Canadian Politics Today
Beyond Politics => General Discussion => Topic started by: kimmy on April 11, 2018, 09:42:35 pm
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Well, most of the Canadian NHL teams really sucked this year. But two of them-- the Winnipeg Jets and Toronto Maple Leafs-- emerged as forces to be reckoned with! Can either of our remaining teams return the Stanley Cup to its rightful home?!
The Jets began the playoffs tonight with a victory over the Minnesota Wild. The game was not as close as the 3-2 score made it appear. The Maple Leafs spring into action tomorrow night against the Bruins.
In the Western Conference, I will be cheering on the Jets. In the East, I will cheer for the Leafs, and the New Jersey Devils as well. Taylor Hall has always been a favorite player of mine, and I will cheer for him as far as he can carry the Devils.
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The Maple Leafs got a much-needed win tonight, to get back in their series. And the Jets lead their series 2-1.
Elsewhere, the mighty Capitals look to be on the bring of pulling another of their famous playoff chokes, and the Ducks are getting massacred by San Jose. Aside from those two series everything seems very competitive in the first round.
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Kings ... gone! Ducks... gone! Sharks and Golden Knights advance! The Golden Knights are the only NHL team that has never lost a playoff game.
Jets poised to advance. Leafs are up tonight. Devils on the brink of elimination.
Predators and Penguins a win away from the second round.
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The Winnipeg Jets have powered through to the second round with a convincing series win over the Minnesota Wild! This is the first playoff series win in Winnipeg in 30 years! And for the Atlanta Thrashers-turned-Winnipeg Jets franchise, it's the first playoff series win ever. Winnipeg is going mental with excitement!
Elsewhere, the Flyers avoided elimination against the Penguins. And the Colorado Avalanche received an epic goaltending performance from third-stringer Andrew Hammond to resist elimination against the Nashville Predators. I watched most of this one, and it was jaw-dropping to see the Predators so completely dominate this game, yet not be able to put anything past Hammond.
Tonight! The Maple Leafs need to win in Boston if they want to stay alive. Go, Leafs!
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Perhaps a career as a sports broadcaster is in your future! :)
The Winnipeg Jets have powered through to the second round with a convincing series win over the Minnesota Wild! This is the first playoff series win in Winnipeg in 30 years! And for the Atlanta Thrashers-turned-Winnipeg Jets franchise, it's the first playoff series win ever. Winnipeg is going mental with excitement!
Elsewhere, the Flyers avoided elimination against the Penguins. And the Colorado Avalanche received an epic goaltending performance from third-stringer Andrew Hammond to resist elimination against the Nashville Predators. I watched most of this one, and it was jaw-dropping to see the Predators so completely dominate this game, yet not be able to put anything past Hammond.
Tonight! The Maple Leafs need to win in Boston if they want to stay alive. Go, Leafs!
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Penguins advance! Predators advance! Capitals advance!
Toronto Maple Leafs avoid elimination! The Leafs have used opportunistic scoring, tenacious penalty-killing, and lots and lots of Frederik Andersen to win two straight games and tie their series against Boston. Game 7 is Wednesday night.
The game was obviously overshadowed by the events elsewhere in Toronto yesterday, but the Leafs gave Toronto something to cheer about anyway.
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The Leafs gave a heroic effort, and leading 4-3 with just 1 period to go, seemed poised to complete the comeback. But the roof caved in in the 3rd period tonight.
Former Oilers enforcer Louie DeBrusk scored 24 regular season goals and 2 playoff goals in his career. His son Jake scored 16 goals in his very first NHL season, and unfortunately for the Leafs, also scored 5 goals in his very first playoff series, including 2 tonight, of which the second was the game winner for the Bruins.
I once met Louie DeBrusk in person, sometime back in the 1990s when I was a kimlet. Imagine a brick wall wearing a dress shirt and you have a rough idea.
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Watched most of the game !
There is something different about the squad, and the fans too. For good and bad, I suppose. I work pretty much beside the ACC and the fans are the bougie folks you would expect to pay $500 a tick.
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Looks like the Leafs are on the right track though. Reason for Toronto fans to be optimistic.
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Yes, they look like they are going places. I have never been a Leafs fan, but I find the current group to be an entertaining and likeable bunch.
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Meanwhile! The Winnepeg Jets -- the #2 team in the NHL-- resumed their playoff quest last night! Unluckily for them, their opponent is the Nashville Predators-- the #1 team in the NHL. Despite being heavily outshot, the Jets stole a 4-1 win. The score is flattering to the Jets, whereas the shot-clock is flattering to the Predators. It was a very close game. Although the Predators had 48 shots on net, many were of the long distance/low traffic variety that posed no challenge for Winnipeg's superstar goaltender Connor Hellebuyck.
The Las Vegas Golden Knights announced their arrival in the second round on Thursday by crushing the Sharks 7-0. That series resumes tonight. The Bruins and Lightning start their series tonight.
The remaining series is one of the most intense rivalries of recent years-- Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh Penguins. The Penguins always seem to have the Capitals' number. They won the first game of the series on Thursday. That series, as well as Jets-Predators, continues on Sunday.
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Yes, they look like they are going places. I have never been a Leafs fan, but I find the current group to be an entertaining and likeable bunch.
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Me either but I will root for a Canadian team over any other country, even Toronto.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. Canucks go backwards in draft lottery again. Never a #1 pick in their 48 year history.
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It took two overtime periods and a disallowed goal, but the Golden Knights have been defeated for the first time. They gave up just 3 goals in the whole of the first round, but gave up 3 goals in the 2nd period last night, and the Sharks added a 4th in the 2nd overtime period. The Knights appeared to have won the game in the first overtime, but the goal was overturned due to goaltender interference.
Watching the Golden Knights is completely mystifying. Where did they come from? How did they get so good? Certainly everybody knew Marc-Andre Fleury was a star. And the Knights were able to acquire some quality defencemen in the expansion draft. But at forward, James Neal and David Perron were the only guys on their roster that had any credentials as scorers. Eric Haula has been around the league for years, and never scored much, but had 29 goals this year. Marchessault and Reilly had some success with the Florida Panthers, but I guess nobody noticed because they were with the Panthers. This year Marchessault had 75 points. Who had even heard of him before this year? William Karlsson had 3 goals, 9 goals, 6 goals in his previous 3 seasons... this year, 43 goals. That's insane! The people who scouted all these guys for the Knights in the expansion draft did an amazing job of finding all these gems.
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The second round is incredibly competitive! All four series look like they could go 6 or 7 games.
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Winnipeg had a chance to advance to round 3 tonight, but they laid an egg. Their series will go to game 7 in Nashville. The remaining series have all been decided.
Winnipeg or Nashville will face the Las Vegas Golden Knights in the Western Conference final. The Knights continue to impress and beat the Sharks in 6. They're like some kind of underdog sports team movie come to life.
The Washington Capitals finally managed to defeat the Pittsburgh Penguins in a series. This is the fifth time the teams have faced each other in a playoff series since Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin have been on their teams, and it's the first time that Ovechkin and the Capitals have won. They must feel like they have gotten a huge monkey off their backs. Life does not get easier for them, as they will face the Tampa Bay Lightning in the Eastern Conference final.
