 10 ounces
Name: Ewan Zebra Hardner (jk no name yet but that works for now)
Mission: Enjoy life and make sure to not worsen this messed up world.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 30, 2018, 12:40:11 pm
Congratulations to the new parents, and welcome new Canadian boy EZ (born of the Taxus baccata).
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 30, 2018, 01:06:04 pm
Congratulations.
That's a pretty good sized baby.
I hope Mom is getting her well deserved rest.
Welcome to the world EZ.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 30, 2018, 04:17:04 pm
Easy it is.

So we had a visitor, little naps and now adjusting to the vaunted 23-hour-no-sleep baby lifestyle.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on October 30, 2018, 04:33:18 pm
Congrats Mikey!

Name the child Graham.  It has been decided.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 30, 2018, 05:58:00 pm
Gratulations to you and Mrs. Mike on your new life, for all of you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 30, 2018, 06:16:18 pm
Zebra is unusual. Is it zeh-bra or zee-bra? Is he mulatto? Some friends of mine had a mulatto child they called Gray. I thought that was cute too, but I'm not sure whether they did it on purpose. I didn't want to ask.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 30, 2018, 07:52:23 pm
Zebra is unusual. Is it zeh-bra or zee-bra? Is he mulatto? Some friends of mine had a mulatto child they called Gray. I thought that was cute too, but I'm not sure whether they did it on purpose. I didn't want to ask.

Gray seems to be a name now. Our daughter in law's sister named one of her girls Gray. Both parents are Caucasian Anglos.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 30, 2018, 09:16:12 pm
I think 'Easy' will be his portmanteau name.

Also so far an easy baby.  But holy crap the stuff we have had to learn already.  Nursing and wrapping for sleep maybe the most important things.  Also washing.

I am a man who needs his sleep and I had 3 hours.  Ok though.  I am managing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 31, 2018, 06:11:05 am
It was over two years before my daughter slept through the night. Just saying.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 31, 2018, 09:07:04 am
It was over two years before my daughter slept through the night. Just saying.

It’s a crap shoot. They’re all different.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 31, 2018, 09:20:54 am
I think 'Easy' will be his portmanteau name.

Also so far an easy baby.  But holy crap the stuff we have had to learn already.  Nursing and wrapping for sleep maybe the most important things.  Also washing.

I am a man who needs his sleep and I had 3 hours.  Ok though.  I am managing.

I thought we'd settled on "Coonlight".    Naming your child "Easy" seems like a surefire way to send him on a path to becoming a rap musician. Are you comfortable with that?  Are you ok with the idea of Suge Knight showing up at your house and demanding your son's lunch money?  I am concerned, Michael.

Glad to hear everyone is doing ok, though. :)


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on October 31, 2018, 09:28:41 am
It was over two years before my daughter slept through the night. Just saying.
My daughter slept from midnight till 6 am by the time she was a couple of months old.  Son took a little longer, but was sleeping through the night well before a year. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 31, 2018, 02:56:29 pm
Well, I made it through day 1. *Edit: WE made it through day 1* Random observations:

1. All the annoying things people tell you about parenting are true, but also unique to you.  The feeling I had when I held him for the first time after a difficult, if not precarious night of trauma ... that feeling wasn't bliss, but just a peaceful, blank, stunned kind of disbelief.  It wasn't a Hallmark moment.  I just felt like I couldn't believe this had finally happened after many years of trying.  It felt like an ending as much as a beginning.  I was relieved more than joyful.

All of that just to get this little peanut head guy out and get him to hopefully enjoy some good music with us soon.

2. I promised not to be like other parents, but have failed and am already trying to start a black market in photos to manipulate my and Joan's family members.  I am evil I guess.

3. I don't like much of anything but I really like this boy.  Also he is very cute and seems to like soft rock.  He's just over a day old, so I'll allow it for now.  We'll transition him from James Taylor through Joni Mitchell over to Neil Young, then jump ahead to Kurt Vile and work backward to Meat Puppets, Grateful Dead, The Band and then back to Alan Lomax recordings.  That's my plan for now, but I haven't written it down anywayer.

4. This is the least sleep I have had since university exam days and I have no idea what I'm writing.

5. There's no way I will have much forum time, as baby will take a lot of time and Facebook...... so I will probably only post here and not a lot of other places.  Eventually I'll get interested in politics again, although when I last looked closely at the news it was as bad as ever, with anti-Semitism now.  We're at Mt. Sinai and a large Jewish presence in our lives so this feels dark.  We gave Easy a Jewish name too.  I hope the world is ok, and if not I hope he can help.  Or it gets better and people just talk to each other. 

6. The facebook announcements have got hundreds and hundreds of wonderful mentions ... including from old friends who are too old to be on Facebook, who heard from friends that are.  Our hearts are floating out of our bodies with the kindness. 

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 31, 2018, 06:25:32 pm
Don't be all judgy if he likes contemporary pop music. I found it took years for me to develop a taste for Charlie Parker. The first album I bought was Abba's Greatest Hits and I turned out okay and able to enjoy Up on the Sun by the Meat Puppets.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 31, 2018, 06:52:22 pm
Don't be all judgy if he likes contemporary pop music. I found it took years for me to develop a taste for Charlie Parker. The first album I bought was Abba's Greatest Hits and I turned out okay and able to enjoy Up on the Sun by the Meat Puppets.

Well THAT album is a rare gem.  It's proto-grunge doing Grateful Dead and *meaning* it.  This needs all purpose music post.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 02, 2018, 12:09:58 pm
Definitely learning a lot about how little people function.  It's been a tough few days but we're rolling with it.

The ward here is funny.  Full of tired looking guys 20-40 with the same exhausted/determined look on their faces.  I expect they would probably look 'hot' to most women, so there's maybe a magazine article in this.  They're definitely in it for the long haul.

We're semi-private which is not as bad as it sounds as the entire floor of the hospital is a writhing pit of hormones and milk splatter anyway, ie there isn't much privacy or much to hide anyway.  Our room-mate snores.  Also, sadly, she doesn't seem to have a guy helping her.  She had a young lady stay over for a day or so, and there was a sheepish looking dude, young like her, but mostly just her and baby. :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 02, 2018, 12:24:47 pm
wow... I just heard her say she has a husband, but he's home taking care of baby #1.  tough.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on November 02, 2018, 12:29:09 pm
Wait til everyone starts asking you when you're having another one..... :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 02, 2018, 12:53:26 pm
Wait til everyone starts asking you when you're having another one..... :D

My plan is to coyly smile and say "We'll see !  hee hee hee" as I visualize myself dumping a large plate of spaghetti onto their heads...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 02, 2018, 07:09:38 pm
My plan is to coyly smile and say "We'll see !  hee hee hee" as I visualize myself dumping a large plate of spaghetti onto their heads...
tell people, “oh no...we couldn’t do that. What if they cancel each other out?”
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 02, 2018, 07:33:27 pm
Well THAT album is a rare gem.  It's proto-grunge doing Grateful Dead and *meaning* it.  This needs all purpose music post.

WTF are the meat puppets?  Post some good tunes in the music thread if u have time.

Kimmy & I will show your boy some Slayer when he hits 15 y/o  8)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 02, 2018, 09:26:34 pm
Definitely learning a lot about how little people function.

The don't come with a manual?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 02, 2018, 09:42:34 pm
The don't come with a manual?

 -k

They do and it says eat, burp, poop, sleep/ and then theres a more complicated one later on
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 02, 2018, 10:16:31 pm
This week's Stale Male Fails included...

---

 ...Stale Steve puts his lunch in the microwave, I hear a bunch of beeping, and he wanders off.  A couple of minutes later he goes back and says "Hey, how come my lunch is still cold?" and Ted Technician says "you just set the clock to 3:33."

---

 ...he goes up to Technical Sales Tom and Good Boss Greg and says "hey, we've got a customer asking what delivery is for Product X. Can I quote him 3 months?"   Tom and Greg explain that Product X is low priority and there are a lot more pressing things in line ahead of it, and it's basically so far down the list that we can't even estimate when it'll be ready, this sort of thing.  Steve listens to all this, and says "ok. I'll just tell him 3 months."   Tom and Greg both shout at him, almost in unison: "DON'T QUOTE HIM A DATE!!!"  And Steve is like "oh, okay, I just figured, I'd take whatever engineering tells me and double it, HA! HA!" and wanders off. 

A moment later Engineer Ed sticks his head above his cubical wall and does basically this face:
(https://i.imgur.com/IH4fZyx.gif)

---

So many conversations that start out with "Question for ya:"

---

So many unfunny jokes, followed by that same annoying "HA! HA!"   On Monday Ted Technician wanders by and says "is it Friday yet?" and Steve shouts "Ted! Don't get ahead of yourself! Ask if it's Wednesday yet! HA! HA!"   Like... that's not even remotely funny or clever. I just felt very sad for him.

---

On the bright side, he has not been bothering me personally as much.  Also no creepy interactions this week.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on November 07, 2018, 07:05:46 am
Holy fuck. I think I might be Steve.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 13, 2018, 08:36:26 pm
One of the bartenders I see a lot has been very flirty the last few times I've been through.  She's very ... sensual. The way she walks, the way she leans over the bar when she talks to you, the way she stands while she's mixing a drink... somehow everything she does just seems suggestive.  Monday she came and sat in the stool next to me and leaned into my personal space while she asked about my day, about work, and the usual things. It wasn't so much the questions as her posture, closeness, several touches, and the eye contact that made it feel ... intimate.  Thursday I stopped in for a quick drink on the way to my hair appointment, and when I was almost done my drink she came up behind me and ran her fingers up and down my back as she leaned over me and asked if I wanted another drink.  It made my heart beat quicker.

My brain is telling me that she's heterosexual and is probably like this with all her customers. My heart, and parts below my heart, are hopeful that there's more to it than that.   I've made a fool of myself before by misinterpreting signs women were giving me and it's extremely embarrassing. I am not ready to go out on the limb yet.


OMG OMG this might actually be happening!  She gave me her business card for her day job!  I think she wants me to contact her!

OMG OMG what do I do now???


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 13, 2018, 11:09:55 pm
Call her & go for a drink and then have sex with her.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 13, 2018, 11:12:15 pm
Call her & go for a drink and then have sex with her.

And then tell us about it in vivid detail the next day.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 13, 2018, 11:13:34 pm
Call her & go for a drink and then have sex with her.
I guess you'll be looking over the fence?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 13, 2018, 11:15:01 pm
And then tell us about it in vivid detail the next day.

Try to get topless pics of this seductress if possible I'd say.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 13, 2018, 11:18:38 pm

OMG OMG this might actually be happening!  She gave me her business card for her day job!  I think she wants me to contact her!

OMG OMG what do I do now???

But seriously, maybe wait until thurs or fri and then call her and then go for a drink or fri eve.  The worst case scenario is you have a drink and nothing happens, or she says no & you embarrass yourself.  Best case is love-making.  So doing a cost-benefit analysis, you have to call her.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on November 14, 2018, 12:18:03 am

OMG OMG this might actually be happening!  She gave me her business card for her day job!  I think she wants me to contact her!

OMG OMG what do I do now???


 -k

Don’t call her for several weeks...  you don’t want to seem desperate.  And maybe have some of your coworkers jokes lined up...   the old guy who annoys you...   it sounds like he’s got some good stuff there. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 14, 2018, 05:51:15 am
And then tell us about it in vivid detail the next day.

No... friends don't actually do this.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 14, 2018, 05:53:29 am
aaaand... back to work today.

Let's see how THIS works.   :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 14, 2018, 07:05:38 am
No... friends don't actually do this.
He was being facetious.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 14, 2018, 10:21:00 am
But seriously, maybe wait until thurs or fri and then call her and then go for a drink or fri eve.  The worst case scenario is you have a drink and nothing happens, or she says no & you embarrass yourself.  Best case is love-making.  So doing a cost-benefit analysis, you have to call her.

Yes, this sounds like a plan. I will do this.

Don’t call her for several weeks...  you don’t want to seem desperate.  And maybe have some of your coworkers jokes lined up...   the old guy who annoys you...   it sounds like he’s got some good stuff there. 

YES! This is the kind of advice I count on you guys for! Thanks, Squidward!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 14, 2018, 11:54:36 am
No... friends don't actually do this.

You don't have the right kind of friends.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 14, 2018, 01:29:25 pm
You don't have the right kind of friends.

I guess I DID, but in grade 6.

Feel free to share SJ sex stories in another thread btw.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 14, 2018, 01:30:10 pm
Don’t call her for several weeks...  you don’t want to seem desperate.

A couple of days is fine, a couple of weeks says you tried elsewhere and then became desperate.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 14, 2018, 02:50:29 pm
Never more than 7 days should you wait, and 4 is more than enough.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on November 14, 2018, 02:55:17 pm
I would join the French Foreign Legion without delay...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 14, 2018, 03:05:04 pm
He was being facetious.

....... ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 14, 2018, 04:11:21 pm
A couple of days is fine, a couple of weeks says you tried elsewhere and then became desperate.

What I remember about dating you could write on the back of a stamp but this makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 14, 2018, 05:20:34 pm
Yes, this sounds like a plan. I will do this.

YES! This is the kind of advice I count on you guys for! Thanks, Squidward!

 -k

ya maybe wait until next week to call.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on November 14, 2018, 05:22:05 pm
Never more than 7 days should you wait, and 4 is more than enough.

If she likes her then she'd want her to call her asap.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on November 14, 2018, 05:43:03 pm
Once you call, you should keep doing so every 15 minutes or so just to check in.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 15, 2018, 09:33:49 am
Thanks, that's a great tip too!  Where would I be without you guys?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on November 15, 2018, 09:48:26 am
Once you call, you should keep doing so every 15 minutes or so just to check in.

Also important to get passwords to social media accounts as soon as possible, second date by latest.  Otherwise you know she's just stringing you and has dozens of others she's messing with.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on November 15, 2018, 10:52:27 am
A small gift on the 1st date would be nice....   maybe a ring.  Not too expensive though...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 15, 2018, 10:59:03 am
Also, tell her you're a millionaire celebrity. I hear they just let you grab 'em by the pussy if you do.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 15, 2018, 02:21:51 pm
I usually take first dates to see my mom. It's a very nice cemetery, after all.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 15, 2018, 06:12:51 pm
AMUSING !
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 16, 2018, 03:14:30 am
"Hi, this is Kim! From the bar! You gave me your card the other day!  I was just imagining my face between your thighs thinking about going out Saturday, and wondering if you'd like to join me?  You seem like a really fun person, and I'd like to take off your clothes and do strange things to you hang out with you sometime!  Would you like to get together Saturday for some orgasms drinks?"

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 16, 2018, 11:24:17 am
I want to hear more about the strange things. :o
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 16, 2018, 04:44:07 pm
Yeah, this thread is too hott.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 16, 2018, 04:51:32 pm
Ah but it's kind of fun, in a weird sort of way to watch the kiddies get their jollies.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 17, 2018, 09:05:52 am
Ah but it's kind of fun, in a weird sort of way to watch the kiddies get their jollies.

SJ said that friends do share intimate stories, and yet we only have Kimmy saying anything. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 17, 2018, 11:13:22 am
SJ said that friends do share intimate stories, and yet we only have Kimmy saying anything.

You generally have to trust the people you're dealing with.
I remember sitting in my cubicle one day when the girl next door (literally) comes over early in the morning, very bubbly because she got some on the weekend. And, she confided, she'd been introduced to anal sex, and loved it.

So yes, friends to share intimate stores. That doesn't necessarily mean graphic stories, of course.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 17, 2018, 11:15:06 am
Ah but it's kind of fun, in a weird sort of way to watch the kiddies get their jollies.

He said with disdain, looking down from his lordly pose atop the pedestal he has built for himself, sneering at the common types without his vast nobility and worldly wisdom.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 17, 2018, 11:50:07 am
I want to hear more about the strange things. :o

I'll have more details about that after tonight, if I'm lucky. :)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on November 17, 2018, 11:51:41 am
I'll have more details about that after tonight, if I'm lucky. :)

 -k

It's not too late...

https://en.legion-recrute.com/
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 17, 2018, 12:26:21 pm
You generally have to trust the people you're dealing with. Would you share anything personal around an insufferably smug weasel like Omni?
I remember sitting in my cubicle one day when the girl next door (literally) comes over early in the morning, very bubbly because she got some on the weekend. And, she confided, she'd been introduced to anal sex, and loved it.

So yes, friends to share intimate stores. That doesn't necessarily mean graphic stories, of course.

Perhaps you haven't much to be smug about.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 17, 2018, 12:35:18 pm
I hope to get laid tonight - but we'll see.  If you really want, I'll share details later  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on November 17, 2018, 01:01:32 pm
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You generally have to trust the people you're dealing with
Not so much on an anonymous forum since actual identities are hidden, and people tend to think they can safely say anything.   The only one here who is really putting his trust in us is JMT, giving his real name and Facebook ID.

What we're really doing is trusting that no-one  cares enough to try tracking us down in person, to put reality to the stories.  Or a bullet to our head, depending on the degree of sanity held by people who argue with other people on the internet.

I am as sure as anyone that our regular posters are harmless, but we have lurkers and this is a public forum. That, for me, is a consideration in how much intimacy I would be willing to share. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 17, 2018, 01:03:49 pm
I hope to get laid tonight - but we'll see.  If you really want, I'll share details later  ;D

Well best of luck with that tonight.
I got laid one time when I wasn't expecting to. I was in a place called Makovik (way up north on the Labrador coast). No hotels up there at least then, but there was a big old house that had been turned into accommodation for travelers. One big room in the place had a bunch of bunk beds around the perimeter, and a big pool table in the middle. There were also some private bedrooms. There were a bunch of people there this night, mostly men and some local girls. One gal was there on a mission as a photographer for the Memorial University of Newfoundland. She introduced herself and later asked me if I'd stay with her tonight,(she had one of those rooms) as she said the guys were playing pool to see who got to sleep with the white girl.I said.......OK. We had a fun evening and ended up staying together for 12 years.

Once again, bonne chance ce soir.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on November 17, 2018, 01:04:27 pm
I'll have more details about that after tonight, if I'm lucky. :)

 -k
Let us know you had a great time, no further details needed.  :)

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I hope to get laid tonight - but we'll see.  If you really want, I'll share details later  ;D
Hope you do get lucky, details not needed.  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 17, 2018, 02:14:56 pm
What we're really doing is trusting that no-one  cares enough to try tracking us down in person, to put reality to the stories.  Or a bullet to our head, depending on the degree of sanity held by people who argue with other people on the internet.

I had one guy threaten to track me down once, on the other site. He knew what city I was in, and went through all my posts to try to narrow down the area. He knew I worked for Revenue Canada, and had actually looked up the name 'argus' on their web site, trying to find out which building I was in. He didn't specifically mention shooting me, but he had made a point of letting me know he was armed. Greg banned him the next day.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 17, 2018, 02:31:29 pm
I had one guy threaten to track me down once, on the other site. He knew what city I was in, and went through all my posts to try to narrow down the area. He knew I worked for Revenue Canada, and had actually looked up the name 'argus' on their web site, trying to find out which building I was in. He didn't specifically mention shooting me, but he had made a point of letting me know he was armed. Greg banned him the next day.

I bet I know who you're talking about. He made similar threats to me at one time. I mentioned having just tested the system in the US (Florida) and how easy it would be for me to buy an AR15 or anything down there based simply on a valid picture DL. Can't recall his handle.

Actually I did recall his handle short form D2. Is he still over there among the trumptards and nitwits?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 17, 2018, 07:26:44 pm
I bet I know who you're talking about. He made similar threats to me at one time. I mentioned having just tested the system in the US (Florida) and how easy it would be for me to buy an AR15 or anything down there based simply on a valid picture DL. Can't recall his handle.

Actually I did recall his handle short form D2. Is he still over there among the trumptards and nitwits?

He was one of yours, actually. But I can't remember his name. Before your time. Before Charles was the moderator.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 17, 2018, 07:49:53 pm
Watch it with the sex.  It can lead to kids.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 17, 2018, 07:57:52 pm
He was one of yours, actually. But I can't remember his name. Before your time. Before Charles was the moderator.

Not sure what "one of yours" means but this guy did threaten to try and hunt me down and have me charged with some offense. He was more one of CA's kind which is why I'm not there anymore. WAY too biased. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 18, 2018, 01:30:26 pm
Let us know you had a great time, no further details needed.  :)

I had a great time! :)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 18, 2018, 02:21:25 pm
Well best of luck with that tonight.
I got laid one time when I wasn't expecting to. I was in a place called Makovik (way up north on the Labrador coast). No hotels up there at least then, but there was a big old house that had been turned into accommodation for travelers. One big room in the place had a bunch of bunk beds around the perimeter, and a big pool table in the middle. There were also some private bedrooms. There were a bunch of people there this night, mostly men and some local girls. One gal was there on a mission as a photographer for the Memorial University of Newfoundland. She introduced herself and later asked me if I'd stay with her tonight,(she had one of those rooms) as she said the guys were playing pool to see who got to sleep with the white girl.I said.......OK. We had a fun evening and ended up staying together for 12 years.

Once again, bonne chance ce soir.

And it went well
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on November 18, 2018, 02:22:18 pm
I had a great time! :)

 -k

Your career as an erotic writer is off to a poor start!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 18, 2018, 02:26:11 pm
And it went well

Off to a good start then.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 18, 2018, 09:12:51 pm
And it went well

Slump-busters! *high-five*    ;D

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 18, 2018, 09:53:17 pm
Your career as an erotic writer is off to a poor start!

I wasn't going to get too detailed.  :p

We spent an hour drinking and talking, then we came home to my place and spent several hours playing in bed, then she went home to feed her cat. Which is not a euphemism for anything, she has a literal cat that eats cat food. 

It was pretty tame, but very pleasant. She considers herself a flexitarian... she's done this before, it's not her usual thing but she wanted to give it a go. She's fed up with guys for the time being. She said she gave me her card because she didn't think I was ever going to ask her if she didn't give me a nudge. I asked why she didn't just ask me, and she gave me sort of a blank look like I was asking a completely inane question.  Dating girls is complicated.  I think we're doing this again. I think she had fun too.

She's pretty and feminine, but there's something just a touch tomboyish about her.  At work she wears minimal makeup, a simple slightly messy hairstyle, tight jeans and a loose t-shirt and knee-high leather boots.  She wore the exact same thing to our date, which kind of surprised me. I was sort of expecting a blouse and some makeup, but nope.  She's kind of tall and lanky-- even though she's thinner than me, she's also softer than me. Pouring drinks and waiting tables might be all the exercise she gets. In spite of that I find her really attractive.  I'm just really excited right now. I feel like has potential.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 19, 2018, 03:03:51 pm
flexitarian? I had to look that up.

I only see it referenced in diet, someone that tries to maintain somewhat of a vegetarian diet but still eats meat on occasion. One could call it cheating on their vegetarian diet. Applied here it sound like how it was described, not her usual thing but she is willing to cheat now and then when fed up with man diet.



Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 19, 2018, 04:30:48 pm
flexitarian? I had to look that up.
 still eats meat on occasion.
Seems like the right definition  :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 20, 2018, 02:29:24 am
flexitarian? I had to look that up.

I only see it referenced in diet, someone that tries to maintain somewhat of a vegetarian diet but still eats meat on occasion. One could call it cheating on their vegetarian diet. Applied here it sound like how it was described, not her usual thing but she is willing to cheat now and then when fed up with man diet.

I kinda figured my meaning would be clear from the context...

Seems like the right definition  :D

AUGH!

What is it with you guys and your talk of "meat" and "hoses" today??

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 20, 2018, 02:33:19 am
AMUSING !

MICHAEL!

How is young MC EZ-E doing?  How is the parenting going?   You seem to have more time for posting here lately! Does that mean you're getting a handle on the parenting gig?


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 20, 2018, 06:53:54 am
MICHAEL!

How is young MC EZ-E doing?  How is the parenting going?   You seem to have more time for posting here lately! Does that mean you're getting a handle on the parenting gig?


 -k

Easy is good.  Parenting is tough at times and when we get into the weeds we're all stressed and underfed and tired and sometimes several of us are crying.  I have little ten minute blotches of time to post which is great. 

The key is that Easy can sleep 2-3 hours at a stretch, so we have to work around that.  The 'night shift' is... Joan sleeps from about 8 pm or 9 pm to midnight then I go to bed for 6 to 6.5 hours of *uninterrupted* sleep.  She tends to him overnight and he is sometimes up a few hours.

We even went to a restaurant on Saturday !
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 26, 2018, 04:03:00 am
We had date #2 on Saturday.  There's a joke/trope/stereotype that goes "what does a lesbian bring on a 2nd date?  A U-Haul."   The idea, I guess, is that lesbians tend to fall for each other really hard, decide "omg she's THE ONE", and move in together in a rush of excitement.  That has never been my experience.  My experience has been that these things start cautiously.  I'm fully aware that she's not committed to this as anything more than some fleeting fun.  The "flexitarian" thing is something that she might grow out of or fully commit to or whatever.  I started having sex with women 15 years ago... for the past 10 years it's been exclusively women... and it's only just recently that I've kind of realized "yeah, I think I might be gay."  I am very aware that for her this might just be a step on her journey.  For the time being, it's fun.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 26, 2018, 06:18:57 am
What is in this for you, in terms of her as a person ? 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 26, 2018, 09:41:18 am
ummmm....  not sure yet.   It's mostly sex at this point.  I'd like it to be more. Hopefully it at least gets to the "friends with benefits" stage, but right now it's mostly just benefits, the friendship is still a work in progress.

(https://i.imgur.com/MyctX55.jpg)


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 26, 2018, 09:44:14 am
I made some really dumb mistakes the last couple weeks.  I got drawn back in by the person that left me behind 9 months ago.  It turns out she was just using my for emotional support and plain support.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 26, 2018, 09:46:30 am
AUGH!  Stop doing that! 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 26, 2018, 09:47:27 am
I made some really dumb mistakes the last couple weeks.  I got drawn back in by the person that left me behind 9 months ago.  It turns out she was just using my for emotional support and plain support.
Don't beat yourself up over it. This stuff happens. You seem much more clear-headed about the situation now than you were at the time.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on November 26, 2018, 10:03:58 am
Don't beat yourself up over it. This stuff happens. You seem much more clear-headed about the situation now than you were at the time.

I have never seen her like I've seen her this weekend.  She's a trashy piece of garbage.  The person I loved is gone, and she told me as much.  The worst thing to do was to use the advice of Dan Bacon - what a crock of shit.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 26, 2018, 10:39:16 am
I have never seen her like I've seen her this weekend.  She's a trashy piece of garbage.  The person I loved is gone, and she told me as much.  The worst thing to do was to use the advice of Dan Bacon - what a crock of shit.
Dan Bacon? Is he related to Kevin Bacon?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on December 01, 2018, 04:25:28 pm
Kimmy’s cave discovery story reminded m of the time I once crawled into an old coal mine shaft....  it opened up into full sized shafts, but with many broken beams and areas where the shafts had caved in partially or completely.     We crawled over a cave in that went into a portion of the mine that no other idiots had been in since before it had been back filled.  I found a very old bottle in that section. 

This was extremely stupid, and we knew it.  Haven’t done anything like that since. I still have the bottle as a souvenir of my adventurous stupidity. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on December 01, 2018, 04:42:20 pm
I got to walk through some pretty interesting caves one time. I had never heard of the place and was stunned, especially when you find out it was created ~2500 years ago.


https://www.google.com/search?q=underground+city+kish+island&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjq2Lbz2P_eAhXLlVQKHTdjDVMQ7Al6BAgBEA0&biw=1344&bih=706
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 05, 2018, 03:28:48 am
Michael!  How is MC EZ-E doing?  How are YOU and your BABY-MOMMA doing?  Have you got the parenting situation under control?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 05, 2018, 03:52:01 am
Me and my new friend went to the Christmas Tree lighting and winter street market on Saturday.  The idea was to have a real date and not just go home and make out all night.  But that's pretty much what happened anyway.   I mean, I'm not complaining. It's not a bad problem to have. I'd just like to build other aspects of this relationship too.

----

At work we have the shittiest calender imaginable on the wall. It's a Murphy's Law calendar from this series of fine products:
(https://i.imgur.com/cG74WtT.jpg)

Each month has a boring, badly drawn cartoon, plus the retarded little leprechaun telling an incredibly stupid joke.   We only have one month left of it, but I kind of feel like doing something awful to the calendar anyway. I want to throw it in the paper shredder, or do something horrible to the leprechaun's face. It's just such a piece of crap calendar.  I'd like to find some other shitty 2018 calendar and replace the Murphy's Law calendar for the last 3 weeks of the year just to see if anybody notices.

If we get another Murphy's Law calendar for 2019, I am definitely going to do something horrible to it. 

----

My chief minion comes to my cubicle pretty often, and unfortunately she is a hardcore chain smoker and she smells like a human ash-tray. Today she came into my cubicle after her smoke break and reeked especially bad and it triggered my asthma and I was coughing and wheezing and convulsing and my eyes were watering and she's like OMG, leaning over me trying to help which is just making it worse by making me inhale even more of her cigarette smoke aura.  I survived, but for a while I was in real danger.

Later on Old Economy Steve came in and said "Question for ya:" and started talking, and his breath is so awful it made my whole cubicle smell like a rotting dead animal carcass. It was pretty bad. It didn't cause me to have an asthma attack, but I did feel strong nausea for a while. I should get a gigantic fan for my cubicle.

And later Boring Stories Bob came to my cubicle.  He didn't smell like cigarettes and his breath was fresh and minty, but he went on for like 15 minutes.  For a while I was listening, then I was like, ok, I'm pretending to listen while I work, and then after a while I was not even pretending to listen while I worked and he just kept going and going.  I'm not sure if a giant fan would help with this situation.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 05, 2018, 06:10:02 am
Michael!  How is MC EZ-E doing?  How are YOU and your BABY-MOMMA doing?  Have you got the parenting situation under control?

 -k

It's going ok.  The transition from no-kids to have-newborn is about a 30 step process.  Step 1 is I'm like you, and the Dr. says "We're going to induce her tonight".  Some steps in between are:  "She's in terrible pain, I'm terrified" "Wow, that's my kid" "What do I do ?  Is he ok" "F*** WHAT DO I DO TO STOP HIM FROM CRYING" "Does he need a change or bottle?" "I know that look - dirty diaper".

And for about 3 minutes a day "he's looking me in the EYE !  what's he thinking ?"

Me and missus are a famous team and generally regarded as a well matched couple but this tests us, and frankly we are turning into more of a brother/sister dynamic.  There is little romance, some warmth, and lots of efficiency.

As for baby, he's the cutest dude that has ever lived and will be a lot of fun once he stops crying.  Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 05, 2018, 06:20:00 am
Me and my new friend went to the Christmas Tree lighting and winter street market on Saturday.  The idea was to have a real date and not just go home and make out all night.  But that's pretty much what happened anyway.   I mean, I'm not complaining. It's not a bad problem to have. I'd just like to build other aspects of this relationship too.

This sounds like a problem you had before ?

Are you really hot stuff, objectively, as you really seem to sweep these ladies of yours off their feet ?  What do you think you bring to this relationship ?   

 
Each month has a boring, badly drawn cartoon, plus the retarded little leprechaun telling an incredibly stupid joke.   We only have one month left of it, but I kind of feel like doing something awful to the calendar anyway. I want to throw it in the paper shredder, or do something horrible to the leprechaun's face. It's just such a piece of crap calendar.  I'd like to find some other shitty 2018 calendar and replace the Murphy's Law calendar for the last 3 weeks of the year just to see if anybody notices.

If we get another Murphy's Law calendar for 2019, I am definitely going to do something horrible to it. 

----

That poster is horrible.  We did an office move and now we're lumped in with non-IT people, ie. white, suburban mom-of-teenager sits beside me instead of smelly fat Indian man.  Believe it or not, I prefer the latter.  Is it me or does every middle-aged milquetoast Ontario white woman act like one of the guys in the Cathys sketch in the Kids in the Hall ?  Fuuhhhhhque...  Anyway, she's nice so I can't complain.  But stereotyped behaviour really makes me come up with clever responses in my head.

(Forgot to mention that it looks like Joan and I won't be taking time off from our performing after all.  We play music together and have decided to continue, as the shows are infrequent.  I did do a theatre show last night and she brought baby and all was good.)

Quote
My chief minion comes to my cubicle pretty often, and unfortunately she is a hardcore chain smoker and she smells like a human ash-tray. Today she came into my cubicle after her smoke break and reeked especially bad and it triggered my asthma and I was coughing and wheezing and convulsing and my eyes were watering and she's like OMG, leaning over me trying to help which is just making it worse by making me inhale even more of her cigarette smoke aura.  I survived, but for a while I was in real danger.

Wow.   We have a 'no smells' policy in our office, and separate cubicles for smokers' coats.

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Later on Old Economy Steve came in and said "Question for ya:" and started talking, and his breath is so awful it made my whole cubicle smell like a rotting dead animal carcass. It was pretty bad. It didn't cause me to have an asthma attack, but I did feel strong nausea for a while. I should get a gigantic fan for my cubicle.

A can of old school aerosol lilac scent.... "Sorry - excuse me ..." Interrupt, then spray.  The purpose is to send a message more than a smell.

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And later Boring Stories Bob came to my cubicle.  He didn't smell like cigarettes and his breath was fresh and minty, but he went on for like 15 minutes.  For a while I was listening, then I was like, ok, I'm pretending to listen while I work, and then after a while I was not even pretending to listen while I worked and he just kept going and going.  I'm not sure if a giant fan would help with this situation.
 

20 years ago we had one of those.  "Hey Mike.  I got some jokes... Did you hear the one about the guy with Aids ?"  He tried to put himself off as almost an academic in his knowledge and told these shitty inappropriate jokes.  We saw his car once and it was like a 1970s orange Trans Am with an eagle on the hood.  Yes, a 15 year old muscle car really stood out in downtown Toronto.  The last time I saw him, it was his picture on the back of a programming language text book that everyone was buying so I guess somehow he made it.

I don't even remember his name, but maybe it was Tom.  The way we dealt with him was when he was in someone's cubicle for 3 minutes, the unaffected persons would call that person's cubicle and  "Sorry, I have to take this" and Tom would go.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on December 05, 2018, 08:21:48 am


My chief minion comes to my cubicle pretty often, and unfortunately she is a hardcore chain smoker and she smells like a human ash-tray. Today she came into my cubicle after her smoke break and reeked especially bad and it triggered my asthma and I was coughing and wheezing and convulsing and my eyes were watering and she's like OMG, leaning over me trying to help which is just making it worse by making me inhale even more of her cigarette smoke aura.  I survived, but for a while I was in real danger.

 -k

That's terrible.  Is there any way you can say to her that you are extremely sensitive to cigarette smoke, and ask if she would mind avoiding you for 30 minutes after she's had a cigarette?  I'm only slightly sensitive to cigarette smoke, but I do tell people that it bothers me and people have been very thoughtful to avoid triggering my asthma.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on December 05, 2018, 09:11:36 am
(https://i.etsystatic.com/11883302/r/il/40721d/1428337384/il_570xN.1428337384_mwux.jpg)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 05, 2018, 10:01:58 am
This sounds like a problem you had before ?

Are you really hot stuff, objectively, as you really seem to sweep these ladies of yours off their feet ?  What do you think you bring to this relationship ?   

I ... I think I'm conventionally good looking, though not "network TV attractive".  I think it's mostly that this whole thing was hatched around the idea of girl-on-girl frolicking, and extending it beyond the original context is taking a while.  That's actually how all of this has worked for me. Sex first, friendship later. My earlier attempts at heterosexual relationship were somewhat the opposite. The friendship came first and easily, the sex .. uh, well, in hindsight that part of it makes more sense now.

That poster is horrible.  We did an office move and now we're lumped in with non-IT people, ie. white, suburban mom-of-teenager sits beside me instead of smelly fat Indian man.  Believe it or not, I prefer the latter.  Is it me or does every middle-aged milquetoast Ontario white woman act like one of the guys in the Cathys sketch in the Kids in the Hall ?  Fuuhhhhhque...  Anyway, she's nice so I can't complain.  But stereotyped behaviour really makes me come up with clever responses in my head.

I know, right? I feel genuinely disappointed that somebody in the office has such a lame sense of humor. Maybe one of our suppliers sent it or maybe it was a Christmas gift that somebody got and brought to work because they didn't want it in their home.

I don't know who actually brought the calendar. Old Economy Steve would have been the obvious candidate, but we had the calendar before he started with us. I can't figure out whose sense of humor is so banal they would like this.   The technical people have highly quirky senses of humor, which rules out Good Boss Greg, Engineer Ed, Tech Sales Tom, and Ted Technician. It doesn't seem like something Boring Stories Bob would bring either.  So that leaves either Production Chief Pete or one of the minions.

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I just really want to fuck up this calendar.

(Forgot to mention that it looks like Joan and I won't be taking time off from our performing after all.  We play music together and have decided to continue, as the shows are infrequent.  I did do a theatre show last night and she brought baby and all was good.)

Yay! Now that you've got the parenting thing on lockdown, you're discovering that you can still have a life!

I will be so delighted if young EZ's first words are "wubbah chicken?"

Wow.   We have a 'no smells' policy in our office, and separate cubicles for smokers' coats.

A can of old school aerosol lilac scent.... "Sorry - excuse me ..." Interrupt, then spray.  The purpose is to send a message more than a smell.

This is genius.  Maybe I should also buy a large bowl full of breath mints and put them on the shelf by my cubicle entrance. 


I don't even remember his name, but maybe it was Tom.  The way we dealt with him was when he was in someone's cubicle for 3 minutes, the unaffected persons would call that person's cubicle and  "Sorry, I have to take this" and Tom would go.

That's also genius.   We should coordinate something like that at my place.  Sometimes Engineer Ed will break up these things by making some comment that completely distracts Bob and puts him on a whole different rail. "Holy shit, Bob, what happened to your shoes? It looks like a wolverine attacked you." Then Bob will start telling Ed about how shitty the shoes are and he's never buying that brand again and so on and Ed says "uh huh" and leaves and Bob goes back to his cubicle and starts working again.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on December 05, 2018, 10:41:03 am
You guys are sounding super judgemental about your coworkers....   maybe they’re not the issue....?   Just sayin’...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on December 05, 2018, 11:04:05 am
You guys are sounding super judgemental about your coworkers....   maybe they’re not the issue....?   Just sayin’...

My coworker who does the on-site training of new clients has come back from the last 4 installs with horror stories of everyone she trains - they are all idiots, unqualified, stupid....etc.

2 installs ago, she gave us a report on how it went and I walked away saying, "Well, that was depressing."

The last install, I walked away from her report saying, "It's amazing to me that every client in every town office we install at, are all unqualified idiots."

She treats the rest of us in the office the same way.

It's a pretty toxic workplace.  But it's a job right now so I try to stay positive.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on December 05, 2018, 11:49:17 am
I got to walk through some pretty interesting caves one time. I had never heard of the place and was stunned, especially when you find out it was created ~2500 years ago.


https://www.google.com/search?q=underground+city+kish+island&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjq2Lbz2P_eAhXLlVQKHTdjDVMQ7Al6BAgBEA0&biw=1344&bih=706

Those are amazing.  I have a bluff in front of my house that I keep dreaming of digging out and making a wine cellar like those caves!  But the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars it would cost to drill into rock has left me with just fantasies...

(https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_fg2fYyWfzCU%2FTILKIRcbmiI%2FAAAAAAAAB4M%2FFQqPZway8uE%2Fs1600%2Fwine%2Bcellar%2Bvia%2Bdesire%2Bto%2Binspire.jpg&hash=7708a887bc039911986cb914d938340c4a0ef0f0)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: SirJohn on December 05, 2018, 11:59:17 am
And later Boring Stories Bob came to my cubicle.  He didn't smell like cigarettes and his breath was fresh and minty, but he went on for like 15 minutes.  For a while I was listening, then I was like, ok, I'm pretending to listen while I work, and then after a while I was not even pretending to listen while I worked and he just kept going and going.  I'm not sure if a giant fan would help with this situation.

I can deeply sympathize with you on this one. There were so many times I was stuck in my cubicle and while some idiot was droning on and on I was fantasizing about a trap door under the desk I could slip into and disappear if only he'd turn his head (it's always a he). I found the only actual way to get free of them was to get up and leave myself.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: guest4 on December 05, 2018, 12:10:42 pm
It's a pretty toxic workplace.  But it's a job right now so I try to stay positive.

I hope you can leave sooner rather than later.    I stayed in a toxic position too long, and when I finally left, I noticed so many things I had been missing before even though I encountered them almost daily - the wonderful smell of fresh air, the beauty of flowers and trees, how adorable my dogs are, how nice (most) people are.  I now make less money, and that's a stress, but the improvement in my quality of my life is priceless.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on December 05, 2018, 12:11:51 pm
Those are amazing.  I have a bluff in front of my house that I keep dreaming of digging out and making a wine cellar like those caves!  But the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars it would cost to drill into rock has left me with just fantasies...

(https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_fg2fYyWfzCU%2FTILKIRcbmiI%2FAAAAAAAAB4M%2FFQqPZway8uE%2Fs1600%2Fwine%2Bcellar%2Bvia%2Bdesire%2Bto%2Binspire.jpg&hash=7708a887bc039911986cb914d938340c4a0ef0f0)

Well now if I end up being buried, that looks like the kind of grave I want. I've always had this fear in the back of my mind of coming back to life 6 feet under somewhere. But there if that happened, I could have quite a little celebration of life party while I was figuring out how to dig myself out.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on December 05, 2018, 02:20:22 pm
I hope you can leave sooner rather than later.    I stayed in a toxic position too long, and when I finally left, I noticed so many things I had been missing before even though I encountered them almost daily - the wonderful smell of fresh air, the beauty of flowers and trees, how adorable my dogs are, how nice (most) people are.  I now make less money, and that's a stress, but the improvement in my quality of my life is priceless.

** sigh **

This morning I listened to said toxic person rant and storm around the office for about 2 hours about a client who inadvertently was not set up in our email system.  Usually the process we use works well, but in this case, the client tried to circumvent the process and one person was missed.  It's really not a huge deal.

After listening to her storm and rage for 2 hours and try to pin the blame on everyone else, she finally came to my office to continue the rant, so I took the paper and said, "Look, it takes about 2 minutes to set them up.  Let's just get them set up instead of playing the Blame Game like we usually do."  Our poor secretary/receptionist had about had it with  her by that time.

To which she stomped back to her office and slammed the door.

Ahhhhhh......hopefully peace & quiet for the rest of the day.  I get tired of the drama and just refuse to play most of the time.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 05, 2018, 04:51:13 pm
I ... I think I'm conventionally good looking, though not "network TV attractive".  I think it's mostly that this whole thing was hatched around the idea of girl-on-girl frolicking, and extending it beyond the original context is taking a while.  That's actually how all of this has worked for me. Sex first, friendship later. My earlier attempts at heterosexual relationship were somewhat the opposite. The friendship came first and easily, the sex .. uh, well, in hindsight that part of it makes more sense now.

Well, I think the sex-first approach is typical of many relationships. It happened with me, although I was deeply intrigued by my gal from the outset and hoping it would turn out... pretty much as it has :D

So... what next with this one ?  Do you get along at least in terms of hanging out and getting to know each other ?

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I know, right? I feel genuinely disappointed that somebody in the office has such a lame sense of humor. Maybe one of our suppliers sent it or maybe it was a Christmas gift that somebody got and brought to work because they didn't want it in their home.

I don't know who actually brought the calendar. Old Economy Steve would have been the obvious candidate, but we had the calendar before he started with us. I can't figure out whose sense of humor is so banal they would like this.   The technical people have highly quirky senses of humor, which rules out Good Boss Greg, Engineer Ed, Tech Sales Tom, and Ted Technician. It doesn't seem like something Boring Stories Bob would bring either.  So that leaves either Production Chief Pete or one of the minions.

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I just really want to fuck up this calendar.

You can't.  They'll know you hate them.  Somebody told me once they worked with someone for years in a big company.  That person got a transfer and then took it upon themselves to tell everyone what they really thought of them,and it wasn't good.  Then, in an independent and random quirk of God, the transfer was revoked.

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Yay! Now that you've got the parenting thing on lockdown, you're discovering that you can still have a life!

I will be so delighted if young EZ's first words are "wubbah chicken?"

1. Yes, and we have much more to do.
2. What ? 
 
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That's also genius.   We should coordinate something like that at my place.  Sometimes Engineer Ed will break up these things by making some comment that completely distracts Bob and puts him on a whole different rail. "Holy shit, Bob, what happened to your shoes? It looks like a wolverine attacked you." Then Bob will start telling Ed about how shitty the shoes are and he's never buying that brand again and so on and Ed says "uh huh" and leaves and Bob goes back to his cubicle and starts working again.


Do it.  I was giving serious advice and it helped us greatly.  Just don't be too obvious.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on December 05, 2018, 05:12:52 pm
That person got a transfer and then took it upon themselves to tell everyone what they really thought of them,and it wasn't good.  Then, in an independent and random quirk of God, the transfer was revoked.

Confucius say: Never burn bridges
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 06, 2018, 03:17:08 am
Well, I think the sex-first approach is typical of many relationships. It happened with me, although I was deeply intrigued by my gal from the outset and hoping it would turn out... pretty much as it has :D

 ;D

So... what next with this one ?  Do you get along at least in terms of hanging out and getting to know each other ?

I think we're pretty compatible.  I'm more reserved than she is... she's sometimes pretty boisterous and flamboyant, but she doesn't seem to mind that I'm quieter.   The snuggling is pretty great. She's very cuddlesome.

You can't.  They'll know you hate them.  Somebody told me once they worked with someone for years in a big company.  That person got a transfer and then took it upon themselves to tell everyone what they really thought of them,and it wasn't good.  Then, in an independent and random quirk of God, the transfer was revoked.

In my heart, I know you're right and it kills me inside that I can't fuck up that shitty calendar. 

The transfer person sounds like a gigantic jackass. That sounds like the kind of karma that usually only gets served on TV sit-coms.

1. Yes, and we have much more to do.
2. What ? 

If EZ sees a lot of your theatre show I can only assume he's going to become a big fan of "wubba chicken"!
 
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/281182591932-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)

Do it.  I was giving serious advice and it helped us greatly.  Just don't be too obvious.

As Boring Stories Bob and his victims, including myself, all work within a few feet of each other, we don't phone each other very much.  Perhaps breaking these up with polite in-person interruptions is something we can work on.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 06, 2018, 03:27:49 am
You guys are sounding super judgemental about your coworkers....   maybe they’re not the issue....?   Just sayin’...

The truth is that I am very lucky to work with the people I work with, and I know it.  Reading about Goddess's ranting diva co-worker puts it in perspective. I don't have anybody like that in my office and I've very grateful. 

It's fun to complain about Old Economy Steve and Boring Stories Bob and the incredibly shitty Murphy's Law wall calendar, but I look forward to going to work each morning. The work itself can sometimes be stressful, but the stress comes from having too much to do, not from my co-workers. In the past I have had co-workers who caused me anxiety in one way or another.  My current place has nothing like that.  They're all pleasant and accept me as I am. It's a happy environment full of humor and people who want to succeed as a group.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 06, 2018, 06:14:38 am

If EZ sees a lot of your theatre show I can only assume he's going to become a big fan of "wubba chicken"!

 ???
 
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As Boring Stories Bob and his victims, including myself, all work within a few feet of each other, we don't phone each other very much.  Perhaps breaking these up with polite in-person interruptions is something we can work on.
 

Ah.  Well, where there's a 'will' there's a way.  Maybe you need to put a stick in the whirling spokes of your office culture by suggesting something else... maybe creating a seed of something else to talk about, or another perspective, you can get people to focus on this old school bullshit humour less or at least make it clear that there are other things people are interested in.

I needed a way for a very diverse team to come together every two weeks, so I came up with a group lunch, bring-your-own, where we would watch YouTube videos on the big screen in the conference room.  It's actually turned pretty fascinating... from Indian commercials to Russian traffic cameras... to one guy's CN tower walk video... 

The point being that everybody participates and we decide collectively what to watch.  Culture needs to be nurtured, see...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on December 06, 2018, 04:37:52 pm
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya;
Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya,
O Lord, kum bay ya.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 07, 2018, 08:50:02 am
WOO HOO.  Work from home today and Monday.   Hello forum !   :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 08, 2018, 01:19:07 pm
OMG, Old Economy Steve might be a Trumptard!

Boring Stories Bob was laughing his ass off yesterday about these news stories about undocumented illegals working at Trump resorts.  Steve gets all huffy. "You know, it really annoys me that all this stuff is being thrown at Trump. He didn't hire those people personally. It's not like he's the one who reviewed their paperwork. This stuff is just being dredged up by people who just want to tear him down!"

Ok, so while Steve might actually have a point, I was surprised that he was so annoyed about "people who just want to tear him down".

I have a relative who's a Trumptard, but I never see him. This is my chance to observe a real Trumptard in his natural habitat, to try to understand his motivations and learn its behaviors. This is very exciting! A real learning opportunity!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on December 08, 2018, 01:30:50 pm
Careful. They tend to get their back up when you mention the irrationality of their arguments or their gobsmacking hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 08, 2018, 09:22:08 pm
Careful. They tend to get their back up when you mention the irrationality of their arguments or their gobsmacking hypocrisy.

Interesting observation. I will watch for this as I observe the subject in its natural environment.

"...normally placid and lethargic, the Trumptard may become belligerent or aggressive if its world view is challenged."

Maybe I could get NFB funding to do a documentary. I'm picturing something like those Hinterland Who's Who clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWHk8azaAc

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 15, 2018, 09:16:21 am
Soo.... today we're going to try to go where they are people, with baby in the stroller.

Today we become one of those.

Yes.  Angst.  I expect I will perceive spiky objects everywhere.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 15, 2018, 12:30:09 pm
Good luck!  I am sure your little traveler will have a safe and merry time!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 15, 2018, 01:09:53 pm
Here we see the stale male, invading a co-worker's cubicle in search of sustenance.  He bypasses the dish of breath mints and begins foraging in a stack of work orders.  Failing to find anything edible, the stale male calls out in search of attention.

"Question for ya! Question for ya!"

Attracting the attention of his co-worker, the stale male asks a series of inane questions.   

"Did we get the purchase order from--"  "The install manual needs some changes. Can you--"  "Do you know how to change the currency in the quotation form?"

The stale male's display has failed to impress the female, and he is chased away by other males with more pressing issues. He retreats back to his den, grabbing a handful of Christmas goodies on the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-aoWSpFor0

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 17, 2018, 05:43:39 pm
My son and his wife took their 6 month old to London and Paris. They had a great time, the French love babies. They got things like room upgrades and went to the head of lines.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on December 18, 2018, 06:42:26 pm
Good luck!  I am sure your little traveler will have a safe and merry time!

 -k

How is your lady friend going?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on December 18, 2018, 06:43:29 pm
Soo.... today we're going to try to go where they are people, with baby in the stroller.

Today we become one of those.

Yes.  Angst.  I expect I will perceive spiky objects everywhere.

What doesn't kill the baby will only make it stronger.  Unless it loses an arm or leg.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 18, 2018, 10:14:14 pm
What doesn't kill the baby will only make it stronger.  Unless it loses an arm or leg.

...in which case, what doesn't kill you makes you weaker.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 18, 2018, 10:24:54 pm
How is your lady friend going?

Things are very good! We have lots of fun together.  Mostly in bed, but also sometimes not in bed. We've been having a lot of sex, which is good.  We're not at the point of spending Christmas together or anything like that.


She does everything with such style and flair.  Last week she was dancing around with a wet glass that slipped out of her hand and slammed into the counter right below where one of her regulars was sitting. He's sitting there with this startled look on his face and says "...I don't know what I did to deserve that."   Me and probably 90% of people would have said something like "ohmygosh! Sorry! It slipped!"  She, however raises her arms in victory and says "Yessssssss!!" like she's just thrown a game-winning basket at the buzzer.  She's just delightful.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 19, 2018, 05:44:35 am
Things are very good! We have lots of fun together.  Mostly in bed, but also sometimes not in bed. 

That sounds like growth, right there...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 22, 2018, 03:11:13 pm
That sounds like growth, right there...

I think so!

She is going back to Calgary for Christmas with her family. I will be on my own for a little while.

She has great boobs for a lanky girl.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 22, 2018, 03:30:28 pm
Old Economy Steve's son is in town for Christmas, so Steve gave him a tour of the office on Friday.  He introduced me as "our secretary" :( and mentioned that I'm single   >:(


I think that if Old Economy Steve was asked to describe his role, it would probably go something like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV7u1VBhWCE


That's kind of what Technical Sales Tom does, actually. Tom interacts with the customers and understands what they're trying to accomplish, and is able to work with the engineers to come up with something that meets the customer's requirements.  Tom, Good Boss Greg, and Engineer Ed designed a product in 2 minutes last week.

Tom: "Just had a call from a guy who wants to interface his framjack with a zibitz. What do we have that could do that?"

Greg: "We could modify a Flarnex 5000 to drive a zibitz."

Ed: "That wouldn't work. The framjack output isn't strong enough to interface with a Flarnex."

Greg: "What if we use the Flarnex transcoupler inputs?"

Ed: "That could work. We'd have to decouple the fragmatic feedback plasmolyzer from the transcoupler or else it'll be unstable."

Greg: "Gotcha. I'll mark up the drawings!"

Tom: "Alright! I'll let the customer know!"

And thus was born the Flarnex 5040. Just three guys standing around with coffee mugs talking Geordi LaForge technobable. I work with amazing people.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 22, 2018, 03:48:17 pm
What doesn't kill the baby will only make it stronger.  Unless it loses an arm or leg.

They have to eat some dirt, literally and figuratively.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 22, 2018, 03:59:41 pm
They have to eat some dirt, literally and figuratively.

Absolutely! I once talked to a guy who is doing PhD research in gut bacteria. He said parents do their kids a lot of harm if they don't let them play in the dirt and drink from the garden hose and do all the other gross, unhygenic things kids do.  Your gut bacteria is a mega-factory for all kinds of vitamins and nutrients and enzymes and things your body needs, and if your kids grow up in an overly sanitized environment, they'll miss out on ingesting all the wonderful benign bacteria that create things our bodies need.  People can actually have health problems because their gut bacteria is deficient.

This is also one reason why people should ignore Gwyneth Paltrow's shitty advice about cleansing your colon with ridiculous enemas of coffee and lord knows what else.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 22, 2018, 05:38:56 pm
They also have to fall on their face, so they will know not to do it again. Shedding a little blood is a good thing as long as it doesn't do permanent damage.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 23, 2018, 08:19:07 am
Baby went to Hardner family Xmas yesterday.

Easy is very popular 😀. Was mostly well behaved but for a single shit-splosion.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 23, 2018, 01:00:09 pm
Baby went to Hardner family Xmas yesterday.

Easy is very popular 😀. Was mostly well behaved but for a single shit-splosion.

Yay! That's very good!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 23, 2018, 01:08:23 pm
They also have to fall on their face, so they will know not to do it again. Shedding a little blood is a good thing as long as it doesn't do permanent damage.

Also, they have to fall on their face so that they know that it's not that big of a deal.  I feel like overprotective parents who treat every minor accident like a major catastrophe are doing their children no favors.  If kids get the impression that each minor setback is a terrible disaster, they'll grow up with fragile mentality.  Kids need to learn that falling down (figuratively and literally) is part of life and that they just need to get back up.

(as someone who has no kids and probably never will, I have no idea what the hell I am even talking about.)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 23, 2018, 01:09:38 pm
And thus was born the Flarnex 5040. Just three guys standing around with coffee mugs talking Geordi LaForge technobable. I work with amazing people.

OMG I just realized that this is an "agile workspace"!  Michael! Michael! We're agile!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 23, 2018, 02:02:48 pm
Tell Old Economy Dave that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 25, 2018, 01:36:29 pm
Ted Technician can be a bit of a headache around the office. He is usually pleasant and cheerful, but he is one of those people who always has to be right. He is very stubborn and headstrong and convinced of his correctness. If people disagree with him he repeats himself slowly and more loudly.  Also he magically appears wherever people are talking about something more interesting than what he's supposed to be working on so that he can add his own (assuredly correct) opinion to the mix. One time Good Boss Greg and Engineer Ed made a technical decision, and when Ted found out about it he came stampeding over to explain that he'd come up with a better idea.
Greg: "We talked about that, but we decided against it because of these reasons."
Ted: "...but..."
Ed: "also, we didn't like that because of these other reasons."
Ted: "...but..."
Greg: "Sorry, Ted."
He was overruled.  But that didn't stop him from spending the rest of the day pouting to anybody who'd listen.

Good Boss Greg is great to work for. He's always pleasant and even-tempered and always clear about what needs to be done.  He's got millions of great ideas, far more ideas than Ed and Ted and Bob have time to actually work on.

Engineer Ed is somewhat aloof. He is sometimes friendly and sociable, but often has his head in work. He'll walk down the hallway focused on something and not acknowledge that you're even there.   He is tall, athletic, well-dressed, and somewhat good looking. He can be witty and charming when he's pretending to be human.  Which is not all the time. He might be a clone or an alien shapeshifter or a Terminator robot wrapped in flesh. I am not sure what it is, but there are times when I just get this vague "uncanny valley" sense from Ed that gives me the creeps.  I don't know if I am the only one that senses it. Like on the TV show "Dexter", Dexter has everybody fooled except for the black cop who can see right through his act... maybe it's just me that has this sense that Ed is not all there.  I don't have any reason to assume Ed is actually dangerous. He may simply be very "in his head" a lot of the time, and not reacting to social stimulus. I really don't know.  However, I am pretty sure that if any of my co-workers has a human body in their freezer, it would be Ed. If anybody were to show up at work and go on a homicide spree, I think it would be Ed.  He has this very calm and controlled nature that makes me think that someday he could snap.  I have this vague sense that like Patrick Bateman or Roose Bolton, Ed's  pleasant exterior is hiding some powder-keg of rage and violence just waiting to blow up.

A couple of weeks ago the minions had built a bunch of units that were failing final test, so Ed comes over to my cubicle to explain the situation.  So I dug out the work order and the parts lists that we used to build the units. He looks over the parts lists and says "this isn't right."  And I told him that this was an updated parts list that Ted had given me and Greg had signed off on.

So he goes over to Ted's area and says "Ted, why did you delete these parts from the parts list?"
Ted: "Those parts aren't used in this version, so I wanted to speed up assembly and reduce cost."
Ed: "The unit doesn't work without those parts."
Ted: "...they shouldn't matter, they're only used for ...  ... Oh."
Ed: "So you decided to make 6 hours of work for me to save 50 cents worth of parts?"
(This is the closest I've seen Ed to actually being angry.)
Ted: "uhhhh..."
Ed: "hmmm.  Interesting."  (smiles and leaves.)

I can only imagine that he was smiling at the idea of mounting Ted's disembodied skull on a shelf in his cubicle.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 27, 2018, 07:12:13 am
I always say 'mistakes are ok'.  If they happen twice, then it's the workers fault and we talk about it and put in something to mitigate it.  If it happens 3 times it's my fault.

Anybody else working this week ?  :-[
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 27, 2018, 07:45:03 pm
Sad day in my daughters family, they had to put down their Lab that the kids grew up with. He was a great dog but old and had cancer. Playing god sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 27, 2018, 09:24:39 pm
Sorry to hear.  Those are good dogs.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2018, 03:35:30 am
Losing a pet is awful. :(   It leaves a tiny paw-shaped hole in your heart that never completely heals. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2018, 04:43:53 am
I always say 'mistakes are ok'.  If they happen twice, then it's the workers fault and we talk about it and put in something to mitigate it.  If it happens 3 times it's my fault.

I think I read a Sun Tzu version of this where the emperor had challenged him to teach the maids and serving-girls to march like a military troupe. He arranged the girls into squads, appointed squad leaders, and trained them how the march was supposed to be done.

The first attempt, the girls made a complete shambles of it and laughed and turned it into a farce.  Sun Tzu apologized profusely to the girls for not giving adequate instruction, and clarified how everything was to be done.

The second time, the girls again turned it into a big farce. Sun Tzu said that this time he had made sure that they girls had been provided with adequate instruction, and yet the results were still unsatisfactory. So he had each of the girl's squad leaders executed while the others watched in horror.

The third time there was no laughter, no farce, and everyone did exactly as Sun Tzu had instructed.

Obviously I can't execute the Minions, but perhaps I should start a rumor that under-performers could end up in Ed's freezer.


Reasons mistakes happen:

 -Documentation has not been prepared correctly.  This is sometimes my fault, but not usually. Sometimes stuff from the engineers doesn't get carried through into the final design properly. This is often Boring Stories Bob type issues, as he does the CAD work. Of course this is not always Bob's fault, as the engineers sometimes hand him drawings that are covered with indecipherable red pen markings with stuff drawn in, crossed out, arrows and lines everywhere, and so on. They're supposed to review and approve the drawings afterward, but I imagine that sometimes they just glance at it and hit the approve button.
 -Beta Minion sometimes daydreams while she's working. Alpha Minion keeps an eye on her, but she can't be there all the time.
 -Ted Technician hubris.
As far as human error, that's our main sources. We do have processes that are supposed to ensure that stuff gets done right, but processes can't help some stuff.


We hired a new Minion in December.  He is a large nondescript man, but he is quiet as a mouse.  In terms of appearance, he reminds me of Grimace from McDonald's, or Patrick from Spongebob Squarepants.  In terms of personality, he reminds me of Milton from Office Space. In my head, he is "Milton Minion".   I will definitely not move his stapler!


Anybody else working this week ?  :-[


LOL, no! HAHAHAHA!!!


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 28, 2018, 07:06:40 am
Working from home today...

Well, yes, the secret sauce is 'how much' ie. oversight, management, documentation.

With Agile you rely on the team to decide how to do things, but you always try to move them to improve if you know there is something wrong.  The guys I work with seem to have never worked with specifications.  As such, they see rework and quality issues as just a natural and unpreventable thing. :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on December 28, 2018, 08:29:43 am
Sad day in my daughters family, they had to put down their Lab that the kids grew up with. He was a great dog but old and had cancer. Playing god sucks.

Tis the season apparently - my sister accidentally ran over my day's 15 year old toy poodle on Christmas Eve.  It wasn't a good start to the evening.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on December 28, 2018, 09:24:00 am
Losing pets is horrible.  {{{Hugs}}} to you all
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 28, 2018, 11:17:20 am
Tis the season apparently - my sister accidentally ran over my day's 15 year old toy poodle on Christmas Eve.  It wasn't a good start to the evening.

That's awful, your sister must feel terrible.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on December 28, 2018, 12:17:18 pm
Things are very good! We have lots of fun together.  Mostly in bed, but also sometimes not in bed. We've been having a lot of sex, which is good.

let me bring this thread back on track... who wears the, uhhh... indispensable & 'next best thing' apparatus?  ;D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2018, 12:51:37 pm
let me bring this thread back on track... who wears the, uhhh... indispensable & 'next best thing' apparatus?  ;D

Honestly, neither me nor most of my partners have had much interest in that sort of apparatus.  I'm not sure if it's a real life thing that a lot of women are actually into, or if it's just an idea that has propagated through a fetishized view of girl-on-girl sex as presented in pornography intended for a male audience.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2018, 01:20:15 pm
Working from home today...

Well, yes, the secret sauce is 'how much' ie. oversight, management, documentation.

With Agile you rely on the team to decide how to do things, but you always try to move them to improve if you know there is something wrong.  The guys I work with seem to have never worked with specifications.  As such, they see rework and quality issues as just a natural and unpreventable thing. :(

Honestly that sounds like a recipe for disaster. 

We're in an industry that is subject to regulatory overview and one of the things we have to comply with is having a thorough tracking process for everything from specifications to assembly to quality assurance. 

The process works, but sometimes people take shortcuts in the interest of time. That was what happened with the incident I described earlier. Greg thought Ted's idea looked harmless so he signed off on the changes as both reviewer and approver without having an actual review done. So that sort of stuff happens. I guess they were attempting to be "agile".

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 28, 2018, 02:21:47 pm
You still have to submit to regulatory, logging etc.  One of the problems with agile is that people mistake the name, as you have, to mean 'take shortcuts'.

It's about delivering value quickly not shortcuts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on December 28, 2018, 04:03:52 pm
It's about delivering value quickly not shortcuts.

yabut, waddabout documentation... the bane of all 'real' developers!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on December 28, 2018, 04:04:37 pm
Honestly, neither me nor most of my partners have had much interest in that sort of apparatus.  I'm not sure if it's a real life thing that a lot of women are actually into, or if it's just an idea that has propagated through a fetishized view of girl-on-girl sex as presented in pornography intended for a male audience.

buzzkill!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2018, 06:26:40 pm
buzzkill!

Is that sort of apparatus something that men like to imagine being put to use during girl-on-girl sex?  I've seen videos, of course, but I'm not sure how popular that sort of thing is in men's fantasies. I am under the impression that straight men and straight women alike are avid consumers of lesbian porn, but not sure what aspects of it they find most appealing.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 28, 2018, 09:20:45 pm
yabut, waddabout documentation... the bane of all 'real' developers!
Still happening
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 03, 2019, 05:51:15 am
I went back to work after almost 2 weeks away.

"Hey, stranger! I haven't seen you since last year!  HA! HA!"

It's going to be a long year.  At least that fucking Murphy's Law calendar is gone.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 03, 2019, 06:10:48 am
Medical explanation of why deep breathing is calming.  Just dropping this here to read it later.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/12/what-deep-breathing-does-to-your-body.html

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 03, 2019, 10:15:51 am
I need that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on January 03, 2019, 10:26:26 am
I went back to work after almost 2 weeks away.

"Hey, stranger! I haven't seen you since last year!  HA! HA!"

It's going to be a long year.  At least that fucking Murphy's Law calendar is gone.

 -k

You really have a hate-on for someone who sounds like he’s pretty funny.  Lighten up.  He probably groaned inside when he saw you.... 

 “oh god....   the grumpy broad is back at work...   it was nice around here until the dark cloud arrived.  I’ll try and lighten the mood with a joke”. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 03, 2019, 03:32:27 pm
Oh jeez, yeah.  This guy sounds like he's someone you could build a whole charm school around.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 04, 2019, 01:59:34 am
You really have a hate-on for someone who sounds like he’s pretty funny.  Lighten up.  He probably groaned inside when he saw you.... 

 “oh god....   the grumpy broad is back at work...   it was nice around here until the dark cloud arrived.  I’ll try and lighten the mood with a joke”.

I'm fun at work.  I'm more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.

This guy just doesn't respect me. Earlier in my life I this would would have made me feel insecure and I would feel pressured to giggle at his dumb jokes or try other dumb things to win him over. But at this point in my life I've outgrown that.


Oh jeez, yeah.  This guy sounds like he's someone you could build a whole charm school around.

It's not that he's not charming. I think it's that he's so completely unaware of how militantly stale he is.  Even Boring Stories Bob is pretty funny, except when he's telling boring stories.  Not so with Old Economy Steve. As an aside, he also has boring stories, except where BSB's boring stories are rambling narratives that don't have a point, OES's boring stories are basically just opportunities for him to drop names and remind everybody that he has lots of contacts in the industry.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 04, 2019, 05:15:32 am
I'm fun at work.  I'm more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.

This guy just doesn't respect me. Earlier in my life I this would would have made me feel insecure and I would feel pressured to giggle at his dumb jokes or try other dumb things to win him over. But at this point in my life I've outgrown that.

Part of Agile is equality in collaboration of teams.  The dominant personality is definitely something I have not seen in the workplace (on a team at least) in a long time.

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It's not that he's not charming. I think it's that he's so completely unaware of how militantly stale he is.  Even Boring Stories Bob is pretty funny, except when he's telling boring stories.  Not so with Old Economy Steve. As an aside, he also has boring stories, except where BSB's boring stories are rambling narratives that don't have a point, OES's boring stories are basically just opportunities for him to drop names and remind everybody that he has lots of contacts in the industry.


How can one be STALE and CHARMING simultaneously ?  Go back to your adjective bag and get two new ones.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 04, 2019, 09:00:44 am
I don't think they are contradictory adjectives. Lots of things can be both stale and charming (the Queen, for instance). Isn't that the whole appeal of dad jokes?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 04, 2019, 02:04:22 pm
Maybe the queen.
Is Steve like her?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 05, 2019, 11:22:27 am
Maybe the queen.
Is Steve like her?

Steve is not like the Queen.

I think Bubber's mention of dad-jokes is on the mark. I wouldn't say that Steve is "charming" per se, but I think words like affable or gregarious are closer to the mark. (is it my imagination, or is "affable" only ever used to describe fat guys?)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 05, 2019, 01:24:49 pm
I use affable and not just for fatties.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 18, 2019, 05:29:44 am
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Baby getting fussy.  Also cute, so the spectrum of personality is expanding.  We can make him laugh now if he's in the right mood, no problem.  And that's heaven.  I showed a pic of him to an Indian lady at work and she said "oh, that smile, he's going to be a naughty boy"  ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 18, 2019, 09:35:01 am
That sounds adorable.  I wouldn't take the Indian lady's comment too seriously.  She probably means naughty in a wholesome Dennis The Menace sort of way.  You will probably say "boys will be boys..." many times over the years.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 18, 2019, 09:59:03 am
Things have been going well at work.  Stale Male Steve has been good lately.  He has stopped asking me to do secretarial stuff, coming to my cubicle to grouse about procedures I didn't create and have no ability to change, and so on.   His sense of humor, bad breath, and overall staleness have not improved at all, but I can overlook all of those things if he means well. 

All of the minions are chain smokers. I don't know if Milton Minion was a chain smoker before they hired him or if the other minions converted him. He attempted to speak to me in a complete sentence the other day! It's the most he's ever said to me. He became flustered and waddled away afterward, but it's progress.

I found discrepancies in drawings yesterday! I showed Engineer Ed what I had found and asked him whether it was correct and he looked over the drawings and said "You're right!"  and he made corrections to the drawings and took them to Boring Stories Bob. Then he came over and thanked me for finding the errors, and asked where I learned to read engineering drawings, and I told him that I didn't, and he said "well you just saved us a bunch of money", and I think his circuitry was trying to emulate gratitude and appreciation. I felt all warm and mushy inside.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 18, 2019, 02:26:55 pm
Wow.  Brownie points. :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 18, 2019, 06:38:26 pm
Must be tough being a minion if it drives you to chain smoking.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 19, 2019, 11:08:43 am
Must be tough being a minion if it drives you to chain smoking.

People in small towns love to smoke.  See above - Letterkenny.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 19, 2019, 12:16:47 pm
I actually don't know if they're chain smoking.  I just know that they all take their breaks at the same time and just go out in the alley and smoke cigarettes together. I'm not sure how many cigarettes they're smoking. I imagine that while they're smoking they probably talk about how awful I am.  Or maybe how annoying Ted Technician is. Or how tough being a minion is. Probably all of that sort of thing.


Question: what are your thoughts on office loud talkers?   To me, it seems like most people talk loud enough to be heard by the person they're talking directly to, and that's about it.  A few people, like Milton Minion, talk barely loud enough to be heard at all.  Then you have people like Technical Sales Tom, who talks loud enough for basically everybody to hear.  Like, not down in the production area, but everybody in the grown-ups area. Especially if he's talking to two or more people at once. Like, he'll be talking to Ed and Greg to explain a customer's requirements, and it's like he's doing a seminar for a whole lecture theatre. He's extremely confident, probably the most confident human I have ever met. Maybe that's why he feels no need to hold back his voice. Non-confident people, like Milton Minion, seem to do the complete opposite. I don't know. It sometimes seems excessive. Or if he and Old Economy Steve are talking in his cubicle, which is right next to my cubicle. Both of them are quite loud. I sometimes feel like I should go grab some of the ear protectors that the minions wear when they're operating machinery.


