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Title: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:09:32 am
so Poilievre (aka skippy) announces his intent to run for... PM - yes, that's right, for Prime Minister; apparently, he's skipping that pesky CPC leadership thingee!

(https://i.imgur.com/Zm3TgZV.gif)

oh my! Of late, is there anything more cringeworthy than this announcement (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1490088463894339584/vid/1280x720/TfZoJbW8poMwS5Ch.mp4?tag=14) - that oddly is released in the 'dead of a Friday night'!

but really, c'mon which skippy will be running:
- the guy needing to secure {enough} caucus endorsements to ease the CPC leadership convention path; and/or
- the guy needing to play to the far-right CPC members just to win the CPC leadership, or
- the guy needing to balance the membership want against an eventual CPC national candidate... you know, one that can actually get elected while faking a shift to the moderate centre; a move that neither Scheer or O'Toole could manage!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:29:33 am
Jean Charest - please save us from these people...

(https://i.imgur.com/RoJJ33M.gif)

notwithstanding Poilievre's self-coronation as PM, the as yet unconfirmed Charest is said to be 'contemplating' a run for the CPC leadership... speaking of, a recent open letter signed by Conservative/CPC MPs and senators calling on Jean Charest, the former premier of Quebec, to run for leadership of the Conservative party. Full text of the letter:
(https://i.imgur.com/NMB1WJ2.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:36:13 am
#pigeonPierre held the high profile assignment as the 'Finance Critic' for the CPC Opposition... in the HOC regularly going up against former Finance Minister Morneau, then moving on to Finance Minister Freeland. As Vice-Chair of the Finance Committee, Poilievre was always in the news... was regularly sought out by the media for comment on matters before the committee. Ever the snarky one, ever the one to throw barbs, to mock, to ridicule... Over time criticism of his "style" eventually caught up to him and Poilievre's time finally ran out as he lost this plum assignment... this key job/role.

even in the face of criticism from Poilievre, Prime Minister Trudeau showed his caring and expressed empathy for Poilievre losing his job in the throes of the pandemic! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1369837295629561859/pu/vid/1280x720/Gi3m6lheMUM3CakX.mp4?tag=12)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENgrHc-XkAAQn2y?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:45:17 am
on again/off again Finance Shadow Minister #PigeonPierre has made repeated attempts to lay the blame for Canada's increased inflation rate on PM Trudeau and Liberal government policies/actions... with the ever repeating collective CPC nattering/use of the phrase & tag JustinFlation! Of course this nonsense was so easily dispatched by those experts from across the political spectrum, including prominent conservative pundits and the most profiled Canadian economists who stated the current inflation increase has almost nothing to do with the federal government’s policies. Notwithstanding current inflation is a global phenomenon Poilievre would have Canadians believe PM Trudeau's reach and influence is, apparently, global in impacting upon and acting to create the same increased inflation rates found in the U.S., in Germany, in the UK, etc.!

of course the real causes of the current increased inflation reflect upon and are being driven by, in the near term, the pandemic and its impact on everything from oil and gas prices to supply chains. And, of course, one of the more prolific longer term drivers of inflation is climate change - something CPC/Poilievre wants nothing to do with in terms of acknowledging the threat and economic impacts of! More pointedly, the CPC/Poilievre are wanting to emphasize one of their key perceived reasons for increased inflation as one tied to Liberal government deficit pandemic spending in support of Canadians... certainly something that, according to #PigeonPierre, would never happen if Conservatives were 'in charge'! Who can forget this spanking Minister Freeland gave Poilievre in that very regard, where he outright stated:

Quote from: CPC Finance Shadow Minister, Pierre Poilievre
You may want to address COVID-19 with big fat government programs; we're conservatives, we don't believe in that!

Deputy Prime Minister Freeland reminds the CPC MP for Carleton, Pierre Poilievre, what he said when asked what support the government should offer to Canadians hurt by the pandemic: (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1309527370781523968/pu/vid/1272x720/7_AsH2XuTTuV4Z-Q.mp4?tag=10)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 05:31:00 am
again, over & over, CPC MP Poilievre keeps presenting himself as not just the defacto leader of the CPC, but as 'running for Prime Minister'... that, apparently, he's expecting a coronation rather than an actual CPC leadership contest... and he's quite desperate in attempting to shift the narrative away from his most overt display of support for the 'Freedum Convoy'!

(https://i.imgur.com/dZo25t0.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on February 28, 2022, 08:38:55 am
so Poilievre (aka skippy) announces his intent to run for... PM - yes, that's right, for Prime Minister; apparently, he's skipping that pesky CPC leadership thingee!

(https://i.imgur.com/Zm3TgZV.gif)

oh my! Of late, is there anything more cringeworthy than this announcement (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1490088463894339584/vid/1280x720/TfZoJbW8poMwS5Ch.mp4?tag=14) - that oddly is released in the 'dead of a Friday night'!

but really, c'mon which skippy will be running:
- the guy needing to secure {enough} caucus endorsements to ease the CPC leadership convention path; and/or
- the guy needing to play to the far-right CPC members just to win the CPC leadership, or
- the guy needing to balance the membership want against an eventual CPC national candidate... you know, one that can actually get elected while faking a shift to the moderate centre; a move that neither Scheer or O'Toole could manage!
Is there anything more cringeworthy?  Have you ever watched a Justin Trudeau press conference?  Or question period?  Or debate?  Or speech?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on February 28, 2022, 08:39:51 am
Also, good idea on the uncensored thread.  We may have to do that with other ones as well, to avoid the squidiot's ridiculous behavior.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on February 28, 2022, 10:24:21 am
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on February 28, 2022, 10:35:58 am
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...
I don't see Pollievre as a culture warrior, I see him as a bread and butter leader.  Kitchen table issues are his forte.  Inflation, housing, energy, etc.  Now it is true that Trudeau, is his efforts to remain in power, has turned some of these, like energy into cultural issues.  But they shouldn't be.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on February 28, 2022, 11:04:06 am
1. I don't see Pollievre as a culture warrior, I see him as a bread and butter leader.  Kitchen table issues are his forte.  Inflation, housing, energy, etc. 

2. Now it is true that Trudeau, is his efforts to remain in power, has turned some of these, like energy into cultural issues.  But they shouldn't be.

1. Well as a Centrist, I don't see any of that in his comms

2. Trudeau turned energy into a culture issue ?  You mean when he bought the pipeline ? 🤔
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:10:21 pm
so... no coronation after all! Skippy has announced 4 "principled & thoughtful" co-chairs for his CPC leader campaign. Once again John Baird, multi-portfolio Harper cabinet minister, surfaces - is someone sniffin' about for a Senate appointment - ya think, hey waldo?

(https://i.imgur.com/JfqAXjy.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on February 28, 2022, 04:18:35 pm
Also, good idea on the uncensored thread.  We may have to do that with other ones as well, to avoid the squidiot's ridiculous behavior.

no worries member Shady - this thread covet's your active participation - freedom of expression rules above & beyond that censoring member squiggy! 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 28, 2022, 07:58:41 pm
We are at a time when we no longer have the luxury of having this culture-warrior types in leadership roles.

Trudeau doesn't even invoke wokeness very much anymore for obvious reasons: 1) He ain't woke and 2) He has had to deal with massive emergencies on a global scale

Then these pea-shooters like Poilievre show up and want to talk like it's 2016....

We don't need them. 

I don't know what a Charest would bring to the Conservatives but it wouldn't be culture war... except possibly to appease the balcony seats...

Is Pierre a culture warrior, or just annoying?  Which is also sorta his job in grilling the gov as member of the opposition.

I don't like Pierre.  He reeks of used car salesman.  But I don't really know much about his positions.  He seems like a very prototypical conservative.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on February 28, 2022, 08:07:52 pm
Is Pierre a culture warrior, or just annoying?  Which is also sorta his job in grilling the gov as member of the opposition.

I don't like Pierre.  He reeks of used car salesman.  But I don't really know much about his positions.  He seems like a very prototypical conservative.
Exactly.  He gets under the skin of Trudeau and his supporters because he’s funny, witty and ruthless and also annoying in his questioning of the government.  His policies are mostly monetary in nature.  One of the benefits of him as conservative leader is he takes a big chunk of support from PPC, rendering Bernier as mostly irrelevant, and significantly eliminating the vote splitting.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 28, 2022, 09:26:21 pm
Exactly.  He gets under the skin of Trudeau and his supporters because he’s funny, witty and ruthless and also annoying in his questioning of the government.  His policies are mostly monetary in nature.  One of the benefits of him as conservative leader is he takes a big chunk of support from PPC, rendering Bernier as mostly irrelevant, and significantly eliminating the vote splitting.

He may get 3 out of PPC's 5% but he's gonna cost the CPC a lot of moderate votes. You guys are really bad at this.

You should've kept O'Toole but I guess he wasn't batshit crazy enough.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 01, 2022, 09:08:17 am
He talks like a culture warrior but it's hard to figure out what exactly he's about.

Optics: posting in a shiny new Canada Goose coat with smirking convoyers, strong critic of Liberals on China

Actual: never had a real job, he has a degree in economics

Not sure what to make of this, but not much to like so far...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 01, 2022, 09:23:59 am
He may get 3 out of PPC's 5% but he's gonna cost the CPC a lot of moderate votes. You guys are really bad at this.

You should've kept O'Toole but I guess he wasn't batshit crazy enough.
Complete nonsense. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 01, 2022, 09:24:42 am
He talks like a culture warrior but it's hard to figure out what exactly he's about.

Optics: posting in a shiny new Canada Goose coat with smirking convoyers, strong critic of Liberals on China

Actual: never had a real job, he has a degree in economics

Not sure what to make of this, but not much to like so far...
Trudeau talks like a cultural warrior.  Every day.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 01, 2022, 09:33:54 am
What...about...Trudeau?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 03, 2022, 02:05:48 am
CPC announces rules for leadership campaign/election... with Sept 10th announcement date, opts not to accept "front runner" Poilievre's calls for a short period before his election!

(https://i.imgur.com/DdLm59y.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 03, 2022, 08:30:03 am
CPC announces rules for leadership campaign/election... with Sept 10th announcement date, opts not to accept "front runner" Poilievre's calls for a short period before his election!

(https://i.imgur.com/DdLm59y.gif)
Kinda like Trudeau’s snap election! 😂
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 03, 2022, 09:24:56 pm
He talks like a culture warrior but it's hard to figure out what exactly he's about.

Optics: posting in a shiny new Canada Goose coat with smirking convoyers, strong critic of Liberals on China

Actual: never had a real job, he has a degree in economics

Not sure what to make of this, but not much to like so far...

Every single person who wears a Canada Goose jacket is an idiot or a d-bag.  Thems cost over $1000.  Also, geese and coyote are literally the most plentiful animals in Canada and cities want to cull them due to overpopulation, so wtf are you paying for?

Bourgie people are annoying.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on March 03, 2022, 11:47:46 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/vxzgwZj.png)

Left frame: Michelle Rempel posts a column talking about how the World Economic Forum is a magnet for conspiracy-kooks and isn't influencing Canadian lawmakers.

Right frame: Pierre Poilievre in the HoC ranting about how the World Economic Forum is influencing Canadian lawmakers.


Rempel's column about how the WEF doesn't deserve the anxiety it apparently causes conspiracy-kooks:
https://theline.substack.com/p/michelle-rempel-garner-i-went-to?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=url&s=r

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 04, 2022, 07:12:05 am
wait, what? Back to skipping the CPC leadership step... video of Poilievre back to 'running for Prime Minister'! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1499526013964800031/pu/vid/720x720/XXENrOMLCSQxHHGb.mp4?tag=12)

(https://i.imgur.com/bjo13l1.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 04, 2022, 08:12:57 am


Rempel's column about how the WEF doesn't deserve the anxiety it apparently causes conspiracy-kooks:
https://theline.substack.com/p/michelle-rempel-garner-i-went-to?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=url&s=r

 -k

Yeah, I thought I posted that here ? 

A great column and we need centre-right people like her to explain this to the kookies because they don't listen to anyone who isn't conservative party...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 04, 2022, 02:43:37 pm
Every single person who wears a Canada Goose jacket is an idiot or a d-bag.  Thems cost over $1000.  Also, geese and coyote are literally the most plentiful animals in Canada and cities want to cull them due to overpopulation, so wtf are you paying for?

Bourgie people are annoying.

They keep out the cold very well.  They’re also trendy, but before that, they were still expensive and still worked well.

I don’t own one, but I sure wish I had one when I was in Yellowknife in -50…. My west coast garb sucked. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 04, 2022, 03:42:09 pm
Yeah, I thought I posted that here ? 

A great column and we need centre-right people like her to explain this to the kookies because they don't listen to anyone who isn't conservative party...

They won't listen to the Honourable Member from Oklahoma either.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 04, 2022, 03:48:56 pm
They keep out the cold very well.  They’re also trendy, but before that, they were still expensive and still worked well.

Also manufactured in Canada. And a good quality parka can last a lifetime.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 04, 2022, 04:32:45 pm
wait, what? Back to skipping the CPC leadership step... video of Poilievre back to 'running for Prime Minister'! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1499526013964800031/pu/vid/720x720/XXENrOMLCSQxHHGb.mp4?tag=12)

(https://i.imgur.com/bjo13l1.gif)
What a concept huh?  It’s gonna be weird to have a PM that actually helps the middle class.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 06, 2022, 12:46:37 pm
oh snap! Skippy has an endorsement from, "Great Canadian statesman", weakAndy!

(https://i.imgur.com/TfLPKcO.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 06, 2022, 05:56:53 pm
Our federal leaders are all weaksauce.  I'm embarrassed for my country.

Being PM is the worst job in Canada.  Half the country hates you.  Your kids are harassed and bullied at school.  Only a mentally ill person would apply for this job, so here we are...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 09, 2022, 05:57:25 pm
Isn’t this kind of a big deal?  He had to drop out of the race because of this.

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 09, 2022, 05:59:29 pm
Our federal leaders are all weaksauce.  I'm embarrassed for my country.

Being PM is the worst job in Canada.  Half the country hates you.  Your kids are harassed and bullied at school.  Only a mentally ill person would apply for this job, so here we are...
That’s why I kind of liked Kevin O’Leary.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 09, 2022, 06:38:30 pm
Isn’t this kind of a big deal?  He had to drop out of the race because of this.

She misrepresented the facts and said she was just under 18 and it turned out, apparently, she was just over 18. You can't expect the media to conspiratorially keep it hush-hush and not report on what she said. That's not how it works
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 09, 2022, 08:28:58 pm
That’s why I kind of liked Kevin O’Leary.

He's a sleaze bag.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 11, 2022, 01:18:12 am
Press Progress/Mitchell Thompson - March 9,2022 --- re: CPC Conservative MP Dean Allison (Niagara West)

quite the record of anti-vaccine petitions:
- to ban COVID-19 vaccines for all Canadian adults of 'child-bearing age'
- calling for a ban on mRNA vaccines
- to make Ivermectin 'available to all Canadians'

(https://i.imgur.com/wp3ra62.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 11, 2022, 09:46:00 am
Press Progress/Mitchell Thompson - March 9,2022 --- re: CPC Conservative MP Dean Allison (Niagara West)

quite the record of anti-vaccine petitions:
- to ban COVID-19 vaccines for all Canadian adults of 'child-bearing age'
- calling for a ban on mRNA vaccines
- to make Ivermectin 'available to all Canadians'

(https://i.imgur.com/wp3ra62.gif)
For pregnant women.  Sounds like the right thing to do, especially after Pfizer’s recent document dump.  Err on the side of caution.  That’s not anti vaccine.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 11, 2022, 09:51:25 am
She misrepresented the facts and said she was just under 18 and it turned out, apparently, she was just over 18. You can't expect the media to conspiratorially keep it hush-hush and not report on what she said. That's not how it works

He was railroaded because he was taking the party to the centre. Something DoFo has had to do anyway.

I hope he wins leadership, but it'll be tough considering who's running the CPC nowadays.

He's good at growing the party. Currently he's the mayor of one of the Ontario 905 cities that they'll need to win a National Campaign.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 11, 2022, 10:17:25 am
For pregnant women.  Sounds like the right thing to do, especially after Pfizer’s recent document dump.  Err on the side of caution.  That’s not anti vaccine.

And all adults of child-bearing age.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 11, 2022, 10:21:04 am
And all adults of child-bearing age.
I don’t see that in the picture posted.  What does child bearing age have to do with men?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 11, 2022, 10:25:15 am
I don’t see that in the picture posted.  What does child bearing age have to do with men?


From the petition (https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-3696):

Quote
We, the undersigned, Citizens of Canada, call upon the Government of Canada to suspend the use of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnant women, children, youth, and adults of child-bearing age until the ongoing short- and long-term safety trials are fully completed and published in peer-reviewed journals.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 11, 2022, 10:29:50 am

From the petition (https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-3696):
Thanks.  The image waldo posted didn’t have that in it.  That’s still not anti vaccine.  How is wanting a medicine to go through the normal approval process complete with peer review anti-vaxx?  Answer.  It’s not.  It’s completely reasonable.  I understand that it’s a position you people disagree with, but it’s not a ridiculous request, and doesn’t fit the definition of anti-vaxx.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 11, 2022, 11:12:54 am
Thanks.  The image waldo posted didn’t have that in it.  That’s still not anti vaccine.  How is wanting a medicine to go through the normal approval process complete with peer review anti-vaxx?  Answer.  It’s not.  It’s completely reasonable.  I understand that it’s a position you people disagree with, but it’s not a ridiculous request, and doesn’t fit the definition of anti-vaxx.

Demanding a halt to a vaccine that has been peer reviewed and proven safe and effective based on spurious claims of its harms is an anti-vaxx position.

Of course this particular MPP has spread COVID disinformation in the past as well.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 14, 2022, 01:24:03 pm
and then there were 5 in the CPC leadership race!

Patrick Brown - current mayor of Brampton since 2018; former leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario; Ontario's Leader of the Official Opposition from 2015 to 2018, joins the race already populated by:
- former federal Progressive Conservative leader Jean Charest; former Quebec Premier
- Ontario CPC MP Pierre Poilievre
- Ontario CPC MP Leslyn Lewis
- Ontario Independent MPP Roman Baber

and 'out of the chute' comes the Poilievre campaign advisor Jenni Byrne with an attack ad: 'Patrick Brown will say and do anything (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1503016634566516742/pu/vid/1280x720/-BvRSYIX6fhfZjh-.mp4?tag=12)'

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 15, 2022, 12:26:51 am
(https://i.imgur.com/a5i8oCq.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Du08ZUM.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 15, 2022, 12:28:34 am
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 15, 2022, 07:53:47 am
I'm liking this.  The centrists on the attack can only help the quality of Dialogue.

I noticed that Dr. Pepper has come out with a plan to 'fast track' immigration.  I can't wait to hear the reaction.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 15, 2022, 09:36:34 am
I'm liking this.  The centrists on the attack can only help the quality of Dialogue.

I noticed that Dr. Pepper has come out with a plan to 'fast track' immigration.  I can't wait to hear the reaction.

I really hope Patrick Brown wins. And also Pray that he doesn't get railroaded by his own party again.

Dude is the mayor of one of the most multicultural cities in Canada, and an important 905 city to boot.

He has to be the most broadly electable Conservative I've seen since Harper.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 10:18:21 am
I really hope Patrick Brown wins. And also Pray that he doesn't get railroaded by his own party again.

Dude is the mayor of one of the most multicultural cities in Canada, and an important 905 city to boot.

He has to be the most broadly electable Conservative I've seen since Harper.

Harper won his majority with only 3% more of the votes than the Cons got in the last election. 

Funny, eh?  The “broadly electable” Harper received barely any more votes than that failure O’Toole. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 15, 2022, 11:00:55 am
I really hope Patrick Brown wins. And also Pray that he doesn't get railroaded by his own party again.

Dude is the mayor of one of the most multicultural cities in Canada, and an important 905 city to boot.

He has to be the most broadly electable Conservative I've seen since Harper.
Any conservative has to throw bones to the ignoramuses and so I doubt I will vote for him either.

I need a Tory the colour of my boy's butt after a spanking...

(Kidding, I doubt that that exists and I don't spank Easy)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 15, 2022, 11:05:01 am
Harper won his majority with only 3% more of the votes than the Cons got in the last election. 

Funny, eh?  The “broadly electable” Harper received barely any more votes than that failure O’Toole.

Broadly electable does mean something. Who cares if more Westerners hate JT so much and juices the parties popular vote.

Harper was able to win in Quebec and Ontario. Scheer and O'Toole were not.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 11:45:57 am
Broadly electable does mean something. Who cares if more Westerners hate JT so much and juices the parties popular vote.

Harper was able to win in Quebec and Ontario. Scheer and O'Toole were not.


You’re definition of “winning Quebec” is rather odd.  The Cons (Harper) won 5 seats in Quebec when they last got a majority government. 

You should take more of a dive into the numbers…. I love numbers….  They don’t lie.  My takeaway is that the NDP did so well that they siphoned away Liberal seats allowing the Cons (Harper) to win a majority of seats due to the vote splitting.

I don’t think you can look at that election and come away with the conclusion that it was because Harper was “broadly electable”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on March 15, 2022, 11:46:02 am
Harper won his majority with only 3% more of the votes than the Cons got in the last election. 

Funny, eh?  The “broadly electable” Harper received barely any more votes than that failure O’Toole.
Its the nature of Canadian democracy... with at least 3 viable parties in every riding and the first-past-the-post selection method, even a small change in the popular vote can cause large swings in electability.

And Harper got ~40% of the popular vote when he won a majority. O'Toole got ~34%. A difference of 6% of the popular vote.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 11:57:06 am
Its the nature of Canadian democracy... with at least 3 viable parties in every riding and the first-past-the-post selection method, even a small change in the popular vote can cause large swings in electability.

Yes, absolutely agreed.  That’s why I think looking at Harper and saying he was “broadly electable” is looking at such small differences and drawing conclusions that are not really valid, in my opinion. 

If Harper had Mulroney-like numbers, I would agree…. Broadly electable.  But he was nowhere close and his majority was mainly due to a surge in NDP popularity.


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And Harper got ~40% of the popular vote when he won a majority. O'Toole got ~34%. A difference of 6% of the popular vote.

Mea culpa.  You’re right.  6%.  Still a pretty small difference. 

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on March 15, 2022, 12:12:32 pm
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And Harper got ~40% of the popular vote when he won a majority. O'Toole got ~34%. A difference of 6% of the popular vote.
Mea culpa.  You’re right.  6%.  Still a pretty small difference.
Is it? Maybe if you look at percentage of popular vote, but you can also look at it as a percentage of the conservative vote... That 6% shift in popular vote represents an ~15% drop in conservative support.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 15, 2022, 12:27:06 pm
I get the feeling that the base will not support Peter PepperLips if he starts out as pro-immigrant.

Thank you Patrick Brown.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 15, 2022, 12:50:29 pm

You’re definition of “winning Quebec” is rather odd.  The Cons (Harper) won 5 seats in Quebec when they last got a majority government. 

You should take more of a dive into the numbers…. I love numbers….  They don’t lie.  My takeaway is that the NDP did so well that they siphoned away Liberal seats allowing the Cons (Harper) to win a majority of seats due to the vote splitting.

I don’t think you can look at that election and come away with the conclusion that it was because Harper was “broadly electable”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election

Your claim is that Harper was only marginally more popular than this losing lot. I'm claiming that Harper was more electable in the areas that mattered.

Harper did well in Suburban Toronto. This is where I live, so I may think highly of my demographic, but the "905" is the ultimately bell weather region.

This gives Brown a distinct advantage in a National election being a politician who currently represents part of this region.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 15, 2022, 12:51:53 pm
Yes, absolutely agreed.  That’s why I think looking at Harper and saying he was “broadly electable” is looking at such small differences and drawing conclusions that are not really valid, in my opinion. 

If Harper had Mulroney-like numbers, I would agree…. Broadly electable.  But he was nowhere close and his majority was mainly due to a surge in NDP popularity.


Mea culpa.  You’re right.  6%.  Still a pretty small difference.

So then I ask, Is JT broadly electable? Considering he's actually lost two popular votes in a row.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 02:00:36 pm
So then I ask, Is JT broadly electable? Considering he's actually lost two popular votes in a row.

Good point.  Broad support might mean support across the country to win seats, rather than popular vote. 

Point taken. 

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 02:47:40 pm
I will speculate and say that if Brown or Charest win the party nomination, we will see another western “reform” party offshoot due to the whacky Albertans being pissed-off.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 16, 2022, 08:37:25 am
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 16, 2022, 09:05:57 am
(https://i.imgur.com/jI6ITjB.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 16, 2022, 09:40:01 am
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He might have a point if Justin was a serious person.  But he’s not.  He’s a clown.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 16, 2022, 09:44:54 am
He might have a point if Justin was a serious person.  But he’s not.  He’s a clown.

A clown who has won three straight national elections.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 16, 2022, 09:46:37 am
A clown who has won three straight national elections.
A clown that’s lost the popular vote twice in a row. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 16, 2022, 10:08:12 am
A clown that’s lost the popular vote twice in a row.

A win is a win.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 16, 2022, 10:10:50 am
A win is a win.
Yes, he wins by losing.  It’s a great system we have.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 16, 2022, 10:17:39 am
Yes, he wins by losing.  It’s a great system we have.

It's a bad system, but oddly the Tories don't seem interested in changing it, probably because they know they would never win a majority government again.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 16, 2022, 10:48:13 am
He might have a point if Justin was a serious person.  But he’s not.  He’s a clown.

so your retort to Andrew Coyne's analysis calling for a serious Conservative leader is to... whatabout PM #3peatTrudeau?

A clown that’s lost the popular vote twice in a row.

again, yours is a loses lament! Popular vote is for loses! It's a consolation "prize"... like a participation ribbon! Again, the CPC vote numbers were minimally greater than the Liberals: in 2019 ~220K votes greater; in 2021 ~186K votes greater. Those numbers are hardly HUUUUUGE and in relation to other parties and respective provincial outcomes are principally "skewed" by one province - Alberta!

consensus seems to be that Poilievre (if he wins) will similarly carry these, uhhh... disgruntled votes from Alberta. But as Andrew Coyne writes, it will take a serious Conservative leader to convince a 'nervous' electorate that he/she has the character & judgment to win. You know, from the linked image/article that you completely ignored!

Shoot, I forgot, you people only care about the popular vote when a Republican is involved. 😂 Is Justin 1 for 3 in popular vote?

again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT!

again, popular vote means diddlySquat. That being said, as I showed with that 2021 election result graphic, you're pining over a measly ~186,000 votes! What you referred to as a significant amount! LOL!

again: #Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
(https://i.imgur.com/Qya8NPL.jpeg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 16, 2022, 11:12:50 am
(https://i.imgur.com/BiwBDbz.jpg)

Gary Mason must have read my post here before writing the article! 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 16, 2022, 11:29:45 am
so your retort to Andrew Coyne's analysis calling for a serious Conservative leader is to... whatabout PM #3peatTrudeau?

again, yours is a loses lament! Popular vote is for loses! It's a consolation "prize"... like a participation ribbon! Again, the CPC vote numbers were minimally greater than the Liberals: in 2019 ~220K votes greater; in 2021 ~186K votes greater. Those numbers are hardly HUUUUUGE and in relation to other parties and respective provincial outcomes are principally "skewed" by one province - Alberta!

consensus seems to be that Poilievre (if he wins) will similarly carry these, uhhh... disgruntled votes from Alberta. But as Andrew Coyne writes, it will take a serious Conservative leader to convince a 'nervous' electorate that he/she has the character & judgment to win. You know, from the linked image/article that you completely ignored!

again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT!

again, popular vote means diddlySquat. That being said, as I showed with that 2021 election result graphic, you're pining over a measly ~186,000 votes! What you referred to as a significant amount! LOL!

again: #Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
(https://i.imgur.com/Qya8NPL.jpeg)
I think Harper is 1 win 1 lose to Trudeau.  At least Harper won the popular vote each election he won.  Regardless, that doesn’t take away from Trudeau being a complete clown.  He is.  He’s not a serious person.  So Coynes point is moot.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on March 16, 2022, 11:40:18 am
Regardless, that doesn’t take away from Trudeau being a complete clown.  He is.  He’s not a serious person.  So Coynes point is moot.

Trudeau being a clown has literally nothing to do with Coyne's point.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on March 17, 2022, 01:31:57 am
She misrepresented the facts and said she was just under 18 and it turned out, apparently, she was just over 18. You can't expect the media to conspiratorially keep it hush-hush and not report on what she said. That's not how it works

Patrick Brown was thrown out as Ontario PC leader because the accusation that he'd sexually preyed on a high-school girl was so inflammatory that he was deemed completely radioactive to the party.

And then when the truth comes out, we find that the real story is that an unmarried 28 year old man met a 19 year old woman at a bar and they went back to his place. Deprived of the sensationalist "highschool girl" aspect, the story is such a non-story that one has to wonder why CTV was in such a rush to publish a story that they hadn't finished fact-checking. 

Here's Gerald Butts, of all people, talking about the situation last week:
(https://i.imgur.com/KQtOWHG.png)


One of the strangest things about Brown's execution at the hands of his own caucus is that it was far-right kook and Nazi-adjacent scumbag Randy Hillier acting as the axe-man:
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/the-phone-call-that-ended-patrick-browns-leadership/

Gerald Butts hit a key point in his tweets: this "clusterfuzzle" ultimately just undermines the credibility of real victims of sexual harrassment.  Ultimately, #MeToo was derailed and disgraced by people like this.  They took something that was supposed to help women, and maliciously exploited it for cynical purposes, and played a part in tearing it down. It was disgusting and it still is. The people involved in this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.


This is CNN journalist Ashleigh Banfield, talking about salacious but insubstantial accusations made against Aziz Ansari.  Just change the name "Aziz Ansari" to "Patrick Brown" and she could easily be talking about this accuser as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bAULTwAJU

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 18, 2022, 09:58:01 am
Patrick Brown would have been a great Premiere. I hope he becomes PM.

DoFo has to play from his playbook when the pandemic hit.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on March 18, 2022, 10:16:01 am
.This is CNN journalist Ashleigh Banfield, talking about salacious but insubstantial accusations made against Aziz Ansari.  Just change the name "Aziz Ansari" to "Patrick Brown" and she could easily be talking about this accuser as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4bAULTwAJU

 -k

On a somewhat unrelated note, a friend of mine in high school briefly dated Ashleigh Banfield in Grade 11 and I met her many times. I have no interesting stories about her though. She seemed pretty normal, even though she hung with punk rockers.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 19, 2022, 08:33:26 am
and then there were 5 in the CPC leadership race!