Tampa Bay, after getting blown out in the first game, came back and won 4 straight over Boston. They have been making this look extremely business-like, and could be a very tough opponent for Washington.
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Winnipeg vs Washington in the final ?
Battle of the Ws. You would probably see huge ratings in Toronto for a Canadian team in the final once again. Especially not Ottawa.
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Tampa Bay, after getting blown out in the first game, came back and won 4 straight over Boston. They have been making this look extremely business-like, and could be a very tough opponent for Washington.
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Good, had enough of Marchand. Such a good player but an even bigger ****.
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Good, had enough of Marchand. Such a good player but an even bigger ****.
With his skill, he doesn't need to be doing weird ****... at some point you just have to wonder "what the **** is this guy's problem?"
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The Winnipeg Jets advance to the final four!
Connor Hellebuyck, Dustin Byfuglien, Mark Schiefele, and Blake Wheeler have all been powerhouses during the playoffs. Being able to add a guy like Paul Stastny at the trade deadline to a team that was already very strong turned out to be a great move as he has also been a leader for the Jets. This was a really great series.
The Jets kick off the 3rd round on home ice against Las Vegas, starting Saturday. I can only imagine that Winnipeg must be completely insane with excitement right now.
Meanwhile the Capitals looked very energized after beating their arch-nemesis, as they cruised past Tampa Bay tonight. Although the score looks close, the game didn't look very close, to my eyes at least. It was 4-0 when I left and the Lightning weren't remotely competitive. They will have to get it in gear in a hurry. Of course, they got blown out in their first game against Boston and then won four straight. I had thought Tampa might be the favorite among the remaining teams, but they certainly didn't look like it tonight.
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http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/blocking-shots-a-big-part-of-jets-success-in-game-1
Jets take game ONE. I feel some impending patriotism here.
If there's anywhere where I can get sentimental, it's with NHL Hockey. Bettman can eat it. Floating shitty teams in 1/2 empty arenas in Atlanta while Quebec City, Hamilton don't have one...
GO JETS
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http://winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets/blocking-shots-a-big-part-of-jets-success-in-game-1
Jets take game ONE. I feel some impending patriotism here.
If there's anywhere where I can get sentimental, it's with NHL Hockey. Bettman can eat it. Floating shitty teams in 1/2 empty arenas in Atlanta while Quebec City, Hamilton don't have one...
GO JETS
uhhhhhh that shitty team in the half-empty arena in Atlanta IS the Winnipeg Jets. They are literally the exact shitty team that left Atlanta.
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uhhhhhh that shitty team in the half-empty arena in Atlanta IS the Winnipeg Jets. They are literally the exact shitty team that left Atlanta.
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I KNOW that. I am minorly obsessed with hockey teams and expansion teams.
What was the original location of the two NHL Denver teams ? And where are they now ? And where have they been ?
6 points possible for correct answers.
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I KNOW that. I am minorly obsessed with hockey teams and expansion teams.
What was the original location of the two NHL Denver teams ? And where are they now ? And where have they been ?
6 points possible for correct answers.
uhhhhh I know that the Colorado Avalanche started as the Quebec Nordique. And I know that the New Jersey Devils were the Colorado Rockies, and before that the Kansas City Scouts. Did I get them all? I feel I must be missing something because we're not up to 6 points yet. In the spirit of sportsmanship I won't resort to Google.
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Meanwhile! The Washington Capitals look unstoppable right now! I tuned in tonight at the start of the second period, and was thinking "Tampa has finally showed up for the series... they look really good tonight." And they did... until the last half of the second period, at which point Washington took the lead late, and scored a last second to make it 4-2... and they just kept going in the third period. The Capitals are cruising right now. They won both games in Tampa convincingly and head to home ice up 2-0 in the series.
I am sure Trump will take credit for this.
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If there's anywhere where I can get sentimental, it's with NHL Hockey. Bettman can eat it. Floating shitty teams in 1/2 empty arenas in Atlanta while Quebec City, Hamilton don't have one...
I think some of the Canadian snobbery in regard to teams in non-wintery climates is kind of unwarranted. People said hockey would never work in Florida, but the Tampa Bay Lightning are very well supported. It took a while, but Nashville has embraced the Predators bigly.
The Leafs' superstar was born in California, grew up in Phoenix, and wanted to play hockey because he watched the Phoenix Coyotes when he was a kid.
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uhhhhh I know that the Colorado Avalanche started as the Quebec Nordique. And I know that the New Jersey Devils were the Colorado Rockies, and before that the Kansas City Scouts. Did I get them all? I feel I must be missing something because we're not up to 6 points yet. In the spirit of sportsmanship I won't resort to Google.
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5/6 points. If you did that from memory that is excellent. I happened to be looking at WHA team history and the Nordiques started in San Francisco, though they didn't ever play a single game there before they were moved to Quebec !
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Meanwhile! The Washington Capitals look unstoppable right now!
They were known as the Crapitals in the 1970s. And soon they will be/could be champs.
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It was the lack of expansion teams in the first place that led to the creation of the National Hockey Association, later renamed the National Hockey League. The only original team still in the the NHL is Les Canadiens of Montreal, but the Stanley cup was brought to the league by the Ottawa Senators after they won it in the Canadian Hockey League (the league that didn't allow the expansion teams in the first place) and then moved over to the NHA the next year. Note that those Ottawa Senators folded in the 50's.
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The Golden Knights and the Lightning have both answered back to get back in their series. The Knights won game 2 in Winnipeg, and the series goes to Vegas tied 1-1. The Lightning slowed down the Washington hype-train last night in a must-win game. Jets are back in action tonight in Las Vegas... the Jets have been awesome on the road in the playoffs, so I doubt that home ice advantage helps the Knights too much.
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It is now officially Panic Button Time in both Winnipeg and Washington! The Jets have lost 3 games in a row to the Golden Knights, and are now on the brink of elimination. Game 5 in Winnipeg could be their last if they don't get it in gear. As for the Capitals, they started off with two convincing wins in Tampa, but the Lightning have roared back and won both games in Washington to regain home ice advantage. The Lightning have all the momentum right now as the series returns to Tampa Bay today.
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And it is all over for Winnipeg. :( It was an exciting run while it lasted.
It is absurd to me that an expansion team built from players that other teams felt were expendable is now going to the Stanley Cup finals.
MEANWHILE IN DENMARK
Sweden has defeated Switzerland to repeat as champions of the International Ice Hockey Federation tournament. Sweden went undefeated, 10-0 at the tournament. They were bolstered by a group of players from the Nashville Predators who joined the team after the Predators were eliminated by Winnipeg. They were pretty much unstoppable. Sweden winning the tournament isn't a huge shocker. What is a huge shocker is Canada being beaten by Switzerland in the semi-final.
Canada faced the USA in the bronze medal game, and lost 4-1. Sad.