Oh, and I got a raise!  Kimmy! Kimmy! Happy! Fun! Yay! Money! Money!  Happy! Fun! Yay!   Good Boss Greg says that they're very happy with my hard work and dedication.  I feel very appreciated.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on January 19, 2019, 01:19:54 pm
I actually don't know if they're chain smoking.  I just know that they all take their breaks at the same time and just go out in the alley and smoke cigarettes together.

networking! In the day had a useless brown-nosing twit co-worker who didn't smoke... but went with the smokerboys every chance - day in, day out... openly admitted this was his opportunity to "work the channels". That and joining in with the golfing/curling crowd ultimately got him his coveted mgmt position... there could be no other explanation as the guy was utterly disposable with a most limited capability - networkers-r-us!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on January 19, 2019, 02:00:21 pm
I understand that Kimmy is writing a television script, a kind of 2020 Mad Men.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 19, 2019, 02:11:24 pm
I was able to throw the butts away ~20 years ago and haven't had an urge that lasted beyond maybe the first 3 days following. I recently had a chat with an old buddy/workmate who also used to smoke but has also been off them quite awhile. The subject came up and he commented that he thought "once a smoker, always a smoker", saying that in the right circumstances reformed smokers would pick one up. I disagreed saying there are no circumstances I could imagine that would even slightly attempt me to do that. Perhaps he still has urges. I certainly don't. As to variations in speaking volumes, there are a couple of guys who are part of the regulars that show up at table at our local, one of whom requires you to lean in to hear him, especially if the place is filling up, and the other who makes you lean out so as not to have your eyes go blurry when he speaks/barks. I sometimes wonder if this is due to a discrepancy in their own hearing capabilities, or is it perhaps more to do with personality. Luckily the others have their "sound boards" properly adjusted. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 19, 2019, 04:20:35 pm
People in small towns love to smoke.  See above - Letterkenny.
Kim City is the third largest in BC.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 19, 2019, 04:23:15 pm
Kim City is the third largest in BC.

I didn't realize she lived in Abby.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 19, 2019, 04:26:14 pm
Never had an office job, went from wrenching them to flying them. Congrats on the raise.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 19, 2019, 04:27:52 pm
I didn't realize she lived in Abby.

You have a point, they are very close. Probably depends on whether you include West Kim City.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 20, 2019, 07:09:57 am
Real winter now.  -28 C windchill. 

Probably will only happen another once or twice this year if at all, but we have a sewage backup.  Very bad timing as the landlord is awol, old and likely broke.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 20, 2019, 12:44:26 pm
People in small towns love to smoke.  See above - Letterkenny.

It seems like there is something class-related going on.   In days gone by perhaps everybody smoked so there wasn't a distinction to be made.  But to me, it seems like the people who smoke tend to be those on the lower income or lower education end of things.  The minions, as well as a lot of tradesmen I've worked with in the past-- tradesmen aren't low income, of course, and are quite educated in their own way, but in terms of fancy book larnin' they're not like the college people I've worked with who have all disdained smoking.

Among my co-workers, all the minions smoke, while among the technical people only Boring Stories Bob smokes, and BSB is old enough that he might have started back when everybody smoked just because everybody smoked.  In previous jobs, things were divided along the same lines... the laborers and waitresses and strippers who were in college or had aspirations of going to college didn't smoke, the ones whose aspirations only extended as far as next weekend's party were smokers. 

There's something paradoxic about this, in that cigarettes are expensive and yet it seems like the people who buy them most are the ones who can less afford them.

I don't know if my observations run along the same lines as other peoples, or if there's any hard research on the subject of who smokes correlated against education and income levels.  But to me it seems like there's something going on.

Speculating, I'm thinking maybe impulse control.  People who want quick gratification smoke, maybe. People who want to earn money sooner, party on the weekend, that sort of thing. People who think longer term don't smoke.  I dunno.  There's something there, but I'm having a hard time putting a finger on exactly what it is.



Kim City is the third largest in BC.

Well, I'm not sure of the specifics, but it's definitely a little bigger than Letterkenny. Last week I heard that the Kim City Airport has overtaken Victoria's and is now the 10th busiest airport in Canada.

Never had an office job, went from wrenching them to flying them. Congrats on the raise.

Thanks! :)    This is actually my first office job too. I have had an office previously, but this is my first job where both myself and all of my co-workers work in the same building all the time, so this is quite new to me.  I am sort of an observer of people, so I find the dynamics fascinating.  If there were beings of higher intelligence observing humans to understand our ways, office work environments would be a great ant-farm for them to study.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 21, 2019, 06:11:27 am
Frozen pipes this morning :(

Never had to deal with that before.  Mama and Easy are asleep... today is going to suck.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 21, 2019, 06:13:24 am
It seems like there is something class-related going on.   In days gone by perhaps everybody smoked so there wasn't a distinction to be made.  But to me, it seems like the people who smoke tend to be those on the lower income or lower education end of things.  The minions, as well as a lot of tradesmen I've worked with in the past-- tradesmen aren't low income, of course, and are quite educated in their own way, but in terms of fancy book larnin' they're not like the college people I've worked with who have all disdained smoking.
 

7 months since I smoked.  I don't consider myself 'quit' though...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 21, 2019, 09:53:30 am
When we lived in an old house in downtown Ottawa there were nights when we had to leave some taps running to keep the pipes from freezing.  Never had that problem when we lived in Edmonton, even though it gets much colder. I'm not sure what the difference is.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 21, 2019, 11:24:31 am
Frozen pipes for some reason has become more common in Winnipeg the past few years. The worst part, as I understand,  is it can be a real problem to thaw them out. In some cases, they've had to wait till June.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 21, 2019, 11:38:15 am
7 months since I smoked.  I don't consider myself 'quit' though...

Keep that thought. I quit a couple of times for up to a year and went back. When i finally did quit, it was a several years before I actually considered myself "quit".
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 21, 2019, 12:26:52 pm
I was listening to the radio one day and there was an interview with an addiction specialist doctor who was saying it was a good idea to reward ones self after you have made reasonable success at kicking a bad habit. Two days of no smoking or bottle tipping isn't quite enough, "reasonable" being the operative word. I had been thinking about buying a laptop, which were a little pricey those days, but then I realized I was well into year 4 without a smoke. I did a quick calculation on how many bucks I hadn't spent on smokes, then headed off downtown, bought that laptop, and still had a pretty good wad left over. Heading for year 20, maybe I should plan another trip downtown, or beyond.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 21, 2019, 03:12:59 pm
There are no rewards... well... one but my vows won't allow it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 21, 2019, 03:25:39 pm
I hadn't taken any vows back then, and I found the girls more fun in the no smoking sections of bars and planes, so I guess I had more than one incentive. The real rewards are the health benefits that keep on giving.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 21, 2019, 11:24:45 pm
I tried out a new skincare product yesterday and I guess I got a little carried away with all that exfoliating and microdermabrasion, because when I woke up today my cheeks and nose were all rosy.  I felt pretty ridiculous, but everybody just asked if I'd been skiing.  Since I don't ski I told them that I'd gotten wind-burned while I was hiking on saturday, even though that's a total lie.   

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 21, 2019, 11:36:51 pm
I studied karate for a few years and early on I learned about Tiger Balm, a salve that is good for soothing aching muscles while you get in shape. It comes in different strengths. I bought the red one. (strongest). One of the exercises we spent time on was full front and side leg splits. Needless to say your groins get a bit sore. A word of advice: don't come home from karate class, spread Tiger Balm on your groins, and go to bed. You will be awoken before too long.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 22, 2019, 05:54:37 am
Ok.  Pipes burst yesterday.  It's a big warmer at -14 but no power.  We have shut off the water.

The great thing about full-time is "work from home" option, which I'm stretching to day 2.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 22, 2019, 06:38:19 am
Don't they insulate water pipes in Toronto?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 22, 2019, 03:22:45 pm
Ok.  Pipes burst yesterday.  It's a big warmer at -14 but no power.  We have shut off the water.

The great thing about full-time is "work from home" option, which I'm stretching to day 2.

That sucks. Just you or neighbours as well? Above or below ground?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 23, 2019, 04:01:27 am
That sucks. Just you or neighbours as well? Above or below ground?
In the wall.  A guy with a hammer and a torch smashed the wall in and fixed the pipe inside of an hour.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 24, 2019, 03:29:52 am
Yep so if you keep the taps running a little bit when it's that cold the pipes won't freeze.

  -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 24, 2019, 03:40:42 am
I have to go to a party with my co-workers on Saturday.   :(  They're nice enough people, but I see them 5 days a week and I would rather be home snuggling on Saturday night.

It's not an office party, per se, it's at a co-worker's house. One of the company owners, actually.

Anybody have tips for making it more bearable?  I don't need advice like "don't get super drunk and start running my mouth" or "don't start making out with the boss's wife" or that sort of thing. I've got all that stuff figured out already.   Also some of my coworkers know that I'm not heterosexual but most of them don't and I'm a little uneasy about talking about personal stuff. I have a sense that somebody is going to ask why I didn't bring a date or trying to do the matchmaker thing or that sort of stuff.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 24, 2019, 05:36:40 am
I have to go to a party with my co-workers on Saturday.   :(  They're nice enough people, but I see them 5 days a week and I would rather be home snuggling on Saturday night.

It's not an office party, per se, it's at a co-worker's house. One of the company owners, actually.

I hate shit like this.  I avoid it when I can, or make an an 'appearance' then French exit.  Gawd....

But you have to.

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Anybody have tips for making it more bearable?  I don't need advice like "don't get super drunk and start running my mouth" or "don't start making out with the boss's wife" or that sort of thing. I've got all that stuff figured out already.   Also some of my coworkers know that I'm not heterosexual but most of them don't and I'm a little uneasy about talking about personal stuff. I have a sense that somebody is going to ask why I didn't bring a date or trying to do the matchmaker thing or that sort of stuff.

 -k

Well, I can't believe you have made it to this point in your life living where you do without coming up with your own style of answering questions like that.  Also given your wit... You can do the old Paula Poundstone (?) bit where her female gym teacher just says "I guess I never found Mr. Right !" :D

Stay until you have had ONE communal moment - like 'the toast' or 'the happy birthday song'.  Then just say you've "got to go".  10 PM is the target time... stay at least that long.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 24, 2019, 05:42:47 am
Yep so if you keep the taps running a little bit when it's that cold the pipes won't freeze.

  -k

We will remember.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on January 24, 2019, 06:34:57 am
I have to go to a party with my co-workers on Saturday.   :(  They're nice enough people, but I see them 5 days a week and I would rather be home snuggling on Saturday night.

It's not an office party, per se, it's at a co-worker's house. One of the company owners, actually.

Anybody have tips for making it more bearable?  I don't need advice like "don't get super drunk and start running my mouth" or "don't start making out with the boss's wife" or that sort of thing. I've got all that stuff figured out already.   Also some of my coworkers know that I'm not heterosexual but most of them don't and I'm a little uneasy about talking about personal stuff. I have a sense that somebody is going to ask why I didn't bring a date or trying to do the matchmaker thing or that sort of stuff.

 -k
I mean, getting super drunk and making out with the boss's wife might not be the worst career move, depending on your boss's proclivities.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on January 25, 2019, 10:40:30 am
Is anyone here parents of a teenage boy?  Or have nephews that age?  My sister is a foster parent and has a boy turning 13 in Feb.  She said he likes reading.  Any suggestions for what a boy that age might enjoy?  It's been a long time since my boy was 13.  I'm a bit stumped for a gift..... :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 25, 2019, 01:47:40 pm
Is anyone here parents of a teenage boy?  Or have nephews that age?  My sister is a foster parent and has a boy turning 13 in Feb.  She said he likes reading.  Any suggestions for what a boy that age might enjoy?  It's been a long time since my boy was 13.  I'm a bit stumped for a gift..... :-\

Lord of the Rings.  Anything JRR Tolkien

Ready Player One
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on January 25, 2019, 05:07:58 pm
Lord of the Rings.  Anything JRR Tolkien

Ready Player One

Thanks.  I forgot about LOTR.

Ready Player One was a good  movie, I'll check out the book.   :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 27, 2019, 09:55:54 pm
I hate shit like this.  I avoid it when I can, or make an an 'appearance' then French exit.  Gawd....

But you have to.

Well, I can't believe you have made it to this point in your life living where you do without coming up with your own style of answering questions like that.  Also given your wit... You can do the old Paula Poundstone (?) bit where her female gym teacher just says "I guess I never found Mr. Right !" :D

Stay until you have had ONE communal moment - like 'the toast' or 'the happy birthday song'.  Then just say you've "got to go".  10 PM is the target time... stay at least that long.

Sorry.

I remembered your sage advice. Things went surprisingly well.  I managed to stay until 11, and a number of people had left before me.  Some of them are very interesting people.  The man of the house-- an owner/director of the company, is a fascinating conversationalist.  Unfortunately at dinner I got seated next to Boring Stories Bob, who is pretty much the opposite of a fascinating conversationalist.  Luckily I was able to move next to Engineer Ed and one of the younger technical people and some spouses/significant others later on which was better. .

After some people had left and some of the men-folk had gone to the games-room for billiards and darts and other contests of manliness, I had a quiet moment with the lady of the house, who is a charming older woman who also does technical writing for us part time. She's a delightful person.  She had been badgering me to bring a date for a couple of weeks, so when she asked about that again I told her my big secret and she told me that nobody would mind a bit if I brought my girlfriend next time. She added that now she's extra interested to meet my significant other.  Although, she probably won't remember any the conversation because she was so drunk. And she gave me a great big hug before I left.

Anyway. It was a good night.  I felt super welcome.

 -k

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 28, 2019, 05:32:11 am
  And she gave me a great big hug before I left.

Anyway. It was a good night.  I felt super welcome.

 -k

Well, great.  I guess things work out sometimes.

Easy has a terrible cough.  We all have colds but it kills me to see him so upset and almost choking.  We went to Sick Kids and spent 6 hours waiting for doctors yesterday.  He's basically ok but Joan has to sleep in the other room with him...

Aaaand.... a whollop of winter this week.  I think I'm going to cancel my show if I can to stick around...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 28, 2019, 09:07:59 am
I think I prefer extreme cold to heavy snowfall. Extreme cold around here means it's brilliantly sunny, which can be nice, especially if you're inside most of the time anyway. Heavy snowfall is such a drag and it takes a week for things to be cleared and back to normal.

Supposed to go down to -36 tonight (actual temperature, not windchill "feels like"). Apparently that can be devastating for the ash borer beetle, which has recently made its first appearance in town and has been expected to wipe out much of Winnipeg's forest canopy in the next five years. With any luck, the obscenely brutal cold will be just too much for them.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 28, 2019, 10:08:44 am
Easy has a terrible cough.  We all have colds but it kills me to see him so upset and almost choking.  We went to Sick Kids and spent 6 hours waiting for doctors yesterday.  He's basically ok but Joan has to sleep in the other room with him...

:( It must be depressing to feel powerless to help.

Aaaand.... a whollop of winter this week.  I think I'm going to cancel my show if I can to stick around...

We had plus 12 and bright sunshine yesterday. People were out jogging in shorts and t-shirts. Crazy.

Supposed to go down to -36 tonight (actual temperature, not windchill "feels like"). Apparently that can be devastating for the ash borer beetle, which has recently made its first appearance in town and has been expected to wipe out much of Winnipeg's forest canopy in the next five years. With any luck, the obscenely brutal cold will be just too much for them.

"Welcome to Winnipeg, bitches!"   Hopefully this will kill the little rotters.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 28, 2019, 10:23:16 am


Supposed to go down to -36 tonight (actual temperature, not windchill "feels like"). Apparently that can be devastating for the ash borer beetle, which has recently made its first appearance in town and has been expected to wipe out much of Winnipeg's forest canopy in the next five years. With any luck, the obscenely brutal cold will be just too much for them.

We need some of that in BC to get rid of the pine beetles. The winters aren’t cold enough anymore.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 28, 2019, 11:57:24 am
We need some of that in BC to get rid of the pine beetles. The winters aren’t cold enough anymore.

Now just hold on a minute, I grew up in Ontario where I stared down my share of freezing cold days, shoveling off the beaver pond to go skating, after the driveway was done. I prefer the current situation where, even though it's close to the end of January I can see the lawn will soon need cutting, and if I want to go skating, I'll go to the arena. And look at all that lovely furniture wood those beetles provide. :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on January 28, 2019, 12:51:31 pm
I think I prefer extreme cold to heavy snowfall. Extreme cold around here means it's brilliantly sunny, which can be nice, especially if you're inside most of the time anyway. Heavy snowfall is such a drag and it takes a week for things to be cleared and back to normal.

Supposed to go down to -36 tonight (actual temperature, not windchill "feels like"). Apparently that can be devastating for the ash borer beetle, which has recently made its first appearance in town and has been expected to wipe out much of Winnipeg's forest canopy in the next five years. With any luck, the obscenely brutal cold will be just too much for them.

This place has barely dipped below freezing this winter.  We may have had a few days where daytime temperatures dipped below zero.  I saw rhododendrons in bloom the other day!

"Hot spot in Canada: 9.2 °C48.6 °F Sheringham Point, BC"

https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=03&siteID=07010
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on January 28, 2019, 01:12:39 pm
It went up to 11C in Calgary on Saturday. It's expected to be just above freezing for the remainder of the week. I miss winter.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 28, 2019, 04:48:06 pm
:( It must be depressing to feel powerless to help.

 

I get more worried than depressed.  And tired.  Always tired.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 28, 2019, 05:04:51 pm
Now just hold on a minute, I grew up in Ontario where I stared down my share of freezing cold days, shoveling off the beaver pond to go skating, after the driveway was done. I prefer the current situation where, even though it's close to the end of January I can see the lawn will soon need cutting, and if I want to go skating, I'll go to the arena. And look at all that lovely furniture wood those beetles provide. :D

I like that too but take a drive up the Coq, over the Hope Princeton or anywhere else there is pine forest. It’s really bad in a lot of places. A couple of weeks of -30 and we wouldn’t have to worry about them for a few years.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 28, 2019, 05:14:02 pm
I like that too but take a drive up the Coq, over the Hope Princeton or anywhere else there is pine forest. It’s really bad in a lot of places. A couple of weeks of -30 and we wouldn’t have to worry about them for a few years.

I hear ya for sure. One related problem I've heard from fire fighters, and one can easily wrap ones head around, is that stands of dead trees burn, oh, like the blazes you might say. The heat is such you can't get near them on the ground. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 29, 2019, 06:09:06 am
Giant dump of snow.  I shovelled the sidewalk out front, as well as 2 neighbours north and 1 south.  It's easy in this place because of the small frontage.

Anyway, it's all white out there this morning...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on January 29, 2019, 10:45:36 am
Checked the weather patterns. Any place East of Edmonton and Calgary will be freezing cold for the next week or so. BC and most of Southern Alberta will be spared.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on January 29, 2019, 02:18:11 pm
It got cold here last night...   -2.  Sunny today, with some fog.  Rain later this week.  Where the heck is winter???

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on January 29, 2019, 02:20:10 pm
Where the heck is winter???

Wanna trade
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 07, 2019, 04:27:30 am
We've had our first cold weather in months here. I find it kind of exhilarating. 

My cubicle is pretty cold, because I'm in a corner with an uninsulated exterior wall on one side and a big glass window on the other.  The headlights were out, so to speak...  and I felt kind of self-conscious.  I think I traumatized Milton Minion.   I had to go home and get a sweater.

Things going ok with the missus.  She had been talking about her (male) ex quite a bit, and it made me anxious. But that seems to have passed for the time being.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 07, 2019, 06:35:15 am
You're calling her the missus now, so this is like a real relationship ?  Ok, good.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2019, 09:29:12 am
Wanna trade

The Fraser Valley gets these crazy outflow winds. -8 in Abby and Chilliwack the other day -18 wind chill.
We have a Nest thermoastat which keeps track of the furnace operation. Sat 2hrs, Sun 7.5 hrs, Mon 10 hrs, Tue 7.25 hrs Yesterday 5.5 hrs.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 07, 2019, 10:34:45 am
The cold pressure system finally hit Alberta on the weekend, dropping temperature to -35 at night. Work was cancelled, due to the cold. It's gone up to highs of -15, but below normal temperature will continue through the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on February 07, 2019, 11:30:42 am
I broke 2 ribs on Sunday.   :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 07, 2019, 11:47:07 am
Jeez, sorry Goddess :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 07, 2019, 12:41:34 pm
I broke 2 ribs on Sunday.   :-\

Whose were they??
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 07, 2019, 12:42:27 pm
I broke 2 ribs on Sunday.   :-\

OUCH! I did one of mine some years and I certainly recall the pain. Mine had to do with my love of riding horses, sometimes bareback.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 07, 2019, 12:46:07 pm
Whose were they??

Hmm, hadn't thought of that angle but there was no actual specification as to the rib owner(s)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2019, 01:02:40 pm
I broke 2 ribs on Sunday.   :-\

Ouch.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on February 07, 2019, 02:25:45 pm
OUCH! I did one of mine some years and I certainly recall the pain. Mine had to do with my love of riding horses, sometimes bareback.

I'm telling people I broke them rescuing puppies from a burning building.  Otherwise, it's just embarrassing..... :-[
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 07, 2019, 03:05:14 pm
I'm telling people I broke them rescuing puppies from a burning building.  Otherwise, it's just embarrassing..... :-[

Good on ya. I love puppies. ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on February 07, 2019, 03:19:02 pm
I would want to be sure they aren't arsonist puppies before risking my life saving them.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: TimG on February 07, 2019, 03:24:57 pm
I would want to be sure they aren't arsonist puppies before risking my life saving them.
Worse, they could be Mexican puppies..
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 07, 2019, 03:26:49 pm
I would want to be sure they aren't arsonist puppies before risking my life saving them.

Right. Could have been a litter of Dalmatians trying to ensure job security.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 09, 2019, 12:48:00 pm
It is so windy here today.   A couple of ducks just flew past... they were pointed north, but moving west.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 09, 2019, 12:59:57 pm
It is so windy here today.   A couple of ducks just flew past... they were pointed north, but moving west.

 -k

They should be advised to make a 180 and let that wind head them for warmer air. A web foot on the left rudder pedal will help keep them straight as well. And yeah it's blowing pretty good here as well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 15, 2019, 05:28:40 am
Long Weekend here !

You ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 17, 2019, 01:02:55 pm
Long Weekend here !

You ?

Also a long weekend here! BC used to have the February long weekend on a different day from everybody else, but they have changed it. I guess they decided it was stupid.

Thursday was Valentine's Day, so I sent a strip-o-gram to my special girl.  It was basically just me in a long coat, but it was still pretty good.  She seemed to like it, anyway.

I think I hurt Milton Minion's feelings last week.  He came over to my cubicle and started talking but I shushed him because I was trying to listen to someone on the phone.  I felt bad afterward. We had been making progress. He had even been communicating in complete sentences recently.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 17, 2019, 01:10:57 pm
 :o
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 17, 2019, 09:32:45 pm
“Family Day” is such a stupid idea for a holiday...   as if not having a family makes one less worthy somehow...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 17, 2019, 10:14:05 pm
I think it's good.  Almost everyone has some one that they consider family.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 17, 2019, 10:34:21 pm
I think it's good.  Almost everyone has some one that they consider family.

Indeed, and I use this day to sip a glass of wine and reflect back on my family member's who are dearly departed, and the fun we had together.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 21, 2019, 03:39:55 am
“Family Day” is such a stupid idea for a holiday...   as if not having a family makes one less worthy somehow...

I am completely separated from my blood relatives, but it's still nice to have a day off in February.   If "Family Day" doesn't appeal, you could imagine it as Indigenous People Day, or Siha-Siha Muckachuck as I like to call it, and reflect on our kinship with the land and its original inhabitants.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 21, 2019, 03:40:51 am
I am learning new skills! I am taking on new responsibilities!  My brilliance has been noted and rewarded with more work!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 21, 2019, 10:02:31 am
I am completely separated from my blood relatives, but it's still nice to have a day off in February.   

You are welcome to join me and my family next time you are in Toronto :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on February 21, 2019, 03:56:29 pm
I am learning new skills! I am taking on new responsibilities!  My brilliance has been noted and rewarded with more work!

What about compensation?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 22, 2019, 09:41:10 am
What about compensation?

Not immediately, but as I just had a pay raise last month I don't mind. I see it as a chance to prove I'm worth the extra cash they've given me.  It's also a chance to expand my horizons and be more than just a shuffler of papers and herder of minions.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 28, 2019, 05:59:46 am
Ok so now we are house shopping.  My first house will cost more than anything anyone in my family has bought.  Actually my parents and two of my three siblings own MULTIPLE homes and none of these individuals paid for the sum of their properties what this one house will cost.

Our ceiling is $900K, more if there is an apartment to rent inside.  This will give us a $4K mortgage but more importantly: stability in terms of price and location. 

"You may ask yourself... well.... how did I get here ?"

My relationship with real estate is a giant weight on my shoulder.  My dad always got screwed and bought and sold in stupid times to do so.  I always feared I would get caught in that, and ... well yeah it's happening. 

Zen.  Breathe.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on February 28, 2019, 06:35:43 am
I feel badly for the youngsters these days. It's not fair. I bought my first house for $70k in 1995 with a $5k down payment and a $236/2 week mortgage.
Of course, those are Winnipeg prices. The same house would sell today for just over $200k, which some youngsters still might be able to manage, especially with today's interest rates.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2019, 06:59:14 am
My relationship with real estate is a giant weight on my shoulder.  My dad always got screwed and bought and sold in stupid times to do so.  I always feared I would get caught in that, and ... well yeah it's happening. 

Zen.  Breathe.

I can somewhat speak to VanCity rental costs, but I certainly can't speak to Toronto rental costs - are you sure? Given the projected absence of equity gain in housing for both cities, are you sure you can't find a (better/preferred) rental option to meet the needs of an extended family? Only asking in terms of wondering, generally, just how long you envision working; as in wanting to versus needing to?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 28, 2019, 09:00:45 am
I can somewhat speak to VanCity rental costs, but I certainly can't speak to Toronto rental costs - are you sure? Given the projected absence of equity gain in housing for both cities, are you sure you can't find a (better/preferred) rental option to meet the needs of an extended family? Only asking in terms of wondering, generally, just how long you envision working; as in wanting to versus needing to?

Speaking of personal stuff, knock it off with the annoying Private Messages, Waldo.  Grow up.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 10:30:25 am
I paid off the house last year...    no mortgage payment does the pocket book wonders!

I went out and bought a $250 bottle of scotch as a prize for doing so!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on February 28, 2019, 10:37:13 am


I went out and bought a $250 bottle of scotch as a prize for doing so!

Blue Label?  ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 28, 2019, 11:24:09 am
I paid off the house last year...    no mortgage payment does the pocket book wonders!

I went out and bought a $250 bottle of scotch as a prize for doing so!

Crickey!, I was just thinking about making a brunch, now I'm thinking about taking a spin over to "the store" and brunch will consist of "Scotch eggs".

PS-don't ever buy a brand called Smokehead.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 12:03:16 pm
Blue Label?  ;)

No...  I think it was a Glenmorangie...   Blue Label is tasty too though!  But it's over $300 here in BC!!

Crickey!, I was just thinking about making a brunch, now I'm thinking about taking a spin over to "the store" and brunch will consist of "Scotch eggs".

PS-don't ever buy a brand called Smokehead.

I don't mind Smokehead...  I had a "peaty phase" I went through for a while...    their slogan is "definitely not for everyone"...   so I can't really blame you for not liking it!   ;D

Have a dram for me!!  I suggest Aberlour Abunadh...  un-peated, aged in sherry casks...  it's brilliant! 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on February 28, 2019, 12:05:32 pm
I miss the good old days of Highland Park 18 before the price skyrocketed and the stopped offering it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 28, 2019, 12:20:38 pm
No...  I think it was a Glenmorangie...   Blue Label is tasty too though!  But it's over $300 here in BC!!

I don't mind Smokehead...  I had a "peaty phase" I went through for a while...    their slogan is "definitely not for everyone"...   so I can't really blame you for not liking it!   ;D

Have a dram for me!!  I suggest Aberlour Abunadh...  un-peated, aged in sherry casks...  it's brilliant!

I have had that brand and I quite like it. One routing I used to travel for work had me overnighting in Dubai, and I was (pleasantly) surprised that not only did the airport there have a very well stocked duty free liquor store, including many scotch brands, they were roughly half the price in other duty frees, but you could buy it and take it with you to your hotel. I often bought one that I hadn't tried before, which of course made the whole process something of a scientific social experiment. And of course my grandparents emigrated from Scotland so I was also honoring my ancestry. And that's how I discovered Smokehead. It was a bit too peaty for me but I was able to get through a 40 pounder so I'm adaptable.

Cheers
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2019, 12:56:29 pm
Speaking of personal stuff, knock it off with the annoying Private Messages, Waldo.  Grow up.

don't say messages, plural - you have my permission to quote my only message sent to you - the one that simply stated your trolling is lame-assed; that you need to try harder!

fwiw: I used to never bother looking at the rating tags given - it's only when I started to see 'dumb' tags for the most non-partisan, information only posts... as in, damn who would give that a 'dumb' rating, it's just information. Well, that would be you!

Another respected member just said it better and openly:

The persistent use of the "Dumb" rating by a certain individual, stands as a banner in his personal army that says, "I am right, you are wrong and I don't care why you think that way."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 28, 2019, 01:04:40 pm
don't say messages, plural - you have my permission to quote my only message sent to you - the one that simply stated your trolling is lame-assed; that you need to try harder!


Keep it on the forum. It's rather pathetic to harass users in PM. You should know better.  I may have to spank you as punishment.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 28, 2019, 01:23:25 pm

Keep it on the forum. It's rather pathetic to harass users in PM. You should know better.  I may have to spank you as punishment.

Um, I doubt you'll be able to do that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 01:53:42 pm
You're both trolls, unfortunately...  but I wouldn't waste my time to PM either of you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 02:38:58 pm
I miss the good old days of Highland Park 18 before the price skyrocketed and the stopped offering it.

That one is available in BC for $176...    >:(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on February 28, 2019, 02:57:38 pm


fwiw: I used to never bother looking at the rating tags given - it's only when I started to see 'dumb' tags for the most non-partisan, information only posts... as in, damn who would give that a 'dumb' rating, it's just information. Well, that would be you!

I didn't say I've never given the Dumb rating and I'm not saying nobody should ever give it.  I'm saying it shouldn't be used to harass someone by following them around the board, putting the Dumb rating on everything they post.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2019, 03:05:33 pm
I didn't say I've never given the Dumb rating and I'm not saying nobody should ever give it.  I'm saying it shouldn't be used to harass someone by following them around the board, putting the Dumb rating on everything they post.

I agree with you completely. What you quoted of mine was misplaced... it was meant to be said/apply to the Penis member! I've edited my post to remove any confusion (I caused). Yes, absolutely, both the Penis member and squiggy seem overly eager to apply the tag to... just about anything!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 28, 2019, 03:09:36 pm
I agree with you completely. What you quoted of mine was misplaced... it was meant to be said/apply to the Penis member! I've edited my post to remove any confusion (I caused). Yes, absolutely, both the Penis member and squiggy seem overly eager to apply the tag to... just about anything!

Apparently your spellchecker is unserviceable. ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 28, 2019, 04:50:56 pm
I can somewhat speak to VanCity rental costs, but I certainly can't speak to Toronto rental costs - are you sure? Given the projected absence of equity gain in housing for both cities, are you sure you can't find a (better/preferred) rental option to meet the needs of an extended family? Only asking in terms of wondering, generally, just how long you envision working; as in wanting to versus needing to?

I will have to work at least 15 years, I think.  Rental is a terrible situation, worse than buying.  Premier Dougie just helped 'the people' by removing another layer of rent control.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 04:55:36 pm
I will have to work at least 15 years, I think.  Rental is a terrible situation, worse than buying.  Premier Dougie just helped 'the people' by removing another layer of rent control.

Hopefully you've left some room for increased interest rates in your payment calculations...  it probably won't stay this low forever... 

They say ~28% of your gross income should go into your mortgage at maximum.  I think I did more than that, but I maxxed out what I paid as much as I could afford to get it paid off earlier. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 28, 2019, 05:10:33 pm
'They' say 44% now.

We will lock in for 5 years after which we'll have about 50K more to spend on housing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 28, 2019, 05:40:23 pm
'They' say 44% now.

We will lock in for 5 years after which we'll have about 50K more to spend on housing.

"They" must be a bank!   Yikes...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 28, 2019, 06:56:35 pm
"They" must be a bank!   Yikes...

Mortgage Broker says it's the CMHC limit. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 28, 2019, 07:52:23 pm
You're both trolls, unfortunately...  but I wouldn't waste my time to PM either of you.

I'd rather you did not PM me. I've already had one traumatic experience with an individual harassing me in PM. I'm touchy when it happens.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on February 28, 2019, 07:57:46 pm
I'd rather you did not PM me. I've already had one traumatic experience with an individual harassing me in PM. I'm touchy when it happens.

To save yourself the trauma, why don't you go to Settings and turn off the PM function?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on February 28, 2019, 10:41:32 pm
To save yourself the trauma, why don't you go to Settings and turn off the PM function?

I did not know that.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 01, 2019, 02:00:09 am
Mortgage Broker says it's the CMHC limit.

The CMHC doesn’t set limits for how much of your income goes towards mortgage payments...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 01, 2019, 05:21:05 am
The CMHC doesn’t set limits for how much of your income goes towards mortgage payments...

There's some kind of suggestion or guideline.  I'm new at this so I'm trusting my mortgage broker, who has helped a dear friend as well as two siblings through it.

We got approved for $880K mortgage, so a house of $1M. 

Last night I realized I was getting sucked into the game.  I am going to start aiming lower, much lower.  Aaand... I will now have a 10-15 minute longer commute.

Is that so bad ?   ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on March 01, 2019, 06:12:37 am
That one is available in BC for $176...    >:(
oh that’s not bad. Last time I found it in NB it was pushing $400 a bottle.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 01, 2019, 10:33:22 am
oh that’s not bad. Last time I found it in NB it was pushing $400 a bottle.

Whoah!   That’s outrageous!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on March 01, 2019, 01:00:11 pm
I'd rather you did not PM me. I've already had one traumatic experience with an individual harassing me in PM. I'm touchy when it happens.

Facing fears in a gradual and consistent manner is the most effective way to overcome fears and phobias and is called “exposure”. This process involves gradually and repeatedly exposing yourself to the feared object or situation in a safe and controlled way. You learn to “ride out” the anxiety and distress until the anxiety passes.

ref: Anxiety Canada (https://www.anxietycanada.com/adults/exposure-therapy-specific-phobia)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on March 01, 2019, 02:19:36 pm
Hey, wanna make a quick million? Just go track down Bin Laden's sons location and the US State Department has a prize for you. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 02, 2019, 12:27:10 pm
I'm sometimes amazed at how completely inept some people are at reading the room.

Last week was incredibly stressful around the office. Me and the Minions were working as fast as we could to get big orders ready to ship. Good Boss Greg and Engineer Ed were busy trying to get a new product ready ahead of a deadline.  One of the directors and our sales guy were getting a bunch of stuff ready ahead of a big trade show. And in the middle of all of this, Ted Technician is wandering around being a know-it-all and bothering people about stuff that was low priority.  Boring Stories Bob is blathering away to people who have too much to do to waste time interacting with him.  Old Economy Steve is wandering around trying to turn his low-priority issues into high-priority issues. 

I'm amazed that nobody was killed.  Ted Technician came close a couple of times, I think.  The director was swearing about him after he left.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 02, 2019, 05:08:15 pm
Grandpa bragging again. Spent the last two days whatching grand daughter #2 play rugby in Vegas. BC Elite1, USA Sevens U16 girls champions.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 03, 2019, 11:48:39 am
Yay!  Hope you had a good time.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 03, 2019, 04:54:10 pm
Yay!  Hope you had a good time.

 -k

I enjoy watching the kids play but no longer much of a fan of Las Vegas. I liked it when I was younger but now I just find it crowded, noisy and expensive. It used to be a cheap holiday but everything is an arm and a leg these days. No longer a place I would chose for a holiday.

The won all their games big except for the final in which they came up against a well matched team. They were down by four points but pulled out a tri in the last minute and won by three.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 03, 2019, 07:40:07 pm
House search is getting depressing.  I guess we almost got one but were out manoeuvred maybe ....

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 04, 2019, 12:47:30 pm
House search is getting depressing.  I guess we almost got one but were out manoeuvred maybe ....

It took me months to find a house...  but I wouldn't budge from my budget...  and it was more of a buyer's market probably.