Patrick Brown - current mayor of Brampton since 2018; former leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario; Ontario's Leader of the Official Opposition from 2015 to 2018, joins the race already populated by:
- former federal Progressive Conservative leader; former Quebec Premier, Jean Charest
- Ontario CPC MP, Pierre Poilievre
- Ontario CPC MP, Leslyn Lewis
- Ontario Independent MPP, Roman Baber

joining the CPC leadership race... now making it 7 candidates:

- Saskatchewan businessman & founder of 'Canadians for Truth', Joseph Bourgault
- former MP for Parry Sound—Muskoka Ontario; former mayor of Huntsville Ontario, Scott Aitchison
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 19, 2022, 09:57:55 am
Too bad Tommy Chong said no.
Patrick Brown is the best hope for a non insane parliament.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 19, 2022, 11:15:43 pm
certainly the waldo has been very critical of CPC MP Michelle Rempel (aka the member from Oklahoma, Buffalo Gal)... but more recently Rempel seems to be working to "refine" her positioning and perceived image - most notably of late actually skewering those Conservatives with conspiracy designs against the World Economic Forum, although she never directly mentions Poilievre by name. In any case, the waldo was not anticipating this move by CPC leadership candidate Patrick Brown in announcing Rempel as his campaign's co-chair:

(https://i.imgur.com/5y9XVRu.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on March 21, 2022, 08:32:40 am
That's some good Western representation by PB. Great strategic move.

How can Westerners, in good conscience, vote for a guy name Pierre.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 21, 2022, 12:35:11 pm
and now 8 running for the CPC leadership... BC CPC MP; former BC Liberal MLA, Marc Dalton joining:

    - current mayor of Brampton; former leader of Ontario's Progressive Conservative Party, Patrick Brown
    - former federal Progressive Conservative leader; former Quebec Premier, Jean Charest
    - Ontario CPC MP, Pierre Poilievre
    - Ontario CPC MP, Leslyn Lewis
    - Ontario Independent MPP, Roman Baber
    - Saskatchewan businessman & founder of 'Canadians for Truth', Joseph Bourgault
    - former Ontario CPC MP for Parry Sound—Muskoka; former mayor of Huntsville Ontario, Scott Aitchison
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 22, 2022, 03:23:57 pm
Not the right color.
That’s what I was thinking too.  They’re not the right colour and aren’t big fans of socialism/communism.  So not Liberal voters.

guys, guys... lil' leadership campaign stop here; has Skippy found the/your right colour?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOSiB-BXwAMfSfv?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 22, 2022, 03:43:26 pm
guys, guys... lil' leadership campaign stop here; has Skippy found the/your right colour?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOSiB-BXwAMfSfv?format=jpg&name=large)
Nice dodge!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on March 23, 2022, 01:43:42 am
certainly the waldo has been very critical of CPC MP Michelle Rempel (aka the member from Oklahoma, Buffalo Gal)... but more recently Rempel seems to be working to "refine" her positioning and perceived image - most notably of late actually skewering those Conservatives with conspiracy designs against the World Economic Forum, although she never directly mentions Poilievre by name. In any case, the waldo was not anticipating this move by CPC leadership candidate Patrick Brown in announcing Rempel as his campaign's co-chair:

(https://i.imgur.com/5y9XVRu.gif)


She was never the cartoon job you've done of her.  She's one of the few in the party who've publicly challenged the Brad Trost, Derek Sloan wing of the party for their dinosaur politics. She's solidly in the "red Tory" mold, and it makes sense that she'd align against Pierre Poillievre.

Some people think that Jean Charest would be the choice of the "PC" wing of the CPC, but I just can't see it. His event in Vancouver didn't even draw as many people as my last Blonde Lives Matter teach-in, which was basically just me talking to my cat.  Charest couldn't even get any cats to come to his event. Just a empty chairs and somebody who took pictures of empty chairs.

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 29, 2022, 11:15:19 pm
She was never the cartoon job you've done of her.

it writes itself! Speaking of, here's candidate skippy at a recent rally leading the charge to, 'Defund The CBC' (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1508486682261299200/vid/720x720/D54DYTyIWyH6Gf91.mp4?tag=14) ... hitting all the notes!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 30, 2022, 12:42:11 am
it writes itself! Speaking of, here's candidate skippy at a recent rally leading the charge to, 'Defund The CBC' (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1508486682261299200/vid/720x720/D54DYTyIWyH6Gf91.mp4?tag=14) ... hitting all the notes!

The CBC should be 100% ideologically and politically neutral in content or abolished.  Just the facts, yo.  Those are the only 2 democratic options available (that I can think of).  If you disagree with me you probably have a political motive.  If you'll notice, most people who do disagree are on one side of the ideological spectrum.

I see no real reason to have a state broadcaster anyways, beyond propoganda of course.  We no longer live in a world where the only news people in the middle of nowhere can get is cbc on their TV antenna.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on March 30, 2022, 08:07:43 am
1. The CBC should be 100% ideologically and politically neutral in content or abolished. 
2.  If you'll notice, most people who do disagree are on one side of the ideological spectrum.
3. I see no real reason to have a state broadcaster anyways, beyond propoganda of course. 
4. We no longer live in a world where the only news people in the middle of nowhere can get is cbc on their TV antenna.
1. The complaints of bias are negligible at best.
2. 3. Those who want it abolished are at an extreme end of the other side.  There are lots of centrists who want to keep it, mostly because PRETTY MUCH EVERY COUNTRY HAS PUBLIC BROADCASTING.  And most countries are not culturally dominated by the world's last superpower.  Would you not expect Taiwan or Ukraine to have public broadcasting to keep the narrative towards national concerns.
4. Many shared news stories originate in MSM.  The fact that onshore propaganda is landing makes the CBC and domestic media ESSENTIAL
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 30, 2022, 08:13:49 pm
1. The complaints of bias are negligible at best.
2. 3. Those who want it abolished are at an extreme end of the other side.  There are lots of centrists who want to keep it, mostly because PRETTY MUCH EVERY COUNTRY HAS PUBLIC BROADCASTING.  And most countries are not culturally dominated by the world's last superpower.  Would you not expect Taiwan or Ukraine to have public broadcasting to keep the narrative towards national concerns.
4. Many shared news stories originate in MSM.  The fact that onshore propaganda is landing makes the CBC and domestic media ESSENTIAL

So I mistyped. I meant cbc news,  not cbc in general.   Cbc has a place in our culture.  Cbc news is more problematic if editorial bias creeps in.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on March 30, 2022, 08:26:20 pm
it writes itself! Speaking of, here's candidate skippy at a recent rally leading the charge to, 'Defund The CBC' (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1508486682261299200/vid/720x720/D54DYTyIWyH6Gf91.mp4?tag=14) ... hitting all the notes!
It’s funny listening to any Trudeau sycophant try to belittle any other politician while supporting the most vapid, empty, unserious and child-like prime minister we’ve ever had.  Does he still wear his superman socks?! 😂🤣
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 31, 2022, 12:32:24 pm
and now 8 running for the CPC leadership... BC CPC MP; former BC Liberal MLA, Marc Dalton joining:

    - current mayor of Brampton; former leader of Ontario's Progressive Conservative Party, Patrick Brown
    - former federal Progressive Conservative leader; former Quebec Premier, Jean Charest
    - Ontario CPC MP, Pierre Poilievre
    - Ontario CPC MP, Leslyn Lewis
    - Ontario Independent MPP, Roman Baber
    - Saskatchewan businessman & founder of 'Canadians for Truth', Joseph Bourgault
    - former Ontario CPC MP for Parry Sound—Muskoka; former mayor of Huntsville Ontario, Scott Aitchison

recent additions bringing the CPC leadership candidate count to 11:

   - former Ontario CPC MP for Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, Leona Alleslev
   - Ontario lawyer, Joel Etienne
   - Toronto businessman, Bobby Singh
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on March 31, 2022, 12:34:13 pm
geezaz skippy! Is Charest even campaigning?

(https://i.imgur.com/Yq0tk2v.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 05, 2022, 02:53:23 am
skippy has had a many month's long run of repeatedly casting aspersion towards the 'Bank of Canada'... while at the same time playing up crypto-currency as the alternative. This, THIS from someone presuming to lead a G7 country; one as leading, "the path to personal liberty over the tyranny of government power over Canada's national financial system". It couldn't be more laughable if it wasn't actually a front by pigeonPierre to simply bring in another faction of "the base".

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPfoEdvXIAAVZbe?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 07, 2022, 11:33:59 am
Poilevre's recent weeks 'grassroots' rallies (so-called 'Freedom Rallies') have been punctuated with the catch-phrase, "Freedom is on the Move"... meanwhile one of the key measures of global freedom was released - the 2021 Human Freedom Index, where Canada ranks 6th (of 165 countries) having moved up 3 ranking positions since the last release of the index:

(https://i.imgur.com/ksris5r.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 11:42:44 am
Poilevre's recent weeks 'grassroots' rallies (so-called 'Freedom Rallies') have been punctuated with the catch-phrase, "Freedom is on the Move"... meanwhile one of the key measures of global freedom was released - the 2021 Human Freedom Index, where Canada ranks 6th (of 165 countries) having moved up 3 ranking positions since the last release of the index:

(https://i.imgur.com/ksris5r.jpg)
Completely meaningless and subjective nonsense.  How exactly is the United States ranked 15th but Canada 6th, when the United States, for better or for worse has much more freedom?  These lists are based on the subjective criteria based on the opinions of people who compose the list. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 12:02:12 pm
Completely meaningless and subjective nonsense.  How exactly is the United States ranked 15th but Canada 6th, when the United States, for better or for worse has much more freedom? These lists are based on the subjective criteria based on the opinions of people who compose the list.

That's your opinion based on your own subjective criteria lol.

It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:19:35 pm
That's your opinion based on your own subjective criteria lol.

It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom?  Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 12:30:54 pm
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom? 
Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!

Again, that's all your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. If you want to know why Canada ranks higher than the States in the Cato/Fraser rankings you could simply seek out their report.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:35:50 pm
Again, that's all your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. If you want to know why Canada ranks higher than the States in the Cato/Fraser rankings you could simply seek out their report.
That's what I though, you have no answer, because there is none.  Canada doesn't have any more personal freedom etc than the United States.  It only has less.  Next.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 07, 2022, 12:41:07 pm
And how is Canada listed higher than the United States, when for better or worse, they have much more freedom?  Did the so-called arch conservative think tanks take into consideration Trudeau's new anti-protest, freezing bank accounts attitude?  Because nothings screams of freedom than the government freezing your bank account without a court order! LOL!  That doesn't even get into Trudeau's new internet censorship legislation.  FREEEEEEEDOOOOOMMM!

The study lists the objective criteria they use.  Why don’t you read it and let us know what criteria you think they got wrong. 

You know…. Have an informed opinion, rather than just talk out your ass. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 12:47:34 pm
The study lists the objective criteria they use.  Why don’t you read it and let us know what criteria you think they got wrong. 

You know…. Have an informed opinion, rather than just talk out your ass.
I don't see the study listed.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 01:08:15 pm
That's what I though, you have no answer, because there is none.  Canada doesn't have any more personal freedom etc than the United States.  It only has less.  Next.

Again: that is your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. in my opinion, Canadians are far more free than Americans as they are far less likely to be imprisoned, less likely to be immiserated by forces beyond their control and less likely to die violently at the hands of fellow citizens or armed and unaccountable agents of the state to name a few things.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 01:17:45 pm
Again: that is your opinion based on your own subjective criteria. in my opinion, Canadians are far more free than Americans as they are far less likely to be imprisoned, less likely to be immiserated by forces beyond their control and less likely to die violently at the hands of fellow citizens or armed and unaccountable agents of the state to name a few things.
How are they less likely to be imprisioned?  And wtf is immiserated by forces beyond their control?  Is that a reference to the defund the police policies?  Because, yes, I agree that that's probably one of the reasons why they could be listed lower.  Democrat policy has unleased a pretty bad crime wave due to idiotic policies like defund the police and bail reform.  Regardless, American's have a greater freedom of speech, second amendment freedoms, religious freedoms etc.  Much more than Canada does.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 01:50:30 pm
How are they less likely to be imprisioned?

Canadian criminal laws are far less punitive and far less carcerally centric than the U.S.

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And wtf is immiserated by forces beyond their control?  Is that a reference to the defund the police policies?

lol, Christ you are dumb.

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Because, yes, I agree that that's probably one of the reasons why they could be listed lower.  Democrat policy has unleased a pretty bad crime wave due to idiotic policies like defund the police and bail reform. 

LOL still lying about this, huh?

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Regardless, American's have a greater freedom of speech, second amendment freedoms, religious freedoms etc.  Much more than Canada does.

The only part of this is true is the second amendment thing, which is only because it doesn't exist in Canadian law and is not actually a measure of freedom.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 07, 2022, 01:58:46 pm
Canadian criminal laws are far less punitive and far less carcerally centric than the U.S.

lol, Christ you are dumb.

LOL still lying about this, huh?

The only part of this is true is the second amendment thing, which is only because it doesn't exist in Canadian law and is not actually a measure of freedom.
No they're not.  At least not anymore.  For example, most drug laws pertaining to cannabis are tickets now instead of jail time.  You're operating from an outdated mindset.  And no, American's do enjoy much more freedom of speech.  We have human rights tribunals that punish people for saying "the wrong thing."  That's a fact.  Another fact is the spike in crime, specifically linked to defund the police policies related to bail reform, letting violent criminals back on the street.  I'm sorry that fact bothers you as well.  You're living in a make believe fantasy land.  You're a domestic chickenhawk, advocating for policies who's negative impact won't affect you. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 07, 2022, 02:19:39 pm
No they're not.  At least not anymore.  For example, most drug laws pertaining to cannabis are tickets now instead of jail time.  You're operating from an outdated mindset. 

The United States has a greater share of people in prison than any other nation on the planet but that's ok because in some places just get a ticket for smoking weed. Moronic.

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And no, American's do enjoy much more freedom of speech.  We have human rights tribunals that punish people for saying "the wrong thing." That's a fact.

A hilarious simplification from a hilarious simpleton. What is the chilling effect of a human rights tribunal compared to the threat of losing your livelihood because of at-will employment laws or the kind of anti-speech laws you support?

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Another fact is the spike in crime, specifically linked to defund the police policies related to bail reform, letting violent criminals back on the street.  I'm sorry that fact bothers you as well.

I've lost count of how many times I've debunked this, but here you are spewing the same nonsense.

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You're living in a make believe fantasy land.  You're a domestic chickenhawk, advocating for policies who's negative impact won't affect you.

It's not just that you're aggressively stupid and constantly wrong, the fact you're so boring and unoriginal is what makes you so tedious.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 08, 2022, 01:21:19 am
It's also funny that you're arguing against the work of two arch conservative think tanks.

bingo! C'mon retro, if you can't trust right-wing/Conservative slanted stink-tanks, who you gonna trust, hey?

(https://i.imgur.com/gaPBk0U.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 08, 2022, 01:39:55 am
wait now Retro, let the waldo give you some help - you're welcome!

the U.S. based non-governmental organization, Freedom House, publishes a yearly report, 'Freedom in the World'... measuring the degree of civil liberties and political rights in every nation. Canada ranks 4th in the most recent 2021 report... while the U.S. ranks @52. Again, you're welcome!

(https://i.imgur.com/6EZGxRp.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 08, 2022, 06:42:52 am
wait now Retro, let the waldo give you some help - you're welcome!

the U.S. based non-governmental organization, Freedom House, publishes a yearly report, 'Freedom in the World'... measuring the degree of civil liberties and political rights in every nation. Canada ranks 4th in the most recent 2021 report... while the U.S. ranks @52. Again, you're welcome!

(https://i.imgur.com/6EZGxRp.gif)
Nobody really believes that.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on April 08, 2022, 08:39:15 am
After reading this thread, I have decided I will use The Economist's index moving forward:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country

Still - it puts Canada 12th and the US at 26th - called "flawed democracy"
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 08, 2022, 11:33:22 am
Nobody really believes that.

Retro, given your perpetual AmericanWannaBe posturing it's got to be perplexing for you to see just how flawed the U.S. shows in these analysis reviews, hey! And then member MH piles on - that's gotsToBurn!

After reading this thread, I have decided I will use The Economist's index moving forward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#By_country

Still - it puts Canada 12th and the US at 26th - called "flawed democracy"

waldo pickinNits: it's actually put out by the EIU (Economist Intelligence Unit), the research division of the Economist Group... which just happens to also publish the Economist 'newspaper'; in any case, in 2021 Canada dropped 7 positions (from its prior 2020 ranking) principally because of imposed pandemic related restrictions & lockdowns - the waldo calls bullshyte on this EIU move! In any case, here's thinking of you Retro!

(https://i.imgur.com/0R44Viw.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 08, 2022, 01:57:59 pm
Retro, given your perpetual AmericanWannaBe posturing it's got to be perplexing for you to see just how flawed the U.S. shows in these analysis reviews, hey! And then member MH piles on - that's gotsToBurn!

waldo pickinNits: it's actually put out by the EIU (Economist Intelligence Unit), the research division of the Economist Group... which just happens to also publish the Economist 'newspaper'; in any case, in 2021 Canada dropped 7 positions (from its prior 2020 ranking) principally because of imposed pandemic related restrictions & lockdowns - the waldo calls bullshyte on this EIU move! In any case, here's thinking of you Retro!

(https://i.imgur.com/0R44Viw.gif)
Not really.  These lists are made by adding things to them that aren’t actual freedoms, while discounting real ones.  It’s an Orwellian exercise in which this list essentially tries to insist that 2 + 2 = 5.
Take Canada.  Having much less freedom of speech does not give us more freedom than the United States.  Not having the right to protect yourself via something like the 2bd amendment does not give us more freedom than the United States.  Having some of the most lengthy covid restrictions in the world does not give us more freedom than the United States.  Having the government freeze your bank accounts without due process does not give us more freedom than the United States.  Paying much higher prices for goods and services does not give us more freedom than the United States.  What’s funny is that some of you idiots spent the last couple of years denouncing the United States for their freedum, and now you’re pretending that it didn’t happen and that aCTuaLlY it’s Canada that is more free!  Orwellian! 😂🤣
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 08, 2022, 02:29:05 pm
A secret board of Trudeau government advisors has terminated Rebel News’ licence renewal.  Nothing says freedom more than the government in power deciding who can be a journalist and who can’t! 😂🤣
Freedom!!!!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 08, 2022, 02:49:06 pm
A secret board of Trudeau government advisors has terminated Rebel News’ licence renewal.  Nothing says freedom more than the government in power deciding who can be a journalist and who can’t! 😂🤣
Freedom!!!!

lol I posted about this in the media thread, but I'm entirely unsurprised you're just puking out the Rebel's version of events verbatim and of course it's totally wrong.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 09, 2022, 01:22:09 am
These lists are made by adding things to them that aren’t actual freedoms, while discounting real ones.

even this one from right-wing/Conservative CATO Institute & Fraser Institute? Why would they do what you're claiming - why?

(https://i.imgur.com/gaPBk0U.gif)

or these 2 from, respectively, Freedom House & the Economist Group - why would they do what you're claiming - why?

(https://i.imgur.com/6EZGxRp.gif)   (https://i.imgur.com/0R44Viw.gif)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 09, 2022, 01:26:41 am
geezaz skippy! Is Charest even campaigning?

(https://i.imgur.com/Yq0tk2v.gif)

well looks like Charest is taking aim!

(https://i.imgur.com/XP37CPq.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 11, 2022, 12:20:10 pm
skippy has had a many month's long run of repeatedly casting aspersion towards the 'Bank of Canada'... while at the same time playing up crypto-currency as the alternative. This, THIS from someone presuming to lead a G7 country; one as leading, "the path to personal liberty over the tyranny of government power over Canada's national financial system". It couldn't be more laughable if it wasn't actually a front by pigeonPierre to simply bring in another faction of "the base".

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPfoEdvXIAAVZbe?format=jpg&name=900x900)

even in the face of significant criticism coming his way, it seems Poilievre is doubling down on his crypto advocacy... even in recent days with a staged photo-op of him paying for lunch with bitcoin.

(https://news.coincu.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Conservative-Party-Candidate-for-Prime-Minister-of-Canada-Pays-Lunch-With-Bitcoin-via-Lightning-Network.png) (https://i.imgur.com/UwviWGm.gif)  (https://i.imgur.com/VF82iOj.gif)

and Charest went after Poilievre’s position on cryptocurrency; one which includes suggesting Canada could become the “crypto capital of the world,” and condemned him for “attacking the Bank of Canada.”:

Quote from: CPC leadership candidate, Jean Charest
You {Pierre Poilievre} want to be prime minister of Canada, and you're telling Canadians that cryptocurrency is going to wipe out inflation? Does anyone credible believe that? Is there any economic person in the country who actually said that he was right? I mean, this is it's not just wrong. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on April 11, 2022, 01:57:00 pm
I was much relieved to visit some Conservative friends of ours on the weekend, to find that:

- Although they are not pleased with Trudeau's personality
- The handling of the pandemic by our governments was satisfactory in their opinion
- The Convoy was the stupidest thing ever
- They are becoming disgusting with the yahoos of their party.

These are also not centrists, but rural, gun-owning, freedom loving etc. etc.

I firmly believe we just need reasonable people to get a bit louder as every single loud wingnut that I have to moderate (Facebook) is ignorant and stupid.  For that matter, they would probably vote for Trudeau too if he just fit the jingoist cut-out.

It will indeed be amusing to see well-suited Peter Pepperlips try to play the part of cowboy with his economics degree and soft hands...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 14, 2022, 12:48:52 am
even in the face of significant criticism coming his way, it seems Poilievre is doubling down on his crypto advocacy... even in recent days with a staged photo-op of him paying for lunch with bitcoin.

(https://news.coincu.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Conservative-Party-Candidate-for-Prime-Minister-of-Canada-Pays-Lunch-With-Bitcoin-via-Lightning-Network.png) (https://i.imgur.com/UwviWGm.gif)  (https://i.imgur.com/VF82iOj.gif)

and Charest went after Poilievre’s position on cryptocurrency; one which includes suggesting Canada could become the “crypto capital of the world,” and condemned him for “attacking the Bank of Canada.”:

Quote from: CPC leadership candidate, Jean Charest
You {Pierre Poilievre} want to be prime minister of Canada, and you're telling Canadians that cryptocurrency is going to wipe out inflation? Does anyone credible believe that? Is there any economic person in the country who actually said that he was right? I mean, this is it's not just wrong. It's bizarre.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQRhgtiXIAMQ99F?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 14, 2022, 05:26:16 pm
Steven Guilbeault, Minister of the Environment, responds to skippy's disinformation:

(https://i.imgur.com/IL3rHDp.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 18, 2022, 09:47:27 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQgK-8_VcAQU8eE?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 18, 2022, 09:55:47 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQgK-8_VcAQU8eE?format=jpg&name=small)
Can’t be any worse than this dipshit.

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 18, 2022, 10:08:24 am
CPC leadership candidate Jean Charest keeps hammering away at skippy's support for the 'Trucker Freedom Convoy'... drawing attention to what 2020's Poilievre said against blockades:

(https://i.imgur.com/yCJqhBT.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 18, 2022, 10:12:08 am
CPC leadership candidate Jean Charest keeps hammering away at skippy's support for the 'Trucker Freedom Convoy'... drawing attention to what 2020's Poilievre said against blockades:

(https://i.imgur.com/yCJqhBT.jpg)
Charest dismisses fundamental rights and civil liberties for perceived political expediency.  Regardless, how much money did lockdowns cost Canadians?  Just wondering.  Oh right, hundreds of billions.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 18, 2022, 10:44:25 am
(https://i.imgur.com/x8h21dE.png)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on April 18, 2022, 11:13:34 am
(https://i.imgur.com/x8h21dE.png)
Oh look, fake outrage over the cost of a peaceful protest and civil disobedience.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 18, 2022, 12:27:50 pm
Oh look, fake outrage over the cost of a peaceful protest and civil disobedience.
Blocking the supply chain is a terrorist act. You support terrorists now.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 18, 2022, 01:01:05 pm
both CPC leadership candidates Jean Charest & Patrick Brown have stated Poilievre's support for the 'Trucker Freedom Convoy' should disqualify Poilievre from running:

(https://i.imgur.com/MD76h77.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on April 18, 2022, 02:07:11 pm
Blocking the supply chain is a terrorist act. You support terrorists now.

WHATABOUT WHATABOUT

BLM broke a window and nobody cared... etc
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 18, 2022, 03:53:00 pm
WHATABOUT WHATABOUT

BLM broke a window and nobody cared... etc

Can we agree that rioters and native blockaders, despite perhaps having reasonable grievances, should also have been arrested? 

I think that’s where most reasonable people would fall. 

Shady thinks that because his strawman libtard that he made up to argue with would be against arresting rioters and native blockaders, that he is somehow justified supporting his pet cause doing the same. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on April 18, 2022, 04:32:05 pm
Whabbaboubism
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on April 18, 2022, 05:03:21 pm
"Whataboutism is the first symptom of cognitive chronic hypocrisy." - Shady,  on the other forum, shortly before he called everyone on this forum pedophiles. The projection is getting disturbing.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 19, 2022, 02:01:44 pm
CPC leadership candidate Jean Charest keeps hammering away at skippy's support for the 'Trucker Freedom Convoy'... drawing attention to what 2020's Poilievre said against blockades:

Charest: "Poilievre supported the trucker convoy!"
Poilievre: "Poilievre supported the trucker convoy!"
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on April 19, 2022, 02:21:04 pm
Charest: "Poilievre supported the trucker convoy!"
Poilievre: "Poilievre supported the trucker convoy!"

What kind of Canada does the Conservatives want…. One where attempted secession and harassing citizens by holding a city hostage is acceptable behaviour if you agree with their politics, or one that applies the rule of law equally? 

This is what Cons are fighting over. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on April 19, 2022, 02:24:17 pm
What kind of Canada does the Conservatives want…. One where attempted secession and harassing citizens by holding a city hostage is acceptable behaviour if you agree with their politics, or one that applies the rule of law equally? 

This is what Cons are fighting over.

PP is sitting at like 43% support among Cons, seems like the fight is over before it started.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on April 19, 2022, 05:28:26 pm
PP is sitting at like 43% support among Cons, seems like the fight is over before it started.

I really hope you're wrong.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 22, 2022, 10:54:19 am
(https://i.imgur.com/waMcBF9.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 22, 2022, 06:25:23 pm
as Poilievre continues to undermine Canada's Central Bank:

(https://i.imgur.com/1LsZUaN.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on April 30, 2022, 11:03:43 am
(https://i.imgur.com/pkOzRsy.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 01, 2022, 04:49:07 pm
Why was Pierre not in favour of Freedumb when he voted against legalizing cannabis? Makes you think he's just lying to the gullible idiots because they're low-hanging fruit. Again.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 01, 2022, 05:09:54 pm
I moderate Facebook pages for community involvement and my sense is that more normies are calling out the Freedummies and bravely so.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 01, 2022, 07:25:22 pm
I moderate Facebook pages for community involvement and my sense is that more normies are calling out the Freedummies and bravely so.

IMO brave speech is when you say something where you would reasonably be expected to likely incur some kind of significant punishments for saying it, but you say it anyways.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 01, 2022, 07:42:29 pm
IMO brave speech is when you say something where you would reasonably be expected to likely incur some kind of significant punishments for saying it, but you say it anyways.

Yes
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 02, 2022, 05:24:18 pm
and now 8 running for the CPC leadership... BC CPC MP; former BC Liberal MLA, Marc Dalton joining:

    - current mayor of Brampton; former leader of Ontario's Progressive Conservative Party, Patrick Brown
    - former federal Progressive Conservative leader; former Quebec Premier, Jean Charest
    - Ontario CPC MP, Pierre Poilievre
    - Ontario CPC MP, Leslyn Lewis
    - Ontario Independent MPP, Roman Baber
    - Saskatchewan businessman & founder of 'Canadians for Truth', Joseph Bourgault
    - former Ontario CPC MP for Parry Sound—Muskoka; former mayor of Huntsville Ontario, Scott Aitchison

recent additions bringing the CPC leadership candidate count to 11:

   - former Ontario CPC MP for Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, Leona Alleslev
   - Ontario lawyer, Joel Etienne
   - Toronto businessman, Bobby Singh

official list of verified candidates... those meeting monetary and sponsoring membership signature requirements; from 11 candidate 'running' announcements down to 6 verified by the Conservative Party of Canada:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRwaVKFWQAIHC2F?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on May 02, 2022, 06:48:22 pm
We’re never getting rid of Trudeau are we?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on May 02, 2022, 09:17:22 pm
We’re never getting rid of Trudeau are we?

Every politician and party has a shelf life.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 02, 2022, 09:44:48 pm
Every politician and party has a shelf life.

If Brown or Charest manage to win, they would likely oust Trudeau.

Any of the other nutbars, and Trudeau wins.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on May 03, 2022, 12:06:10 am
If Brown or Charest manage to win, they would likely oust Trudeau.

Any of the other nutbars, and Trudeau wins.

I don’t know much about Brown but agreed on Charest. I trust your judgment on Brown too, I’ll have to learn more about him.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on May 03, 2022, 09:21:42 am
If Brown or Charest manage to win, they would likely oust Trudeau.
Any of the other nutbars, and Trudeau wins.
Maybe, maybe not.

In Canada's political system (with first-past-the-post, and urban-vs-rural voting patterns) I can certainly envision a scenario where someone like Poilievre manages to win (even if its just a minority government). It would probably require Liberal support completely collapsing in the west (certainly not unheard of... remember the days of Trudeau Sr., where at the end he had no seats west of Manitoba) and non-urban areas of Ontario going conservative.

Not that I'm saying I WANT Poilievre to win. I would certainly never vote for him (and I have regularly voted conservative in the past).

Overall, not a great collection of candidates. A group who are either covidiots (Poilievre, Baber), anti-abortion religious nutjobs (Lewis), have troubling scandals in his past (Brown), have questionable plans to address climate change (Aitchsison), or are warmed-over Liberals (Charest).  I don't expect perfection, but what happened to the idea of having a decent, principled conservative leader who wasn't a wingnut?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 03, 2022, 12:50:36 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/l4cdvnl.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 03, 2022, 04:10:15 pm
per the CPC's leadership election rules:
Quote
the Leadership Candidate Nomination Committee (LCNC), the group of party stalwarts reviewing applications from would-be candidates, can also rely on "any other information they see fit to ascertain the suitability of an applicant." The LCNC can, in turn, recommend to a 21-member group, the Leadership Election Organizing Committee (LEOC) that a particular candidate be barred from running.

the anti-abortion group, Campaign Life Coalition (CLC) had initially been quite buoyed in interpreting 4 of its 'endorsed candidates' would be accepted as candidates running for the CPC leadership. However, the CLC is now raising concerns that 3 of its preferred candidates were not verified... were not accepted by the LEOC even though 3 of the 4 had met the $300,000 buy-in fee and also obtained the required number of party member sponsoring signatures. The only CLC endorsed person receiving the verified candidate status from the LEOC/CPC is Leslyn Lewis - who coincidentally tweeted the following:
(https://i.imgur.com/32s4AcG.gif)   

Quote from: Jack Fonseca Campaign Life Coalition, Director of Political Operations
One of the pillars of the CPC, and of the broader “small-c” conservative movement, is democracy – letting the people, not the elites, decide who should represent them. Therefore, this sort of Cancel Culture has no business in the Conservative Party.

In the end, if Bourgault and Abraham are unsuccessful in their appeals, Campaign Life Coalition will do its best to ensure that Leslyn Lewis is victorious as the only green-lit, pro-lifer of the six “verified” candidates.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 05, 2022, 05:39:09 pm
Quote from: Jack Fonseca Campaign Life Coalition, Director of Political Operations
One of the pillars of the CPC, and of the broader “small-c” conservative movement, is democracy – letting the people, not the elites, decide who should represent them. Therefore, this sort of Cancel Culture has no business in the Conservative Party.