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I expect changes in the next expansion draft. Teams had to leave more players unprotected when Vegas entered the league than in any previous expansion. Give credit to Vegas management but it looks like the league over did it, considering that their whole team was made up of existing NHL players and none of their new drafts.
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I expect changes in the next expansion draft. Teams had to leave more players unprotected when Vegas entered the league than in any previous expansion. Give credit to Vegas management but it looks like the league over did it, considering that their whole team was made up of existing NHL players and none of their new drafts.
They can’t change it for Seattle. Seattle paid the same expansion fee (more?) and expect the rules to be the same. There’s no way the NHL could pull the rug out from them like that.
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Gary Bettman is a disgrace, allowing an expansion team to have such an advantage.
If this was the only way to garner a following in Vegas then why bother.
It's a slap in the face of fans over other teams that have never seen their teams this close to a title only to see the league gift one to Vegas.
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They can’t change it for Seattle. Seattle paid the same expansion fee (more?) and expect the rules to be the same. There’s no way the NHL could pull the rug out from them like that.
There must be some very pissed off owners out there and Bettman works for them. Interesting times.
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Gary Bettman is a disgrace, allowing an expansion team to have such an advantage.
If this was the only way to garner a following in Vegas then why bother.
It's a slap in the face of fans over other teams that have never seen their teams this close to a title only to see the league gift one to Vegas.
I don't think there was a plot to turn the Knights into an instant hockey superpower. It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time. I watched the expansion draft, and I recall analysts looking at the roster after it was done and saying "this is a team with some good defencemen and some scrappy veterans and some serviceable NHLers who'll play hard every night, but they'll struggle to score, and Marc Andre Fleury will be able to steal them some games, but that's about it." Nobody anticipated William Karlsson turning into a top scorer out of nowhere.
When the topic of expansion comes up, a lot of people say "baaah there isn't enough talent in the league as it is, they should be contracting teams, not expanding them." But they've built a very competitive team just by taking an expendable player from each team, so it seems like there's actually lots of NHL-ready depth that wasn't being used to full extent by other teams.
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Last night's game in Washington was pretty great. It has been quite a while since I have seen a hockey team dominate a game the way the Capitals did in the 2nd period. That was truly impressive to watch... but they only got one goal out of it and that didn't seem like nearly enough. It set up a thrilling third, when the Lightning fought back and were getting scoring chances, but Holtby played great to stop everything. A real thriller to force game 7.
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It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time.
http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/19609036/nhl-latest-2017-18-nhl-season-2018-stanley-cup-odds-westgate-las-vegas-superbook
They were given 200 to 1 odds against winning the cup. Everyone thought they would be terrible. (https://deadspin.com/wow-the-golden-knights-are-going-to-be-bad-1796327043)
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Awesome performance by the Washington Capitals in these last two games, to fend off elimination and win the series. This was a really great series.
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I don't think there was a plot to turn the Knights into an instant hockey superpower. It's easy in hindsight to say that they were given too many good players in the expansion draft, but nobody thought that at the time. I watched the expansion draft, and I recall analysts looking at the roster after it was done and saying "this is a team with some good defencemen and some scrappy veterans and some serviceable NHLers who'll play hard every night, but they'll struggle to score, and Marc Andre Fleury will be able to steal them some games, but that's about it." Nobody anticipated William Karlsson turning into a top scorer out of nowhere.
When the topic of expansion comes up, a lot of people say "baaah there isn't enough talent in the league as it is, they should be contracting teams, not expanding them." But they've built a very competitive team just by taking an expendable player from each team, so it seems like there's actually lots of NHL-ready depth that wasn't being used to full extent by other teams.
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It's the fact that there was expansion in the first place with so many markets struggling to draw flies. The only way this market could succeed is if the team was good.
I resent everything that Gary Bettman stands for.
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He also did change the rules to make it better for expansion teams.
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The finals lacked the drama and the high calibre of play of the Capitals vs Lightning series, but they have wrapped up with the result that I think that just about everybody was hoping for. The Washington Capitals have defeated the Las Vegas Golden Knights in 5 games to win the Stanley Cup.
Even though I was not emotionally invested in either of these teams, I have always liked Alex Ovechkin for his skill, his style of play, and his exuberance. I think many fans around the NHL feel the same. It was nice to finally see him shake off the label that he can't get it done when it matters. After all those years of playoff disappointments, the Capitals finally delivered. I was genuinely happy seeing the celebration. It felt good-- it was like seeing Charlie Brown finally kick the football.
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I wonder if all hell would have broke loose if Las Vegas won.
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The Crapitals win. Probably the lowest ratings in Canada and good ribbons.
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Glad to see Ovechkin finally get a cup and enjoyed seeing him celebrate. That was about the only thing that interested me about this series.
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Glad to see Ovechkin finally get a cup and enjoyed seeing him celebrate. That was about the only thing that interested me about this series.
Really? Cuz I don’t think the NHL could have written a better story... 1st year franchise in Vegas gets to Cup... Ovi finally has a chance to annihalate the ghost of not winning a Cup.... Washington makes it to final for 1st time.
Lots of great narratives.
What would appeal to you as a hockey fan?
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Really? Cuz I don’t think the NHL could have written a better story... 1st year franchise in Vegas gets to Cup... Ovi finally has a chance to annihalate the ghost of not winning a Cup.... Washington makes it to final for 1st time.
Lots of great narratives.
What would appeal to you as a hockey fan?
A Canadian team in the final, and winning.
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I'd like to see that too. Barring that, though, I think Ovechkin and the Capitals facing the upstart franchise was probably one of the more interesting things that might have happened. If the Capitals hadn't been in the final, I might not have watched as much of it as I did.
https://youtu.be/zmpP_1VD_6M
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Hey, this thread exists.
JOHN TAVAREZ IS A LEAF!!!!!!!
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Hey, this thread exists.
JOHN TAVAREZ IS A LEAF!!!!!!!
It just struck me that:
MLG has rebooted interest in BOTH their clubs with big signings/trades in the offseason.
...aaaaand....
The Leafs used to do this, and I thought they had eschewed this approach for the 'full rebuild' approach. Dunno.
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Adding Tavares to what they already have should make the Leafs a top tier team, I would think. It's hard to predict exactly how things will turn out, but on paper it sure looks good.
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is Ron Hainsey still their best defenseman? That might be a problem.
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Who are you to doubt Ron Hainsey?
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That's hyperbole, obviously. But the critique of the Leafs for so long was that they didn't have any top-line centres. . . now they have two. And a great goalie to boot. You add Tavarez to a team that got 105 points last year, that only means they're better.
Perhaps a trade for a Defenceman is still in the works.
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Oilers fire Chiarelli as GM.
The problem with the Oilers is that they have 2 failures in Lowe and MacTavish still running things behind the scenes. What a dreadful organization.
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Game 7 Habs/Leafs tonight
I think the Habs win the series tonight. They have a lot of momentum going their way.
The fans in the stands will be 550 healthcare workers.
Great gesture.
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Game 7 Habs/Leafs tonight
I think the Habs win the series tonight. They have a lot of momentum going their way.
The fans in the stands will be 550 healthcare workers.
Great gesture.