Wanted to go fishing this weekend...   installed a laundry sink instead...  :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on March 04, 2019, 02:08:58 pm
Hey if you're thinking about heading south to Mexico for a winter escape, you won't have to take the chance of taking your pot with you, you can get it legally there now. I bet they have good product too.

https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2019/02/mexico-legalizes-marijuana-for-recreational-purposes/?fbclid=IwAR1QYIQJ3Lj2FUbYUoRLiXf1SUua6QRItPffLKASxKZeBNbepF9AO7sm9W8
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 08, 2019, 07:57:34 am

Ok, so the job turned bad.  My boss got me a new opportunity which is exciting and a chance to get off my dud of a project.  My (internal) client had blocked my transfer off the project last November, pulling out the stops.  I knew that there was a lot of politics happening a few levels up and I was another pawn in that battle so I let it go.  Those fights have settled down and my boss said there would be no impediments to moving me off.  But she, my internal client, did it again.

So I'm stuck in a glorified assistant position now, where I'm supposed to be doing basic Agile management to learn it from the ground up.  Instead, I'm just reminding people to update documents etc.  This was all supposed to end February 1.

So I am stuck.  And I can't leave.  I looked up what to do when you're stuck in a job on Google and a bunch of articles that said make the best of it.  I feel like I can't be fake, though, which means my unhappiness will be visible to everyone.  As such, I think I have to explain my feelings about this to my client and move on.

It will be hard to not passive-aggressively scuttle the project.

Thoughts or advices ?  Please be aware that I am unlikely to have NOT thought of anything you suggested.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 09, 2019, 12:21:45 pm
Sounds frustrating. Can't offer any advice though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 09, 2019, 12:31:07 pm
More grandpa bragging. Youngest grand daughter's BC white team won U16 girls at the Vancouver Sevens yesterday. Took a knock on the head and is under concussion protocol now. Feels fine though. Oldest grand daughter's U18 team came second in their division, the Fraser Valley girls losing in the final to the Rugby Canada U18 development team which they narrowly beat in the pool play. She is playing at BC place at noon for UBC in an exhibition game at the big tournament but I can't get the live stream on CBC because we are in the US right now and it isn't on satellite. I'm pissed.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 09, 2019, 01:28:15 pm
Ok, so the job turned bad.  My boss got me a new opportunity which is exciting and a chance to get off my dud of a project.  My (internal) client had blocked my transfer off the project last November, pulling out the stops.  I knew that there was a lot of politics happening a few levels up and I was another pawn in that battle so I let it go.  Those fights have settled down and my boss said there would be no impediments to moving me off.  But she, my internal client, did it again.

Has she given an explanation for why she blocked your transfer?  Seems weird that someone else in the organization has the power to stop your transfer if the boss has approved it.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on March 09, 2019, 01:39:40 pm
As such, I think I have to explain my feelings about this to my client and move on.

It will be hard to not passive-aggressively scuttle the project.

Thoughts or advices ?  Please be aware that I am unlikely to have NOT thought of anything you suggested.

are you confident in your skills/resume and does the Toronto (area) have real PM jobs wanting? If not, can you afford/stand to be out of work for a while? Ever tried stepping outside your own consult to work for an actual IT consulting firm... even if you warm the bench for a while/occasionally?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 10, 2019, 10:05:24 am
Has she given an explanation for why she blocked your transfer?  Seems weird that someone else in the organization has the power to stop your transfer if the boss has approved it.

 -k

She's my internal client.  I didn't get a reason from her yet but I know it will be because I'm critical to the success of the project I am leaving or somesuch. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 10, 2019, 10:07:14 am
are you confident in your skills/resume and does the Toronto (area) have real PM jobs wanting? If not, can you afford/stand to be out of work for a while? Ever tried stepping outside your own consult to work for an actual IT consulting firm... even if you warm the bench for a while/occasionally?

I can't be out of work for awhile.  I was self-employed before this and am more naturally suited to that work and the higher pay levels and tax advantages.  But I am the sole breadwinner right now and a recession may be in the winds too.

I feel like I have to bite the bullet and smile through this bullshit.  I hate the idea of faking it but I don't want to leave.  I feel pretty powerless.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 11, 2019, 08:25:46 pm
Got an offer accepted.  Inspector said it's got problems so we're back at square one.  Baby is teething. 

I keep wondering that if I did this in my twenties, would I have been different ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 11, 2019, 08:33:49 pm
What sort of problems?
Every house has problems. Or it will soon.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 11, 2019, 09:27:46 pm
Foundation work needed.  Cost unknown.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 11, 2019, 10:06:22 pm
Foundation work needed.  Cost unknown.
Doesn't sound good.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 12, 2019, 06:12:24 am
Doesn't sound good.

So we lowered our offer by $50K - as the repairs are ballparked at 1/2 that.  That would also provide us with a much-needed rainy day fund.

No response yet.

And - when it rains it pours - the lady who blocked me from leaving met with me yesterday and seems to think I didn't want to go.  I guess she forgot me fighting like hell to get away from her last fall.  She's delusional.  She pulled out all the stops and said my leaving would delay her project by six weeks - a lie.  She seems to think that she saved "us" by doing all of this and was strategizing how we together could prevent this from happening again.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 12, 2019, 07:28:58 am
What indicated it needed foundation work? Cracks upstairs above doorways from shifting, water seepage evidence, vertical cracks in the basement wall or horizontal cracks?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 12, 2019, 08:56:07 am
Driveway sloping towards house.  Cracks
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 12, 2019, 09:23:05 am
Driveway sloping towards house.  Cracks
Sounds like the house settled, which wouldn't be such a big deal I don't think, but having the driveway directing all the water back to the house in a rainstorm would be a problem. Maybe it's just the driveway that sunk? If the doors and windows still close easily and water isn't leaking in, you might be able to get away with just mudjacking the driveway. But if your inspector told you it's the house, it probably is. Is he recommending putting piles underneath and raising the house again? I think that would be a lot more than $25k.
Both houses I've owned were full of cracks from settling. There is a big brick planter on my front porch that was practically split in two. But I patched it all up 14 years ago and the cracks haven't even opened back up yet. When it gets really hot in the summer, I sometimes have trouble opening and closing my front door though. I have to pull out the sander and make the door a little smaller every year.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 12, 2019, 04:47:37 pm
Sounds like the house settled, which wouldn't be such a big deal I don't think, but having the driveway directing all the water back to the house in a rainstorm would be a problem. Maybe it's just the driveway that sunk? If the doors and windows still close easily and water isn't leaking in, you might be able to get away with just mudjacking the driveway. But if your inspector told you it's the house, it probably is. Is he recommending putting piles underneath and raising the house again? I think that would be a lot more than $25k.

We passed on it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 24, 2019, 06:12:13 pm
Too much going on.... lost a house, got a house... a million different things flying around... renovations ?  yes but when ? corporate tax and income tax .... baby thriving ... wife is postpartem ... that was a long winter   :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 24, 2019, 10:14:40 pm
We passed on it.

Good, you don't want a house with water problems. Been there.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 24, 2019, 10:15:19 pm
Too much going on.... lost a house, got a house... a million different things flying around... renovations ?  yes but when ? corporate tax and income tax .... baby thriving ... wife is postpartem ... that was a long winter   :-\

Hang in there, you will survive.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 24, 2019, 11:00:08 pm
wife is postpartem

  :(  I hope she is doing better. I don't know much about it, but I have heard that can be pretty serious.  I am glad she has you for support.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 25, 2019, 04:45:44 am
Good, you don't want a house with water problems. Been there.

Yeah the new one just has some bad roof shingles.  I am 100% sure we are in for a real estate crash but if she can hold her value 5 years we'll move.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 25, 2019, 04:46:09 am
Hang in there, you will survive.

Thanks.  I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 25, 2019, 04:47:20 am
  :(  I hope she is doing better. I don't know much about it, but I have heard that can be pretty serious.  I am glad she has you for support.

 -k

She just gets very weepy ... also she's coming off some drugs that have depression as a withdrawal symptom.  There's nothing I can do for her but be there so I'm trying to stay offline more, except maybe here... in the morning when they're asleep.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 26, 2019, 06:17:10 am
Took baby to a bar last night... a birthday party for one of the old burners... lots of smiles and he really seemed to like the place.  And why not ?  Not too noisy, no smoke... It was really lovely to see people who are "baby people" melting with our little cutie.  Headed home by 8 pm...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 28, 2019, 01:39:20 pm
I'm touring Europe with the family for the first time ever. Did 4 days in London and then took the train to Amsterdam this morning. Just got back from the Anne Frank house and sitting on the balcony of a delightful b&b. I'm exhausted from walking and figure I'll take a canal tour and rent bikes tomorrow.  My feet are sore.
Then it's on to Paris. I've never gotten around to coming here before but London was awesome. I should have moved there years ago.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 28, 2019, 08:15:02 pm
Wow - great for you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 28, 2019, 09:42:06 pm
I'm touring the Far north for a few days.  Europe sounds more fun and warmer.  Supposed to be -11 tonight.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on March 28, 2019, 09:48:58 pm
I'm touring the Far north for a few days.  Europe sounds more fun and warmer.  Supposed to be -11 tonight.

How far north if I may ask?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 28, 2019, 10:13:04 pm
How far north if I may ask?

Yellowknife.

Ok...  Not quite the FAR north... 

Not the nicest town, but there's some history here.  Visiting friends....   Taking photos.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on March 28, 2019, 10:19:14 pm
Yellowknife.

Ok...  Not quite the FAR north... 

Not the nicest town, but there's some history here.  Visiting friends....   Taking photos.

Been there a number of times myself. Are you gonna try a little gold panning? Safe journey.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 28, 2019, 10:38:17 pm
Been there a number of times myself. Are you gonna try a little gold panning? Safe journey.

Haven't tried goldpanning.   Where does one do this?

Logjohn Jamboree is happening up here.  Always something going on!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on March 28, 2019, 10:45:59 pm
Haven't tried goldpanning.   Where does one do this?

Logjohn Jamboree is happening up here.  Always something going on!

Maybe they have dug all the gold up by now. I haven't been there for that Jamboree but I did arrive my first visit to Whitehorse the very first day of the Sourdough Rendezvous. Now that was fun. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 31, 2019, 06:24:41 pm
I will be getting a new boss soon, as Production Chief Pete is retiring.  I had been wondering if I might be taking over Pete's job, but I won't be, which is kind of a relief because there's a lot of stuff that I don't know.  The new guy will be an outsider.

I have been working with Engineer Ed a lot recently.  Ed's time is extremely valuable.  Good Boss Greg is the brains behind most of our products, but Ed is the detail man... he turns Greg's ideas into real products.  So when the two of them get to work on projects together, it adds lots of value to the company.  Me, on the other hand, mere pennies, really.  So to help free up Ed to do more things I've taken on some of his more menial tasks.  It's quite exciting, because even though I'm not one of the smart people, at least I get to work with them.

The Minions have not needed a lot of beating on lately.  Alpha Minion still wanders into my cubicle emanating a billowing cloud of toxic cigarette smoke just about every day. Beta Minion still has to be yelled at for daydreaming once in a while, and she seems to be developing a bit of a nose picking problem. I'm not sure if I should interfere in that... it's her nose. It's her finger. I don't know if I should say anything. Milton Minion has been more conversant lately, and seems to have recovered from the trauma of the nipples incident. His grooming has even improved.

Now that spring has arrived I have started jogging and biking again.  The jogging is not going well... after a winter of inactivity my lungs are really struggling.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 10, 2019, 05:48:53 am
Just had a friend over... and we realized the last time we saw each other was a big show we did 2 years ago... drinking and smoking cigarettes afterwards until 3 am...

Now he's been diagnosed with heart condition and us diagnosed with a baby :D we had a no-salt dinner, no booze, no cigarettes.  Things change pretty quickly.   2 years isn't "quick" but for a change like this it is.

I can actually feel myself getting boring.  I feel fulfilled and contented but I have empathy for a whole different approach to life now - slower and more careful. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 10, 2019, 01:11:35 pm
NO BOOZE!
 
There's no salt in booze.
Are you just being sympathetic because Mrs. Mike is breast feeding?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 10, 2019, 01:45:05 pm
I generally feel bad, yes.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on April 10, 2019, 04:22:07 pm
I'm glad to report that at least some of the bulbs I planted last fall seem to have survived the squirrels and are peeking out of the ground. Whew!
That'll keep me contented for years.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 13, 2019, 02:52:47 am
Congratulations on your budding garden!

I don't have a garden, but I do have a potted plant that somehow hasn't died yet.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 13, 2019, 03:56:18 am
This week I noticed a high-pitched whining sound around the office, and I thought something might be wrong, but it turned out it was just Ted Technician back from vacation.  It was so relaxing while he was away.

Production Chief Pete's replacement quit before he even started, so we're kind of in a jam.  We've got another guy lined up, but Pete is leaving soon and the new guy won't be here in time to train with him.

Spending more time working with Engineer Ed has been interesting.  He is giving me bite-sized tasks that I can do for him while he works on other things. I have noticed that he has some sort of quality that makes people want to suck up to him. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but people just seem to want to make him happy. I am not exactly sure why. My own Minions seem to suck up to him more than they suck up to me, which sort of annoys me.  I think part of it is that they're used to me complaining about them, whereas if Ed comes to the Minion Cage to talk to them in person it means they've fucked up big time and they feel they're in trouble.  Pete and I have drilled into their tiny brains that wasting Ed's time by screwing up is a bad thing.  Also it could be that like me they suspect that beneath Ed's calm exterior is an axe-murderer who could snap, and they don't want to be the first dismembered corpse in his freezer. (although I suspect that honor is reserved for Ted.)  But there's more.  They seem to want his approval. They seem to want to score brownie-points with him.  Alpha Minion will go to him with a check-list of things that he doesn't really need to check over. Beta Minion will go to him to ask the dumbest questions, sometimes about stuff like the coffee machine making weird sounds. Why does she need to ask him about the coffee machine making weird sounds?  I don't get it. He's okay with people, but not in a way that ought to make the Minions want to suck up to him.  I feel somewhat agitated about this. They're my Minions, they should be sucking up to me.


I met the most fascinating woman last night at the bar.  She works at some sort of a web thing. I asked what she did there, and she sort of low-key mentioned that she's the CEO. I cyber-stalked her when I got home and discovered she's also a published photographer. She's heterosexual... she mentioned her boyfriend several times while we were chatting. When people do that it sometimes makes me feel self-conscious... like, did she mention that specifically to let me know that she's not into me? If she did, why did she feel she had to? Did I give the impression that I was into her?  I totally was, but I wasn't trying to pick her up.  I still feel all tingly from talking with her, even 24 hours later.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 13, 2019, 09:12:43 am
Life as s Kimmy continues.  Are you still seeing that last lady?

I am ramping up for moving to the new house...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 13, 2019, 01:14:14 pm
Hard to find properly grateful minions these days.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 13, 2019, 02:13:40 pm
They're my Minions, they should be sucking up to me.

Minion envy
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 17, 2019, 11:08:00 pm
Minion envy

More than ever.  I have been usurped. Dethroned.  Deposed.  There has been a Minion uprising, and Alpha Minion has claimed my kingdom. She is now the Minion Queen.  I am left with nothing. Stripped of my territories, exiled to the cramped confines of my own cubicle.

This coup d'etat was part of the ongoing shuffling of the production department, as Production Chief Pete prepares for retirement. Pete's replacement is now on site and training, and it was decided that promoting Alpha Minion to a supervisory position would be one of the things we do to divide up the workload that Pete leaves behind.  Shuffling me out of that role seems counter-intuitive, but it was felt that giving Alpha a more supervisory role and dividing Pete's work between her and Replacement Pete would be the best way to go. 

As for me I move into a role that's more closely aligned with Good Boss Greg and Engineer Ed.  We produce massive amounts of documentation, processes, procedures, reports, and that sort of thing.  I'm going to be assisting the smart-people with that so that they have more time to work on smart-people things.  Everything is very tightly controlled and even small changes need to be tracked through a quality process so that's going to be something I am doing from now on.  I'll still be producing document packages for the Minions' production work, but I won't be involved in their day to day shenanigans anymore.   Even though I won't be commanding Minions anymore, this is actually a step up for me in the sense that they're giving me more challenging work to do.  They liked what I've been doing on that side of the operation, and have decided to have me do it full time. So having my Minions taken away from me is kind of a promotion.

And if I'm lucky, it means I won't have to deal with Alpha's toxic aura of carcinogenic doom quite as often.  I will probably be dead at 45 from lung cancer caused by her second-hand smoke, while she lives to 102.


(https://i.imgur.com/wlfLnKV.jpg)
Pictured: Alpha Minion (center) with Milton Minion (left) and Beta Minion (right).


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 17, 2019, 11:09:53 pm
Life as s Kimmy continues.  Are you still seeing that last lady?

Yes, although I'm not sure there's a future in it.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 18, 2019, 06:38:11 am
Hmmm.... the work change doesn't sound too bad to me.

Oddly, I am starting to realize that the situation I have been trying to get OUT of at work may be better than the one I'm trying to get in to.  This comes after talking to the managers about how confused and demoralizing their leadership is.

Even though my client (let's call her Mindy Chang) is a task master and is not interested in new ways of managing, in general, she does listen to me.  And she really wants me to stay so I have been sneaking in said "new ways" and they're working.  (Side note - Mindy has an adorable accent and is 6 feet tall.  I have two 6 feet tall Asian women in my life.  I pride myself on valuing them as professionals even as I quiver inside).

So I had to tell Mindy that I am taking 6 weeks paid leave this summer to be with Joan and baby and since it's between our deliverables she didn't bat an eye.  I think the only think I need to do is get a $20K raise and I'm in my dream job.  I might be able to get $10K.

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On the home front, I got Joan to drive me to work the other day because the subway was down then suggested she just drop in to the doctor's office that's right near my work.  She's been depressed lately, and it's getting bad :( Our doctor phoned me a little white later saying that Joan has severe postpartem and we have to take it seriously. :(

So it's day by day ... but we're also moving next week so it's not a great time no sir.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 18, 2019, 07:42:34 pm
Hmmm.... the work change doesn't sound too bad to me.

Oddly, I am starting to realize that the situation I have been trying to get OUT of at work may be better than the one I'm trying to get in to.  This comes after talking to the managers about how confused and demoralizing their leadership is.

Even though my client (let's call her Mindy Chang) is a task master and is not interested in new ways of managing, in general, she does listen to me.  And she really wants me to stay so I have been sneaking in said "new ways" and they're working.  (Side note - Mindy has an adorable accent and is 6 feet tall.  I have two 6 feet tall Asian women in my life.  I pride myself on valuing them as professionals even as I quiver inside).

So I had to tell Mindy that I am taking 6 weeks paid leave this summer to be with Joan and baby and since it's between our deliverables she didn't bat an eye.  I think the only think I need to do is get a $20K raise and I'm in my dream job.  I might be able to get $10K.

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On the home front, I got Joan to drive me to work the other day because the subway was down then suggested she just drop in to the doctor's office that's right near my work.  She's been depressed lately, and it's getting bad :( Our doctor phoned me a little white later saying that Joan has severe postpartem and we have to take it seriously. :(

So it's day by day ... but we're also moving next week so it's not a great time no sir.

Sounds like you have a lot on your plate, look after each other and you will survive. Years ago I got home from a trip at 7 AM to find that my wife was in hospital having twins by caesarean, our dog had been poisoned and we were moving into a new home that day after moving back from YYZ. We just celebrated our 50th anniversary last month.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 19, 2019, 05:14:14 am
Hmmm.... the work change doesn't sound too bad to me.

It's pretty good. And yet being moved out of a supervisory position kind of feels like a demotion, since I don't have anybody reporting to me anymore. I've moved from the top of the Minion totem pole and am now at the bottom of the Smart-People totem pole. It's a better totem pole, but I've gone from the top to the bottom and while I like this work better it still sort of feels like a loss of status.  But it's a good move for me, and I feel like it's recognition that I can do a lot more than they anticipated when they hired me.   I also have to learn a lot.  I need to learn about quality process and regulatory stuff. 

Oddly, I am starting to realize that the situation I have been trying to get OUT of at work may be better than the one I'm trying to get in to.  This comes after talking to the managers about how confused and demoralizing their leadership is.

Even though my client (let's call her Mindy Chang) is a task master and is not interested in new ways of managing, in general, she does listen to me.  And she really wants me to stay so I have been sneaking in said "new ways" and they're working. 

Yay!  That sounds positive.

(Side note - Mindy has an adorable accent and is 6 feet tall.  I have two 6 feet tall Asian women in my life.  I pride myself on valuing them as professionals even as I quiver inside).

Mikaru!

So I had to tell Mindy that I am taking 6 weeks paid leave this summer to be with Joan and baby and since it's between our deliverables she didn't bat an eye.  I think the only think I need to do is get a $20K raise and I'm in my dream job.  I might be able to get $10K.

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On the home front, I got Joan to drive me to work the other day because the subway was down then suggested she just drop in to the doctor's office that's right near my work.  She's been depressed lately, and it's getting bad :( Our doctor phoned me a little white later saying that Joan has severe postpartem and we have to take it seriously. :(

So it's day by day ... but we're also moving next week so it's not a great time no sir.

This is heartbreaking to hear.  I hope things improve. On the bright side at least you and she are both on top of it, and understanding what you're up against and being able to reach out for help is a big part of the fight.   I think I've mentioned that I've struggled with depression at times in my life, and not knowing what was wrong and not knowing how to get help was probably the hardest part.  I'm very sorry that you and she are going through this.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 19, 2019, 07:24:58 am
It's pretty good. And yet being moved out of a supervisory position kind of feels like a demotion, since I don't have anybody reporting to me anymore. I've moved from the top of the Minion totem pole and am now at the bottom of the Smart-People totem pole. It's a better totem pole, but I've gone from the top to the bottom and while I like this work better it still sort of feels like a loss of status.  But it's a good move for me, and I feel like it's recognition that I can do a lot more than they anticipated when they hired me.   I also have to learn a lot.  I need to learn about quality process and regulatory stuff. 

I get it and have been there.  You can ask yourself "loss of status to whom ?".  Likely to people you don't care about right ?

The point is, they didn't want to lose you so they put you with the smarties.
 
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This is heartbreaking to hear.  I hope things improve. On the bright side at least you and she are both on top of it, and understanding what you're up against and being able to reach out for help is a big part of the fight.   I think I've mentioned that I've struggled with depression at times in my life, and not knowing what was wrong and not knowing how to get help was probably the hardest part.  I'm very sorry that you and she are going through this.

Our doctor (we have the same doctor) asked me to come in with her and it seems she (the doctor) was trying to convey that Joan had related some seriously dark thoughts to her.  That hit hard, but I was also not surprised somehow.  So now we're on track to do something we never thought we would - have her on antidepressant medication.  There are alternatives but the medication takes so long to kick in (4 months) that we have to start it now in case other things don't work.

Oh, did I mention we're moving next week ?     :P
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 20, 2019, 02:18:58 pm
Years ago I got home from a trip at 7 AM to find that my wife was in hospital having twins by caesarean
...
We just celebrated our 50th anniversary last month.

I had to reread the first part, I thought you had said "A year ago..."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 29, 2019, 06:21:20 am
Posting from my own home  :o
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 29, 2019, 08:23:23 am
Oh look! Carpenter ants!

Sorry. Just reliving when I first moved into my house with a little baby.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 29, 2019, 08:50:31 am
Oh look! Carpenter ants!

Sorry. Just reliving when I first moved into my house with a little baby.

Thanks 😊
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 29, 2019, 01:15:43 pm
I’m re-doing the back patio...   rolling on some grippy shit over the concrete.  Or will once I find the goddamn paint roller!  I know i have one.....    >:(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on April 29, 2019, 03:38:46 pm
I’m re-doing the back patio...   rolling on some grippy shit over the concrete.  Or will once I find the goddamn paint roller!  I know i have one.....    >:(
Is this code for sex things?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 29, 2019, 03:44:00 pm
Is this code for sex things?

I don’t think so.....   but I did find my paint roller.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on April 29, 2019, 04:05:00 pm
So, there's this girl - she's crazy about me, and has been for months.  The problem is that she's 18.  That's a big age gap, and it's made me very hesitant, especially considering what happened with the girl who was my now 22 year old fiancee (funny story about that at the end).

A week ago, she was out drinking with some friends.  One of the girls got behind the wheel, intoxicated.  The were driving far too fast down a gravel road, and rolled end over end multiple times.  The girl (the one who really likes me) wasn't wearing a seat-belt, and was ejected from the vehicle.  She was airlifted to Winnipeg and wasn't expected to survive due to a traumatic brain injury.  Surprisingly, other than that and a fractured vertebrae, she had barely a scratch on her. 

She's recovered much faster than expected.  Within two days they were able to take her out of the protective coma.  They won't need to due surgery, as the brain bleed has mostly stopped on its own and they believe it will stop.  She knows people and facts and general dates, and is becoming more herself every day.  I went to see her yesterday.  She can't yet stay awake that long, but yesterday was the best that she's been.  I asked her at the beginning if she knew who I was - she said she did, but couldn't tell me my name.  I left for a bit and came back.  I asked if she figured out who I was yet.  She told me yeah, you're John Taylor, and that's why I'm nervous and shy.  The nurse in the ICU asked if I was her boyfriend - I told her that I was just a friend.  Then the girl said (not realizing it was me sitting there) that she had a boyfriend, but he didn't want her - she was referring to me, and my hesitance over this.  Assuming she's going to make a full recovery, or most of one, I'm torn on what to do at this point.  Her family really likes me.  She really likes me.  My own family is far more hesitant because of my last relationship.

Speaking of my ex - I don't speak to her anymore.  I haven't in months.  She got her sister to call me, and tell me how much she regretted what she did, and that she realized she needed me in her life.  It didn't take long to realize that nothing had changed or ever would.  Last week she had her mom message me for the same reason.  I'm not even responding to that anymore.  I went back on Prozac to help with my obsessive tendencies, and it's helped me to fully get over her.  Now that I don't want her though, she can't seem to leave me alone.  Eventually I hope that she will. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 29, 2019, 05:28:47 pm
If I were you, I would hook up with her.  We only live once after all.  Do you have a pic of her?

PS...I am moving to the interlake next month.  What is Waterhen like?  It would be two hours away from where I will be
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 29, 2019, 06:08:31 pm
I just got back from 4 days of teenage dance competitions in Regina. Drove straight through. It was kind of fun, kind of grueling. Now I guess I have to watch Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 29, 2019, 06:13:20 pm
JMT - take it slow.  No need to rush things....   and girls with multiple injuries stuck in hospital beds probably shouldn’t be dating anyone.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on April 29, 2019, 08:49:18 pm
JMT - take it slow.  No need to rush things....   and girls with multiple injuries stuck in hospital beds probably shouldn’t be dating anyone.

Can I call you "Skippy?"
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on April 30, 2019, 12:48:03 am
JMT - take it slow.  No need to rush things....   and girls with multiple injuries stuck in hospital beds probably shouldn’t be dating anyone.

I wasn't planning to date her right this minute.  It's just that it's changed my perspective on things. I don't believe in fate or anything like that and I know I could find someone else, but sometimes maybe things do happen the way they do for a reason...maybe that's just dumb.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 30, 2019, 03:03:51 am
As warmer weather has arrived in Kim City, Milton Minion has taken to wearing shorts to work.  :'(

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 30, 2019, 05:18:03 am
Mindy Chang (my client kinda boss) texted me last night asking me to 'give her lunch'

Her english isn't the best but there are several ways to take that and eventually I figured out she wanted me to give her a REPORT by lunch.  Tense moments.  Work is still easy and we hit our first of two production milestones.  This agile stuff is working out in that the team is figuring out when they need to speak up and get me involved in problems and when they should fix 'em.

This is maybe my easiest job ever, which is damn great timing as personal front needs a lot of attention.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 30, 2019, 05:18:21 am
As warmer weather has arrived in Kim City, Milton Minion has taken to wearing shorts to work.  :'(

 -k

Bad visual.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on April 30, 2019, 10:27:24 am
As warmer weather has arrived in Kim City, Milton Minion has taken to wearing shorts to work.  :'(

 -k

It could be worse:
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on April 30, 2019, 10:41:27 am
So, there's this girl - she's crazy about me, and has been for months.  The problem is that she's 18.  That's a big age gap, and it's made me very hesitant, especially considering what happened with the girl who was my now 22 year old fiancee (funny story about that at the end)....
You know, just let things play out as they will. If you really like her, she really likes you, and her family really likes you....then just go with the flow. She sounds like she knows what she wants and is crazy about you. That's a hell of a lot more than i got from the stories of the other situation. Unless you really don't think you two are compatible.

You know what I think you should do? When she has recovered, you should literally talk to HER about this instead of us. Tell her exactly what you think of her and be completely open about your reservations and why you think you have them. How she handles that, I think, will answer a lot of questions for you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on April 30, 2019, 10:43:36 am
Mindy Chang (my client kinda boss) texted me last night asking me to 'give her lunch'
If the next installment of kimmy's story doesn't have you moonlighting as a Skip the Dishes driver delivering a pizza with EXTRA sausage to a woman who barely speaks English, I will be disappointed.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 30, 2019, 01:24:03 pm
Things I have learned the past 2 days:

Don’t wear your best Crocs when painting patios....  And your feet are going to have the same pattern as the holes in your crocs with textured stone-chip paint. 

Why does it take 34 trips to the hardware store?  Why can’t I just buy multiple brushes and rollers in the same trip? 

A bandana is important...  looks sexy too...   think Rambo...  but less ripped...  the sexiness is gone when you have paint all over your sweat pants though.  That’s all she sees when she comes home...  not the sexy bandana.... 

Cats who like to be by your side when you do stuff outside....  Before a project like this, shoot them.

You’ll get some dirt and debris on the patio while you’re painting it...   paint over that shit...  it’ll add nice texture. 

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 30, 2019, 03:54:29 pm
You have enough pairs of Crocs to have "best" Crocs?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 30, 2019, 03:59:56 pm
You have enough pairs of Crocs to have "best" Crocs?

I have Crocs with holes in the sole, but I keep them for use around the house & garden.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 30, 2019, 04:21:12 pm
Mostly, I’m a lesson for everyone to have this stuff done by a professional...   don’t be so cheap!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 30, 2019, 04:22:54 pm
Mostly, I’m a lesson for everyone to have this stuff done by a professional...   don’t be so cheap!

Unfortunately finding a competent professional is a problem, money does not guarantee that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 30, 2019, 04:26:50 pm
Unfortunately finding a competent professional is a problem, money does not guarantee that.

Very true!   Luckily, this is a very minor project...  Concrete slab patio is really basic.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 30, 2019, 06:22:57 pm
If the next installment of kimmy's story doesn't have you moonlighting as a Skip the Dishes driver delivering a pizza with EXTRA sausage to a woman who barely speaks English, I will be disappointed.

I am getting a vibe from Mindy.

1/10
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on April 30, 2019, 06:43:36 pm
Very true!   Luckily, this is a very minor project...  Concrete slab patio is really basic.

Never underestimate the ability of a contractor to f*ck up. A repaved driveway is really basic, yet my garage flooded afterwards.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 03, 2019, 06:04:14 am
We are in the new home and gradually getting out of boxes.

New system of labelling rooms

Version 1 - Room is stacked up with labelled boxes but room is not functional
Version 2 - Room is VERY basically functional (eg. living room has internet & TV plugged in, kitchen has access to sink and fridge between boxes etc.)
Version 3 - Room is functional but there are visible boxes and signs of moving everywhere
Version 4 - Room has no signs of moving; a stranger may think this is what the room looks like even if you know you will be rearranging it - SOON

Version 5 etc. are just rearrangements

We now have living room and kitchen and master bathroom in V4, baby bedroom and our bedroom in V3, spare room in V1 and basement in V2.  Best of all, the stressful parts of moving are done.  The crusty old landlord hasn't complained about the state of the old place, movers didn't lose anything or rip us off, no meltdowns.

Joan hasn't had a meltdown since last Saturday, so things are looking up.  In fact, we're going to take a break from taking care of ourselves to help another couple we know with a 1 year old - they're in bad shape as he was just laid off :(

Oh, and we've met neighbours.  Next door is a brown youngish tech guy and his wife.  Exactly my tribe.  Other side is old world Italian couple.  Also good.  And we met a 1-kid family but the kid is a teen.  Everybody seems thrilled we're not psychos and that we aren't going to renovate :D

So now we have to settle in to raising Easy, who is coming along nicely on his own, and getting into a routine.  Did I mention I'm taking 6 weeks off this summer ?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on May 03, 2019, 10:17:59 am
Everybody seems thrilled we're not psychos

You put on a good first impression
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on May 03, 2019, 02:31:48 pm
Never underestimate the ability of a contractor to f*ck up. A repaved driveway is really basic, yet my garage flooded afterwards.

That really sucks. Are they going to do anything about it?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 11, 2019, 01:19:58 pm
I took my Pathfinder in to the dealership for a mandatory airbag replacement.  While they had it there, they did a Free 87 Point Inspection and identified about $2400 of service they thought should be done.  I thanked them, took their list to my own mechanic, and asked them to look it over.   They did their own inspection, and of the $2400 of work the dealership wanted to do for me, they recommended exactly $0 of it.  I am very happy to have a mechanic that I trust.



Work has been very busy.  Production Chief Pete is officially retired now, but still comes in to work most days to train the people brought in to replace him.   He did so much different stuff that his job has been broken into 3 separate functions, with 2 new people. As I mentioned before I have been dethroned and exiled from the production group by Alpha Minion who has taken over as supervisor of the minions. We also hired an MRP guy and a lady who will do inventory and shipping/receiving. I find this lady incredibly grating. The day of her interview she came in wearing incredibly loud perfume that smelled like bubble-gum and everybody complained after she left. She got the job anyway but was apparently warned about the perfume because that has stopped.  She's a middle-aged woman who still wears jeans with embroidered back pockets. Yesterday she had on a blouse that had Harley Davidson embroidery all over it. She drives a truck with an energy drink logo sticker and a "straight outta Craptown" sticker on the back window.  (Craptown: the dodgy suburb on the east end of Kim City, full of grow-ops, wanna-be gangsters, real gangsters, and so on.)   She talks in this breathy voice that makes me think of a low-rent parody of a Marilyn Monroe character.  When she gets a text message, her phone announces in a very loud voice, "YOU GOT A MESSAGE FROM... MARK!"   She interrupts meetings without the slightest big of self awareness.

Greg, Ed, Tom: *discussing important big brain stuff.*
Brenda: "HI TOM I JUST NEED TO CHECK WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE I HAVE THE PACKAGING INSTRUCTIONS RIGHT THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?"
Tom: *goes to assist, returns a few minutes later.*
Greg, Ed, Tom: *back to discussing important big brain stuff.*
Brenda: "HI TOM CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE SHIPPING? THE FED-EX WEBSITE IS JUST SO CONFUSING YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?"

Perhaps once she is trained and used to how everything is supposed to work she won't need constant supervision, but I just have a feeling that her personality type is the sort of person who will continue to constantly interrupt everything. She just seems like the kind of person who thinks that whatever she's working on at that moment is the most important thing in the whole company, with no awareness that everybody else is working on things as well. Perhaps I am being overly judgmental and overly pessimistic, and perhaps this negativity is because she is pretty much my polar opposite in terms of personality. But I find her even more irritating than Old Economy Steve, and that's pretty irritating.  With all the changes going on at work, I am glad to have been shifted into this role where I spend most of my time doing work for Greg and Ed, because I feel more comfortable with them than I feel with the new and growing crowd in the production side.


Summer weather has arrived and I'm super happy about that. I am doing lots of outdoor stuff now.  Things with my special girl are going ok.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on May 11, 2019, 06:03:09 pm
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She got the job anyway...

Sounds like poor hiring practices by whomever did the hiring.   Was she the only applicant? 

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 11, 2019, 08:03:02 pm
FULL EMPLOYMENT
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on May 11, 2019, 08:31:49 pm
FULL EMPLOYMENT

Good point...  the unemployment rate in Kelowna is extremely low. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 12, 2019, 03:32:31 pm
Sounds like poor hiring practices by whomever did the hiring.   Was she the only applicant?

There were two other applicants. I don't know that she's a bad hire. Maybe she's got a great resume and lots of experience. All I really know is that I find her grating.

She might not annoy others as much as she annoys me. I'm more sensitive than most people. Stuff does get under my skin, partly for reasons relating to my anxiety issues.  I'm not 100% neurotypical,  I just have to cope as best I can.

But it still annoys me seeing her blunder into meetings without considering that she's wasting other peoples' time, and stuff like that.

