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Title: The Queen
Post by: queenmandy85 on September 08, 2022, 01:10:21 pm
The Queen is dead. God save the King.
Queen Elizabeth was the second longest reigning Queen of Canada. I am old enough to remember the day the old King, George VI died and watching the film of the Coronation of the Queen.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 08, 2022, 01:34:34 pm
The Queen is dead. God save the King.
Queen Elizabeth was the second longest reigning Queen of Canada. I am old enough to remember the day the old King, George IV died and watching the film of the Coronation of the Queen.

Fun fact: George V's doctor euthanized him with a shot of morphine and co-caine so his death would make it into The Times instead of the evening papers.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 08, 2022, 10:54:17 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 09, 2022, 09:54:32 am
The Queen is dead. God save the King.
Queen Elizabeth was the second longest reigning Queen of Canada. I am old enough to remember the day the old King, George IV died and watching the film of the Coronation of the Queen.

She was the longest serving Monarch in British history. Six years longer than Victoria.

I think you mixed up your I's and V's. King George IV died in 1830.

I was 5 when she became Queen but can't say I remember much about her father.

I do remember watching the Coronation. It was a big deal at the time because the film was flown to Canada on a RAF Canberra jet bomber and we got to see it several hours after the actual event. It was the first overseas event televised in North America on the same day.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 09, 2022, 10:23:25 am
Do they bury the corgis with her?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 09, 2022, 10:32:43 am
Do they bury the corgis with her?

They’re the King’s problem now. 

I’m sure they’re great fox hunters…. Or  they can fetch the polo ball from the net after a goal. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 09, 2022, 10:44:03 am
Fox hunting was banned in 2005.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 09, 2022, 10:46:47 am
Fox hunting was banned in 2005.

Can corgies retrieve pheasants then?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 09, 2022, 10:48:37 am
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/whats-wrong-with-britain-lets-start-with-the-monarchy/

The Royal family volunteered to pay taxes to Britain on their private enterprises and then hid their assets in tax shelters. LOL

They love money more than they love Britain.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 09, 2022, 10:57:33 am
Fox hunting was banned in 2005.

Seems Prince Charles, now King, was in quite a tizzy over banning fox hunting.  Compared it to persecution of minorities and said he would leave Britain over it.  Even went so far as writing the PM, which the Monarchy isn’t supposed to do…. get involved in politics and legislating the country. 

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/prince-ill-leave-britain-over-fox-hunt-ban-2471612
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 09, 2022, 11:31:34 am
guys, guys... this is the 'loyalist' thread; one showing respect and consideration to the crown/monarchy... the other thread is the one for all you d-bags to shyte on the queen and celebrate her death!

carry on!
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 09, 2022, 11:40:14 am
Fun fact:

according to section 41 of the Constitution Act, unanimous agreement among the Senate, House of Commons and the legislative assembly of each province is required to remove the British Crown as the head of state.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 09, 2022, 11:55:05 am
Governor General of Canada: the Role, the Myth, the Legend (https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca/2017/09/governor-general-of-canada-the-role-the-myth-the-legend/?print=print)

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The Governor General of Canada is the representative of Canada's head of state – the Queen.[1] The Constitution Act, 1867 expressly states that the executive branch of Canada’s government is assigned to the Queen and that the Governor General will “[carry] on the Government of Canada on behalf and in the name of the Queen.”[2] Further, the Letters Patent, 1947 – issued by King George VI (the predecessor of Queen Elizabeth II) in 1947 – delegates the monarch's powers in Canada to the Governor General.[3]

The powers of the Governor General

The Constitution Act, 1867 grants extensive powers to the Governor General. These powers include the power to appoint senators and superior court judges, as well as the ability to grant and withhold royal assent to bills (royal assent allows a proposed law to become an actual law).[4] In reality, however, the Governor General’s role in exercising these powers is largely symbolic.[5]

The Governor General’s exercise of powers is mainly symbolic because Canada’s Constitution is comprised of both written and unwritten rules, and the role of the Governor General is governed almost entirely by the unwritten rules of the Constitution. [6] More specifically, constitutional conventions help guide the Governor General’s role – these are “informal rules that bind political actors to behave in a certain way and which are not normally enforceable in the courts.”[7]

For example, while section 55 of the Constitution Act, 1867 gives the Governor General the power to withhold royal assent from a proposed law (which would stop the law from being created), this power has never been exercised.[8] This power is not exercised because withholding royal assent would violate constitutional convention.[9]

The Governor General and “responsible government”

The Governor General has the constitutional responsibility to ensure that the conventions of responsible government are respected.[10] “Responsible government” is a principle that guarantees that the executive branch of government is accountable to the elected representatives in the House of Commons.[11]

The conventions of responsible government require the Governor General to act in accordance with the advice of the prime minister who has the support of the majority of representatives in the House.[12] In practice, this means that the Governor General will almost always act on the prime minister's advice when appointing ministers and proroguing (or suspending) and dissolving Parliament.