In the end, if Bourgault and Abraham are unsuccessful in their appeals, Campaign Life Coalition will do its best to ensure that Leslyn Lewis is victorious as the only green-lit, pro-lifer of the six “verified” candidates.

beyond the anticipated appeals for these 2 'SoCons' (Bourgault & Abraham), Toronto lawyer Joel Etienne also demands an appeal to his disqualification from the Conservative leadership race... a disqualification made by the CPC/LEOC even though Etienne states he raised more than the required $300K 'buy-in fee' and also secured more than the required number of sponsoring party member signatures.

Joel Etienne demands appeal to disqualification from Conservative leadership (https://globalnews.ca/news/8806624/joel-etienne-demands-appeal-to-disqualification-from-conservative-leadership/)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 05, 2022, 05:50:08 pm
first CPC leadership candidates debate: bulldog skippy takes a question on the "Freedumb Convoy" (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522335594919178240/vid/1280x720/Wyi6gwCyeoFad3oJ.mp4?tag=14)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 05, 2022, 05:52:38 pm
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522338929273360384/vid/1280x720/qoern6hlRanIaui8.mp4?tag=14)... well duh!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 05, 2022, 05:56:43 pm
debate #1: Lewis asked about her anti-abortion stance... pivots to attack skippy for staying silent on the subject! (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522343897967603712/vid/1280x720/JRNtsWJri3-89PKi.mp4?tag=14)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on May 05, 2022, 11:17:06 pm
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522338929273360384/vid/1280x720/qoern6hlRanIaui8.mp4?tag=14)... well duh!

Charest got booed for calling the protests illegal proving once again that conservatives are their own worst enemy.

He’s my preferred choice and I think he could bring it home for the CPC but like Peter McKay he’s just not nutty enough.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 06, 2022, 05:06:13 am
first CPC leadership candidates debate: bulldog skippy takes a question on the "Freedumb Convoy" (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522335594919178240/vid/1280x720/Wyi6gwCyeoFad3oJ.mp4?tag=14)

Ok, thanks for posting this.  I think that I get him now.

It's red meat for those conservatives who love the name calling and puff chest posing.

I also get what the left hates about him.

Is there anything in the way of ideas from him?

He had a good chance of being PM, what is the grand vision?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on May 06, 2022, 09:29:12 am
debate #1: Charest asked if he's a Conservative (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1522338929273360384/vid/1280x720/qoern6hlRanIaui8.mp4?tag=14)... well duh!
Well, given the fact that he was elected premier of Quebec as a Liberal, I think it is natural to question whether he is interested in supporting "conservative" ideas, or whether he is just picking a "convenient" path to power.

I do think he handled the question quite well... pointing out his economic record as Quebec premier (including tax cuts, improved provincial credit rating, etc.)

As another poster pointed out, it was a bit... disconcerting when people started booing when he pointed out that the "freedom convoy" was illegal.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 06, 2022, 09:37:07 am
Ok, thanks for posting this.  I think that I get him now.

It's red meat for those conservatives who love the name calling and puff chest posing.

I also get what the left hates about him.

Is there anything in the way of ideas from him?

He had a good chance of being PM, what is the grand vision?

It's a toned-down version of Donald Trump's "those other guys are out to f*ck you and i'm the only one who can stop them" spiel, with "those guys" being whatever out-group you want it to be (immigrants, work leftists, wealthy elites).
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 06, 2022, 10:23:28 am
It's a toned-down version of Donald Trump's "those other guys are out to f*ck you and i'm the only one who can stop them" spiel, with "those guys" being whatever out-group you want it to be (immigrants, work leftists, wealthy elites).

Well he's not as stupid as Trump but every bit as cynical.

We knew Trump was in it to make money for himself and attempt his gigantically dumb ideas.

But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

Calling Charest a liberal won't be a great action item once he is PM.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 06, 2022, 11:27:08 am
But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

just what does skippy want to achieve (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1522407219169402880/pu/vid/720x720/0k5CttaIx5LHaxgP.mp4?tag=12)... as he "runs for Prime Minister"? Why, of course, to "take back control of your life"! Of course!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 06, 2022, 11:49:21 am
Well he's not as stupid as Trump but every bit as cynical.

We knew Trump was in it to make money for himself and attempt his gigantically dumb ideas.

I'm not saying he's anything like trump, just that the message is the same. It's the populist playbook.

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But what... WHAT.... WHAT... does PP want to achieve, or ... is he even proposing ?

He wants to be PM and make his friends richer, what else is there?

(To be clear: this is not a generic "all politicians are corrupt" thing, but specific to PP. I can't imagine a weird little freak who went into politics in his 20s has any great principles or convictions beyond the attainment of power. Jee also: Kenney, Jason)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 06, 2022, 12:39:53 pm
just what does skippy want to achieve (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1522407219169402880/pu/vid/720x720/0k5CttaIx5LHaxgP.mp4?tag=12)... as he "runs for Prime Minister"? Why, of course, to "take back control of your life"! Of course!

Well that's retarded.

I am not willing to predict how well/poorly such stupidity will play.

He's campaigning against the pandemic ?  By the time of the next election will mask mandates be much more than an unpleasant piece of nostalgia ?

He's like the nerd who actually turned out to be bad at math and everything.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 06, 2022, 12:47:32 pm
1. It's the populist playbook.

2. I can't imagine a weird little freak who went into politics in his 20s has any great principles or convictions beyond the attainment of power. Jee also: Kenney, Jason)

1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'.  It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Anyway, he will go down at some point.  Hopefully in the next 6 months, not in 2 years or - ugh - 10 years
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 06, 2022, 01:11:36 pm
1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'. It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

I guess the better way to describe it is "new right populism" because populism itself ain't. abad thing. I'd consider Bernie to be a populist, for example.

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2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Woke virtue signalling from the CPC frontrunner, man you hate to see it.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 06, 2022, 02:14:15 pm
1. The new one.  The old one from the 20th century was 'Blame the Rich'.  It resulted in the society that neocons now celebrate: pro-worker, progressive, collaborative, community-focused and guided by science.  Of course they just remember something about no black people or lesbians being around.

2. Yeah, me neither.  What kind of sex does someone like him have ?  Let's see... google google... well his wife looks normal.  Wow she cited THIS on her linkedIn

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-nike-a-boys-club-culture-and-flawed-hr-1522509975

Calling a corporate company a 'boys club' culture is pretty CANCEL CULTURE.  Maybe this is a hint that they are closet liberals.

Anyway, he will go down at some point.  Hopefully in the next 6 months, not in 2 years or - ugh - 10 years

Thinking that his wife is the same as him and doesn’t have her own opinions is wrong-headed.  Maybe even a tad sexist.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on May 06, 2022, 05:12:35 pm
Well, given the fact that he was elected premier of Quebec as a Liberal, I think it is natural to question whether he is interested in supporting "conservative" ideas, or whether he is just picking a "convenient" path to power.

I do think he handled the question quite well... pointing out his economic record as Quebec premier (including tax cuts, improved provincial credit rating, etc.)

As another poster pointed out, it was a bit... disconcerting when people started booing when he pointed out that the "freedom convoy" was illegal.

Must be the convenience. I like him, I supported him when he ran for premier (I was living in Montreal at the time). If for some reason he wins the nomination I would probably vote CPC for the first time in my life.

 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 06, 2022, 07:04:57 pm
Thinking that his wife is the same as him and doesn’t have her own opinions is wrong-headed.  Maybe even a tad sexist.
I said they.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 07, 2022, 01:11:04 pm
Thinking that his wife is the same as him and doesn’t have her own opinions is wrong-headed.  Maybe even a tad sexist.

I said they. They seem to tweet and post and lock stuff with regards to their political views
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 07, 2022, 01:12:13 pm
 ;)
Must be the convenience. I like him, I supported him when he ran for premier (I was living in Montreal at the time). If for some reason he wins the nomination I would probably vote CPC for the first time in my life.
I feel like this could happen, but the CPC would have to undermine Peter Pepper
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on May 07, 2022, 02:11:38 pm
Well that's retarded.

I am not willing to predict how well/poorly such stupidity will play.

He's campaigning against the pandemic ?  By the time of the next election will mask mandates be much more than an unpleasant piece of nostalgia ?

He's like the nerd who actually turned out to be bad at math and everything.

I think that one reason Poillievre has appealed to a lot of people is that he has been hammering away at prices for 2 years.  He was talking about rising costs when Justin and friends were trying to convince us that the inflation rate was just an aberration that resulted from low gas prices early in the pandemic.

The other thing is that many people just don't feel heard. And like other self-styled populists, Poillievre has somehow conned regular people into thinking he hears them.

Our politicians (and our journalists as well) aren't exactly a group representative of Canadian society as a whole.  They're well-to-do college educated urbanites. They live in big cities. Their friends live in big cities. They and their friends are all prosperous white-collar people. They got to work remotely from spacious homes (or their recreation properties!) during the lockdowns.  They treat large areas of this country as "fly-over" territory. They don't actually know anybody who works at a factory or in trades or at a restaurant or a farm or a jobsite. They're aware that these people exist, in an academic sense, and they might even have met some of them at photo-ops and that sort of thing, but they don't really actually have any connection to anybody who isn't part of the same privileged, urbanite culture as they are. And it's very easy for people to feel disconnected from all of these politicians. It's very easy to be cynical of them, especially when they profess to be "fighting for working Canadians!" or similar slogans.   It's all very fake, very patronizing.

Poillievre is part of that same elite urbanite culture as the rest of them, but he has been talking about groceries being too expensive for two years, and that's something that us "regular people" can relate to.

I saw a Poillievre sign in the back window of a pickup last month, and the race had barely even started.  Can you recall seeing that in Canada before? I can't.   During an election, sure. But for a candidate in a leadership race? I think people might be underestimating the amount of enthusiasm there is behind Poillievre.

One of the people I follow on Twitter said a while back something along the lines of "if Poillievre wins, Liberals will finally be able to relate to how annoying 35% of Canadians find Trudeau."

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 08, 2022, 10:38:37 am
even in the face of significant criticism coming his way, it seems Poilievre is doubling down on his crypto advocacy... even in recent days with a staged photo-op of him paying for lunch with bitcoin.

(https://news.coincu.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Conservative-Party-Candidate-for-Prime-Minister-of-Canada-Pays-Lunch-With-Bitcoin-via-Lightning-Network.png) (https://i.imgur.com/UwviWGm.gif)  (https://i.imgur.com/VF82iOj.gif)

and Charest went after Poilievre’s position on cryptocurrency; one which includes suggesting Canada could become the “crypto capital of the world,” and condemned him for “attacking the Bank of Canada.”:

Quote from: CPC leadership candidate, Jean Charest
You {Pierre Poilievre} want to be prime minister of Canada, and you're telling Canadians that cryptocurrency is going to wipe out inflation? Does anyone credible believe that? Is there any economic person in the country who actually said that he was right? I mean, this is it's not just wrong. It's bizarre.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSMbGZKUcAAI7a8?format=png&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 08, 2022, 11:17:46 am
I guess people never learn.

They seem to think that people will save us not policies.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 08, 2022, 11:22:13 am
Not only that, does no one remember the arc of disappointment from the initial height to the end of their popularity? This goes for every politician
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 08, 2022, 07:59:00 pm
Charest could possibly appeal to Quebecers.  As a CPC member why would you not vote for him if you actually want to win an election?  If your wants of a leader is someone who is anti-abortion, pro-comvoy, and pro-Trump well you're going to be a appeal to the fringe and lose the election.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 08, 2022, 08:19:09 pm
Charest could possibly appeal to Quebecers.  As a CPC member why would you not vote for him if you actually want to win an election?  If your wants of a leader is someone who is anti-abortion, pro-comvoy, and pro-Trump well you're going to be a appeal to the fringe and lose the election.

I think Poilievre could win by default
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on May 08, 2022, 09:44:25 pm
Charest could possibly appeal to Quebecers.
Yes he could. The problem is, the Liberals and the Bloc Quebecois also appeals to Quebecers. The question is, would Charest's appeal to quebecers actually result in a significant gain of seats in Quebec (at least to counteract possible losses elsewhere) would it simply increase the votes but leave other parties still leading.
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As a CPC member why would you not vote for him if you actually want to win an election?
Voters don't often think rationally. (Look at all the left-leaning American voters who decided to sit out the 2016 election because they mistakenly thought "my vote doesn't matter", and ended up with 4 years of Stubby McBonespurs in charge, instead of Clinton.)

Personally, I usually lean conservative, and would probably prefer Charest to Trudeau (assuming he can keep the nut cases in the party in check), but I can certainly imagine some conservative voters thinking "Former Liberal premier vs. Liberal Prime Minister... there isn't enough difference to matter".
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on May 09, 2022, 08:05:19 am
The Liberal Party was the right-wing federalist party in Quebec in opposition to the left-wing PQ. He didn't change parties from Conservative to Liberal; he remained in the federalist fold to go fight for Canadian unity...and succeeded.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 09, 2022, 12:37:25 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/gVHIrVC.gif)

skippy says to 'give control of money to the people'... which means what? Anyone, anyone, anyone......

Former Bank of Canada governor slams Poilievre's assertion central bank is 'financially illiterate' (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/former-bank-of-canada-governor-slams-poilievre-s-assertion-central-bank-is-financially-illiterate-1.5892299)

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On another Poilievre stance -- that cryptocurrency allows people to “opt out” of inflation -- Dodge said “he has no idea what he’s talking about.”

“He’s just wrong because the issue of rising prices…that you have to cope with out of your income is fundamentally at the moment a structural one,” he said. “We have limitations on supply, in part because of a war, in part because of COVID, in part because of ongoing features of the economy – we’re all getting older – the labour force is not growing as fast.”
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 09, 2022, 12:46:37 pm


skippy says to 'give control of money to the people'... which means what? Anyone, anyone, anyone......

The best we can hope for is that this is bullshit.

The worst is that this nerd has some brilliant idea that will collapse our banking system.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on May 10, 2022, 04:28:28 pm
The Liberal Party was the right-wing federalist party in Quebec in opposition to the left-wing PQ. He didn't change parties from Conservative to Liberal; he remained in the federalist fold to go fight for Canadian unity...and succeeded.
First of all, it is true that the Liberal party in Quebec is further to the right than the PQ. But that doesn't necessarily mean it would be considered "right wing" or "conservative" when compared to the federal conservatives or conservatives in other provinces.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Liberal_Party
In the context of federal Canadian politics, it is a more centrist party when compared to Conservative and Liberal parties in other provinces, such as the British Columbia Liberal Party. It believes in a strong role for government in the economy and supports social-liberal policies

Secondly, even if the Quebec Liberal Party is "right wing", do you really think most voters in other provinces are going to understand the difference? Most people aren't that familiar with the political landscape of other provinces... they will just here "Charest was a Quebec Liberal" and base their opinions on him based on that.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 11, 2022, 11:06:31 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSMbGZKUcAAI7a8?format=png&name=900x900)

(https://i.imgur.com/BcSsoPS.gif)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 12, 2022, 12:25:06 am
like the kind of harassment PM Trudeau regularly deals with... NDP leader Singh was met with disturbing verbal assaults and physical intimidation (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1524582656821719041/pu/vid/1280x720/ZifMkcfHOZd3iFrF.mp4?tag=14) while campaigning for an Ontario provincial NDP candidate.

CPC leader candidate Aitchison commented on the Singh abuse following a similar theme to what he presented during tonight's CPC leadership debate: that the politics of division and corrosive vitriol are further stoking societal polarization:
(https://i.imgur.com/F1o314c.gif)

NDP leader Singh has followed up with a statement on the incident:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FShNMriXwAAJJxX?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 12, 2022, 12:40:27 am
perhaps it was the format of tonight's CPC leadership debate that tempered the prescient lead-up G&M columnist Coyne was offering; one based on the initial debate from last week, with Coyne suggesting the only issue is which candidate can take the most unhinged positions on the fringiest topics!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSfPGK8XEAET-xL?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 12, 2022, 01:23:04 am
(https://news.coincu.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Conservative-Party-Candidate-for-Prime-Minister-of-Canada-Pays-Lunch-With-Bitcoin-via-Lightning-Network.png)

during tonight's CPC leadership debate Poilievre took significant attacks over his crypto advocacy... with a flummoxed skippy finally reduced to simply suggesting his position has been mischaracterized - something Patrick Brown rebutted with: "No one in this room, and no one in Canada will believe that you didn't say you can opt out of inflation through cryptocurrency. … It is bad advice to be giving to Canadians, that is so risky, and you should know that as a former finance critic, that's not the advice you should be giving to the country."
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 12, 2022, 09:47:40 am
like the kind of harassment PM Trudeau regularly deals with... NDP leader Singh was met with disturbing verbal assaults and physical intimidation (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1524582656821719041/pu/vid/1280x720/ZifMkcfHOZd3iFrF.mp4?tag=14) while campaigning for an Ontario provincial NDP candidate.

These goons always look exactly how you expect them to look.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 12, 2022, 11:07:20 am
These goons always look exactly how you expect them to look.

the organizing 'brainTrust'... Roy Aseltine & Nicole Comber (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1524475442555674630/pu/vid/384x848/jY6zo1d5ooQIlpOh.mp4?tag=12): "show them the hold-fast {white authority} pride"
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 12, 2022, 11:09:33 am
a Charest zinger!

(https://i.imgur.com/5mhSEp4.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 18, 2022, 11:06:50 pm
recent days Poilievre-Peterson interview posted to Youtube (1.5 hours long)... extracts are beginning to appear such as this lil' ditty with skippy being asked by Peterson what makes him credible in terms of, "who he is and what he's offering"! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1526607226655236096/pu/vid/1280x720/lh3ddVAKlPN7uD8T.mp4?tag=12) Skippy responds: "I'm a believer in using, simple Anglo Saxon words that strike right at the meaning I'm trying to convey".

simple Anglo Saxon words??? Anyone... anyone... anyone?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 18, 2022, 11:49:12 pm
recent days Poilievre-Peterson interview posted to Youtube (1.5 hours long)... extracts are beginning to appear such as this lil' ditty with skippy being asked by Peterson what makes him credible in terms of, "who he is and what he's offering"! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1526607226655236096/pu/vid/1280x720/lh3ddVAKlPN7uD8T.mp4?tag=12) Skippy responds: "I'm a believer in using, simple Anglo Saxon words that strike right at the meaning I'm trying to convey".

simple Anglo Saxon words??? Anyone... anyone... anyone?

So now Peterson is schilling for Pierre?  Lol.  Pete needs career advice.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 19, 2022, 05:45:32 am
 :-* 1.5 hours?
What else is in there?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 19, 2022, 11:19:40 am
recent days Poilievre-Peterson interview posted to Youtube (1.5 hours long)... extracts are beginning to appear such as this lil' ditty with skippy being asked by Peterson what makes him credible in terms of, "who he is and what he's offering"! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1526607226655236096/pu/vid/1280x720/lh3ddVAKlPN7uD8T.mp4?tag=12) Skippy responds: "I'm a believer in using, simple Anglo Saxon words that strike right at the meaning I'm trying to convey".

simple Anglo Saxon words??? Anyone... anyone... anyone?

Me meeting Pierre Pollivere at a campaign event: Hello.
PP: Mé lícaþ þé tó métanne.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 19, 2022, 11:27:20 am
Means 'pleased to meet you'

https://omniglot.com/language/phrases/oldenglish.htm
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 19, 2022, 01:36:21 pm
There hasn’t been much in the media about Poilievre using that phrase.  They should be hounding him to provide an explanation.

Like, WTF???  “Anglo Saxon words”.  On the face of it, it’s meaningless…. However, it can certainly be taken as “I don’t speak jive, like the coloured folks do…. I speak proper white words”. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 19, 2022, 03:21:30 pm
There hasn’t been much in the media about Poilievre using that phrase.  They should be hounding him to provide an explanation.

Like, WTF???  “Anglo Saxon words”.  On the face of it, it’s meaningless…. However, it can certainly be taken as “I don’t speak jive, like the coloured folks do…. I speak proper white words”.

Maybe they're saving the racism accusation for the bit gaffe that is surely coming.

What will it be ?

-Slapping hands with an older woman of colour
-Asking someone if they're an Injun
-Bitcoining
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 19, 2022, 04:40:30 pm
Maybe they're saving the racism accusation for the bit gaffe that is surely coming.

What will it be ?

-Slapping hands with an older woman of colour
-Asking someone if they're an Injun
-Bitcoining

Proposing a federal "no fat chicks" policy (JP's idea).

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 19, 2022, 05:17:41 pm
Proposing a federal "no fat chicks" policy (JP's idea).

That would cause me to move to Bavaria pretty quick.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 19, 2022, 05:57:14 pm
That would cause me to move to Bavaria pretty quick.

I could see you taking that straight to the Supreme Court!!

It would be made into one of those movies where the protagonist is so passionate that they go back to school and get a law degree when no one else would take the case…

“The story of one man’s love of the big-boned and his struggle to bring them justice”. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 21, 2022, 11:48:30 pm
skippy keeps nattering on about the BoC, "acting like an ATM for PM Trudeau"... on about the BoC, "printing money for PM Trudeau". Of course these are outright lies Poilievre is throwing at his ignorant and misinformed support base! The waldo had an earlier say on this "printing money nonsense":

#printMoMoney - oh wait, the waldo recently showcased that the BoC doesn't print money... it's all about balance sheet tallies, hey!

waldo factoid: its called quantitative easing (QE) in aid of influencing longer-term interest rates that matter to Canadians - simply a tool within the Bank of Canada's monetary policy tool chest that involves buying large amounts of bonds that the Government of Canada has issued and sold to financial institutions, such as commercial banks.
=> perpetuating a major misconception about QE: the BoC is not printing bank notes to buy government bonds; rather, to pay for the bonds the BoC issues a liability settlement balance to match the bonds value... expanding upon the bank's balance sheet but NOT the amount of circulating money.

and... such power PM Trudeau wields to impact upon global inflation!
(https://i.imgur.com/VDYtUFi.png)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 22, 2022, 12:32:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/2X1ekwe.jpg)

resistance..... is futile!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 22, 2022, 12:48:48 pm
We could be on the verge of something pretty good.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 22, 2022, 01:09:48 pm
Andrew Coyne flat-out calls candidate Lewis a nutbar!

(https://i.imgur.com/1NTR6af.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 22, 2022, 06:04:33 pm
In the debate I found Lewis just spoke vague cookie cutter talking points and didn't really say much at all.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 22, 2022, 06:05:22 pm
We could be on the verge of something pretty good.

What would that be?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 23, 2022, 06:33:16 pm
geezaz! When skippyForFreedumb loses the likes of Urback...

(https://i.imgur.com/VjfK5RA.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 23, 2022, 06:57:28 pm
Majority Liberals government in the headlights...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 23, 2022, 11:08:43 pm
Majority Liberals government in the headlights...

Maybe Charest will win the nomination?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 23, 2022, 11:13:37 pm
There is no party in Canada that isn't a giant piece of crap.  They are literally all embarrassingly bad.  Our politicians are insane ideologues with little common sense to go around.  My theory is you have to be at least partially insane to run for public office in the first place.   I fear for this country.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 24, 2022, 12:47:38 am
more WEF nonsense from Poilievre... with references to past Harper Conservatives attending the 2010 & 2015 conferences! What a maroon, what a rube!

(https://i.imgur.com/LQGFo1Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 24, 2022, 03:33:45 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTcdZRdWIAEX_7A?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 25, 2022, 11:21:45 am
clearly skippy thinks he has a winner with his attacking the WEF!

(https://i.imgur.com/jRKgEf2.gif)

meanwhile John Baird, attendee at multiple past WEF conferences and one of Poilievre's national campaign co-chairs, still hasn't commented - go figure!

(https://i.imgur.com/5XP8nVp.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 25, 2022, 11:43:29 am
What a **** show...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 25, 2022, 12:39:53 pm
LOL imagine spending so much time talking about something only a tiny fringe of lead-poisoned Facebook addicts cares about, what a goof.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 25, 2022, 01:27:43 pm
LOL imagine spending so much time talking about something only a tiny fringe of lead-poisoned Facebook addicts cares about, what a goof.

Many left of centre people are sick of defending old schools Libs and Tories to these idiots now too
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 25, 2022, 02:18:15 pm
I want to know how Poilievre is going to build back better.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 25, 2022, 02:29:09 pm
I want to know how Poilievre is going to build back better.

1. Bitcoin
2. Pull out of the UN and WHO
3. Freedom
4. Not Trudeau
5. ...
6. Resign
7. Top rated podcaster
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 25, 2022, 02:40:51 pm
1. Bitcoin
2. Pull out of the UN and WHO
3. Freedom
4. Not Trudeau
5. ...
6. Resign
7. Top rated podcaster

You forgot the World Economic Forum conspiracy idiocy. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 25, 2022, 02:41:55 pm
You forgot the World Economic Forum conspiracy idiocy.

No these are steps to build back better
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on May 26, 2022, 10:55:48 am
Many left of centre people are sick of defending old schools Libs and Tories to these idiots now too

I don't even think it's worth engaging the nuts, they don't live in the same reality as the rets of us.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on May 26, 2022, 12:02:20 pm
I don't even think it's worth engaging the nuts, they don't live in the same reality as the rets of us.

They seem to be walling themselves off into sealed rooms of their own which should do wonders for their dwindling influence.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on May 26, 2022, 01:54:15 pm
They seem to be walling themselves off into sealed rooms of their own which should do wonders for their dwindling influence.

Dwindling influence? 

They’re about to have the leader of the Official Opposition and potential PM of Canada.  Their influence sounds like it’s on the rise to me…

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on May 26, 2022, 03:30:20 pm
1. Bitcoin
2. Pull out of the UN and WHO
3. Freedom
4. Not Trudeau
5. ...
6. Resign
7. Top rated podcaster

Might as well elect shady.  At least we could brag to people that we know him.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on May 28, 2022, 01:21:40 pm
Bergen just bounced my MP as finance critic for criticizing Pollievre's position on firing the head of the BoC.

"I'm deeply troubled by the suggestions by one of our leadership candidates, that that candidate would be prepared to interfere already at this stage in the independence of our central bank. We lose some of our credibility when we do this". Looks like he is supporting Charest.

I'm increasingly getting stuck between an MP I respect (but don't always agree with) and a party that I am starting to detest. Hopefully they can redeem themselves by selecting someone sane.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on May 30, 2022, 10:53:02 am
Bergen just bounced my MP as finance critic for criticizing Pollievre's position on firing the head of the BoC.

the full related statement from {now former} CPC shadow minister for finance, Ed Fast:

Quote from: CPC shadow minister for finance, Ed Fast
I'm deeply troubled by suggestions by one of our leadership candidates, that that candidate would be prepared to interfere already at this stage in the independence of our central bank.

We lose some credibility when we do this. ... It is fair to ask questions, to demand solutions to the skyrocketing cost of living. But we also have to respect the institutions that have been granted independence to ensure that they function apart from political interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rIh5stNVs
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 06, 2022, 04:53:20 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ZH4e1Qs.gif)

yeah Polio! You go Smallpox - you go! Don't let us down rubella, meningitis, measles.....
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on June 06, 2022, 05:48:34 pm
Polio Pete... let's hope that sticks...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 06, 2022, 07:27:24 pm
It should show who the true crackpots in the Conservative Party are.   This is going to create another wedge within conservatives, as everyone else is basically on the same page with vaccines. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on June 06, 2022, 07:38:47 pm
Polio Pete... let's hope that sticks...

I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on June 06, 2022, 07:54:49 pm
I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.

They gave a megaphone to the stupids...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 06, 2022, 10:24:01 pm
I was a kid during the polio epidemic. Parents were ecstatic when a vaccine became available and we lined up to get it. The idea of not being vaccinated would have been looney tunes back then. Polio and smallpox vaccination clinics were standard in schools.

Vaccines are good.  We should highly encourage them without a doubt.  The question is whether the state should force kids to have medicine injected into them, such is exactly what we're talking any here.

Personally I would still feel safe if a few kids in my kid's class didn't have vaccinations as long as my kid did.   Denying a kid their right to an education because their parents don't consent to their child undergoing a medical procedure the state wants them to have is a very serious thing.

The parents who don't vax their kids are stupid, but people have a right to be stupid and to consent to medical procedures.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: segnosaur on June 08, 2022, 12:12:39 am
Vaccines are good.  We should highly encourage them without a doubt.  The question is whether the state should force kids to have medicine injected into them, such is exactly what we're talking any here.
Of course, you seem to be ignoring the fact that the state never actually forces children to take vaccines. You always have the option of (for example) homeschooling. Yeah, that's a lot more inconvenient than sending them off to school. But that's the price of stupidity.

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Personally I would still feel safe if a few kids in my kid's class didn't have vaccinations as long as my kid did.
"Safe" is not always a simple binary 'yes/no' issue. Your kids will be safer with the vaccine than without. But having unvaccinated kids around decreases the amount of safety .

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Denying a kid their right to an education because their parents don't consent to their child undergoing a medical procedure the state wants them to have is a very serious thing.
Children have a right to an education. But children (and teachers) also have a right to be safe.

Vaccines work very well, but they are not 100%... some people (for whatever reason) do not develop the proper immune response, and they can be infected. The potential of loss of education in the unvaccinated child must be weighed against the potential health risks to a child that has been fully vaccinated by still has the potential to be infected. So who's rights take precidence?

Plus, even if you assume "vaccinated kids are safe enough", if you drop the vaccine mandate you have to consider the possibility that overall vaccination rates will fall, thus adding to even more risk.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 08, 2022, 11:11:25 am
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 08, 2022, 05:07:44 pm
geezaz Candi! Is this all you've got... to solve 'justinflation'? That's it?

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 11, 2022, 12:40:03 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/AbAkEmI.gif)

It’s time for Pierre Poilievre to get serious and stop giving oxygen to Conservatives’ furious fringe (https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2022/06/08/its-time-for-pierre-poilievre-to-get-serious-and-stop-giving-oxygen-to-conservatives-furious-fringe.html?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=OpinionStaff&utm_content=stareditorial&utm_source=twitter&source=torontostar&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=&utm_campaign_id=&utm_content=)

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In his quest for the national Conservative leadership it seems there are no limits on what Poilievre is prepared to say to curry favour with the angry anti-vax constituency in his party, the same people prone to disappear down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories about globalist plots to run the world.
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How much of what he’s saying now is based on sincere belief, and how much is just a cynical bid for votes among the Conservatives’ furious fringe?
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But at the moment he is riding a tiger. It looks like it’s carrying him to the Conservative leadership, but he’s feeding forces that he may not be able to control down the road.

It’s time for Poilievre to get serious and make clear where he stands on all this. Becoming leader of one of the country’s national parties carries with it great responsibility. Fuelling fringe theories and casting doubt on whether he would fight a future pandemic fails that test spectacularly.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: eyeball on June 11, 2022, 10:01:24 pm
I'd prefer a forensic inquiry into money laundering and real estate but a public inquiry would be better than nothing.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 11, 2022, 11:12:26 pm
I'd prefer a forensic inquiry into money laundering and real estate but a public inquiry would be better than nothing.