And also I think that if you're 50+ and you're still driving around with an energy drink logo on your vehicle, you need to make some changes.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 12, 2019, 03:42:38 pm

1. But it still annoys me seeing her blunder into meetings without considering that she's wasting other peoples' time, and stuff like that.

2. And also I think that if you're 50+ and you're still driving around with an energy drink logo on your vehicle, you need to make some changes.
 
1. That's a red flag for me.  People who don't know the basics of office mechanics by that age are no-go.  We hire young people and some of the gals engage in that kind of 'club talk' ... saying things like 'girl' and so on ... it's fine but it's not corporate and eventually they seem to drop it.  You can be good at your job and rough around the edges but by 50 you're not really supposed to have 'potential'

2. I should get one of those.  My new drug is Monster Energy Drink No Sugar.  I drink one at 6 pm to get me to bedtime at 10 pm... :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 13, 2019, 06:10:50 am
New Holiday -> Mother's Day.

We had another family with kids visiting us.  The other dad and I went to McD's to get breakfast on Sunday.  "You'll learn to HATE mother's day" he said...  :D :D :D

Joan uncharacteristically laid out a set of demands Saturday evening: she did not want to tend to Junior or do ANY housework or anything on Sunday.  It turned out to be an easy enough day.  ( No small thanks to the first dishwasher either of us have ever owned. )  I even got a nap in !

Happy Mothers Day everybody.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 13, 2019, 07:48:52 am
I spent the weekend at a competitive teen dance competition. No, I am not a creep. I have a competitive teen dancer whom I spend well over $10k a year on, keeping her in dance shoes and costumes and classes and choreography and competition fees and travel. At least she did well in her many events ( tap, jazz, ballet, hiphop, contemporary, lyrical) so I won't have to put up with sad teenager for the next week till competitions continue next weekend.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 18, 2019, 01:20:34 pm
1. That's a red flag for me.  People who don't know the basics of office mechanics by that age are no-go.  We hire young people and some of the gals engage in that kind of 'club talk' ... saying things like 'girl' and so on ... it's fine but it's not corporate and eventually they seem to drop it.  You can be good at your job and rough around the edges but by 50 you're not really supposed to have 'potential'

I feel quite bad about this, because I know that at least some of my antipathy toward this person is based on prejudice. Her style of dress and the way she acts all just scream "trashy" to me, and bring out all sorts of negative feelings associated with that stereotype.

That said, she REALLY IS dumb. Yesterday lost of people took the day off and I ended up having to provide Brenda with all kinds of help, and most of it was help with stuff that anybody with an ounce of brains should have been able to figure out on their own.

"These aren't shipping documents. Fed Ex doesn't need these."
"Well they came out of the printer along with the other Fed Ex documents."
"These are Ed's test reports. They don't have anything to do with shipping."
"So Fed Ex doesn't need those?"
"No. Just the packing list and the pages that say Fed Ex on them."
"Ohhhhh.... those are for Ed?"
"Yes, those are for Ed. These are for the shipment."
"ohhhhh."
"..."
".... Should I give these to Ed?"
"Sure, why don't you go ahead and do that."
"Alright, I'll go do that..."
"..."
"HEY ED HERE ARE YOUR PRINT-OUTS HAHA I ALMOST SHIPPED THEM TO AUSTRALIA BY MISTAKE HAHA THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY FUNNY HAHA"

She's just soooooo   ...   




2. I should get one of those.  My new drug is Monster Energy Drink No Sugar.  I drink one at 6 pm to get me to bedtime at 10 pm... :D

Remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 18, 2019, 02:19:15 pm


Remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem.
 

I can't stay awake...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on May 18, 2019, 05:47:26 pm
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That said, she REALLY IS dumb.

Why did they hire her?   The boss must have been equally dumb.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 18, 2019, 05:53:09 pm
Why did they hire her?   The boss must have been equally dumb.

Labour shortage happening NOW....  :P
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on May 23, 2019, 07:50:57 am
I can't stay awake...
Maybe you need the sugar. Lol
Or, like most new parents, you just need more sleep.
Good luck with that.
 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 23, 2019, 08:00:36 am
Maybe you need the sugar. Lol
Or, like most new parents, you just need more sleep.
Good luck with that.
. Slept from 830 pm to 530 am Tuesday night 😀
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on May 23, 2019, 08:06:06 am
. Slept from 830 pm to 530 am Tuesday night 😀
Wow!
Lol
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 26, 2019, 08:08:30 pm



Remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem.
 

I saw my exact vehicle driving in my neighbourhood today - a white Dodge Caravan - with a Monster Energy sticker.  Thought of you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on May 29, 2019, 01:03:08 pm
I can honestly say that my personal life sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on May 29, 2019, 01:57:59 pm
I can honestly say that my personal life sucks.

Join the club. :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 29, 2019, 10:12:26 pm
Things haven't been going very well for my special girl at her job the past few months. Business was slow, so she had to reduce their hours and lay off some employees and remove some menu items, which resulted in business being even slower.  But with summer weather here, they've let her expand the hours again, and she has a new menu, and she's been creating new signage and decorations and stuff.  She's bursting with excitement and optimism.  She's the happiest I've seen her in months, back to her usual vivacious self... it reminds me why I fell for her in the first place.  I hope it works out... she'll be so disappointed if business doesn't improve.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on May 29, 2019, 10:23:39 pm
Join the club. :(

I got back together with my ex...so far it hasn’t made me feel better.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on May 29, 2019, 10:30:06 pm
I got back together with my ex...so far it hasn’t made me feel better.

Maybe try Plenty of Fish?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 29, 2019, 11:45:30 pm
Mikaru! Give Lunch!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on May 29, 2019, 11:53:51 pm
Maybe try Plenty of Fish?

If you want to date nice ladies and actually go on dates, try Bumble.  If you prefer slutty looking women, try Tinder.  If you like wasting your time, try Plenty of Fish.  If you prefer homoerotic butt-sex, try Grindr.  If you don't like getting laid, post on Canadian Political events 50x per day.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 30, 2019, 05:52:32 am
Things haven't been going very well for my special girl at her job the past few months. Business was slow, so she had to reduce their hours and lay off some employees and remove some menu items, which resulted in business being even slower.  But with summer weather here, they've let her expand the hours again, and she has a new menu, and she's been creating new signage and decorations and stuff.  She's bursting with excitement and optimism.  She's the happiest I've seen her in months, back to her usual vivacious self... it reminds me why I fell for her in the first place.  I hope it works out... she'll be so disappointed if business doesn't improve.

 -k

DUDE.  You are in a relationship.  You are holding her up ... you care. :) I hope it works out.

I have been carrying Joan for months now.  She's on medication for post-partem and her old self is coming back which means I have to deal with home fix-ups and re-arrangements instead of weepy bleakness.  I will take it.  Easy is healthy and cute and my annual review came in (as a full timer, weird) and was of course stellar.  Can't keep an old guy down.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 30, 2019, 07:03:51 am
The son of a woman my wife works with recently used Plenty of Fish to meet a girl. Unfortunately he then killed her in his basement.
Ah, Winnipeg. Don't ever change.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on May 30, 2019, 07:31:44 am
The son of a woman my wife works with recently used Plenty of Fish to meet a girl. Unfortunately he then killed her in his basement.
Ah, Winnipeg. Don't ever change.

Are you serious?  Was it in the news?

*edit I found it in the news. Apparently Christine Wood met the accused Brett Overby, in hopes of getting some drugs, and who knows what else.  He murdered her, and dumped her outside the city.

This is certainly not unique to Winnipeg. A few years back a man from Edmonton lured two men to his house garage, pretending to be a woman wanting sex. He murdered one of them and chopped up his body, and tried killing the second man, although he managed to escape and call police. Apparently, the man was obsessed with the TV show "Dexter."
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 30, 2019, 07:54:15 am
Apparently his mother is as nice a lady as you will ever meet.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 02, 2019, 08:47:16 am
I got back together with my ex...so far it hasn’t made me feel better.
You need some more self respect.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 02, 2019, 01:50:15 pm
You need some more self respect.

I broke up with her...she convinced me she had changed. I should have known better. People don’t.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on June 02, 2019, 07:11:24 pm
I broke up with her...she convinced me she had changed. I should have known better. People don’t.

Just do not be like me. I had a chance to be with a women I did not appreciate back in the day. Now that we reconnected after 20 years on Facebook, she is still everything I expected and more. Sadly she just moved to BC to see a man. Life seems unfair but play your cards right. Don't end up like me.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 03, 2019, 05:09:52 pm
Just do not be like me. I had a chance to be with a women I did not appreciate back in the day. Now that we reconnected after 20 years on Facebook, she is still everything I expected and more. Sadly she just moved to BC to see a man. Life seems unfair but play your cards right. Don't end up like me.

My ex is now addicted to cocaine and molly and stays up all night every night and sleeps every day.  Being beautiful and sweet at times doesn't make up for that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 03, 2019, 08:04:18 pm
My ex is now addicted to cocaine and molly and stays up all night every night and sleeps every day.  Being beautiful and sweet at times doesn't make up for that.

This really sounds like someone you need to get far away from.  Maybe even move ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 03, 2019, 10:26:33 pm
This really sounds like someone you need to get far away from.  Maybe even move ?

She lives 3 hours away from me.  Worse than that, to help her (I always try to 'save' her), I rescued her from her own stupid decisions in Edmonton.  She told me we would be together forever, and that she was just a stupid little girl who needed to learn.  Less than two weeks later, old habits were back.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 04, 2019, 05:58:41 am
She lives 3 hours away from me.  Worse than that, to help her (I always try to 'save' her), I rescued her from her own stupid decisions in Edmonton.  She told me we would be together forever, and that she was just a stupid little girl who needed to learn.  Less than two weeks later, old habits were back.

Yes, you need to get out of this.  Certain people fit into our lives really well and we're deceived to think that means they're good for us.  You can be with someone who is flawed but not fix 'damaged'.  She has to do that on her own.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on June 04, 2019, 07:25:26 am
Yes, you need to get out of this.  Certain people fit into our lives really well and we're deceived to think that means they're good for us.  You can be with someone who is flawed but not fix 'damaged'.  She has to do that on her own.

Send her to treatment. Ste Rose du Lac.has a treatment centre.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on June 04, 2019, 08:51:10 am
I broke up with her...she convinced me she had changed. I should have known better. People don’t.
Some people do change. This one didn't. Don't let this one make you cynical.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Pinus or Vid or...????? on June 04, 2019, 07:37:07 pm
The only problem here is that crazy women are insane in the bedroom.  I dated one for three years.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 06, 2019, 09:40:34 am
Happy Kim Day to everyone!  Do something fun to celebrate Kim Day!


On a more somber note, it is also the D-Day anniversary.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on June 06, 2019, 12:45:31 pm
Happy Kim Day to everyone!  Do something fun to celebrate Kim Day!


On a more somber note, it is also the D-Day anniversary.

 -k

First of all, happy Kim Day. Not sure what exactly that is but I wish you a happy one in any case.

Now to the more somber note. I would begin by saying that, while I am fully aware of just how lucky I am to live in this great country of Canada, I have never been what you might call a big flag waver. And then there is today. Having had the good fortune to have traveled through Europe, including France a number of times, and having been at the Vimy Memorial one time, I did discover a strong sense of patriotism, especially when I not only saw that monument, but also when I walked along local streets and saw Canadian flags displayed at local peoples houses, and nowhere near D-Day. France has not forgotten what happened on Juneau Beach, and the sacrifices Les Canadiennes made there. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on June 10, 2019, 11:16:55 am
My cat died at the vet today after spending 24 hours in respiratory distress.  I felt bad for leaving it that long.  As soon as they hooked her up to oxygen she died - probably finally able to relax.  It’s the outcome I expected when I looked up her condition anyway.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on June 10, 2019, 11:57:47 am
My cat died at the vet today aft t spending 24 hours in respiratory distress.  I felt bad for leaving it that long.  As soon as they hooked her up to oxygen she died - probably finally able to relax.  It’s the outcome I expected when I looked up her condition anyway.

I am sorry to hear that, and I know the feeling. I have an urn that sits on the mantle above my fireplace that holds the ashes of Archie, my old tabby. I watched him come into the world and enjoyed his company for 17 years. We do get attached to them for sure. Again my condolences.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 16, 2019, 07:19:42 am
My 1st Father's Day!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on June 16, 2019, 11:24:36 am
My 1st Father's Day!
Happy Fathers Day, MH!
Enjoy the moments.
😁
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on June 17, 2019, 05:54:06 pm
I am sorry to hear that, and I know the feeling. I have an urn that sits on the mantle above my fireplace that holds the ashes of Archie, my old tabby. I watched him come into the world and enjoyed his company for 17 years. We do get attached to them for sure. Again my condolences.

We still have the ashes of our last Lab. We keep saying we are going to spread them in a park where we used to take him but haven't got around to it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on June 17, 2019, 06:06:45 pm
We still have the ashes of our last Lab. We keep saying we are going to spread them in a park where we used to take him but haven't got around to it.

I'm sure he'll be happy at home, or in the park if/when you take him there. Both familiar turf.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: bcsapper on June 17, 2019, 09:30:34 pm
We still have the ashes of our last Lab. We keep saying we are going to spread them in a park where we used to take him but haven't got around to it.

In our house we have the ashes of two grandparents, an aunt, a Border Collie/English Sheepdog cross, an Australian Shepherd, and a cat.  We have no idea what to do with them, either.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 17, 2019, 10:16:32 pm
I was in Edmonton last week visiting my family.  Had a good talk with dad.  Managed to not punch mom's face in.  Visited with little brother.   Things are more normal now, I can see my family without drama or kung-fu happening.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 18, 2019, 05:59:30 am
Hoping its figurative Kung Fu.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 20, 2019, 08:57:20 pm
Hoping its figurative Kung Fu.

You're a sweet boy, Michael. Don't ever change.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on June 24, 2019, 03:54:36 am
My special girl was wondering why I don't do "kiss kissing". Meaning with lots of tongue.   So we spent about an hour doing that the other night. She thought it was wonderful.

I didn't want to tell her that I just don't like it.

I feel very strange about this. With all the other things I enjoy doing in bed, this is the thing that makes me uncomfortable. I don't get it. I find it slimy and gross and get no pleasure from it at all, and it even set off my gag reflex a couple of times the other night. I want to make her happy, and this seems important to her, but for me it's difficult.  I don't understand why everybody else seems to love this and I find it unpleasant.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 24, 2019, 05:28:51 am
I don't understand why everybody else seems to love this and I find it unpleasant.

 -k

There's no natural human drive to 'kiss'.  When I was young, it was exciting.  It's still a nice thing to do but... to do it for a long time ?

It's a gateway to other activities AFAIAC. 

I remember reading a survey of gay men and kissing and was surprised how many didn't want to kiss AT ALL.  ("I would rather suck *** **** than kiss him.")  But with people we care about we do things to make them happy. 

To pretend to be into it for a long time shows you are a giving person.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 25, 2019, 09:26:22 pm
Easy's got to learn to sleep through the night.  Stop cryin' little guy.   :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on June 27, 2019, 11:35:09 am
Easy's starting to sleep easy.  Starting to crawl though - uh oh.

I am in bliss, although our sex life alas has declined and I'm out of answers on that :(

And tomorrow is WFH then I'm on parental leave with Joan & E for almost 2 months :)

I can't complain (but sometimes I still do)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on July 03, 2019, 03:54:41 am
My special girl's brother and his family were in town this weekend, and she wanted me to meet them.  This was kind of weird for me, because I've never really thought she was very serious about "us".  Now she's introducing me to her family and talking about us like we're a couple. I've had a feeling from day one that I was just something she was into until she met her next boyfriend, but lately I've been wondering if this is more "real" than I thought and that is both exciting and scary.

So, we spent a day with her brother and his wife and their kids, which was kind of okay. Her brother is super-chill and didn't seem fazed at all. The sister-in-law is a bad-ass eastern European who talks like Natasha from the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.  I enjoyed talking with them.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on July 03, 2019, 07:50:53 am
My special girl's brother and his family were in town this weekend, and she wanted me to meet them.  This was kind of weird for me, because I've never really thought she was very serious about "us".  Now she's introducing me to her family and talking about us like we're a couple. I've had a feeling from day one that I was just something she was into until she met her next boyfriend, but lately I've been wondering if this is more "real" than I thought and that is both exciting and scary.

So, we spent a day with her brother and his wife and their kids, which was kind of okay. Her brother is super-chill and didn't seem fazed at all. The sister-in-law is a bad-ass eastern European who talks like Natasha from the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.  I enjoyed talking with them.

 -k

Very dry post for you.  Maybe this is a reflection of your realization ?  How do you feel about long-term relationships ?  What's the longest you have been in/longest you can see yourself in ?

I'm Catholic so we mate for life.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 03, 2019, 03:37:16 pm
My house is being renovated....   6 weeks of living in a camper...   :'(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on July 03, 2019, 04:24:54 pm
My house is being renovated....   6 weeks of living in a camper...   :'(

Hm ?  So... it's a vacation or ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 04, 2019, 01:01:21 am
Hm ?  So... it's a vacation or ?

No...  it’s living in a tiny cramped quarters in my front yard while my house is renovated.  Not a vacation.  Still working. 

1st world problems...  yes. 

Still sucks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on July 04, 2019, 02:10:29 am
So my ex asked me to marry her...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on July 04, 2019, 04:22:39 am
Very dry post for you.  Maybe this is a reflection of your realization ?  How do you feel about long-term relationships ?  What's the longest you have been in/longest you can see yourself in ?

I'm Catholic so we mate for life.

I was with my previous sweetie for about 5 years. And the one before that for also about 5 years. And my special guy for also about 5 years. (my relationships seem to have a predictable expiry date. hmm.)

Sometimes when I'm with her, I feel like things are good and I'd be okay if they stay like this.  Other times I find myself wondering if this is really what I want, or if I am "settling" or that sort of thing. And when I'm not with her I often find myself thinking about how much I miss Tanya or Karlene. And that leaves me wondering.  Maybe I'm just going through the motions. Maybe my heart isn't really in this.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on July 04, 2019, 04:23:12 am
So my ex asked me to marry her...

danger, Will Robinson! danger!


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on July 04, 2019, 06:51:46 am
danger, Will Robinson! danger!
 -k

The problem with this format of toxic relationship is that the good parts are SO good that they can seem to outweigh the very very bad parts.  :( Stay away JMT.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 04, 2019, 10:36:39 am
Day 3 of living like a savage...   went out for supper at the pub.

looks like the holes and wiring for the pot lights are in. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on July 07, 2019, 05:09:05 pm
Well that didn't work out well.  She asked me to marry her, but we're not dating....uhh
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on July 07, 2019, 06:09:29 pm
Wow, you guys lead complicated lives. What do you want JMT?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on July 07, 2019, 06:11:24 pm
What rooms are you renovating Squid?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on July 07, 2019, 08:25:28 pm
Wow, you guys lead complicated lives. What do you want JMT?

I just want the life the I used to have.  I don't think it's coming back though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 08, 2019, 02:48:50 am
What rooms are you renovating Squid?

Everything but the bedrooms and downstairs laundry room. 

Kitchen is completely gutted.  Will have new floors, ceilings , lighting...  moving fridge, new cabinets...  much more counter space....   living room - new floors, ceilings, lighting...   hallways - new floors, ceilings and lighting. 

It’ll be great when it’s done.  It’s a modest sized house....  so this will make a big difference, especially in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on July 08, 2019, 10:58:07 am
Everything but the bedrooms and downstairs laundry room. 

Kitchen is completely gutted.  Will have new floors, ceilings , lighting...  moving fridge, new cabinets...  much more counter space....   living room - new floors, ceilings, lighting...   hallways - new floors, ceilings and lighting. 

It’ll be great when it’s done.  It’s a modest sized house....  so this will make a big difference, especially in the kitchen.

Wow, You are going whole hog.  We had a kitchen and a  couple of bathrooms redone as well as a fireplace refaced a couple of years ago and that seemed like it took forever. 
Worth it though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on July 08, 2019, 01:04:44 pm
Everything but the bedrooms and downstairs laundry room. 

R U doing it yerself, or have hired contractor. If latter, it will be interesting to hear your experiences after things are done.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on July 08, 2019, 04:59:33 pm
I just want the life the I used to have.  I don't think it's coming back though.

With her?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 08, 2019, 06:09:05 pm
R U doing it yerself, or have hired contractor. If latter, it will be interesting to hear your experiences after things are done.

Latter.  Contractor.  The guy is good.  He's been around for years and I know a few people who had a variety of jobs done by this guy.  Not cheap though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on July 10, 2019, 06:03:32 am
So my ex asked me to marry her...
Dude.....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on July 10, 2019, 06:05:00 am
The problem with this format of toxic relationship is that the good parts are SO good that they can seem to outweigh the very very bad parts.  :( Stay away JMT.
The good parts SEEM so good because they’re put in relation to the bad part TA. The highs seem higher on a roller coaster that’s constantly dipping.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 11, 2019, 01:41:14 pm
Finally went to see Journey to Churchill at the Winnipeg zoo. Watching polar bears swim wrestle in the water, three feet away and on top of you is a very cool experience. And close eye contact with a predator that would gladly eat you is always fun.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on July 11, 2019, 01:55:11 pm
Did they play Don't Stop Believing at the last encore and did the bears stand up and block the view?

#rockconcertbearsbehavingbadly
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on July 11, 2019, 02:09:05 pm
Finally went to see Journey to Churchill at the Winnipeg zoo. Watching polar bears swim wrestle in the water, three feet away and on top of you is a very cool experience. And close eye contact with a predator that would gladly eat you is always fun.

Back in the day I was lucky enough to be hired to transport a couple of wildlife biologists to a huge Polar Bear denning ground a little way south east of Churchill MB. They would dart the mother and then crawl into the den to take a small blood sample from and observe the overhaul health of the cubs. They let me join them on a couple of these "home invasions" and what an interesting experience it was to have these lovely little playful creatures taking a break from snuggling up to mama to entertain visitors, and of course at the same time hoping that sedative keeps mom asleep. 

https://churchillscience.ca/about/the-churchill-area/polar-bears/



    "Arctic" is the Greek word for bear
    "Nanuk" is the Inuit word for polar bear
    Polar bear fur is white but their skin is black
    Polar bears have huge, webbed feet--their feet act as oars when swimming and as snowshoes when walking across thin ice
    Unlike black and brown bears, polar bears are not territorial

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on July 11, 2019, 03:46:14 pm
I hate zoos...   keeping large mammals that have ranges of hundreds of kms couped up in cages (or "habitats") is cruel. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 11, 2019, 07:27:25 pm
I tend to agree. Some are worse than others though. Putting bald eagles in cages and never letting them fly is a pretty raw deal for them.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on July 12, 2019, 05:52:17 am
The good parts SEEM so good because they’re put in relation to the bad part TA. The highs seem higher on a roller coaster that’s constantly dipping.

Yes.  Roller coaster relationships suck.  This is often a sign that someone in the relationship is batshit crazy, or the dynamics between the 2 people just don't work.  For life, stability and being content is best, and not having to struggle all the time to be happy.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on July 18, 2019, 02:27:05 pm
So today at work was our first monthly Lunch & Learn, hosted by the Communications department (me  :)  ).  Our IT team taught us how to create sandboxes and restore client databases.  I bought pails & shovels and little beach toys for everyone to take home.  The presenter gets to choose lunch - pizza today.

It went great, and we all learned something.

I'm still calling IT when and if I ever need to do either of those things, tho. :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on July 18, 2019, 02:29:54 pm
Now there's a wicked ping pong game going on outside my office.

We also work here sometimes.  Haha
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on July 18, 2019, 04:50:00 pm
So today at work was our first monthly Lunch & Learn, hosted by the Communications department (me  :)  ).  Our IT team taught us how to create sandboxes and restore client databases.  I bought pails & shovels and little beach toys for everyone to take home.  The presenter gets to choose lunch - pizza today.

It went great, and we all learned something.

I'm still calling IT when and if I ever need to do either of those things, tho. :D

There's nothing more important than having a healthy and fun work environment so you can enjoy going to work.  I'm glad things went well you and everyone had fun!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on July 18, 2019, 06:50:47 pm
People first, metrics second.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 06, 2019, 07:04:34 am
Took Easy to his first burningman event.  Our camp had 3 babies, and Easy was the youngest... also a bunch of elementary school kids.

3 nights camping... overall it was blissful but also the usual parenting stuff... screaming at 4 am in the tent, poo explosions at random times....

 :)

As much as I love this it does exhaust me.  And I don't think it would be a good idea to have a 2nd kid, realistically.  :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on August 06, 2019, 10:16:18 am
People first, metrics second.
This is something that I try to get across to students constantly. When you're looking at a spreadsheet of data, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that what you're looking at are real people with real lives and all of the complexity that comes along with that. I really try to get across that it's important not to dehumanize people through data.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 06, 2019, 11:32:39 am
This is something that I try to get across to students constantly. When you're looking at a spreadsheet of data, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that what you're looking at are real people with real lives and all of the complexity that comes along with that. I really try to get across that it's important not to dehumanize people through data.

Yep.  The flip side, though, is that people can focus too much on the social and humanized aspect of any endeavour and it's actually easy for it to lose sight of what its supposed to be achieving.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on August 06, 2019, 05:41:02 pm
Took Easy to his first burningman event.  Our camp had 3 babies, and Easy was the youngest... also a bunch of elementary school kids.

3 nights camping... overall it was blissful but also the usual parenting stuff... screaming at 4 am in the tent, poo explosions at random times....

 :)

As much as I love this it does exhaust me.  And I don't think it would be a good idea to have a 2nd kid, realistically.  :(
Let me just put in one word here for siblings: Ok, maybe a few words.
Siblings squabble, and you have to deal with that, but they squabble with each other. Lone children squabble with their parents.
Sibling play together. You don't always have to be looking for playmates, playgroups, activities as you do for a lone child, always running here and there.
And obviously, a sibling is a loved one lifelong.
I have an only child. She acquired 3 stepsisters as a teen, and I'm happy she did. And I'm glad I didn't have to raise them all. Lol
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on August 07, 2019, 09:40:14 am
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Quote from: cybercoma on Today at 10:16:18 am

This is something that I try to get across to students constantly. When you're looking at a spreadsheet of data, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that what you're looking at are real people with real lives and all of the complexity that comes along with that. I really try to get across that it's important not to dehumanize people through data.

Yep.  The flip side, though, is that people can focus too much on the social and humanized aspect of any endeavour and it's actually easy for it to lose sight of what its supposed to be achieving.

You guys are playing my song! Lol

We made graphs of distributions of data about children by stacking little 'child icons', reminding us/our audiences that the data represented real children.
And while percentages are useful for comparisons, we also translated them back into actual numbers of children represented. 1% might sound like a minuscule number, easy to dismiss/ignore/not address at all.
But it can still be a lot of kids/people and the raw numbers can really make that hit home.

I don't think you can have too much "social and humanized" focus, but I do think that those untrained and inexperienced in addressing those human issues can become overwhelmed by them. But I'm not sure what kind of "numbers" we're each talking about.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on August 07, 2019, 10:22:54 am
And I don't think it would be a good idea to have a 2nd kid, realistically.  :(

Due to circumstances, my kids are 7 years apart.  I wish they could have been closer together.  It made it so they were not as close as siblings should be.  When my son was 16 and driving and going out with friends, his sister was 9 and couldn't understand why she couldn't tag along with him all the time.  Even as adults, they're not particularly close.  He's married, kids, house, etc, while she is still just getting her life together.

I think 2-3 years between kids is perfect.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 07, 2019, 10:37:25 am
Did a show last night and had some particularly great show-stealing moments... and afterwards... a sort of 'groupie' seemed to be on to me.  She was totally my type, Reubenesque but also too young, maybe mid 20s... but it doesn't matter...

The great thing was that a cast member happened to be there and asked me something and I had occasion to show them a video of Easy at the event.  That had the desired effect, and groupie went on to #2. 

I really understand why/how middled-aged people have affairs.  I seem to have so many opportunities these days... it's pretty counter-intuitive.  To make even a semi-serious flirt would short-circuit my life, though, let's be clear. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 07, 2019, 07:59:38 pm
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As much as I love this it does exhaust me. 

I didn’t think you were part of the “me” generation...  but it certainly sounds like it.  Parenting has only been done about 9 billion times over this century alone....   gimme a break. ::)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 07, 2019, 08:21:12 pm
Uh huh.  You're the sympathetic type I see.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 07, 2019, 09:51:08 pm
Babies are particularly exhausting. Two-year-olds are fucking psychopaths though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 07, 2019, 10:02:49 pm
Babies are particularly exhausting. Two-year-olds are **** psychopaths though.

Thanks for the acknowledgement.  It's good to know that I can admit I am tired and some people won't call me 'selfish'.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 07, 2019, 10:21:58 pm
Has squid bred?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 08, 2019, 12:32:41 am
I feel quite bad about this, because I know that at least some of my antipathy toward this person is based on prejudice. Her style of dress and the way she acts all just scream "trashy" to me, and bring out all sorts of negative feelings associated with that stereotype.

That said, she REALLY IS dumb. Yesterday lost of people took the day off and I ended up having to provide Brenda with all kinds of help, and most of it was help with stuff that anybody with an ounce of brains should have been able to figure out on their own.

"These aren't shipping documents. Fed Ex doesn't need these."
"Well they came out of the printer along with the other Fed Ex documents."
"These are Ed's test reports. They don't have anything to do with shipping."
"So Fed Ex doesn't need those?"
"No. Just the packing list and the pages that say Fed Ex on them."
"Ohhhhh.... those are for Ed?"
"Yes, those are for Ed. These are for the shipment."
"ohhhhh."
"..."
".... Should I give these to Ed?"
"Sure, why don't you go ahead and do that."
"Alright, I'll go do that..."
"..."
"HEY ED HERE ARE YOUR PRINT-OUTS HAHA I ALMOST SHIPPED THEM TO AUSTRALIA BY MISTAKE HAHA THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY FUNNY HAHA"

She's just soooooo   ...   


....soooooo gone.  Brenda has been "yeet"-ed from the company.  I am not surprised it happened, I am only surprised it took this long.

Her answer to everything was either "ohhhh, I don't know how to do that," or "ohhhh, can you do that for me?"   Aside from burnt homemade cookies, she had little to contribute.  Her only noteworthy skills seemed to be avoiding work, getting other people to do her work, whining about how hard her job was, and clock-watching.  It was just about the 3 month anniversary of her arrival, and I guess 3 months of seeing her in action was enough.   While I take no pleasure in Brenda's misfortune, I'm somewhat relieved that sanity has prevailed.  She was bad for the company. She would have been bad for the company even if she was working for free.



My special girl has been super-affectionate lately. Lots of texts at random times, asking me to spend a day with her, inviting me to come meet whichever of her relatives are in town from Calgary, this sort of thing. It feels like she has become very invested in this, which is surprising for me because I had always assumed she'd dump me when she met her next boyfriend.  I entered this with the idea that I was disposable to her, and prevented myself from thinking this was more than temporary.  Now it feels like the opposite. Lately I have been thinking things over and wondering if this is really what I want or if I am just settling for something that was available when I needed it, and worrying that if this doesn't work out she might be really really hurt.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 05:21:46 am
Wow.  Brenda -> GONE !  What's yeeted ?

 ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 08, 2019, 06:10:31 am
"Yeet" is something going around the internet. I gather it means flung forcefully or discarded with great vigor.  I'm not sure exactly where it came from or why, but I wanted to use it so that I can be one of the cool kids.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 10:34:11 am
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poo explosions at random times....

Great...   more burning man poop in the desert....   just what the coyotes and scorpions need.


 I entered this with the idea that I was disposable to her, and prevented myself from thinking this was more than temporary.  Now it feels like the opposite. Lately I have been thinking things over and wondering if this is really what I want or if I am just settling for something that was available when I needed it, and worrying that if this doesn't work out she might be really really hurt.

I’m no couples counsellor, but have you thought of using discussion as a means to figure where this is going with this person who has you meeting her relatives like “you’re the one”?  I hear it has been used to great effect in other people’s relationships.... 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 12:13:58 pm
1) Great...   more burning man poop in the desert....   just what the coyotes and scorpions need.

2) I’m no couples counsellor, but have you thought of using discussion as a means to figure where this is going with this person who has you meeting her relatives like “you’re the one”?  I hear it has been used to great effect in other people’s relationships....

1) Ha... no.  3X wrong: no random disposal of poop, no desert, and there are no coyotes or scorpions in the black rock desert.  No bugs either.  They die.

2) Oh goody... let's get you to boss around lesbians now !!!  :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 01:07:30 pm
Where did I tell anyone what to do?

I think dialogue with one’s partner is a pretty fucking sensible thing to suggest as a possible solution.  No? 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 01:16:35 pm
Are you a lesbian?

Stop dick-splaining to others how to live

My wives and I live fine without your input 😉
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 01:42:20 pm
Are you a lesbian?

Stop dick-splaining to others how to live

My wives and I live fine without your input 😉

What the hell are you going on about?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 02:04:50 pm
What the hell are you going on about?

Ok, not a lesbian then.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 02:24:54 pm
Ok, not a lesbian then.

 If you have a point, get to it without the strange SJW riddles.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 03:19:23 pm
If you have a point, get to it without the strange SJW riddles.

Are you now or have you ever been a lesbian ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 03:47:47 pm
Are you now or have you ever been a lesbian ?

What difference would that make to my asking whether someone has tried talking to their partner about an issue?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 08, 2019, 04:27:04 pm
Are you now or have you ever been a lesbian ?

What the hell does being a lesbian have to do with anything? It is a relationship between two people.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 04:37:51 pm
What the hell does being a lesbian have to do with anything? It is a relationship between two people.

I would take advice from a lesbian about things and assess it on its merits, not based on the sexual orientation of the person who said it. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 05:52:25 pm
You guys are cray.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on August 08, 2019, 06:10:11 pm
You guys are cray.

As in fish?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 08, 2019, 07:37:27 pm
You guys are cray.

More twisted SJW riddles.  Please...   enlighten us as to how we are “cray”. Assertions are meaningless.  Backup your statement with something a little more substantive. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on August 08, 2019, 07:41:02 pm
Between this thread and gender I am totally out of popcorn. (Personal non gender popcorn of course)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 09:47:22 pm
More twisted SJW riddles.  Please...   enlighten us as to how we are “cray”. Assertions are meaningless.  Backup your statement with something a little more substantive.

An opinion, ie. that a straight male can fix a lesbian relationship because he knows SO MUCH that they haven't even thought of communication.  It's a crazy idea IMO.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 09:47:52 pm
Between this thread and gender I am totally out of popcorn. (Personal non gender popcorn of course)

It's NON-GENDERED-PARENT-CORN you pig.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 08, 2019, 09:55:42 pm
An opinion, ie. that a straight male can fix a lesbian relationship because he knows SO MUCH that they haven't even thought of communication.  It's a crazy idea IMO.

Interesting  you took it that way. I just thought he was suggesting that they talk about it, you know, instead of guessing. I didn't think he was volunteering to be a counsellor. Still don't.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 08, 2019, 10:05:14 pm
Interesting  you took it that way. I just thought he was suggesting that they talk about it, you know, instead of guessing. I didn't think he was volunteering to be a counsellor. Still don't.

Well, ok.  Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong... even the first time tonight...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 08, 2019, 11:08:37 pm
Well, ok.  Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong... even the first time tonight...

Wouldn't be the first time for me either but that's the way I took it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 09, 2019, 01:36:34 am
What the hell are you going on about?

Are you now or have you ever been a lesbian ?

Come on, guys, I hate seeing you fight.  Hug it out.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on August 09, 2019, 01:46:47 am
I’m no couples counsellor, but have you thought of using discussion as a means to figure where this is going with this person who has you meeting her relatives like “you’re the one”?  I hear it has been used to great effect in other people’s relationships....

I'm not sure how I'd start that conversation without causing her to panic...  If I try and express the idea that I'm not sure that "she's the one", she's going to think I've already decided that she isn't the one.  I feel like I have to figure out what I actually want before I try to have that conversation with her.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 09, 2019, 05:28:55 am
Come on, guys, I hate seeing you fight.  Hug it out.
 

*hug*
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 09, 2019, 05:30:11 am
I'm not sure how I'd start that conversation without causing her to panic...  If I try and express the idea that I'm not sure that "she's the one", she's going to think I've already decided that she isn't the one.  I feel like I have to figure out what I actually want before I try to have that conversation with her.