Actually they blew 3rd period leads in both games that went to OT.
Game 5 was over pretty quick but in Game 6 Toronto was rather dominant. Carey Price needs to have another amazing game.
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Leafs choke again. Lose in game 7.
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I hate leafs fans, but I feel bad for this team, they had some guys like Jumbo and Spezza I would have liked to see go far.
Jets and Habs both get horribly outplayed and ride their goalies into the second round, what a game.
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The Leafs tried to address their issue with character with Spezza and Thornton.... but i don’t think they could negate the lack of character from players like Nylander and the woman-terrorizing Matthews. I don’t think any of their teammates want to stick their necks out for those guys, who are supposed to be the stars...
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The Leafs tried to address their issue with character with Spezza and Thornton.... but i don’t think they could negate the lack of character from players like Nylander and the woman-terrorizing Matthews. I don’t think any of their teammates want to stick their necks out for those guys, who are supposed to be the stars...
lol I'd take those bad character guys on my team in a heartbeat.
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lol I'd take those bad character guys on my team in a heartbeat.
yup! Nylander definitely showed up throughout the series. The Matthews line was effectively shut down - that's playoff hockey... but who (other than member squiggy) wouldn't want Matthews? If anything the series might reinforce, given limited moves available to the Leafs, that Matthew's RW, (the overpaid, under-performing) Marner, should be an option towards improving the single glaring weakness of the Leafs - defense. Oh wait, what about their goalie head-cases!
it seems member squiggy associates character with simply being a gray-beard... regardless if they've never won the cup!
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Matthews has brought Toronto so close to the cup…. Not.
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I hate leafs fans, but I feel bad for this team, they had some guys like Jumbo and Spezza I would have liked to see go far.
I can't help feeling a bit of schaudenfreude considering how the Toronto media types dumped on the Oilers last week.
Jets and Habs both get horribly outplayed and ride their goalies into the second round, what a game.
This will sound like sour grapes, but if the referees called the playoffs the way they call regular season games, these series would have ended differently. I didn't see enough of the Leafs series to say for sure if the Leafs' best players were clutched and grabbed as much as McDavid and Draisaitl were, but the Oilers series was ridiculous.
I don't know if anybody at NHL HQ is smart enough to notice that two of the league's biggest stars are not in the second round because the referees lose their whistles in the post-season. You'd think that having superstars playing hockey instead of golf at this time of year would be something Bettman and friends would want. But apparently maintaining the playoffs "Let 'em play!" tradition of clutching and grabbing is more important.
lol I'd take those bad character guys on my team in a heartbeat.
I question Mitch Marner being worth $11 million for 4 more years or however long it is. If there wasn't a salary cap then of course. Since there is a salary cap, maybe not.
Matthews has brought Toronto so close to the cup…. Not.
Matthews is 23. Marner is 24. Steve Yzerman didn't win a Cup until he was 32. Ovechkin didn't win a Cup until he was 33. Questions like this hung over their heads until they did. How old was Ray Bourque when he hoisted the Stanley Cup? It's a little early to throw Matthews under the bus.
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Marner and Matthews disappear in the playoffs. Yzerman was a warrior, regardless of age or of his team. Terrible comparison.
I’m not saying they will never win a cup…. They’re good players. But it won’t be them as the core of the team. And it won’t happen if they don’t show an ounce of heart and determination. Not to mention Matthews lack of character off the ice. Yzerman never had that issue. Neither did Borque. Character wins cups.
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Matthews has brought Toronto so close to the cup…. Not.
lol! The 'character guys' mentioned... with no/zero cups: Spezza (37 years old) - 18 NHL seasons; Thornton (41 years old) - 23 NHL seasons. Now these 2 guys have storied careers while making huuuge money over time, but they're obviously well past their prime. I expect given the Leaf's cap constraints, both Spezza & Thornton were signed for just one-year; both making less than the league minimum. Both guys were still chasing the dream - another chance to finally win the cup!
now Matthews: 23 years old - 5 NHL seasons. C'mon waldo, show some restraint - member squiggy is blubbering, 'no mas, no mas'!
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lol! The 'character guys' mentioned... with no/zero cups: Spezza (37 years old) - 18 NHL seasons; Thornton (41 years old) - 23 NHL seasons. Now these 2 guys have storied careers while making huuuge money over time, but they're obviously well past their prime. I expect given the Leaf's cap constraints, both Spezza & Thornton were signed for just one-year; both making less than the league minimum. Both guys were still chasing the dream - another chance to finally win the cup!
now Matthews: 23 years old - 5 NHL seasons. C'mon waldo, show some restraint - member squiggy is blubbering, 'no mas, no mas'!
If Walduh thinks I’m a fan of Spezza, or No-Show Joe, the giant who disappears in the playoffs, Walduh is sadly mistaken. They were invisible. You can’t change the character of a team by bringing in a couple has-been old guys. The character of the team was Marner, who cries in the penalty box when things get tough and the ever-shrinking Matthews…. The “quiet leader who leads by example”. LOL
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Surprisingly interesting discussion 😂
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Marner and Matthews disappear in the playoffs. Yzerman was a warrior, regardless of age or of his team. Terrible comparison.
I’m not saying they will never win a cup…. They’re good players. But it won’t be them as the core of the team. And it won’t happen if they don’t show an ounce of heart and determination. Not to mention Matthews lack of character off the ice. Yzerman never had that issue. Neither did Borque. Character wins cups.
Yzerman had such great character he didn't win a Cup for 13 years and only then after he was surrounded by like 8 other Hall of Famers. Talent wins Cups.
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If Walduh thinks I’m a fan of Spezza, or No-Show Joe, the giant who disappears in the playoffs, Walduh is sadly mistaken. They were invisible. You can’t change the character of a team by bringing in a couple has-been old guys. The character of the team was Marner, who cries in the penalty box when things get tough and the ever-shrinking Matthews…. The “quiet leader who leads by example”. LOL
Joe Thornton: 134 point in 186 playoff games
dISapPeRs iN ThE plYAoFFs
Do you even watch hockey?
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Do you even watch hockey?
clearly the squiggy watches like he talks the game - poorly, very poorly! Now mentioning it multiple times, it seems he also has a bugaboo with the Matthews' dismissed misdemeanour disorderly conduct charge... where, as a drunken young-pup, Matthews dropped trou to moon... revealing his... boxers! It would also seem the character of Matthews was on full display with his 'heartfelt public apology' - ya think, hey member squiggy!
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Joe Thornton: 134 point in 186 playoff games
dISapPeRs iN ThE plYAoFFs
Do you even watch hockey?
He was renowned in San Jose as disappearing once the playoffs started. Some history for you. 10 years ago they were writing about his lacklustre playoff performances. You think he has been better since then?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/663691-nhl-playoffs-no-one-tell-joe-thornton-it-is-playoff-time
Maybe 2016 playoffs changed all that history…. But 1 good run doesn’t make him a great leader. For the most part, his playoff appearances have been lacklustre.
Now, he’s too old and too slow. Perfect for the Leafs. Sign him long term!