The Governor General’s “reserve” powers

While the role of the Governor General is significantly restricted by conventions, it is not entirely symbolic.[13] On rare occasions, a Governor General can exercise personal discretion, meaning that he or she can act independently of prime ministerial advice. This ability to exercise personal discretion revolves around the Governor General's “reserve powers.”[14] Two established reserve powers are the Governor General's authority to refuse a prime minister's request to dissolve Parliament and the right to appoint and dismiss a prime minister.[15]

The Governor General’s reserve powers are necessary for ensuring that the conventions of responsible government are observed. For example, the Governor General’s power to dismiss the prime minister may be necessary in the event that a prime minister violates constitutional convention by refusing to resign after an opposition party obtains a clear majority in a general election.[16] Equally important is the Governor General’s power to appoint a prime minister, which ensures that the Crown always has a prime minister to advise exercises of the Crown’s power and to take responsibility for acts of the Crown before the House of Commons.[17]
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: BC_cheque on September 09, 2022, 10:50:07 pm
according to section 41 of the Constitution Act, unanimous agreement among the Senate, House of Commons and the legislative assembly of each province is required to remove the British Crown as the head of state.

I was reading a while ago that Canada has the crown more entrenched in our constitution than in the UK itself. They just need to pass it through parliament but our confederacy is in serious jeopardy trying to come to a unanimous agreement otherwise.

If they decide to abolish that puts us in a precarious situation.


 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 10, 2022, 12:19:21 pm
I was reading a while ago that Canada has the crown more entrenched in our constitution than in the UK itself. They just need to pass it through parliament but our confederacy is in serious jeopardy trying to come to a unanimous agreement otherwise.

If they decide to abolish that puts us in a precarious situation.

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Amendment by unanimous consent

41 An amendment to the Constitution of Canada in relation to the following matters may be made by proclamation issued by the Governor General under the Great Seal of Canada only where authorized by resolutions of the Senate and House of Commons and of the legislative assembly of each province:

(a) the office of the Queen, the Governor General and the Lieutenant Governor of a province;
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: BC_cheque on September 10, 2022, 01:29:43 pm
I meant if the UK decides to abolish before we decide to do it ourselves. What happens?

Re Squid’s tag, I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing about, I wasn’t stating an opinion but a fact. We are the most entrenched than any of the other commonwealth countries, including the UK itself. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: queenmandy85 on September 10, 2022, 03:33:30 pm
She was the longest serving Monarch in British history. Six years longer than Victoria.

I think you mixed up your I's and V's. King George IV died in 1830.

I was 5 when she became Queen but can't say I remember much about her father.

I do remember watching the Coronation. It was a big deal at the time because the film was flown to Canada on a RAF Canberra jet bomber and we got to see it several hours after the actual event. It was the first overseas event televised in North America on the same day.
Thanks for pointing out my error. I fixed it.

Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 10, 2022, 08:48:34 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 10, 2022, 09:16:59 pm
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96 years on this earth, 70 on the throne, zero actual accomplishments.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 10, 2022, 10:45:46 pm
I said to my Brit neighbour "hey the Queen is dead".  He said "Justin Trudeau is dead?".  I laughed.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 10, 2022, 10:52:52 pm
96 years on this earth, 70 on the throne, zero actual accomplishments.
Yes other than the 600 charities she supported, in which she helped raise over $2 billion dollars for.  Other than that though, no accomplishments, that you know of.  But you know very little.  It probably doesn’t stack up to your great accomplishments as a woke keyboard warrior. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 10, 2022, 11:10:17 pm
96 years on this earth, 70 on the throne, zero actual accomplishments.

Uhm excuse me but do you have any idea how many people the Queen waved to?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 10, 2022, 11:22:35 pm
Yes other than the 600 charities she supported, in which she helped raise over $2 billion dollars for.  Other than that though, no accomplishments, that you know of.  But you know very little.  It probably doesn’t stack up to your great accomplishments as a woke keyboard warrior.

So you can’t point to a single thing she actually did, just vague gestures at charities she “supported” while leeching off the public dime. So funny to see you slurp that desiccated old butthole though, you’re just a natural follower, a born peon always looking for a master.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 10, 2022, 11:23:44 pm
Uhm excuse me but do you have any idea how many people the Queen waved to?

She only raised one paedophile and was friends with dozens more, I can’t compete with that.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 10, 2022, 11:54:29 pm
So you can’t point to a single thing she actually did, just vague gestures at charities she “supported” while leeching off the public dime. So funny to see you slurp that desiccated old butthole though, you’re just a natural follower, a born peon always looking for a master.
She raised over $2 billion dollars for 600 charities.  Are you hard of hearing son?  Regardless, I’ve already admitted  that her accomplishments pale in comparison to yours as a woke keyboard warrior.  Most people’s probably pale in comparison.  I honestly don’t know where the world would be without you pounding the keys on your keyboard day in and day out.

She also served in WWII.  But you fight battles with your keyboard every day, so again, it pales in comparison to you, in Alberta sitting in front of your computer as the old man yelling at clouds.  Stupid boomer.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 12:18:14 am
She raised over $2 billion dollars for 600 charities.  Are you hard of hearing son?  Regardless, I’ve already admitted  that her accomplishments pale in comparison to yours as a woke keyboard warrior.  Most people’s probably pale in comparison.  I honestly don’t know where the world would be without you pounding the keys on your keyboard day in and day out.

She also served in WWII.  But you fight battles with your keyboard every day, so again, it pales in comparison to you, in Alberta sitting in front of your computer as the old man yelling at clouds.  Stupid boomer.

Wow the death of an old lady you never knew who could not possibly have given a **** about you has hit you hard, loser office drone living in the garbage London. You’re a pathetic little turd glomming into the slightest hint of power and authority, a bootlicker to the core. “Served in WWII” Jesus Christ take a look at yourself you pube of a person. What a total waste of life you are.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 03:04:15 am
So you can’t point to a single thing she actually did, just vague gestures at charities she “supported” while leeching off the public dime. So funny to see you slurp that desiccated old butthole though, you’re just a natural follower, a born peon always looking for a master.

given the position and associated role carries no actual 'power', that it's ceremonial... symbolic... what absent, as you say, "things" were you presuming upon?

(https://www.worldhistoryedu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Queen-Elizabeth-II-of-England-2.png)
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 10:03:26 am
given the position and associated role carries no actual 'power', that it's ceremonial... symbolic... what absent, as you say, "things" were you presuming upon?

(https://www.worldhistoryedu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Queen-Elizabeth-II-of-England-2.png)

You’re proving my point for me: revering a person who does bugger all by design is absurd. You’re literally celebrating a person for the mere fact of existing.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 10:41:56 am
to see you slurp that desiccated old butthole

proving my point

you certainly need no help!
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 11, 2022, 10:42:19 am
You’re proving my point for me: revering a person who does bugger all by design is absurd. You’re literally celebrating a person for the mere fact of existing.

She knew all the worlds leaders for the last 70 years which gave her a store of knowledge and wisdom unequalled by any world leader. As her conversations with those leaders and her own PM's were strictly confidential and the monarch is required to be apolitical, there is really no way to know what influence she had.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 11, 2022, 10:50:20 am
Wow the death of an old lady you never knew who could not possibly have given a **** about you has hit you hard, loser office drone living in the garbage London. You’re a pathetic little turd glomming into the slightest hint of power and authority, a bootlicker to the core. “Served in WWII” Jesus Christ take a look at yourself you pube of a person. What a total waste of life you are.

So bitter.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 11:03:30 am
you certainly need no help!

Sub-Shady level comeback, sad.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 11:05:02 am
So bitter.

Lol wut
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 11, 2022, 11:05:26 am
Children
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 11:12:34 am
Children

What do Prince Andrews sexual preferences have to do with it?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 11, 2022, 06:34:35 pm
You’re proving my point for me: revering a person who does bugger all by design is absurd. You’re literally celebrating a person for the mere fact of existing.

She was the head of state of the country for 70 years for Pete's sake.  That's worth celebrating in itself.  The monarchy doesn't do a ton, especially in Canada with the role given to the GG for most functions, it's largely a ceremonial role.  I'm not sure what you're looking for beyond that.  She also has come over to Canada less and less because she was old as dirt.

If Americans had a first lady who served for 70 years and she died they'd be sad and celebrate her too, but the first lady doesn't do a lot either besides ceremonial and charitable stuff.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 08:34:29 pm
She was the head of state of the country for 70 years for Pete's sake.  That's worth celebrating in itself.

Why? Seriously, I want to know.

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The monarchy doesn't do a ton, especially in Canada with the role given to the GG for most functions, it's largely a ceremonial role.  I'm not sure what you're looking for beyond that.  She also has come over to Canada less and less because she was old as dirt.


Yeah the point isn’t that I expect her or her successors to do more, it’s that the lack of tangible achievements makes the outpouring of public mourning extremely mystifying to me.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 11, 2022, 09:09:21 pm
Why? Seriously, I want to know.

She was our Queen, our head of state, for 70 years.


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Yeah the point isn’t that I expect her or her successors to do more, it’s that the lack of tangible achievements makes the outpouring of public mourning extremely mystifying to me.

I mean some people are royal gawkers, which doesn't appeal to me at all.  Like who cares about Harry and Meghan.  I didn't understand the outpouring over Diana, just another celeb to me who died.  At least the Queen has a role.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 10:47:13 am
She was our Queen, our head of state, for 70 years.

So she was old and at her (useless) job for a long time. Is that all?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 10:52:55 am
So she was old and at her (useless) job for a long time. Is that all?
Somebody needs to get an effing life.  I’ve never seen somebody so bothered by people celebrating something that they don’t like.  Why do you seem to care so much as to pound on your keyboard non-stop for several days?  Honestly, get a facking life already. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 11:11:52 am
Somebody needs to get an effing life.  I’ve never seen somebody so bothered by people celebrating something that they don’t like.  Why do you seem to care so much as to pound on your keyboard non-stop for several days?  Honestly, get a facking life already.

Weird this bothers you so much, I had you pegged as a QAnon Queen Romana Didulo sort.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 11:21:47 am
Weird this bothers you so much, I had you pegged as a QAnon Queen Romana Didulo sort.
It doesn’t bother me.  It just needed to be said by somebody at least once.  Carry on with your obsession Ahab.   SMASH those keys!  Show that keyboard who’s boss! 😂
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 11:53:49 am
It doesn’t bother me.  It just needed to be said by somebody at least once.  Carry on with your obsession Ahab.   SMASH those keys!  Show that keyboard who’s boss! 😂

Damn you really got me on that whole "posting too much" thing oh hang on a minute

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Try another one you fucken loser.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 12:02:43 pm
Damn you really got me on that whole "posting too much" thing oh hang on a minute

Try another one you fucken loser.
So you post data showing that you post more than me?  🤣
Regardless, I was referring to this topic in particular.  You have “no interest” in the Queen, but you can’t stop participating in this thread.  Like I’ve said, it’s time for you to get a life already. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 12:09:23 pm
So you post data showing that you post more than me?  🤣
Regardless, I was referring to this topic in particular.  You have “no interest” in the Queen, but you can’t stop participating in this thread.  Like I’ve said, it’s time for you to get a life already.

Yeah one more post per day, big whoop. As for this topic, I'm not interested in the Queen or the Royals but I'm very interested in how people are reacting to her kicking the bucket. Feel free to ignore this thread and go back to posting about children's genitals or throwing some more garbage boomer memes up, you clown-ass peckerhead. Or better yet, just **** off back to another forum like MLW with the other retard conspiracy mongers.

Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 12:28:24 pm
Yeah one more post per day, big whoop. As for this topic, I'm not interested in the Queen or the Royals but I'm very interested in how people are reacting to her kicking the bucket. Feel free to ignore this thread and go back to posting about children's genitals or throwing some more garbage boomer memes up, you clown-ass peckerhead. Or better yet, just **** off back to another forum like MLW with the other retard conspiracy mongers.

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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 12:38:37 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
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Title: Re: The Queen
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Title: Re: The Queen
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 03:25:37 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 03:31:24 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 03:45:36 pm
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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 12, 2022, 05:19:50 pm
I learned something interesting yesterday. Elizabeth is a direct descendent of Mary Boleyn, Ann's sister.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 12, 2022, 06:39:52 pm
I learned something interesting yesterday. Elizabeth is a direct descendent of Mary Boleyn, Ann's sister.
That’s really cool!  I’ve never heard anyone mention that before. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 09:47:20 pm
I learned something interesting yesterday. Elizabeth is a direct descendent of Mary Boleyn, Ann's sister.

Which would also possibly maker her a descendant of Henry VIII since Mary's daughter was possibly his bastard.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 12, 2022, 10:57:25 pm
King Chucky can’t even clear off his own desk.  The monarchy needs to go…. If ever there was a group of elitists who have no moral authority to govern, even in a ceremonial capacity, it’s this bunch. 

Do they let firstborn daughters inherit the throne yet, or are they still passed over if there are sons? 

The monarchy is anathema to equality and democracy, even in a ceremonial role. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: BC_cheque on September 12, 2022, 11:58:19 pm
Do they let firstborn daughters inherit the throne yet, or are they still passed over if there are sons? 

They can, but the change only happened in 2015.

Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 13, 2022, 01:46:40 am
They can, but the change only happened in 2015.

Progress, of a sort.  How does anyone who would consider themselves a feminist, or a progressive, support such a system?  Imagine if the previous queen had a twerp of a brother, 20 years her junior, who pulled wings off of flies…. He would’ve been our king for the last 70 years.  I guess it was good that it was E the 2nd….  But, now we’ve got Chucky III. 

If we’re lucky, maybe they’ll let the pervert, Prince Andrew, back into doing some princely duties….  I guess sex with underage girls isn’t enough to get you excommunicated from that family…
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 02:31:05 am
guys, guys... this is the 'loyalist' thread; one showing respect and consideration to the crown/monarchy... the other thread is the one for all you d-bags to shyte on the queen and celebrate her death!

carry on!

an azzhole is squiggy! Don't be squiggy!
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 09:38:30 am
Somebody needs to explain to the Squidiot that the monarchy has nothing to do with government, therefore has nothing to do with democracy.  They don’t make policy, they don’t make law, they don’t govern anything. 

Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 13, 2022, 09:41:52 am

If we’re lucky, maybe they’ll let the pervert, Prince Andrew, back into doing some princely duties….  I guess sex with underage girls isn’t enough to get you excommunicated from that family…

Actually it was Charles and William who were instrumental in getting Andrew removed from his princely duties and his HRH title.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 10:17:05 am
Where me "free speech!" heads at?

Man charged over heckling of Prince Andrew as he followed coffin (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-62889396)
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 13, 2022, 10:24:20 am
Yelling at mourners in a funeral procession. Classy.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 10:30:20 am
Yelling at mourners in a funeral procession. Classy.

Perhaps, but it's hardly criminal.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 10:40:41 am
Perhaps, but it's hardly criminal.
Now do pronouns.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 11:01:35 am
Now do pronouns.

Huh? You forget to take your pills this morning you old turd?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 11:13:28 am
Huh? You forget to take your pills this morning you old turd?
Never mind, it’s over your head.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 13, 2022, 11:13:58 am
The 19th is now a federal holiday…. Provinces need to get on board, or it’ll just be federally regulated workers who get to watch the funeral live.  The rest of us will have to PVR it.

Do you think the king would notice if I went fishing that day….??
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 11:15:35 am
Never mind, it’s over your head.

Of course the guy who was shitting his pants over the RCMP looking into that goon who yelled at the deputy PM is silent when someone literally gets arrested for yelling at a royal paedophile.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 13, 2022, 11:16:58 am
Yelling at mourners in a funeral procession. Classy.

True.  But when you consort with a known pedo, you might get someone who wants to use the opportunity to register their distaste. 

Perhaps not consorting with the Royal pedo would have prevented something like that. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 11:22:39 am
Of course the guy who was shitting his pants over the RCMP looking into that goon who yelled at the deputy PM is silent when someone literally gets arrested for yelling at a royal paedophile.
You're denser than a lead wall.  The man who the RCMP was "looking into" could absolutely have been arrested at the time of the incident for disturbing the peace.  Disturbing the peace is somewhat of a broad term, that law enforcement have latitude in enforcing.  Usually a person is warned several times before one is arrested for that. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 13, 2022, 11:26:35 am
Perhaps, but it's hardly criminal.

It might be in the UK.  They seem to have a few more restrictions on speech than we do.

Although, yelling at a funeral may also be an arrest-able offence in Canada too, depending upon what is said. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 12:09:01 pm
You're denser than a lead wall. The man who the RCMP was "looking into" could absolutely have been arrested at the time of the incident for disturbing the peace.  Disturbing the peace is somewhat of a broad term, that law enforcement have latitude in enforcing.  Usually a person is warned several times before one is arrested for that.

And you would have screamed and cried about that if had happened.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 13, 2022, 12:17:53 pm
Perhaps, but it's hardly criminal.
He will get his day in court and a judge will decide.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 12:23:24 pm
And you would have screamed and cried about that if had happened.
Not if he was warned.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 01:06:10 pm
Not if he was warned.

lmao you must think we're as dumb as you are if you think anyone is gonna buy that.

"TruDOPE's jackbooted thugs are persecuting this man for exercising his free speech rights! Oh, they warned him first? ok, that's fine, then."
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 13, 2022, 01:56:07 pm
OMG

We are getting a holiday to mourn the Queen Monday.

3 STAT Holidays in September ?  When have we ever had 3 holidays in one month ?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 02:01:34 pm
lmao you must think we're as dumb as you are if you think anyone is gonna buy that.

"TruDOPE's jackbooted thugs are persecuting this man for exercising his free speech rights! Oh, they warned him first? ok, that's fine, then."
Incorrect.  This man has the right to speak, but nobody is entitled to listen to him, and he's not entitled to disrupt an event.  He was probably properly warned, and continued, which then ends up being disturbing the peace.   Regardless, if you don't see the difference between federal authorities so-called "looking into" somebody, for what is essentially at best a misdemeanor, than you don't understand the implications behind that.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 02:03:16 pm
OMG

We are getting a holiday to mourn the Queen Monday.

3 STAT Holidays in September ?  When have we ever had 3 holidays in one month ?
I think that only applies to federal workers, and provinces aren't obligated to follow suit.  I'm hoping that Dougie gives us the day off.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 02:20:05 pm
Incorrect.  This man has the right to speak, but nobody is entitled to listen to him, and he's not entitled to disrupt an event.  He was probably properly warned, and continued, which then ends up being disturbing the peace.   Regardless, if you don't see the difference between federal authorities so-called "looking into" somebody, for what is essentially at best a misdemeanor, than you don't understand the implications behind that.

You know cops aren't obligated to warn anyone before they arrest them, right?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 13, 2022, 02:47:10 pm
You know cops aren't obligated to warn anyone before they arrest them, right?
I’m just telling you what generally takes place in disturbing the peace instances.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 13, 2022, 09:38:57 pm
Seems police are arresting peaceful protestors in the UK. 

https://www.thenational.wales/news/21275000.woman-arrested-protester-holds-anti-monarchy-sign-edinburgh/
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 11:00:28 pm
Seems police are arresting peaceful protestors in the UK.

the waldo is shocked you choose to ignore the hundred of thousands lining up for hours to catch a glimpse of the Queen's casket... and surprisingly zero in on a single malcontent protester. A piece of shyte is squiggy! Don't be squiggy!
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 13, 2022, 11:23:25 pm
the waldo is shocked you choose to ignore the hundred of thousands lining up for hours to catch a glimpse of the Queen's casket... and surprisingly zero in on a single malcontent protester. A piece of shyte is squiggy! Don't be squiggy!