 -k

I was never able to handle that conversation - no matter which side I was on, no matter how I felt.  If I felt she was the one, I didn't want to show my cards.  If I didn't, I didn't want to scare her away.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 09, 2019, 05:36:04 am
So... one of the things that happens when you become a parent, besides finding all moms hot as hell, is that you have nothing to talk about except your kid. 

I am becoming almost a dull suburban dad, with nothing interesting to savour except for weekend trips to Canadian Tire.  CT, BTW, is one of the most fascinating things out there.  It's the retail version of a Coen Bros movie but I digress for sure.

Easy seems pretty into human food now, and is refusing to eat mush.  He also seems to be into music.  The keyboard on his schoenhut piano comes about to my knee.  Joan zip tied it to a railing in the living room, so he uses it to stand up and then pounds on it.  Well, he used to but now his musical sense is evolving and he plays one note at a time !  I responded with a reward for that, by playing Daft Punk for him, which he liked of course.  It's good.  We need a keyboard player.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2256/4721/files/Tom_Waits_56691d51-c910-4467-940f-9c5ec05fb247_700x.jpg?v=1547231042)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on August 09, 2019, 05:40:11 am
And my looong parental sojourn finishes when I return to work Monday.  In my time off, I watched Easy learn to crawl, eat solid food, climb up on things, wave to people and this morning he said 'dadda'.

Altogether now: awwwwwwww  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on August 09, 2019, 11:33:53 am
"Yeet" is something going around the internet. I gather it means flung forcefully or discarded with great vigor.  I'm not sure exactly where it came from or why, but I wanted to use it so that I can be one of the cool kids.

 -k
Yeet is the opposite of yoink
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on August 09, 2019, 12:00:50 pm
Oldest grand daughter left for Ireland yesterday to tour with the UBC women's rugby team. She's pumped for her first university experience.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on August 09, 2019, 12:04:35 pm
Oldest grand daughter left for Ireland yesterday to tour with the UBC women's rugby team. She's pumped for her first university experience.

Wow.  Good for her!  That must be exciting.  Hopefully they kick ass.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 04, 2019, 03:00:56 am
Oldest grand daughter left for Ireland yesterday to tour with the UBC women's rugby team. She's pumped for her first university experience.

How did the Ireland trip go?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 04, 2019, 03:09:04 am
So, the missus is out of a job for a couple of weeks. As I mentioned her place of work has not been doing very well. They've now been bought, by a more successful place who will be making changes to try to turn things around and are now closed for renovations and stuff. While they've promised to keep the servers, she's not sure if she's going to be kept on. She has a hunch she'll be replaced with a manager from the mother branch. She tries to pretend it's not a big deal for her, but she's a little tense.   She has her side-hustle, but I don't think it pays the bills. I might be more worried for her than she is for herself.  But if even clueless Brenda can get hired in this town, my girl ought to be okay.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 04, 2019, 05:37:52 am
Good luck to her.  Are you going to support her if she's unemployed ?  Or maybe pay for dinner ? 

The smart people are starting to defect from my group.  My boss left during my parental leave... the new boss wears a turban.  Seems like a nice guy, but he's a yes-man working for a yes-woman. 

So I have had a few days to try to figure out how to play it.  Unfortunately, my answer is to keep my head as low as possible and wait this out until the next regime change.  I have had 3 bosses in 1 year so it should be about 4 months.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on September 04, 2019, 12:58:48 pm
How did the Ireland trip go?

 -k

It went OK, they won two out of three but she wasn't very impressed with the way they played. They had a great time though, did a lot of touring, visited a lot of pubs (a rugby thing). She didn't play because she is coming back from a broken fibula she got in a game with a visiting Kiwi team last spring. The leg had been cleared to play just before they left but her game fitness wasn't back up to speed. All she could do was train with the team. She is now doing full contact.


Moved into her dorm a week ago and just had her first classes yesterday. Big change for a farm kid and she is very excited.

Hope things work out for your missus.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 06, 2019, 02:17:11 am
Good luck to her.  Are you going to support her if she's unemployed ?  Or maybe pay for dinner ? 

I hope it doesn't come to that.  We both like having our own space. If she moved in with me, it's possible we might not coexist very well.  If we ever move in together, I hope it's not because of financial trouble.  And I can't afford to pay her rent. I could help out if she asked me, but she's very independent and I think she'd hate asking for help from me or anybody else.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on September 08, 2019, 05:24:44 pm
Bad news on the rugby front. She had been told by her own doc she was good to go and had been working out with the team. She still had a lot of pain in her ankle so she went to see the UBC sports medics. They said there are three muscles in her ankle that aren't doing much and she shouldn't even even be running on it. So six more weeks of physio. The season just started and she is really missing playing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 08, 2019, 08:31:25 pm
I hope it doesn't come to that.  We both like having our own space. If she moved in with me, it's possible we might not coexist very well.  If we ever move in together, I hope it's not because of financial trouble.  And I can't afford to pay her rent. I could help out if she asked me, but she's very independent and I think she'd hate asking for help from me or anybody else.

 -k
 
At least there's EI.  Hopefully can hold her over until she finds a new job.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 08, 2019, 09:20:30 pm
We had a few parties this weekend.

Friday - gay male couple friends and their lady friend came over.  We love all of them and I have worked with him in shows.  He's getting targeted by a very shrill person who is accusing him of harbouring a problematic comedian.  Long story but anyway.  Lady friend seems to have got a boyfriend, which is great news as she is very cute and adorable at 50ish years old.  Never known her to have a guy.

Saturday - birthday party for a friend, and turns out that he lives 3 blocks away.  Lots of old burners there and kids including people Easy likes.

Saturday night Joanie and I and my brother played a street festival.  First night with Easy and a sitter.  It went ok but Joanie dropped her best buigar and cracked it.  Expensive night.

So we now think we will be able to go out on a real date.  Maybe a few weeks from now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 09, 2019, 07:24:29 am
I want to see 'once upon a time in hollywood' :D

Also - I need to get my exercise game back.  And ... I want to get my podcasting project back on track.   Ugh.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on September 09, 2019, 08:06:54 am
I want to see 'once upon a time in hollywood' :D

Fantastic movie!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 19, 2019, 12:55:43 pm
Home from work today with a bad cold. :(

My special girl came over last night with a basket full of goodies to help me feel better.  Like, an actual basket.  She must have grabbed just about everything off the shelf in the cold and flu section of the pharmacy.  It was so sweet. I was blown away. 

I gave her flowers last week. She got all emotional, but tried to hide it. She was going to say something but she couldn't and then she turned around and took some stuff out of her cupboard for a minute and turned and hugged me so that I couldn't see the tears in her eyes and wouldn't let go of me until she'd composed herself.   I'm not usually a flower buying person,  but I knew it would mean a lot to her. She'd told me a story about how she and her ex used to fight all the time and then he'd promise to make it up to her and buy her flowers and be a better person, and never actually did buy her flowers (or be a better person either).   Even though flowers are impractical and expensive and a big waste of money, it was worth it to see that reaction from her.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on September 19, 2019, 02:27:55 pm
Yippie the Rugby World Cup starts tomorrow
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 19, 2019, 07:27:32 pm
Fantastic movie!

In the movie theatre now... :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 20, 2019, 07:00:15 am
Well, Joan loved it but I was unable to watch the climax because of the dog attack.

(I have PTSD from a dog attack.)

As such I didn't have a full movie experience.  Other than that it was pretty lush.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 22, 2019, 12:49:04 pm
I've recovered enough that we were able to go to the burlesque show last night that we had tickets for. I'd never been to one before.  It was fun, but as two of my former girlfriends were strippers I felt that the artistry was a little less than the standard I'm used to. We bumped into some of my special girl's acquaintances who she isn't "out" to, and did the charade where we're just a couple of chicks out on the town. We have these encounters kind of worked out, where we don't actually have to communicate to know how much we're going to reveal when we meet people.

Feeling well enough to go back to work tomorrow. Terrified of what I'll find waiting for me.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on September 30, 2019, 04:18:14 am
The mountain of work waiting for me when I returned to work was daunting, but I prevailed. Still not over my illness, still feeling drained and tired.

My special girl still has a job.  She has been training with her new employer for the past week. Her place will not reopen for a few more weeks, so we are going on a vacation together!  I am excited, but nervous.  It will be the first time we've spent a whole week together non-stop, 24 hours a day. We may never want to speak again by the time we return.

 -k

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on September 30, 2019, 05:30:55 am
Only a few milestones left here.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 01, 2019, 12:46:55 am
Only a few milestones left here.

Our first vacation together... after this, who knows. Living together? Shopping for sensible shoes together? Joining a softball team together? Buying our first Subaru together?  It's all quite bewildering.



"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should practice kissing together."
"That's a great idea! Once we get boyfriends, we'll be so much better at kissing!"

...

"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should live together."
"That's a great idea! We'll save so much money!"

...

"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should have sex."
"That's a great idea! Once we get boyfriends, we'll be so good at making love!"

...

"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should get married."
"That's a great idea! There are so many tax strategies for married couples!"

...

"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should start a family together."
"That's a great idea! I want to have a baby before I get any older! Do you think your brother would be our sperm donor?"

...

"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we might be gay."
"..."


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 01, 2019, 06:55:12 am
U R GAY   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 01, 2019, 10:17:20 am
U R GAY   :D :D :D

I'm still not 100% sure she is.  She once told me she was flexitarian, and most of her relationships have been with men, and I could imagine her meeting some guy and dumping me.  I'm beginning to understand some of the issues bi people face.  People will label you based on your last relationship (or your next one) and not fully believe what you're doing right now is real.  And if she does dump me for some guy, I will probably sit there like a bitter bitch and say "I knew she was straight all along. I knew I was just a phase for her."

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 01, 2019, 12:25:12 pm
I'm still not 100% sure she is.  She once told me she was flexitarian, and most of her relationships have been with men, and I could imagine her meeting some guy and dumping me.

Would you be any more bitter if she dumped you for another woman?

While the sex might be different, is the emotional relationship any different between a straight and gay relationship? If she has had both, it might make an interesting conversation.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 03, 2019, 10:29:10 am
Would you be any more bitter if she dumped you for another woman?

That's a good question.  Being dumped always sucks.  If she left me for a woman, I'd probably feel jealousy and resentment... "what has she got that I haven't got" etc.  If she dumped me to go back to a heterosexual relationship, I think I'd feel a sense that I'd been used... that it was "just a phase" for her, or that she was just curious or experimenting or that sort of thing, that it was never real for her, that I'd been lied to.  They'd both suck, I don't know which would hurt more.

While the sex might be different, is the emotional relationship any different between a straight and gay relationship? If she has had both, it might make an interesting conversation.

For me, when I was with a man who I really cared for, he was 12 years older than me and he had this guardian, mentor, protector aura that I found really attractive.  He was a rock, an anchor, a fortress, (insert other cliches here), a calm and reassuring presence in what was otherwise a pretty confusing time for me.  I really did love him, and spent a long time trying to convince myself that I was heterosexual as a result.

I've never felt that same sort of dynamic with women I've been involved with. Or other men I've dated either, for that matter. I don't know how much of it was to do with him being a man, how much was to do with him being older and more emotionally secure, and how much was just his personality.    Some men have qualities that deeply appeal to me, emotionally, that I haven't found in female relationships.  Trying to make generalizations like "men be like this, and women be like that" never works, but I've never met a woman who had that guardian spirit that I felt with my long-time male companion.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 14, 2019, 03:25:56 pm
Kimmy! Kimmy! Fun! Vacation! Yay!

 We're back after a week together, and everything went very smoothly.  We went to the mountains and stayed at a resort overlooking a lake and went hiking and spelunking and relaxed in hot springs. Then to Edmonton, where we went shopping and hiking and stuff.  I briefly touched base with dad. Then on to Calgary to spend some time with her brother and his family.  Even though they live in Calgary, they're actually transplanted Torontoids.  Her brother is a big time corporate accountant of some sort. It was very interesting to hear his thoughts about the Alberta economy ("we're fucked"), Canada's overall fiscal situation ("we're fucked"), and the federal election ("I'm not a typical Alberta 'Trudeau sucks' kind of guy, but he's so dumb that I can't stand listening to anything he says. It makes me want to bang my head against a wall.")

My girl told me later, "my brother is a really smart, educated guy, so I was impressed that he was listening to what you were saying as if you were actually smart!"  I think she meant it as a compliment, but I'm just not sure.


"I hope this doesn't sound gay, but I think we should live together."
"That's a great idea! We'll save so much money!"
...and we received this advice from multiple sources. I think people are trying to score Cool LGBT-supportive Brother points, Sister-in-law points, or Supportive Dad points, as appropriate.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 14, 2019, 05:04:19 pm


My girl told me later, "my brother is a really smart, educated guy, so I was impressed that he was listening to what you were saying as if you were actually smart!"  I think she meant it as a compliment, but I'm just not sure.




Funny.

Quote
...and we received this advice from multiple sources. I think people are trying to score Cool LGBT-supportive Brother points, Sister-in-law points, or Supportive Dad points, as appropriate.


Maybe you are over complicating it and people just wish you well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 14, 2019, 05:56:52 pm
Yeah... but... FAMILY suggesting you move in ?  That's kind of a d*ck move for a family member to suggest such a thing no ?  I mean, they don't know the details of the situation.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 19, 2019, 08:55:33 am
Easy was crying last night, so I picked him up to cuddle him and he head-butted me, so we both fell on the bed screaming (he sleeps in a crib beside our bed).  This turned into a bunch of late night yelling between Joan and I and then crying and now I feel terrible.

The thing I hate is that there's nobody to talk to about this stuff...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 19, 2019, 11:27:02 am
Babies are selfish fucks who would never be tolerated if they weren't adorable.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on October 19, 2019, 01:15:02 pm
Babies are selfish fucks who would never be tolerated if they weren't adorable.

What about 73 year old babies who are anything but adorable?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 19, 2019, 04:00:53 pm
 crying babies ....    unheard of.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 19, 2019, 04:11:35 pm
What about 73 year old babies who are anything but adorable?

You mean that one I hear whining every day lately? Seems to waft in from the south?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on October 19, 2019, 04:19:13 pm
You mean that one I hear whining every day lately? Seems to waft in from the south?

Every.   Fucking.  Thread.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 20, 2019, 01:59:01 pm
Maybe you are over complicating it and people just wish you well.

I'm sure they do wish us well.  I just can't help feeling that they feel obliged to support us because they don't want to seem intolerant or something like that.  Like, if their sister had started dating some random man, I'm not sure they'd be as enthusiastic.  They might have some reservations and hope that she takes her time and be cautious. Mostly I think her brother and his wife just want her to know that they still love her and that her being in a same-sex relationship hasn't changed anything. Which is wonderful, but I'm not sure they're expressing it in the best way.

I know I'm overthinking this and I should just be grateful that her family aren't a bunch of bigots. They really are super-nice.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on October 20, 2019, 02:03:53 pm
I'm sure they do wish us well.  I just can't help feeling that they feel obliged to support us because they don't want to seem intolerant or something like that.  Like, if their sister had started dating some random man, I'm not sure they'd be as enthusiastic.  They might have some reservations and hope that she takes her time and be cautious. Mostly I think her brother and his wife just want her to know that they still love her and that her being in a same-sex relationship hasn't changed anything. Which is wonderful, but I'm not sure they're expressing it in the best way.

I know I'm overthinking this and I should just be grateful that her family aren't a bunch of bigots. They really are super-nice.

 -k

Maybe. Could also be they just like you and actually do think you are really smart.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 20, 2019, 02:13:46 pm
Maybe. Could also be they just like you and actually do think you are really smart.

At a certain point, people tend to get a better understanding of your needs... at least I find.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on October 20, 2019, 02:45:44 pm
Maybe. Could also be they just like you and actually do think you are really smart.

I hope they really do like me. :)  I'd actually want to hang out with them even if I wasn't involved with their sister.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on October 22, 2019, 02:53:16 pm
Took a sick day to go to baby gym class.  I never play hooky but I am pretty sick of the mounting mediocrity at work these days...

The city puts on these little gym classes in the community centre.  Well, the 'class' is really just letting the babies crawl around, play and go in the ball pit.  Then we do 10 minutes of singing in a circle.  Easy isn't really into it and just crawls away... :D

It's ok though.  Back home for a long nap after (everybody)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on October 22, 2019, 03:13:25 pm
Took a sick day to go to baby gym class.  I never play hooky but I am pretty sick of the mounting mediocrity at work these days...

The city puts on these little gym classes in the community centre.  Well, the 'class' is really just letting the babies crawl around, play and go in the ball pit.  Then we do 10 minutes of singing in a circle.  Easy isn't really into it and just crawls away... :D

It's ok though.  Back home for a long nap after (everybody)

Nothing more rejuvenating than a long nap. Duermes bien.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on October 30, 2019, 10:40:57 am
So my daughter has a new girlfriend, it seems to be going well.  She's a bit older than my daughter, but my girl has always seemed to hang out with people older than herself.

She also just bought a house and moved in Oct. 1. (Well, I bought the house, she's paying me instead of a mortgage.)

The breakup with the old girlfriend was heartbreaking for her.  They were good for each other for a few years when they were both younger, but as they got older my daughter got a great job, wanted to buy a house and settle down, while her girlfriend was still in "party, party, party" mode.

New girlfriend lives in Calgary, so they are coming to our place for xmas  :)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 05, 2019, 02:57:58 am
My special girl is all atwitter with excitement. After long delays, her place reopened today and she's super happy about it.  I met the new owner, and he seems nice. She introduced me to him as her "BFF". Since she's not really out, I understand... and since I'm not really out either, I've done the same to her.

We've had new employees at work.  One is an older guy who still tries to act young and cool.  Despite dying his hair and gelling it up like a teenager, he doesn't look young or cool.  I was in charge of him for a while and I did some of his training. It seemed very clear what he thinks of me and he made no effort to listen to what I said. He's been pawned off on our production manager, and I'm glad. If I had to work with him much longer I'd have probably had to beat the snot out of him.

The other new employee is a young guy straight out of college. He's blond, blue-eyed, 6'2, very buff, and network-TV attractive.  If I was heterosexual I'd be turned into jelly.  He's very nice, polite, respectful, smart, listens to what I tell him. He's such a good kid. 

We had a wonderful time on Halloween.  There's a haunted house here that raises a lot of donations for the food bank. It was delightful.

I got propositioned rather boldly a couple of times recently. I get propositioned from time to time but usually by men, but this time it was by women which is much more exciting for me. The first was an attractive lady at a bar who struck up a conversation and we talked for a while and after a bit she she suggested that we should go to her place. I told her that I wished I'd met her when I was single. And my sweetie arrived about 5 minutes later.

And this Saturday my girl was working and I was at a different bar and these two party girls came in-- big bleach blonde hair, short dresses, fake eyelashes... and it quickly became apparent that they were pretty drunk, and they started making out and putting on quite a show...  and one of them noticed me getting all flustered and started flirting with me, and she came over to me and started giving me hugs and kissing my cheek. Everybody else seemed to find it quite amusing, but it was actually very embarrassing and uncomfortable.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 05, 2019, 05:47:06 am
Your life is very exciting Kimmy.

Easy turned one last week.  We had a baby party for him at the community centre.  It was like a baby Night at the Roxbury with lights and music.  And now I know what baby parties are all about.

Easy is about the cutest baby anyone has ever seen.  He's healthy, 90% in height and weight. 

My crush on my talk Chinese hot smart client lady is starting to subside into a brotherly care feeling, as expected.  That may mean she gets a passing one on me sometime in the next few years due to extended Platonic togetherness but this is no threat of action from me and inappropriate behaviour will not surface in any way.  Also this is a good thing because she pulled a cool move during restructuring and we're doing a kind of Brexit of our team... she's taking us over to a lady VP which will be much better for her career than the boys club VP we're in now.

Smooth sailing into the dark days of winter over here...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 05, 2019, 10:24:52 am
Since she's not really out, I understand... and since I'm not really out either, I've done the same to her.

Interesting, in 2019 there is still a hesitancy to come out. I won't ask your age, but I assume you are no longer in high school with the cliques that would make this difficult anyway.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on November 06, 2019, 12:29:11 am
I'm sure they do wish us well.  I just can't help feeling that they feel obliged to support us because they don't want to seem intolerant or something like that.  Like, if their sister had started dating some random man, I'm not sure they'd be as enthusiastic.  They might have some reservations and hope that she takes her time and be cautious. Mostly I think her brother and his wife just want her to know that they still love her and that her being in a same-sex relationship hasn't changed anything. Which is wonderful, but I'm not sure they're expressing it in the best way.

I know I'm overthinking this and I should just be grateful that her family aren't a bunch of bigots. They really are super-nice.

 -k

I see your point here and maybe there is a double standard, but maybe it has nothing to do with trying to appear LGBTQ friendly.

Remember many pages ago, when asked, I said that in some ways I'd prefer if my daughters turned out to be gay and you said you've heard that before?

Maybe there's a tendency, right or wrong, in some of us to feel a bit safer when our daughters/sisters give their heart to another woman.


Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on November 06, 2019, 11:41:23 am
Interesting, in 2019 there is still a hesitancy to come out. I won't ask your age, but I assume you are no longer in high school with the cliques that would make this difficult anyway.
She lives in Conservative country.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on November 06, 2019, 01:32:48 pm
She lives in Conservative country.

Not the most progressive place, that's for sure.  Strong influence from Alberta too and it has a biker problem.

There are direct flights from Kelowna to Fort Mac.


The Lib/NDP/Greens did receive 55% of the vote...  a good sign.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 08, 2019, 04:06:30 am
Interesting, in 2019 there is still a hesitancy to come out. I won't ask your age, but I assume you are no longer in high school with the cliques that would make this difficult anyway.

I'm in my mid-30s.  My sweetheart is in her late 20s.  Both of us are "out" to quite a few people, but it's not something we announce to everybody. She has a new boss and new employees, and is sort of still figuring out where she stands with them.  Once she figures out the dynamics of her new relationships, she'll let them learn more about her.  For me building new relationships with co-workers and employers and stuff is complicated enough even without wondering whether they might secretly harbor bigotry toward me.  I'm prefer to not let people in on that stuff until I feel comfortable with them. 

It's kind of funny that staff and regular customers at the bars we like to go to know we're a couple, people who are either casual acquaintances or complete strangers. But many of the people I work with every day don't know about that part of my life. 

She lives in Conservative country.
...
Not the most progressive place, that's for sure.  Strong influence from Alberta too and it has a biker problem.

It's not a monolith.  It's the urban hub of a large rural area. We have a lot of old-people and rednecks, but it's also a college town and a lot of young people have come here to work. The electoral map might say this is conservative country, but the area where I live has a very progressive vibe to it.  There are more micro-brew loving hipsters than Bud-drinking rednecks in this part of town.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 08, 2019, 04:11:26 am
I see your point here and maybe there is a double standard, but maybe it has nothing to do with trying to appear LGBTQ friendly.

Remember many pages ago, when asked, I said that in some ways I'd prefer if my daughters turned out to be gay and you said you've heard that before?

Maybe there's a tendency, right or wrong, in some of us to feel a bit safer when our daughters/sisters give their heart to another woman.

That's true.  Kind of like how people thought the drunk young woman from the other night mashing on me was amusing and harmless, while if a man had acted that way somebody would have called the police. There's a double standard, and perhaps there should be.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 08, 2019, 05:55:48 am
I think there should be double standards... as in not telling lesbians they're closed-minded for not dating trans women, affirmative action etc.

----

I thought kimmy's age and that of her mate were switched...  but ok...

----

It's all done, the Game of Thrones chapter at work is done.  Big restructuring went down last two weeks.  My shitty boss's boss is out on the street.
 My shitty boss was my only boss for 10 weeks and we met about 3 times in that period... and he's now effectively demoted, in as much as he saw his previous role as grand-boss's yes man as vitally important.

And my team will be cut loose from this organization and migrated to a new one.  Mama san is my actual boss now which means any flirting from her would:

1) include a hot power dynamic
2) be sexual harassment IN MY FAVOUR  :D

In all seriousness, the moves she pulled off to do this and save the team from shittyness, and the trust she put in me to take care of things while she was busy with that has solidified our relationship.  Even though she looks better than ever, something about this maternal protection thing is killing the attraction for me.  I do love her, but profesionally. 

Side note- on my way out of this organization I was assigned a temporary boss for 1 week.   This is a tiny, short-haired/bushy-haired FOR SURE lesbian with a thick Brazillian accent.  And from ONE 1/2 hour meeting, she is f*cking brilliant.  I broke it to her that I'm leaving to work for mamasan but I want to come back in a year or so after we launch our product.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 11, 2019, 03:25:03 am
I thought kimmy's age and that of her mate were switched...  but ok...

I briefly dated the much older woman, the realtor... is that the one you were thinking of?  That didn't last long.   

I actually thought my sweetheart was closer to my own age when I met her.  Not that she looks it, but she has a self assurance and confidence that made me think she was older than she is.  Although she has not felt confident the past week.  With the big reopening underway, the new owners have been there constantly making sure everything is going smoothly. She feels like she's being observed.  Also she feels quite undermined, as the owners are the ones giving all the direction to the staff. When they want to know what to do they walk right past her and talk to the owners.  She isn't "managing" anything, and she feels useless. Hopefully it sorts itself out soon.

It's all done, the Game of Thrones chapter at work is done.  Big restructuring went down last two weeks.  My shitty boss's boss is out on the street.
 My shitty boss was my only boss for 10 weeks and we met about 3 times in that period... and he's now effectively demoted, in as much as he saw his previous role as grand-boss's yes man as vitally important.

And my team will be cut loose from this organization and migrated to a new one.  Mama san is my actual boss now which means any flirting from her would:

1) include a hot power dynamic
2) be sexual harassment IN MY FAVOUR  :D

In all seriousness, the moves she pulled off to do this and save the team from shittyness, and the trust she put in me to take care of things while she was busy with that has solidified our relationship.  Even though she looks better than ever, something about this maternal protection thing is killing the attraction for me.  I do love her, but profesionally. 

Will you be required to "Give Lunch!" more frequently now?

Side note- on my way out of this organization I was assigned a temporary boss for 1 week.   This is a tiny, short-haired/bushy-haired FOR SURE lesbian with a thick Brazillian accent.  And from ONE 1/2 hour meeting, she is f*cking brilliant.  I broke it to her that I'm leaving to work for mamasan but I want to come back in a year or so after we launch our product.

What makes you so sure she's a lesbian?  Does she drive a Subaru or eat generic wheat squares for breakfast?

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 11, 2019, 06:24:14 am

What makes you so sure she's a lesbian?  Does she drive a Subaru or eat generic wheat squares for breakfast?

 -k

Some things just are obvious.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 11, 2019, 12:20:54 pm
What makes you so sure she's a lesbian?  Does she drive a Subaru or eat generic wheat squares for breakfast?

While I don't eat wheat squares (generic or brand name) for breakfast, I do drive a Subaru. Does that make me gay, or does it only apply to women?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 11, 2019, 12:42:17 pm
While I don't eat wheat squares (generic or brand name) for breakfast, I do drive a Subaru. Does that make me gay, or does it only apply to women?

I drive a Mazda to the grocery store, a GMC pickup to the lumber store, and a Kawasaki 750 when I'm going nowhere. What does that make me I wonder?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on November 11, 2019, 12:43:58 pm
I drive a Mazda to the grocery store, a GMC pickup to the lumber store, and a Kawasaki 750 when I'm going nowhere. What does that make me I wonder?

If it’s a Mazda Miata, it makes you a hairdresser. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on November 11, 2019, 01:04:45 pm
I too would like to own specific vehicles for specific stores.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on November 11, 2019, 01:06:51 pm
If it’s a Mazda Miata, it makes you a hairdresser.

Nah it's a Mazda pick up, I just use the old Jimmy for the lumber store as it has more room in the box as well as a few scratches from its years of similar service.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 11, 2019, 01:38:05 pm
Subaru's are gay? Who knew.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 11, 2019, 06:45:28 pm
While I don't eat wheat squares (generic or brand name) for breakfast, I do drive a Subaru. Does that make me gay, or does it only apply to women?

There's a stereotype that a certain type of woman drives Subarus.  The same sort of woman who eats generic wheat squares, apparently.  I gather softball is also involved.  If you see a woman in a Subaru with a hatch full of baseball gear and off-brand Shreddies, remind her to send me a text.

I drive a Mazda to the grocery store, a GMC pickup to the lumber store, and a Kawasaki 750 when I'm going nowhere. What does that make me I wonder?

Gender fluid.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 11, 2019, 07:41:36 pm
Subaru's are gay? Who knew.

Everyone.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 11, 2019, 07:43:33 pm
Everyone.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on November 12, 2019, 01:51:19 pm
Subaru's are gay? Who knew.

I drove a Subaru for years.  I'm not gay.
It was an excellent car.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 12, 2019, 02:49:46 pm
How about a WRX STI full of softball equipment?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 12, 2019, 07:47:15 pm
I drove a Subaru for years.  I'm not gay.
It was an excellent car.

Have you had a gay experience ?  Maybe Suburus are just a signifier.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Goddess on November 13, 2019, 09:46:46 am
Have you had a gay experience ?  Maybe Suburus are just a signifier.

Made out with a girl a couple times, but no - definitely straight.

Side note:  It was the large amount of male gay friends I have had, who taught me what real respect in a relationship is.  Straight men could learn a lot from gay men.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 13, 2019, 02:45:17 pm
1. Made out with a girl a couple times, but no - definitely straight.

2. Side note:  It was the large amount of male gay friends I have had, who taught me what real respect in a relationship is.  Straight men could learn a lot from gay men.
1. Suburu
2. I teach them, by example
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 15, 2019, 02:27:04 am
How about a WRX STI full of softball equipment?

That's hot.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 15, 2019, 09:20:45 am
That's hot.



 -k
Never owned one but I drove a WRX years ago just after they came out. The car itself was pretty bland but at the time, the performance was pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on November 17, 2019, 12:37:13 pm
There's a stereotype that a certain type of woman drives Subarus.

Renault is the new Subaru - 30 years in the making! (https://twitter.com/i/videos/1193865178523164672)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 18, 2019, 11:15:32 pm
Renault is the new Subaru - 30 years in the making! (https://twitter.com/i/videos/1193865178523164672)

awwwwwww


The first ad I ever saw aimed at gay women was a print ad in some magazine, for a car brand that I can't recall. Maybe it was Subaru, maybe not, I'm not sure.  This was probably 15 years ago, when I was still figuring things out.  Anyway, the picture was of an attractive short-haired brunette woman in business attire, holding car keys and smirking.  In the background, there's a car and leaning against the car is an attractive femme-looking blonde with a flirty smile. The caption said something along the lines of "When you know what you want."  And I remember thinking "gee, even an ad aimed at gay women still has typical male sexism."

There's a stereotype that a certain type of woman drives Subarus.

I just read this
interesting article on the history of Subarus and lesbians.  (https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/how-subarus-came-to-be-seen-as-cars-for-lesbians/488042/)It dates back to a time when Subaru was struggling to sell cars in North America, and was looking for a niche-- any niche.  They identified four groups who bought a lot of Subarus, and while doing that research, stumbled onto the connection with lesbians almost by accident:

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In the 1990s, Subaru’s unique selling point was that the company increasingly made all-wheel drive standard on all its cars. When the company’s marketers went searching for people willing to pay a premium for all-wheel drive, they identified four core groups who were responsible for half of the company’s American sales: teachers and educators, health-care professionals, IT professionals, and outdoorsy types.

Then they discovered a fifth: lesbians. “When we did the research, we found pockets of the country like Northampton, Massachusetts, and Portland, Oregon, where the head of the household would be a single person—and often a woman,” says Tim Bennett, who was the company’s director of advertising at the time. When marketers talked to these customers, they realized these women buying Subarus were lesbian.

Japanese executives were initially confused by the idea...

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It was in this context that Subaru’s marketing team hired Mulryan/Nash and pitched Subaru’s Japanese management on ads for lesbian customers. Writing in the Huffington Post, the reporter Ron Dicker captured some of the cultural confusion that followed:
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When one Subaru ad man … proposed the gay-targeting ads in talks with Japanese executives, the executives hurriedly looked up “gay” in their dictionaries. Upon reading the definition, they nodded at the idea enthusiastically. Who wouldn’t want happy or joyous advertising?

“It was certainly a learning process for everybody,” says Bennett. While Bennett, who is gay, didn’t reveal his sexual orientation for fear of overshadowing the effort, he nonetheless recalls holding company meetings with names along the lines of “Who Are Gays and Lesbians?”

...but it turned out to be a success for them, and a groundbreaking moment in the advertising industry as well.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 18, 2019, 11:22:46 pm
We've had new employees at work.  One is an older guy who still tries to act young and cool.  Despite dying his hair and gelling it up like a teenager, he doesn't look young or cool.  I was in charge of him for a while and I did some of his training. It seemed very clear what he thinks of me and he made no effort to listen to what I said. He's been pawned off on our production manager, and I'm glad. If I had to work with him much longer I'd have probably had to beat the snot out of him.

So they got rid of that guy a couple of weeks back.  I'm glad he's gone, I only regret that I didn't get to beat the snot out of him.  I gather that Ed Engineer liked him even less than I did. I assume that he was either fired, or cut into pieces and frozen in Ed's freezer. Ed's so pleasant to work with that it's sometimes easy to forget that he's actually a charming Patrick Bateman-like psychopath.  It surprises me that I'm the only one who realizes it. Kind of like in Dexter, where Dexter's act fools everybody except the one black cop who sees right through him.  I'm that black cop.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on November 19, 2019, 07:24:52 am
Any more adversarial relationships at work remaining?

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 19, 2019, 06:52:21 pm
It dates back to a time when Subaru was struggling to sell cars in North America, and was looking for a niche-- any niche.

When the company’s marketers went searching for people willing to pay a premium for all-wheel drive, they identified four core groups who were responsible for half of the company’s American sales: teachers and educators, health-care professionals, IT professionals, and outdoorsy types.

Then they discovered a fifth: lesbians.


I fit into two categories: IT professionals, and outdoorsy types

I guess it is not inconceivable that others fit into more than two, and of course the ideal would be all five.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 24, 2019, 11:23:27 pm
Any more adversarial relationships at work remaining?

Only if you count Alpha-Minion's deadly aura of carcinogenic cigarette smoke.   Everything seems smooth now.  I've gotten accustomed to my coworkers' idiosyncrasies. Boring Stories Bob's boring stories and Old Economy Steve's stale humor don't grate on me the way they used to.  I like my coworkers, and I think I have earned their respect for the most part. The people I work with the most are my biggest supporters.

I'm still kind of mad that I didn't get to beat the shit out of that guy before he was let go, though.  It was irritating enough that he just didn't bother listening to me-- either because he's a man, or because he's 25 years my senior, or because he had a TECH SCHOOL DIPLOMA~~!, or some combination of all of those things. His diploma was apparently from an era when they were still making tools out of stones and wood, and nobody seemed to think he was actually very smart except for him.  Watching his obvious attempts to suck-up and kiss-ass to people who he perceived as being important made it worse.  Bypassing me to go directly to Ed and Greg and Replacement Pete, in hopes of ingratiating himself to people he assumed could solidify his standing in the company.  It had the opposite effect, because those three keep me around so that they have less annoying interruptions, and he was asked at least once why he wasn't doing the stuff I'd tasked him with.  It seems like his attempts at being a brown-noser and social climber were too obvious and rubbed people the wrong way.

Also, a guy approaching 60 shouldn't be using that much hair-gel.  And his hair was obviously dyed and it just wasn't a good look for him.  And he had an annoying radio-guy voice.  "Heeeyyy, this is Annoying Dick, and this is your At Work Network, playing the Lite Hitz you don't want to hear, and I'm being an obsequious kiss-ass instead of doing the stuff that keeps me employed."



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 24, 2019, 11:24:49 pm
I fit into two categories: IT professionals, and outdoorsy types

I guess it is not inconceivable that others fit into more than two, and of course the ideal would be all five.