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The Canucks losing positions in the draft lottery is as predictable as the Leafs going out in the first round.
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The Canucks losing positions in the draft lottery is as predictable as the Leafs going out in the first round.
They stayed where they were ranked.
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They stayed where they were ranked.
I thought they were ranked seventh. Oh well, if so that's a first.
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That Schiefele hit on Evans was brutal. Skates 200 feet to blow up a vulnerable player icing the game with less than a minute left. Absolute gutter trash so naturally he'll get a fine and a stern talking to from DoPS.
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That Schiefele hit on Evans was brutal. Skates 200 feet to blow up a vulnerable player icing the game with less than a minute left. Absolute gutter trash so naturally he'll get a fine and a stern talking to from DoPS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdb4g0ykAsU
but he was sooooo frustrated with the close checking... but he's not a dirty player... yabut it was a big time chickenshyte move; one that demands, at minimum, a 2 game suspension. So he's having a hearing with DoPS - but not an in-person hearing, so he won't get more than a 5 game suspension - ha, as if!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdb4g0ykAsU
but he was sooooo frustrated with the close checking... but he's not a dirty player... yabut it was a big time chickenshyte move; one that demands, at minimum, a 2 game suspension. So he's having a hearing with DoPS - but not an in-person hearing, so he won't get more than a 5 game suspension - ha, as if!
Him standing there afterwards with that dumb "who, me?" look on his face when you could tell after he threw the hit that he was expecting someone to come at him really takes the cake
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10 years ago they were writing about his lacklustre playoff performances. You think he has been better since then?
ha! That noob who wrote your linked article was going to college at the time he wrote it - pursuing a journalism degree... not even a real, legitimate, bonafide sports writer! Your linked article is dated Apr, 2011 - the waldo is quite taken with this coinciding resume point for your linked to 'writer'... highlighting his clickbait prowess:
Skills - SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
-Acquired while working at Bleacher Report, Inc. I managed to add substantial amounts of reader traffic towards content by identifying key words that would increase page views on popular search engines.
your linked to article was published by the Bleacher Report... which has come a long way since TBS acquired it in 2012. However, wiki provides some insight into the writings of the early days; the early days in which your linked to article was published - enjoy:
Early criticism of Bleacher Report stemmed from the network's initial commitment to an open publishing model. Such critiques cited the fact that all registered users on the website were permitted to publish articles on the site, arguing that Bleacher Report's policy resulted in a glut of low-quality content, which made it difficult for the network's readers to find credible coverage of their favorite teams and sports. It was also argued that the model tarnished the reputation of every writer associated with the Bleacher Report brand, which made it difficult for the network's more talented contributors to build loyal audiences, and that it empowered unqualified writers without editorial oversight, which compromised the prestige and credibility of the sportswriting profession. SB Nation Senior MMA editor Luke Thomas described it as the "Walmart of Journalism" and its MMA coverage "toothless amateur coverage".
Since abandoning the content farm model in 2010, Bleacher Report has been the subject of continued criticism for its exploitation of unpaid contributors, its blanket policy prohibiting writers from breaking their own news, and its high-volume production of low-quality, search-optimized slideshow content. These critiques found their strongest voice to date in an October 2012 SF Weekly article, in which tech columnist and entrepreneur Vivek Wadhwa was quoted accusing Bleacher Report of "dumbing down of the web" with "custom-manufactured garbage." In December 2012, a lampoon article in The Onion played on the same themes. In July 2014, Deadspin published a lengthy narrative written by Tom Schreier, a former Bleacher Report featured columnist. Detailing his journey from hopeful intern to "just one more drone pumping content to get clicked on," in three years, Schreier "wrote over 500 articles, generated nearly three million page views, and received $200 for [his] services."
member squiggy, you said, "they were writing". Do you have more... do you have anything written by a legitimate sports writer?
I said Thornton had a storied career... but, at 41 years old now, was past his prime. A googly has reminded me of the great career he had - you should give it a try, hey!
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Absolute gutter trash so naturally he'll get a fine and a stern talking to from DoPS.
So he's having a hearing with DoPS - but not an in-person hearing, so he won't get more than a 5 game suspension - ha, as if!
You need to do everything you can to stop a goal from being scored. It was a heavy, heavy hit for sure but it was clean.
wow - a 4 game suspension... did not see that coming! I expect the building year-over-year criticism of DoPS's ever increasing inconsistency finally forced the hand of the head of player safety, George Parros.
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Four games seems fair to me. Hopefully the habs take the series before it ends..
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Why not ban him for the series ?
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Why not ban him for the series ?
They don't know what they're doing.
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They don't know what they're doing.
They know exactly what they’re doing…. Game #6 will have quite the buildup to it for his return.
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They should remove hitting from hockey altogether. It is clearly not fit for these times, now that we know how concussions work. They don't need it in women's hockey and that is still exciting to watch.
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They know exactly what they’re doing…. Game #6 will have quite the buildup to it for his return.
Hopefully it doesn't go that long.
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They should remove hitting from hockey altogether. It is clearly not fit for these times, now that we know how concussions work. They don't need it in women's hockey and that is still exciting to watch.
I disagree, they just need to call the f**king rulebook and crack down harder on dangerous plays.
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Why not ban him for the series ?
They need an appropriate enough punishment so the Habs don't feel they need to kick his arse upon the next time he skates against them.
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Jets swept, now the Habs wait to see which of the big boys come out of the Avs/Knights series.
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My Habs fans on Facebook are uvulating with joy at this point. Do they have a hope ?
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My Habs fans on Facebook are uvulating with joy at this point. Do they have a hope ?
If the Avs/VGK go the distance and neither has anything left in the tank and Price continues to be great, they might have a puncher's chance to make the SCF, but that means a likely date with the champs. So to answer your question: lol no.
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My Habs fans on Facebook are uvulating with joy at this point. Do they have a hope ?
Hope so, they have impressed so far. They should send a big thank you to the Canucks for not resigning Toffoli.
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Holy ****, the habs are in the finals.
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Holy ****, the habs are in the finals.
HOLY **** is right.
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holyMoly, the waldo is actually cheering on Corey Perry! Oh my!
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Well. It was a valiant effort, but that's it for this year. I think the Lightning are about as close to a dynasty as you can get in the salary cap era.
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Well. It was a valiant effort, but that's it for this year. I think the Lightning are about as close to a dynasty as you can get in the salary cap era.
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This is how I found out about the game last night.
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Well. It was a valiant effort, but that's it for this year. I think the Lightning are about as close to a dynasty as you can get in the salary cap era.
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It helps when you can just circumvent the cap.
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It helps when you can just circumvent the cap.
How so?
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How so (https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Tampa+Bay+Lightning+circumventing+salary+cap)?
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This is a discussion board Walduh…. I know you only come here to post links and Liberal propaganda, but some of us actually want to have a discussion about these topics.
Now on your way…. Those who aren’t simply partisan hacks are speaking.
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How so (https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Tampa+Bay+Lightning+circumventing+salary+cap)?
This is a discussion board Walduh…. some of us actually want to have a discussion about these topics.
discussion just gets in the way of your dumbTaggin'! But c'mon, the caring & helpful waldo just showed you how easy a googly was.