I'd prefer scrapping the whole system and going direct democracy.  A lot harder to buy off tens of millions of Canadians than a bunch of well-connected politicians.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on June 12, 2022, 07:03:59 am
The most inclusive form of government is inclusive tribal governance.  We have the technical tools to try to scale this.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on June 12, 2022, 10:35:35 am
I'd prefer scrapping the whole system and going direct democracy.  A lot harder to buy off tens of millions of Canadians than a bunch of well-connected politicians.

The last federal election cost over $600 million, are you going to spend that every time there is a bill to vote on?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 12, 2022, 02:52:16 pm
The last federal election cost over $600 million, are you going to spend that every time there is a bill to vote on?

Do it online.  I submit my taxes online every year and do banking almost exclusively online.

How much good vs bad do our "democratic representatives" do for this country?  I trust Canadians to act in the best interests of the country and everyday citizens than I do these idiots.  They suck, many of them are crooks, at least the ones with any power, so take away their power as much as possible.

We can see corruption destroying Canada and the US right before our eyes.  Remove the middle-man.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on June 12, 2022, 04:19:07 pm
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 12, 2022, 04:46:50 pm
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

K
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 12, 2022, 04:49:05 pm
I don't have to do your homework for you when I say the sky is blue and you want proof.

If you need specifics that the Canadian and US political systems are corrupt then it's not I who is failing to think.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 12, 2022, 05:06:01 pm
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

MH, way to call member Nipples out! Given his response, clearly there's no there there... just Nipples being Nipples!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 12, 2022, 06:13:47 pm
MH, way to call member Nipples out! Given his response, clearly there's no there there... just Nipples being Nipples!

the waldo, featuring 5800+ posts all consisting of...

(https://c.tenor.com/sHY2qL3VfMIAAAAC/wizrd-of-oz-pay-no-attention.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 13, 2022, 05:52:04 pm
Charges of corruption without specifics strike me as extremely basic and unthoughtful.

If you need specifics that the Canadian and US political systems are corrupt then it's not I who is failing to think.

c'mon Nipples - it's a simple request that you're scrambling to ignore/avoid!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 13, 2022, 07:01:10 pm
c'mon Nipples - it's a simple request that you're scrambling to ignore/avoid!

You want me to post decades worth of news articles?  Like I said, i'm not doing your own homework for you.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on June 13, 2022, 07:22:29 pm
Sponsorship Scandal, Adscam. Didn't even have to look that up.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 13, 2022, 08:34:21 pm
no! Nipples spoke of the system... stated that the Canadian political system is corrupt... as in systemic corruption distinct from examples of corruption within particular programs; as in the Sponsorship example given. That particular program example involved administrative misuse & misdirection of public funds - one program of hundreds... thousands of programs!

it shouldn't be so difficult for member Nipples to grasp - systemic political corruption versus program specific corruption
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 13, 2022, 08:37:29 pm
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on June 14, 2022, 08:05:04 am
no! Nipples spoke of the system... stated that the Canadian political system is corrupt... as in systemic corruption distinct from examples of corruption within particular programs; as in the Sponsorship example given. That particular program example involved administrative misuse & misdirection of public funds - one program of hundreds... thousands of programs!

it shouldn't be so difficult for member Nipples to grasp - systemic political corruption versus program specific corruption

I wouldn’t accuse individual members of being on the take but parties definitely look after their friends when in power.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on June 14, 2022, 09:59:03 am
Do it online.  I submit my taxes online every year and do banking almost exclusively online.

How much good vs bad do our "democratic representatives" do for this country?  I trust Canadians to act in the best interests of the country and everyday citizens than I do these idiots.  They suck, many of them are crooks, at least the ones with any power, so take away their power as much as possible.

We can see corruption destroying Canada and the US right before our eyes.  Remove the middle-man.

Have you actually met many Canadians?

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oz8xTl6sGKbuRPDDW/giphy.gif)


Jokes aside, I don't know why individual Canadians would be any less self-interested than politicians.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 14, 2022, 06:35:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/9PoGxGc.gif)

the waldo converts to bitcoin!
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 14, 2022, 06:35:58 pm
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 14, 2022, 10:27:50 pm
Have you actually met many Canadians?

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oz8xTl6sGKbuRPDDW/giphy.gif)


Jokes aside, I don't know why individual Canadians would be any less self-interested than politicians.

They are but it's their country.   It's also harder to pay off tens of millions.

The whole point of democracy is rule by will of the people.  Self-determination.  If politicians aren't acting in the interests of voters the system doesn't work.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on June 15, 2022, 10:27:46 am
Always trust Sir Mackenzie Bowell

https://twitter.com/PMBowell/status/1537080259463372800

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 16, 2022, 04:20:30 am
no! Nipples spoke of the system... stated that the Canadian political system is corrupt... as in systemic corruption distinct from examples of corruption within particular programs; as in the Sponsorship example given. That particular program example involved administrative misuse & misdirection of public funds - one program of hundreds... thousands of programs!

it shouldn't be so difficult for member Nipples to grasp - systemic political corruption versus program specific corruption

still waiting Nipples... still waiting! The waldo is shocked you haven't... can't... support your claim of systemic political corruption - that the Canadian political system, the system, is corrupt! What a moron you are, hey Nipples!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 16, 2022, 11:36:28 am
oh my! Prominent... er, leading Conservative journalist Andrew Coyne on today's Conservative, today's Conservatism!

(https://i.imgur.com/6Lmadom.gif)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 18, 2022, 11:50:42 am
Poilievre revisionism extraordinaire!

(https://i.imgur.com/XyFjQM2.gif)

if only PM Trudeau had "listened to the people" says skippy! As in listen to their MOU demands to overturn the 2021 election results in favour of a ruling "committee" of far-right extremists, the Senate and the Governor General... which eventually shifted into a proposal where a core group of "Freedumb Convoy" organizers and their supporters would govern, “with the Conservatives, and the NDP, and the Bloc as a coalition.” This... this is the rabble, the nonsense that the CPC/Poilievre supported. Imagine PM Trudeau ignoring them in favour of invoking the Emergencies Act - imagine!

wait waldo, there's more: Freedom Convoy protesters set to return to Ottawa for Canada Day, stay through summer (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/freedom-convoy-protesters-return-canada-day-1.6492504)

freeeeeeeeeeeedom!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 18, 2022, 03:55:50 pm
such unadulterated bullshyte from Poilievre! (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1538194080475258881/vid/1280x720/lIafy7LOJ6zIbV-m.mp4?tag=14)... apparently, Canada's nationality is freedom - who knew, who knew!

this grifter says,
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So many of our freedoms are under attack as big bossy government takes your money and tells you what to do... imposing vaccine mandates and attacking your dollar value. You no longer have the freedom to spend your wages because it is being inflated away by a deliberate inflationist policy imposed by the federal government and executed by an incompetent central bank. All of these attacks on our freedom have taken away from the great heritage that Laurier advanced when he was Prime Minister, at a time when he advanced freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise, freedom of trade.
.
I'm running for Prime Minister to put you back in control of your life by making Canada the freest nation on earth.

of course all those organizations that follow/review/rank the freedom of global nations consistently rank Canada's freedom comparatively high... geezaz skippy, even the Fraser Institute stink tank ranks Canada 6 out of 152 countries!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 19, 2022, 12:34:27 pm
wound licking appears over as O'Toole finally resurfaces!

=> Erin O'Toole wants his party to find a 'balance' between conservatism and populism. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-populism-the-house-wherry-analysis-1.6492946) --- Former leader says Conservatives need to 'come up with positive change, not add to the anger'
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Whoever the next leader is … they will have to get the balance right between conservative, traditional policies and populism.

And I believe as leaders we have to channel people's frustrations into positive change, not add fuel to the fire.

Citing the influence of American culture and the effects of Western alienation, rural issues and pandemic fatigue, O'Toole said Conservatives need to "come up with positive change, not add to the anger."

Anyone that wins will have to strike that right balance for the well-being of the country. That's what I was always trying to say to my caucus.

He said he hopes the next Conservative leader will "realize that the country is in a fractious state but provide a plan to heal those divisions."
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 20, 2022, 05:30:12 pm
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 22, 2022, 06:49:11 am
by the by, of course in Canada... it's 'freedom of expression', not 'freedom of speech'

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 26, 2022, 12:20:07 am
recent Mainstreet survey of Carleton Ottawa riding... Poilievre's riding:

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 26, 2022, 12:20:38 am
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on June 26, 2022, 12:51:11 am
PM Trudeau & NDP leader Singh have both offered comment on the U.S. Supreme Court decision striking down 'Roe vs. Wade'... so have CPC leadership candidates Charest, Brown and Lewis. Surprisingly freedomMan Poilievre has nothing to say! Who says skippy revels in ambiguity... in inexactness!

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 06, 2022, 06:42:53 am
hey now Conservative Leadership Election Organizing Committee (LEOC)... whatchaGonnaDo when candidate for CPC leader Patrick Brown gets tooooo close to the 'annointedOne' Poilievre? Why, no worries, you simply disqualify the guy! Clearly Brown's relentless attacks against the presumed frontrunner in the race, Pierre Poilievre, has consequence! Patrick Brown disqualified from Conservative leadership race (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/patrick-brown-disqualified-1.6511407)

statement from Patrick Brown campaign:
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 06, 2022, 12:12:19 pm
geezaz! When the CPC loses lilleyPad... and Kinsella!

(https://i.imgur.com/2nJJ3Kk.gif)

Disqualifying Brown an indictment of Conservative Party itself (https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-disqualifying-brown-an-indictment-of-conservative-party-itself) --- The party establishment appear to have rigged the race to favour Pierre Poilievre.

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After answering questions on a variety of issues, though, Brown said he was booted from the race over an anonymous allegation that an organizer was being paid by a private company to campaign for him. He said his campaign asked for details on who the organizer was, or which company was allegedly paying organizers, but said the party refused to say.

“You can’t fight a phantom,” Brown said.

Without details, he said his team wasn’t able to look into the matter or provide evidence either supporting or refuting the allegation.

He called the process to remove him unfair, damaging to the party, and ultimately done to try and ensure a Pierre Poilievre victory.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 07, 2022, 02:14:54 pm
counsel to Patrick Brown - enter prominent criminal defence lawyer, 'Marie Henein':

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXBu0RiWAAE5yt1?format=jpg) - (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXBu0RmXkAM8Zfb?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on July 07, 2022, 02:36:46 pm
Looks like he won't be going quietly...

Over at the Conspiracy Board the people who cried conspiracy when the far-right candidates were tossed are strangely silent.

Personally I don't care.  I would support a good Conservative candidate if the party ever for some reason elected one, but not Poilievre who is a populist pull-doll with all the preprogrammed talky talks.  Pull the string ... "Freedom" and then pull it again "Freedom"

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 10, 2022, 12:32:18 am
Global News' Rachel Gilmore: asking Poilievre/campaign (apparently inconvenient) questions about his associations with some of the 'far-right' Trucker Convoy characters - instead of receiving a response with answers to the questions, Gilmore is instead called unprofessional while Poilievre plays the, 'victim under attack' ploy!   

(https://i.imgur.com/MiCja5K.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 10, 2022, 12:45:42 am
(^) Global News' Rachel Gilmore's related column: How close is too close to the far-right? Why some experts are worried about Canada’s MPs (https://globalnews.ca/news/8967781/how-close-is-too-close-to-the-far-right-why-some-experts-are-worried-about-canadas-mps/)

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On June 30, Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre made a choice.

Wearing a crisp blue shirt and a politician’s smile, he walked up to a group of anti-vaccine mandate protesters and led the pack as it walked down Ottawa’s streets.

Beside him marched a man named James Topp, an anti-vaccine figure now set to face a court martial, who had been walking across the country to draw attention to his opposition to vaccine mandates. Topp, however, had recently joined a podcast run by far-right figurehead Jeremy Mackenzie for over an hour, saying that the podcast and others like it “kept (him) hanging on.” Mackenzie said in January that the “Freedom Convoy,” which gathered in Ottawa in February, could “bring down the government.”

“I want to be there. I want to see this s–-t happen,” Mackenzie said in a YouTube broadcast at the time.

It’s unclear why Poilievre “felt that he needed to” meet with Topp, said Stephanie Carvin, a former CSIS analyst who now teaches at Carleton University.

“But it definitely was a choice with consequences,” she said — including, potentially, emboldening and legitimizing the more extreme views among the convoy’s supporters.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 10, 2022, 12:57:51 am
the anonymous person 'whistleblower' behind the Patrick Brown accusations is no longer anonymous... and none other than the Sun's Warren Kinsella writes an 'open letter' to her: Open letter to 'whistleblower' behind Patrick Brown accusations (https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-open-letter-to-whistleblower-behind-patrick-brown-accusations)

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Dear Debbie Jodoin:
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It’s simply an open letter written to you, the person identified as the “whistleblower” who prompted the expulsion of Patrick Brown from the Conservative leadership race.

One complaint from one person: that’s all it took, Debbie. Apparently what you had to say was so powerful, so incontrovertible, so damning, you alone could force the expulsion of one of the frontrunners in your party’s leadership contest. Even after the ballots have been printed up with his name on them. Wow.

What did you say that would have such a dramatic result? That’s the question everyone is asking, because the Conservative Party brass are refusing to say anything meaningful.
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Now, Debbie, I sent you a number of questions prior to writing this opinion column. You did not respond to any of them.

Here they are:

1. Have you received employment or compensation, or offer of same, by the Poilievre campaign or the Conservative Party?

2. You have posted multiple statements on social media applauding Poilievre and his campaign staff. Were you in contact with them, or their representatives, when you were ostensibly supporting Patrick Brown?

3. We have received statements and suggestions that you were placed — or offered yourself to do so — in the Brown campaign by the Poilievre campaign to damage the former. Is this true?

4. Have you received any compensation or consideration from any individual associated with the Poilievre campaign, or supportive of same?

Anyway. No response.
...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 12, 2022, 08:37:30 pm
I bet the CPC could get a strong majority with Charest. I think, however, they're overall far too stupid for that and will lose official opposition status and be a third or fourth party under Polievre.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 12, 2022, 08:51:24 pm
I bet the CPC could get a strong majority with Charest. I think, however, they're overall far too stupid for that and will lose official opposition status and be a third or fourth party under Polievre.

It says a lot about the party when Pierre is a leading voice within the party.  How embarrassing.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on July 13, 2022, 06:56:56 am
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on July 13, 2022, 09:54:37 am
It's like the CPC doesn't want to govern again.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 13, 2022, 10:19:49 am
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

Not even a dog whistle anymore.

(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/2d8be8b/2147483647/legacy_thumbnail/1200x900%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F20%2Fa4%2Fb01d914445f0bf0aa5e08b15093a%2Fpatriot-front-arrests-43586.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 12:19:05 pm
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.

Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 13, 2022, 12:46:14 pm
Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.

Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.

A buzzword has no real meaning to me. 

If you want to discuss an actual issue where you think Canadians are losing freedoms, then it can be analyzed.

But the freedom you’re talking about is a campaign slogan.   Meaningless.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on July 13, 2022, 12:55:47 pm
^

THIS.

If you drill down as far as possible, "freedom" means:

- I don't want to wear a mask
- I think Political Correctness is threatening us

Neither of these positions are worthy of serious consideration.

Our three biggest problems:

- Unity (and the attendant shittyness of means and substance of discussion to bring us together)
- Environment (pollution, climate change waste etc.)
- Economy (runaway capitalist speculation, lack of fair wages, etc)

Imagine a leader who would step up and actually say that in public.... that person would get my vote.

Not a high school debate club president who never worked a job telling me he's going to protect my freedom.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 13, 2022, 01:14:32 pm
Meh, I could have been spared the wood analogy but I mostly agree with him, to a point.

"Freedom" has now become a dirty word and a "conservative meme" to the left. Let's think about that for a second.  Only in a statist society repressing civil liberties could this occur.


Statists, please downvote this post and reveal yourselves.  Show me your distain for freedom.

lmao what a mark.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 13, 2022, 02:02:45 pm
Graham is all about the buzzwords, slogans and truthiness without the thought given to the actual reality.

“A sense of Justice that traverses space and time” is a prime example of this.  It’s a completely meaningless statement.  But, from what I can tell, he believes it.   What “it” is remains ambiguous and unexplained. 

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 02:24:03 pm
^

THIS.

If you drill down as far as possible, "freedom" means:

- I don't want to wear a mask
- I think Political Correctness is threatening us

Neither of these positions are worthy of serious consideration.

That's your opinion, and an exaggeration.  Masks are fine, but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park.  Let's think about that for a second.

In a healthy, free society it is a good thing to question authority instead of simply submitting to them.  If we don't stand up for our civil liberties we will lose them. Brushing it away with "Well, it was an emergency and for the common good" is not good enough.

You are my friend, but I will be frank and try to be respectful. You have a long track record of statist positions and your support for some if not many basic civil liberties is at many times weak, for lack of a better word (remember our discussions on privacy).   If you're ok with being controlled by government and put a high priority on order that's fine, but expect that many others may not share this.  Some feel that being chained in movement,  or speech, etc is not fun.  Even if sometimes necessary.  Even thread drift on the other board...I say just let people talk, who cares really.  Is order so important all the time, to that extent? But the big C insists on micro-managing ... which people typically resent.

A key difference of opinion that keeps popping up. On the Political Compass I lean about -4 or -5 on the authoritarian/libertarian scale, I suspect your score is higher.

I dislike Pierre as a person, he's slimy, but that doesn't mean I disagree with him on all issues.  But he is now a meme.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 13, 2022, 03:00:38 pm
but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park. 


Cite
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on July 13, 2022, 03:24:30 pm
1.  Masks are fine, but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park.  Let's think about that for a second.

2. You are my friend, but I will be frank and try to be respectful. You have a long track record of statist positions and your support for some if not many basic civil liberties is at many times weak, for lack of a better word (remember our discussions on privacy).   If you're ok with being controlled by government and put a high priority on order that's fine, but expect that many others may not share this.  Some feel that being chained in movement,  or speech, etc is not fun.  Even if sometimes necessary.  Even thread drift on the other board...I say just let people talk, who cares really.  Is order so important all the time, to that extent? But the big C insists on micro-managing ... which people typically resent.

3. A key difference of opinion that keeps popping up. On the Political Compass I lean about -4 or -5 on the authoritarian/libertarian scale, I suspect your score is higher.  I dislike Pierre as a person, he's slimy, but that doesn't mean I disagree with him on all issues.  But he is now a meme.

1. I can disagree with that AND think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided
2. This is fair.  I don't expect you (or the convoy) to agree with me and in fact I can think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided AND sympathize.  IN fact, I believe a majority of Canadians are with me on this from a poll I saw.
3. Again, fair. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 04:08:18 pm
Cite

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/britannia-man-fined-880-while-walking-dog-through-britannia-park/wcm/2b73b63f-8622-495d-b428-8880842ab5dd/amp/ my
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 13, 2022, 04:24:32 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/britannia-man-fined-880-while-walking-dog-through-britannia-park/wcm/2b73b63f-8622-495d-b428-8880842ab5dd/amp/ my

This is the problem with your examples…. you’re full of sh!t.  This has nothing to do with masks.   He was fined for being in the park when it was closed.  Parks were  closed for a time to avoid crowds because they didn’t know how virulent the disease was.  Once we learned, parks were open again.

This is the problem with your sloganeering….  Individual cases don’t stand up to scrutiny.  Not to mention you see conspiracies to take away your freedoms where none exist.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 05:09:00 pm
This is the problem with your examples…. you’re full of sh!t.  This has nothing to do with masks.

Masking was a government imposed emergency legal requirement during COVID times.   Not walking through parks was a government imposed emergency legal requirement during COVID times.  Think harder buddy.

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This is the problem with your sloganeering….  Individual cases don’t stand up to scrutiny.  Not to mention you see conspiracies to take away your freedoms where none exist.

You asked for a cite about people getting fined for walking in a park.  I gave one.   If you agreed with them ok whatever.  Nothing I've said is false or misleading.  Banning group gatherings made some sense at the time.  But he was alone outside walking his dog through a park you f**king idiot.

"Sloganeering"?  Bugger off with this nonsense.  And I have no idea what you're talking about re: conspiracies lol.  I don't remember saying there's a secret plot to take away our freedoms.  You keep trying to pin memes on me because your arguments suck.  Use your brain instead of constant, never-ending insults like a tantrum- throwing toddler.  Like aren't you embarrassed?  Seriously, try disagreeing with someone like an adult for once.  It's call "debate" you stupid whiny f*ck.

BTW if someone starts insulting me I have every right to verbally annihilate them because f*ck you.  But you're still going to call me a hypocrite. STFU.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 13, 2022, 05:21:12 pm
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But he was alone outside walking his dog through a park

Any idea how a municipality can close a park to groups of three, but not to individuals? 

I don’t think they can….   The park is either open, or it’s closed.  It’s nuance that your brain seems to have a hard time grasping.

But, you go on to saying masking  was required…. And other measures were required.  So you can’t even really articulate what the freedoms that you claim were taken away even are.  You just deal in vague slogans and conspiracies. 


 
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But you're still going to call me a hypocrite

I’m not convinced you even know what the term means. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 07:42:52 pm
1. I can disagree with that AND think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided
2. This is fair.  I don't expect you (or the convoy) to agree with me and in fact I can think that the Convoy protests were unnecessary and misguided AND sympathize.  IN fact, I believe a majority of Canadians are with me on this from a poll I saw.
3. Again, fair.

Well at least if you can sympathize and not immediately write off all protesters as "dumb" that's at least more than some people.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 13, 2022, 07:54:28 pm
Any idea how a municipality can close a park to groups of three, but not to individuals?

I don’t think they can….   The park is either open, or it’s closed.  It’s nuance that your brain seems to have a hard time grasping.

When did I say they closed the park to groups but not individuals?  Your reading comprehension sucks.  You can't even read dude.  Go work for the city of Ottawa your numb-nuts brain would fit right in.

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But, you go on to saying masking  was required…. And other measures were required.  So you can’t even really articulate what the freedoms that you claim were taken away even are.  You just deal in vague slogans and conspiracies.

You can't even articulate a point properly and therefore nobody has any idea what you even just wrote, but it was probably something smug.  You can't read or write LOL.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 13, 2022, 08:16:10 pm
This kind of retarded pablum may work...

https://youtu.be/h3Mmd3llxP8

skippy's got wood!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8MZCpsqaFE (https://i.imgur.com/txNDpCV.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on July 14, 2022, 08:06:43 am
Laugh away Waldo but it's not too dumb to win the election.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 14, 2022, 10:59:48 am
That's your opinion, and an exaggeration.  Masks are fine, but people were fined for walking outdoors in a park.  Let's think about that for a second.

In a healthy, free society it is a good thing to question authority instead of simply submitting to them.  If we don't stand up for our civil liberties we will lose them. Brushing it away with "Well, it was an emergency and for the common good" is not good enough.

LMAO this you?

Do what (the cops) say, follow their lawful orders, you're very unlikely to get shot.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 14, 2022, 12:06:47 pm
LMAO this you?

Uhm you challenge their authority in court with a lawyer present or in the laws themselves via politicians.  If you want to physically challenge a cop when he's in front of you trying to arrest you and barking orders with a gun on his hip and a license to shoot you if you resist have fun getting shot.  Apparently you're cool with people getting into street fights with cops LOL, great advice!

I was also careful to say "lawful orders".  You're also free to verbally challenge a cop's authority if he's giving you unlawful orders (or lawful ones, though that will do nothing).  I've watched about a billion Youtube videos of "police audits".  A cop is extremely unlikely to shoot you or even arrest you if you're just running your mouth and calling them on their BS, especially with a camera rolling.  But if you're going to actually DO something stupid, like run, or reach for your waist, or otherwise resist arrest well congrats you're effed.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 14, 2022, 12:19:56 pm
Uhm you challenge their authority in court with a lawyer present or in the laws themselves via politicians.  If you want to physically challenge a cop when he's in front of you trying to arrest you and barking orders with a gun on his hip and a license to shoot you if you resist have fun getting shot.  Apparently you're cool with people getting into street fights with cops LOL, great advice!

(https://i.imgflip.com/6ms0qi.jpg)


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I was also careful to say "lawful orders".  You're also free to verbally challenge a cop's authority if he's giving you unlawful orders (or lawful ones, though that will do nothing).  I've watched about a billion Youtube videos of "police audits".  A cop is extremely unlikely to shoot you or even arrest you if you're just running your mouth and calling them on their BS, especially with a camera rolling.  But if you're going to actually DO something stupid, like run, or reach for your waist, or otherwise resist arrest well congrats you're effed.

Lawful orders like not walking through a closed park?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 14, 2022, 02:28:09 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/6ms0qi.jpg)

What's your point?


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Lawful orders like not walking through a closed park?

Right. I'm complaining about it online, I'm not getting into physical fights with bylaw officers.

If it were me I'd probably tell the officer to go eff themselves and not give them my ID which they'd request.  They'd probably call the real cops and detain or arrest me which I wouldn't resist because I'm not suicidal.  Then they'd ID me, give me the ticket, then release me.  Then I'd fight the ticket in court without a lawyer, which I'd lose, but I would be able to tell the government to suck my big giant black d!ck and be very satisfied that this statement is added to the public record.  I would request the transcript and email it to the mayor and every city councilor who approved the measure, and also frame the transcript to hang in my living room next to an artist's rendering of my giant black member.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 14, 2022, 03:24:54 pm
Cite?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 15, 2022, 09:55:11 am
What's your point?

You talk a big game but when the rubber hits the road you're yes sir no sir right away sir.

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Right. I'm complaining about it online, I'm not getting into physical fights with bylaw officers.

If it were me I'd probably tell the officer to go eff themselves and not give them my ID which they'd request.  They'd probably call the real cops and detain or arrest me which I wouldn't resist because I'm not suicidal.  Then they'd ID me, give me the ticket, then release me.  Then I'd fight the ticket in court without a lawyer, which I'd lose, but I would be able to tell the government to suck my big giant black d!ck and be very satisfied that this statement is added to the public record.  I would request the transcript and email it to the mayor and every city councilor who approved the measure, and also frame the transcript to hang in my living room next to an artist's rendering of my giant black member.

I love that you couldn't do this tough guy act without being a giant racist.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 15, 2022, 05:45:22 pm
I love that you couldn't do this tough guy act without being a giant racist.

Oh wow crying racism like a little b*tch.  Grow some balls.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 15, 2022, 05:53:10 pm
Oh wow crying racism like a little b*tch.  Grow some balls.

Here, class, we have an example of a mediocre micropenised middle aged white guy cosplaying as a black man and indulging in hoary racial stereotypes as a way of compensating for their own deep inadequacies.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 15, 2022, 06:22:16 pm
Here, class, we have an example of a mediocre micropenised middle aged white guy cosplaying as a black man and indulging in hoary racial stereotypes as a way of compensating for their own deep inadequacies.

Nah I just thought it was amusing.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 15, 2022, 08:45:01 pm
Here, class, we have an example of a mediocre micropenised middle aged white guy cosplaying as a black man and indulging in hoary racial stereotypes as a way of compensating for their own deep inadequacies.

He’s closer to 12, living in his mom’s basement.  He’s nowhere near middle aged.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 15, 2022, 09:08:01 pm
He’s closer to 12, living in his mom’s basement.  He’s nowhere near middle aged.

I'm 5 and I live in your mom's ying-yang.  I'm also black you racist.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 16, 2022, 12:07:49 pm
Press Progress - Luke LeBrun, July 13, 2022: Only 1-in-10 Canadians Believe ‘Free Speech’ is in Crisis, Despite What Right-Wing Voices Claim (https://pressprogress.ca/only-1-in-10-canadians-believe-free-speech-is-in-crisis-despite-what-right-wing-voices-claim/)

(https://pressprogress.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/image-2022-07-01.png)

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New research suggests a lopsided majority of Canadians do not believe “free speech” is on the verge of disappearing in Canada, findings that pour a tall glass of cold water on claims promoted by Pierre Poilievre and right-wing media sources.

According to a new survey released by the University of Saskatchewan’s Canadian Hub for Applied and Social Research, the belief that “freedom of speech” is in crisis appears to be a top-of-mind concern for a very small – but very loud – minority of Canadians.

Only 12.4% of respondents said they believe Canadians have little to no “freedom of speech” – by contrast, more than eight-in-ten Canadians take a less catastrophic view.

“The majority of respondents (85.9%) believe Canadians fully or somewhat have freedom of speech,” the USask survey states.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 19, 2022, 11:56:52 am
at what point do these children of the corn turn on skippy?

(https://i.imgur.com/o919Txh.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Dia on July 19, 2022, 02:24:30 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/britannia-man-fined-880-while-walking-dog-through-britannia-park/wcm/2b73b63f-8622-495d-b428-8880842ab5dd/amp/ my

He was fined for walking through a closed park, not for lack of masking. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2022, 09:17:51 pm
He was fined for walking through a closed park, not for lack of masking.

Correct.  I didn't say otherwise.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 21, 2022, 05:28:37 pm
CPC leadership committee (LEOC) opts for a 3rd campaign debate... but skippy exercises his freeedom to refuse to attend!

(https://i.imgur.com/dzMMGC6.gif)

Poilievre campaign spokesperson Jenni Byrne provides statement... Charest campaign responds:

(https://i.imgur.com/Od3fpQl.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 21, 2022, 11:54:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYOx47JUcAAuCis?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 25, 2022, 12:30:24 am
yabut c'mon, Poilievre is a uniter... not a divider!

Will Red Tories create a new political party if Poilievre wins the CPC leadership? (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-will-red-tories-create-a-new-political-party-if-poilievre-wins-the-cpc/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

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... with populist pretender Pierre Poilievre poised since the outset to capture the poisoned chalice of Canadian politics that is the Conservative Party leadership.

The party looks set to embrace the grievance politics of U.S. Republicans and the European far right, just as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his fellow Liberals always hoped it would. They know that, faced with a Conservative Party leader who gives succour to misguided anti-vaxxers, angry truckers and right-wing conspiracy theorists, mainstream Canadian voters will opt for the comparatively safe Liberals, no matter how irritatingly woke the party’s leadership becomes.

Some supporters of Poilievre rival Jean Charest have concluded as much and are already musing about the creation of a new centre-right political party that would look, well, a lot like the old Progressive Conservative Party Mr. Charest led between 1993 and 1998.
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“Who speaks for the majority of mainstream Canadians, who describe themselves as fiscal conservatives with progressive views on social issues?” the group’s founder, former Tory leadership candidate Rick Peterson, writes on Centre Ice’s website. “Who speaks for those of us focused on pragmatic solutions and policies? Who speaks for those of us who dismay at the loud, single-issue and predictably slanted views that often dominate Party politics and leadership races?”
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Even if a new centre-right political party were to emerge in the wake of a Poilievre victory on Sept. 10, it is not clear if Mr. Charest, at 64, would be the obvious person to lead it. Mr. Macron was not yet 40 when he founded La République en Marche. And Mr. Charest’s current leadership campaign, while solid and principled, has not exactly caught on with the broader Canadian electorate.

Still, if only to restore some sanity to federal politics, no one should discourage Mr. Charest from trying.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 25, 2022, 07:56:11 pm
https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-polls/canadians-more-favourable-towards-charest-cpc-voters-prefer-poilievre
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 26, 2022, 10:06:02 am
yabut c'mon, Poilievre is a uniter... not a divider!

Will Red Tories create a new political party if Poilievre wins the CPC leadership? (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-will-red-tories-create-a-new-political-party-if-poilievre-wins-the-cpc/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Betteridge's law of headlines
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines)

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"This story is a great demonstration of my maxim that any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word "no." The reason why journalists use that style of headline is that they know the story is probably bullshit, and don’t actually have the sources and facts to back it up, but still want to run it."
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 26, 2022, 11:56:02 am
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"This story is a great demonstration of my maxim that any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word "no." The reason why journalists use that style of headline is that they know the story is probably bullshit, and don’t actually have the sources and facts to back it up, but still want to run it."

oh really! The linked-to G&M article is a mix of openly stated speculation peppered with supporting references to the Charest campaign's co-chairperson and former CPC leadership candidate Rick Peterson... founder of the group, also as referenced in the article, 'Centre Ice Conservatives (https://www.centreiceconservatives.ca/)'!

but hey now, another article (in The Hill Times) with some of the same players referenced... note the article headline doesn't end in a question mark! /snarc
=> If Conservatives fail to win next federal election, party would split, say some Conservatives (https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/07/25/if-conservatives-fail-to-win-next-federal-election-party-would-split-say-some-conservatives/373632)

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Self-described “progressive liberal” and freelance columnist Andrew Perez: “Blue Tories are becoming an endangered species,” and that if something isn’t done to combat the party’s increased embrace of populism, 2022 will be the year they finally go extinct.

While Perez said in an interview with The Hill Times that he believes the Red Tories may have “died” in 2003 after the creation of the CPC, there still remained a strong contingent of Blues alongside other social conservatives and libertarians.

However, since the defeat of Harper in 2015, the party has been “submerged by a brigade of ‘freedom-loving,’ anti-science, anti-establishment ‘activists’ that are intent on installing Pierre Poilievre as leader–whatever the cost to their party and movement.”

Perez argued that Poilievre, in particular, has “glommed on to grievance-based populism,” possibly due to learning the wrong lessons from the defeat of the party’s last two leaders, Scheer and O’Toole.

“I think there’s a sense within the party that the last two leaders were not effective and that the party needs to tack to the far right,” Perez said. “To really champion an approach that is diametrically opposed to Trudeau.”
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 26, 2022, 12:08:55 pm
the "legend" of Stephen Harper holds that his governing prowess managed to keep the fringe elements of the CPC in line... that's its only in Opposition that the populist driving caucus members have been given a free path to embrace the fringe minorities (aka, 'the base') with populist drivel!

but hey now, is this an actual endorsement from Harper - and if so, does it even carry any weight?
=> Stephen Harper says Pierre Poilievre has the best chance to win the next federal election (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-poilievre-endorsement-1.6531995)

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Former prime minister Stephen Harper says Pierre Poilievre is the Conservative leadership candidate with the best shot at leading the party to victory in the next federal election.

Harper's declaration came in a Monday evening video posted to Facebook and Twitter, in which he described Poilievre's ability to galvanize support from new members as a critical ingredient for success.

"That's how we win the next federal election, and in my opinion, Pierre has made by far the strongest case," Harper said.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on July 26, 2022, 12:17:28 pm
oh really! The linked-to G&M article is a mix of openly stated speculation peppered with supporting references to the Charest campaign's co-chairperson and former CPC leadership candidate Rick Peterson... founder of the group, also as referenced in the article, 'Centre Ice Conservatives (https://www.centreiceconservatives.ca/)'!

but hey now, another article (in The Hill Times) with some of the same players referenced... note the article headline doesn't end in a question mark! /snarc
=> If Conservatives fail to win next federal election, party would split, say some Conservatives (https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/07/25/if-conservatives-fail-to-win-next-federal-election-party-would-split-say-some-conservatives/373632)

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SkeletalCompleteCaecilian-max-1mb.gif)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 26, 2022, 01:17:44 pm
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SkeletalCompleteCaecilian-max-1mb.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/8FfNFcj.jpg)
says you, the guy who cared enough to 'Betteridge' the G&M article

Betteridge's law of headlines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 26, 2022, 01:20:15 pm
but hey now, is this an actual endorsement from Harper - and if so, does it even carry any weight?
=> Stephen Harper says Pierre Poilievre has the best chance to win the next federal election (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-poilievre-endorsement-1.6531995)

yes! Yes Harper is endorsing Freedom Clownvoy skippy! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1551723231135944704/pu/vid/1280x720/PWPejARBMo_mBhXP.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 27, 2022, 01:05:11 am
CPC leadership committee (LEOC) opts for a 3rd campaign debate... but skippy exercises his freeedom to refuse to attend!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYl7Bu1XwAA-1CR?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 27, 2022, 08:38:57 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYnjDNYXkAEGf0u?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 28, 2022, 06:35:02 am
yes! Yes Harper is endorsing Freedom Clownvoy skippy! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1551723231135944704/pu/vid/1280x720/PWPejARBMo_mBhXP.mp4?tag=12)

geezaz waldo! Yet another zinger from G&M's Andrew Coyne! Winner of one majority in five tries says Poilievre has what it takes (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-winner-of-one-majority-in-five-tries-says-poilievre-has-what-it-takes/)

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So Stephen Harper thinks Pierre Poilievre is the best choice to lead the federal Conservatives, on the grounds that he is the candidate most likely to win the next election.

This is big news. After all, who knows more about winning elections than Stephen Harper: the leader who took a certain Conservative victory in 2004 – the year of the sponsorship scandal – and turned it into a Liberal minority; who in 2006 turned a certain Conservative majority into a Conservative minority; who eked out another minority in 2008 against the historically inept Stéphane Dion; and who, after finally winning a potentially realigning majority in 2011 threw it away over the next four years.

At the end of which – after nearly 10 years in power – he departed with next to nothing in the way of a policy footprint: at least, of a conservative policy footprint. The Harper Conservatives jettisoned every principle that he or they had ever stood for, from democratic accountability to a strong defence to balanced budgets to free markets. And they still won but a single majority in five attempts. They sold their souls, and got nothing in return; swung for the lowest common denominator, and missed. All that remains of Mr. Harper’s legacy, the sole basis for his reputation as an unbending conservative, is his scowl: a petulant Cheshire cat.

So Mr. Harper’s endorsement of Mr. Poilievre is a big deal, especially among those who think Mr. Harper’s example is to be emulated or his judgment is to be trusted. Still, the supposition, apparently widespread, that the most unpopular minister in a deeply unpopular government has now become an unstoppable political phenomenon, based solely on his ability to turn out the anti-vaccine vote, seems to have emerged from the same strange universe in which Mr. Harper is a master strategist and principled conservative.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 29, 2022, 10:29:05 am
CPC leadership committee (LEOC) opts for a 3rd campaign debate... but skippy exercises his freeedom to refuse to attend!

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let Poilievre debate... freeeedom! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1552677246560788482/pu/vid/1280x720/Pgu3nZTfpKjk7CJX.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on July 29, 2022, 01:45:02 pm
Well, Trudeau is only 1 for 3 when it comes to majorities and it has only been Conservative ineptitude that has kept him in power at all.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 30, 2022, 08:16:55 pm
Well, Trudeau is only 1 for 3 when it comes to majorities and it has only been Conservative ineptitude that has kept him in power at all.

oh my! Conservative ineptitude™, hey! So... with Poilievre being widely touted as the next CPC leader, have they finally resolved that ineptitude concern you speak of?
(https://i.imgur.com/CvwyfqH.jpg)

but hey now, surely you haven't forgot about 'power broker' Singh (as in the coalition... err, Confidence & Supply agreement... to 2025, doncha know!)
(https://saltwire.imgix.net/2022/3/22/ndp-liberal-2-0322-20220322jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 30, 2022, 11:51:58 pm
but hey now, surely you haven't forgot about 'power broker' Singh (as in the coalition... err, Confidence & Supply agreement... to 2025, doncha know!)

That's not a majority.  Trudy has to lick the NDP's balls to get any legislation passed.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 31, 2022, 11:27:04 am
That's not a majority.  Trudeau has to lick the NDP's balls to get any legislation passed.

it's obvious you don't understand a/this Liberal/NDP 'Confidence & Supply Agreement'!

waldo splainer: in exchange for expedited progress on shared priorities (sans ball-lickin'), the NDP has agreed to uphold the government on budgetary matters of confidence and supply (typically formal confidence motions and votes on budgets and spending plans.) ... shared priorities like pharmacare, dentalcare, and childcare - key issues which the Liberal government campaigned on and was elected to enact.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 31, 2022, 11:43:04 am
it's obvious you don't understand a/this Liberal/NDP 'Confidence & Supply Agreement'!

waldo splainer: in exchange for expedited progress on shared priorities (sans ball-lickin'), the NDP has agreed to uphold the government on budgetary matters of confidence and supply (typically formal confidence motions and votes on budgets and spending plans.) ... shared priorities like pharmacare, dentalcare, and childcare - key issues which the Liberal government campaigned on and was elected to enact.

Thanks for the waldoganda.

I'll add your note next to the naked statue of Justin that I worship and sodomize on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on July 31, 2022, 11:56:40 am
I'll add your note next to the naked statue of Justin that I worship and sodomize on a daily basis.

the waldo is always here for you... particularly to help with your lack of understanding and to counter some of the plethora of misinformation that you spew! Carry on!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 31, 2022, 01:21:49 pm
the waldo is always here for you... particularly to help with your lack of understanding and to counter some of the plethora of misinformation that you spew! Carry on!

Would you like a handkerchief, you've got some slobber hanging from your chin?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on July 31, 2022, 02:46:54 pm
oh my! Conservative ineptitude™, hey! So... with Poilievre being widely touted as the next CPC leader, have they finally resolved that ineptitude concern you speak of?
(https://i.imgur.com/CvwyfqH.jpg)

but hey now, surely you haven't forgot about 'power broker' Singh (as in the coalition... err, Confidence & Supply agreement... to 2025, doncha know!)
(https://saltwire.imgix.net/2022/3/22/ndp-liberal-2-0322-20220322jpg)
Is ineptitude winning the popular vote in the last 2 elections?  😂
That used to be a pretty big deal to you people. 🤣
Regardless, Harper is 1 win and 1 lose versus wonder boy.  So I’m not sure why you include him in your list.  He would trounce wonder boy if he decided to buck tradition and run again.  People like him, Martin, Chrétien are serious people.  Trudeau is not.  People really want somebody who is an adult back in office.  Trudeau is a man child, who’s only in this position because his daddy used to be PM.  That’s assuming of course that he’s not actually Fidel Castro’s actual son.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 31, 2022, 04:01:28 pm
You should hear the actually actual stories I heard about your mother.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on July 31, 2022, 05:29:24 pm
You should hear the actually actual stories I heard about your mother.
I’m embarrassed for you.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 31, 2022, 05:36:50 pm
Only because you're ashamed of yourself  The Castro bit is stupid even by your standards.
...no, I take that back. It suits your standards perfectly.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on July 31, 2022, 05:54:29 pm
Only because you're ashamed of yourself  The Castro bit is stupid even by your standards.
...no, I take that back. It suits your standards perfectly.
Aww, poor baby.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 31, 2022, 08:26:11 pm
Aww, poor baby.
That"s what your mom says?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on July 31, 2022, 09:06:15 pm
That"s what your mom says?
I’m honestly embarrassed for you.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on July 31, 2022, 09:19:23 pm
And yet not embarrassed to call Trudeau's mom a wh0re. The projection is strong in this one.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on July 31, 2022, 11:45:25 pm
And yet not embarrassed to call Trudeau's mom a wh0re. The projection is strong in this one.
Yes, you’re the very definition of projection.  You’ve attacked politicians’ family members on a regular basis.  But now you get a case of the vapours as you clutch your hypocritical pearls?  GFY.  Regardless, I didn’t call her that.  Get professional help already.  Your brain is completely broken.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 01, 2022, 08:38:56 am
I don't have the vapours. I'm just laughing that you would call Trudeau's mom a wh0re, given your own situation. But any "family members" you speak of are people who have taken public roles in government, like, for example, Trump's daughter whom he wants to bang.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 02, 2022, 03:35:06 pm
Times up for Trudumb

The Liberals also lost the popular vote in the last two elections, and won with the smallest amount of the popular vote in Canadian history in 2020, defeating a record set by the Liberals in the election prior..
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 02, 2022, 04:07:07 pm
How much of the popular vote does the "coalition government" have?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 02, 2022, 04:55:34 pm
The Liberals also lost the popular vote in the last two elections, and won with the smallest amount of the popular vote in Canadian history in 2020, defeating a record set by the Liberals in the election prior..

again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT! Again, popular vote means diddlySquat. Again, yours is a losers lament! Popular vote is for losers! It's a consolation "prize"... like a participation ribbon! Again, the CPC vote numbers were minimally greater than the Liberals: in 2019 ~220K votes greater; in 2021 ~186K votes greater. Those numbers are hardly HUUUUUGE and in relation to other parties and respective provincial outcomes are principally "skewed" by one province - Alberta!

again: #Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
(https://i.imgur.com/Qya8NPL.jpeg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 02, 2022, 05:26:41 pm
again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT! Again, popular vote means diddlySquat. Again, yours is a losers lament! Popular vote is for losers! It's a consolation "prize"... like a participation ribbon! Again, the CPC vote numbers were minimally greater than the Liberals: in 2019 ~220K votes greater; in 2021 ~186K votes greater. Those numbers are hardly HUUUUUGE and in relation to other parties and respective provincial outcomes are principally "skewed" by one province - Alberta!

again: #Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
(https://i.imgur.com/Qya8NPL.jpeg)
Trudeau is also a loser.  Just checked his record.  Regardless, I’m glad you guys don’t care so much about popular vote anymore, since you can no longer win it.  The Ford election should show you what’s coming for wonder boy.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 02, 2022, 05:56:26 pm
Trudeau is also a loser.  Just checked his record.  Regardless, I’m glad you guys don’t care so much about popular vote anymore, since you can no longer win it. 
That's not true. The "coalition government" got over 50%.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 02, 2022, 08:05:59 pm
Trudeau is also a loser.  Just checked his record.  Regardless, I’m glad you guys don’t care so much about popular vote anymore, since you can no longer win it. The Ford election should show you what’s coming for wonder boy.

Ford, for all his many faults, isn't a unlikeable, charisma-free whackjob pandering to the dumbest people alive like Pollivere, so I have no idea how you can map the Ontario results onto the federal one. Just kidding, I do: you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 03, 2022, 11:28:09 am
yes! Yes Harper is endorsing Freedom Clownvoy skippy! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1551723231135944704/pu/vid/1280x720/PWPejARBMo_mBhXP.mp4?tag=12)

(https://i.imgur.com/R0f5s7f.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 03, 2022, 11:53:26 am
I’m glad you guys don’t care so much about popular vote anymore, since you can no longer win it.

again, only losers lamenting reach for popular vote! In your particular case the reach is quite comical, particularly given the minuscule numbers you presume to attempt to leverage; again, the popular vote numbers difference you're embarrassing yourself over:
=> in 2019 ~18 million votes were cast... the popular vote difference was ~220K votes greater;
=> in 2021 ~17 million votes were cast... the popular vote difference was ~186K votes greater


again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT!

#Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 03, 2022, 01:06:48 pm
again, only losers lamenting reach for popular vote! In your particular case the reach is quite comical, particularly given the minuscule numbers you presume to attempt to leverage; again, the popular vote numbers difference you're embarrassing yourself over:
=> in 2019 ~18 million votes were cast... the popular vote difference was ~220K votes greater;
=> in 2021 ~17 million votes were cast... the popular vote difference was ~186K votes greater


again, WINNERS WIN, LOSERS LAMENT!

#Trudeau3Peat ... apparently... it's a part of the Brand!
Yes, he won by losing! 😂😂😂
Thankfully for him, his buddy Jagoff came to the rescue! 🤣
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 03, 2022, 01:08:26 pm
Ford, for all his many faults, isn't a unlikeable, charisma-free whackjob pandering to the dumbest people alive like Pollivere, so I have no idea how you can map the Ontario results onto the federal one. Just kidding, I do: you're an idiot.
You vote like a teenage girl.  I couldn’t give a **** about personality and charisma.  I care about policies. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 03, 2022, 01:35:14 pm
You vote like a teenage girl.  I couldn’t give a **** about personality and charisma. I care about policies.

First, no you don't (how many memes have you posted about JT's hair/clothes?), and second, Pollivere's "policies" (that is: repeating the words "freedom" and "gatekeepers" over and over again) are dogshit too.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 05, 2022, 12:19:51 pm
First, no you don't (how many memes have you posted about JT's hair/clothes?), and second, Pollivere's "policies" (that is: repeating the words "freedom" and "gatekeepers" over and over again) are dogshit too.
Nope.  Taxes, budgets, vaccine mandates, immigration, housing, etc.  Keep your head up Trudeau's to shelter you from the truth.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 05, 2022, 12:24:05 pm
Nope.  Taxes, budgets, vaccine mandates, immigration, housing, etc.  Keep your head up Trudeau's to shelter you from the truth.

The truth is Pollivre is an empty husk who has somehow managed to make Trudeau look like an intellectual and policy heavyweight.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 05, 2022, 12:42:58 pm
The truth is Pollivre is an empty husk who has somehow managed to make Trudeau look like an intellectual and policy heavyweight.
BWAAAHAAAAAHAAA, a Trudeau supporter calling somebody else an empty husk!  Really?  It doesn't seem that way in question period.  Pollivere turns Trudeau into a babbling monkey.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 05, 2022, 12:50:24 pm
BWAAAHAAAAAHAAA, a Trudeau supporter calling somebody else an empty husk!  Really?  It doesn't seem that way in question period.  Pollivere turns Trudeau into a babbling monkey.

You think QP, a performance where politicians read scripted questions prepared by staffers, is indicative of intellectual prowess? Good lord you’re an easy mark.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 05, 2022, 12:53:03 pm
You think QP, a performance where politicians read scripted questions prepared by staffers, is indicative of intellectual prowess? Good lord you’re an easy mark.
Because after the initial questions, it's not scripted.  Once again though, a Trudeau supporter calling somebody else out for scripted questions is hilarious.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 05, 2022, 01:21:18 pm
I don't see any "Trudeau supporters" other than Waldo  I just see people criticizing him for what he actually does and other people criticizing him for imaginary things they read in Facebook memes.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 06, 2022, 01:58:37 am
I don't see any "Trudeau supporters" other than Waldo

(https://minimalistquotes.com/posterimages/you-go-to-war-with-the-army-you-have-not-the-army-.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 09, 2022, 09:53:55 am
Because after the initial questions, it's not scripted.

LOL yes it is.

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Once again though, a Trudeau supporter calling somebody else out for scripted questions is hilarious.

Your reading comprehension is, as always, below toddler level. I'm not calling out anyone for scripted questions, I'm laughing at you for being so credulous as to think PP's QP performances are in any way indicative of his intellect.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 10, 2022, 11:51:31 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZpPf-yXEAEKsPl?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 13, 2022, 04:04:57 am
Former B.C. premier Christy Clark endorses Jean Charest in Tory race --- Clark says federal Tories need to stick closer to the political centre (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/christy-clark-jean-charest-conservatives-federal-1.6549112)

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Former British Columbia premier Christy Clark endorsed Jean Charest on Wednesday to be the next leader of the federal Conservatives, at a time when she says the party is racing to the extremes.
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Clark's comment followed an impassioned speech she delivered in Edmonton to a room of conservatives gathered to discuss the need for the federal party to stick closer to the political centre.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 14, 2022, 12:38:24 pm
Andrew Coyne G&M Aug 12: Where would Poilievre take the Conservatives? Not to the far right, but the far out (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-where-would-poilievre-take-the-conservatives-not-to-the-far-right-but/)

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Mr. Poilievre is not properly understood as an ideological phenomenon. There is no such thing as Poilievrism. Nothing in his long career in politics, or in this campaign, suggests anything in the way of a coherent philosophy of government. Neither is that the basis of his appeal.

He made his name, after all, as Stephen Harper’s most eager attack dog, the backbencher willing to say and do whatever his master ordered, no matter how nasty. His most notable achievement, in his brief time as a junior cabinet minister, was the sinisterly misnamed Fair Elections Act. Guided by no apparent principle but a desire to tilt the electoral odds in the Tories’ favour, it caused a massive political firestorm and had to be substantially redrafted.

His campaign for leader has been singularly lacking in concrete policy proposals, beyond a vague promise to “give you back control of your life” – which turns out to mean abolishing COVID-19 vaccine mandates and little else – and hostility to various unnamed “gatekeepers.” Oh, and he’d “fire” the Bank of Canada governor, though that is not actually something a prime minister has the power to do.

What has Mr. Poilievre spent the current campaign talking about? The benefits of crypto currencies as a way of “opting out” of inflation; the heroism of the convoyards who took over downtown Ottawa earlier this year; accusations that the government is “spying on you everywhere” (a consultant’s report used anonymized cellphone data to track population movements); the evils of the World Economic Forum.

What, specifically, has he promised to do in government? He’d make federal infrastructure grants to cities conditional on approving new housing development. He’d withhold a part of federal research grants from universities that did not do enough to protect free speech on campus. He’d repeal Bill C-11, Liberal legislation that would regulate online streaming services like broadcasters. He’d invoke the notwithstanding clause to restore consecutive sentences for mass murderers. That’s about it.

Whether or not Mr. Poilievre is personally an extremist, his campaign is aimed squarely at attracting support from extremists. His followers do not support him because of what he is for, or what he would do in government. They only know what, and who, he is against, and – perhaps even more important – who is against him.

It would not matter to them if, on taking power, he pursued policies that were diametrically opposed to those few he has proposed as a candidate – any more than they were upset by Mr. Harper’s policy reversals. It isn’t about policy, for them or for him. It’s about attitude. It’s about taking the fight to the enemy.

Could he pivot, then, after the leadership race? In a sense, yes, and in a sense, no. I can imagine him adopting virtually any policy as leader if he thought it expedient. But that’s not really a pivot: That would require some initial position to pivot from. On the other hand, it’s harder to pivot from the sorts of associations he has made along the way. How do you “pivot” from hanging out with hostage-takers and amping conspiracy theorists?

Poor judgment, moral recklessness, bottomless opportunism: These aren’t policy positions, something you can moderate or explain away or wriggle out of. They’re attributes. They stick. That is increasingly the dividing line in American politics – not left versus right, but character and judgment versus their opposites. The party that is about to elect Mr. Poilievre – the party that, with the help of hundreds of thousands of new recruits, he has done much to create – looks likely to entrench the same cleavage in Canada.

This may be, in the end, where he would take the Conservative Party: not far right, but far out.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 15, 2022, 11:26:52 am
Andrew Coyne G&M Aug 12: Where would Poilievre take the Conservatives? Not to the far right, but the far out (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-where-would-poilievre-take-the-conservatives-not-to-the-far-right-but/)


David Moscrop WAPO Aug 8: It’s Poilievre’s Conservative Party. That’s bad news for Canada. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/08/pierre-poilievre-conservative-party-bad-news-canada/)

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For months, Pierre Poilievre has led the pack, a clear front-runner in a contest that will shape the future of the party. Right now, that future looks to be a toxic, right-wing populist libertarian turn — a nasty turn we’ve seen before around the world.

In late July, former Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper endorsed Poilievre. The nod wasn’t unexpected. It has long been assumed that Harper supported his former cabinet minister, just as it has long been known that Harper wasn’t the biggest fan of Poilievre’s principal rival, Jean Charest. The endorsement was a rubber stamp on top of a foregone conclusion. It made Poilievre the unity candidate — which is to say, it called for the ideological diversity of the party to be subsumed under Poilievre’s libertarian conservatism served with a dollop of populist pastiche. It’s Poilievre’s party now. That’s bad news for conservatives and the country.

The front-runner is also fond of torqued attacks against the Bank of Canada, journalists, the World Economic Forum and anyone who might plausibly be defined as a “gatekeeper.” His anti-elite, anti-establishment bit belies the fact he’s a career politician and former cabinet minister. He’s establishment all the way down. He’s a phony loudmouth who has been walking the halls of Parliament since 2004, when he was in his 20s.

With all those years in Parliament, you’d think he’d know what he’s talking about, but he doesn’t. He has made the federal budget a crusade: shrinking the deficit and debt, railing against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Bank of Canada’s “money printing” and inflation, and supporting a batty policy to force his ministers to cut a dollar of spending for each new dollar they wish to spend, as if government finance and personal finance are the same thing. It turns out, contrary to Poilievre’s lazy, rehashed-Thatcherist fever dream, that Canada is in healthy and sustainable fiscal shape. Inflation is a problem, a serious one, but it’s not caused by what Poilievre thinks it is, and it won’t be solved by his unserious, debate-club ideas.

While it’s too late to prevent Poilievre’s ascendancy to leader of the Conservative Party, it isn’t too late to resist him becoming prime minister. The Liberals, New Democrats and Greens ought to make it a priority to ensure he never forms a government. So should sensible Conservatives. Of course, the people of Canada must do the same. The problems Canada and the world face are far too great to leave to a right-wing, doctrinaire, stuffed-shirt politician of such little distinction, capacity or imagination.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 15, 2022, 11:38:40 am
Andrew Coyne G&M Aug 12: Where would Poilievre take the Conservatives? Not to the far right, but the far out (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-where-would-poilievre-take-the-conservatives-not-to-the-far-right-but/)

David Moscrop WAPO Aug 8: It’s Poilievre’s Conservative Party. That’s bad news for Canada. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/08/pierre-poilievre-conservative-party-bad-news-canada/)


Michael Harris The Tyee Aug 12: Pierre Poilievre Is a Symptom of the Conservatives’ Sickness (https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/08/12/Pierre-Poilievre-Symptom-Conservatives-Sickness/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email) - The party remains under the Harperites’ spell — or curse.

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Since Harper’s forced retreat from public life to ride the gravy train of right-wing political consulting, the party has gotten it emphatically wrong.

Despite three straight electoral losses, one under Harper, and two under the leadership of Harper mini-clones from his cabinet, the Conservatives are poised to select Pierre Poilievre on Sept. 10 as their next leader. Stay tuned for the fourth bellyflop in a row at the national polls.

The Conservatives are still the party of “Make Harperism Great Again.” Instead of taking the rejections of 2015, 2019 and 2021 as signs of the urgent need to reconstruct a party that had grown authoritarian, undemocratic and out of touch, they have doubled down on the policies that have turned them into the perpetual opposition, including fossil fuel worship, environmental myopia, anti-democratic practices and dismissiveness towards Indigenous Peoples in Canada.

Poilievre is more of a Harper protégé than Andrew Scheer or Erin O’Toole ever were.

But once Poilievre has to speak to a national audience, his messages — Trudeau-bashing, threatening to fire the governor of the Bank of Canada, and hailing cryptocurrency as the answer to inflation — will draw more laughs than votes.

Some people have said that once the Conservative leadership race wobbles to its anti-climactic end, Poilievre will merely “pivot” to a more centrist position to appeal to a wider audience. O’Toole tried that, after running on the right to win the top job, and no one believed him when he changed his spots.

And Poilievre is a Harper Conservative through and through. So rather than pivot, it is much more likely he will double down on the stuff that brings smiles to the faces of people who think vaccine mandates are a bad idea.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 18, 2022, 11:58:36 am
skippy states "it's time to stand up for fundamental Canadian values"! Yet somehow Poilievre has yet to actually stand up and describe his personal understanding of just what 'Canadian values'... are fundamental and how they're presently being undercut/compromised/threatened! Anyone, anyone, anyone...

(https://i.imgur.com/T3yAQuF.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 12:50:42 pm
skippy states "it's time to stand up for fundamental Canadian values"! Yet somehow Poilievre has yet to actually stand up and describe his personal understanding of just what 'Canadian values'... are fundamental and how they're presently being undercut/compromised/threatened! Anyone, anyone, anyone...

(https://i.imgur.com/T3yAQuF.jpg)
Arrivecan app for one.  Who the f**k is the PM to tell me whether or not I can leave the country. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 18, 2022, 01:06:26 pm
Keep away from the memes. They're feeding you incorrect information and you haven't the literacy to know better.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 01:15:53 pm
Keep away from the memes. They're feeding you incorrect information and you haven't the literacy to know better.
You're a mouthpiece for the powerful.

Ottawa is making plans to expand the capabilities of its ArriveCAN app even as criticism continues to mount over the mandatory online data-entry system for travellers entering the country.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-arrivecan-criticisms-airports-wait-times-1.6548504
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 18, 2022, 01:25:17 pm
You still haven't realized it says nothing about you not being allowed to leave the country? How could your reading comprehension be that bad?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 01:42:16 pm
You still haven't realized it says nothing about you not being allowed to leave the country? How could your reading comprehension be that bad?
Right, just coming back.  Like that's any better.  You're a tool for the government, that intrudes on people's rights.  Congratulations, Putin would be proud.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 18, 2022, 02:01:26 pm
Poor baby had to quarantine? Awww!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 18, 2022, 02:01:59 pm
You still haven't realized it says nothing about you not being allowed to leave the country? How could your reading comprehension be that bad?

IT'S LITERALLY CALLED ARRIVECAN LOL!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 02:04:16 pm
IT'S LITERALLY CALLED ARRIVECAN LOL!
And?  It literally infringes on people’s rights.  So f**king what you tool for government.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 18, 2022, 02:10:29 pm
And?

Arrivecan app for one.  Who the f**k is the PM to tell me whether or not I can leave the country. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 02:17:45 pm
Poor baby had to quarantine? Awww!
So needing it to enter the country as a Canadian citizen is somehow better.  You’re the biggest f**king tool I’ve ever seen in my life.  Anything to infringe in people’s rights huh.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 18, 2022, 02:21:52 pm
So needing it to enter the country as a Canadian citizen is somehow better.  You’re the biggest f**king tool I’ve ever seen in my life.  Anything to infringe in people’s rights huh.

It's funny that you can't tell the difference between people defending the app and people making fun of you for thinking something called ArriveCAN somehow prevents you from leaving the country when you've never even left your Cheeto and jizz-stained mattress in your basement.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 18, 2022, 02:22:37 pm
It's funny that you can't tell the difference between people defending the app and people making fun of you for thinking something called ArriveCAN somehow prevents you from leaving the country when you've never even left your Cheeto and jizz-stained mattress in your basement.
Hey now, your mom loves my mattress!  That's a low blow.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 18, 2022, 02:26:34 pm
Hey now, your mom loves my mattress!  That's a low blow.

Aren't you like 50 years old at this point?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 19, 2022, 10:43:39 pm
Shady's using the LeaveCan app leave him alone.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 19, 2022, 10:56:40 pm
Can't they just suspend the requirement of ArriveCan from like June through August every year?  Or not track Canadians at all unless there's a variant of concern going around?

I get maybe tracking foreign travelers coming into Canada but wtf is tracking Canadians going to do?  What are they going to do with these stats?  Studying stats is always interesting, but is having interesting stats protecting Canadians in a significant way?  Is there enough protection happening due to this app to be worth violating the Charter rights of Canadians for?  Canadians have a Charter right to enter or leave Canada, pre-COVID they have never been required to answer questions at the border coming into Canada beyond showing ID to prove your citizenship and questions regarding any property they are transporting into the country.  We don't live in a police state.  This government calls itself Liberal and doesn't understand liberalism.

Oh yeah that's right, they're not that kind of liberal.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 21, 2022, 04:54:13 am
We don't live in a police state.

c'mon bro! The app is evolving:

Quote from: Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino
While ArriveCan was created for COVID-19, it has technological capacity beyond that to really shrink the amount of time that is required when you're getting screened at the border.

for example, {optionally, today}, at select air border crossings (Toronto's Pearson airport, Vancouver and Montreal), one can use the app to fill out a customs declaration form before arrival.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 21, 2022, 05:00:03 am
(https://i.imgur.com/Tp5bxwv.gif)

c'mon skippy! Name the names of those corporate oligarch's you'll target and what exactly will you do? Name the names of the companies/CEO's, hey!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 21, 2022, 09:02:37 am
c'mon bro! The app is evolving:

for example, {optionally, today}, at select air border crossings (Toronto's Pearson airport, Vancouver and Montreal), one can use the app to fill out a customs declaration form before arrival.

Suck on dem Trudeau balls.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 21, 2022, 05:40:01 pm
strong is the salt with Nipples Graham! Don't be Nipples Graham...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 21, 2022, 10:11:15 pm
strong is the salt with Nipples Graham! Don't be Nipples Graham...

Wait you're saying Justin's balls are salty?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 22, 2022, 07:53:43 pm
Peepee Poopoo.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 24, 2022, 12:02:08 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/AD6cgM3.png)

c'mon skippy... pivot! LOL!

Pierre Poilievre’s dangerous dance with a Diagolon extremist (https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist)
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The name Diagolon refers to the imaginary nation MacKenzie and his followers have created, one that runs from Alaska to Florida. As the Canadian Anti-Hate Network’s Peter Smith and Mathew Kriner noted in a piece on the movement, this imaginary nation is “unencumbered by the sinister burdens of communism, moral degeneracy, and the World Economic Forum.” But that’s more than just a bad joke. As they write, the online community of pro-Diagolon livestreamers and their audience “have grown into an anti-government movement with militant accelerationist overtones.”

But the photo with MacKenzie wasn’t Poilievre’s first exposure to the Diagolon movement. On Canada Day, the Conservative leadership hopeful marched with James Topp, another Canadian Forces veteran who has appeared numerous times on MacKenzie’s podcast. That wasn’t an accident, and Poilievre and his staff must have done their due diligence on Topp before deciding to march with him. That they chose to do so in spite of his affiliation with someone like MacKenzie speaks volumes — and raises some uncomfortable questions about the Conservative movement’s persistent proximity to far-right groups.

Jean Charest tweeted over the weekend: “Hate and intolerance have no place in Canada or in the Conservative Party … it’s long past time for @PierrePoilievre to loudly and clearly tell MacKenzie, Diagolon and their supporters they are not welcome. Some votes should not be courted.”

Pierre Poilievre Ignores Calls to Disavow Far-Right Extremist Identified as a National Security Threat (https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-ignores-calls-to-disavow-far-right-extremist-identified-as-a-national-security-threat/)
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Pierre Poilievre is ignoring calls to clearly disavow a man identified by a federal counterterrorism organization as a national security threat after Poilievre shook hands with the far-right extremist at a meet-and-greet in Nova Scotia.

During a campaign event in Dartmouth on Saturday, the Conservative leadership candidate was photographed alongside Jeremy Mackenzie, a far-right influencer previously arrested for harassing Nova Scotia’s chief medical officer of health.

Mackenzie broadcasted the photo to his followers on one of his social media accounts, alleging Poilievre personally assured him during the meeting that he would be “pulling the plug” on media subsidies if he becomes prime minister.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 27, 2022, 09:12:31 am
c'mon Shady - as you stumble and flail in your (other thread) attempts to articulate your liberal use of "woke/wokies", perhaps take a 'freedom' cue from your boy skippy:

(https://i.imgur.com/JmdIEac.gif)

Poilievre says sumthin, sumthin bout the, "totalitarian and authoritarian agenda of the woke movement" is against freedom... is against the youth want for adventure, risk taking and enjoying life - wants to take away the youthful spirit of adventure! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1509335529606762497/pu/vid/720x720/Z6QeVqueFDMrGVYI.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 27, 2022, 09:55:54 am
c'mon Shady - as you stumble and flail in your (other thread) attempts to articulate your liberal use of "woke/wokies", perhaps take a 'freedom' cue from your boy skippy:

(https://i.imgur.com/JmdIEac.gif)

Poilievre says sumthin, sumthin bout the, "totalitarian and authoritarian agenda of the woke movement" is against freedom... is against the youth want for adventure, risk taking and enjoying life - wants to take away the youthful spirit of adventure! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1509335529606762497/pu/vid/720x720/Z6QeVqueFDMrGVYI.mp4?tag=12)
I’ve already outlined what the woke/alt-left entails.  Controlling language, tearing down statues, cancelling former Prime Ministers, defunding police, censorship, reverse discrimination, telling you what you can drive, what energy you can use, how much water you can have in your toilet, artificially raising the cost of gasoline, insisting that men can get pregnant, puberty blockers and surgery to young children, shutting down schools and businesses in the name of public health, forcing people to inject chemicals into their body against their will, forcing everyone to wear masks, the list goes on and on.  I hope that helps you buddy.  And I hope that explains why I can never support your empty suit of a Prime Minister, Wonder boy, as he continues to turn Canada into sh*t.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 27, 2022, 10:13:28 am
... the list goes on and on.

even as a summary statement... that's yuuuuge! In your measure of wokeness, of being a wokie, does one need to be for all/most of your listed items? But hey now, if one were for just half your listed items, would that make one a halfazzed wokie?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 28, 2022, 02:25:15 pm
Meanwhile politicians across Canada (of all party stripes) are coming forward to denounce this bullying intimidation {and verbal assault} of Ms. Freeland. Noticeably absent in that mix is Poilievre!

still no words from Poilievre; still waiting on skippy to denounce the physical intimidation and verbal assault Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland was subjected to in Grande Prairie Alberta - still waiting Poilievre!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZPGZn3X0AUHTdE?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 03:06:50 pm
I’ve already outlined what the woke/alt-left entails.  Controlling language, tearing down statues, cancelling former Prime Ministers, defunding police, censorship, reverse discrimination, telling you what you can drive, what energy you can use, how much water you can have in your toilet, artificially raising the cost of gasoline, insisting that men can get pregnant, puberty blockers and surgery to young children, shutting down schools and businesses in the name of public health, forcing people to inject chemicals into their body against their will, forcing everyone to wear masks, the list goes on and on.  I hope that helps you buddy.  And I hope that explains why I can never support your empty suit of a Prime Minister, Wonder boy, as he continues to turn Canada into sh*t.

Here we have the perfect summary of Shiddy’s political beliefs: “waaaaaahhhhhh you can’t tell me what to do!” Basically, he’s a toddler, though I’ve me toddlers who are less whiny.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 05:30:40 pm
Here we have the perfect summary of Shiddy’s political beliefs: “waaaaaahhhhhh you can’t tell me what to do!” Basically, he’s a toddler, though I’ve me toddlers who are less whiny.
Another substanceless post.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 05:33:13 pm
still no words from Poilievre; still waiting on skippy to denounce the physical intimidation and verbal assault Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland was subjected to in Grande Prairie Alberta - still waiting Poilievre!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZPGZn3X0AUHTdE?format=jpg)
I’m still waiting for Wonder boy to apologize for labelling Canadians that were against vaccine mandates as nazis, racists, fascists and white supremacists.  It really was pretty disgusting politics.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 05:55:51 pm
Another substanceless post.


Oh damn maybe I should have posted something profound like an editorial cartoon or a meme. You crybaby chucklefuck.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 07:45:56 pm

Oh damn maybe I should have posted something profound like an editorial cartoon or a meme. You crybaby chucklefuck.
Get professional help.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 08:21:47 pm
Get professional help.

I talked to my therapist and showed them your post crying about low flush toilets and wearing a mask and they’ve diagnosed you with a chronic case of being a dumb baby b!tch.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 08:31:50 pm
I talked to my therapist and showed them your post crying about low flush toilets and wearing a mask and they’ve diagnosed you with a chronic case of being a dumb baby b!tch.
Seriously, get some professional help, you’re not well.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 28, 2022, 08:42:27 pm
still no words from Poilievre; still waiting on skippy to denounce the physical intimidation and verbal assault Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland was subjected to in Grande Prairie Alberta - still waiting Poilievre!
I’m still waiting for {PM Trudeau} to apologize for labelling Canadians that were against vaccine mandates as nazis, racists, fascists and white supremacists.  It really was pretty disgusting politics.

you're a whataboutwonder! Can ya refresh the waldo recall on your statement/claim - sure you can!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 08:55:29 pm
Seriously, get some professional help, you’re not well.

Idk man I’m not the one struggling with low flush toilets, sounds like you need to eat more fibre you slob.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 08:59:21 pm
Idk man I’m not the one struggling with low flush toilets, sounds like you need to eat more fibre you slob.
I’m all good, your mom cleans my toilets.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 09:07:01 pm
you're a whataboutwonder! Can ya refresh the waldo recall on your statement/claim - sure you can!
Regardless, comrade Freeland got what she deserved.  That’s what happens when you sh*t on western Canada for 8+ years.  Actions have consequences.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 09:15:06 pm
I’m all good, your mom cleans my toilets.

Mom is dead and you’re crying about your rock hard dumps clogging your rooming house crapper, she’s better off than you.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 28, 2022, 09:18:51 pm
Regardless, comrade Freeland got what she deserved.  That’s what happens when you sh*t on western Canada for 8+ years.  Actions have consequences.
Yes, no one is surprised you consider that appropriate. People raised poorly would.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 09:30:53 pm
Regardless, comrade Freeland got what she deserved.  That’s what happens when you sh*t on western Canada for 8+ years.  Actions have consequences.

Hang on: some slobbering pig was able to walk right up and threaten the deputy PM and waddle back to his oversized pickup without anything happening to him? But I thought we were living in a commie police state, how could that happen? How is he not in a gulag? Or is it that Trudeau’s secret police decided that living in Grande Prairie was punishment enough for that divorced strip club bouncer-loooking ass dink.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 28, 2022, 09:32:24 pm
Regardless, comrade Freeland got what she deserved.  That’s what happens when you sh*t on western Canada for 8+ years.  Actions have consequences.

comrade Freeland? C'mon Shady, this is a troll-free zone! And you're fine with having a derangedBubba physically intimidate and verbally assault a much smaller bigger/better brain woman... cause you claim "she deserved it"?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 09:50:38 pm
Mom is dead and you’re crying about your rock hard dumps clogging your rooming house crapper, she’s better off than you.
Nope.  It’s your mom, boomer.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 09:53:24 pm
comrade Freeland? C'mon Shady, this is a troll-free zone! And you're fine with having a derangedBubba physically intimidate and verbally assault a much smaller bigger/better brain woman... cause you claim "she deserved it"?
I don’t know what you mean by verbally “assault”.  Words are not violence.  Regardless, it’s rich coming from you folks, especially after the Harper years.  I guess you guys have done a 180 on that kinda stuff now huh?  Oh and after the Bush years, and currently with Trump and anyone associated with his administration.  Two sets of standards with you people huh?  Fack off with your pearl clutching all of a sudden. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 09:54:52 pm
Yes, no one is surprised you consider that appropriate. People raised poorly would.
Why’s that?  You and your ilk consider everything appropriate when it comes to Trump, etc.  Fack off with your pearl clutching and crocodile tears.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 28, 2022, 10:23:58 pm
I don’t know what you mean by verbally “assault”.  Words are not violence.  Regardless, it’s rich coming from you folks, especially after the Harper years.  I guess you guys have done a 180 on that kinda stuff now huh?  Oh and after the Bush years, and currently with Trump and anyone associated with his administration.  Two sets of standards with you people huh?  Fack off with your pearl clutching all of a sudden.
Now you're pretending you're against that kind of behaviour? Make up your mind.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 10:28:16 pm
Nope.  It’s your mom, boomer.

That is incoherent, what are you blathering about dipshit.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 10:29:51 pm
Why’s that?  You and your ilk consider everything appropriate when it comes to Trump, etc.  Fack off with your pearl clutching and crocodile tears.

All you do is cry cry cry. Goddamn you’re a whiny little cumstain. That’s why you’ll always be a loser.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 28, 2022, 10:36:02 pm
All you do is cry cry cry. Goddamn you’re a whiny little cumstain. That’s why you’ll always be a loser.
Reeeeeeeeeeee!
You’re such a bitter angry person.  I hope you get the help you need.  It’s not good to go through life like that, and  you’re the only one in this forum that seems to be having these problems.  🙏🙏🙏
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 28, 2022, 11:10:55 pm
Reeeeeeeeeeee!
You’re such a bitter angry person.  I hope you get the help you need.  It’s not good to go through life like that, and  you’re the only one in this forum that seems to be having these problems.  🙏🙏🙏


You’ve been carrying around a sad about how people were mean to George W Bush for like 15 years lmao real loser stuff.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 29, 2022, 10:08:59 am

You’ve been carrying around a sad about how people were mean to George W Bush for like 15 years lmao real loser stuff.
🙏
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 29, 2022, 10:23:04 am
🙏

lol Boomer-brain doesn't know what that emoji means. Sad.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 29, 2022, 10:36:18 am
lol Boomer-brain doesn't know what that emoji means. Sad.
🙏
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 29, 2022, 10:40:29 am
🙏

You're welcome I guess?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 29, 2022, 02:41:58 pm
Yep.
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on August 29, 2022, 02:51:19 pm
We don't know how to behave in public...but whatabout public health measures during a pandemic?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on August 29, 2022, 02:57:06 pm
Yep.
(Attachment Link)

LOL that guy would absolutely call the cops if some stinky redneck in a wife beater got in his face AND if someone was honking horns outside his house day and night for two weeks.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 31, 2022, 11:34:25 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbfZ_7cXoAI-rgs?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on August 31, 2022, 11:36:05 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbfZ_7cXoAI-rgs?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Like Trudeau pushing his Russian disinformation theories, right? 😂
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on August 31, 2022, 11:38:35 am
Like Trudeau pushing his Russian disinformation theories, right? 😂

citation request - sure you can!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 01, 2022, 09:23:18 pm
finally getting to the 'good stuff'; the meaningful stuff that Canadians have been clamouring for!

(https://i.imgur.com/NHsp3Sj.gif)

I guess this aligns with Poilievre's earlier statement, (from the Jordan Peterson podcast), that his popularity is as a result of him using simple Anglo-Saxon words... "plain language", hey!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 02, 2022, 05:18:20 am
finally getting to the 'good stuff'; the meaningful stuff that Canadians have been clamouring for!

(https://i.imgur.com/NHsp3Sj.gif)

I guess this aligns with Poilievre's earlier statement, (from the Jordan Peterson podcast), that his popularity is as a result of him using simple Anglo-Saxon words... "plain language", hey!

This is a dumb idea.  Totally superficial change.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 02, 2022, 10:47:19 am
Peepee is friggin retarded if he thinks Canadians care about his fake populist jargon law.

Now where's that woke pu$$y retard cybercoma to tell me it's offensive to call retarded people retarded.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 02, 2022, 10:53:35 am
This is a dumb idea.  Totally superficial change.
If his aim is to make bureaucracy more efficient, I’m all for it.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 02, 2022, 11:39:28 am
This is a dumb idea.  Totally superficial change.

Why the f*ck would we need an act of Parliament for this?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 02, 2022, 12:31:53 pm
Why the f*ck would we need an act of Parliament for this?

Because PooPoo is a man of the people see.  Saving us from the Ottawa elites, see.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 02, 2022, 12:34:00 pm
Because PooPoo is a man of the people see.  Saving us from the Ottawa elites, see.

Setting around the kitchen table with Paw Paw where talk of the harvest has been replaced by the incomprehensibility of internal government policy documents.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 02, 2022, 01:04:32 pm
Why the f*ck would we need an act of Parliament for this?

There are already government guidelines for public servants to use plain language. 

I want to know what PP thinks the penalty should be for a civil servant who uses the wrong words.  A fine?  Jail?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 02, 2022, 02:12:50 pm
There are already government guidelines for public servants to use plain language. 


Yup. I literally wrote one of those in one of my former gigs. Every government or quasi government job I've worked has mandated plain language for public-facing documents and products.

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I want to know what PP thinks the penalty should be for a civil servant who uses the wrong words.  A fine?  Jail?

You kinda get the feeling he's telling on himself here. "I'm too dumb to understand the material I'm given."
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 02, 2022, 08:30:36 pm
healthy crop, hey skippy?

(https://i.imgur.com/QmGX2p8.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 10, 2022, 12:35:49 pm
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.6528394.1659448995!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/pc-leadership-candidates-composite.jpg)

election results (first & probably only ballot) today @19:30 Eastern (Patrick Brown's name is still on the ballot... cause the CPC Party shenanigans in 'disqualifying' Brown, apparently, didn't allow enough time for reprinting ballots).

given the expected skippy win, the predictable move to show party unity just ain't gonna happen... how can it? How can moderates Charest/Aitchison back a Poilievre led CPC party?

supposed membership numbers: 678,702 members deemed eligible to vote;  437,854 ballots received by the Tuesday deadline => 65% turnout... where the only engagement effort required was to mail back a ballot!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on September 10, 2022, 07:26:48 pm
Looks like a Trudeau is sticking around.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 10, 2022, 09:00:06 pm
Good news for all Canadians that want to see Canada lifted out from under the boot of a woke authoritarian corrupt plutocrat. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on September 10, 2022, 09:07:56 pm
Looks like a Trudeau is sticking around.

Sad but I think so. The good news is we probably won't see a majority government anytime soon.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 10, 2022, 09:15:23 pm
Good news for all Canadians that want to see Canada lifted out from under the boot of a woke authoritarian corrupt plutocrat.

Was Trudeau your teacher because you are a real drama queen.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 10, 2022, 10:44:23 pm
Geez, PeePee really stomped Charest, 68% for PP and only 16% for Charest.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 03:16:51 am
Good news for all Canadians that want to see Canada lifted out from under the boot of a woke authoritarian corrupt plutocrat.

"plutocrat"? Geezaz Shady, the waldo reads that PM Trudeau & wannabePM Poilievre have roughly the same net worth - go figure, hey! As for authoritarian, are you ignoring most of what skippy promised to do just to get himself elected as CPC leader... surely you're not saying Poilievre didn't mean what he said and that he'll just pivot towards the centre like every CPC leader does after he's finished with the gullible rubes in the CPC base? Surely not, hey Shady?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 11, 2022, 11:50:01 am
Journalist Justin Ling has an opinion:

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1568765916065955842

"Trudeau, by the way, is going to go scorched earth against Poilievre. It will not be a campaign to govern, but a campaign to stop Poilievre from doing so.

This next election is going to be miserable. Brutal, democracy-harming, miserable."

He seems to think Poilievre is going to go full rightwing, full Trump and try to win with the crazies who would love him.  I don't know if that's a great idea, as it depends on people being sick of the "They're Hitler" strategy. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 11, 2022, 12:26:49 pm
Journalist Justin Ling has an opinion:

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1568765916065955842

"Trudeau, by the way, is going to go scorched earth against Poilievre. It will not be a campaign to govern, but a campaign to stop Poilievre from doing so.

This next election is going to be miserable. Brutal, democracy-harming, miserable."

He seems to think Poilievre is going to go full rightwing, full Trump and try to win with the crazies who would love him.  I don't know if that's a great idea, as it depends on people being sick of the "They're Hitler" strategy.

lmao:

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Pierre Poilievre is not a white supremacist. He's not an anti-vaxxer. He's not an extremist.

But
, up to a point, he's willing to use them to win in a brutal election. (I think he genuinely believes that giving them an outlet is a constructive thing. Which is a debatable point.)

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 11, 2022, 12:59:43 pm
Not much to laugh at IMO... 🤔
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 11, 2022, 06:42:33 pm
If O'Toole couldn't beat Trudeau, PP isn't going to, unless Trudeau does something very scandalous.  It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 11:08:39 pm
so... the waldo has had a cursory look through a transcript of Poilievre's 'victory' speech and didn't find any mention of crypto/bitcoin, of firing the BoC Governor, of the trucker convoy, of the World Economic Forum... I guess there must have been a strict time limit allotted to the speech and all that stuff just didn't make the cut! Go figure, hey!

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1ZyIjPFOFis/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 11:19:56 pm
waldo perspective... er... reality: media is losing it's fricken collective mind fawning over skippy's huuuuge internal party win! Those CPC members who voted for Poilievre represent about 5% of Conservative voters... represent about 1% of eligible voters. Yeesh!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 11, 2022, 11:22:49 pm
we like Poilievre cause he's a straight-shooter! Oh really!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcaYs97XkAYxjXm?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 12, 2022, 05:17:50 am
Wowee...

When did he say THAT?!?

Yesterday I hope.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on September 12, 2022, 08:29:12 am
If O'Toole couldn't beat Trudeau, PP isn't going to, unless Trudeau does something very scandalous.  It's as simple as that.

What like show up in Black Face multiple times? Trudeau is not that popular anymore. Many Canadians want a reasonable alternative to him.

I think the Liberals need to quit trying to tar and feather him as a racist. He's not racist. He's in an interracial marriage.

He's not my cup of tea, but let's see what he's go to say. We all know you have to move to the far right to win leadership, I suspect he'll move to the centre. He'll have to.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 12, 2022, 09:13:54 am

1. I think the Liberals need to quit trying to tar and feather him as a racist. He's not racist. He's in an interracial marriage.

2, I suspect he'll move to the centre. He'll have to.

1. I don't think they are using that angle.  There's plenty of other things to talk about.  Maybe the First Nations comment though...
2. We'll be watching to see.  Speech was pallid...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 09:21:57 am
Wowee...

When did he say THAT?!?

Yesterday I hope.

He said that back in 2008 right before Harper was to apologize for the residential schools, so you can tell his sense of timing is impeccable.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 09:25:41 am
What like show up in Black Face multiple times? Trudeau is not that popular anymore. Many Canadians want a reasonable alternative to him.

I think the Liberals need to quit trying to tar and feather him as a racist. He's not racist. He's in an interracial marriage.


People can harbour broadly racist sentiments while carving out exceptions in their personal lives, happens all the time.

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He's not my cup of tea, but let's see what he's go to say. We all know you have to move to the far right to win leadership, I suspect he'll move to the centre. He'll have to.

We saw what happened to O'Toole when he tried to pull that trick.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on September 12, 2022, 09:31:01 am
We saw what happened to O'Toole when he tried to pull that trick.

JT did not win that election by much.

He was lucky that Vaccines and COVID were a potent wedge issue. I doubt that will track for the next election.

I wouldn't put it past JT to give PP the Stockwell Day treatment and try to call a snap election. The NDP may not be down, they're in defacto government right now.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 10:11:36 am
JT did not win that election by much.

He was lucky that Vaccines and COVID was a potent wedge issue. I doubt that will track for the next election.

I wouldn't put it past JT to give PP the Stockwell Day treatment and try to call a snap election. The NDP may not be down, they're in defacto government right now.

Yeah the margins are tight, that's the issue. JT won the election in part because O'Toole was seen as going squishy by the hard right elements in the party. If PP tries to moderate his stances, he runs the same risk of alienating the people who carried him to power. I guess it's a question of whether or not PP is high on his own supply and actually thinks the electorate is as extreme as his base.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Boges on September 12, 2022, 10:21:59 am
Yeah the margins are tight, that's the issue. JT won the election in part because O'Toole was seen as going squishy by the hard right elements in the party. If PP tries to moderate his stances, he runs the same risk of alienating the people who carried him to power. I guess it's a question of whether or not PP is high on his own supply and actually thinks the electorate is as extreme as his base.

You can tell by his early sentiments that he'll lean into the Populist stuff. Worked for Trump and has worked for DoFo in areas where he'll need.

We'll see.

With all the baggage JT has overcome, I doubt dwelling on BitCoin and the Bank of Canada will make much hay in the long run.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 10:36:29 am
You can tell by his early sentiments that he'll lean into the Populist stuff. Worked for Trump and has worked for DoFo in areas where he'll need.

We'll see.

With all the baggage JT has overcome, I doubt dwelling on BitCoin and the Bank of Canada will make much hay in the long run.

What's funny is for such a supposed populist, very little of his platform is actually aimed at helping the middle/working classes. A Plain Language Law? Stopping private companies from importing miniscule amounts of foreign oil? Jets at Billy Bishop? Regulating speech in colleges/universities? Folderol about the World Economic Forum? Who on earth gives a sh!t about any of that stuff? Doug Ford would never.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 12, 2022, 03:15:46 pm
Statement from Mark Hancock, National President of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE), on Pierre Poilievre winning the Conservative Party leadership:

(https://cupe.ca/sites/default/files/styles/cupe_embedded_image__fb_dimensions_/public/scheer-poilievre.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ebs0v0m.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 12, 2022, 03:21:55 pm
Statement from Mark Hancock, National President of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE), on Pierre Poilievre winning the Conservative Party leadership:

(https://cupe.ca/sites/default/files/styles/cupe_embedded_image__fb_dimensions_/public/scheer-poilievre.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ebs0v0m.gif)
Another reason why CUPE has no credibility.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 12, 2022, 04:14:39 pm
Sounds like something a far-right extremist conspiracy theorist would say.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 04:27:10 pm
Sounds like something a far-right extremist conspiracy theorist would say.

Hit dogs holler.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 12, 2022, 06:46:04 pm
Sounds like something a far-right extremist conspiracy theorist would say.
Not really.  I’m just looking at the facts.  CUPE thinks he’s by bad for “working families”.  But they’re silent on extreme inflation.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  They’re silent on carbon taxes and phony environmental policies that make energy much more expensive.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  They’re silent on mass unlimited immigration, which makes everything more expensive, particularly rent and housing.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  Nah.  They just don’t like not having a Prime Minister that spends his time shovelling troughs full of money to public sector unions.  All at the expense of working people through higher fees and higher taxes.  I can’t wait to get a responsible adult in Ottawa again, who’s not trying to be Santa Claus.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 12, 2022, 09:45:05 pm
Not really.  I’m just looking at the facts.  CUPE thinks he’s by bad for “working families”.  But they’re silent on extreme inflation.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  They’re silent on carbon taxes and phony environmental policies that make energy much more expensive.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  They’re silent on mass unlimited immigration, which makes everything more expensive, particularly rent and housing.  Do they think that’s good for working people?  Nah.  They just don’t like not having a Prime Minister that spends his time shovelling troughs full of money to public sector unions.  All at the expense of working people through higher fees and higher taxes.  I can’t wait to get a responsible adult in Ottawa again, who’s not trying to be Santa Claus.

Important to note here that when Shiddy says "CUPE is silent on X" he means "CUPE doesn't agree with me on X" which is not the same thing. CUPE has positions on all these issues, they just don't conform to those of the dumbest man on the internet, which is probably a stroke in their favour. That being said, there's no doubt their opposition to PeePee Poo Poo is self-serving, but that doesn't mean they are wrong; we know PP's objective is, like all conservatives, to facilitate the upward transfer of wealth and the destruction of public services.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 12, 2022, 09:52:38 pm
Does anyone give a crap about covid anymore?

anymore... or ever? C'mon Shady, do you follow your boy Poilievre's position that Conservatives wouldn't have provided COVID benefits to individuals, to businesses... cause, "we're Conservatives, we don't believe in that (in big fat government programs) (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1508420475235541001/pu/vid/720x730/FBt1cedG4LcKNDie.mp4?tag=12)". So Shady, alternatively, just what would you have wanted done to help Canadians & Canadian businesses work through... and in some cases quite literally survive/keep afloat through the pandemic?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 02:51:39 am
Another reason why CUPE has no credibility.

you want more? More? No problemo!

Pierre Poilievre Claims He’s a Friend of the ‘Working Class’. He’s Spent Years Attacking Canadian Workers. (https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-claims-hes-a-friend-of-the-working-class-hes-spent-years-attacking-canadian-workers/)

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Newly elected Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s recent rhetoric pandering to workers contradicts his long track record of attacking unions and dividing workers, experts say.

Poilievre has spent much of his leadership campaign paying lip service to Canadian workers and claiming, without evidence, that workers support him.
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Poilievre aggressively fought card-check legislation that would make it easier for workers to unionize in favour of a two-step process that gives employers more time to interfere in the union drive.
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Under Stephen Harper’s government, Poilievre was one of the loudest supporters of the anti-union Bill C-377, a likely unconstitutional piece of legislation that tried to force Canadian labour unions to disclose all of their internal finances while big corporations would not have been subjected to the same rules.

Poilievre is also a major proponent of bringing US Right-to-Work laws to Canada. Right-to-Work laws weaken the labour movement by making it more difficult for unions to collect membership dues which pay for the collective bargaining process. Wages and benefits are lower on average in states with Right-to-Work laws.
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Poilievre also used xenophobic rhetoric arguing that “foreign” migrant workers were taking Canadian workers’ jobs and driving down wages.

Poilievre was Stephen Harper’s Employment Minister while thousands of migrant workers had their work permits expire in 2015 which forced them to leave the country or remain as undocumented workers.

“That’s why they’re called temporary foreign workers,” Poilievre said about the looming deportations in 2015.
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Poilievre defended his management of the temporary foreign worker program and the deportations: “Broadly speaking, we made the right decision with the program, and we’re going to continue.”

(https://i.imgur.com/ELpwy8f.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 08:29:57 pm
Choose people for key positions based in whole or in part on their membership in a marginalized community.

the marginalized community of those who choose to wear their hair dressed in a pompadour - the waldo asks the simple question: "who did/does it better"?

(https://i.imgur.com/cOb24j7.jpeg)

hey Shady, you have repeat posts extolling the party prominence of Lantsman - has she ever sponsored/co-sponsored a bill... any bill? Oh wait, that's why Poilievre chose her as "coDeputy Leader"... cause she matches his dismal lack of bill sponsorship - birds of a feather, hey!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 08:41:17 pm
whaaa! Such a weak bench to choose from... and we now see the outcome of all that azzkissing by Scheer! Hey now waldo, does that House Leader position for Scheer come with a mini-van and paid school tuition for his brood?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fci5FVPaUAIxO9q?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 13, 2022, 11:48:23 pm
all through the leadership campaign Poilievre refused to be interviewed by anyone from the so-called mainstream media... but somehow managed to find time to be a part of a Jordon Peterson podcast!

so today skippy held a presser that was initially intended as a 'no questions' statement from Poilievre... somewhere in the mix that shifted to where Poilievre's handlers relented to allow 2... and only 2 questions.

but the ever lurking drama had Global's David Akin taking heat from Poilievre who chose to label him a "Liberal heckler"... and more broadly referred to the gathered journalists as the, "Liberal heckling gathering" - all on display in the short video as follows. Of course Akin actually has a long history of Conservative bias.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6n0lh5fTZk

clearly too much pressure for skippy... and it becomes clearer as to why Poilievre was kept away from the media during the leadership campaign - not that there was ever any doubt why the thin-skinned, brash and obnoxious Poilievre was so isolated from the media! But wait now - never let a victim-hood fundraising opportunity slide on by; as follows, the fundraising email that went out soon after!

(https://i.imgur.com/BCOwNT4.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 14, 2022, 09:16:24 am
the marginalized community of those who choose to wear their hair dressed in a pompadour - the waldo asks the simple question: "who did/does it better"?
 

Cons get the stand-up hair vote...

Somebody tell Harper the "dry look" is dead.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 14, 2022, 12:26:45 pm
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 14, 2022, 04:42:55 pm
all through the leadership campaign Poilievre refused to be interviewed by anyone from the so-called mainstream media... but somehow managed to find time to be a part of a Jordon Peterson podcast!

so today skippy held a presser that was initially intended as a 'no questions' statement from Poilievre... somewhere in the mix that shifted to where Poilievre's handlers relented to allow 2... and only 2 questions.

and watch Poilievre after he takes those 2 questions - runAway, runAway from tough questions (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1569776523284201472/pu/vid/1274x720/4QJR4wg3Pa1T9cOp.mp4?tag=12)! Meanwhile contrast that with PM Trudeau at the recent days 'Liberal caucus retreat' at St. Andrews, NB... where PM Trudeau took and answered 11 questions from journalists over an ~30 minute period!

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on September 15, 2022, 12:57:26 am
Charest was favoured amongst all Canadians while Poilievre was favoured amongst conservatives. It’s unfathomable to me why the party chose him.

I mean I get that he represents their ideals but when he doesn’t resonate with the rest of the country why not try to get the fascist dictator <eye roll> out of office?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 15, 2022, 05:15:55 am
He's planning to delete benefits and institutions that help Canadians, after a fluffy campaign talking about freedom and non specific feel-good slang...

Seems like it anyway.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 10:30:12 am
Charest was favoured amongst all Canadians while Poilievre was favoured amongst conservatives. It’s unfathomable to me why the party chose him.

I mean I get that he represents their ideals but when he doesn’t resonate with the rest of the country why not try to get the fascist dictator <eye roll> out of office?
Charest is as about as charismatic as a rock, as exciting as a re-run of That 70’s Show, and is desperately in need of retiring.  The only reason he was “favoured” by Canadians is because of name recognition as he’s been in politics for some 50 years.  He’s Canada’s version of Joe Biden.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 10:30:49 am
He's planning to delete benefits and institutions that help Canadians, after a fluffy campaign talking about freedom and non specific feel-good slang...

Seems like it anyway.
Complete nonsense.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 15, 2022, 10:46:52 am
Complete nonsense.

Really ?  If I come up with one example will you concur ?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 11:15:53 am
Charest was favoured amongst all Canadians while Poilievre was favoured amongst conservatives. It’s unfathomable to me why the party chose him.

I mean I get that he represents their ideals but when he doesn’t resonate with the rest of the country why not try to get the fascist dictator <eye roll> out of office?

They don't care about the rest of the country or having a big tent, no matter how many woke leadership appointments PP makes. The purpose of the modern conservative movement is to gin up outrage among a fringe of lunatics and take their money.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 15, 2022, 11:22:01 am
He's planning to delete benefits and institutions that help Canadians, after a fluffy campaign talking about freedom and non specific feel-good slang...

Seems like it anyway.

Oh you mean Harper's hidden agenda that never happened.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 15, 2022, 11:30:42 am
They don't care about the rest of the country or having a big tent, no matter how many woke leadership appointments PP makes. The purpose of the modern conservative movement is to gin up outrage among a fringe of lunatics and take their money.

The point of the conservative movement is to dig a giant hole in the ground in order to find Noah's Ark and then start sh!tting in order to fill the hole they dug for themselves so they can get out of it.

The point of the progressive movement is for white yuppies to kill themselves because of their guilt and self-hatred and to help non-white people assist them (who are more than willing because they hate white people).
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 11:36:24 am
Oh you mean Harper's hidden agenda that never happened.

Harper absolutely slashed spending on healthcare, social and cultural programs and handed tax cuts to the wealthiest Canadians, where were you living?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 12:19:30 pm
Harper absolutely slashed spending on healthcare, social and cultural programs and handed tax cuts to the wealthiest Canadians, where were you living?
More nonsense and drivel. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 15, 2022, 12:22:45 pm
Oh you mean Harper's hidden agenda that never happened.

No, it's open. 

Firing the governor of the Bank of Canada ... isn't that something that raises your eyebrows at least ?

How about defunding the CBC ?

Did Harper say he was going to do that on his way up ?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 12:25:47 pm
Really ?  If I come up with one example will you concur ?
Which programs and institutions does he want to “delete”.  Is there a delete button for that?  Regardless, just because a government program exists, doesn’t mean it has eternal life, and can never be reformed or even ended.  And the notion that if anyone is helped by something it can never be touched is childish. We have limited resources, with a debt that has now ballooned thanks to the current PM.  Now that interest rates are rising, the cost of financing that debt is going to get very expensive, cutting into resources that could’ve been used for other things.  But thanks to our woke progressive short sighted PM, we’ve dug ourselves quite a hole, and difficult decisions will have to be made.  Similar to Chrétien and Martin in the late 1990s.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 12:27:45 pm
No, it's open. 

Firing the governor of the Bank of Canada ... isn't that something that raises your eyebrows at least ?

How about defunding the CBC ?

Did Harper say he was going to do that on his way up ?
The CBC provides a service that’s already provided by multiple companies in the private sector.  It serves no purpose other than to exist.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 15, 2022, 01:30:33 pm
The CBC provides a service that’s already provided by multiple companies in the private sector.  It serves no purpose other than to exist.

Ok... well then this means you retract your objection to my point ?  Since you agree with one example and didn't address the second ?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 15, 2022, 01:43:43 pm
Harper absolutely slashed spending on healthcare, social and cultural programs and handed tax cuts to the wealthiest Canadians, where were you living?

Oh you mean when he cut the GST by 2%?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 15, 2022, 01:49:42 pm
No, it's open. 

Firing the governor of the Bank of Canada ... isn't that something that raises your eyebrows at least ?

How about defunding the CBC ?

Did Harper say he was going to do that on his way up ?

Yes PP is an idiot for saying he's going to fire the BoC head.  Not sure how that is deleting institutions or benefits.

CBC news should be reformed to be politically neutral, it should be as dry as the Canadian Press. The other CBC stuff is more or less fine and Cancon is good for the country.

So what benefits is he going to eliminate?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 15, 2022, 02:03:41 pm
Yes PP is an idiot for saying he's going to fire the BoC head.  Not sure how that is deleting institutions or benefits.

CBC news should be reformed to be politically neutral, it should be as dry as the Canadian Press. The other CBC stuff is more or less fine and Cancon is good for the country.

So what benefits is he going to eliminate?

I think removing the BoC head fundamentally changes it as an institution.  And yes 'defunding the CBC' is deleting it.

End of point.

Whether or not CBC should be reformed (or even defunded) is beside the point.  Poilievre is campaigning as a wrecking ball. 

As for benefits, in terms of EI, transfer payments etc., I concur that he hasn't said.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 02:06:21 pm
Oh you mean when he cut the GST by 2%?

No I mean when he slashed spending on healthcare, social and cultural programs and handed tax cuts to the wealthiest Canadians.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on September 15, 2022, 03:26:02 pm
Charest is as about as charismatic as a rock, as exciting as a re-run of That 70’s Show, and is desperately in need of retiring.  The only reason he was “favoured” by Canadians is because of name recognition as he’s been in politics for some 50 years.  He’s Canada’s version of Joe Biden.

Joe Biden won, kinda proves my point.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 04:26:06 pm
Minister of Inflation! 😂😂😂

https://youtu.be/sjB4h2k36po
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 04:28:05 pm
Joe Biden won, kinda proves my point.
Not really.  Poilievre isn’t Trump.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: BC_cheque on September 15, 2022, 04:28:44 pm
Not really.  Poilievre isn’t Trump.

Oh yes he is.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 04:42:21 pm
Oh yes he is.
You lose all credibility if you compare him or anyone else in Canada to Trump.  Sorry, he’s a smart, educated, well spoken, traditional conservative/libertarian.  I know you don’t like him, and you don’t have to.  But to say he’s Trump is completely disingenuous, and intellectually dishonest.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 15, 2022, 04:49:40 pm
Oh yes he is.

He's not Trump in that he doesn't have the celebrity, the chutzpah or any actual charisma, but he is singing from the same hymnbook.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 05:05:54 pm
He's not Trump in that he doesn't have the celebrity, the chutzpah or any actual charisma, but he is singing from the same hymnbook.
I heard he drinks coffee too, just like Trump!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 15, 2022, 05:12:06 pm
whaaa! Down memory lane with Pierre Poutine... good start, hey PeePee!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcuRiD_XEAQnN3a?format=jpg)

Quebec MP who left Conservatives says his office is being swamped by harassing callers (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/alain-rayes-harassment-conservative-party-of-canada-1.6583056)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 15, 2022, 05:14:42 pm
He's not Trump in that he doesn't have the celebrity, the chutzpah or any actual charisma, but he is singing from the same hymnbook.

(https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/09/08/PoilievreTrumpCartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 05:14:49 pm
whaaa! Down memory lane with Pierre Poutine... good start, hey PeePee!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcuRiD_XEAQnN3a?format=jpg)

Quebec MP who left Conservatives says his office is being swamped by harassing callers (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/alain-rayes-harassment-conservative-party-of-canada-1.6583056)
Robo calls from 11 years ago, with no resolution! 😂
You know there’s been a few elections since then, right?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 05:16:25 pm
(https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/09/08/PoilievreTrumpCartoon.jpg)
Oh well, if a cartoon says so, without any actual substance behind it, well, I guess you got me! 😂
I know Trump was very concerned with inflation.  Not.  I know Trump was very concerned with government spending.  Not.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 05:18:10 pm
You guys are making the same mistake the opposition in Ontario made.  Trying to paint Doug Ford as Donald Trump.  That worked so well with voters that he’s won back to back majority governments!  Keep up the good work! 🤣
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 15, 2022, 05:20:40 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLHSPCsZ2v_sWE0wczTtrcXcUSpzHVqCNI58JLVCNa742fjJ1_I2m3PosaQV_1JELGojw&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 15, 2022, 05:23:36 pm
hey Shady, why is skippy so hangry?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcqtmYragAI24uZ?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 15, 2022, 05:33:07 pm
If he’s Trump, than I think we need to explore the possibility of wonder boy being Castro! 😂

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 16, 2022, 06:56:37 am
when Poilievre tells you who he is... believe him!

(https://i.imgur.com/6hFfgOI.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 16, 2022, 01:25:27 pm
when Poilievre tells you who he is... believe him!


If the Minister of Veterans Affairs (ass. Min. of Defence), Lawrence MacAulay, can change his mind and be a Liberal cabinet member, can’t PP change his mind too?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_38th_Canadian_Parliament_and_same-sex_marriage
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 16, 2022, 01:45:34 pm
Here let me help you waldo.

Pierre Poioilievrevrere once voted to holocaust all Jews and enslave black Canadians.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 16, 2022, 02:36:18 pm
Here let me help you waldo.

Pierre Poioilievrevrere once voted to holocaust all Jews and enslave black Canadians.

This sounds like you think PP voting against same-sex marriage never happened.  I think it’s fair to say that many politicians’ minds have changed since then.  Liberal and Conservative.  If there’s some sort of purity test Walduh wants to apply, then he should probably cheerlead for the NDP. 

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 17, 2022, 04:11:47 am
If the Minister of Veterans Affairs (ass. Min. of Defence), Lawrence MacAulay, can change his mind and be a Liberal cabinet member, can’t PP change his mind too?

sure, sure squigidiot! Try again, try harder!

MacAulay was accepting to civil unions; given his age/generation and deep religious conviction, actual marriage was a step too far. Your mind-changing claim about Poilievre is a freakin' joke man - skippy made a big to-do about reversing his positions on ssm and pro-life... both done coincidentally at the same (in French) presser. But hey, the same way that doubts exist on the sincerity of Poilievre's shifted position of convenience on ssm, thinking persons also have doubts about Poilievre's "shift of political expediency" in regards abortion... like say the 'Abortion Rights Coalition' that continues to list Poilievre as anti-choice!

try again, try harder, hey squigidiot
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 17, 2022, 04:14:26 am
oh my! Poilievre can't run from his past!

(https://i.imgur.com/Cpwd8SZ.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 17, 2022, 04:38:25 am
a Tombe/Chen pre-print... puts a real damper on Poilievre's nauseating prattle about "JustinFlation"!

(https://i.imgur.com/whG3YjU.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2022, 10:56:00 am
(https://i.imgur.com/esScBbU.jpg)

c'mon Shady - support your boy PP and highlight all his legislative accomplishments... sure you can! And simply being Harper's attackDoggy isn't an actual accomplishment, yes?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2022, 11:00:16 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FckZ4tdagAAKXmq?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2022, 11:07:52 am
all through the leadership campaign Poilievre refused to be interviewed by anyone from the so-called mainstream media... but somehow managed to find time to be a part of a Jordon Peterson podcast!

so today skippy held a presser that was initially intended as a 'no questions' statement from Poilievre... somewhere in the mix that shifted to where Poilievre's handlers relented to allow 2... and only 2 questions.

but the ever lurking drama had Global's David Akin taking heat from Poilievre who chose to label him a "Liberal heckler"... and more broadly referred to the gathered journalists as the, "Liberal heckling gathering" - all on display in the short video as follows. Of course Akin actually has a long history of Conservative bias.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6n0lh5fTZk

Who the hell calls a press conference, then tells reporters they can’t ask questions?

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Who the hell calls a press conference, then tells reporters they can’t ask questions?

It’s right in the words: P-R-E-S-S conference.

Dear politicians, if you want to reach the public without the media, you’re free to open a Facebook page or post more of your spicy attack ads to YouTube. Maybe suck up a few million taxpayers' dollars to fund a PR “war room” like Jason Kenney and if your voters keep coming back, more power to you. You can even launch your own news site like Doug Ford did.

However, there are still citizens in this democracy who invest their time and money to support a free press. They want journalists to represent them, to seek truth and demand accountability.

That’s right, if you want access to media platforms, public accountability is the price of entry.

You don’t get to cheat citizens in a democracy by holding a “press conference” where you muzzle the press and expect us to play along.

Mr. Poilievre, welcome to the first day of leadership class.

Here is lesson 101: You are not the free press’ gatekeeper.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2022, 11:16:12 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxzmJ2qLMg8&t=287s

h/t Martin Lukacs - The Breach

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Pierre Poilievre bills himself a man of the people, who’s taking on the powerful, standing up for the working class, with a penchant for speaking like a popular rebellion leader… from 14th century England.

Poilievre is tapping into anger at inequality and the soaring cost of living while pointing his finger at the ruling class that is responsible.

There’s just one hitch: Pierre Poilievre has spent his entire political career serving the very elites he vilifies.

So what explains his approach? It’s called fake populism: when politicians ride ordinary people’s outrage against the establishment into office, then hand the keys to the one percent.
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Elected at 24 years old, he emerged within Stephen Harper’s government as the leading enemy of workers’ basic rights.

He helped push legislation to make it more difficult for workers to unionize, to collectively negotiate, and to go on strike—the best tool they have against elites and employers.

When migrant workers brought in by the government to work on Canada’s farms and in seniors homes faced deportation, Poilievre’s response exhibited his special brand of concern for the common toiler: “That’s why they’re called temporary foreign workers.”

Poilievre has such a distaste for Canada’s universal social programs that he has suggested adopting economist Milton Friedman’s proposal to replace “the entire welfare state” with “a tiny survival stipend for all low-income people.” This would involve “eliminating all other programs, including housing, drug plans, child care and the bureaucrats who administer it all.”

Massive tax cuts for the rich, suppressing workers rights, and gutting social programs that ordinary Canadians depend on — it’s not exactly the platform of a people’s champion.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 18, 2022, 12:47:53 pm

Poilievre has such a distaste for Canada’s universal social programs that he has suggested adopting economist Milton Friedman’s proposal to replace “the entire welfare state” with “a tiny survival stipend for all low-income people.” This would involve “eliminating all other programs, including housing, drug plans, child care and the bureaucrats who administer it all.”


Wait... isn't that UIB ?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 18, 2022, 01:15:38 pm

Poilievre has such a distaste for Canada’s universal social programs that he has suggested adopting economist Milton Friedman’s proposal to replace “the entire welfare state” with “a tiny survival stipend for all low-income people.” This would involve “eliminating all other programs, including housing, drug plans, child care and the bureaucrats who administer it all.”


Wait... isn't that UIB ?

No, closer to UBI.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 18, 2022, 01:19:46 pm
Waldo you ever post arguments anymore, or just repost twitter memes and youtube videos?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 18, 2022, 02:08:05 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WcgdnTh.gif)(https://i.imgur.com/GRa2siK.gif)

skippy has shown a knack for fomenting anger but not for proposing sensible economic solutions

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TorStar - Pierre Poilievre cruised to victory as federal Conservative leader. His campaign was powered by a core of party members who are mad as hell, about pretty much everything, from COVID rules to climate policies to the mass media.

While that negative energy handily won him the leadership, Poilievre now faces the same quandary as his unsuccessful predecessors: the narratives that make you popular with party members don’t usually resonate with the broader electorate.

His economic platform will decisively shape his future fortunes. Poilievre portrays himself as a fighter for “freedom,” promising to liberate Canadians from regulations and taxes. But his economic program is not consistent with that overarching narrative. In fact, it’s hard to pin down his economics anywhere on the conventional political spectrum. Some of his proposals are libertarian: smaller government, lower taxes. But others are highly interventionist — imposing new leaders at the Bank of Canada, banning imports from certain countries, intruding into the governance of cities and universities.
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This hodgepodge of policies is neither right-wing nor left-wing. Poilievre promises to ban so many things — imports of Middle East oil, attendance at world economic conferences, university policies, and more — he sounds authoritarian as often as libertarian. The only consistent thread in his economic platform is a desire to foment anger over any convenient issue … and direct it at federal institutions.

That’s an effective way to get yourself elected Conservative leader. But it’s a very dangerous way to run an economy.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 19, 2022, 09:50:37 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdBJkcEXoAA3eYM?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 19, 2022, 02:41:17 pm
oh my - Canada @29% positive impression of skippy! Is that a lot... that's not a lot, right? Right Shady?

(https://i.imgur.com/cV88372.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on September 19, 2022, 11:17:15 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdBJkcEXoAA3eYM?format=jpg)

Not sure I get the point of the cartoon. Is the puppy supposed to represent David Akin or Canadian media in general?


oh my - Canada @29% positive impression of skippy! Is that a lot... that's not a lot, right? Right Shady?

(https://i.imgur.com/cV88372.jpg)

Genuine question: how are the rest of the leaders polling these days?  It has been a while since I saw polling about the party leaders, but my recollection is that only Singh does well in "net favorable" numbers in these sorts of thing.

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 20, 2022, 08:46:55 am
I believe a Liberal minority is projected...>


https://338canada.com/sim.htm
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 20, 2022, 11:41:38 am
oh c'mon! Poilievre's 'working man' schtick is just so lame, just so phony, just so disingenuous...

(https://i.imgur.com/6iUWU6F.gif)

Pierre Poilievre Claims He’s a Friend of the ‘Working Class’. He’s Spent Years Attacking Canadian Workers. (https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-claims-hes-a-friend-of-the-working-class-hes-spent-years-attacking-canadian-workers/)

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Newly elected Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s recent rhetoric pandering to workers contradicts his long track record of attacking unions and dividing workers, experts say.

Poilievre has spent much of his leadership campaign paying lip service to Canadian workers and claiming, without evidence, that workers support him.
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Poilievre aggressively fought card-check legislation that would make it easier for workers to unionize in favour of a two-step process that gives employers more time to interfere in the union drive.
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Under Stephen Harper’s government, Poilievre was one of the loudest supporters of the anti-union Bill C-377, a likely unconstitutional piece of legislation that tried to force Canadian labour unions to disclose all of their internal finances while big corporations would not have been subjected to the same rules.

Poilievre is also a major proponent of bringing US Right-to-Work laws to Canada. Right-to-Work laws weaken the labour movement by making it more difficult for unions to collect membership dues which pay for the collective bargaining process. Wages and benefits are lower on average in states with Right-to-Work laws.
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Poilievre also used xenophobic rhetoric arguing that “foreign” migrant workers were taking Canadian workers’ jobs and driving down wages.

Poilievre was Stephen Harper’s Employment Minister while thousands of migrant workers had their work permits expire in 2015 which forced them to leave the country or remain as undocumented workers.

“That’s why they’re called temporary foreign workers,” Poilievre said about the looming deportations in 2015.
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Poilievre defended his management of the temporary foreign worker program and the deportations: “Broadly speaking, we made the right decision with the program, and we’re going to continue.”

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 20, 2022, 01:43:38 pm
Theory: Harper was a robot.

PP is also, but a new model.  T-1000.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 21, 2022, 06:23:22 pm
Skippy power!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 21, 2022, 06:25:47 pm
oh c'mon! Poilievre's 'working man' schtick is just so lame, just so phony, just so disingenuous...

(https://i.imgur.com/6iUWU6F.gif)

Pierre Poilievre Claims He’s a Friend of the ‘Working Class’. He’s Spent Years Attacking Canadian Workers. (https://pressprogress.ca/pierre-poilievre-claims-hes-a-friend-of-the-working-class-hes-spent-years-attacking-canadian-workers/)
A pension he worked for, unlike your trust fund baby.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 21, 2022, 09:00:21 pm
Skippy power!

you doofus! National polls are meaningless... carry on!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 21, 2022, 09:03:46 pm
Skippy power!

(Attachment Link)

Whoa geez.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 21, 2022, 09:04:25 pm
A pension he worked for, unlike your trust fund baby.

you keep nattering on about a PM Trudeau 'trust fund'... care to describe/detail it - sure you can!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 21, 2022, 09:15:16 pm
Whoa geez.

Nipples is a troll; don't be Nipples!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 21, 2022, 11:50:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/qctjEnV.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 22, 2022, 10:53:05 am
Poilievre is so obviously avoiding any mention of... any association to... crypto/bitcoin! Go figure, hey!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdQZdM9XkAEz95x?format=jpg)

while making his HOC grand entrance as the new CPC leader, Deputy PM Freeland gave a gentle reminder to skippy! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1572801173949763586/pu/vid/640x368/x57LTFK__nHAnI1f.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 23, 2022, 10:47:29 pm
Poilievre is so obviously avoiding any mention of... any association to... crypto/bitcoin! Go figure, hey!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdQZdM9XkAEz95x?format=jpg)

while making his HOC grand entrance as the new CPC leader, Deputy PM Freeland gave a gentle reminder to skippy! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1572801173949763586/pu/vid/640x368/x57LTFK__nHAnI1f.mp4?tag=12)
You people are idiots.  You find a downturn in the market and then pretend any investment in crypto is bad no matter what.  It’s like somebody in 2008 saying that anyone that told you to invest in real estate is bad.   If you invest for the long term it’s not a bad investment.  Anyone who knows anything about crypto and blockchain technology know that it’s not going away any more than the internet was going to go away in 2000 during the dot com boom and bust. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 23, 2022, 10:48:09 pm
Oh snap!  Skippy power!

[attachimg=1]

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 23, 2022, 11:03:06 pm
If you invest for the long term it’s not a bad investment.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7yfSSpIYLmj3UHu4nPMKl3eP3vOC-HSe6jA&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 23, 2022, 11:10:31 pm
Oh snap!  Skippy power!

so when are the CPC calling an election, hey! LOL!

by the by, again, federal polls are meaningless
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 23, 2022, 11:11:54 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdS9FFnWIAUUPKO?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 23, 2022, 11:28:49 pm
You people are idiots.  You find a downturn in the market and then pretend any investment in crypto is bad no matter what.  It’s like somebody in 2008 saying that anyone that told you to invest in real estate is bad.   If you invest for the long term it’s not a bad investment.  Anyone who knows anything about crypto and blockchain technology know that it’s not going away any more than the internet was going to go away in 2000 during the dot com boom and bust.

Real estate is at least a real thing. But if you want to invest your life savings in crypto by all means do so.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 24, 2022, 12:02:14 am
Real estate is at least a real thing. But if you want to invest your life savings in crypto by all means do so.

The real estate industry can never collapse longterm.  People need to live in homes.  It can only correct.  Homes have been around for many, many centuries and aren't going anywhere.

Crypto only exists in digital form, has no inherent value, you can't even melt it down and sell the scraps, and it has only existed mainstream for, what, several years?  It is highly, highly speculative and the riskiest investment humanly possible.  It's a terrible longterm investment and Skippy is an idiot.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 24, 2022, 12:04:17 am
If you invest for the long term it’s not a bad investment.

(https://i.imgur.com/1p1Ik3G.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 25, 2022, 07:00:59 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdd00G1XoAE4ugV?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 26, 2022, 04:59:30 am
in its 'early days' misinforming rush {supposedly} targeting inflation, the CPC has set its sights on carbon pollution pricing. Shockingly (as in not), they position the estimated 2030 price @$170 per tonne of CO2 in relation to today's 'high inflation' rate - more pointedly ignoring that it's a gradual rise of $15 per tonne per year to the year 2030... most pointedly ignoring that the related rebates to consumers will also triple in amount over that same period. In the HOC, misinforming Deputy CPC leader Melissa Lantsman:

(https://i.imgur.com/rAtH6mq.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 26, 2022, 08:35:19 am
You people are idiots.  You find a downturn in the market and then pretend any investment in crypto is bad no matter what.  It’s like somebody in 2008 saying that anyone that told you to invest in real estate is bad.   If you invest for the long term it’s not a bad investment.  Anyone who knows anything about crypto and blockchain technology know that it’s not going away any more than the internet was going to go away in 2000 during the dot com boom and bust.

Better analogy - somebody in the 90s telling you to invest in Sim City properties...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 26, 2022, 08:35:46 am
Also - nice going waldo, the Scotiabank CEO stepped aside after your post :(
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 26, 2022, 04:34:54 pm
Pierre was fine with the far-right wackos threatening Trudeau and his family, and even met and shook hands with the people who did it  But now that they've turned on him and his wife, suddenly that sort of rhetoric is unacceptable?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 26, 2022, 04:54:12 pm
Pierre was fine with the far-right wackos threatening Trudeau and his family, and even met and shook hands with the people who did it  But now that they've turned on him and his wife, suddenly that sort of rhetoric is unacceptable?

PeePee says he never heard of these guys despite marching with one of them in Ottawa on Canada Day (https://globalnews.ca/news/8959365/canada-day-convoy-james-topp-far-right-pierre-poilievre/).

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The day before Canada Day, Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre strutted down an Ottawa street with a crowd of red and white adorned supporters trailing behind him.

Alongside him, helping to lead the crowd of protesters who were pushing for a permanent end to vaccine mandates, was a man in a bright vest named James Topp.


Poilievre and Topp can be heard chit-chatting about the veteran’s morning routine, referencing Topp’s recent march across Canada in protest of COVID-19 vaccine mandates.

A topic they didn’t appear to talk about, based on circulating clips, was Topp’s appearance on far-right figurehead Jeremy Mackenzie’s podcast for well over an hour one month ago.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 26, 2022, 07:21:08 pm
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 26, 2022, 07:46:44 pm
If it's Liberal inflation, how do you explain the much-worse situation in far-right governments like in Brazil and the U.K.? Could it be that borrowing to pay off the rich and emboldening Putin were both bad economic strategies that you guys are completely responsible for?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 26, 2022, 08:02:20 pm
  Could it be that borrowing to pay off the rich and emboldening Putin were both bad economic strategies that you guys are completely responsible for?

That just gives us more assets to nationalize.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 26, 2022, 09:06:19 pm
PeePee says he never heard of these guys despite marching with one of them in Ottawa on Canada Day (https://globalnews.ca/news/8959365/canada-day-convoy-james-topp-far-right-pierre-poilievre/).

PeePee PooPoo you're talking about?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 27, 2022, 05:10:02 pm
Skippy power!

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 27, 2022, 05:51:24 pm
How come you didn't mention Trudeau was the solid first choice for PM in the same poll?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 27, 2022, 06:28:37 pm
How come you didn't mention Trudeau was the solid first choice for PM in the same poll?
Voters don’t vote for a PM, they vote for a party that selects the PM.  It’s basic civics.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on September 27, 2022, 06:45:48 pm
Voters don’t vote for a PM, they vote for a party that selects the PM.  It’s basic civics.

Actually they vote for someone running as an MP. Their reasons will vary. Like the individual. Like the party. Like the leader. Who knows.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 27, 2022, 07:51:37 pm
Voters don’t vote for a PM, they vote for a party that selects the PM.  It’s basic civics.
They vote with the prospective PM in mind. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't see so many TrudeauMustGo memes, would you?
Duh.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 27, 2022, 08:55:29 pm
They vote with the prospective PM in mind. If that weren't the case, you wouldn't see so many TrudeauMustGo memes, would you?
Duh.
It’s weird that the Liberals would be 7 points behind them. #TrudeauMustGo #TrudeauResign
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 27, 2022, 10:29:48 pm
PP is half-retarded and the CPC is still polling ahead of the Libs in terms of seat-projection on 338.  Uh-oh spaghetios!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on September 27, 2022, 11:04:42 pm
PP is half-retarded and the CPC is still polling ahead of the Libs in terms of seat-projection on 338.  Uh-oh spaghetios!

Polls at this point in time are completely meaningless.  We might be two years from an election.  And we may be seeing something of a post-leadership bounce for Peter Polyester, as is often the case for new leaders.

However, this might dissuade Justin and his backroom advisors from calling a snap election.

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 27, 2022, 11:12:37 pm
Pierre was fine with the far-right wackos threatening Trudeau and his family, and even met and shook hands with the people who did it  But now that they've turned on him and his wife, suddenly that sort of rhetoric is unacceptable?

(https://i.imgur.com/pqqGmrs.gif)

such a hypocrite is Poilievre - don't be skippy! Claiming he didn't know about Diagolon (until about a month ago) is a g-damn lie... it was prominently mentioned several times back in February during the debate over deployment of the Emergencies Act! Pee Pee, the leader of the Convoy Party of Canada! LOL!

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: kimmy on September 27, 2022, 11:34:18 pm
Charest was favoured amongst all Canadians while Poilievre was favoured amongst conservatives. It’s unfathomable to me why the party chose him.

I mean I get that he represents their ideals but when he doesn’t resonate with the rest of the country why not try to get the fascist dictator <eye roll> out of office?

Probably 40+% of Canadians would not vote CPC regardless of who they chose as leader.  There's little doubt that committed LPC and NDP voters would have preferred Charest to Poilievre, but so what?  Choosing a leader that's popular with people who wouldn't vote for you anyway isn't a recipe for success.

There's two kinds of votes who are actually in play.
 1) undecided centrist voters who might be persuaded to vote CPC
 2) right wing voters who might vote PPC if the party moved to the center.

With regard to group (2) I think clearly Poilievre keeps more CPC voters from migrating to the PPC, and probably brings some PPC voters back to the CPC. I don't know how many votes we're actually talking about there. With PPC typically polling around 5%, clearly not a lot. I do think there is some small number of ridings where vote splitting between PPC and CPC could be a factor, but it's probably not a big difference maker.

With regard to group (1), I think there is obviously a much larger number of voters available there, but I'm skeptical as to whether Charest would make a difference there.  I honestly just don't think Charest matters in 2022.  I just don't think anybody gives a **** about Charest anymore.    Ultimately I think that the election doesn't ride on Trudeau or Poilievre as much as it rides on the economy.  If the economy recovers and people are not feeling as squeezed financially by the time we vote next, I think the Liberals will win. If people are still feeling financially squeezed when we vote next, I think the CPC wins. I think that's what it really comes down to.

 -k
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 28, 2022, 08:45:21 am
1. Probably 40+% of Canadians would not vote CPC regardless of who they chose as leader.   

 

1. Where do you get THAT number ? 

Harper was considered a big meanie by many and he got about 40% ten years ago or so.

https://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/1867-present.html
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on September 28, 2022, 10:56:46 am
1. Where do you get THAT number ? 

Harper was considered a big meanie by many and he got about 40% ten years ago or so.

https://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/1867-present.html

Which means 60% didn't vote for him, which is Kimmy's point that the number of swing votersis relatively small.
 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 28, 2022, 11:55:25 am
Holy crap. That's embarrassing. 😂
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on September 28, 2022, 01:05:37 pm
Holy crap. That's embarrassing. 😂

Math errors are embarrassing ?

Ok... I guess I'm glad I don't have your ego...
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 28, 2022, 01:27:55 pm
I didn't see a math error. I saw a complete lack of understanding of how numbers work.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 28, 2022, 02:27:25 pm
I didn't see a math error. I saw a complete lack of understanding of how numbers work.
What was said about conservatives applies to any party.  No party usually gets much more than 40%, no matter who wins.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on September 28, 2022, 03:23:14 pm
You still don't understand the original point. But I guess you're used to that by now.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 29, 2022, 11:42:36 am
c'mon Shady, why would your boy PeePee and CPC MPs vote against providing dental care to the children of low(er) income families?

Canada Dental Benefit - the Liberal federal government plan states that:
=> as the first stage, coverage for those people who are uninsured, and earning less than $90,000, will start with kids under 12 years old this year;
=> coverage will be expanded to those under 18, seniors and people with disabilities by the end of next year;
=> full implementation is promised by 2025.

NDP calls out Poilievre and Conservatives for opposing kids dental benefit while MPs enjoy comprehensive coverage (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-calls-out-poilievre-and-conservatives-for-opposing-kids-dental-benefit-while-mps-enjoy-comprehensive-coverage-1.6088673)

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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says it’s “ridiculous” that Conservative MPs will vote against a proposed dental benefit for children in low-income families when they enjoy far more comprehensive dental care coverage for their own families.

“Conservative MPs are planning to vote against giving kids dental care when their leader has had publicly-paid dental care for nearly two decades," Singh said Wednesday, referring to Pierre Poilievre, who has been an MP since 2004.

The Conservatives have signalled they will oppose Bill C-31, which would provide a benefit of up to $650 per child under age 12 in families with incomes lower than $90,000. Last week, the party tried to pass a motion in the House of Commons gutting the legislation.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 29, 2022, 04:07:09 pm
c'mon Shady, why would your boy PeePee and CPC MPs vote against providing dental care to the children of low(er) income families?

Canada Dental Benefit - the Liberal federal government plan states that:
=> as the first stage, coverage for those people who are uninsured, and earning less than $90,000, will start with kids under 12 years old this year;
=> coverage will be expanded to those under 18, seniors and people with disabilities by the end of next year;
=> full implementation is promised by 2025.

NDP calls out Poilievre and Conservatives for opposing kids dental benefit while MPs enjoy comprehensive coverage (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-calls-out-poilievre-and-conservatives-for-opposing-kids-dental-benefit-while-mps-enjoy-comprehensive-coverage-1.6088673)

I don't oppose it, however it should be paid for in the budget.

Waldo, how is the Liberal/ndp fake coalition going to pay for it?  Raising taxes or cutting spending elsewhere?  Nah they're just going to add it to the debt just like everything else.

And don't mention the recent quarterly surplus, that's just quarterly, we know it's not going to last longterm with this government.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on September 29, 2022, 04:10:04 pm
I don't oppose it, however it should be paid for in the budget.

Waldo, how is the Liberal/ndp fake coalition going to pay for it?  Raising taxes or cutting spending elsewhere?  Nah they're just going to add it to the debt just like everything else.

And don't mention the recent quarterly surplus, that's just quarterly, we know it's not going to last longterm with this government.
And the surplus comes from record high inflation.  The government is getting extra tax revenue from huge price increases in virtually everything.  Once inflation comes down, so does that extra revenue.  But I wouldn’t doubt that the Liberal-NDP Party plans to raise taxes some more, especially the carbon tax.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 29, 2022, 05:19:42 pm
whoa Shady, you're being very selective in what you're responding to - here, let's try this again, hey! C'mon Shady, think of the kids, think of the kids!

c'mon Shady, why would your boy PeePee and CPC MPs vote against providing dental care to the children of low(er) income families?

NDP calls out Poilievre and Conservatives for opposing kids dental benefit while MPs enjoy comprehensive coverage (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-calls-out-poilievre-and-conservatives-for-opposing-kids-dental-benefit-while-mps-enjoy-comprehensive-coverage-1.6088673)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on September 29, 2022, 05:25:29 pm
...Liberal/ndp fake coalition

wait now! Are you claiming a coalition exists, but its fake... or a postured/posed/presumptive... fake... coalition doesn't exist? Please elaborate, hey Nipples!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 03, 2022, 02:18:55 pm
Alex Jones endorses PierreP as a kindred spirit and part of the far-right movement that includes governments of Brazil and Italy. I'm glad they are at least honest and upfront about their allegiances.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 03, 2022, 05:48:17 pm
Man’o the people. 😂

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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 03, 2022, 06:17:24 pm
You think we must live in poverty before we can ask for higher taxes on the rich? How stupid are you?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: wilber on October 03, 2022, 06:25:19 pm
Man’o the people. 😂

(Attachment Link)

You claim Trump is a man of the people, his Rolexes are solid gold.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 03, 2022, 11:39:41 pm
Alex Jones endorses PierreP as a kindred spirit and part of the far-right movement that includes governments of Brazil and Italy. I'm glad they are at least honest and upfront about their allegiances.

FFS! The video extract, only 18 secs in, where degenerate wing-nut Alex Jones touts Poilievre! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1576681761261633538/pu/vid/1280x720/szfVPBQZkGRyJRUK.mp4?tag=12) Oh my!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 08:29:51 am
You claim Trump is a man of the people, his Rolexes are solid gold.
I've never said that Trump is a man of the people.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 08:31:33 am
FFS! The video extract, only 18 secs in, where degenerate wing-nut Alex Jones touts Poilievre! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1576681761261633538/pu/vid/1280x720/szfVPBQZkGRyJRUK.mp4?tag=12) Oh my!
Do you want to go into detail of the backgrounds of some of Justin Blackface's supporters?  Probably not.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 09:07:37 am
But...whatabout the Putin stooges that support Justin? They might exist. Shady can't name anyone, but...they might exist. Whatabout them! 😆
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 09:33:51 am
But...whatabout the Putin stooges that support Justin? They might exist. Shady can't name anyone, but...they might exist. Whatabout them! 😆
I never said anything about a Putin stooge.  He has plenty of Xi stooge support though, and even worse, some former **** criminals.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 09:41:26 am
How about Putin-backed conspiracy theorists who, like you, are working to destroy western democracy? Whatabout that? Got anything...at all?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 09:41:50 am
Man’o the people. 😂

(Attachment Link)

He looks good, let's see your fit.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 09:58:55 am
He looks good, let's see your fit.
He's the classic champagne socialist/limousine liberal.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 09:59:38 am
How about Putin-backed conspiracy theorists who, like you, are working to destroy western democracy? Whatabout that? Got anything...at all?
I love the hyperbole!  It's entertaining.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 10:12:16 am
I think the cops that died after the Jan. 6 riot you cheered on would disagree that your slurping of Putinballs is hyperbole.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 10:33:30 am
I think the cops that died after the Jan. 6 riot you cheered on would disagree that your slurping of Putinballs is hyperbole.
You mean the cops that died for reasons other than the riot?  Who cares?  What about the cops that died during BLM riots?  Why don’t you care about them?  What about the cops that have been targeted and killed due to you and your ilk’s irresponsible rhetoric defaming police in 2020?  Stare me your crocodile tears, you have no credibility.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 10:51:26 am
Yes, I know you don't care about the people you guys are responsible for killing. But I like how you make up BS just to distract from what a sh1tstain your mother shat. lol
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 10:56:41 am
Yes, I know you don't care about the people you guys are responsible for killing. But I like how you make up BS just to distract from what a sh1tstain your mother shat. lol
Yes of course, just like you don't care about the people you're responsible for killing.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 11:01:00 am
I never cheered on riots while they were happening. And there were no police deaths from BLM riots. All you got is a black guy committed a robbery once and shot a police officer. You decided to make that about BLM because you're from London and you guys throw bananas at black hockey players there.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 11:18:04 am
I never cheered on riots while they were happening. And there were no police deaths from BLM riots. All you got is a black guy committed a robbery once and shot a police officer. You decided to make that about BLM because you're from London and you guys throw bananas at black hockey players there.
More than 700 officers were injured during the riots you supported, and you've said nothing.  You have no credibility.  Spare me your pathetic crocodile tears.

Officers injured: The New York Post reported on June 8, citing the U.S. Justice Department, that more than 700 law enforcement officers were injured on the job during nationwide protests over Floyd’s death.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/10/fact-checking-claim-about-deaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests/113878088/

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 11:33:25 am
He's the classic champagne socialist/limousine liberal.

Post fit.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 11:38:04 am
You mean the cops that died for reasons other than the riot?  Who cares?

Filing this one away for posterity lol
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 11:42:58 am
Filing this one away for posterity lol
I forgot that you love the police, as long as they're going after your political enemies.  Just like a good little authoritarian.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 11:52:57 am
I forgot that you love the police, as long as they're going after your political enemies.  Just like a good little authoritarian.

Wait who are my political enemies in this scenario where you don't care about cops getting maimed/killed?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 12:05:15 pm
Wait who are my political enemies in this scenario where you don't care about cops getting maimed/killed?
Nobody was maimed/killed.  You’re living in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 12:08:54 pm
Nobody was maimed/killed.  You’re living in a fantasy world.

You live in a world where no cops were killed or injured on Jan. 6 and kids identify as cats: you're so detached from reality you should be committed to psychiatric care and possibly lobotomized (if there was anything there to work with in the first place).
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 12:10:39 pm
You live in a world where no cops were killed or injured on Jan. 6 and kids identify as cats: you're so detached from reality you should be committed to psychiatric care and possibly lobotomized (if there was anything there to work with in the first place).
Because there were none.  Now do the BLM riots you supported, where over 700 hundred were injured. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 12:13:53 pm
Because there were none. 

Facts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html) don't care about the strange alternate reality in which you reside.

Now do the BLM riots you supported, where over 700 hundred were injured. 

Who cares? 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 04, 2022, 12:15:48 pm
More than 700 officers were injured during the riots you supported, and you've said nothing.  You have no credibility.  Spare me your pathetic crocodile tears.

Officers injured: The New York Post reported on June 8, citing the U.S. Justice Department, that more than 700 law enforcement officers were injured on the job during nationwide protests over Floyd’s death.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/10/fact-checking-claim-about-deaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests/113878088/

nice own goal you stooge! Clearly showing you prefer headline munching rather than reading your own links. Cause if you actually did read you'd note, more pointedly, that the U.S. Justice Department (being cited) doesn't have the numbers you're bold-highlighting:
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the U.S. Justice Department told us it does not have figures on officer injuries or property damage resulting from civil disturbances, and the FBI said it had no comment.

and most pointedly, you'd note your linked article first appeared in Politifact where it received a 'FALSE' rating; again, nice OWN GOAL!

(https://i.imgur.com/0NhxvRk.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 04, 2022, 12:24:39 pm
c'mon waldo, get this thread back on track! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1577251917620822022/pu/vid/1280x720/BTZ6lPCyB810zC0d.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 12:36:07 pm
nice own goal you stooge! Clearly showing you prefer headline munching rather than reading your own links. Cause if you actually did read you'd note, more pointedly, that the U.S. Justice Department (being cited) doesn't have the numbers you're bold-highlighting:
and most pointedly, you'd note your linked article first appeared in Politifact where it received a 'FALSE' rating; again, nice OWN GOAL!

(https://i.imgur.com/0NhxvRk.gif)
I quoted the numbers indicated by the fact check, not the initial claim.  Try harder.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 12:37:21 pm
Facts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html) don't care about the strange alternate reality in which you reside.
LOL, the Union says huh?   LOL.  There aren't that many police officers on duty at the capital to begin with, that was one of the problems, as there were barely any law enforcement there.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 04, 2022, 12:49:04 pm
I quoted the numbers indicated by the fact check, not the initial claim.  Try harder.

bullshyte you did! LOL!... it's the fact check that's busting your claim/statement!

(https://i.imgur.com/4ZIxNo9.gif)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 12:55:55 pm
LOL, the Union says huh?   LOL.  There aren't that many police officers on duty at the capital to begin with, that was one of the problems, as there were barely any law enforcement there.

That figure includes boyh Capitol and Metro cops but you've never been great with numbers concerning this event (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/american-politics/the-donald-trump-thread/msg92680/#msg92680).



Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 12:59:55 pm
That figure includes boyh Capitol and Metro cops but you've never been great with numbers concerning this event (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/american-politics/the-donald-trump-thread/msg92680/#msg92680).
So why don't you care about the police injured during your BLM riots?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 01:02:29 pm
So why don't you care about the police injured during your BLM riots?

I don't. The point is your selective outrage and complete denial of the reality of what happened on Jan. 6.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 01:09:32 pm
I don't. The point is your selective outrage and complete denial of the reality of what happened on Jan. 6.
It's you who has the selective outrage.  I've always acknowledged the BLM-like riot that took place on January 6th.  But it's odd that you've never spoken up about injured officers, etc until then.  When the riots you supported in 2020 producted 10 times as many injured, etc.  That's why you, just like Blubber Slimy, have absolutely no credibility.  Spare me your crocodile tears, you f**king fraud.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 01:44:22 pm
It's you who has the selective outrage.  I've always acknowledged the BLM-like riot that took place on January 6th. 

You have done nothing but downplay the extent of the violence on Jan 6 (describing the mob as "a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent" and dead Q-Tard Ashlii Babbit as "an unarmed woman walking around the capital") and its intent while pretending whole cities were burned down during the riots during the BLM protests.

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But it's odd that you've never spoken up about injured officers, etc until then.  When the riots you supported in 2020 producted 10 times as many injured, etc.

Yeah I think protesting police brutality is good and trying to overthrow the democratically elected government is bad, go figure.

Now go back to crying about made up litterboxes in classrooms you dumb twat.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 01:52:37 pm
You have done nothing but downplay the extent of the violence on Jan 6 (describing the mob as "a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent" and dead Q-Tard Ashlii Babbit as "an unarmed woman walking around the capital") and its intent while pretending whole cities were burned down during the riots during the BLM protests.

Yeah I think protesting police brutality is good and trying to overthrow the democratically elected government is bad, go figure.

Now go back to crying about made up litterboxes in classrooms you dumb twat.
I said it was several hundred people, not a handful you pathological liar.  They were unarmed.  I'm sorry that fact offends you so much.  Not whole cities, but whole neighbourhoods, as oppose to nothing being burned on January 6th.  You've downplayed the BLM riots you supported for the last 2 years.

Once again, the fantasy world you live in bubbles to the surface.  Overthrow of an election?  You need professional help.  A group of unarmed people CANNOT overthrow a government by walking around in a building.  You're certifiable. 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 02:10:36 pm
I said it was several hundred people, not a handful you pathological liar.

Not only did you say it was "a handful of people," you doubled down on it when we laughed at you:

So you finally admit that the election couldn’t have been overturned.  See how easy that was?  So this whole insurrection stuff is complete and utter bullsh*t.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  And a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent. I fully support them being charged for trespassing and assault.  The rest of this theatre is complete insanity.

Yes, a handful of people.  Check the number of people charged with assault.  You don’t even ha e to take my word for it.

Suck on that one.

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They were unarmed.  I'm sorry that fact offends you so much. 

Why would I be offended by something that isn't true?

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Not whole cities, but whole neighbourhoods, as oppose to nothing being burned on January 6th. 

"It's ok for an armed mob to attempt to overthow the government if nothing gets set on fire"-Shid-for-brains.

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You've downplayed the BLM riots you supported for the last 2 years.

My point has always been that the overwhelming number of protests were peaceful and that's a fact, pindick.

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Once again, the fantasy world you live in bubbles to the surface.  Overthrow of an election?  You need professional help.  A group of unarmed people CANNOT overthrow a government by walking around in a building.  You're certifiable.

But that's what they were trying to do, you gibbering shitgibbon.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 02:42:53 pm
Not only did you say it was "a handful of people," you doubled down on it when we laughed at you:

Suck on that one.

Why would I be offended by something that isn't true?

"It's ok for an armed mob to attempt to overthow the government if nothing gets set on fire"-Shid-for-brains.

My point has always been that the overwhelming number of protests were peaceful and that's a fact, pindick.

But that's what they were trying to do, you gibbering shitgibbon.
I'll say this one more time, so that you're pea brain can hopefully comprehend it.  A GOVERNMENT CANNOT BE OVERTHROW BY TRESSPASSING.  IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP, AND HAVE BEEN SO PROPAGANDIZED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT YOU'RE BEYOND REPAIR.

99% of rioters that have been charged, were charged with trespassing.  Trespassing cannot overthrow governments.  Even hitting a police officer cannot overthrow a government.

I'm done talking about this with you, or anyone that's as bat s**t crazy as you.  You're an effing lunatic.

Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 02:50:18 pm
I'll say this one more time, so that you're pea brain can hopefully comprehend it.  A GOVERNMENT CANNOT BE OVERTHROW BY TRESSPASSING.  IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP, AND HAVE BEEN SO PROPAGANDIZED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT YOU'RE BEYOND REPAIR.

99% of rioters that have been charged, were charged with trespassing.  Trespassing cannot overthrow governments.  Even hitting a police officer cannot overthrow a government.

I'm done talking about this with you, or anyone that's as bat s**t crazy as you.  You're an effing lunatic.

I'm well aware they were unlikely to succeed in overthrowing the government. The point is the "handful of people" (as you called them) who invaded the capitol thought they could. It's why they were there in the first place, you mush-brained donkeyfucker. Do you think they just busted in to take a look around, you stupid c*nt? Jesus christ, your parents should have drowned you in a sack the day you cursed the earth with your presence.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 02:54:37 pm
I'm well aware they were unlikely to succeed in overthrowing the government. The point is the "handful of people" (as you called them) who invaded the capitol thought they could. It's why they were there in the first place, you mush-brained donkeyfucker. Do you think they just busted in to take a look around, you stupid c*nt? Jesus christ, your parents should have drowned you in a sack.
No, not unlikely, try not possible.  Just like squeezing a piece of coal really hard with your hand will turn it into a diamond.  I feel sad for people like you, that accept media propaganda as if it were fact.  I hope you eventually get the help you need.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 03:02:46 pm
99% of rioters that have been charged, were charged with trespassing.  Trespassing cannot overthrow governments.  Even hitting a police officer cannot overthrow a government.
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Your fellow Oathkeepers have been charged with seditious conspiracy.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 03:35:34 pm
No, not unlikely, try not possible.  Just like squeezing a piece of coal really hard with your hand will turn it into a diamond.  I feel sad for people like you, that accept media propaganda as if it were fact.  I hope you eventually get the help you need.

You should put down your bowl of Frosted Lead Paint Chips and answer the question of what you suppose the people who were there on Jan. 6 were trying to accomplish.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 03:37:51 pm
Your fellow Oathkeepers have been charged with seditious conspiracy.

Shady's the kind of retard who would call in a bomb threat to a public library and get mad when he gets arrested because there wasn't really a bomb.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 03:39:46 pm
Shady's the kind of retard who would call in a bomb threat to a public library and get mad when he gets arrested because there wasn't really a bomb.
Black Dog is the kind of retard that would charge somebody with attempted murder because they thought they could kill somebody by looking at them with a really mean stare.

Btw, what would I be arrested for?  Not attempted murder, retard.  Nice self-own.  Thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 03:47:08 pm
Black Dog is the kind of retard that would charge somebody with attempted murder because they thought they could kill somebody by looking at them with a really mean stare.

What a godawfully poor copycat attempt. You should lock yourself in a running car in a closed garage until you think of a better one.

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Btw, what would I be arrested for?  Not attempted murder, retard.  Nice self-own.  Thanks for proving my point.

You'd be arrested for a different crime, but that would not change what your intent was in making the threat you imbecile. Christ how do you even get dressed?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 03:55:54 pm
What a godawfully poor copycat attempt. You should lock yourself in a running car in a closed garage until you think of a better one.

You'd be arrested for a different crime, but that would not change what your intent was in making the threat you imbecile. Christ how do you even get dressed?
Yes, I’d be arrested for a different crime.  Thank you again for making my point.  You’re such a rube!  That might have been the best self-own in the history of self-owns! 😂
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 04:06:53 pm
Yes, I’d be arrested for a different crime.  Thank you again for making my point.  You’re such a rube!  That might have been the best self-own in the history of self-owns! 😂

It's comical to see you lose the thread of your own argument and reach the "flip the chessboard over and declare yourself winner" stage. I'd love to see you even attempt to summarize your argument at this point.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 04:46:13 pm
It's comical to see you lose the thread of your own argument and reach the "flip the chessboard over and declare yourself winner" stage. I'd love to see you even attempt to summarize your argument at this point.
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Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 04, 2022, 05:17:52 pm
Your fellow Oathkeepers have been charged with seditious conspiracy.

as have a number of Shady's Proud Boys!

seditious conspiracy: in U.S. Federal law, the crime of sedition, which generally means the organized encouragement of rebellion or civil disorder against the authority of the state. An act where two or more people conspire to overthrow the U.S. government or to forcibly oppose its authority, interfere with the execution of any law, or seize any property of the U.S..
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 05:26:59 pm
as have a number of Shady's Proud Boys!

seditious conspiracy: in U.S. Federal law, the crime of sedition, which generally means the organized encouragement of rebellion or civil disorder against the authority of the state. An act where two or more people conspire to overthrow the U.S. government or to forcibly oppose its authority, interfere with the execution of any law, or seize any property of the U.S..
Hmmm, sounds like BLM and Antifa!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 05:28:23 pm
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Yeah memes is all you got, you fuckin loser.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 05:30:52 pm
as have a number of Shady's Proud Boys!

seditious conspiracy: in U.S. Federal law, the crime of sedition, which generally means the organized encouragement of rebellion or civil disorder against the authority of the state. An act where two or more people conspire to overthrow the U.S. government or to forcibly oppose its authority, interfere with the execution of any law, or seize any property of the U.S..

So that's 16 total Oaf Keepers and **** Boys charged with seditious conspiracy. The question is: is that a handful?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 05:39:29 pm
Yeah memes is all you got, you fuckin loser.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 🤣
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 06:27:54 pm
Hmmm, sounds like BLM and Antifa!
You can provide a cute of them being charged with seditious conspiracy, or you can silently admit you lose again.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 04, 2022, 07:09:20 pm
You can provide a cute of them being charged with seditious conspiracy, or you can silently admit you lose again.
Being charged doesn’t mean guilty.  I mean, I know ol’Police State Bubber abandoned innocent until proven guilty a king time ago.  Regardless, politicizing the justice department generally means that justice in unevenly applied.  Hence, some people are charged with things others are not, despite similar actions.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 07:17:21 pm
Being charged doesn’t mean guilty.  I mean, I know ol’Police State Bubber abandoned innocent until proven guilty a king time ago.  Regardless, politicizing the justice department generally means that justice in unevenly applied. Hence, some people are charged with things others are not, despite similar actions.

"Burning down an autobody shop is the same as plotting to violently prevent the transfer of presidential power." - Shiddy
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Black Dog on October 04, 2022, 07:17:43 pm
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 🤣

You don't have to sign your posts, we already know you're retarded.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 04, 2022, 07:23:57 pm
Being charged doesn’t mean guilty.  I mean, I know ol’Police State Bubber abandoned innocent until proven guilty a king time ago.  Regardless, politicizing the justice department generally means that justice in unevenly applied.  Hence, some people are charged with things others are not, despite similar actions.
But charges are derived from evidence. So you have no evidence of what you're talking about? Why do you bother then? It's not like you have the credibility that someone would take your word for it
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 06, 2022, 02:23:53 pm
apparently... there's a new Conservative leader! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1577776284977037312/pu/vid/1280x720/qudrBAhNqYkYNJw_.mp4?tag=12)Who knew!
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 06, 2022, 02:47:49 pm
oh my! Poilievre's YouTube channel included a hidden misogynistic tag to promote videos... the tag, #mgtow, is an acronym for “Men Going Their Own Way” — a mostly-online movement comprised of anti-feminists who attempt to cut women completely out of their lives. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the movement overlaps with more aggressive forms of “male supremacy.”
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Within hours of Global News sending a detailed list of questions to Poilievre’s office, the tag disappeared.

Poilievre’s office said the Conservative leader was unaware the embedded tags existed “and therefore was unaware they were used for uploads on his YouTube channel over the last” four and a half years.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 06, 2022, 06:32:31 pm
You'd think he would have disavowed Alex Jones' endorsement by now. Rather telling that he hasn't.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on October 06, 2022, 07:19:28 pm
oh my! Poilievre's YouTube channel included a hidden misogynistic tag to promote videos... the tag, #mgtow, is an acronym for “Men Going Their Own Way” — a mostly-online movement comprised of anti-feminists who attempt to cut women completely out of their lives. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the movement overlaps with more aggressive forms of “male supremacy.”

What’s most shocking is a lack of racist or homophobic tags! 
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 06, 2022, 07:40:37 pm
What’s most shocking is a lack of racist or homophobic tags!
You’ve got a lot of nerve posting in a thread waldo had to create because you kept deleting his posts.  Get the f**k out of here you f**king fascist.  Nobody wants you here.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 06, 2022, 07:41:46 pm
But charges are derived from evidence. So you have no evidence of what you're talking about? Why do you bother then? It's not like you have the credibility that someone would take your word for it
But I thought it! 😂
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on October 06, 2022, 09:18:59 pm
  Nobody wants you here.
Since when did that bother you?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 29, 2022, 11:50:43 am
not that the waldo is counting, but... apparently it's coming up on 75 days since Poilievre accepted an interview/questions from the cadre of Parliamentary Press Gallery (PPG)journalists - what's PeePee afraid of, anyway? Even more pointedly, Poilievre distanced himself from the recent days (yearly) PPG dinner which, by tradition, sees both the Prime Minister and the leader of the Official Opposition roast each other in "friendly criticism/banter" - clearly too much for the thin-skinned PeePee. By the by waldo, it seems Poilievre has no problem with taking soft-ball tailored questions from the likes of so-called "journalists" from True North, Rebel News, Western Standard, etc..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2wkXXOBbFI
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 30, 2022, 03:17:35 pm
skippy approved!

(https://i.imgur.com/YuaGAep.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: MH on October 30, 2022, 03:26:51 pm
The populist strategy to troll the press is unacceptable but their supporters won't call them on it.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on October 31, 2022, 12:25:48 pm
and so the Poilievre revisionism begins! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1586748378427576322/pu/vid/1024x576/DGJLCWkrfVN-eBAL.mp4?tag=12) Oh my! Poilievre taking them timmies, saying he supports the truckers, doing selfies with the truckers, marching with the leaders of the Convoy, etc..

Quote from: CPC leader PeePee
If this government gives into all the demands of the lawbreakers, It will get more lawbreaking. How will we ever restore lawfulness and development in this country?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on October 31, 2022, 03:40:51 pm
Waldo, how do you taste food with Justin's feces rammed so far up your nose from all the brown-nosing and your lips permanently stitched to the man's bum cheeks?
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on October 31, 2022, 03:53:09 pm
Waldo, how do you taste food with Justin's feces rammed so far up your nose from all the brown-nosing and your lips permanently stitched to the man's bum cheeks?
I assume he gets paid by direct deposit by the Liberal Party of Canada.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 06, 2022, 12:58:36 pm
Funny how you never hear these stories in the Canadian media:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63393955
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on November 06, 2022, 01:28:53 pm
Funny how you never hear these stories in the Canadian media:

waldo googly says what? Bloc leader condemns 'racist' and 'humiliating' monarchy while calling for Canada to cut ties with Charles (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bloc-racist-humiliating-monarchy-1.6628934)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on November 09, 2022, 12:53:13 pm
newly appointed Communications Director for the ConvoyPartyOfCanada - Sarah Fischer => a long-time party staffer and failed 2019 Conservative candidate under Andrew Scheer:

here she is pacing the CPC leader during his run to be the Prime Minister of Canada!

(https://i.imgur.com/bTq5PNF.gif)

better yet, she has a litany of videos she personally took during the Occupation of Ottawa; a few examples of:

- like this gem which accompanies her, "music to my ears", tweet (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1487217189761519616/pu/vid/720x1280/0bITd6VztynAJjZu.mp4?tag=12):
 
(https://i.imgur.com/P17CnnX.gif)

- or this one where she's hands-on! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1487924846617145345/pu/vid/720x1280/-oza6Lhi9ZKC9AoB.mp4?tag=12[/url)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on November 09, 2022, 05:07:37 pm
PeePee really under the gun today for continuing to boycott taking questions from the Parliamentary Press on Parliament Hill... clearly not willing to answer to/for, among many issues, the #mgtow tag in his youtube videos!

(https://i.imgur.com/k3hMWzW.jpg)
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Based Shady on November 09, 2022, 05:17:59 pm
PeePee really under the gun today for continuing to boycott taking questions from the Parliamentary Press on Parliament Hill... clearly not willing to answer to/for, among many issues, the #mgtow tag in his youtube videos!

(https://i.imgur.com/k3hMWzW.jpg)
LOL @ YouTube videos! 😂
Meanwhile we have a PM that’s been found guilty a record number of times for ethics violations.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: Bubbermiley on November 09, 2022, 06:25:27 pm
LOL @ YouTube videos! 😂
Nobody expected you to be offended that they were tagging videos to target you.
Title: Re: Opposition Parties (uncensored thread)
Post by: waldo on November 10, 2022, 11:16:15 am
PeePee really under the gun today for continuing to boycott taking questions from the Parliamentary Press on Parliament Hill...

so PeePee had a most carefully scripted/staged "presser" in Kitts and was quite taken aback when some wag asked why he refused to take questions from the 'Press Gallery' on Parliament Hill... Poilievre whining waddamean, "I'm taking questions right now"! Apparently, the PeePee boycott is now at 80 days - but who's counting! Geezaz Shady, what's Poilievre so afraid of, hey?