It seems like you fit right in with the Subaru demographic!   I personally drive a 15 year old Nissan Pathfinder, which is kind of like a butch Subaru I think.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on November 24, 2019, 11:36:35 pm
Me and the missus went to a resort hotel on a mountaintop!  It was absurdly fancy. November is off season for them, and therefore the only time of year when normal people can afford to go.  They have eight different kinds of saunas and aromatherapy spas, and a giant hot tub and an infinity pool overlooking the whole valley and hiking trails and crystals everywhere and all kinds of other stuff. It was incredible.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on November 25, 2019, 12:27:44 am
Me and the missus went to a resort hotel on a mountaintop!  It was absurdly fancy. November is off season for them, and therefore the only time of year when normal people can afford to go.  They have eight different kinds of saunas and aromatherapy spas, and a giant hot tub and an infinity pool overlooking the whole valley and hiking trails and crystals everywhere and all kinds of other stuff. It was incredible.

 -k

I’d invite you and the missus over to use our homemade sauna.  :o ...   but the missus here would not approve...   >:( 

Sounds like a cool place....   I’ve been to Whistler in the off-season...   after summer, before snow and it’s the same sort of thing...   way, way cheaper....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 25, 2019, 12:49:42 pm
Also, a guy approaching 60 shouldn't be using that much hair-gel.

I am fast approaching 60, and I don't recall using hair gel (one failed experiment with Brylcreem) or hair spray since I was a teenager. A few times a barber may have put some in my hair, but if they ever asked I declined.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 25, 2019, 12:53:11 pm
What's hair gel?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 25, 2019, 05:23:44 pm
I am fast approaching 60, and I don't recall using hair gel (one failed experiment with Brylcreem) or hair spray since I was a teenager. A few times a barber may have put some in my hair, but if they ever asked I declined.

If squid has his way you will only get to vote in four more elections.

Correction, only three more if you turn sixty in less than two years.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 25, 2019, 06:20:20 pm
If squid has his way you will only get to vote in four more elections.

As I get older, the choices get worse. Perhaps when I am 75 they will be so bad that I will refuse to vote.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on November 25, 2019, 06:29:47 pm
As I get older, the choices get worse. Perhaps when I am 75 they will be so bad that I will refuse to vote.

Wouldn't you want to decide that for yourself?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on November 25, 2019, 06:31:05 pm
Wouldn't you want to decide that for yourself?

Yes, of course. I was just making a tangential observation.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 03, 2019, 02:44:53 am
My special girl is all atwitter with excitement. After long delays, her place reopened today and she's super happy about it.  I met the new owner, and he seems nice. She introduced me to him as her "BFF". Since she's not really out, I understand... and since I'm not really out either, I've done the same to her.
...
  Although she has not felt confident the past week.  With the big reopening underway, the new owners have been there constantly making sure everything is going smoothly. She feels like she's being observed.  Also she feels quite undermined, as the owners are the ones giving all the direction to the staff. When they want to know what to do they walk right past her and talk to the owners.  She isn't "managing" anything, and she feels useless. Hopefully it sorts itself out soon.

 ....aaaaand she quit.

It became clear that the new owners preferred to have their own people in charge of everything, and she was pushed off to the side.

On the bright side, she's starting a new job right away.  Her side-hustle didn't make enough money to earn a living, but it did make her some contacts that got her an office gig.  So she is bidding farewell to hospitality. She seems happy to be starting a "grown up job" and to be out of the muddled situation that her previous job had become. But she used to enjoy it, and I think she always dreamed of running a really cool spot... maybe she can start her own some day.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 03, 2019, 06:59:08 am
Well I'm glad she landed somewhere already.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 13, 2019, 10:21:26 pm
Ugh. 

Easy was breathing quickly and the Dr. told us to go into emergency.  He's ok but Children's Hospital emergency is the worst place to spend 5 hours Friday night...  :P
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on December 13, 2019, 11:07:58 pm
Ugh. 

Easy was breathing quickly and the Dr. told us to go into emergency.  He's ok but Children's Hospital emergency is the worst place to spend 5 hours Friday night...  :P

Certainly glad to hear he's OK. Hope he's on the mend.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 14, 2019, 07:54:46 am
Certainly glad to hear he's OK. Hope he's on the mend.

He's fighting it so he gets super great and doubly fun for a few hours then it comes back and he's miserable.  He's getting more teeth now too so it's all miserable. 

Also, mom cut his overflowingly beautiful blonde locks of hair (dunno why he's blonde we both have brown hair chestnutty... hmmm.... I think the lab technician at the Fertility Clinic had blonde hair also clammy hands... nevermind) and gave him a 'boy' cut so now he looks more like Clint Howard - Gentle Ben era - but way better looking....

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentle_Ben#/media/File:Gentle_Ben_premiere_Clint_Howard_1967.JPG)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on December 14, 2019, 08:11:54 am
Is it just a cold? Why do they think he was breathing quickly?

And his hair will probably get darker as he gets older.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 14, 2019, 10:54:55 am
Is it just a cold? Why do they think he was breathing quickly?

And his hair will probably get darker as he gets older.

Just a high fever... :(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 14, 2019, 01:31:36 pm
I hope he recovers quickly.  Tiny humans are not strong or smart, but they are very resilient.


Last weekend I helped the missus move a couch into her place.  She bought a bunch of stuff from someone she knows who is divorcing and downsizing.  One of the benefits of having superhuman strength is that I can do stuff that she'd have to a guy for help with. I'm not as strong as I was when I was doing physical labor for 40 hours a week, but I'm still as strong as 12 gorillas.  Pro-tip, guys: girls love it when you move heavy things for them. It gets them all hot and distracted.

Anyway, her apartment felt very empty with sparce furniture, but now that she has furniture and decorations and art and stuff, it feels completely different.  It feels cozy and warm and inviting.  We hosted our first party as a couple last night, as some of her friends were over for dinner and drinks. It felt like a very couples thing to do.

Today, we are going to my office Christmas party together. Some of my coworkers know I prefer the company of women, some don't. Some are old, some are conservative, some are old and conservative.  None of them have met my girl yet. Feeling a little anxious. Wish us luck.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 14, 2019, 04:19:26 pm
Wow.  Good luck.  On her side, though, isn't this her first same-sex "relationship". 

As brave as it is for you to bring someone to work... I feel like you greeting her personal friends would be a little more nerve wracking no ?

And... you're strong ?  Are you big or little ?  My grandpa was a tiny man who basically had no end to his energy levels.  He was tiny and wiry and never quit.

I used to have high energy but I'm wondering if I'm seeing new days now... I just need a nap sometimes. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on December 15, 2019, 08:35:20 pm
I'm about as low as can fucking be again....I don't think I'll ever get better.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 15, 2019, 08:57:37 pm
I'm about as low as can **** be again....I don't think I'll ever get better.

What is happening ?  Is it relationship stuff ?  Things get better and worse...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on December 16, 2019, 09:55:27 am
I'm about as low as can **** be again....I don't think I'll ever get better.
No one’s life is linear. You’ve got this, friend.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 20, 2019, 01:59:32 am
Wow.  Good luck.  On her side, though, isn't this her first same-sex "relationship". 

She has had flings with women before, but this is the first serious relationship she has had with a woman.

The party was great!  Everybody liked her. If anybody had anything negative to say, they waited until I was out of earshot.  Even the old lady who usually makes homophobic jokes was very positive.  And everybody liked the food she made! It was nice to feel  accepted.

The elderly couple who host the party were especially kind to her:
"Lindsey, it was delightful meeting you. I hope we see you at our next party! Kimberly...  you can stay home."

"Lindsey, it has been a pleasure.  ...  Kim, it's been decidedly ... average." 

They tease me because they like me.

...I think.

As brave as it is for you to bring someone to work... I feel like you greeting her personal friends would be a little more nerve wracking no ?

nah.  I'd met some of her friends before, and I assume that she has had the talk with them already.  It didn't really feel like a coming-out in the way that bringing my girl to the office party did.

And... you're strong ?  Are you big or little ?  My grandpa was a tiny man who basically had no end to his energy levels.  He was tiny and wiry and never quit.

I used to have high energy but I'm wondering if I'm seeing new days now... I just need a nap sometimes.

I'm stronger than home-made whiskey!   I'm only 5'5, but I have a lot more muscle on my little frame than most women.   As I've mentioned, I worked in construction for about 10 years, and doing that kind of work every day builds a kind of strength that a few hours a week at the gym just can't give you.  I have lost some muscle since moving to a sedentary job, but I still lift and keep in good shape.



 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on December 22, 2019, 02:32:11 pm
I just keep getting wrapped up with the wrong person over and over again.  IDK why I let this happen.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 22, 2019, 08:43:58 pm
I just keep getting wrapped up with the wrong person over and over again.  IDK why I let this happen.

You should think about why.   It may help extricate you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 23, 2019, 05:39:57 am
We're at the point now where the extremes of Easy's mood will decide how we feel in our day.

We are in Collingwood, in north snowy country, for the week.  We left Saturday and he was difficult and it made things unbearably difficult.  We had to take a 15 minute nap at noon just to get sorted.  Yesterday some friends were visiting their mom locally so we got invited to family christmas and E was just a rockstar: cute, smiley....

Merry Christmas folks...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on December 23, 2019, 10:36:16 am
We're at the point now where the extremes of Easy's mood will decide how we feel in our day.

We are in Collingwood, in north snowy country, for the week.  We left Saturday and he was difficult and it made things unbearably difficult.  We had to take a 15 minute nap at noon just to get sorted.  Yesterday some friends were visiting their mom locally so we got invited to family christmas and E was just a rockstar: cute, smiley....

Merry Christmas folks...

Hey you're just a hop and a skip from my old stompin' ground. (Bracebridge) I made a lot of tracks in that snow up there. Hope you enjoy it and Merry Christmas to you guys.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 23, 2019, 01:56:56 pm
Hey you're just a hop and a skip from my old stompin' ground. (Bracebridge) I made a lot of tracks in that snow up there. Hope you enjoy it and Merry Christmas to you guys.

Why thanks.  It's so lovely up here.  Ontario really gets fantastic when you get east of Port Hope and north of Barrie.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on December 24, 2019, 05:19:07 pm
I started therapy with the better help app.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 24, 2019, 06:25:44 pm
Merry Christmas, everyone!  Remember the reason for the season. Remember, if your Yuletide doesn't include the Yulfadr, you've just got ... tide.  Keep Odin in Christmas!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on December 24, 2019, 08:06:54 pm
Something odd seeped in there...

Well, Merry Christmas then  :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on December 24, 2019, 08:45:03 pm
Merry Christmas, everyone!  Remember the reason for the season. Remember, if your Yuletide doesn't include the Yulfadr, you've just got ... tide.  Keep Odin in Christmas!

 -k

 ???

Hope everyone has an excellent Christmas or whatever they may call it.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on December 25, 2019, 11:12:12 am
I'm about as low as can **** be again....I don't think I'll ever get better.
Sorry to hear that, JMT. Winter blues pack a wallop on top of other things. All those things they tell you to do do help - going for a walk, eating well, taking vitamins. What saved me when I hit the the black hole was pushing myself out the door to go out for breakfast every day, and then I was gradually able to socialize again.  Although isolating yourself too much has its downside, I found I also got to know, trust, forgive and respect myself in those long solo episodes. 
Don't attach yourself to anyone who brings you down.

It will get better, and you will get better at making that happen. You are in control.  ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on December 27, 2019, 01:21:05 pm
I just keep getting wrapped up with the wrong person over and over again.  IDK why I let this happen.
We have all done this for years. You’re learning. It’s completely  normal.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on December 28, 2019, 05:19:35 pm
???

Hope everyone has an excellent Christmas or whatever they may call it.
Something odd seeped in there...

Well, Merry Christmas then  :D

My peeps were celebrating Yule at Winter Solstice for centuries before Jesus came along.  Drinking, feasting, bonfires, straw goats being set ablaze, fertility rites, and lots of other festivities intended to persuade Odin and the other gods to bring the sun back.

We had a nice Christmas. I gave her jewels, which made her cry. We skyped with her brother's family, and with her parents. We also had drinking, feasting, fertility rites, and other festivities, but no bonfires or straw goats set ablaze.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on January 06, 2020, 01:25:12 pm
Home sick from work today. :(

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 06, 2020, 05:26:37 pm
Is it The Cold? Hit everyone around here. Think it was a Christmas gift from our youngest grand daughter.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 06, 2020, 05:41:30 pm
It was weird - almost a 2 week Christmas break because the stat holidays were square in the middle of the week.

That said, Jan 2nd it seemed like downtown was almost the usual level of busy.  Going back was weird, but I tackled the week all fresh n stuff ...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 06, 2020, 09:45:25 pm
I just keep getting wrapped up with the wrong person over and over again.  IDK why I let this happen.

1. I'm back on this site for about 6 hours because i was suspended from MLW for a day by your friendly neighbourhood a$$hole Charles Anthony for the dumbest reason alive.  T-minus 6 hours until I can verbally emasculate the bitch when my posting "privileges" are returned.  Fuck that c*nt.  As least you don't have power/control issues like he does.  Unfortunately many of the people who post here are resentful, verbally abusive a-holes who need a hug from mommy to make things better.

2. You keep getting wrapped up because you're in love.  It sucks the best of us into bad situations black holes.  It's like a drug and an addiction, you know it's not healthy but the chemicals in your brain crave it.  Like any bad drug you want to kick, you have to quit cold turkey and never be exposed to it again.  Ie: Never ever talk to her or be around her again.  You've essentially been relapsing with this woman.  Quit her.  I'm speaking from experience also.

3. As far as I know you work at a general store in the middle of bum-f*ck nowhere where you're exposed to few quality women and probably come into contact with this girl more often than you normally would in a city setting.  I'd move the eff away from where you are, far away, move to a bigger town, there's no opportunity where you are, just a lot of effed up aboriginals who don't have their sh!t together for one reason or another.  Not exactly a healthy environment for social life, love life, or career.  Your environment will determine the type of women you will meet.  Choose your environment wisely.

4.  I've noticed you becoming more miserable just by how you speak on this forum over the last year or so. Now I know why.

5.  Next time you have personal problems please don't take it out on me.

6.  Glad you're seeking therapy. They're probably just going to say the same stuff i just said, so save your money, unless it really helps.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 07, 2020, 06:56:38 am
Obsessive love IS love but not healthy.  Get rid of it.

We miss you Graham, come back.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on January 07, 2020, 10:18:34 am
1. I'm back on this site for about 6 hours because i was suspended from MLW for a day by your friendly neighbourhood a$$hole Charles Anthony for the dumbest reason alive.  T-minus 6 hours until I can verbally emasculate the **** when my posting "privileges" are returned.  **** that c*nt.  As least you don't have power/control issues like he does.  Unfortunately many of the people who post here are resentful, verbally abusive a-holes who need a hug from mommy to make things better.

2. You keep getting wrapped up because you're in love.  It sucks the best of us into bad situations black holes.  It's like a drug and an addiction, you know it's not healthy but the chemicals in your brain crave it.  Like any bad drug you want to kick, you have to quit cold turkey and never be exposed to it again.  Ie: Never ever talk to her or be around her again.  You've essentially been relapsing with this woman.  Quit her.  I'm speaking from experience also.

3. As far as I know you work at a general store in the middle of bum-f*ck nowhere where you're exposed to few quality women and probably come into contact with this girl more often than you normally would in a city setting.  I'd move the eff away from where you are, far away, move to a bigger town, there's no opportunity where you are, just a lot of effed up aboriginals who don't have their sh!t together for one reason or another.  Not exactly a healthy environment for social life, love life, or career.  Your environment will determine the type of women you will meet.  Choose your environment wisely.

4.  I've noticed you becoming more miserable just by how you speak on this forum over the last year or so. Now I know why.

5.  Next time you have personal problems please don't take it out on me.

6.  Glad you're seeking therapy. They're probably just going to say the same stuff i just said, so save your money, unless it really helps.  Good luck.

Just to be clear, Kayla lives nowhere near me - my therapist has helped me understand how my codependent personality combined with her probably narcissistic one has led and kept me here.  I feel a lot better now.  I still don't care if anyone posts here lol.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on January 07, 2020, 10:25:26 am
Just to be clear, Kayla lives nowhere near me - my therapist has helped me understand how my codependent personality combined with her probably narcissistic one has led and kept me here.  I feel a lot better now.  I still don't care if anyone posts here lol.

You mean your therapist didn’t just say the same stupid shit Moonlight Graham said?    Wow....  I guess MG shouldn’t quit his day job. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 07, 2020, 12:19:14 pm
You mean your therapist didn’t just say the same stupid **** Moonlight Graham said?    Wow....  I guess MG shouldn’t quit his day job.

Apparently MG has an issue with aboriginals as well as women.

I certainly do concur with his comments pertaining to CA. His power tripping has turned the place there into a mostly far right loony bib.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 07, 2020, 12:54:08 pm
Do you guys really think it's necessary to make derogatory comments about a web persona you will never meet ?

What's going to happen when you find out I have been ghostwriting all of these personalities.

waldo is based on my dad.  Kimmy is based on my Aunt Peg. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on January 07, 2020, 01:21:51 pm
Do you guys really think it's necessary to make derogatory comments about a web persona you will never meet ?

What's going to happen when you find out I have been ghostwriting all of these personalities.

waldo is based on my dad.  Kimmy is based on my Aunt Peg.

Hmm. Betsy? Taxme? ;)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on January 07, 2020, 02:28:32 pm
Do you guys really think it's necessary to make derogatory comments about a web persona you will never meet ?

What's going to happen when you find out I have been ghostwriting all of these personalities.

waldo is based on my dad.  Kimmy is based on my Aunt Peg.

I wouldn’t be surprised....    :-\

He comes back here to whine and snivel and tell JMT what a shit job he’s doing and let him know he has a solution to his personal problems and you expect people not to call him out a bit? 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 07, 2020, 06:53:46 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised....    :-\

He comes back here to whine and snivel and tell JMT what a **** job he’s doing and let him know he has a solution to his personal problems and you expect people not to call him out a bit?

This other side is real.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 07, 2020, 07:44:31 pm
This other side is real.

Seems to me MG just dropped in for a drive by shooting because he was pissed at Charles. No need to cut him slack.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 07, 2020, 08:38:37 pm
Do you guys really think it's necessary to make derogatory comments about a web persona you will never meet ?

What's going to happen when you find out I have been ghostwriting all of these personalities.

waldo is based on my dad.  Kimmy is based on my Aunt Peg.

It's ok.  They're just a bunch of children who like to cry and whine and throw tantrums.  They have proved the point in my signature.  I've been back for 2 seconds and already show their true colours. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 07, 2020, 08:40:31 pm
Seems to me MG just dropped in for a drive by shooting because he was pissed at Charles. No need to cut him slack.

Hey I like you wilber.

Why is it so many people on these boards are utter morons?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 07, 2020, 08:42:34 pm
We miss you Graham, come back.

Come back to what?  Where's the intelligent debate here?  There's like 3 people here worthy of chatting with and the rest just flog insults when someone doesn't think as they do.  I put up with it for years.  Now it's my turn to flog insults.  They can all suck my balls.  They show who they are (hint: their breath smells like my balls).
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 07, 2020, 08:43:29 pm
Just to be clear, Kayla lives nowhere near me - my therapist has helped me understand how my codependent personality combined with her probably narcissistic one has led and kept me here.  I feel a lot better now.  I still don't care if anyone posts here lol.

Glad you feel better.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on January 07, 2020, 08:47:32 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised....    :-\

He comes back here to whine and snivel and tell JMT what a **** job he’s doing and let him know he has a solution to his personal problems and you expect people not to call him out a bit?

I never said JMT was doing a bad job.  He's a decent mod.  It's not his fault you're a jerky jerkface. (please mark this post as "dumb").
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 08, 2020, 07:24:39 am
Hey I am moderating again! :D

Lots of comments removed.

Personal Stuff doesn't mean insults.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on January 08, 2020, 11:43:16 am
You're drunk with power.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 09, 2020, 06:53:21 am
Power is never worth having unless you can abuse it. Same with lots of things.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 09, 2020, 07:00:42 am
Who voted OLD!?

Ok folks, we're heading into the heart of the winter 💓

Take care, it's a tough grind.

Easy and Joan and I are going to look into a gym tonight.

 :P
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 09, 2020, 02:14:05 pm
Babies go to gyms now?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 09, 2020, 03:22:55 pm
Babies go to gyms now?

I was surprised myself.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 11, 2020, 08:00:16 am
The gym happened.  Easy has a little play area with somebody watching him, and he loves it.  It's going to help him get used to independence, not that he has shyness or anything right now.

Easy loves these dance videos and tries to dance.  I like them because the 90s dance music contributes a beat to our background noise. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0fk5L1ifbo

Also those bodies....

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on January 11, 2020, 09:43:33 am
Ankle biters love to dance. No learned inhibitions yet.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 25, 2020, 07:23:14 am
Ok... I need a day off from work bullshit.  Ms Chan is whiplashing the team and not protecting us from VP bullshit.

This stresses me out, but unlike the past I am not looking for a job yet.

Joan wants to go to a social event... Chinese New Year's celebration with friends.  Timing?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on January 25, 2020, 08:08:57 am
My brother is on vacation in Cancun.  He was having a good time with his fiancee.  He got a message from one of his colleagues that they had an emergency meeting at the jail where he worked.  They're closing it in two months.  He's not really upset - other than the fact that he just bought a house he's pretty mobile.  It's a big deal for some of the other long time employees who have families though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 25, 2020, 08:57:53 am
To my mind, we have to start providing a bigger cushion for displaced people than we have today.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on January 27, 2020, 11:08:06 am
To my mind, we have to start providing a bigger cushion for displaced people than we have today.

Basic income would cover that temporary interruption in earnings too ... with no paperwork or bureaucratic processing!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on January 27, 2020, 01:18:14 pm
Basic income would cover that temporary interruption in earnings too ... with no paperwork or bureaucratic processing!

I think you can marry liberal and conservative viewpoints if you "invest in people", with the stated goal of getting them off assistance.  That's the common value that would bind pretty much all people, but the devil would be in the details.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 01, 2020, 01:11:47 pm
Had our trip to Vegas.  It was wonderful and incredible and delightful.

I have been depressed ever since coming home. I want to go back to Vegas.

We had a big fight right after coming home.

Also her ex had a DUI and she's very worried about him and his alcohol problems, and it bothers me more than it should.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 01, 2020, 01:32:13 pm
Like, actually depressed?  Or just wishing you could go back?   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 01, 2020, 01:36:01 pm
Like, actually depressed?  Or just wishing you could go back?

Either having a serious case of post-vacation letdown, or January blahs, or both. Just not happy right now. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on February 01, 2020, 02:09:38 pm
Either having a serious case of post-vacation letdown, or January blahs, or both. Just not happy right now. 

 -k

Without my medication and BetterHelp, I wouldn't be where I am now.  I can't believe how I felt a month ago...that I only knew how to feel bad.  If you need help, don't be afraid to seek it out.

BTW, despite the price, I'd recommend better help to anyone.  It's changed my life.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on February 01, 2020, 02:15:33 pm
Who voted OLD!?

Ok folks, we're heading into the heart of the winter 💓

Take care, it's a tough grind.

Easy and Joan and I are going to look into a gym tonight.

 :P

I looked into a gym once ...
Sweaty people, sweaty smells, yuck.

Oh ... and viruses ... doctor told me to stay away.  Lol
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 01, 2020, 02:37:58 pm
I looked into a gym once ...
Sweaty people, sweaty smells, yuck.

Oh ... and viruses ... doctor told me to stay away.  Lol

I got challenged once to look into a karate dojo, so I did, just to meet that challenge. Ended up joining the club, buying a Gi and hanging around for three years. Never felt better. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 01, 2020, 08:11:10 pm
I looked into a gym once ...
Sweaty people, sweaty smells, yuck.

Oh ... and viruses ... doctor told me to stay away.  Lol

I wanted to do it in January and we did.  Baby, mama and papa all go and baby plays with other babies for 45 minutes.  It's the natural anti-depressant.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on February 01, 2020, 11:17:40 pm
Without my medication and BetterHelp, I wouldn't be where I am now.  I can't believe how I felt a month ago...that I only knew how to feel bad.  If you need help, don't be afraid to seek it out.

BTW, despite the price, I'd recommend better help to anyone.  It's changed my life.

That's awesome to hear.  Glad you're in a better place now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 02, 2020, 10:50:56 pm
Without my medication and BetterHelp, I wouldn't be where I am now.  I can't believe how I felt a month ago...that I only knew how to feel bad.  If you need help, don't be afraid to seek it out.

BTW, despite the price, I'd recommend better help to anyone.  It's changed my life.

Glad you're doing better. :)

For me, I've battled depression before and I know what I'm up against.  My physician and I have a good relationship and I can talk to her about anything.

And having a nice weekend with my sweetie has cheered me up somewhat.  I think it's just a passing thing.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on February 03, 2020, 10:31:36 pm
I think i have a small anal fissure.  True story.  It burns.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on February 12, 2020, 11:22:35 pm
I think i got an std from going a$$-to-mouth.  This is page 69 of this topic btw.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on February 13, 2020, 12:10:16 am
I think i have a small anal fissure.  True story.  It burns.

concerned waldo: get a sigmoidoscopy, stat!

I think i got an std from going a$$-to-mouth.  This is page 69 of this topic btw.

(https://www.hardcorecloser.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/head-up-ass.jpg)

let your referral Doc know about this practice of yours... it might relate to your fissure. Be well!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 13, 2020, 05:07:07 am
 >:(
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 16, 2020, 05:23:18 pm
Long weekend in Ontario.
 
I couldn't find rest from work that has gotten increasingly busy and have a almost stressful now.

Joan's sister is in a bad way and we're starting to wonder if drugs are involved, as her problems seem to have no end or logical explanation.

And Easy is pretty sick.  Feverish and breathing heavily.

Shitty time off.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 16, 2020, 11:21:58 pm
We went to Sick Kids hospital.  The Dr asked if we wanted to give Easy a chest x Ray in case... We did and turned out that he has pneumonia 😔
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on February 16, 2020, 11:38:31 pm
We went to Sick Kids hospital.  The Dr asked if we wanted to give Easy a chest x Ray in case... We did and turned out that he has pneumonia 😔

Well good that it's been diagnosed so treatment can start. My wishes for a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 25, 2020, 11:31:55 pm
Had a delightful Valentine's Day with my sweetie. It was actually Valentine's Weekend, because with the Family Day holiday, it turned into a 3 day celebration.

I am worried that her new work is not going as well as she wants me to think it is. She has taken a part time job waitressing to make extra money, which means I see less of her and I'm worried about her financial situation and whether she's struggling.


I've been summoned for jury duty. The letter says the trial is expected to take 12 weeks. How much crime do you have to commit for the trial to take 12 weeks? Is this like a fucking biker gang trial?  Mass murderer? I'm guessing a 12 week trial must be something pretty big.  I have to get out of this. I'm worried about what this might do to my employer and my employment situation. It's not like I'm working at Superstore-- we're a small business and we don't have a bunch of extra staff who can just come in and pick up what I do. 12 weeks might mean they have to hire a replacement for me and train them, which isn't a small burden for a company our size.  This is stressing me out.  This really sucks.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on February 26, 2020, 06:55:36 am
Tell them you can't afford to be out that long.

Also, if you make a statement during the vetting, indicating that you are very bleeding heart the crown will take you out, I think.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on February 26, 2020, 10:23:48 am
I've been summoned for jury duty. The letter says the trial is expected to take 12 weeks. How much crime do you have to commit for the trial to take 12 weeks? Is this like a **** biker gang trial?  Mass murderer? I'm guessing a 12 week trial must be something pretty big.  I have to get out of this. I'm worried about what this might do to my employer and my employment situation. It's not like I'm working at Superstore-- we're a small business and we don't have a bunch of extra staff who can just come in and pick up what I do. 12 weeks might mean they have to hire a replacement for me and train them, which isn't a small burden for a company our size.  This is stressing me out.  This really sucks.

Yes, Jury duty sucks. While you are obligated to serve, it is worth pleading why it would be difficult in your situation. They sometimes offer a deferment if there is something that you have that conflicts (e.g. long planed prepaid vacation, wedding, etc.); but remember you will be called again. In your situation it appears there is a hardship that you and your employer will face that is beyond normal so it might be worth bringing that up. There are other ways people sometimes gets out of jury duty, but most of them are sleazy and the judge often can see through them if you are lying.

There are some people that are disqualified from serving by the nature of their employment (police officer, lawyer, trustee in bankruptcy, employee of the Ministry of Attorney General, etc.), or if they have been convicted of certain criminal offenses. Some people can get exemptions for medical reasons, if they are a full-time student, limited understanding of English (or French), etc. I am assuming none of these apply in your case.

If you just received your first letter, my guess is you have not been selected for a trial but are at the panel stage. Did the letter actually state trial? A jury panel is essentially a pool of potential jurors, and you must attend a few selection processes over the 12 weeks or whatever they stated. It is during these selection processes that your name may be drawn from a hat to be challenged by the crown or defense attorney. Most criminal trials do not last 12 weeks, typical is less than a week to maybe a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 26, 2020, 10:32:13 am
Had a delightful Valentine's Day with my sweetie. It was actually Valentine's Weekend, because with the Family Day holiday, it turned into a 3 day celebration.

I am worried that her new work is not going as well as she wants me to think it is. She has taken a part time job waitressing to make extra money, which means I see less of her and I'm worried about her financial situation and whether she's struggling.


I've been summoned for jury duty. The letter says the trial is expected to take 12 weeks. How much crime do you have to commit for the trial to take 12 weeks? Is this like a **** biker gang trial?  Mass murderer? I'm guessing a 12 week trial must be something pretty big.  I have to get out of this. I'm worried about what this might do to my employer and my employment situation. It's not like I'm working at Superstore-- we're a small business and we don't have a bunch of extra staff who can just come in and pick up what I do. 12 weeks might mean they have to hire a replacement for me and train them, which isn't a small burden for a company our size.  This is stressing me out.  This really sucks.


 -k

Do your best hangum high redneck imitation at the selection, maybe they won’t want you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on February 26, 2020, 10:37:54 am
Could it be this one?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/260914/Date-set-in-murder-trial

Quote
The trial of three men accused of killing a 20-year old man and leaving his body on a forestry road near the Coquihalla Highway has been set for next summer.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on February 26, 2020, 10:55:38 am
Could it be this one?

That might be one of the sleazy excuses I was alluding to earlier. If it is indeed that trial, then you could read up on all the particulars in the case and form an opinion beforehand. Make it clear during the selection process you know about the case, and say things like are those the three sleeze buckets that killed that poor boy in the forest. The defense will certainly challenge you on that, and you might get out of the trial. The judge however might see through a premeditated scheme on your part and charge you. In many cases you will not be given the opportunity to express anything, and the attorneys will accept you without any questions.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 27, 2020, 11:21:16 am
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on February 27, 2020, 01:57:19 pm
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.

You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 27, 2020, 09:22:50 pm
You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.


So if you are over 65 in BC you won't get a jury of your peers.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on February 27, 2020, 10:01:19 pm
I'm retired and jury duty would be a relatively minor disruption in my life but people over 65 are exempt. I don't get that.

Us under-65'ers have deemed you old spunkers senile racialist gayphobes.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on February 28, 2020, 01:36:09 am
You must live in B.C., I believe that they are the only province that does that. Certainly more people over 65 get medical exemptions than the general population. Also note that a jury is supposed to be of ones peers, so if it was entirely people over age 65 that would be a very biased view.

"A jury of your peers" doesn't mean people of your specific demographic profile.  A woman doesn't get an all female jury, a Muslim doesn't get an all-Muslim jury, or anything like that.  A career criminal doesn't get a jury of other career criminals.   Your peers are your equals-- other free citizens of Canada.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 28, 2020, 09:04:47 am
Us under-65'ers have deemed you old spunkers senile racialist gayphobes.

There seems to be an upside to everything. So get in there and do your duty you lazy progressive pups.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: ?Impact on February 28, 2020, 02:40:27 pm
"A jury of your peers" doesn't mean people of your specific demographic profile.  A woman doesn't get an all female jury, a Muslim doesn't get an all-Muslim jury, or anything like that.  A career criminal doesn't get a jury of other career criminals.   Your peers are your equals-- other free citizens of Canada.

Slight correction, a random sampling of other free citizens. If you only get old farts, then they are not your peers, they are a special interest group (in your words: specific demographic profile) just like the others you listed.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on February 29, 2020, 07:03:37 pm
Slight correction, a random sampling of other free citizens. If you only get old farts, then they are not your peers, they are a special interest group (in your words: specific demographic profile) just like the others you listed.

Shouldn't a jury reflect a cross section of society, including different age groups? I'm not complaining about not having to serve, but I wouldn't try to avoid it either. Could be very interesting.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on February 29, 2020, 10:20:19 pm
Do old people become farts once they start to smell bad?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 01, 2020, 07:58:20 am
Do old people become farts once they start to smell bad?

Mean
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on March 06, 2020, 09:47:57 pm
Do old people become farts once they start to smell bad?

We don't care. : - D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 16, 2020, 07:46:07 am
Day 4 of WFH. 

Joan says play dates are now cancelled with the moms.  She is resisting the urge to go to stores and buy more.  Went for a walk last night and the city was deathy quiet   :P
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 16, 2020, 09:12:28 am
My handwriting is terrible.  I have a note to myself on a post-it on my laptop.  Near as I can figure it says "panther c0ck"
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 16, 2020, 03:28:59 pm
Day 4 of WFH. 

Joan says play dates are now cancelled with the moms.  She is resisting the urge to go to stores and buy more.  Went for a walk last night and the city was deathy quiet   :P

People are idiots....  they think “self isolation” means “don’t dare go outside”! 

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 16, 2020, 07:20:02 pm
People are idiots....  they think “self isolation” means “don’t dare go outside”!

Well... actually it does mean that.  My family had a big argument and bit of research and the Ontario version of it is "stay in your house".   NZ and Netherlands are a little more pragmatic - why not go for a walk ?  But my parents are staying indoors.

I know.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 16, 2020, 08:30:15 pm
Well... actually it does mean that.  My family had a big argument and bit of research and the Ontario version of it is "stay in your house".   NZ and Netherlands are a little more pragmatic - why not go for a walk ?  But my parents are staying indoors.

I know.

Yes, IF you have had the possibility of coming in contact by traveling, etc. Then you should stay in your home.   If you’re just not taking chances, then going outside is fine.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 16, 2020, 09:03:18 pm
Yes, IF you have had the possibility of coming in contact by traveling, etc. Then you should stay in your home.   If you’re just not taking chances, then going outside is fine.

I agree with you but that's not what the literature says.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 16, 2020, 09:10:41 pm
I agree with you but that's not what the literature says.

No that’s not what they’re saying to do.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/self-monitoring-self-isolation-isolation-for-covid-19.html

Recommendations to stay home are only for people who traveled.  Even if you may have been exposed, they say to  “go about your day but avoid crowds”.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 17, 2020, 06:11:15 am
No that’s not what they’re saying to do.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/self-monitoring-self-isolation-isolation-for-covid-19.html

Recommendations to stay home are only for people who traveled.  Even if you may have been exposed, they say to  “go about your day but avoid crowds”.

Yes, my parents travelled so they are to self-isolate:

Quote
Self-isolate means to:

stay at home and monitor yourself for symptoms, even if mild, for 14 days
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 17, 2020, 06:12:01 am
How is Kimmy and her girlfriend doing ?

cyber ?

Chime in people :-\
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 17, 2020, 07:16:54 am
The skin on my hands is getting dry from washing them every time I touch some filthy hazardous door handle.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 17, 2020, 11:27:52 am
Yes, my parents travelled so they are to self-isolate:

 ::)

You failed to mention this relevant fact. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 17, 2020, 11:54:17 am
::)

You failed to mention this relevant fact.

Sure but 'self isolate' only has one meaning on the public health page whether you travelled or not. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 18, 2020, 02:29:11 am
How is Kimmy and her girlfriend doing ?

Feeling pretty down because of all the craziness.  One of my usual hang-outs was open today and I did manage to get my yearly quota of green beer. All the other places I like to visit are closed until further notice. Friends are laid off, businesses are losing money, everything is unsettled, everyone is just waiting for the next shoe to drop. I have never experienced anything like this.

I've recovered from the bad cold I had last week. Linz came over Sunday morning and insisted we have sex. After a week of feeling like the human equivalent of a dumpster fire, it picked me up.   While I was sick she came over with a bunch of food and medicine and tea and stuff to take care of me.  Even though  I'm the one with superhuman physical gifts, legendary kung-fu fighting skills, and mystical powers, she's actually the strong one in some ways. She seldom gets sick, she just shrugs everything off.  She's so good to me.  When I'm mentally all over the place, she's calm and confident.

Lindsey is laid off right now, from her day job as well as her waitressing gig.  I'm back at work.  We have a small office, we don't have customers come and go from our building, we're pretty unlikely to be exposed to anything.  There's only one known case here in town so far, but people are acting like we're in the opening stages of the zombie apocalypse.

We have sunshine now, and I went for a walk last night.  I might as well be outdoors while I'm practicing social distancing. Before too long it'll be time for hiking and kayaking, and I'll be able to self-quarantine for a few hours out on the lake or up in the hills.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 18, 2020, 03:17:37 pm
Self containment going well.  Meeting a colleague/friend for a game of pickleball later (I hope that doesn’t make me sound like I’m 85...).   No contact sport....   Separated by a net, so it should be good!
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 18, 2020, 05:03:18 pm
Self containment going well.  Meeting a colleague/friend for a game of pickleball later (I hope that doesn’t make me sound like I’m 85...).   No contact sport....   Separated by a net, so it should be good!

As long as you stay out of the kitchen and Purell every service change you should be good.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 18, 2020, 05:08:33 pm
I figure golf should be good as long as you keep it to a twosome with a fellow self isolator from the same household..
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 18, 2020, 10:17:18 pm
As long as you stay out of the kitchen and Purell every service change you should be good.

We used separate balls.  No touching the other person’s balls.   

I stumbled into the kitchen a time or two...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 19, 2020, 06:21:08 am
We used separate balls.  No touching the other person’s balls.   
 

This should be a maxim of life...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 19, 2020, 01:19:37 pm
I figure golf should be good as long as you keep it to a twosome with a fellow self isolator from the same household..

Same rule applies...   don’t touch his balls.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 20, 2020, 06:20:51 am
Mental health challenges coming up.

Dealing with my team & organization on the phone all day long is challenging in ways I couldn't anticipate.  Also trapped in with just Easy & Joan isn't great for us.   :'(

I'm available for 1-on-1s if you want to chat/vent
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on March 20, 2020, 11:55:15 am
Take the family for a walk Michael.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 20, 2020, 12:40:43 pm
Mental health challenges coming up.

Dealing with my team & organization on the phone all day long is challenging in ways I couldn't anticipate.  Also trapped in with just Easy & Joan isn't great for us.   :'(

I'm available for 1-on-1s if you want to chat/vent

It’s been a bloody week!!   LOL ???

This could last for months....   likely will...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/social-distancing-isolation-results-1.5503829

Quote
Canada's top doctor says it might be months before we know whether social distancing measures being employed across the country right now are slowing the spread of COVID-19.


Get ready for spending months with them 24/7.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 09:03:41 am
Take the family for a walk Michael.

We do, once or twice a day.  Mostly work is ratcheting up my stress.  Trying to talk to my team's to get work done with sparse internet.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 21, 2020, 12:40:23 pm
We do, once or twice a day.  Mostly work is ratcheting up my stress.  Trying to talk to my team's to get work done with sparse internet.

Sparse internet?   Don’t you live in the biggest city in Canada?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 01:10:24 pm
Sparse internet?   Don’t you live in the biggest forty in Canada?
Yes.  I am switching providers.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: waldo on March 21, 2020, 01:15:23 pm
MH @ Day5 workin' from home!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/uCci7h6.png)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 02:01:35 pm
 Not close.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 03:29:35 pm
We're not doing well.  Not having any other social contacts is wearing on our relationship.  I resent my space being invaded and don't want to share.  Easy is teething and randomly starts screetching at maximum decibel and frequency.

I can't think of a way out of this, unless we take turns going to the park alone.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 21, 2020, 04:04:28 pm
We're not doing well.  Not having any other social contacts is wearing on our relationship.  I resent my space being invaded and don't want to share.  Easy is teething and randomly starts screetching at maximum decibel and frequency.

I can't think of a way out of this, unless we take turns going to the park alone.

Wow...  6 days in.

You may want to strongly consider talking to a counselor.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 04:27:28 pm
Wow...  6 days in.

You may want to strongly consider talking to a counselor.

I guess so.  15 years of marriage and 5 years together before that didn't prepare us for the pile-on of stresses we are in now.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 21, 2020, 05:38:08 pm
We have been given free counselling from work.  It's a phonea session but ok.  Joan is ok with the idea.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 22, 2020, 09:34:30 am
Feeling low.

Joan took it upon herself to watercolour paint red hearts all over the sidewalk out front.  She's gathered some energy and trying to make things better, which is what love is.  She cleaned up the house and put Easy down for a nap.  She says she will take him out for a long walk today.

Myself, I am still low.  I would prefer to just fix my eyes on the laptop, with the TV news on, gravelled voices giving dour info updates.

I watched some TV shows I had saved.   We have indeed run out of shows, maybe the right one will help us get on the same page.  She said ok to counselling, which I will look up.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 22, 2020, 02:05:01 pm
Stop continually watching the news, it will just drag you down. Keep it to once or twice a day. Watch something else. Binge watch something on Netflix, listen to music. Get outside, go for a walk. Anything but continually watching the news on the tube or the computer.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on March 22, 2020, 04:24:45 pm
I guess so.  15 years of marriage and 5 years together before that didn't prepare us for the pile-on of stresses we are in now.

I wish I had a partner during all this chaos.  If this helps to hear... count your blessings. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on March 22, 2020, 04:27:46 pm
Stop continually watching the news, it will just drag you down. Keep it to once or twice a day. Watch something else. Binge watch something on Netflix, listen to music. Get outside, go for a walk. Anything but continually watching the news on the tube or the computer.

I've started power-washing everything.  I did the deck and backyard furniture and the walls and window.  Now I bought waterproof overalls and I'm gonna do all the paving stones and the driveway.     8)

It keeps my mind busy and I almost forget there is a pandemic and looming Great Depression.  Then I watch the news and cry. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 22, 2020, 06:46:12 pm
Into day two of self isolation. It will be an interesting couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 22, 2020, 10:13:26 pm
I walked a few beaches today.  Found some Texada flower stones...   No idea what I want with these things, but among precious stone and rock collectors, they're a thing!  Not the best examples that I've seen from different websites, but they're not bad.

If you believe the "woo", then these stones combat negativity and cynicism, among other things.  Maybe we all need one in our pockets.... 

https://fieldguidetexada.weebly.com/about-flower-rock.html

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 22, 2020, 11:13:43 pm
Self containment going well.  Meeting a colleague/friend for a game of pickleball later (I hope that doesn’t make me sound like I’m 85...).   No contact sport....   Separated by a net, so it should be good!

Pickleball should be halted indefinitely, for the sake of public health.  Not because of the virus, but because of the annoying sound.  Somebody who lives near a pickleball court is going to go on a rampage one of these days.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 22, 2020, 11:37:44 pm
Since she has no job to go to, Lindsey has been dog-walking and shopping for old-people she knows. She's reading everything she can about this and sending me articles and updates from the government websites and stuff like that.   We spent the whole weekend together... it was very nice. We were driving out to do some hiking today, and she pulled over and started crying. She said "Have you been reading about what's happening in Italy?"  and I nodded. "Things are going to get bad here in the next month. Not Italy bad, but bad. And if things get bad, I think we should get married because I don't ever want to be without you."

I got her calmed down and assured her that she wasn't ever going to be without me, and after a while she was feeling reassured enough to drive us to our destination and we went for a hike.

She laughed it off later-- "I'm so neurotic... 'AHHH!  It's the end of the world! Let's get married!' I hope I didn't freak you out..." but it was kind of sobering.  This was the first time she's ever used the M word in regard to us, and it's something I'd never really thought about. It's obviously something she has thought about. I don't think today counts as a proposal, but it made me realize that she's very invested in this. I have responsibilities to her... I guess I already did, but I didn't realize it to this degree.

She's very precious to me, but I never really considered the idea that I could be this important to her. I never considered that I could be this important to anybody, really. It feels strange.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 22, 2020, 11:40:01 pm
If you believe the "woo", then these stones combat negativity and cynicism

It's not working.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 23, 2020, 12:39:28 am
It's not working.

 -k

I don't think it was the rock in my pocket, but it was hard to be negative walking along the beach on such a beautiful day.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 23, 2020, 06:06:37 am
Wow Kimmy, your post took my breath away.

You should absorb the reality emotionally, IMO.  I know it's scary but Lindsay and life are now waiting on a reaction, if not a response.

If you say 'it's strange' or 'I never thought about this', that's just an intellectual observation.  Don't delay the heart.  Obviously I am hoping for you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on March 23, 2020, 07:57:34 am
Well, I haven't been around for awhile.

Turns out I got mono, as an adult. It sucks. It really sucks. Was sick as hell for about a month and now I'm hunkered down trying to avoid COVID-19 because the last thing I need is to be sick again with my immune system already struggling. Hope everyone is doing well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 23, 2020, 02:52:18 pm
Well, I haven't been around for awhile.

Turns out I got mono, as an adult. It sucks. It really sucks. Was sick as hell for about a month and now I'm hunkered down trying to avoid COVID-19 because the last thing I need is to be sick again with my immune system already struggling. Hope everyone is doing well.

That does suck. Keep well.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 26, 2020, 10:09:44 am
I'm still up and down.  Had a real crash last night in the middle of Skype call with friends so I just went to bed.   Wife was displeased with me.

Weather is getting better and that will be great once we get warm days.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 27, 2020, 04:12:09 pm
Putting my inflatable boat on its trailer today.   Going to go trout/bass fishing to stay sane.   Maybe drink Coronas will avoiding CORONA.   Sunday looks like it might be decent weather here.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 27, 2020, 09:43:19 pm
Wow Kimmy, your post took my breath away.

You should absorb the reality emotionally, IMO.  I know it's scary but Lindsay and life are now waiting on a reaction, if not a response.

If you say 'it's strange' or 'I never thought about this', that's just an intellectual observation.  Don't delay the heart.  Obviously I am hoping for you.

Hoping for me to what, though?  I don't think I want to get married because Linz thinks the world is ending.  I'm not sure I ever want to get married at all.

We talked more about it.  She is worried that if the government issues a lockdown order, we could be separated for weeks or months. She wants us to be a single household so that we can be together even if there is a lockdown.  We're not talking about moving in together, but she thinks that if she just does paperwork to say she lives with me, that would be good enough. I'm not sure how lockdown orders work, and hopefully things never get to that stage. But she's worried about the possibility.


Aaaand.... I'm self-isolating, so I won't see her for two weeks anyway.


My co-worker Technical Sales Tom was in hospital (heart attack :( ) and while he was there they tested him for covid and it came back positive. He had no symptoms on Wednesday when he was at work.  And while I also feel fine, I know that the right thing to do is stay home.  Luckily I can do a lot of work from home... I will be in email contact with Good Boss Greg and Ed Engineer, writing the documents and reports they need.

It's possible that he tested positive because he already had covid and recovered.  It's possible that the terrible cold that had me and various others home from work a couple of weeks ago was actually covid and we didn't realize it.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 27, 2020, 09:48:02 pm
Hoping for me to what, though?  I don't think I want to get married because Linz thinks the world is ending.  I'm not sure I ever want to get married at all.

We talked more about it.  She is worried that if the government issues a lockdown order, we could be separated for weeks or months. She wants us to be a single household so that we can be together even if there is a lockdown.  We're not talking about moving in together, but she thinks that if she just does paperwork to say she lives with me, that would be good enough. I'm not sure how lockdown orders work, and hopefully things never get to that stage. But she's worried about the possibility.


Aaaand.... I'm self-isolating, so I won't see her for two weeks anyway.


My co-worker Technical Sales Tom was in hospital (heart attack :( ) and while he was there they tested him for covid and it came back positive. He had no symptoms on Wednesday when he was at work.  And while I also feel fine, I know that the right thing to do is stay home.  Luckily I can do a lot of work from home... I will be in email contact with Good Boss Greg and Ed Engineer, writing the documents and reports they need.

It's possible that he tested positive because he already had covid and recovered.  It's possible that the terrible cold that had me and various others home from work a couple of weeks ago was actually covid and we didn't realize it.

 -k


Smart on all accounts.   No need to rush into anything. 

And smart to self isolate.   Dumb of your boss not to have people work from home if they could right from the start.   
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 27, 2020, 09:55:16 pm

Smart on all accounts.   No need to rush into anything. 

And smart to self isolate.   Dumb of your boss not to have people work from home if they could right from the start.

For me, it's a minor inconvenience to work from home.  For some of the others it's a major hassle.   Also, I like being at work.  I like my co-workers... even Old Economy Steve and Boring Stories Bob.  I am going to miss them a lot, even though it's just a couple of weeks. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on March 27, 2020, 10:07:30 pm
For me, it's a minor inconvenience to work from home.  For some of the others it's a major hassle.   Also, I like being at work.  I like my co-workers... even Old Economy Steve and Boring Stories Bob.  I am going to miss them a lot, even though it's just a couple of weeks. 

 -k

I think it will be more than a few weeks from the sounds of it.  I think most people will be working from home through April.  Beyond that who knows.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on March 27, 2020, 10:24:07 pm
For us, the quarantine is going to be two weeks, which is long enough to know if we got sick from our infected co-worker.

After that our office will be open again, although some people might decide to keep working from home.   We don't interact directly with the public, and because of the nature of our customers (many are medical, law enforcement, first responders, emergency services) we're an essential service.  So while bars and restaurants and similar will be closed for weeks or months to come, our place is going to be back open again as soon as our two weeks is up.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on March 28, 2020, 12:14:21 am
Putting my inflatable boat on its trailer today.   Going to go trout/bass fishing to stay sane.   Maybe drink Coronas will avoiding CORONA.   Sunday looks like it might be decent weather here.

In the beginning I was drinking a lot of Corona because, well I love Corona, but also because I felt bad that they're probably losing a lot of business.

Now that it's all hit the fan I've pretty much gone straight to the hard liquor.  If I live through all this I'll end up an overweight alcoholic... with neurotic kids.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on March 28, 2020, 12:24:48 am
I think it will be more than a few weeks from the sounds of it.  I think most people will be working from home through April.  Beyond that who knows.

Conference calls are not going well with toddlers walking into the background.  I felt like that BBC reporter earlier today when I was in a manager's meeting with all the company's' leadership' and my little one came waltzing in with the older one running to get her and stopping to wave at everyone.

I'd given her $25 I gave her to watch the little one.  I reneged. 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 28, 2020, 06:25:21 am
We have calls with 3 of the folks online having kids yell, cry or play piano.

It's ok.

Kimmy, your gal is falling hard for you.  You owe it to yourself and her to think about that and address it somehow.  I just hear you saying you don't know, that other factors are taking away the urgency to decide etc.  If you don't take a hold of this moment, it will pass and you will have to watch it fade back to the horizon.

Of course I am an irrational romantic, and I want you and L to have a romcom airport moment, followed by love everlasting.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 30, 2020, 01:22:51 pm
Five days of self isolating to go. It will be nice to get out and go for a walk. The basement elliptical for exercise is getting pretty stale and the old basement TV just died so we can't watch that while grinding away. Not sure how far out of the cocoon I want to venture but we can't ask the kids to keep us supplied forever.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 30, 2020, 01:49:32 pm
For me, it's a minor inconvenience to work from home.  For some of the others it's a major hassle.   Also, I like being at work.  I like my co-workers... even Old Economy Steve and Boring Stories Bob.  I am going to miss them a lot, even though it's just a couple of weeks. 

 -k

You should be pushing hard to keep working from home after the 2 weeks.  You do not want this thing, and you don’t want to spread this thing.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on March 30, 2020, 02:03:39 pm
You should be pushing hard to keep working from home after the 2 weeks.  You do not want this thing, and you don’t want to spread this thing.

Agreed, the best thing any of us can do is not become part of the problem.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 30, 2020, 03:10:38 pm
We got grocery pickup today, but didn't go well.  The van wouldn't start after the load-up so that was tense.  We didn't get ANY bread.  Bread ?  They didn't give us toothpaste or infant Tylenol.  Luckily we still have 2 weeks' supply. 

I think we're going to send Joan in on her own early weekend mornings.  Or we can do it during the week and I call in a little late.

Also I got a headache and sniffles after we got back.  Sigh...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on March 30, 2020, 03:17:27 pm
In the beginning I was drinking a lot of Corona because, well I love Corona, but also because I felt bad that they're probably losing a lot of business.

Now that it's all hit the fan I've pretty much gone straight to the hard liquor.  If I live through all this I'll end up an overweight alcoholic... with neurotic kids.

I’ve been drinking my collection of whisky like it’s the End-Times (https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhGtbjQ2wY8AgrerjJqsdQQo4gLZVKqkk4-23NrCpjC8a0kVEuWDao4aAsFYEALw_wcB)!   If this virus takes me out, I’m not taking the chance that someone gets it who can’t appreciate good scotch!! 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: cybercoma on March 30, 2020, 03:38:38 pm
I’ve been drinking my collection of whisky like it’s the End-Times (https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhGtbjQ2wY8AgrerjJqsdQQo4gLZVKqkk4-23NrCpjC8a0kVEuWDao4aAsFYEALw_wcB)!   If this virus takes me out, I’m not taking the chance that someone gets it who can’t appreciate good scotch!!
Put me in your will, just in case
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on March 30, 2020, 09:38:21 pm
PS you can all friend me on FB... :D
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 03, 2020, 12:06:57 pm
It's April 3 and snow pellets are coming down like crazy and sticking to our deck. IN THE FRASER VALLEY IN APRIL FOR CRIPES SAKE. The world has gone nuts.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Granny on April 04, 2020, 07:25:57 pm
It's April 3 and snow pellets are coming down like crazy and sticking to our deck. IN THE FRASER VALLEY IN APRIL FOR CRIPES SAKE. The world has gone nuts.

My first daffodils are blooming.

The city is very quiet.
I can always hear birds.
Everybody's at home being quiet.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 04, 2020, 08:06:23 pm
My first daffodils are blooming.

Fuck your daffodils.

It's April 3 and snow pellets are coming down like crazy and sticking to our deck. IN THE FRASER VALLEY IN APRIL FOR CRIPES SAKE. The world has gone nuts.

Fuck snow. Fuck the Fraser Valley.

PS you can all friend me on FB... :D

Fuck Facebook.

Put me in your will, just in case

Fuck Squidward's will.

I’ve been drinking my collection of whisky like it’s the End-Times (https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhGtbjQ2wY8AgrerjJqsdQQo4gLZVKqkk4-23NrCpjC8a0kVEuWDao4aAsFYEALw_wcB)!   If this virus takes me out, I’m not taking the chance that someone gets it who can’t appreciate good scotch!! 

Fuck the End Times.

You should be pushing hard to keep working from home after the 2 weeks.  You do not want this thing, and you don’t want to spread this thing.

Fuck working from home.

Five days of self isolating to go. It will be nice to get out and go for a walk.

Fuck self-isolating.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 04, 2020, 09:13:12 pm

**** self-isolating.

 -k

We returned from the US on March 20 and have never been happier to be on Canadian soil.  Self isolating was the deal. You can't expect others to do it if you are not willing yourself.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 05, 2020, 12:09:15 am
Playing card games with my spouse.  She’s not happy that I won...    plus, it doesn’t help that I straddle the line with the rules once in a while....
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 05, 2020, 07:37:24 am
I'm starting to think I'll be nostalgic for this time when it's over. I feel horrible for the dying and the economic collapse, but there are hardly any cars in the street and I can feel productive and useful by lying around the house doing nothing. Also, I get along well with my family and now we're all home all the time. Kind of nice.
That being said, fuck this virus.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 05, 2020, 06:37:08 pm
My cat caught a bird....    she has been so good about that up until recently.  It’s been 5 years with hardly an incident....   she could come and go as she pleased.  Well, now she is inside until the birds have left for the evening.  She’s not impressed, but too fucking bad.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JMT on April 07, 2020, 06:57:15 pm
My ex girlfriend is like a plague.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 07, 2020, 07:28:25 pm
My ex girlfriend is like a plague.

Try hydroxychloroquine. There is a guy down south who will give you a deal.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 08, 2020, 01:32:42 am
My bass lures arrived from Amazon....    Time to go fishin’...   




(https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gpsnauticalcharts.com%2Fstatic_html%2Fnautical_charts_app%2Fnautical_chart_images%2FCA_BC_shawnigan_lake.jpg&hash=2981d3b13dc7f8ea5ff18c8f3322322feb1b2e92)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on April 08, 2020, 01:12:33 pm
What's the bass fishing like at Shawnigan lake? I use to do some at Osoyoos Lake but the milfoil there is terrible.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 08, 2020, 01:24:11 pm
Try hydroxychloroquine. There is a guy down south who will give you a deal.

I tried it once and it sure fixed my malaria. Should I be donating blood? I'll call that guy down south for advice.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 08, 2020, 01:39:11 pm
What's the bass fishing like at Shawnigan lake? I use to do some at Osoyoos Lake but the milfoil there is terrible.

Not my video....  some dude whose video convinced me to go give it a shot. 

https://youtu.be/zastuf54xso

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 08, 2020, 04:44:26 pm
New this week...

Easy still getting cuter
People still dying
We're in counselling now
My job isn't better but I stopped caring, and my boss Miss Ling didn't notice... And instead complimented how I have been doing
I am gaining weight

What else is new ?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 08, 2020, 05:40:06 pm
New this week:

- I'm also gaining weight, but starting to exercise
- I'm really bored and sleeping more
- The internet and TV bore me, but the government has banned all activities besides internet and TV
- I've watched every movie ever made
- I haven't been laid off, which is a good thing
- Life is boring
- I try to go for walks outside, but sometimes they are boring
- I masturbate more often now, due to boredom
- My mother says I'm handsome and that i'm an essential service
- I illegally downloaded Avengers: Endgame but probably won't watch it.  But I saw it at the theatre.  It was good.
- I want to start a Fight Club
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 08, 2020, 06:11:06 pm
New this week.

Open the Floodway! It's a FLOOD!
But only 4 new covid cases today in Manitoba. Active cases actually going down.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 08, 2020, 07:43:41 pm
I'm on my last day of quarantine. 

Working from home is hard. I am not getting as much done as I would at work.  Our office is open again tomorrow, but only those who need to be in the office will be there.  I will continue working from home, as will most of the people I work directly with. Alpha Minion, Beta Minion, Milton Minion, and a couple of others will be in the office, but I won't. I miss being with my coworkers.

I went out for a walk Monday night, at a spot that Lindsey and I like to go for walks together. And who shows up? Lindsey.  So we went for a walk, not together but 6 feet apart. Six feet felt like a very long way away.  We tried phone sex for the first time this weekend... I'm not really a talker, so it's not my sort of thing, but it was pretty good.  It wasn't cheesy like I thought it was going to be. Instead of attempting to describe stuff, it ended up being us talking about the things we love about being with each other for an hour and a half.  Tomorrow we're back together and we're going to have in-person sex for at least 8 hours continuously, with maybe a few bathroom breaks.


 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 08, 2020, 09:21:59 pm
TMI

...  well...

Unless you’re Graham.... 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 08, 2020, 10:19:10 pm
. Instead of attempting to describe stuff, it ended up being us talking about the things we love about being with each other for an hour and a half.  Tomorrow we're back together and we're going to have in-person sex for at least 8 hours continuously, with maybe a few bathroom breaks.

I admire this about lesbians.  They can have sex forever.  They don't have d!cks that, like any muscle, can be overused.  Nipples can become chapped though.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on April 08, 2020, 11:22:13 pm
Oh Personal Stuff thread.  Let's see how everyone's doing.

Whoa.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 09, 2020, 05:56:29 am
I'm glad people can be honest about their sexual lives on here.  I can't find it in myself to do this.

Kimmy's story sounds like a softcore/romcom hybrid movie that simultaneously this at the heartstrings and nether regions simultaneously.

Graham's is like a Mad Magazine/Portnoy's Complaint hybrid, ie. mad magazine with whacking it.  Also viable as a movie.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 09, 2020, 10:58:35 am
Oh Personal Stuff thread.  Let's see how everyone's doing.

Whoa.  Never mind.

What?  You don’t like bass fishing?
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 09, 2020, 11:05:06 am
What?  You don’t like bass fishing?

Is that a euphemism ? 
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: JuniperRose on April 09, 2020, 11:31:31 am
I forgot how much nicer this forum is than the other, glad you are all still here and nice to read your more rounded selves.  Thanks to Bubber for a reminder.  Tried to give up both forums, unsuccessfully as usual.  Like trying to leave an exciting, but dysfunctional relationship. 

JP (aka dia, aka dialamah).
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 09, 2020, 07:36:55 pm
Welcome back! :)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 09, 2020, 07:38:57 pm
I'm glad people can be honest about their sexual lives on here.  I can't find it in myself to do this.

Kimmy's story sounds like a softcore/romcom hybrid movie that simultaneously this at the heartstrings and nether regions simultaneously.

Graham's is like a Mad Magazine/Portnoy's Complaint hybrid, ie. mad magazine with whacking it.  Also viable as a movie.

It sounds like Coonlight's story has a fair amount of tugging as well.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on April 09, 2020, 11:36:45 pm
My hairdresser posted a video of some covidiot on facebook.  Against my better judgement I decided to watch because there was something particularly captivating about a beautiful woman spewing insanely stupid shit.

The little voice inside my head kept saying 'just keep scrolling, ignore it, please don't do this' but I couldn't help it.  I had to ask 'do you believe this' to which she replied '100'.

I know she's angry about losing income but Trump hoax, media is the enemy of the people and chem trails is where I draw the line.  I don't know if I need to break up with her.



Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on April 09, 2020, 11:56:29 pm
It sounds like Coonlight's story has a fair amount of tugging as well.

 -k

I see you got the video I sent you.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 10, 2020, 02:22:30 am
My fingers are sore trying to redo some John Prine stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmvPve3pXpE&list=RDwO3yA-ss_TQ&index=3
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 10, 2020, 08:58:38 am
Achievements:
-4 day weekend started
-Taught my elderly parents to use Zoom instead of Skype
-Joan & I are using counsellor techniques successfully
-Naps happening on weeknights also now around 7 pm
-Easy back to 2 naps a day

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 10, 2020, 09:19:24 am
I can't believe how much my dog sleeps. I think she's only awake about 90 minutes of the day.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 15, 2020, 02:00:24 am
SHADY!

I'm glad that you're here.   I feel bad about the way things ended between us.

We know so little about you. Tell us more about the man, the myth, the legend.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 15, 2020, 02:05:38 am
SHADY!

I'm glad that you're here.   I feel bad about the way things ended between us.

We know so little about you. Tell us more about the man, the myth, the legend.

 -k

Sounds like a bit of a personal event.
I know a lot about him.
Hard right conservative who supports an idiot such as trump.
All you have to do is read a little Kimmy.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 15, 2020, 02:15:09 am
Yep so after my 2 week quarantine me and Linz were reunited for the Easter long weekend. We had basically 4 exhausting days together, with a few breaks for me to stop and feed the cat (which is not a euphemism, it's me taking care of my actual feline companion.) So things are good in that respect.  She's so annoyingly sweet and positive. She's constantly reading the latest news, she's very up to date on all of the COVID stuff. While I try to keep working, she provides me with COVID news. "The stuff about the long term care facilities? Don't read it. Just... don't read it," she tells me. I go read it anyway. It makes me furious, but I can't tell her I feel furious because then she'll know that I didn't listen when she told me to not read it. So... I dunno. I pretend I don't know anything and make sad faces when she tells me the latest.

Oh yeah, my dad is in the hospital. Not for COVID, but because of kidney problems.  I inherited bad lungs from dad, now I am wondering if I inherited bad kidneys as well. I'm barely on speaking terms with my parents. So this isn't super emotional for me. But wondering how much more genetic junk I've inherited is a little stressful.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 15, 2020, 02:17:37 am
Sounds like a bit of a personal event.
I know a lot about him.
Hard right conservative who supports an idiot such as trump.
All you have to do is read a little Kimmy.

fuck your couch, nigger.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 15, 2020, 09:10:49 am
**** your couch is some kind of millennial insult I take it...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 20, 2020, 10:40:02 pm
**** your couch is some kind of millennial insult I take it...

"I'm Rick James, bitch."  Google it, Michael.  I don't think you're fully part of the Interwebs until you've seen Charlie Murphy's "True Hollywood Stories" starring David Chappelle as Rick James.  (https://www.funnyordie.com/2007/10/4/17695482/charlie-murphy-s-true-hollywood-stories)

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 20, 2020, 10:51:23 pm
"CHARLAYYYY MURPHAYY!!!"

Once of the truly iconic videos from the earlier ages of the internet, when videos going "viral" was still a new notion.  In the same rarified air as the SNL "Cowbell" sketch, the Superfriends "WASSAAAP!!!" video, and "All Your Base".

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 20, 2020, 10:53:09 pm
So dad is home from the hospital now. He's not dead, which is good I suppose.  They used laser beams to fix his kidney, or something like that. 

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 21, 2020, 06:57:55 am
We had our second family counseling session and I am hoping that the therapist is thinking we're wasting our money.

The issue of me throwing dirty yogurt cups in the sink has been mediated...l  ::)

But I care... It's just that it seems that we will spend $1000 discussing... As we fix things as we always have...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on April 23, 2020, 11:50:49 am
So, uh...

 ...my boss's wife had this idea that she wants to introduce me to someone.   This isn't a first... lots of people have tried to play matchmaker for me.  What's unique is that this is the first time someone has offered to introduce me to a woman.

I have had a strange tingly feeling for about 4 hours.  Not at the idea of meeting potentially a new partner. This isn't my first rodeo. It's different, hard to put into words. I feel ... accepted?

People I have worked with for a while and feel comfortable with know that I prefer to be with women... my first serious girlfriend even came to a company Christmas party one year. Nobody has said anything negative, at least while I was in earshot. Everybody is polite and tolerant and I even get some good-natured teasing from time to time. So it's not that I have felt negative feelings from my co-workers.  But this was different. This wasn't just tolerance, this was someone reaching out and acknowledging and accepting and supporting me for what I am, and it felt strangely wonderful in a way I had never expected.  A half hour after we had talked, I replayed the conversation in my head, and almost cried from happiness or relief or something. I felt as if some kind of weight had been removed from me. I didn't know I needed this in my life.   


So that lady died unexpectedly this week. I'm kind of in shock over it.  I wasn't close with her, but it still hit pretty hard.

I heard that it was a gall bladder thing that went untreated until way too late. With the covid situation, people don't want to be a burden on the medical system so they are keeping their aches and pains to themselves. People aren't going to see the doctor even when they should.

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on April 24, 2020, 01:10:16 am
My GP is in ICU with COVID. 

My heart is broken, I love that man so much.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 24, 2020, 02:11:27 am
My GP is in ICU with COVID. 

My heart is broken, I love that man so much.

Wow... my heart goes out to you and your family.  Hoping he pulls through.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on April 24, 2020, 06:15:50 pm
Wow... my heart goes out to you and your family.  Hoping he pulls through.

Thanks.  He's been mine and my parents' doctor for almost 15 years.  He is the most empathetic and caring doctor I've ever known. 

Apparently he got sick working in ER.   :'(
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Post by: the_squid on April 24, 2020, 06:29:09 pm
Thanks.  He's been mine and my parents' doctor for almost 15 years.  He is the most empathetic and caring doctor I've ever known. 

Apparently he got sick working in ER.   :'(

That sucks.  When it happens to friends, it hits close to home.  Hope he turns out ok.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: the_squid on April 26, 2020, 12:07:44 am
My spouse doesn’t want me to buy a gong.   I disagree with her. 

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1625/3363/products/sg15040_3_1024x1024.jpg?v=1527285156)
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Omni on April 26, 2020, 12:24:59 am
My spouse doesn’t want me to buy a gong.   I disagree with her. 

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1625/3363/products/sg15040_3_1024x1024.jpg?v=1527285156)

Oh, when you said "gong" I reached for my pipe. ;D

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on April 26, 2020, 06:23:31 am
1 piece of brownie... Kind of worth it but I have problems sleeping  ???
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 07, 2020, 09:54:19 pm
MIKARU! Give Lunch!!

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 07, 2020, 10:02:51 pm
So Lindsey and I were talking more about the marriage thing.  She seems to think it's a really good idea.  Earlier she was scared that if there was a major COVID lockdown, she'd still be able to take care of me if we were married.  She's still talking in practical terms... if something happened of me and she needed to write cheques for me or something like that, for example. That was one of the things she was talking about.

Then she was talking about stiff like whether we'd have a big wedding or just go to City Hall, or whatever.  She already had the big church wedding so she doesn't need to do that again. I have never had that, but since it would be mostly for my parents and since I'm barely on speaking terms with my parents, there's no need to worry about it. So we wouldn't need to do a big thing. Or we could go to Vegas and get married by an Elvis impersonator, or get married on a beach in Hawaii or whatever.

Anyway. I still feel weird about it.

  -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: wilber on May 07, 2020, 10:06:16 pm
So Lindsey and I were talking more about the marriage thing.  She seems to think it's a really good idea.  Earlier she was scared that if there was a major COVID lockdown, she'd still be able to take care of me if we were married.  She's still talking in practical terms... if something happened of me and she needed to write cheques for me or something like that, for example. That was one of the things she was talking about.

Then she was talking about stiff like whether we'd have a big wedding or just go to City Hall, or whatever.  She already had the big church wedding so she doesn't need to do that again. I have never had that, but since it would be mostly for my parents and since I'm barely on speaking terms with my parents, there's no need to worry about it. So we wouldn't need to do a big thing. Or we could go to Vegas and get married by an Elvis impersonator, or get married on a beach in Hawaii or whatever.

Anyway. I still feel weird about it.

  -k

I think a US wedding is out of the picture for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: kimmy on May 07, 2020, 10:09:53 pm
I think a US wedding is out of the picture for the foreseeable future.

Honestly I'm not in a rush for any sort of wedding...

 -k
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 08, 2020, 09:10:08 am
MIKARU! Give Lunch!!

 -k

So since October she is my direct boss.  This means the 1-in-a-billion chance office romance is now likely off the board as she knows how old I am now...  But we are helping each other still, so growing closer as ... friends ?  She definitely admires me in a way that surprises me, so mutual admiration is a good foundation. 

But we are really different, so our relationship (now I'm being serious, so I mean work relationship) seems odd to me.

I am fascinated with her life journey...
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: BC_cheque on May 27, 2020, 04:55:13 pm
How is everyone doing?  Better I hope.

As much as I hate the term, I am now pretty used to 'the new normal'.  I'm finally getting stuff done instead of reading the news incessantly for death counts and finding unhealthy means of escape. 

I'm not sending my kids to daycare/school and still working from home.  In some ways, I'm starting to forget the pre-pandemic days and find it weird when I see people in movies touching each other other or going to out to bars/restaurants.

I still don't know when/if my GP will come back but at least the anxiety is gone. 

Looking forward to Bill Gates putting his microchip in me.

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 27, 2020, 07:34:11 pm
How is everyone doing?  Better I hope.

As much as I hate the term, I am now pretty used to 'the new normal'.  I'm finally getting stuff done instead of reading the news incessantly for death counts and finding unhealthy means of escape. 

I'm not sending my kids to daycare/school and still working from home.  In some ways, I'm starting to forget the pre-pandemic days and find it weird when I see people in movies touching each other other or going to out to bars/restaurants.

I still don't know when/if my GP will come back but at least the anxiety is gone. 

Looking forward to Bill Gates putting his microchip in me.

Thanks for asking. 

I am doing ok, but like the convict I am getting used to my jail :(  I also find it weird to see people in restaurants in entertainment, more so when I see shots of the US.

Getting by...

Things that have helped:

I'm cooking more
Rediscovered edibles
Online board games with friends via Tabletop Simulator Online™
Walks every single morning
Air conditioning (lately)

Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: Gorgeous Graham on May 27, 2020, 07:43:49 pm
Work at home has picked up, so things are easier as there's more to occupy my time.  Also weather is nicer so i go for walks and starting to jog.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 30, 2020, 06:31:11 am
Looks like I'm going to try to switch jobs during this... just announced we're working from home 'til at least September.
Title: Re: Personal Stuff
Post by: MH on May 30, 2020, 08:10:43 am
Saw a streetcar at 9 am on Saturday, near the end of the line that looked normal for a Saturday.... maybe 20 people aboard.