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Title: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2022, 10:32:56 am
Free energy everyone
Star Trek has arrived IRL

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/12/politics/nuclear-fusion-energy-us-scientists-climate/index.html

Tech change so massive it bootstraps social change.

Alberta's #1 industry will go from tar to yoga.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: waldo on December 12, 2022, 12:35:27 pm
Free energy everyone

Alberta's #1 industry will go from tar to yoga.

clean energy - commercial viability when? Good thing Alberta has diversified from its reliance on fossil-fuels... and that Sovereignty Act from Premier Smith & the 'Calgary FoolSchool' with its accompanying separation threat & presumptive build pipelines anywhere thingee - you betcha!
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: wilber on December 12, 2022, 01:12:37 pm
Free energy everyone
Star Trek has arrived IRL

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/12/politics/nuclear-fusion-energy-us-scientists-climate/index.html

Tech change so massive it bootstraps social change.

Alberta's #1 industry will go from tar to yoga.

Alberta won't be suffering anytime soon. This is so far from a practical system it will be decades before it can make any difference. Good to see some real progress though.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on December 12, 2022, 02:03:29 pm
Alberta won't be suffering anytime soon. This is so far from a practical system it will be decades before it can make any difference. Good to see some real progress though.

We will, just not because of this.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2022, 02:07:18 pm
clean energy - commercial viability when? Good thing Alberta has diversified from its reliance on fossil-fuels... and that Sovereignty Act from Premier Smith & the 'Calgary FoolSchool' with its accompanying separation threat & presumptive build pipelines anywhere thingee - you betcha!

Viability maybe in a generation ?

Alberta needs scientists to save its ass, it seems.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2022, 02:08:01 pm
Alberta won't be suffering anytime soon. This is so far from a practical system it will be decades before it can make any difference. Good to see some real progress though.

If we find out that the economy will be completely made over inside of 50 years should we plan for that ?
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: wilber on December 12, 2022, 02:35:22 pm
If we find out that the economy will be completely made over inside of 50 years should we plan for that ?

It will be made over but we don't know how. We sure can't plan for a concept that has no timeline and may not even be practical even if it can be done experimentally. I'm not particularly worried about Alberta, it will manage somehow but the the whole country has to plan for lost oil and gas revenues, not just Alberta.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2022, 03:48:44 pm
This is what they said about nuclear energy.  Somebody will find some reason to hate on this
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2022, 03:58:00 pm
It will be made over but we don't know how. We sure can't plan for a concept that has no timeline and may not even be practical even if it can be done experimentally. I'm not particularly worried about Alberta, it will manage somehow but the the whole country has to plan for lost oil and gas revenues, not just Alberta.

The overall benefit to the economy would be immeasurable. 
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: wilber on December 12, 2022, 04:06:41 pm
The overall benefit to the economy would be immeasurable.

Only if it can be made into a practical means of generating electricity.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on December 12, 2022, 07:09:03 pm
This is what they said about nuclear energy.  Somebody will find some reason to hate on this

You don’t know about nuclear waste?  Or the potential for disaster around a nuclear reactor?  Are you really that ignorant?
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on December 12, 2022, 07:15:22 pm
Viability maybe in a generation ?

Alberta needs scientists to save its ass, it seems.
Maybe sooner than that.  I can’t see why cities couldn’t be powered sooner than later with this technology.  Obviously power on more of a micro level would be much farther away.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on December 12, 2022, 07:18:28 pm
This is what they said about nuclear energy.  Somebody will find some reason to hate on this
Exactly.  Leftists have successfully frightened people into thinking nuclear power is that of the 1960s.  It’s much safer and completely emissions free, and could be used as a bridge.  But they’re only interested in reducing emissions their way.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on December 12, 2022, 07:20:03 pm
Viability maybe in a generation ?

Alberta needs scientists to save its ass, it seems.
You need to stop worrying about Alberta and more so of the Middle East.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2022, 08:41:34 pm
You need to stop worrying about Alberta and more so of the Middle East.

I'm one of the few who dares to say something about Alberta.  As opposed to Albertans who never shut up about Ontario and Quebec
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2022, 09:59:46 pm
You don’t know about nuclear waste?  Or the potential for disaster around a nuclear reactor?  Are you really that ignorant?

I'm pretty ignorant yeah.

What's nuclear waste?
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2022, 10:09:38 pm
I'm one of the few who dares to say something about Alberta.  As opposed to Albertans who never shut up about Ontario and Quebec

Ontarioians never crap on Alberta.

Every province deserves most of what they get crapped on for.

I'm really starting to like the atlantic provinces more and more.  Mainly blue collar normal people.  I had a newfie as a neighbour once, he was a nice guy.

BC = socialist hippy dopesmokers & drugged up anarchists
Alberta = small town folk (bigots)
Saskachewan = more small town folk (bigots) and aboriginals
Manitoba = aboriginals + JMT
Ontario = Urban yuppies
Quebec = party animals + annoying french nationalists
East of Quebec = nice blue collar folk + cybercoma
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 13, 2022, 06:02:32 am
I love all of it.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2023, 11:25:04 pm
Protect everyone from anything uncomfortable.  It will make them stronger and more resilient:

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/zwaagstra-dont-scrap-final-exams-some-stress-is-good-for-students?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Z1gh4GePrNj9QUuVp1eN3VwZycyWjwglJHDoL0tSsPC7-VvZY8qij42s#Echobox=1675978832
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 11, 2023, 05:11:00 am
Social trends are difficult to understand.