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Back to sports.
GO HABS !
How they doin' ?
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How so?
They were over the salary cap last year and would have lost some pieces, but Kucherov underwent surgery at the start of this year that conveniently kept him out of the lineup for the entire regular season meaning his salary didn't count to the cap. He was suddenly ready to play at the start of the playoffs when the cap no longer applies.
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They were over the salary cap last year and would have lost some pieces, but Kucherov underwent surgery at the start of this year that conveniently kept him out of the lineup for the entire regular season meaning his salary didn't count to the cap. He was suddenly ready to play at the start of the playoffs when the cap no longer applies.
So it’s part of the injury rules on how injured players are counted towards the cap…. Same for any team. I don’t see the issue.
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Back to sports.
GO HABS !
How they doin' ?
They're doing great! Just 3 more wins to the Cup!
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So it’s part of the injury rules on how injured players are counted towards the cap…. Same for any team. I don’t see the issue.
That Kucherov spent the whole season on Long-Term Injury Reserve but was available right at the start of the playoffs, and played like he hadn't missed a day, gives the appearance of shenanigans. It makes people wonder if it was done deliberately to evade salary cap rules. Kucherov is one of the best (and highest paid) players in the league, and having him parachute into the playoffs onto a team that was already at the salary cap limit seemed like an attempt to skirt the rules.
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...seemed like an attempt to skirt the rules.
scrutinizing waldo: seemingly... the 2.3 kg heavier Vasilevskiy isn't wearing over-sized equipment! Apparently, it's just... "proximity to the camera". Ya ya - cheaters gonna cheat!
(https://i.imgur.com/OX81IVR.png)
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scrutinizing waldo: seemingly... the 2.3 kg heavier Vasilevskiy isn't wearing over-sized equipment! Apparently, it's just... "proximity to the camera". Ya ya - cheaters gonna cheat!
Whiners gonna whine…. And make up conspiracies. They lost. Get over it.
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Get over it.
lil' buddy, why so testy? In any case, I was never under it! And to, as you say, "whine", the waldo would have to care first! More pointedly I could give a rats ass what you have to say about anything. So long as you keep your hands off the phacking dumbTagger, I don't even notice your minutia and trivial & infantile presence!
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scrutinizing waldo: seemingly... the 2.3 kg heavier Vasilevskiy isn't wearing over-sized equipment! Apparently, it's just... "proximity to the camera". Ya ya - cheaters gonna cheat!
(https://i.imgur.com/OX81IVR.png)
Maybe net sizes should be adjustable according to what percentage of the area a goalie takes up. Some of these guys are monsters compared to 25 years ago.
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scrutinizing waldo: seemingly... the 2.3 kg heavier Vasilevskiy isn't wearing over-sized equipment! Apparently, it's just... "proximity to the camera". Ya ya - cheaters gonna cheat!
(https://i.imgur.com/OX81IVR.png)
He was definitely wearing massive pads, i watched video of him not just this photo. That's just a complete joke. They need to shrinks all their pads and/or widen the nets. The pads have been getting bigger forever.
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Terrible photoshop job. Look at their hands.
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Terrible photoshop job. Look at their hands.
Good catch, Wiki says they are the both 6'3" and Price is 12 pounds lighter.
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He was definitely wearing massive pads, i watched video of him not just this photo. That's just a complete joke. They need to shrinks all their pads and/or widen the nets. The pads have been getting bigger forever.
The NHL regulates the size of equipment. Stop believing the stupid conspiracy theories.
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He was definitely wearing massive pads, i watched video of him not just this photo. That's just a complete joke. They need to shrinks all their pads and/or widen the nets. The pads have been getting bigger forever.
I read an article about this last spring. (https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/02/hockey-goalies-are-too-big-now/618021/) The author is Ken Dryden, who knows a bit about the goalie position. While Vasilyevsky is not the only one using absurdly large equipment, he was the example talked about in the article (probably because he won the Stanley Cup last season too.) The article explained that while the focus of goalie equipment rule changes has usually been on the leg pads, the growing issue has been with the chest protector. Vasilievsky wears a huge chest protector that is loosely strapped to his body, and when he drops to his knees (which is almost always) the chest protector hits his thighs and gets pushed upwards, covering more space above his shoulders. The article argues that he could play the whole game on his knees and suggests the only reason he needs to stand up is that people would notice if he played the whole game on his knees.
The problem was right there on the screen: Tampa Bay’s Andrei Vasilevskiy, 6 foot 3, 210 pounds, athletic, fit, one of the very best goalies in the NHL, in the handshake line after the Lightning had won an early-round series in last season’s Stanley Cup playoffs. From the side, his belly seeming to hang low in front of him, he looked like Humpty Dumpty.
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An NHL goalie’s torso might be his best blocking part, but no matter how big his upper body pads are, they can’t extend the full six feet from post to post. Bigger arm pads and gloves and football-size shoulder pads help, as does the stick, but particularly tricky is the space from a goalie’s ears to each top corner. His mask can’t be made to extend that far unobtrusively. Naturally then, this is where the scorers began to shoot. So goalies had to develop a counteraction – one hinted at in Vasilevsky’s profile. Why did his torso pad reach so far forward and hang beneath his belly? Why was it so loose? Think of a balloon. When it’s suddenly constrained from moving in one direction, it expands in another. As Vasilevskiy’s body went down in butterfly position, the bottom of his torso pad hit up against his pants, forcing it forward to offer a pillowy cushion to suck up any rebound from a puck hitting his chest, but also ballooning it upward and outward … toward the top corners. Two wicked problems solved with one natural-, unremarkable-looking, nearly invisible adaptation to his equipment.
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/02/hockey-goalies-are-too-big-now/618021/
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Terrible photoshop job. Look at their hands.
He's taking hand steroids too.
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I read an article about this last spring. (https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/02/hockey-goalies-are-too-big-now/618021/) The author is Ken Dryden, who knows a bit about the goalie position. While Vasilyevsky is not the only one using absurdly large equipment, he was the example talked about in the article (probably because he won the Stanley Cup last season too.) The article explained that while the focus of goalie equipment rule changes has usually been on the leg pads, the growing issue has been with the chest protector. Vasilievsky wears a huge chest protector that is loosely strapped to his body, and when he drops to his knees (which is almost always) the chest protector hits his thighs and gets pushed upwards, covering more space above his shoulders. The article argues that he could play the whole game on his knees and suggests the only reason he needs to stand up is that people would notice if he played the whole game on his knees.
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/02/hockey-goalies-are-too-big-now/618021/
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Exactly, I read that too. I agree its the chest pad mostly, maybe the shoulders too, I noticed it when he was walking (skating) around the ice right after they won the Cup this year, not based on that other pic. He looked like the Stay-Puffed Marshmallow Man. He's still a great goalie but they need to do something about all these pads on everyone.
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So it’s part of the injury rules on how injured players are counted towards the cap…. Same for any team. I don’t see the issue.
you don't see cause the dumbTaggin' cloud that follows you obscures how cap limits are manipulated by those teams that choose to cheat. The TBL weren't in a playoff race... didn't need Kucherov back in the lineup, so he remained on LTIR for the entire season only to be activated just in time for the playoffs. By activating him just before the deadline, Tampa Bay was able to acquire key players as Kucherov’s $9.5 million salary was not added to the cap this season.
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Terrible photoshop job. Look at their hands.
notwithstanding member squiggy taggin' your post as the, 'winner, winner - chicken dinner'... no, not shopped. That is an official TSN photo; on the right, a different angle for comparison:
(https://i.imgur.com/CusxQ8Y.jpg)
Vasilevskiy's 'MichelinMan' look reflects upon how he chooses to wear his chest-protector... outside, not tucked... which allows the protector to rise up covering more of the net opening. It is also speculated he wears an additional padded "under garment" to allow the protector to rise up more easily.
The NHL regulates the size of equipment. Stop believing the stupid conspiracy theories.
yabut lil' buddy: the coaches challenge has been done away with in regards goalie equipment, and the refs no longer measure any of that equipment. Instead the NHL went to spot checks with a dedicated guy assigned to 'drop in' and measure equipment at any time during the season. None of which has anything to do with an absence of regulation controlling how that equipment must be worn by respective goalies.
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you don't see cause the dumbTaggin' cloud that follows you obscures how cap limits are manipulated by those teams that choose to cheat. The TBL weren't in a playoff race... didn't need Kucherov back in the lineup, so he remained on LTIR for the entire season only to be activated just in time for the playoffs. By activating him just before the deadline, Tampa Bay was able to acquire key players as Kucherov’s $9.5 million salary was not added to the cap this season.
More conspiracies Walduh…. Where’s the evidence? Not your uncaring, uninformed opinion.
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More conspiracies Walduh…. Where’s the evidence? Not your uncaring, uninformed opinion.
hey shyteForBrains, no conspiracy... the evidentiary facts were just stated! Let the waldo ridicule you further: the NHL's max salary cap allowed for the season was $81.5 mil; the Tampa Bay Lightning exceeded that with a cap hit of ~$98.8 mil (including ~$17.3 mil in salary on LTIR). As I stated, Kucherov's $9.5 million salary was a part of that LTIR amount. In actuality, TBL had 2 other players on LTIR to account for that additional $7.8 mil of the LTIR amount... difference was that in spite of missing the entire season, Kucherov healed so coincidentally to allow him to be activated just in time for the playoffs. And, of course, the cap doesn't apply in the playoffs. And again, as I stated, by TBL not including Kucherov's salary as a part of the allowed salary cap, they were able to sign other players, most notably defenseman Savard.
now runaway lil' dumbTagger, runaway, runaway!
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hey shyteForBrains, no conspiracy... the evidentiary facts were just stated! Let the waldo ridicule you further: the NHL's max salary cap allowed for the season was $81.5 mil; the Tampa Bay Lightning exceeded that with a cap hit of ~$98.8 mil (including ~$17.3 mil in salary on LTIR). As I stated, Kucherov's $9.5 million salary was a part of that LTIR amount. In actuality, TBL had 2 other players on LTIR to account for that additional $7.8 mil of the LTIR amount... difference was that in spite of missing the entire season, Kucherov healed so coincidentally to allow him to be activated just in time for the playoffs. And, of course, the cap doesn't apply in the playoffs. And again, as I stated, by TBL not including Kucherov's salary as a part of the allowed salary cap, they were able to sign other players, most notably defenseman Savard.
now runaway lil' dumbTagger, runaway, runaway!
So…. You have speculation and conspiracies…. No evidence that Kucherov wasn’t actually injured. Plus, this rule is the same for every team.
Geezazz Walduh…. I asked for evidence, not your speculative fiction.
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So…. You have speculation and conspiracies…. No evidence that Kucherov wasn’t actually injured. Plus, this rule is the same for every team.
Geezazz Walduh…. I asked for evidence, not your speculative fiction.
the waldo relishes you showcasing just what a putz you are! You were presented with evidentiary facts. Yes, the cap related rules are the same for all teams; however, TBL leveraged the miraculous timing of Kucherov's recovery to allow it to skirt penalties for being over the cap... and to, justInTime, activate him for the playoffs. That timing is highly coincidental to favour the TBL, both during the season and then into the playoffs once the guy was activated. Since you clearly know nothing about hockey, let the waldo acquaint you with the repercussions of exceeding the salary cap... repercussions the TBL skirted with that miraculous timed recovery of Kucherov allowing his move from LTIR to the playoff roster; specifically:
Teams found to have violated the cap face fines of up to US$5 million, cancellation of contracts, loss of draft picks, loss of points and/or forfeiture of game(s) determined to have been affected by the violation of the cap.
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the waldo relishes you showcasing just what a putz you are! You were presented with evidentiary facts. Yes, the cap related rules are the same for all teams; however, TBL leveraged the miraculous timing of Kucherov's recovery to allow it to skirt penalties for being over the cap... and to, justInTime, activate him for the playoffs. That timing is highly coincidental to favour the TBL, both during the season and then into the playoffs once the guy was activated. Since you clearly know nothing about hockey, let the waldo acquaint you with the repercussions of exceeding the salary cap... repercussions the TBL skirted with that miraculous timed recovery of Kucherov allowing his move from LTIR to the playoff roster; specifically:
Evidence of a fake injury Walduh…. I’m not asking for much.
And not in the form of a photoshopped picture like your last tidbit of conspiracy nonsense.
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Evidence of a fake injury Walduh…. I’m not asking for much.
And not in the form of a photoshopped picture like your last tidbit of conspiracy nonsense.
just how dense are you, hey! The obvious point you keep missing is the timing aspect - again, the timing that had the player on LTIR right up to the deadline activation point to allow movement from LTIR to the TBL playoff roster. And accordingly, it allowed TBL to leverage cap space to allow other players to be contracted during the regular season; then, timed miraculously, to allow the player to come off LTIR and be moved on to the playoff roster - where the cap doesn't apply during playoffs. What's so difficult for you to grasp, you simpleton!
and again, if you think that photo was shopped you best take that up with TSN - again, it's an official TSN photo.
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“The timing seems suspicious “ is conspiracy theory, not evidence.
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It helps when you can just circumvent the cap.
They were over the salary cap last year and would have lost some pieces, but Kucherov underwent surgery at the start of this year that conveniently kept him out of the lineup for the entire regular season meaning his salary didn't count to the cap. He was suddenly ready to play at the start of the playoffs when the cap no longer applies.
That Kucherov spent the whole season on Long-Term Injury Reserve but was available right at the start of the playoffs, and played like he hadn't missed a day, gives the appearance of shenanigans. It makes people wonder if it was done deliberately to evade salary cap rules. Kucherov is one of the best (and highest paid) players in the league, and having him parachute into the playoffs onto a team that was already at the salary cap limit seemed like an attempt to skirt the rules.
of course, nothing will... can... change until the next CBA negotiations - current agreement runs through the 2025-26 NHL season. Possible solutions to teams manipulating the salary cap via LTIR:
- have the salary cap continue into the post-season, OR
- a player must have played 'x' number of the final regular season games before being allowed to play into the post-season; accordingly, a team would need to address being over the salary cap, OR as stated previously, deal with the repercussions of exceeding the salary cap; specifically:
Teams found to have violated the cap face fines of up to US$5 million, cancellation of contracts, loss of draft picks, loss of points and/or forfeiture of game(s) determined to have been affected by the violation of the cap.
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Evidence of a fake injury Walduh…. I’m not asking for much.
And not in the form of a photoshopped picture like your last tidbit of conspiracy nonsense.
Have evidence the photo is photoshopped? Sounds like you're pushing a conspiracy theory.
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oh nooooos! TBL's Maroon falls and damages Stanley Cup... in a cruel twist of the knife, the NHL has sent the cup to Montreal for repairs!
(https://i.imgur.com/JcYPMPK.png)
(note to member squiggy - not photoshopped - trust in the waldo!)
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They should remove their franchise for damaging the holy grail.
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https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31807657/tampa-bay-lightning-celebrate-second-boat-parade-10-months
I'm glad they're taking care of it well:
(https://a3.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2021%2F0712%2Fr879663_600x400_3%2D2.jpg&w=1140&cquality=40&format=jpg)
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We're getting another AHL team. Apparently they are getting lots of season ticket requests.
(https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digital/theprovince/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/png0714s-abbotsford-canucks-01.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=564&type=webp)
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We're getting another AHL team. Apparently they are getting lots of season ticket requests.
Very imaginative name….
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Very imaginative name….
Ya but a popular one.
Several AHL teams are named after their parent teams. Islanders, Pittsburgh, Boston, Ottawa, Dallas.
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Canucks trade for an American and a Swede, then draft a Belarusian a Finn and three Swedes. Sure would be nice to have a few Canadians on this team.
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Canadiens being criticized by the PM himself (and more importantly a lot of their sponsors) for picking a dickhead in the draft.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/trudeau-says-canadiens-selection-logan-mailloux-shows-lack-judgment/sn-amp/
The Canadiens chose Logan Mailloux in the first round of the NHL draft on July 23. He was fined by Swedish authorities in December after admitting to two charges related to sharing, without her consent, a photo of a woman performing a sexual act.
Some Montreal Canadiens sponsors have said they’re reviewing their relationship with the team after the selection of Mailloux.
Desjardins Group, a major Canadiens sponsor, contacted the team on Monday to “obtain an explanation and to share our discomfort with this decision,” Valerie Lamarre, a spokeswoman for the credit union federation, wrote in an email.
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Should someone be written off at 18? I give the Canadiens credit for giving the guy a chance, hopefully he will take advantage of it.
Trudeau is a woke dickhead considering some of the **** he pulled when he was younger.
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Should someone be written off at 18? I give the Canadiens credit for giving the guy a chance, hopefully he will take advantage of it.
Trudeau is a woke dickhead considering some of the **** he pulled when he was younger.
Hopefully he’s worth the loss of sponsorships, corporate support and black-eye for the franchise.
The kid asked not to be drafted…. They ignored him.
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Hopefully he’s worth the loss of sponsorships, corporate support and black-eye for the franchise.
The kid asked not to be drafted…. They ignored him.
Wont be a black eye if he turns out well. I take it you think people should be written off at 18. No do overs allowed.
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Wont be a black eye if he turns out well. I take it you think people should be written off at 18. No do overs allowed.
Sure. He can have a do-over…. You can hire him…. Maybe he can date your granddaughter…. Seems like a nice kid. Just don’t let him near a camera when they’re together.
I wouldn’t be the one to hire him (or draft in this case) until he has actually done something to show he deserves a 2nd chance. And I certainly wouldn’t want him around any female relatives of mine.
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Should someone be written off at 18? I give the Canadians credit for giving the guy a chance, hopefully he will take advantage of it.
happened when Mailloux was a less than mature 17 years old; consensual sex but non-consensual photos taken... and then shared with his Swedish teammates - received a fine but was allowed to continue to play hockey in Sweden. As I read, the guy has been 'in counselling' the last 8 months or so. Notwithstanding actually being drafted, perhaps member squiggy could advise on his deemed suitable conditions and the timeframe before Mailloux could have been allowed to play again in Canada/U.S..
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Sure. He can have a do-over…. You can hire him…. Maybe he can date your granddaughter…. Seems like a nice kid. Just don’t let him near a camera when they’re together.
I wouldn’t be the one to hire him (or draft in this case) until he has actually done something to show he deserves a 2nd chance. And I certainly wouldn’t want him around any female relatives of mine.
Actually you are saying he is done.
He said he didn’t want to be drafted this year until he had done something to prove himself, he didn’t say he didn’t want to be drafted at all.
Montreal is taking a chance on him, leave him in junior another year and see what happens, meanwhile, they own him. There is more at play than just sponsors and Trudeau playing politics. More important would be how the rest of the team reacts toward him. It’s a risk but they could end up with a changed person and a good player, maybe a great player because they got him at 31 because no one else wanted to to take the chance. If not, he wouldn’t be the only 31st pick who never played a day in the NHL.
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(https://i.imgur.com/nGUx61D.png)
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Synopsis of Habs’ letter: ooops…. Sorry about that….
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Synopsis of Habs’ letter: ooops…. Sorry about that….
... "that this mistake {by Logan Mailloux} becomes an opportunity to grow and raise awareness".
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... "that this mistake {by Logan Mailloux} becomes an opportunity to grow and raise awareness".
Translated: we sure hope this dipshit doesn’t do it again while he’s a Hab, or if he does, he better score 50 goals.
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oh to feel the wrath of the ruthless and merciless hangin' judge squiggy!
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oh to feel the wrath of the ruthless and merciless hangin' judge squiggy!
Why does Walduh defend sexual miscreants so vehemently? Hmmm….
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Notwithstanding actually being drafted, perhaps member squiggy could advise on his deemed suitable conditions and the timeframe before Mailloux could have been allowed to play again in Canada/U.S..
still waiting member squiggy - still waiting!
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c'mon member squiggy - still waiting! The waldo is shocked that you refuse to state what conditions you would have put on Mailloux and the timeframe you would have accepted before you would have allowed him to begin playing hockey again in Canada/U.S.. - shocked, shocked I tells ya!
in your public square stoning... will you cast the first stone, hey?
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LOL! 2 in a row member squiggy - 2 informative tags in a row. The waldo takes great pride in having his lil' pavlovBoy so conditioned to substitute tags - informative for dumb! Such a cowardly weasel pavlovBoy!
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who's a good boy! Member squiggy's a good boy... a good pavlovBoy - a good cowardly weasel pavlovBoy!
(https://i.imgur.com/ttP73gr.jpg)
your bell is ringing - time for another informative tag pavlovBoy! Get to it; chop, chop!
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https://www.tsn.ca/ohl-suspends-montreal-first-round-pick-logan-mailloux-indefinitely-1.1688988?tsn-amp
OHL not allowing Mailloux to play in the league.