“Buhhhh what about all the obsequious dorks who aren’t being arrested for exercising their rights bughhhhhhhh.”

Waiting around for hours to catch a glimpse of a box containing the corpse of someone you don’t know and who has given next to nothing to the world is extremely loser behaviour and there’s no two ways about it.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 11:53:19 pm
extremely loser behaviour and there’s no two ways about it.

something that so bothers you to the point you keep nattering on about it! Geezaz man, you created your own dumping thread, yet in your dramathirst you can't manage to stay out of this one.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 11:12:31 am
something that so bothers you to the point you keep nattering on about it! Geezaz man, you created your own dumping thread, yet in your dramathirst you can't manage to stay out of this one.

Yeah it does bug me. I'd hoped that we as a society have moved past worshiping inbred, unelected artifacts of a dead colonial empire.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 14, 2022, 11:29:25 am
Yeah it does bug me. I'd hoped that we as a society have moved past worshiping inbred, unelected artifacts of a dead colonial empire.

Wow the death of an old lady you I never knew who could not possibly have given a **** about you me has hit you me hard
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 11:56:57 am


Again: I do not care that she's dead.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 12:28:09 pm
Again: I do not care that she's dead.
You seem to care an awful lot.  Somebody that doesn’t care doesn’t pound their keyboard in response for several days.  Your actions say otherwise.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 02:42:07 pm
You seem to care an awful lot.  Somebody that doesn’t care doesn’t pound their keyboard in response for several days.  Your actions say otherwise.

Nah, you're just too retarded to distinguish between caring about the Queen and caring about the spectacle. Now go pound your pud over Hillary's emails of Hunter's laptop you ****.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 03:10:39 pm
Nah, you're just too retarded to distinguish between caring about the Queen and caring about the spectacle. Now go pound your pud over Hillary's emails of Hunter's laptop you ****.
Nah.  For somebody that doesn’t care, you certainly show up an awful lot in this thread.  Keep pounding those keys! 😂
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 04:14:10 pm
It’s true!  People like Black Dog mourned a felon with a rap sheet as long as my arm, who was high on fentanyl by burning cities to the ground and changing policies that spiked violent crime!  But they can’t stand people mourning the Queen. 😂

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Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 04:26:27 pm
It’s true!  People like Black Dog mourned a felon with a rap sheet as long as my arm, who was high on fentanyl by burning cities to the ground and changing policies that spiked violent crime!  But they can’t stand people mourning the Queen. 😂

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Oooh ooh this is fun!

I get mad when people are murdered in cold blood by armed agents of the state.

You get mad when people remove statues of old dead racists.

We are not the same.

(Also, like, zero cities were "burned to the ground", Sophie should really get out of whatever bog she lives in in Fuckinghamshire-on-Rye or whatever)
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 14, 2022, 05:09:44 pm
Yeah it does bug me. I'd hoped that we as a society have moved past worshiping inbred, unelected artifacts of a dead colonial empire.

Wow the death of an old lady you I never knew who could not possibly have given a **** about you me has hit you me hard

something that so bothers you to the point you keep nattering on about it! Geezaz man, you created your own dumping thread, yet in your dramathirst you can't manage to stay out of this one.

as the Queen lies in state (over the next 4 days)... government Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport has a 'live queue tracker'; the current estimated wait time is between six and eight hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NpZuGxSgZY(https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/tUvmPbjWJU9j288f2AabBsL5oaE=/1600x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Ff79abc84-0e33-45b6-ac46-2bb92e8a5c74)
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 05:20:48 pm
Oooh ooh this is fun!

I get mad when people are murdered in cold blood by armed agents of the state.

You get mad when people remove statues of old dead racists.

We are not the same.

(Also, like, zero cities were "burned to the ground", Sophie should really get out of whatever bog she lives in in Fuckinghamshire-on-Rye or whatever)
Both scenarios get me angry.  But I don’t worship a felon because of it like you do. 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 14, 2022, 05:21:10 pm
I once did some work years ago for a federal government agency (NRCAN) and had to swear a loyalty oath to the Queen.  I queried the oath giver (HR lady, I think) if I would be asked to kill anyone for Her Majesty.  I was told it was “largely ceremonial”, so I lied and swore the oath.  It was an interesting job.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 05:22:37 pm
as the Queen lies in state (over the next 4 days)... government Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport has a 'live queue tracker'; the current estimated wait time is between six and eight hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NpZuGxSgZY(https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/tUvmPbjWJU9j288f2AabBsL5oaE=/1600x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Ff79abc84-0e33-45b6-ac46-2bb92e8a5c74)
Black Dog’s gonna be pounding his keyboard extra once he finds out about the queue of people.  All the while making sure everybody knows how much he doesn’t care about it! 😂
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 14, 2022, 06:01:48 pm
I once did some work years ago for a federal government agency (NRCAN) and had to swear a loyalty oath to the Queen.  I queried the oath giver (HR lady, I think) if I would be asked to kill anyone for Her Majesty.  I was told it was “largely ceremonial”, so I lied and swore the oath.  It was an interesting job.

You don't even know what the Crown is or how your own country works because you're an idiot.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 14, 2022, 06:21:51 pm
You don't even know what the Crown is or how your own country works because you're an idiot.

WTF are you talking about?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 07:10:20 pm
You don't even know what the Crown is or how your own country works because you're an idiot.
Better known as the squidiot.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 07:53:26 pm
Both scenarios get me angry.  But I don’t worship a felon because of it like you do.

No you love cops, your tongue is covered in boot polish.

Don’t think we haven’t noticed that the only time you complain about cops is when they’re coming down in right wingers. The rest of the time you’re building elaborate fantasies where the cops have been defunded and crime increasing as a result.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 07:55:34 pm
Black Dog’s gonna be pounding his keyboard extra once he finds out about the queue of people.  All the while making sure everybody knows how much he doesn’t care about it! 😂

See retardo, this is the phenomenon that’s interesting to me. What would compel someone to spend 8 hours lined up to look at a box? Is there a PS6 in there?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 14, 2022, 08:25:10 pm
See retardo, this is the phenomenon that’s interesting to me. What would compel someone to spend 8 hours lined up to look at a box? Is there a PS6 in there?

Right, they are all retards. What a miserable life you must lead, so angry all the time.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 14, 2022, 08:53:07 pm
Right, they are all retards. What a miserable life you must lead, so angry all the time.
You nailed it.  He’s a very bitter, angry, petulant person, that not only can’t stand differing opinions/interests, but literally doesn’t think people should have them.  I’ve never really come across anyone quite like him in real life or online.  That’s why I like to hang around here.  It’s almost like getting to observe a strange creature in their natural habitat.  You poke and prod it, give it a pellet once in a while, shock it if it acts badly, and observe how it handles different stimuli.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 09:35:00 pm
Right, they are all retards. What a miserable life you must lead, so angry all the time.

Yes, it’s me the guy with a family and a job and hobbies who doesn’t have 8 hours to spare to stand in line to look at a box with a dead stranger in it that’s living a miserable life. Nailed it big guy.

It’s really telling that you and the other people acting offended here can’t even attempt to articulate the phenomenon/spectacle we’ve been witnessing here, it’s like asking a fish to explain water only it’s ideology.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 14, 2022, 09:38:19 pm
You nailed it.  He’s a very bitter, angry, petulant person, that not only can’t stand differing opinions/interests, but literally doesn’t think people should have them.  I’ve never really come across anyone quite like him in real life or online.  That’s why I like to hang around here.  It’s almost like getting to observe a strange creature in their natural habitat.  You poke and prod it, give it a pellet once in a while, shock it if it acts badly, and observe how it handles different stimuli.

This is so funny because I’m basically the only person here who gives you any of the attention you clearly desperately need. If it wasn’t for me satisfying your strange humiliation fetish, you would have probably gotten arrested for jerking off in a Olive Garden bathroom by now.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 14, 2022, 10:31:32 pm
Yes, it’s me the guy with a family and a job and hobbies who doesn’t have 8 hours to spare to stand in line to look at a box with a dead stranger in it that’s living a miserable life. Nailed it big guy.

It’s really telling that you and the other people acting offended here can’t even attempt to articulate the phenomenon/spectacle we’ve been witnessing here, it’s like asking a fish to explain water only it’s ideology.

I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 14, 2022, 10:52:35 pm
Yes, it’s me the guy with a family and a job and hobbies who doesn’t have 8 hours to spare to stand in line to look at a box with a dead stranger in it that’s living a miserable life.

You do have 14 hours a day to argue with shady though.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 12:23:56 am
I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.
Service? Name one thing she accomplished besides “existing.”

And yeah you clearly give a fig, it’s obvious you find the idea of mocking this nonsense offensive.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 12:25:03 am
You do have 14 hours a day to argue with shady though.

It takes a total of 20 minutes a day to call that retard a retard.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: BC_cheque on September 15, 2022, 12:31:27 am
I really don't give a fat fig if you like the Monarchy or not, I'm just amazed at how bitter and twisted you are and so outraged that millions of people are paying their respects to this woman and her 70 years of service to her country.

I don’t get the anger either. She has been queen since Churchill. Something like 90% of Canadians were born during her reign and have never known another monarch.

She’s like a grandmother to many, a constant. She kept her promise and was swearing in PM’s until 2 days before she died.

Ambivalence, ok but anger that others respect her seems strange.

There’s been nothing of the sort in our generation.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: BC_cheque on September 15, 2022, 12:37:42 am
I’m team shady and nipples on this thread. Next thing you know I’ll be voting Poilievre.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 15, 2022, 07:17:03 pm
Line to view Queen now 8km long. Westminster to Tower Bridge is not a short walk. I've done it. The route goes by Lambeth Bridge which is upstream of Westminster making it even longer.

How long will it be on the weekend?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Spike The Hike Shady on September 15, 2022, 07:36:25 pm
Line to view Queen now 8km long. Westminster to Tower Bridge is not a short walk. I've done it. The route goes by Lambeth Bridge which is upstream of Westminster making it even longer.

How long will it be on the weekend?
Maybe they can extend the time to see her, if possible.  Or do 24/7 if they’re not already doing that.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: wilber on September 15, 2022, 09:18:23 pm
I don’t get the anger either. She has been queen since Churchill. Something like 90% of Canadians were born during her reign and have never known another monarch.

She’s like a grandmother to many, a constant. She kept her promise and was swearing in PM’s until 2 days before she died.

Ambivalence, ok but anger that others respect her seems strange.

There’s been nothing of the sort in our generation.

How many would have her work ethic in their nineties? I know i won't, if i ever get there.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: waldo on September 20, 2022, 11:58:37 am
More than 250,000 mourners saw the Queen lying in state - per initial estimate provided by UK government Culture Secretary, Michelle Donelan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjmF59xhoG4
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: segnosaur on October 01, 2022, 03:21:49 am
Service? Name one thing she accomplished besides “existing.”
I guess it depends on how  you define 'accomplished'.

Granted, she has never ended world hunger, or cured the world of some horrible disease. But, she did provide a certain function to the UK (and to the lesser extent Canadian) government that may not have been earth shattering or spectacular, but had some usefulness nonetheless.

There is a certain value in having a non-political head-of-state, even if it is just for ceremonial purposes. For example, when she grants knighthoods (or when the Canadian gov general grants the order of Canada), it is not "the conservative/labor/liberal/etc. prime minister granting the award", but someone who is not tainted by "which party do you belong to".  (And if you don't see the value in that, just look south of the border, when President Stubby McBonespurs attended a ceremony to honor Native American WW2 vets, and proceeded to make various racial slurs and political insults.)

And while her reign wasn't 100% perfect, it was much "cleaner" (i.e. fewer scandals) than any political leader would have had in the same time period. You would hope that a king or queen would act dignified (while at the same time living life under constant scrutiny) and she managed to do that.

And lets look at a few of the other things she has done:

- She (as well as many other royals) served in the military. (In the case of Queen Liz she was a mechanic and driver, I think involving ambulance services)

- As previous royals had done (and as King Chuckles is doing) she has turned over most revenue from various royal properties (which are technically the property of the royal family) to the government (in  exchange for a yearly stipend). This is a voluntary practice, but the net result is that the government benefits from millions of dollars per year. If she wanted to be greedy, she could have just said "screw you, I'm keeping all the profits", but she didn't.

- It is estimated that her involvement in various charities has contributed to them raising over 1 billion pounds over the years.

See: https://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2012/jun/11/queen-charitable-support
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: segnosaur on October 01, 2022, 03:25:51 am
I was reading a while ago that Canada has the crown more entrenched in our constitution than in the UK itself. They just need to pass it through parliament but our confederacy is in serious jeopardy trying to come to a unanimous agreement otherwise.

If they decide to abolish that puts us in a precarious situation.
Well, technically the U.K. doesn't even have a constitution. (Well, not a written one anyways...) Their constitution is basically the results of a bunch of laws and precidents that have occurred in the past. So there is no real constitution to amend.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Super Colin Blow on October 29, 2022, 12:30:18 pm
I was going to post this earlier, but some **** around here got in the way.

Sorry to hear about your Queen. It seems the monarchy's magic, such as it was, died with her.

If the UK abolished the monarchy unilaterally, would it abolish it for all 15 remaining Commonwealth realms? Or would all 15 have to concur? A few years back they amended the succession rules, and all the realms had to concur via their own legislation and/or constitutional amendments.

That would be rather odd, for the Monarchy to be HQ'd in London where it's been disestablished, but still exists for the other 14. Unless they plan to sell all their properties in the UK and move to Ottawa, for example.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on November 15, 2022, 04:18:44 pm
https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

Not just a sympathizer, but a Nazi collaborator almost became king.  How many monarchists feel comfortable with the lack of any checks and balances with an institution like the monarchy and having them as a head of state?

Is it good enough just to hope they’re not a complete moral monster?
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 15, 2022, 04:51:44 pm
King Charles could want our government to **** 1000 babies but he has no power to do that.  In fact the monarch can't make any political statements.  The West already has had monarchs who were bastards and we took their heads off or bounced them and took all of their power from them.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on November 15, 2022, 06:33:34 pm
King Charles could want our government to **** 1000 babies but he has no power to do that.  In fact the monarch can't make any political statements.  The West already has had monarchs who were bastards and we took their heads off or bounced them and took all of their power from them.

Of course they have no power to command. 

They do have power to make a mess for us…. what if Chucky was a Putin lover? 
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: guest18 on November 15, 2022, 08:05:09 pm
What if Chucky was a Putin lover?
Nothing would happen.
Title: Re: The Queen
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on November 15, 2022, 08:25:15 pm
Nothing would happen.

That’s the problem…. If Chucky were collaborating with Russia, nothing would happen.  Canada would remain his loyal subjects.