Did you know that Americans who work with us see us as passive aggressive?  I can totally see why
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on February 13, 2023, 04:47:37 pm
Protect everyone from anything uncomfortable.  It will make them stronger and more resilient:

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/zwaagstra-dont-scrap-final-exams-some-stress-is-good-for-students?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Z1gh4GePrNj9QUuVp1eN3VwZycyWjwglJHDoL0tSsPC7-VvZY8qij42s#Echobox=1675978832

I'd love to see some actual evidence that final exams actually contribute to learning versus other methods of assessment. Because "building character" is a pretty dumb reason to have them if you can achieve the same results with other methods.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 01:35:24 am
I'd love to see some actual evidence that final exams actually contribute to learning versus other methods of assessment. Because "building character" is a pretty dumb reason to have them if you can achieve the same results with other methods.

I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: guest18 on February 14, 2023, 04:52:38 am
Miss Linda retired a long time ago.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2023, 09:57:09 am
I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.

I noticed you shifted the goalposts from "stress" to mere "discomfort." This type of strawman is quickly becoming your stock-in-trade.

"We know that stress is very bad for people's mental and physical health, but what this article presupposes is... maybe it's not?"
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on February 14, 2023, 10:32:31 am
I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2023, 10:38:25 am
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.

"We have lots of data!" *fails to include data*

Classic Shitbag.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 05:08:06 pm
Miss Linda retired a long time ago.

Ms Linda just told students they didn't have to do exams and they can go home and relax for exam week.  Poor babies.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 05:22:06 pm
I noticed you shifted the goalposts from "stress" to mere "discomfort." This type of strawman is quickly becoming your stock-in-trade.

"We know that stress is very bad for people's mental and physical health, but what this article presupposes is... maybe it's not?"

Weird Queefer conspiracy theories and red herrings aside, are you saying that students will never have to deal with stress when they are adults without teachers and parents able to shield them from it all?

You do realize that if you're never exposed to stress....or discomfort... you'll never be able to develop the tools to be able to properly deal with it when it inevitably occurs.   Exposure to stressful situations is not what causes mental illness, it's our ability and capacity to deal with it.

When these kids go into a job interview or need to meet a tight work deadline nobody will be there to shelter them from it.  Give students exams, and teach them how to properly deal with the pressure.  Cognitive therapy is all about exposure and learning to deal with stress and fear.

This policy is just more toxic compassion from an overly maternalized education system.  Its no wonder males do worse in school and graduate from post-secondary at lower rates.  Participation trophies for everyone!
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2023, 05:31:28 pm
Weird Queefer conspiracy theories and red herrings aside, are you saying that students will never have to deal with stress when they are adults without teachers and parents able to shield them from it all?

No.

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You do realize that if you're never exposed to stress....or discomfort... you'll never be able to develop the tools to be able to properly deal with it when it inevitably occurs. Exposure to stressful situations is not what causes mental illness, it's our ability and capacity to deal with it.

There's a grain of truth to that, but I also think that kids are exposed to plenty of stress and that adding additional stressors on purpose to try and toughen them up is kinda psychotic. You can teach kids to deal with and manage stress without just like putting them in a stressful situation without any preparation.

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When these kids go into a job interview or need to meet a tight work deadline nobody will be there to shelter them from it.  Give kids exams, and teach them how to deal with the pressure.

Putting someone in a stressful situation without giving them the tools to manage the stress isn't helpful.

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This policy is just more toxic compassion from an overly maternalized education system. Its no wonder males do worse in school and graduate from post-secondary at lower rates.  Participation trophies for everyone!

Yeah yeah yeah let me guess you had tons of tressful situations and turned out fine.

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Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 05:35:37 pm
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.

No psychologist would recommend sheltering teenagers from all their stresses and fears.  They would tell them to gradually increase their exposure and give them guidance on how to deal with it.  It's no different than building a callus.  You don't tell someone not to walk very far because their feet hurt after walking a mile.

They think they're helping students, but they're actually setting them up for problems in the future and limiting their resilience.  Clearly 1 year of teachers college wasn't enough to train educators properly on child psychology.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 05:42:05 pm
No.

There's a grain of truth to that, but I also think that kids are exposed to plenty of stress and that adding additional stressors on purpose to try and toughen them up is kinda psychotic. You can teach kids to deal with and manage stress without just like putting them in a stressful situation without any preparation.

Putting someone in a stressful situation without giving them the tools to manage the stress isn't helpful.
Like I said, teach them the tools instead of sheltering them from the source.  Participation trophy ideology doesn't help much, unless you're just too young, to ill prepared, or legit ill to deal.

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Yeah yeah yeah let me guess you had tons of tressful situations and turned out fine.

I have no idea what this means.
Title: Re: Utopia Culture
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2023, 09:28:39 am
Like I said, teach them the tools instead of sheltering them from the source.

That's not what the guy who wrote the article you posted said but here it seems we're on the same page.

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Participation trophy ideology doesn't help much, unless you're just too young, to ill prepared, or legit ill to deal.

Participation trophies is such a funny trope to me since it wasn't kids who asked for them.

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I have no idea what this means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias