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Title: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:22:39 pm
The tyrant forum member named aka Joseph "squiggy" Stalin has deleted posts by "Let's Go Brandon" and myself in the other trucker rally because, well, the snowflake doesn't like certain posts.

So I will no longer post in that thread.  All members are allowed to post whatever they wish in this thread, even Squiggy Stalin because i'm not a tyrant that censors speech in the "Charles" style which is the reason this forum was created in the first place.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 03:24:04 pm
Sounds like a good idea.  I’m also on board, pun intended!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on January 31, 2022, 03:26:03 pm
This is the topic to post all your abortion pictures.   Have at it!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 03:26:42 pm
This is the topic to post all your abortion pictures.   Have at it!
Get lost fascist!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on January 31, 2022, 03:30:41 pm
Get lost fascist!

But Graham said I could post here….  You’ll have to talk to him about that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 03:30:46 pm
The best part of the trucker rally is to listen to libtards get very concerned now over statues and monuments.  After doing and saying nothing for over a year while mobs were tearing them down.  Mind blowing hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:30:52 pm
Update:  the tyrant member Squiggy "The New Charles" Squiggerson has now deleted all of my recent posts from his thread because he is a tyrant who enjoys censorship for those whose opinions he disagrees with and rules his threads with an iron fist.

Member Graham will put his money where his mouth is and not censor people even if he disagrees with them.  Currently planning a trucker convoy to Ottawa to show support for message board non-tyranny.  All are welcome except racists and Nazis.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:31:30 pm
This is the topic to post all your abortion pictures.   Have at it!

Here's an abortion:  your thread!:  https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-rally/45/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 03:31:44 pm
But Graham said I could post here….  You’ll have to talk to him about that.
You’re a libtard, so of course you’re going to be a hypocrite as well.  It goes without saying. 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:32:34 pm
Get lost fascist!

There will be no segregating into our political bubbles in Graham threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAevTkd11sM
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 03:34:04 pm
Here's an abortion:  your thread!:  https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-rally/45/
Pro-abortionists hate seeing or hearing about the ramifications of their policies.  They prefer to keep they eyes closed.  That way their barbaric philosophy never becomes real to them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:34:40 pm
This is the topic to post all your abortion pictures.   Have at it!

I compared vaccine rights to abortion rights because they both involve consent over your own body.  And then you deleted it because abortion is "off-topic".  Bad form.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:36:02 pm
Pro-abortionists hate seeing or hearing about the ramifications of their policies.  They prefer to keep they eyes closed.  That way their barbaric philosophy never becomes real to them.

Dehumanizing your victims makes it easier to kill them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 03:37:55 pm
The best part of the trucker rally is to listen to libtards get very concerned now over statues and monuments.  After doing and saying nothing for over a year while mobs were tearing them down.  Mind blowing hypocrisy.

Vandalism of public properly is always wrong.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 03:40:55 pm
The best part of the trucker rally is to listen to libtards get very concerned now over statues and monuments.  After doing and saying nothing for over a year while mobs were tearing them down.  Mind blowing hypocrisy.

Do...do you think we have a problem with statues, like, in general? Do you think Terry Fox is the same as a racist Confederate general?

I've heard of people being dropped on their heads as kids and having cognitive problems later, but your mom must have dribbled you like a basketball.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 03:46:02 pm
Pro-abortionists hate seeing or hearing about the ramifications of their policies.  They prefer to keep they eyes closed.  That way their barbaric philosophy never becomes real to them.

You can post as many pictures of bloody embryos as you want, doesn't bother me or change my view that abortion is a net good.

Maybe that stuff works on weak-minded, emotional people but I'm built different.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on January 31, 2022, 03:57:28 pm
You can post as many pictures of bloody embryos as you want, doesn't bother me or change my view that abortion is a net good.

Maybe that stuff works on weak-minded, emotional people but I'm built different.

It’s kind of like putting up pics of open heart surgery and thinking that people would want open heart surgery banned cuz it’s gross.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on January 31, 2022, 03:59:53 pm
Dehumanizing your victims makes it easier to kill them.

I thought you were against abortion…. But now you’re saying “getting vaxxed is like abortions… a case of bodily autonomy”.

But you don’t actually believe in the bodily autonomy of women who want to get an abortion.

Your argument falls apart when you don’t actually agree with your own argument!  LOL
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on January 31, 2022, 04:34:46 pm
I compared vaccine rights to abortion rights because they both involve consent over your own body.  And then you deleted it because abortion is "off-topic".  Bad form.

If it was that photo, I deleted it. Any idiot knows that abortions are not performed after 24 weeks in Canada unless the mother's life is in imminent danger or the fetus has severe malformations. Less than 5% of abortions in Canada are performed after 24 weeks so lets get back on topic.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 04:48:23 pm
If it was that photo, I deleted it. Any idiot knows that abortions are not performed after 24 weeks in Canada unless the mother's life is in imminent danger or the fetus has severe malformations. Less than 5% of abortions in Canada are performed after 24 weeks so lets get back on topic.
That’s just not true.  Regardless, so a 5% infanticide rate is acceptable?  Maybe to you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 04:50:04 pm
You can post as many pictures of bloody embryos as you want, doesn't bother me or change my view that abortion is a net good.

Maybe that stuff works on weak-minded, emotional people but I'm built different.
You can think whatever you want.  Killing children is wrong.  No matter how convenient it is for you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 04:56:46 pm
That’s just not true.

You're right, it's actually much lower, like between 3% and less than 1%.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 04:58:34 pm
You can think whatever you want.  Killing children is wrong.  No matter how convenient it is for you.

You're entitled to your silly belief, but you're not entitled to impose that on anyone else.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 05:16:18 pm
Anyhoo back to the subject of the thread, it always kills me that the anti-mandate people so often cloak themselves in populist rhetoric about the people vs elites, but then do stuff like scream at and threaten working class people making minimum wage at crummy retail jobs for trying to enforce rules they had nothing to do with, which really highlights the entitlement and selfishness these petulant toddlers possess.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 05:35:44 pm
You're entitled to your silly belief, but you're not entitled to impose that on anyone else.
You mean like vaccines!!? 😂🤣
Nobody is imposing abortion on anyone.  Just don’t ask for other people to pay for and/or participate in it. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 05:38:01 pm
Do...do you think we have a problem with statues, like, in general? Do you think Terry Fox is the same as a racist Confederate general?

I've heard of people being dropped on their heads as kids and having cognitive problems later, but your mom must have dribbled you like a basketball.
Do you think tearing down John A MacDonald statues is acceptable?  Are you not aware of the statues that have been destroyed in Canada?  Or do you think every statue is a confederate general?  We’re you dropped on your head as a child?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 05:40:51 pm
You mean like vaccines!!? 😂🤣

No, because pregnancy is not an infectious disease. Damn dude, do I have to explain where babies come from?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 05:43:36 pm
Do you think tearing down John A MacDonald statues is acceptable?  Are you not aware of the statues that have been destroyed in Canada?  Or do you think every statue is a confederate general?

Yes.

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We’re you dropped on your head as a child?

1. I already made that joke, sorry.
2. It's spelled "Were."

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 06:19:44 pm
Yes.

1. I already made that joke, sorry.
2. It's spelled "Were."
Right.  See, it’s ok when your thugs tear down statues and monuments.  You just don’t like it when somebody else puts a hat on one.  Classic libtard hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 31, 2022, 06:20:41 pm
Coward-19 is trending on Twitter in rejection to Trudeau’s hiding during the protests! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 06:47:36 pm
I thought you were against abortion…. But now you’re saying “getting vaxxed is like abortions… a case of bodily autonomy”.

But you don’t actually believe in the bodily autonomy of women who want to get an abortion.

Your argument falls apart when you don’t actually agree with your own argument!  LOL

I believe in the body autonomy of everyone, including women, the unborn, and the unvaxxed.  Many others believe in the body autonomy of women, but not the unborn and not the unvaxxed.

I don't have an issue with the US banning the unvaxxed from entering their country.  I think unvaxxed truckers going into US states with COVID rates not significantly higher than their own province should not be impeded.  I think it's possibly ok to ask unvaxxed truckers entering into states with significantly higher COVID rates than their province to be quarantined or submit to testing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 06:48:38 pm
If it was that photo, I deleted it. Any idiot knows that abortions are not performed after 24 weeks in Canada unless the mother's life is in imminent danger or the fetus has severe malformations. Less than 5% of abortions in Canada are performed after 24 weeks so lets get back on topic.

No I never posted any fetus pics.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 06:53:24 pm
You're right, it's actually much lower, like between 3% and less than 1%.

"A baby's heartbeat can be detected by transvaginal ultrasound as early as 3 to 4 weeks after conception,"

https://www.babycenter.com/pregnancy/health-and-safety/when-can-i-hear-my-babys-heartbeat_10349811
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 06:59:11 pm
Anyhoo back to the subject of the thread, it always kills me that the anti-mandate people so often cloak themselves in populist rhetoric about the people vs elites, but then do stuff like scream at and threaten working class people making minimum wage at crummy retail jobs for trying to enforce rules they had nothing to do with, which really highlights the entitlement and selfishness these petulant toddlers possess.

Yelling at and harassing workers should not be tolerated.  Private businesses have the right to set their own rules.  In most protests i've seen there's always some jerks and morons.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on January 31, 2022, 07:13:23 pm
I believe in the body autonomy of everyone, including women, …

No, you actually don’t.  You pretend to…. But then you say stupid things like “bodily autonomy of the unborn”, which is code for “f*ck women’s bodily autonomy”.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 07:15:50 pm
No, you actually don’t.  You pretend to…. But then you say stupid things like “bodily autonomy of the unborn”, which is code for “f*ck women’s bodily autonomy”.

These are lies without any evidence to support them.  You are the Donald Trump of this forum.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 07:45:54 pm
Right.  See, it’s ok when your thugs tear down statues and monuments.  You just don’t like it when somebody else puts a hat on one.  Classic libtard hypocrisy.

My god you're dumb. You genuinely think progressives have a problem with statues and not the people they depict and the message celebrating racists sends.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 07:46:16 pm
"A baby's heartbeat can be detected by transvaginal ultrasound as early as 3 to 4 weeks after conception,"

https://www.babycenter.com/pregnancy/health-and-safety/when-can-i-hear-my-babys-heartbeat_10349811

So what?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on January 31, 2022, 07:47:15 pm
I believe in the body autonomy of everyone, including women, the unborn, and the unvaxxed.  Many others believe in the body autonomy of women, but not the unborn and not the unvaxxed.

So what happens when those rights collide? Why does the embryo get more rights than the actual person?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on January 31, 2022, 09:34:25 pm
Update:  the tyrant member Squiggy "The New Charles" Squiggerson has now deleted all of my recent posts from his thread because he is a tyrant who enjoys censorship for those whose opinions he disagrees with and rules his threads with an iron fist.

Member Graham will put his money where his mouth is and not censor people even if he disagrees with them.  Currently planning a trucker convoy to Ottawa to show support for message board non-tyranny.  All are welcome except racists and Nazis.

Except that Trucker thread 2.0 did become an abortion debate. You may have won the war but Squiggy clearly won the battle with stopping that nonsense right in its tracks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on January 31, 2022, 10:59:24 pm
"A baby's heartbeat can be detected by transvaginal ultrasound as early as 3 to 4 weeks after conception,"

https://www.babycenter.com/pregnancy/health-and-safety/when-can-i-hear-my-babys-heartbeat_10349811
And? So what? Why is that relevant?

Even if there is a heartbeat, the fetus is not yet viable. It does not have fully formed lungs, nor digestive system, nor other things that are necessary for something to survive independent of the mother. There is nothing magical about detecting a heart beat.

(I could also point out that medical sources differ about when heartbeat can be detected, but very few agree with your 3-4 week time frame... But that is irrelevant for the previous reason I gave.)

Disagree with abortion? Then don't get one. But for those who have no moral qualms about terminating an unwanted pregnancy, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible sky daddy who is worried about all the "unborn babies", they should be allowed the choice.

And as another poster pointed out... pregnancy (unlike covid) is non-transmissible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 11:08:23 pm
These are lies without any evidence to support them.  You are the Donald Trump of this forum.

Squidward you keep making up lies about things, and you're constantly insulting everyone you disagree with.  Then add your autocratic mod tendencies.  Look into the mirror and you will have a YUUUGE face staring back.

(https://c.tenor.com/GLGVEo7R1BgAAAAd/trump-uhuehue.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 11:14:31 pm
So what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhezLSecxsc

Why is an arbitrary marker like "24 weeks" relevant to anything?  23 weeks = ok, 25 weeks = bad?  That's insane.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 11:37:46 pm
So what happens when those rights collide?

People argue for decades because they both have a point.

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Why does the embryo get more rights than the actual person?

More rights, or the same rights?  When does a person become a person?

Why do most progressives keep wanting to stick sharp metal objects into people and fetuses and embryos?  Why u so stabby?

(https://www.verywellhealth.com/thmb/smZ8GsreTWLBD9Qn6xNl-ppY0NM=/500x350/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/GettyImages-1278800342-162254c52c774880aa1ff90f48b55f13.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Vacuum-aspiration_%28single%29.svg/440px-Vacuum-aspiration_%28single%29.svg.png)

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 11:41:36 pm
Except that Trucker thread 2.0 did become an abortion debate. You may have won the war but Squiggy clearly won the battle with stopping that nonsense right in its tracks.

Thread drift will not be tolerated.

Love,
Charles
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on January 31, 2022, 11:43:11 pm
Why is an arbitrary marker like "24 weeks" relevant to anything?  23 weeks = ok, 25 weeks = bad?  That's insane.
24 weeks is generally the cut off mark because that is the point where a fetus is viable (i.e. it can survive outside the womb, given current medical technology and understanding of fetal development).

ON the other hand, your "heartbeat" claim makes absolutely no difference in terms of viability... a fetus will not survive even if a heartbeat is detected, until several more months have passed.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on January 31, 2022, 11:48:37 pm
People argue for decades because they both have a point.
The majority of people who oppose abortion do so because they are religious zealots who are interpreting a book that doesn't even make direct mention of abortion.

Its the same book that tells people not to wear clothing made from 2 different types of cloth, or to eat shrimp, but if people tried to enforce those rules people would think you were nuts.
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More rights, or the same rights?  When does a person become a person?
How about when the fetus is able to survive on its own without obtaining nutrients and oxygen directly from the mother's circulatory system?

Sounds like a pretty straight forward definition to me.
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Why do most progressives keep wanting to stick sharp metal objects into people and fetuses and embryos?  Why u so stabby?
Would you prefer that we bleed people with leaches instead?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 31, 2022, 11:59:04 pm
And? So what? Why is that relevant?

Even if there is a heartbeat, the fetus is not yet viable. It does not have fully formed lungs, nor digestive system, nor other things that are necessary for something to survive independent of the mother. There is nothing magical about detecting a heart beat.

Ok so that also means that if you're in a coma and you need to be on life-support to survive but you're likely to come out of that coma in several months and be healthy you're still not currently viable so your doctor via permission from your family can stab you and suck you off the hospital bed with a giant vacuum and then throw your body into an incinerator because you have no rights and your family is worried about paying your bills.

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Disagree with abortion? Then don't get one. But for those who have no moral qualms about terminating an unwanted pregnancy, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible sky daddy who is worried about all the "unborn babies", they should be allowed the choice.

Disagree with slavery? Then don't get a slave. But for those who have no moral qualms about owning a slave, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible concept like "natural rights", they should be allowed the choice.

Disagree with the holocaust? Then don't murder Jews. But for those who have no moral qualms about murdering Jews, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible concept like "don't commit genocide", they should be allowed the choice.

Disagree with raping grandmothers? Then don't **** grandmothers. But for those who have no moral qualms about raping grandmothers, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible concept like "don't **** grandmothers", they should be allowed the choice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 01, 2022, 12:07:06 am
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And? So what? Why is that relevant?

Even if there is a heartbeat, the fetus is not yet viable. It does not have fully formed lungs, nor digestive system, nor other things that are necessary for something to survive independent of the mother. There is nothing magical about detecting a heart beat.
Ok so that also means that if you're in a coma and you need to be on life-support to survive but you're likely to come out of that coma in several months and be healthy you're still not currently viable...
Actually a coma patient is still viable in that hypothetical, because even if you need ventilators or other similar measures medical technology can keep you alive long enough to get you to the point where you can survive on your own.

But a fetus extracted from its mother at 3-4 weeks (even if a heartbeat were detected) will never survive. We don't have the medical technology for that, and probably never will.

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Disagree with slavery? Then don't get a slave. But for those who have no moral qualms about owning a slave, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible concept like "natural rights", they should be allowed the choice.

Disagree with the holocaust? Then don't murder Jews. But for those who have no moral qualms about murdering Jews, for those who do not subscribe to the idea of an invisible concept like "don't commit genocide", they should be allowed the choice.
Idiotic comparisons.

Slavery/genocide are wrong because the victims HAVE reached the point where they are whole, sentient individuals, capable of independent thoughts, and survival without being a "parasite" on another person.

A blob of cells in a mother's womb has not reached that point. It has no ability to survive without taking nutrients from the mother.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 09:34:23 am
Why is an arbitrary marker like "24 weeks" relevant to anything?  23 weeks = ok, 25 weeks = bad?  That's insane.

Why should an arbitrary developmental marker like "heartbeat" be relevant?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 09:48:45 am
People argue for decades because they both have a point.

More rights, or the same rights? 

When a woman is forced to carry a pregnancy to term, with all the physical risks, financial and emotional hardships that entails, then you have made her rights subordinate to those of a non-sentient clump of matter.

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When does a person become a person?

What is "personhood" anyway?

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Why do most progressives keep wanting to stick sharp metal objects into people and fetuses and embryos?  Why u so stabby?

Ad hominem.

anyway, here's some actual facts about abortion:

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Nine out of 10 abortions happen before 12 weeks of pregnancy in many high-income countries, while the proportion of those done under 9 weeks has risen over the past decade, reveals the first review of its kind, published online in BMJ Sexual & Reproductive Health.

What’s more, medical (drug induced) abortion accounts for at least half of all pregnancy terminations in most of these countries.

link (https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/nine-out-of-10-abortions-done-before-12-weeks-in-many-high-income-countries/)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 11:27:20 am
When a woman is forced to carry a pregnancy to term, with all the physical risks, financial and emotional hardships that entails, then you have made her rights subordinate to those of a non-sentient clump of matter.

What is "personhood" anyway?

Ad hominem.

anyway, here's some actual facts about abortion:

link (https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/nine-out-of-10-abortions-done-before-12-weeks-in-many-high-income-countries/)
Perfect.  If such a small percentage take place after 12 weeks, what’s the problem then?  You should be onboard with proposed changes.  Even just a little infanticide is still too much.  Sorry buddy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 11:27:50 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 01, 2022, 11:30:24 am
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Real truckers are vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population. And they're actually still working, and maintaining (not disrupting) the supply chain.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 11:36:09 am
Perfect.  If such a small percentage take place after 12 weeks, what’s the problem then?  You should be onboard with proposed changes.  Even just a little infanticide is still too much.  Sorry buddy.

Idiot.

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But other factors, such as mandatory waiting periods for medical abortion and healthcare professionals’ conscientious objection, can delay or prevent women from accessing timely abortion care, note the researchers.

In Italy, for example, “it is estimated that 82%-91% of providers in Rome and the surrounding areas are conscientious objectors, and abortion services are only provided in 60% of Italian hospitals,” they point out.

Unintended pregnancy rates are highest in countries that restrict abortion access and lowest in countries where abortion is broadly legal. Abortion rates are similar in countries where abortion is restricted and those where the procedure is broadly legal. So morons like you who want to regulate women's bodies are actually contributing to more abortions than those of us who want to keep it safe and accessible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 11:37:05 am
Real truckers are vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population. And they're actually still working, and maintaining (not disrupting) the supply chain.

Except for the ones who are trying to deliver goods across one of Canada's busiest border crossings who are being blocked by the chuds.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 01, 2022, 11:49:55 am
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They won't be thanking these twits.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-border-blockade-protest-alberta-1.6334990
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 11:54:24 am
This is awesome!  She brings up Trudeau blackface right to his smug POS face during question period!
https://youtu.be/9YzAw49ZjvA
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 01:25:00 pm
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 01:56:36 pm
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?

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Why not?  We give a **** about what blackface Turdeau says.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 02:12:26 pm
Why not?  We give a **** about what blackface Turdeau says.

He's the PM. She's nobody.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 02:16:17 pm
He's the PM. She's nobody.
They're both elected officials.  Hey, at least she won more votes than her opponent unlike Turdeau! LOL!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 02:25:17 pm
They're both elected officials.  Hey, at least she won more votes than her opponent unlike Turdeau! LOL!

??? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_Justin_Trudeau#2021_Federal_Election:_Papineau)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 01, 2022, 02:32:12 pm
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?

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This is one of the reasons I have begun to sour on the federal conservative party.

I do not particularly like the Liberals or Trudeau, and I do not think I could vote NDP. But I think there is a difference between a principled conservative, and some of the anti-science/Trumpish types that seem to be infecting the conservative party.

Many/most of those at the top still seem to have a modicum of rationality, but they seem to have troubles dealing with some of the nutcases in the party. Hard to vote for a conservative in my own riding when I know that they are in the same party as conservative MPs who supported anti-vax truckers.

Reminds me a little bit of people in the United States who had been republicans, and point out "I didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left me".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 02:36:52 pm
This is one of the reasons I have begun to sour on the federal conservative party.

I do not particularly like the Liberals or Trudeau, and I do not think I could vote NDP. But I think there is a difference between a principled conservative, and some of the anti-science/Trumpish types that seem to be infecting the conservative party.

Many/most of those at the top still seem to have a modicum of rationality, but they seem to have troubles dealing with some of the nutcases in the party. Hard to vote for a conservative in my own riding when I know that they are in the same party as conservative MPs who supported anti-vax truckers.

Reminds me a little bit of people in the United States who had been republicans, and point out "I didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left me".
There are plenty of principled conservatives in Ottawa. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:03:57 pm
This is one of the reasons I have begun to sour on the federal conservative party.

I do not particularly like the Liberals or Trudeau, and I do not think I could vote NDP. But I think there is a difference between a principled conservative, and some of the anti-science/Trumpish types that seem to be infecting the conservative party.

Many/most of those at the top still seem to have a modicum of rationality, but they seem to have troubles dealing with some of the nutcases in the party. Hard to vote for a conservative in my own riding when I know that they are in the same party as conservative MPs who supported anti-vax truckers.

Reminds me a little bit of people in the United States who had been republicans, and point out "I didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left me".

I don't have much sympathy given that the so-called principled conservatives have actively courted these elements for years (he PM Harper!) and now they find they can't denounce them because doing so would destroy their own electoral hopes (and get them death threats). I don't love the idea of a perennial Liberal government but that would appear to be the direction we're going as long as the Conservatives continue to kowtow to the extremists in their ranks but they have no way of breaking the grip they have on the party now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:19:12 pm
There are plenty of principled conservatives in Ottawa.

Principled MP's in Ottawa whistleblow and are then thrown out of the party.  No different in the conservative party.  If you want to have a career in Ottawa you have to play the game and shut-up when you see wrongdoing.  No different than if you're a cops, or many other positions of power.  Most of our MP's are careerist power-hungry sociopaths.  The good ones don't run for re-election because they can't take the BS.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:21:43 pm
Real truckers are vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population. And they're actually still working, and maintaining (not disrupting) the supply chain.

Canadians over age 18 are fully vaxxed at a rate of ~90%.  I have no idea how they get the 90% number for truckers but let's assume it's correct.  So it's the same.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:28:23 pm
This is awesome!  She brings up Trudeau blackface right to his smug POS face during question period!
https://youtu.be/9YzAw49ZjvA

Wow she knocked that one out of the park.

She's right.  Burning down churches, illegally vandalizing public statues, parading Nazi flags, dancing on the war memorial...any decent Canadian should be against all of these things.  It's a part of our core values.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:29:32 pm
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?

Ad hominem. Her supposed character has nothing to do with her argument.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:31:01 pm
He's the PM. She's nobody.

Ad hominem.  This has nothing to do with her argument.

Do you disagree with her argument or not?  Or do you just hate her?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:33:41 pm
This is one of the reasons I have begun to sour on the federal conservative party.

I do not particularly like the Liberals or Trudeau, and I do not think I could vote NDP. But I think there is a difference between a principled conservative, and some of the anti-science/Trumpish types that seem to be infecting the conservative party.

Many/most of those at the top still seem to have a modicum of rationality, but they seem to have troubles dealing with some of the nutcases in the party. Hard to vote for a conservative in my own riding when I know that they are in the same party as conservative MPs who supported anti-vax truckers.

Reminds me a little bit of people in the United States who had been republicans, and point out "I didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left me".

Our parties are filled with ideologues.  There are fewer and fewer moderates with any common sense.  Add bad ethics on top of it and you have a big pile of crud in Ottawa.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 03:35:43 pm
Ad hominem.  This has nothing to do with her argument.

Do you disagree with her argument or not?  Or do you just hate her?
He just doesn't like her because she was wearing a hat he doesn't like.  Quite intellectual huh?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:37:51 pm
I don't have much sympathy given that the so-called principled conservatives have actively courted these elements for years (he PM Harper!) and now they find they can't denounce them because doing so would destroy their own electoral hopes (and get them death threats). I don't love the idea of a perennial Liberal government but that would appear to be the direction we're going as long as the Conservatives continue to kowtow to the extremists in their ranks but they have no way of breaking the grip they have on the party now.

The CPC base is filled with backwards idiots and religious nutters.  They might want to try kowtowing to moderates or liberals sick of Trudeau than MAGA bible-thumpers and racist rednecks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:39:01 pm
Ad hominem. Her supposed character has nothing to do with her argument.

Yes it does.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:40:35 pm
The CPC base is filled with backwards idiots and religious nutters.  They might want to try kowtowing to moderates or liberals sick of Trudeau than MAGA bible-thumpers and racist rednecks.

Ad hominem.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:42:56 pm
Yes it does.

Attack the argument, not the person.  Let's assume she murders black people and priests in her spare time and beats her children.  Maybe she even burns down mosques and is a total hypocrite.  She was still right on that point.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:43:58 pm
Ad hominem.  This has nothing to do with her argument.

Do you disagree with her argument or not? Or do you just hate her?

Yeah I think the "both sides" argument here is stupid and depends on ignoring context.

People who threw paint on the JAM statue did so because they believed (correctly) that he was a racist responsible for the displacement and deaths of thousands of Indigenous children. The people who pissed on the war memorial did so because they are stupid drunken idiots. These are not the same thing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:45:28 pm
Attack the argument, not the person.  Let's assume she murders black people and priests in her spare time and beats her children.  Maybe she even burns down mosques and is a total hypocrite. She was still right on that point.

What point, specifically?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:46:00 pm
Ad hominem.

No it isn't.  I'm making an observation, i'm not invalidating a person's argument because of their character.  Which you also tried to do with Jordan Peterson among others.

If Hitler says the sky is blue they aren't wrong because they are a Nazi.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:52:43 pm
No it isn't.  I'm making an observation, i'm not invalidating a person's argument because of their character.  Which you also tried to do with Jordan Peterson among others.

If Hitler says the sky is blue they aren't wrong because they are a Nazi.

Referring to someone asa "backwards idiot and religious nutter" is attacking their character and not engaging the arguments.

Anyway i don't actually care i just wanted to give you a dose of your own tedious pedantry.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 03:55:49 pm
Yeah I think the "both sides" argument here is stupid and depends on ignoring context.

People who threw paint on the JAM statue did so because they believed (correctly) that he was a racist responsible for the displacement and deaths of thousands of Indigenous children. The people who pissed on the war memorial did so because they are stupid drunken idiots. These are not the same thing.

You don't know the motivations of the war memorial stompers.  Their friends were carrying Quebec flags.  They could have been Quebec nationalists who hate Candada, but we don't know 100%.

The motivations of the John A vandals and the war memorial stompers are irrelevant.  Vandalism is illegal, your supposed virtue or blood alcohol level doesn't absolve you of crimes.  If you want the statue torn down fine, then grab some signatures and petition your government or everyone get in your car and park in front of city hall with signs and flags and honk your horn.  Small groups of protestors don't get to hijack democracy and decide for everyone else how their cities are run.

Believe it or not criminals and fools exist within the ranks of every ideology, and they should all be condemned.  Stop covering for criminals just because they're on your "side", unless you don't think democracy and rule of law is your "side".

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 03:59:26 pm
You don't know the motivations of the war memorial stompers.  Their friends were carrying Quebec flags.  They could have been Quebec nationalists who hate Candada, but we don't know 100%.

The motivations of the John A vandals and the war memorial stompers are irrelevant.  Vandalism is illegal, your supposed virtue or blood alcohol level doesn't absolve you of crimes.  If you want the statue torn down fine, then grab some signatures and petition your government or everyone get in your car and park in front of city hall with signs and flags and honk your horn.  Small groups of protestors don't get to hijack democracy and decide for everyone else how their cities are run.

Believe it or not criminals and fools exist within the ranks of every ideology, and they should all be condemned.  Stop covering for criminals just because they're on your "side", unless you don't think democracy and rule of law is your "side".

The convoy you support is doing just that and you don't seem to have an issue with it. But regardless, history has shown that what's right and what is the "rule of law" are not the same thing and blind deference to the latter is for cowards.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 04:05:07 pm
What point, specifically?

That vandalism and hate is wrong regardless of the source, and most large protest movements have criminal fools like we saw in the trucker protests.  Just because some BLM protestors might light fire to businesses and loot doesn't mean all BLM protestors are bad or criminals or that all BLM'ers should be written off without listening to them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 04:11:50 pm
The convoy you support is doing just that and you don't seem to have an issue with it.

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But regardless, history has shown that what's right and what is the "rule of law" are not the same thing and blind deference to the latter is for cowards.

Agree, and history has also shown the best way to overturn bad laws is protest and voting not violence and vandalism.  One is democratically protected rights and the other lands you in jail, for good reason.

Living in a democracy means a small group of protestors don't get to decided for the majority which laws are bad or good.  If you think they should then you'd support the convoy truckers lighting Ottawa on fire and looting in order to try and force the mandate laws to change.  Toddlers throwing tantrums shouldn't get their way.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 04:13:02 pm
That vandalism and hate is wrong regardless of the source, and most large protest movements have criminal fools like we saw in the trucker protests.  Just because some BLM protestors might light fire to businesses and loot doesn't mean all BLM protestors are bad or criminals or that all BLM'ers should be written off without listening to them.

People who hid Jews from the Nazis were criminals. The freedom riders and other civil rights campaigners were criminals (and even their peaceful protests were deeply unpopular at the time). What's right and what's legal are not always the same thing and I genuinely am less interested in the fact of someone committing a crime (especially crimes against property) than I am in their reasons for doing so.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 01, 2022, 04:14:40 pm
Agree, and history has also shown the best way to overturn bad laws is protest and voting not violence and vandalism.  One is democratically protected rights and the other lands you in jail, for good reason.

LOL that is not what history shows us at all!

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Living in a democracy means a small group of protestors don't get to decided for the majority which laws are bad or good.  If you think they should then you'd support the convoy truckers lighting Ottawa on fire and looting in order to try and force the mandate laws to change.  Toddlers throwing tantrums shouldn't get their way.

Again: the why matters.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 01, 2022, 04:54:55 pm
That vandalism and hate is wrong regardless of the source, and most large protest movements have criminal fools like we saw in the trucker protests.  Just because some BLM protestors might light fire to businesses and loot doesn't mean all BLM protestors are bad or criminals or that all BLM'ers should be written off without listening to them.
Lets see now....

BLM protesters were complaining about unequal treatment of black people in society. We know that that is a problem... a string of publicized killings/shootings by officers targeting black people are evidence of that. (Also consider how sometimes laws are applied unequally. For example: despite marijuana use being roughly the same for black and white people, black people were more than twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession.)

There was a problem, nothing seemed to be done to address the problem, so people protested.

It should also be noted that even though they were widespread, the majority of protests were peaceful.

Compare that to the Trucker "freedom rally"... their protests are not based on legitimate concerns, but cries about "Mah Freedum", often accompanied by bad science and moronic rhetoric.

So one group wanting to address a real problem in society, the other wanting the right to spread a potentially deadly disease among the population.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 05:18:31 pm
Good for them!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 01, 2022, 05:57:39 pm
Good for them!

false dumbTrucker appropriation!

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 07:16:34 pm
Convoys going international!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 07:57:31 pm
People who hid Jews from the Nazis were criminals. The freedom riders and other civil rights campaigners were criminals (and even their peaceful protests were deeply unpopular at the time). What's right and what's legal are not always the same thing and I genuinely am less interested in the fact of someone committing a crime (especially crimes against property) than I am in their reasons for doing so.

Nazi Germany was a fascist totalitarian dictatorship.  There was no way to change the anti-Jew laws or stop them from being thrown in the gas chambers.  We live in a democracy and we have a Charter of Rights.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion in a democracy.  Your opinion of what should be legal or not isn't any more important or righteous than anyone else's, that's decided by democracy. 

Floyd rioters didn't organize a giant protest rally in Washington DC or Minnesota like MLK did, they went straight to the riots and looting.  I have more respect for civil disobedience like Rosa Parks than lashing out in anger via violence and destruction.  I have a lot of respect for MLK and Gandhi.  Sometimes they broke the law but avoided actions with negative energy and violence and remained peaceful but got results.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 08:08:03 pm
Lets see now....

BLM protesters were complaining about unequal treatment of black people in society. We know that that is a problem... a string of publicized killings/shootings by officers targeting black people are evidence of that. (Also consider how sometimes laws are applied unequally. For example: despite marijuana use being roughly the same for black and white people, black people were more than twice as likely to be arrested for simple possession.)

There was a problem, nothing seemed to be done to address the problem, so people protested.

It should also be noted that even though they were widespread, the majority of protests were peaceful.

Compare that to the Trucker "freedom rally"... their protests are not based on legitimate concerns, but cries about "Mah Freedum", often accompanied by bad science and moronic rhetoric.

So one group wanting to address a real problem in society, the other wanting the right to spread a potentially deadly disease among the population.

What you think of the righteousness of a protest is 100% irrelevant.  You don't get to get away with violence, arson, vandalism etc because you think your cause is righteous.  Every protestor in the history of protests thinks their cause is righteous.

Protesting peacefully is a protected act (speech) and is very different than violent and destructive acts.  People have double-standards because of their political biases and its nonsense.

I 100% support the peaceful BLM protests btw.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 01, 2022, 08:14:19 pm
What you think of the righteousness of a protest is 100% irrelevant.  You don't get to get away with violence, arson, vandalism etc because you think your cause is righteous.  Every protestor in the history of protests thinks their cause is righteous.

Protesting peacefully is a protected act (speech) and is very different than violent and destructive acts.  People have double-standards because of their political biases and its nonsense.

I 100% support the peaceful BLM protests btw.

The truckers weren’t peaceful. They ran around hotels unmasked, harassed/assaulted homeless, harassed staff and blocked roads.

The truckers are like childish anarchists.  With a hint of white supremacy and imported MAGA nonsense.

The police should have been much more prepared.  I have a relative who manages a large hotel in downtown. The hotel tried to trespass dozens of them and refuse them service, but police weren’t responding.  That’s not a peaceful protest.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 08:31:58 pm
The truckers weren’t peaceful. They ran around hotels unmasked, harassed/assaulted homeless, harassed staff and blocked roads.

The truckers are like childish anarchists.  With a hint of white supremacy and imported MAGA nonsense.

The police should have been much more prepared.  I have a relative who manages a large hotel in downtown. The hotel tried to trespass dozens of them and refuse them service, but police weren’t responding.  That’s not a peaceful protest.

The protesters that broke laws or harassed people I condemn and so should we all.  What % of the protesters were peaceful?  Like 95%?  The number of large protests this size that's 100% peaceful has to be close to 0%.

You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 08:49:01 pm
The protesters that broke laws or harassed people I condemn and so should we all.  What % of the protesters were peaceful?  Like 95%?  The number of large protests this size that's 100% peaceful has to be close to 0%.

You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.
I also condemn anyone that broke any laws, but it’s funny how you’re not allowed to paint large groups of people with a so-called broad brush, unless it’s conservatives.   It’s also interesting that the pearl clutchers now so concerned with statues monuments and businesses didn’t give a damn about all of this during left wing riots and protests in 2020.  They have zero credibility.  It’s just an attempt to silence people they disagree with now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 01, 2022, 09:12:08 pm
You keep trying to paint all the protesters with a single brush based on a small minority of troublemakers.  Your arguments are in bad faith and dishonest.  Stop making up lies.  We get it, a small% of protesters were jerks, what's your point?  That this was everyone?  That's factually incorrect and you can't handle it.

I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 09:59:16 pm
I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?
How did you calculate your ratio?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 10:02:29 pm
Too good!  Ottawa mayor reportedly called tow trucks in Ottawa to start towing trucks and other vehicles of the convoy.  They refused!  😂

No justice, no peace!  But don’t worry Branch Covidians, they’ll only be around for 14 days.  No longer than that.  I’m sure you can put up with a little disruption, no? 🤣
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 01, 2022, 10:30:53 pm
The protests are working.  Quebec has decided against the vaccine tax.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 01, 2022, 11:03:01 pm
The protests are working.  Quebec has decided against the vaccine tax.

That was always doomed to fail. Their legal analysts told them they'd probably end up in court, and their political analysts told them that they'd pay for it at the polls. It was a bluff that got some more people to get vaccinated. The Quebec government doesn't give a **** about some angry anglos driving around Ottawa. If anything, they probably think it's hilarious.

Gyms are open in BC again. The #FluTrucksKlan didn't do that either.  The health order expired and the numbers don't warrant renewing it.

There was a bunch of polling last week showing that increasing numbers of people are "over it".  Those polls were conducted before the trucks even left for Ottawa. The dumbass rednecks in Ottawa are probably doing more harm than good for their cause.

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 01, 2022, 11:48:23 pm
I'm very curious how you calculated your ratio and what you consider to be an acceptable percentage of **** in a crowd before it becomes a problem?

There's **** in every crowd, and every one of these mass-disturbance protests creates a problem for somebody.

I think there's a tendency for people to rationalize/excuse/minimize the problems created by protests they're sympathetic to, while harshly critical of protests they don't support.  The people blocking the Alberta border crossing at Coutts were probably mad as hell when the native pipeline protesters disrupted rail freight in 2020, for instance.

I think that all of these mass-disturbance protests do more harm than good to the cause they're intended to support.

I saw a clip from England a while back where environmental protesters had blocked off a roadway and there was a woman screaming for them to let her through so that she could get her mother to the hospital.  Unless you're completely unhinged, when you watch something like that your thoughts are "what if it was my mom who needed to get to the hospital and I couldn't get her there?"   "What if my kid was working at that Starbucks when those hooligans smashed it up?"  "What if it was my store that was looted or burned down?" "What if it was my kid who those anti-mask idiots were threatening?"

Normal sane people don't empathize with the cause warriors in these situations, no matter how noble the cause.  Normal sane people empathize with the people who are just trying to live their lives or do their jobs and find themselves in these situations through no fault of their own.


 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 01, 2022, 11:58:37 pm
Too good!  Ottawa mayor reportedly called tow trucks in Ottawa to start towing trucks and other vehicles of the convoy.  They refused!  😂

Jokes on them, tow trucks are trucks too!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 01, 2022, 11:58:51 pm
We're supposed to give a **** what MAGA Murphy Brown has to say?

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If that guy is going to broad-brush people as "racists and misogynists" then it is entirely on-point to remind everyone who he is.

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 09:26:07 am
Nazi Germany was a fascist totalitarian dictatorship.  There was no way to change the anti-Jew laws or stop them from being thrown in the gas chambers.  We live in a democracy and we have a Charter of Rights.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion in a democracy.  Your opinion of what should be legal or not isn't any more important or righteous than anyone else's, that's decided by democracy. 

Floyd rioters didn't organize a giant protest rally in Washington DC or Minnesota like MLK did, they went straight to the riots and looting.

That's a lie. Protests in Minneapolis were peaceful until the point cops started firing rubber bullets and teargas into the crowd. Oh and don't forget one of the people seen instigating violence by smashing windows at an auto parts store was later identified as a white supremacist agent provocateur.

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I have more respect for civil disobedience like Rosa Parks than lashing out in anger via violence and destruction. I have a lot of respect for MLK and Gandhi.  Sometimes they broke the law but avoided actions with negative energy and violence and remained peaceful but got results.

They were two important figures that were part of much larger movements that encompassed a wide range of tactics, including violent resistance.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 09:43:49 am
If that guy is going to broad-brush people as "racists and misogynists" then it is entirely on-point to remind everyone who he is.

 -k

I think wearing a MAGA hat now says a lot more about her character now than someone wearing blackface 20 years ago says about theirs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 09:45:38 am
I also condemn anyone that broke any laws, but it’s funny how you’re not allowed to paint large groups of people with a so-called broad brush, unless it’s conservatives.   It’s also interesting that the pearl clutchers now so concerned with statues monuments and businesses didn’t give a damn about all of this during left wing riots and protests in 2020.  They have zero credibility.  It’s just an attempt to silence people they disagree with now.

I haven't seen you condemn any of the disruption, damage, assaults, threats caused by the convoy people. At last Graham has, you're a complete hack.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 09:50:25 am
I haven't seen you condemn any of the disruption, damage, assaults, threats caused by the convoy people. At last Graham has, you're a complete hack.
I haven’t seen you condemn anything from your sides protests and riots in 2020.  You also haven’t said a word about the statues destroyed like John A MacDonald.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 09:54:05 am
There's **** in every crowd, and every one of these mass-disturbance protests creates a problem for somebody.

I think there's a tendency for people to rationalize/excuse/minimize the problems created by protests they're sympathetic to, while harshly critical of protests they don't support.  The people blocking the Alberta border crossing at Coutts were probably mad as hell when the native pipeline protesters disrupted rail freight in 2020, for instance.

Related:

Convoy Organizers Previously Targeted Striking Oil Refinery Workers in Alberta
 (https://pressprogress.ca/anti-vax-convoy-organizers-previously-targeted-striking-oil-refinery-workers-in-alberta/)

Also you don't have to be sympathetic one way or another to see that different groups get different treatment. Pipeline protesters were met with police in tactical gear, homeless people doing nothing but camping in parks in Toronto had their stuff destroyed and were driven out by cops on horseback wielding batons. These convoy people are getting selfies with and thumbs up from the local piggies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 09:55:04 am
I haven’t seen you condemn anything from your sides protests and riots in 2020.  You also haven’t said a word about the statues destroyed like John A MacDonald.

Then you're blind as well as stupid.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 10:00:20 am
I think wearing a MAGA hat now says a lot more about her character now than someone wearing blackface 20 years ago says about theirs.
I don’t think it does.  I guess we can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 10:07:49 am
I don’t think it does.  I guess we can agree to disagree.

This is nine words too long.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 10:49:55 am
CPC gang continue to show their whole asses

https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/1228108588696121344?s=20&t=G-e9umvAYRAzOheT4bxdcg
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 10:58:37 am
The honking will continue until freedom improves.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 11:00:16 am
The honking will continue until freedom improves.

You cry about lockdowns but support these **** making life hell for people and businesses in Ottawa, choking off the Coutts border crossing and disrupting highway traffic. F*ck you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 11:07:51 am
You cry about lockdowns but support these **** making life hell for people and businesses in Ottawa, choking off the Coutts border crossing and disrupting highway traffic. F*ck you.
I'm sorry, are you inconvenienced?  Now you know how it feels.  You're welcome.  Don't worry, though, it's only gonna be for 14 days, to flatten the curve.  Not a single day longer.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 11:10:56 am
I'm sorry, are you inconvenienced?  Now you know how it feels.  You're welcome.  Don't worry, though, it's only gonna be for 14 days, to flatten the curve.  Not a single day longer.

F*ck off and die.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 11:12:35 am
F*ck off and die.
Right, you ok with other people being inconvenienced and their lives impacted, in a much greater way.  When it happens to  you for even just a few days, you lose your mind.  Lesson learned.  Perhaps you'll have a little more sympathy for people in the future.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 02, 2022, 11:21:46 am
Floyd rioters didn't organize a giant protest rally in Washington DC or Minnesota like MLK did, they went straight to the riots and looting.
There may not have been as much of this happening as you might think from media reports.

Quote
About 93 percent of the racial-justice protests that swept the United States this summer remained peaceful and nondestructive, according to a report released Thursday, with the violence and property damage that has dominated political discourse constituting only a minute portion of the thousands of demonstrations that followed the killing of George Floyd in May....

...Using media accounts and other public information, the report identified 7,750 protests from May 26 through Aug. 22 that were linked to the Black Lives Matter movement. The protests took place in 2,400 locations across all 50 states and the District...

...The group identified about 220 locations where the protests became “violent,” which authors of the report defined as demonstrators clashing with police or counterprotesters or causing property damage.

Even in those cases, however, the upheaval was “largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city,” the report states...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-united-states-is-in-crisis-report-tracks-thousands-of-summer-protests-most-nonviolent/2020/09/03/b43c359a-edec-11ea-99a1-71343d03bc29_story.html

This actually makes it sound more like an example of civil restraint considering how many thousands of protests involving millions of people across the entire nation there were.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 11:25:30 am
Right, you ok with other people being inconvenienced and their lives impacted, in a much greater way.  When it happens to  you for even just a few days, you lose your mind.  Lesson learned.  Perhaps you'll have a little more sympathy for people in the future.

Didn't I just tell you to **** off and die?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 11:30:12 am
Didn't I just tell you to **** off and die?
*Shrug*
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 11:39:03 am
*Shrug*

Yeah that shows the depth of your actual conviction. You don't care about people being harmed unless you can spin it as a way to own the libs. That you have the temerity to call anyone else a hypocrite shows you have no self awareness, critical thinking or indeed, two brain cells to rub together.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 11:44:08 am
Yeah that shows the depth of your actual conviction. You don't care about people being harmed unless you can spin it as a way to own the libs. That you have the temerity to call anyone else a hypocrite shows you have no self awareness, critical thinking or indeed, two brain cells to rub together.
Complete nonsense.  You're getting a small taste of the inconvenience that you've been perfectly authoritarian in forcing on to other people.  And even a small short taste of it makes you lose your mind.  You're the one who's a hypocrite.  You'll dish out the most restrictive policies and laugh off any complaints from the people affected by them, while at the same time losing your mind over some trucks gathering and honking for a few days.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 11:51:44 am
Complete nonsense.  You're getting a small taste of the inconvenience that you've been perfectly authoritarian in forcing on to other people.  And even a small short taste of it makes you lose your mind.  You're the one who's a hypocrite.  You'll dish out the most restrictive policies and laugh off any complaints from the people affected by them, while at the same time losing your mind over some trucks gathering and honking for a few days.

I don't remember anyone who wanted COVID restrictions supporting threatening or assaulting people who didn't wear masks. I don't remember anyone showing up to antivaxxers houses to honk horns at all hours. And of course most of us smart people supported things like CERB and eviction moratoriums to minimize the negative impacts of the lockdowns across society, whereas you support making people's lives more difficult as an end to itself, so you don't really have a leg to stand on, prick.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 12:01:35 pm
very fine people:

Ottawa homeless shelter staff harassed by convoy protesters demanding food (https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-homeless-shelter-staff-harassed-by-convoy-protesters-demanding-food-1.5760423)

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"Staff and volunteers were verbally harassed by people who came to the kitchen looking for meals. We also had a situation where the trucks were blocking our drop-off in front the shelter, which is where police and paramedics come to bring people to us for care," she said. "That was blocked and that could have cost somebody a life."

"One of the people who used services in the shelter was assaulted," she said. "My understanding is that our security guard was able to diffuse the situation. Unfortunately, that person was subjected to racial slurs from the people who were assaulting the person who is using our services, but they were able to bring that person back to the shelter."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 12:18:16 pm
very fine people:

Ottawa homeless shelter staff harassed by convoy protesters demanding food (https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-homeless-shelter-staff-harassed-by-convoy-protesters-demanding-food-1.5760423)
Yes, there are always a-holes that are a part of any protest.  Did you ever see the Antifa/BLM types going into restaurants and harassing patrons while they were eating?  Just wondering.  Did you ever say anything.  Just wondering again.  Or did you wait until you finally found a political protest you didn't agree with?  It's the latter right?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 12:39:18 pm
Yes, there are always a-holes that are a part of any protest. Did you ever see the Antifa/BLM types going into restaurants and harassing patrons while they were eating?  Just wondering.  Did you ever say anything.  Just wondering again.  Or did you wait until you finally found a political protest you didn't agree with?  It's the latter right?

No, I can't say I did.

Of course, if that did happen, did they threaten people? Yell racial slurs at them? Physically assault them? Steal their food?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 12:46:03 pm
No, I can't say I did.

Of course, if that did happen, did they threaten people? Yell racial slurs at them? Physically assault them? Steal their food?
Why am I not surprised.  Yes to all your questions.  Imagine if it was convoy protesters!?  You would lose your mind again.

https://youtu.be/fA-mbSkQM6M

https://youtu.be/dSnTTND0UcM

https://youtu.be/wP1JU8aZJ54

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 12:54:40 pm
Why am I not surprised.  Yes to all your questions.  Imagine if it was convoy protesters!?  You would lose your mind again.

Yeah that's shitty. Big distinction though is that harassment and threats are an intrinsic part of the anti-vaxx protest, not an unfortunate byproduct.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 12:58:14 pm
No, I can't say I did.

Of course, if that did happen, did they threaten people? Yell racial slurs at them? Physically assault them? Steal their food?
LOL! 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 01:36:38 pm
LOL!

Remember that BLM peaceful protests were met with rubber bullets, tear gas and batons, while the convoy **** get free rain to threaten, harass, intimidate people, damage property etc etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 02:05:33 pm
Remember that BLM peaceful protests were met with rubber bullets, tear gas and batons, while the convoy **** get free rain to threaten, harass, intimidate people, damage property etc etc.
Is that when they set fire to the church?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 02:26:45 pm
Is that when they set fire to the church?

So you're fine with tear gassing and bludgeoning people at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day?

idiot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 02:30:57 pm
So you're fine with tear gassing and bludgeoning people at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day?

idiot.
That's completely debunked fake news.  Try again son. 

Trump photo op at church wasn't why Lafayette Square was cleared
There is only one problem with this narrative, which received wall-to-wall coverage on outrage-addled cable news shows and was pasted on the front pages of newspapers across the country: An independent investigation by the inspector general of the Interior Department has concluded it wasn’t true.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-photo-op-church-wasn-t-why-lafayette-square-was-ncna1270502

You guys have been part of this echo chamber so long that you actually think a bunch of the fake news stories from the past few years are true.  But damn that Joe Rogan for disseminating misinformation right! LOL
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 02:43:07 pm
That's completely debunked fake news.  Try again son. 

Trump photo op at church wasn't why Lafayette Square was cleared

You guys have been part of this echo chamber so long that you actually think a bunch of the fake news stories from the past few years are true.  But damn that Joe Rogan for disseminating misinformation right! LOL

I didn't say anything about Trump being the reason, only that a peaceful protest was violently disrupted by police, which your article (and video and eyewitness evidence) confirms.

Quote
The protesters were instead removed “to allow a contractor to safely install anti-scale fencing in response to destruction of Federal property and injury to officers that occurred on May 30 and May 31” during other Black Lives Matter protests."

Looks like we have another Shady Self-Own(tm) here. Goddamn, you suck at this.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 03:03:17 pm
I didn't say anything about Trump being the reason, only that a peaceful protest was violently disrupted by police, which your article (and video and eyewitness evidence) confirms.

Looks like we have another Shady Self-Own(tm) here. Goddamn, you suck at this.
Sure buddy.  You got owned, and now you're moving the goal posts.  Kind of like when I destroyed your Republican voting restrictions argument.  Too much time in your echo chamber.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 03:21:02 pm
Sure buddy.  You got owned, and now you're moving the goal posts.  Kind of like when I destroyed your Republican voting restrictions argument.  Too much time in your echo chamber.

me: "So you're fine with tear gassing and bludgeoning people at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day?"
You: *posts link explicitly proving people were tear gassed and bludgeoned at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day* Ha ha gotcha.

Truly next level dumbassery on par with the time you said that slavery wasn't mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 03:24:40 pm
me: "So you're fine with tear gassing and bludgeoning people at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day?"
You: *posts link explicitly proving people were tear gassed and bludgeoned at a peaceful protest because some other people did something else on a different day* Ha ha gotcha.

Truly next level dumbassery on par with the time you said that slavery wasn't mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.
The only instance of tear gassing etc peaceful protest was at Lafayette Square.  That's it.  Stop making up your own news.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 03:27:32 pm
The only instance of tear gassing etc peaceful protest was at Lafayette Square.  That's it.  Stop making up your own news.

Even if that were true (and it's not) so what? You thought I was making some reference to Trump, thought you had a gotcha and posted a link that proved my point. This is like the 10th time you've done this, I'm starting to think you have a humiliation kink.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 03:28:40 pm
Even if that were true (and it's not)
It absolutely IS true.  Give it a rest already.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 03:35:52 pm
It absolutely IS true.  Give it a rest already.

There's plenty of examples, but I only need one to prove you wrong:

An Intercept and SITU reconstruction of an incident in North Carolina last June shows police intentionally trapped and tear-gassed hundreds of peaceful protesters.
 (https://theintercept.com/2021/06/02/kettling-protests-charlotte-police/)

(edit) here's a few more just for the hell of it.

"A federal judge has ordered police in Columbus, Ohio, to stop using force including tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets against nonviolent protesters, ruling that officers ran "amok" during last summer's protests  (https://www.npr.org/2021/05/02/992890494/judge-says-columbus-police-ran-amok-against-protesters-restricts-use-of-force)of the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis."

New report focuses on San Luis Obispo Police Department's use of tear gas to disperse BLM protest
 (https://www.ksby.com/news/local-news/new-report-focuses-on-san-luis-obispo-police-departments-use-of-tear-gas-to-disperse-blm-protest)

Bodycam footage shows police hunting protesters with rubber bullets
 (https://nypost.com/2021/10/07/bodycam-video-shows-minneapolis-cops-hunting-protesters/)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 03:55:39 pm
Ottawa mayor says ticketing, towing protesters could incite them (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-protest-convoy-length-ticket-tow-mayor-1.6333497)

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Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson says the threat of violence has been too great to actively force convoy protesters, and their vehicles parked in and around downtown Ottawa, to leave.

I guess cops are only good at using force when there's no chance of people actually fighting back.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 05:21:28 pm
This sums the up the fake outrage by leftist hypocrites perfectly!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 02, 2022, 05:44:57 pm
You don't find it it insulting to your intelligence that a cartoonist woukd embody "the Left" in one individual? It's like he thinks you're stupid and is taking advantage of you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 02, 2022, 05:50:33 pm
Well, I'm part of 'the left' and I don't really agree with ripping down statues during protests. I'm not even sure it's fair to judge people in the past by today's standards, but I digress...

I do find it funny that 'the right' doesn't get the difference in ripping down statues because they are protesting THE **** STATUE vs. defacing the statue of an apolitical Canadian hero just because you're a vandal and a total jackass.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 02, 2022, 06:07:53 pm
Ottawa mayor says ticketing, towing protesters could incite them (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-protest-convoy-length-ticket-tow-mayor-1.6333497)

I guess cops are only good at using force when there's no chance of people actually fighting back.

Yes I agree.  Which is also why people were burning down and looting cities often with little resistance from cops.  And the same with Jan. 6.

Clearly cops won't fight angry protesting mobs because they aren't suicidal.  Therefore, if people ever want to fight back against the government, form angry protesting mobs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 06:14:15 pm
This sums the up the fake outrage by leftist hypocrites perfectly!

If you're a moron, yeah.

JAM was a racist responsible for the deaths of thousands. Terry Fox was a hero. They are not the same.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 02, 2022, 06:15:29 pm
Remember that BLM peaceful protests were met with rubber bullets, tear gas and batons, while the convoy **** get free rain to threaten, harass, intimidate people, damage property etc etc.

Except when the BLM'ers got destructive.

I'm not taking sides here btw, i'm just showing you how hypocritical you are.

If the rioting and looting BLM'ers were convoy truckers they'd be called terrorists.  I mean look at what people are saying about them after no damage or vandalism and a several mouthy people
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 06:15:59 pm
Well, I'm part of 'the left' and I don't really agree with ripping down statues during protests. I'm not even sure it's fair to judge people in the past by today's standards, but I digress...

I do find it funny that 'the right' doesn't get the difference in ripping down statues because they are protesting THE **** STATUE vs. defacing the statue of an apolitical Canadian hero just because you're a vandal and a total jackass.

The idea that the left just hates statues in general is so funny.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 02, 2022, 06:16:55 pm
If you're a moron, yeah.

JAM was a racist responsible for the deaths of thousands. Terry Fox was a hero. They are not the same.

True.  Also not the same:  destroying a statue vs putting a hat on one.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 06:20:16 pm
Except when the BLM'ers got destructive.

I'm not taking sides here btw, i'm just showing you how hypocritical you are.

What's hypocritical about want ing the cops to bring the same energy to  these "peaceful" truckers they brought to the peaceful BLM marches or the homeless encampments or the Indiginous blockades?

Quote
If the rioting and looting BLM'ers were convoy truckers they'd be called terrorists. 

Yeah man no one ever called the BLM movement terrorists. Come on dude.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 02, 2022, 06:22:07 pm
True.  Also not the same:  destroying a statue vs putting a hat on one.

Yeah I think the people complaining about it being "defaced" were being silly.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 02, 2022, 06:58:13 pm
What's hypocritical about want ing the cops to bring the same energy to  these "peaceful" truckers they brought to the peaceful BLM marches or the homeless encampments or the Indiginous blockades?

Fair enough.  I'd have no problem if they gave them parking tickets or whatever.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 02, 2022, 09:15:17 pm
True.  Also not the same:  destroying a statue vs putting a hat on one.

They also put their perverted notions of ‘freedom’ as a sign on his statue.

Terry Fox had cancer. If he were alive I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be team “let ‘er rip”.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 09:40:10 pm
Sums it up pretty well.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 02, 2022, 09:52:23 pm
That's inaccurate. I saw them parade through Winnipeg myself. It was all Stars and Bars, **** Trudeau, and swastikas scrawled on maple leaves. Nothing about peace and love whatsoever.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 02, 2022, 10:03:41 pm
That's inaccurate. I saw them parade through Winnipeg myself. It was all Stars and Bars, **** Trudeau, and swastikas scrawled on maple leaves. Nothing about peace and love whatsoever.

This is unsubstantiated.  I don't even understand what a swastika or confederate flag has to do with vaccine mandates anyways so those people are double ridiculous.

Yeah nothing about peace and love.  But look at all these bastards!

https://i.insider.com/61f840f5415c3f0018d3c6ef?width=2000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 02, 2022, 10:44:52 pm
That's inaccurate. I saw them parade through Winnipeg myself. It was all Stars and Bars, **** Trudeau, and swastikas scrawled on maple leaves. Nothing about peace and love whatsoever.
Well if you saw then it must be true and representative of everyone in the protest obviously!  Btw, any use of swastikas is an attempt at saying the government is acting like nazis, it’s not in support of nazis.  I don’t condone that, but that’s what it’s in reference to.  I figured I’d mention it since you people seem to have trouble figuring that out.  Any confederate flags might be apt as well since Trudeau thinks people are his property.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 09:45:00 am
Fair enough.  I'd have no problem if they gave them parking tickets or whatever.

Or driving bulldozers through the blockade.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 11:20:04 am
Well if you saw then it must be true and representative of everyone in the protest obviously!  Btw, any use of swastikas is an attempt at saying the government is acting like nazis, it’s not in support of nazis.  I don’t condone that, but that’s what it’s in reference to.  I figured I’d mention it since you people seem to have trouble figuring that out.  Any confederate flags might be apt as well since Trudeau thinks people are his property.

Thanks for reminding everyone that we're dealing with a bunch of hysterical drama queens cosplaying as real victims.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 11:32:58 am
Thanks for reminding everyone that we're dealing with a bunch of hysterical drama queens cosplaying as real victims.
No, that’s Branch Covidians.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 11:37:03 am
No, that’s Branch Covidians.

(https://styles.redditmedia.com/t5_43g6e3/styles/communityIcon_rvy19sre5nm61.png)

Your buddies are out there wearing yellow stars and you're comparing team to slaves, you all need a good kick in the ass.



Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 12:10:21 pm
(https://styles.redditmedia.com/t5_43g6e3/styles/communityIcon_rvy19sre5nm61.png)

Your buddies are out there wearing yellow stars and you're comparing team to slaves, you all need a good kick in the ass.
If you don't have control over your own body, you essentially are a slave.  Did you say the same thing to the abortion activists that dress like the handsmaid's tale?  Or is that another Black Dog double-standard?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 12:24:55 pm
If you don't have control over your own body, you essentially are a slave. Did you say the same thing to the abortion activists that dress like the handsmaid's tale?  Or is that another Black Dog double-standard?

Don't you ever get tired of spouting the same fake bullcrap?

None of you or these convoy goons are oppressed or have any idea of what real oppression is like. Just a bunch of soft boys.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 03, 2022, 12:52:03 pm
{a part of} the 'Saskatchewan caucus' showing blatant support for the, "in search of freedum" trucker convoy! Certainly a most welcome sight for the ~50K downtown Ottawa residents under siege...
 
(https://i.imgur.com/RYiscWX.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 12:59:08 pm
{a part of} the 'Saskatchewan caucus' showing blatant support for the, "in search of freedum" trucker convoy! Certainly a most welcome sight for the ~50K downtown Ottawa residents under siege...
 
(https://i.imgur.com/RYiscWX.jpg)
No justice no peace.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 01:10:02 pm
Well if you saw then it must be true and representative of everyone in the protest obviously!  Btw, any use of swastikas is an attempt at saying the government is acting like nazis, it’s not in support of nazis.  I don’t condone that, but that’s what it’s in reference to.  I figured I’d mention it since you people seem to have trouble figuring that out.  Any confederate flags might be apt as well since Trudeau thinks people are his property.

Those idiots wouldn't know a real NAZI if they fell over one. What bothers me is why aren't these people being called out and told to get lost by other protesters. If I was holding a protest for something I would be really pissed if a bunch of NAZI's showed up and tried to catch a ride on what I was doing.

"A man is known by the company he keeps"

Aesop
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 01:15:04 pm
Those idiots wouldn't know a real NAZI if they fell over one. What bothers me is why aren't these people being called out and told to get lost by other protesters. If I was holding a protest for something I would be really pissed if a bunch of NAZI's showed up and tried to catch a ride on what I was doing.

"A man is known by the company he keeps"

Aesop
They have been called out in some cases.  There's been video posted online of somebody wearing a mask and holding a nazi flag being told to leave by several protesters.  Unfortunately, you can't physically make somebody leave a public area.  That's called assault. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 01:19:30 pm
They have been called out in some cases.  There's been video posted online of somebody wearing a mask and holding a nazi flag being told to leave by several protesters.  Unfortunately, you can't physically make somebody leave a public area.  That's called assault.

Yeah the same idiots were also saying that guy was a false flag because they can't acknowledge the reality that the movement is a magnet for the far right, much like you cannot acknowledge that no one is having their bodily autonomy violated by vaccine mandates. Again, always the victims.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 01:21:17 pm
They have been called out in some cases.  There's been video posted online of somebody wearing a mask and holding a nazi flag being told to leave by several protesters.  Unfortunately, you can't physically make somebody leave a public area.  That's called assault.

You can make it so unpleasant for them that they decide to leave.
Regardless, the protesters will wear this association.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 01:21:53 pm
Yeah the same idiots were also saying that guy was a false flag because they can't acknowledge the reality that the movement is a magnet for the far right, much like you cannot acknowledge that no one is having their bodily autonomy violated by vaccine mandates. Again, always the victims.
So what?  The BLM movement is a magnet for the far left.  Stop picking and choosing your outrage you hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 03, 2022, 01:25:29 pm
So what?  The BLM movement is a magnet for the far left.  Stop picking and choosing your outrage you hypocrite.
He doesn't sound outraged at all. Nothing like the outrage you have expressed about BLM protests. Project much?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 01:29:53 pm
So what?  The BLM movement is a magnet for the far left.  Stop picking and choosing your outrage you hypocrite.

So? Why would I, a leftist, care about that? It really is incredible how stupid you are that you think my issue here is with the mere fact of this protest and not the cause they are promoting and the people who are involved. It's the same as you thinking the statue thing is about people objecting to public art.

Here''s the difference between you and I (aside from me having probably 100 IQ points on you): I've never made any pretense of being objective or interested in balance so your claims of hypocrisy are empty. Whereas you feign objectivity (though no one is fooled) so your claims of hypocrisy merely reflect right back on you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 01:30:44 pm
So what?  The BLM movement is a magnet for the far left.  Stop picking and choosing your outrage you hypocrite.

He is just doing what you do.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 01:49:12 pm
He is just doing what you do.
Or am I doing what he does?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 01:51:45 pm
So? Why would I, a leftist, care about that? It really is incredible how stupid you are that you think my issue here is with the mere fact of this protest and not the cause they are promoting and the people who are involved. It's the same as you thinking the statue thing is about people objecting to public art.

Here''s the difference between you and I (aside from me having probably 100 IQ points on you): I've never made any pretense of being objective or interested in balance so your claims of hypocrisy are empty. Whereas you feign objectivity (though no one is fooled) so your claims of hypocrisy merely reflect right back on you.
Yes I get it.  You’re an authoritarian and anyone that protests in opposition is a disgusting sub-human to you.  Anyone that acknowledges basic fundamental rights is to be excoriated.  Your views are not compatible with a free society.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 02:13:25 pm
Yes I get it.  You’re an authoritarian and anyone that protests in opposition is a disgusting sub-human to you. Anyone that acknowledges basic fundamental rights is to be excoriated.  Your views are not compatible with a free society.

You are completely incapable of articulating what "fundamental rights" are being violated, by whom and how. As such there's no reason for anyone to take your tantrum seriously.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 02:44:21 pm
Or am I doing what he does?

You can't accuse others of being inconsistent if you aren't consistent yourself.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 03:20:44 pm
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"Our message to the citizens of Ottawa is one of empathy," wrote Chris Barber, who said he's a senior convoy leader in a Wednesday morning news release.

"We understand your frustration and genuinely wish there was another way for us to get our message across, but the responsibility for your inconvenience lies squarely on the shoulders of politicians who have [preferred] to vilify and call us names rather than engage in respectful, serious dialogue."

Nothing says "respectful, serious dialogue" like **** Trudeau flags, street harassment, pissing and crapping on the streets, assaulting homeless people and demanding the government resign.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 03, 2022, 03:47:29 pm
Nothing says "respectful, serious dialogue" like **** Trudeau flags, street harassment, pissing and crapping on the streets, assaulting homeless people and demanding the government resign.

You forgot about the threats to hang Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 03:55:09 pm
You can't accuse others of being inconsistent if you aren't consistent yourself.
How have I been inconsistent?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 05:06:52 pm
6th day of protest in Ottawa.  Don’t worry, only 8 more days to slow the spread.  Just a little more inconvenience.  Then that’ll be it, I promise.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 03, 2022, 05:33:26 pm
6th day of protest in Ottawa.  Don’t worry, only 8 more days to slow the spread.  Just a little more inconvenience.  Then that’ll be it, I promise.

Down to around 200 chuds now. GoFundMe campaign suspended. Trucks getting egged by pissed off residents. Not going too great.

(edit)

Oh I spoke too soon, apparently the Queen herself  (https://twitter.com/CarymaRules/status/1489308485766418432?s=20&t=n3l81bVdPjMYaPg3ld3nnQ)has arrived on the scene!

lol what a pack of loons.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 05:45:43 pm
Down to around 200 chuds now. GoFundMe campaign suspended. Trucks getting egged by pissed off residents. Not going too great.

(edit)

Oh I spoke too soon, apparently the Queen herself  (https://twitter.com/CarymaRules/status/1489308485766418432?s=20&t=n3l81bVdPjMYaPg3ld3nnQ)has arrived on the scene!

lol what a pack of loons.
GoFundMe has unsuspended much to your authoritarian chagrin.  Yeah, only loons care about civil liberties and guaranteed rights.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 05:46:38 pm
These people need to be stopped!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 05:47:28 pm
The horror!
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 03, 2022, 07:01:35 pm
Even terrorists love hockey...

And even the National Post is trying to distance itself from the convoy nonsense.

https://nationalpost.com/news/as-trucker-protest-shifts-from-convoy-to-siege-on-parliament-a-struggle-for-hearts-minds-and-message
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Sloly said police had evidence of “a significant element from the United States in the funding and organizing” of the protest. He did not elaborate.

Highlighting a dilemma facing organizers, even as they called for the protest to be “peaceful in conduct,” it is attracting extremist supporters.

The Domestic Terror Threat Monitor by MEMRI, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit terrorism tracking organization, compiled numerous online posts in support of the convoy that also called for violence and attacks on politicians, public health officials and the media.

In a Telegram channel run in the name of Pat King, a user posted a “fantasy league” poll on how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be punished, with a majority selecting death by hanging over prison ****, according to MEMRI’s report.

On Poast, which describes itself as an anonymous social network, several users called for Trudeau’s death along with support for the convoy in an explicitly White Supremacist channel.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 09:22:26 pm
How have I been inconsistent?
Simple, you criticize people for condemning this protest while not doing the same for BLM protests while doing exactly the opposite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 03, 2022, 09:24:20 pm
It's depressing watching the CPC write Liberal attack adds for free.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 03, 2022, 10:43:14 pm
Ah, breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck. You gotta copy on me, Pig Pen, c'mon? Ah, yeah, 10-4, Pig Pen, fer shure, fer shure. By golly, it's clean clear to Flag Town, c'mon. Yeah, that's a big 10-4 there, Pig Pen, yeah, we definitely got the front door, good buddy. Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy...

Was the dark of the moon on the sixth of June
In a Kenworth pullin' logs
Cab-over Pete with a reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs

We is headin' for bear on I-10
'Bout a mile outta Shaky Town
I says, "Pig Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck"
"And I'm about to put the hammer down"

'Cause we got a little convoy
Rockin' through the night
Yeah, we got a little convoy
Ain't she a beautiful sight?

Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the USA, convoy

Ah, breaker, Pig Pen, this here's the Duck. And, you wanna back off them hogs? Yeah, 10-4, 'bout five mile or so. Ten, roger. Them hogs is gettin' in-tense up here

By the time we got into Tulsa Town
We had eighty-five trucks in all
But they's a roadblock up on the cloverleaf
And them bears was wall-to-wall

Yeah, them smokies is thick as bugs on a bumper
They even had a bear in the air
I says, "Callin' all trucks, this here's the Duck
We about to go a-huntin' bear"

'Cause we got a great big convoy
Rockin' through the night
Yeah, we got a great big convoy
Ain't she a beautiful sight?

Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the USA, convoy

Ah, you wanna give me a 10-9 on that, Pig Pen? Negatory, Pig Pen; you're still too close. Yeah, them hogs is startin' to close up my sinuses. Mercy sakes, you better back off another ten

Well, we rolled up Interstate 44
Like a rocket sled on rails
We tore up all of our swindle sheets
And left 'em settin' on the scales

By the time we hit that Chi-town
Them bears was a-gettin' smart
They'd brought up some reinforcements
From the Illinois National Guard

There's armored cars and tanks and jeeps
And rigs of ev'ry size
Yeah, them chicken coops was full'a bears
And choppers filled the skies

Well, we shot the line and we went for broke
With a thousand screamin' trucks
An' eleven long-haired Friends a' Jesus
In a chartreuse micra-bus

Ah, Rubber Duck to Sodbuster, come over. Yeah, 10-4, Sodbuster? Lissen, you wanna put that micra-bus right behind that suicide jockey? Yeah, he's haulin' dynamite, and he needs all the help he can get

Well, we laid a strip for the Jersey shore
And prepared to cross the line
I could see the bridge was lined with bears
But I didn't have a dog-goned dime

I says, "Pig Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
We just ain't a-gonna pay no toll"
So we crashed the gate doing ninety-eight
I says "Let them truckers roll, 10-4"

'Cause we got a mighty convoy
Rockin' through the night
Yeah, we got a mighty convoy
Ain't she a beautiful sight?

Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the USA

Convoy! Ah, 10-4, Pig Pen, what's your twenty?
Convoy! Omaha? Well, they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there fer shure. Well, mercy
Convoy! sakes, good buddy, we gonna back on outta here, so keep the bugs off your glass and the bears off your...
Convoy! tail. We'll catch you on the flip-flop. This here's the Rubber Duck on the side
Convoy! We gone. 'Bye,'bye
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 03, 2022, 10:51:10 pm
It's depressing watching the CPC write Liberal attack adds for free.
The Liberals are great at using American style attack ads.  I still remember when they ran ads against Harper accusing him of using Canadian troops in the streets of Canadian cities.

https://youtu.be/unNZtCH9Mdo

Of course, now the Liberals ARE actually threatening to use the military against the convoy protesters. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 04, 2022, 08:46:34 am
Ah, breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck.
Worst song to ever make the Billboard Top 40 and it isn't even close. It makes Devil Went Down to Georgia seem like genius by comparison.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 09:25:52 am
GoFundMe has unsuspended much to your authoritarian chagrin. Yeah, only loons care about civil liberties and guaranteed rights.

Did you watch the video lol?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 04, 2022, 09:42:30 am
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Ah, breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck.
Worst song to ever make the Billboard Top 40 and it isn't even close. It makes Devil Went Down to Georgia seem like genius by comparison.
Yeah, there was a weird infatuation with Truckers back in the 1970s/early 80s. Weird songs like "Convoy" and "6 days on the road". Movies and TV shows (I remember watching a series called BJ and the Bear about a trucker and his pet chimp.)

There was even a comic book that featured a truck-driving super hero. (Hmmm... I wonder why we didn't see him in Marvel's Avengers movies?)

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ulysses_Archer_(Earth-616)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 10:01:55 am
These people need to be stopped!
(Attachment Link)

Aw cute, they took a break from harassing healthcare workers.

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"The protest is also affecting staff at both the Élisabeth Bruyčre Hospital and its sister campus, Saint-Vincent Hospital near Bronson Avenue, according to the hospital's administration. Both are in the area the city is asking people to avoid.

"[Staff] are reporting feeling quite intimidated and threatened when they're walking into work if they're wearing a mask," said Peggy Taillon, the hospital's vice-president for strategy and communications. "They're being pointed at and being yelled at."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/health-care-stress-truck-convoy-protests-1.6335396
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 04, 2022, 10:19:18 am
Aw cute, they took a break from harassing healthcare workers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/health-care-stress-truck-convoy-protests-1.6335396
Hey, now that's not fair.

They also harassed workers at a homeless shelter and business owners in the area.

Its equal opportunity harassment!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 04, 2022, 10:35:58 am
Antivaxxers also harassing workers and public at a New Westminster vaccination clinic yesterday,
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 10:57:50 am
Hey, now that's not fair.

They also harassed workers at a homeless shelter and business owners in the area.

Its equal opportunity harassment!
“They” probably got the idea from BLM rioters harassing businesses and patrons back in 2020.  You know, the riots you said nothing about.  It wouldn’t surprise me that the idea of messing with statues also came from the BLM riots.  You know, the statues that you said nothing about.  Until now, when people are protesting something you don’t agree with.  Funny how that works.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 04, 2022, 11:28:20 am
“They” probably got the idea from BLM rioters harassing businesses and patrons back in 2020.

oh my! Look who keeps talkin' & complainin' bout

Nice whataboutism...  Again though, great whataboutism!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 11:39:53 am
Antivaxxers also harassing workers and public at a New Westminster vaccination clinic yesterday,
I don’t think that that’s appropriate.  Thankfully that only comprises a small minority of protesters.  And thankfully, I’ve always been told, by people like you, that it’s prejudice to paint a whole group of people based on the actions of a few.  Or do you think that all Muslims.are terrorists etc?  You don’t right?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 11:40:30 am
Keep going, it’s working!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 11:46:03 am
“They” probably got the idea from BLM rioters harassing businesses and patrons back in 2020.  You know, the riots you said nothing about.  It wouldn’t surprise me that the idea of messing with statues also came from the BLM riots.  You know, the statues that you said nothing about.  Until now, when people are protesting something you don’t agree with.  Funny how that works.

Nice whataboutism. 

Funny how you don't have a problem with these guys doing all the things you're criticizing BLM for you grimy hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 11:49:27 am
Funny how you don't have a problem with these guys doing all the things you're criticizing BLM for you grimy hypocrite.
You’re the one’s that set the standard.  I can link to all the things you people said, or better yet, didn’t say in 2020, that you’re saying now about a different protest.  It’s why you people have no credibility.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 11:54:59 am
You’re the one’s that set the standard.

Still makes you hypocrite with no credibility. Those are your rules, not mine.

Quote
I can link to all the things you people said, or better yet, didn’t say in 2020, that you’re saying now about a different protest.  It’s why you people have no credibility.

Go ahead, I don't give a damn. It's no my problem you're too stupid to understand that the problem isn't these people's actions per se but the fact that the cause itself is so dumb.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 04, 2022, 11:58:12 am
Still makes you hypocrite with no credibility. Those are your rules, not mine.

Go ahead, I don't give a damn. It's no my problem you're too stupid to understand that the problem isn't these people's actions per se but the fact that the cause itself is so dumb.
What do you mean the cause is dumb?

What type of society do we live in if people don't have the freedom to spread a potentially deadly disease to as many people as possible? Next think you know you won't be able to pee in the city's water supply or put poison in children's milk.

Mah Freedum!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 11:59:59 am
What do you mean the cause is dumb?

What type of society do we live in if people don't have the freedom to spread a potentially deadly disease to as many people as possible?

Mah Freedum!
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

Mah secuuuurity! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 12:16:34 pm
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

No but all the convoy protesters are idiots.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 04:29:55 pm
How it started:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKtGZoTXsAAM18J?format=jpg&name=small)

How it's going:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKtGZoaWYAAvnKY?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 04:35:19 pm
How it started:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKtGZoTXsAAM18J?format=jpg&name=small)

How it's going:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKtGZoaWYAAvnKY?format=jpg&name=small)
There’s an easy solution.  End vaccine mandates, especially now that were entering the endemic phase.  Protest over, and 90% of truckers are vaccinated anyways.  This is all theatre, on both sides but especially by the government.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 04:37:38 pm
There’s an easy solution. End vaccine mandates, especially now that were entering the endemic phase.  Protest over, and 90% of truckers are vaccinated anyways.  This is all theatre, on both sides but especially by the government.

No one believes this because it's not actually about mandates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 04:59:10 pm
No one believes this because it's not actually about mandates.
Yes it is.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 04, 2022, 05:09:15 pm
Yes it is.

Nice to know you support letting a small loud minority dictate government policy by being ****.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 07:30:33 pm
Nice to know you support letting a small loud minority dictate government policy by being ****.
It’s the majority of truckers.  The trucker vaccine mandate is senseless.  Regardless, the only **** I’ve seen protesting in Ottawa in the last couple of years are these ones.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 08:08:00 pm
I always thought that was a cheesy moment from Trudeau. His peeps even shooing people out of the way so they can get their money shot.

But Mitch, please. BLM is trying to stop people from getting killed needlessly, these aholes are protesting for their ‘freedom’ to get others killed.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 08:17:35 pm
I always thought that was a cheesy moment from Trudeau. His peeps even shooing people out of the way so they can get their money shot.

But Mitch, please. BLM is trying to stop people from getting killed needlessly, these aholes are protesting for their ‘freedom’ to get others killed.
It’s actually the opposite.  BLM has successfully defunded the police in several cities causing huge increases in violent crime.  Needless deaths have occurred they didn’t need to.  All these people are fighting for is control of their body.  Btw, if you get vaccinated, the odds of you dying from covid are less than dying in a car accident, regardless of whether somebody else is vaccinated or not.  You don’t have any right to force chemicals in somebody’s body in order to make you feel safer.  That’s authoritarian. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 04, 2022, 08:26:14 pm
Wow CTV posts terrible journalist trying to undermine Bergen already:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bergen-pushed-o-toole-to-back-convoy-saying-there-are-good-people-on-both-sides-sources-1.5768337

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OTTAWA -- Interim Conservative Leader Candice Bergen pushed predecessor Erin O’Toole to show support for the Freedom Convoy protest, arguing last week there are “good people on both sides,” an echo of the phrase made infamous by former U.S. president Donald Trump after a Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017.

Bergen also told O’Toole and other members of the Conservative shadow cabinet that there were “reasonable people” at the truckers’ protest, just as there were in the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

Uhh, there were all sorts of "reasonable people" at the convoy protests.  How does this link to Jan. 6?  Just WOW CTV.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 08:37:44 pm
Wow CTV posts terrible journalist trying to undermine Bergen already:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bergen-pushed-o-toole-to-back-convoy-saying-there-are-good-people-on-both-sides-sources-1.5768337

Uhh, there were all sorts of "reasonable people" at the convoy protests.  How does this link to Jan. 6?  Just WOW CTV.
The media propaganda instituted against this protest would make North Korea jealous.  Are we still living in Canada?  Holy ****.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 08:42:26 pm
Now GoFundMe says they won’t release the money donated, and they’re not going to be returning it to the people that donated.  What in the world is going on?  How can anyone defend this?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 08:49:28 pm
I know I saw that earlier. Bahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 04, 2022, 08:51:44 pm
Now GoFundMe says they won’t release the money donated, and they’re not going to be returning it to the people that donated.  What in the world is going on?  How can anyone defend this?

I guess they steal money n stuff.  Maybe they will invest the money in crypto.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 08:53:50 pm
I guess they steal money n stuff.  Maybe they will invest the money in crypto.

Or maybe you should read their statement before making up your own facts.

https://medium.com/gofundme-stories/update-gofundme-statement-on-the-freedom-convoy-2022-fundraiser-4ca7e9714e82
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 04, 2022, 08:54:41 pm
Now GoFundMe says they won’t release the money donated, and they’re not going to be returning it to the people that donated.  What in the world is going on?  How can anyone defend this?
You can only do that to people who are overwhelmingly unpopular among the general public. Otherwise there would be a backlash.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 09:10:57 pm
It’s actually the opposite.  BLM has successfully defunded the police in several cities causing huge increases in violent crime.  Needless deaths have occurred they didn’t need to.  All these people are fighting for is control of their body.  Btw, if you get vaccinated, the odds of you dying from covid are less than dying in a car accident, regardless of whether somebody else is vaccinated or not.  You don’t have any right to force chemicals in somebody’s body in order to make you feel safer.  That’s authoritarian.

The unvaccinated clogging up our healthcare system gets innocent people killed.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 04, 2022, 09:13:43 pm
You can only do that to people who are overwhelmingly unpopular among the general public. Otherwise there would be a backlash.

So you're saying Go Fund Me should release funds based on whether they or others agree with the campaign or not?  Ok.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 04, 2022, 09:16:11 pm
Or maybe you should read their statement before making up your own facts.

https://medium.com/gofundme-stories/update-gofundme-statement-on-the-freedom-convoy-2022-fundraiser-4ca7e9714e82

Well i'm sure Go Fund Me will always hold back funds from any protest movement if a small minority of the protestors are harrassing or "violent".  I see BLM and Antifa have a bunch of Go Fund Me drives going on right now.  Given the involvement of some of their members in the Floyd riots i'm sure the site will be canceling those drives any minute now...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 09:31:55 pm
Well i'm sure Go Fund Me will always hold back funds from any protest movement if a small minority of the protestors are harrassing or "violent".  I see BLM and Antifa have a bunch of Go Fund Me drives going on right now.  Given the involvement of some of their members in the Floyd riots i'm sure the site will be canceling those drives any minute now...

Hmmm, if BLM was having violent protests at the moment and GFM wasn't doing anything about it, you'd be making an excellent point.

I don't recall GFM playing a big role in the 2020 protests but to be sure I asked google. I came across the page below in ways that they were urging supporters to contribute.

Interestingly, there is nothing mentioned about GFM so your excellent point becomes a ridiculous comparison of two completely different scenarios.

https://adhoc.fm/post/black-lives-matter-resources-and-funds/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:32:37 pm
I know I saw that earlier. Bahahahahahaha.
It’s sad to see people so deranged that they applaud corporate theft because it’s against a group of people they don’t like.  That’s what it’s come to.  You should be proud of yourself.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:34:14 pm
You can only do that to people who are overwhelmingly unpopular among the general public. Otherwise there would be a backlash.
Another one applauding corporate theft based on whether the victim is popular.  Quite the system you support there.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:36:46 pm
The unvaccinated clogging up our healthcare system gets innocent people killed.
You’re still a dunce when it comes to the science.  If an “innocent “ person is vaccinated, the odds of them dying from a car accident is greater than dying from covid.  Stop condoning theft simply because you don’t like the victim.  That’s a banana republic me mentality.  Move to another country, you’re attitude is un-Canadian.  You don’t deserve to live here.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 09:38:24 pm
It’s sad to see people so deranged that they applaud corporate theft because it’s against a group of people they don’t like.  That’s what it’s come to.  You should be proud of yourself.

Oh wah, they'll refund and/or work with the organizers to donate to a charity of their choice. They're not keeping the money.

You're expecting a platform as big as them to become accessory to a crime?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 09:39:57 pm
You’re still a dunce when it comes to the science.  If an “innocent “ person is vaccinated, the odds of them dying from a car accident is greater than dying from covid.  Stop condoning theft simply because you don’t like the victim.  That’s a banana republic me mentality.  Move to another country, you’re attitude is un-Canadian.  You don’t deserve to live here.

GFY Shady.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:40:07 pm
So you're saying Go Fund Me should release funds based on whether they or others agree with the campaign or not?  Ok.
That’s what they’re saying.  This from the same side that insisted a baker HAVE to bake a cake for a gay wedding regardless of his religious views.  These progressive pukes move the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels.  This new example illustrates just how authoritarian they really are.  I honestly do hope some of them die of covid.  They deserve it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:40:45 pm
GFY Shady.
Move somewhere else you f**king fascist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 09:48:46 pm
Move somewhere else you f**king fascist.

Why would I move? I agree with our policies.

You move, I hear Florida likes your kind. Or maybe Texas where you can sit pretty with the other anti-choice woman haters.

You can start a GFM, I'll even throw in $20.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 09:58:01 pm
Why would I move? I agree with our policies.

You move, I hear Florida likes your kind. Or maybe Texas where you can sit pretty with the other anti-choice woman haters.

You can start a GFM, I'll even throw in $20.
You don’t want the law applied evenly to everyone.  You want it based on whether you agree with someone or not.? You’re a fascist.  Thankfully, Branch Covidian
Fascists like you will be hiding under your beds for years to come.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 04, 2022, 10:15:41 pm
Just a reminder to the Branch Covidians of the forum.

If mandates get lifted I would like to remind you.... you can still stay home. No one will rip the mask off your face, no one will force you to dine in at a restaurant, you can drop your children off at their leisure activity and wait in your car, you can still say no to family gatherings and events, you can live within your 4 walls and NO ONE will stop you. We will not judge you for your choice - we will just be glad you have one. That is the point of freedom of choice! While you're comfortable where you are we are also comfortable moving on with our lives.

Sincerely
A member of the small fringe minority with unacceptable views
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 04, 2022, 10:25:59 pm
Just a reminder to the Branch Covidians of the forum.

If mandates get lifted I would like to remind you.... you can still stay home. No one will rip the mask off your face, no one will force you to dine in at a restaurant, you can drop your children off at their leisure activity and wait in your car, you can still say no to family gatherings and events, you can live within your 4 walls and NO ONE will stop you. We will not judge you for your choice - we will just be glad you have one. That is the point of freedom of choice! While you're comfortable where you are we are also comfortable moving on with our lives.

Sincerely
A member of the small fringe minority with unacceptable views


What the heck does mandates on truckers crossing the border have to do with me going to restaurants?

My kids go to school and daycare. I went to restaurants many times in 2021, out for coffee, celebrated my bday with a group of friends, went on vacation in the summer.

Not sure why you think we're all hiding under our beds here. Is that some weird fantasy of yours?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 04, 2022, 11:21:43 pm
Class-action lawsuit filed against convoy organizers, seeking damages on behalf of downtown Ottawa residents (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/lawsuit-filed-against-convoy-organizers-seeking-damages-on-behalf-of-downtown-ottawa-residents-1.5768731?cid=sm:trueanthem:ctvnews:twittermanualpost&taid=61fdb1a270e35d0001ab4086&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+New+Content+(Feed)&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)

(https://i.imgur.com/PHhGPBF.jpg)
{pleeese! Convoy organizers need your help!}
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 05, 2022, 12:08:58 am
(https://i.imgur.com/sS4bvUJ.gif)

waldo, how Trumpian!

Bergen pushed O'Toole to back convoy saying there are 'good people on both sides' (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bergen-pushed-o-toole-to-back-convoy-saying-there-are-good-people-on-both-sides-sources-1.5768337)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 09:00:56 am
“Show me where it says protests need to be peaceful and polite”.  My how things have changed! 😂🤣

https://youtu.be/EAe86my9r7A
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 05, 2022, 09:13:00 am
“Show me where it says protests need to be peaceful and polite”.  My how things have changed! 😂🤣

https://youtu.be/EAe86my9r7A
I think you're imagining people's objections to them being allowed to protest in a desperate search for something to criticize. But what about occupations? Do you know the difference?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 09:57:53 am
Narratives crumbling.

One Indo-Canadian trucker, Kamal Pannu from Montreal, I spoke to, was bemused that the protestors were being bracketed as white supremacists when so many of them including he himself are ethnic minorities and people of colour. Some Sikh Canadians who represent a large percentage of truckers in Canada appeared to be out at various transit points on the trucker’s routes to Ottawa to share food and blankets with the truckers, Pannu who is Sikh says.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-subramanya-freedom-convoy-dismantles-stereotypes-about-who-is-opposed-to-vaccine-mandates/wcm/c38cd155-84d6-42ad-80df-7bae91554fde/amp/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:23:50 am
It’s the majority of truckers.

90% are vaxxed.

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The trucker vaccine mandate is senseless. 

The US has the same mandate so even if we lifted ours these chuds still wouldn't be able to cross lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:25:14 am
It’s actually the opposite.  BLM has successfully defunded the police in several cities causing huge increases in violent crime.

Another moronic lie but our resident lying moron.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:26:35 am
Now GoFundMe says they won’t release the money donated, and they’re not going to be returning it to the people that donated.  What in the world is going on?  How can anyone defend this?

Private business beeyotch.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:32:57 am
Narratives crumbling.

One Indo-Canadian trucker, Kamal Pannu from Montreal, I spoke to, was bemused that the protestors were being bracketed as white supremacists when so many of them including he himself are ethnic minorities and people of colour. Some Sikh Canadians who represent a large percentage of truckers in Canada appeared to be out at various transit points on the trucker’s routes to Ottawa to share food and blankets with the truckers, Pannu who is Sikh says.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-subramanya-freedom-convoy-dismantles-stereotypes-about-who-is-opposed-to-vaccine-mandates/wcm/c38cd155-84d6-42ad-80df-7bae91554fde/amp/

lol the post is just straight up doing PR for the convoy. What a joke. Funny how it fails to mention Pat King's involvement or Dichter's history of Islamophobic comments or Lich's ties to the Wexit party or the simple fact that vast majority of the people stirring up trouble in Ottawa this week are white men.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:39:05 am

What the heck does mandates on truckers crossing the border have to do with me going to restaurants?

My kids go to school and daycare. I went to restaurants many times in 2021, out for coffee, celebrated my bday with a group of friends, went on vacation in the summer.

Not sure why you think we're all hiding under our beds here. Is that some weird fantasy of yours?

It's important to the chud mindset that their enemies be weak cowards who are also extremely powerful at the same time. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 10:47:34 am
Private business beeyotch.
Bake that cake!  Bake that cake!  Bake that cake! 😂

Regardless, I wasn’t aware private businesses were allowed to steal people’s money.  Now you libtards are defending that too?  It’s sad that covid he caused so many of you to completely abandon your principles.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 10:48:34 am
lol the post is just straight up doing PR for the convoy. What a joke. Funny how it fails to mention Pat King's involvement or Dichter's history of Islamophobic comments or Lich's ties to the Wexit party or the simple fact that vast majority of the people stirring up trouble in Ottawa this week are white men.
Nice.  Keep focusing on their skin colour and not their cause.  How long have you been a racist for?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:49:56 am
Bake that cake!  Bake that cake!  Bake that cake! 😂

Regardless, I wasn’t aware private businesses were allowed to steal people’s money.  Now you libtards are defending that too?  It’s sad that covid he caused so many of you to completely abandon your principles.

They're offering refunds, dipshit.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:51:00 am
Nice.  Keep focusing on their skin colour and not their cause.  How long have you been a racist for?

LOL you were the one who posted the article abut the protesters' skin colour, not me.

I'm also pretty sure I've made my feelings on their dumb cause pretty clear.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 10:51:09 am
Another moronic lie but our resident lying moron.
It’s not a lie at all.  Many cities cut huge amounts of police funding, and have stopped policing certain types of activities.  It’s caused huge spikes in crime.  But you’re far away from the consequences.  You and the other domestic chicken hawks advocate for destructive polices without having to face the consequences of said polices.  It’s disgusting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:53:12 am
It’s not a lie at all. Many cities cut huge amounts of police funding, and have stopped policing certain types of activities.  It’s caused huge spikes in crime. But you’re far away from the consequences.  You and the other domestic chicken hawks advocate for destructive polices without having to face the consequences of said polices.  It’s disgusting.

Nope, all lies but I'm not going to waste time debunking it because you'll just ignore it and move on to a new lie because you're a congenital liar.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 10:54:05 am
They're offering refunds, dipshit.
The crowdfunding site will refund or redirect to charities
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/an-occuption-gofundme-pulls-plug-on-fundraiser-for-convoy-protesters/wcm/5e496704-8214-468d-8705-195b5ea686fc/amp/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 10:55:24 am
Nope, all lies but I'm not going to waste time debunking it because you'll just ignore it and move on to a new lie because you're a congenital liar.
It’s not lies at all, you’re f**king clueless.  Take a look at San Francisco for example.  You’re a liar.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:56:08 am
The crowdfunding site will refund or redirect to charities
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nationalpost.com/news/an-occuption-gofundme-pulls-plug-on-fundraiser-for-convoy-protesters/wcm/5e496704-8214-468d-8705-195b5ea686fc/amp/

An initial $1 million was released to organizers earlier this week but, given how things have evolved, GoFundMe will issue refunds to donors and work with organizers to send remaining funds to “credible and established charities.

Another own goal, JFC you have a handful of peanut shells for a brain.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 10:58:12 am
It’s not lies at all, you’re f**king clueless.  Take a look at San Francisco for example.  You’re a liar.

Liar. San Fransisco didn't defund the police.

Quote
For the proposed 2021-22 budget, the San Francisco Police Department’s allocation will decrease by $6 million, from about $668 million to $661 million. Those cuts can nearly all be attributed to decreased demand for police at the airport. However, in the following fiscal year, the city projects the police budget will increase once again to $689 million. That’s close to the police budget’s all-time high of $692 million in FY 2019-20. By way of comparison, in FY 2010-11, the police budget weighed in at $445 million.

The Sheriff’s budget is increasing by $25 million from the last fiscal year, up to about $270 million. The District Attorney’s budget is increasing by $6 million, and the probation departments are seeing their budgets increase by millions as well, despite their comparatively smaller size. All told, General Fund spending on law enforcement in this year’s proposed budget is about $50 million greater than last year’s adopted budget projection for this year.

I'd love to know how a commitment to slightly reduce the size of the police budget in FY 2021/2022 by cutting airport cops caused a spike in homicides in 2020 and why cities that didn't even make a token gesture to reallocating police funding experienced the same increase in crime.

Honestly, you should be embarrassed that you choose to spend your time getting b*tch slapped by total strangers on the internet.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 11:17:49 am
Bake that cake!  Bake that cake!  Bake that cake! 😂

Regardless, I wasn’t aware private businesses were allowed to steal people’s money.  Now you libtards are defending that too?  It’s sad that covid he caused so many of you to completely abandon your principles.

They are offering refunds. Any funds left over will be donated to charity. Providing vaccines to third world countries would be my choice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 12:01:52 pm
There’s an easy solution.  End vaccine mandates, especially now that were entering the endemic phase.  Protest over, and 90% of truckers are vaccinated anyways.  This is all theatre, on both sides but especially by the government.

Unfortunately over 90% of those throwing the world "endemic" around have no idea what it really means.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 12:57:16 pm
Now GoFundMe says they won’t release the money donated, and they’re not going to be returning it to the people that donated.  What in the world is going on?  How can anyone defend this?

Just putting this here again so people don't forget what a serial fabulist this clown is.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 02:26:31 pm
Funny how the (White) National(ist) Post is doing PR for the convoy with multiple fawning editorials when they had this to say about the indigenous blockades in 2020:

Enough is enough. Clear the blockades, restore the rule of law (https://nationalpost.com/opinion/derek-h-burney-enough-is-enough-clear-the-blockades-restore-the-rule-of-law)

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First and foremost, the government needs to restore public order, not through nebulous calls for dialogue, but by action. Declare that “Enough is Enough.” Restore our national transportation system and empower all federal law enforcement agencies, and if necessary the military, to uphold the rule of law. Instruct them to institute clear “cease and desist” ordinances, incarcerate offenders and deport non-Canadian protestors. Draw a line in the sand instead of having sand kicked in our face.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 02:30:52 pm
An initial $1 million was released to organizers earlier this week but, given how things have evolved, GoFundMe will issue refunds to donors and work with organizers to send remaining funds to “credible and established charities.

Another own goal, JFC you have a handful of peanut shells for a brain.
How about they just refund everyone’s money?  Their the ones that decided to essentially ban this protest from using their service over political reasons.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 02:32:03 pm
They have no authority to send anyone’s money anywhere else except back to the person that donated.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 02:37:35 pm
How about they just refund everyone’s money? Their the ones that decided to essentially ban this protest from using their service over political reasons.

Maybe they want to see if the organizers want to actually help people instead of lining their own pockets?

Regardless, you've once again made a claim and provided sources that debunk it. Wild how this just keeps happening.

(https://c.tenor.com/6mWm3RgLcpEAAAAC/simpsons-sideshow-bob.gif)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 02:41:02 pm
lol at that photo. I see we've reached the "I'm not racist I have a Black friend" stage of the discourse.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 03:02:58 pm
How about they just refund everyone’s money?  Their the ones that decided to essentially ban this protest from using their service over political reasons.

Anyone can request their money be returned.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 05, 2022, 03:20:55 pm
lol at that photo. I see we've reached the "I'm not racist I have a Black friend" stage of the discourse.

It looks photoshopped.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 05, 2022, 03:47:26 pm
It looks photoshopped.

My first serious relationship was with a biracial guy who was hard left and anti-racism educator. I was shocked when talking to a mutual friend recently to find out he's now full anti-vaxxer Trumpie!

Some drink the kool aid I guess.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 03:52:43 pm
My first serious relationship was with a biracial guy who was hard left and anti-racism educator. I was shocked when talking to a mutual friend recently to find out he's now full anti-vaxxer Trumpie!

Some drink the kool aid I guess.
The term anti-vaxx has been completely changed by Branch Covidians.  Now it means anyone that recognizes any of the risks, understands that it’s best for high risk people, and acknowledges the right of a person to decide what medicine goes into their body.  Essentially anyone that isn’t a fascist authoritarian is considered anti-vaxx now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 05, 2022, 03:57:32 pm
The term anti-vaxx has been completely changed by Branch Covidians.  Now it means anyone that recognizes any of the risks, understands that it’s best for high risk people, and acknowledges the right of a person to decide what medicine goes into their body.  Essentially anyone that isn’t a fascist authoritarian is considered anti-vaxx now.

No, he's gone fully cuckoo as in Q supporting conspiracy theorist from what I was told. Once the shock passed I felt kinda sad and sorry for him, he always did have a conspiracy mindset, though at that time it was about 9/11.

Anyway, point was that blacks supporting racists do exist... though some may have mental problems. LOL
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 05, 2022, 04:00:09 pm
Vancouver is nipping this Ottawa crap in the bud, our counter protestors are out in full force. I wish I'd known, I would've gone. Hoping things don't get too ugly.

https://twitter.com/TravisPrasadCTV/status/1490036436040515584
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 04:10:51 pm
Vancouver is nipping this Ottawa crap in the bud, our counter protestors are out in full force. I wish I'd known, I would've gone. Hoping things don't get too ugly.

https://twitter.com/TravisPrasadCTV/status/1490036436040515584
You joining the other brown shirts?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 04:11:19 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 04:14:47 pm
GoFundMe doesn’t like the protest because it’s now an “occupation.”
Here’s what they did when parts of Seattle were actually occupied and it’s occupiers claimed it as their own territory.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 04:19:43 pm
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lol cope and seethe. Cope and seethe.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 04:29:48 pm
lol cope and seethe. Cope and seethe.
LOL, you can’t defend them anymore!  😂

Good news, the new funding site has raised over a million dollars in just 12 hours.  The damn has broken.  You Branch Covidians cannot win, it’s over.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 05:06:16 pm
The new hottest club in downtown Ottawa now.  Lol.

https://twitter.com/gray_mackenzie/status/1489818145216991234?s=21
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 05, 2022, 05:19:36 pm
Wow love the government and the MSM newsmedia trying to make this sound like a military operation by those violent truckers!  What embarrassing journalism and police tyrants in this country:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8597478/ottawa-trucker-convoy-risk-of-violence/
 
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The nation’s capital is a city “under siege” by the trucker convoy that has dug in over the past nine days amid what the chair of the police services board called a “nation-wide insurrection.”  “We are on day eight of this occupation. Our city is under siege. This group is emboldened by the lack of enforcement by every level of government,” said Diane Deans, chair of the board.  “This group is a threat to our democracy. What we’re seeing is bigger than just a City of Ottawa problem. This is a nation-wide insurrection. This is madness. We need a concrete plan to put an end to this.”
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 05, 2022, 05:26:17 pm
GoFundMe doesn’t like the protest because it’s now an “occupation.”
Here’s what they did when parts of Seattle were actually occupied and it’s occupiers claimed it as their own territory.
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LOL WOW what a bunch of hypocrites.  GoFundMe supporting an ACTUAL violent and illegal occupation and government insurrection with CHOP.  The convoy should sue them for stealing their money.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 05:41:18 pm
LOL WOW what a bunch of hypocrites.  GoFundMe supporting an ACTUAL violent and illegal occupation and government insurrection with CHOP.  The convoy should sue them for stealing their money.
I hope they do.  The discovery process would be amazing.  I’d love to see all the GoFundMe emails behind the scenes.  Their business would be over.  Btw, here’s part of Toronto under siege now.  They even pissed off farmers now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 06:42:20 pm
LOL, you can’t defend them anymore!  😂

Yeah it sucks they didn't just keep the money or give it to a cause of their choosing.

Stealing from braindead rednecks is good, actually.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 06:43:18 pm
LOL WOW what a bunch of hypocrites.  GoFundMe supporting an ACTUAL violent and illegal occupation and government insurrection with CHOP.  The convoy should sue them for stealing their money.

Do you know what "refund" means?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 06:56:29 pm
I hope they do.  The discovery process would be amazing.  I’d love to see all the GoFundMe emails behind the scenes.  Their business would be over.  Btw, here’s part of Toronto under siege now.  They even pissed off farmers now.

The convoy has its own problems. The people of Ottawa are asking to file a 9.8 million class action suit against its organizers. Unfortunately for the organizers, GoFundMe stipulates that money it collects cannot be used for legal fees.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 05, 2022, 07:06:44 pm
Do you know what "refund" means?

I do but GoFundMe doesn't, and thanks for the rudeness.  Apparently they're giving the money to other charities.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 05, 2022, 07:07:31 pm
Stealing from braindead rednecks is good, actually.

Why are you so hateful?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 07:38:59 pm
I do but GoFundMe doesn't, and thanks for the rudeness.  Apparently they're giving the money to other charities.

They will refund to anyone who requests a refund.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:27:15 pm
I do but GoFundMe doesn't, and thanks for the rudeness.

Is that why they are offering refunds?

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Apparently they're giving the money to other charities.

No they're asking the organizers of the convoy to disburse the money to other charities. But I don't think the Klan is a registered charity.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:27:56 pm
Why are you so hateful?

Because i know these very people in my bones and they are terrible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:28:35 pm
Why are you so hateful?
Good question.  These people want to live in a civil society but want laws and such applied unevenly based on political preference.  It’s as disgusting as it gets.  That’s a good way to fracture society permanently with devastating results.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:29:04 pm
Because i know these very people in my bones and they are terrible.
That’s usually what all bigots say.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:30:20 pm
The convoy has its own problems. The people of Ottawa are asking to file a 9.8 million class action suit against its organizers. Unfortunately for the organizers, GoFundMe stipulates that money it collects cannot be used for legal fees.
That’s a lawsuit destined to fail.  They’d have better luck suing the city of Ottawa for allowing the protest to persist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:36:52 pm
That’s usually what all bigots say.

Yeah I'm bigoted against scumbag racist rednecks, guilty as charged. Got anything else, dumbass?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:38:02 pm
One of Black Dog’s ilk purposely hit a protester with his vehicle.  The family should sue the **** out of Justin Trudeau for his irresponsible fringe comments escalating this whole thing.  This is what happens when you divide Canadians.  Trudeau needs to resign now!

https://twitter.com/tissentobias/status/1489979994084458502?s=21
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 08:39:29 pm
That’s a lawsuit destined to fail.  They’d have better luck suing the city of Ottawa for allowing the protest to persist.

We'll see. Maybe the City of Ottawa will sue.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:39:53 pm
Yeah I'm bigoted against scumbag racist rednecks, guilty as charged. Got anything else, dumbass?
Just because you call people that doesn’t mean they are.  Get your head out of your ass.  People like you have already caused a vehicular homicide.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:41:21 pm
We'll see. Maybe the City of Ottawa will sue.
Cool.  Can the businesses that the city and province have closed down on and off for 2 years now sue the city and province?  If not why not.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:41:34 pm
Just because you call people that doesn’t mean they are.  Get your head out of your ass.

East sh*t you c*nt.

That’s what they’re saying.  This from the same side that insisted a baker HAVE to bake a cake for a gay wedding regardless of his religious views.  These progressive pukes move the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels.  This new example illustrates just how authoritarian they really are. I honestly do hope some of them die of covid.  They deserve it.

You’re still a dunce when it comes to the science.  If an “innocent “ person is vaccinated, the odds of them dying from a car accident is greater than dying from covid.  Stop condoning theft simply because you don’t like the victim.  That’s a banana republic me mentality. Move to another country, you’re attitude is un-Canadian.  You don’t deserve to live here.

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People like you have already caused a vehicular homicide.

What the Winnipeg incident where no one died?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:44:05 pm
East sh*t you c*nt.
You’re proving my point.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:45:16 pm
You’re proving my point.

That you're a hypocrite, a moron, and a vile person? Yeah you got me there.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 08:47:23 pm
Cool.  Can the businesses that the city and province have closed down on and off for 2 years now sue the city and province?  If not why not.

I doubt it because no laws have been violated. I have a lot of sympathy for those who have lost their jobs because of restrictions through no fault of their own. For those who aren't working because they refuse to get vaccinated like 90% of the rest of Canadians, well that's their choice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 05, 2022, 08:52:38 pm
I doubt it because no laws have been violated. I have a lot of sympathy for those who have lost their jobs because of restrictions through no fault of their own. For those who aren't working because they refuse to get vaccinated like 90% of the rest of Canadians, well that's their choice.

Uh...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:53:21 pm
That you're a hypocrite, a moron, and a vile person? Yeah you got me there.
That’s you.  You just can’t take a taste of your own medicine, pun intended.  Stop trying to control other people’s lives.  Stop asking other people to be responsible for your health indefinitely.  Stop asking other people to inject medicine into their bodies that they don’t want.  Stop categorizing people that simply want the freedom to choose for themselves as racist or some other nonsense garbage your leader in hate PM endorses.   Your views simply aren’t compatible in a free society.  You should leave the country along with that BC chick who also wants to subjugate everyone else to the way she wants them to live, in order to keep her feeling safer.  It’s not their job.  It’s YOUR job.  Keep YOURSELF safe, stop asking, actually forcing other people to do it for you.  You’re not a king.  You’re nothing.  You have no right. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 08:56:06 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 05, 2022, 08:56:28 pm
To Black Dog and Justin Blackface

When JMT roped me into becoming moderator I made it very clear I would be hands off, but if you guys can't keep the personal insults to the minimum I may be forced to reconsider. I truly hope that will not be necessary.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 05, 2022, 09:04:34 pm
Let’s pray that the hateful rhetoric from the opposing side causes no more murder.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 05, 2022, 10:05:23 pm
You’re proving my point.
That you're a liar? What vehicular homicide are you referring to?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 05, 2022, 11:23:53 pm
That’s you.  You just can’t take a taste of your own medicine, pun intended.  Stop trying to control other people’s lives.  Stop asking other people to be responsible for your health indefinitely.  Stop asking other people to inject medicine into their bodies that they don’t want.  Stop categorizing people that simply want the freedom to choose for themselves as racist or some other nonsense garbage your leader in hate PM endorses.   Your views simply aren’t compatible in a free society.  You should leave the country along with that BC chick who also wants to subjugate everyone else to the way she wants them to live, in order to keep her feeling safer.  It’s not their job.  It’s YOUR job.  Keep YOURSELF safe, stop asking, actually forcing other people to do it for you.  You’re not a king.  You’re nothing.  You have no right.

Freedom is not infinite, stop perverting the word. If all this was illegal as your redneck buddies and you think it is, we would see the government stand down.

YOU need to move if you don't like it. I even offered to throw in $20 to your Go Fund Me. Trust me, they won't withhold the money, it's for a great cause.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 12:04:29 am
Initial reports had one person dead.  I guess 4 injured is better than the alternative.  Police said it’s a miracle that nobody was critically hurt.  Hopefully anti-convoy rhetoric will be more responsible going forward.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 06, 2022, 09:45:08 am
Uh...

Why Uh? There are a lot of fully vaccinated people who lost jobs because of this pandemic.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 09:55:44 am
Why Uh? There are a lot of fully vaccinated people who lost jobs because of this pandemic.

Yeah I misread what you said. my bad.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 09:58:04 am
Initial reports had one person dead.  I guess 4 injured is better than the alternative.  Police said it’s a miracle that nobody was critically hurt.  Hopefully anti-convoy rhetoric will be more responsible going forward.

Is this what responsible rhetoric looks like?

"That’s what they’re saying.  This from the same side that insisted a baker HAVE to bake a cake for a gay wedding regardless of his religious views.  These progressive pukes move the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels. This new example illustrates just how authoritarian they really are.  I honestly do hope some of them die of covid.  They deserve it."


The funny thing being it's your unvaccinated comrades who are the ones dropping like flies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 10:01:23 am
That’s you.  You just can’t take a taste of your own medicine, pun intended.  Stop trying to control other people’s lives.  Stop asking other people to be responsible for your health indefinitely.  Stop asking other people to inject medicine into their bodies that they don’t want.

People are, as always, completely free not to get vaccinated and have never not had the choice.

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Stop categorizing people that simply want the freedom to choose for themselves as racist or some other nonsense garbage your leader in hate PM endorses.

Go ahead, continue to ignore the vile beliefs of the organizers and pretend that they aren't endemic in this movement.

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Your views simply aren’t compatible in a free society.  You should leave the country along with that BC chick who also wants to subjugate everyone else to the way she wants them to live, in order to keep her feeling safer.

When you know what a "free society" means lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 10:24:13 am
Scoreboard:  4 protestors deliberately hit by SUV in hit-and-run in Winnipeg.

Who are more intolerant:  the protestors or the people against the protestors?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 11:35:24 am
Scoreboard:  4 protestors deliberately hit by SUV in hit-and-run in Winnipeg.

Who are more intolerant:  the protestors or the people against the protestors?
It reminds me of Charlottesville.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 06, 2022, 11:43:50 am
Scoreboard:  4 protestors deliberately hit by SUV in hit-and-run in Winnipeg.

Who are more intolerant:  the protestors or the people against the protestors?
Police reports indicate the guy was on neither side in the vaccination debate, so maybe the answer to your question is the people who spread misinformation to try to generate more animosity.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 12:14:17 pm
Police reports indicate the guy was on neither side in the vaccination debate, so maybe the answer to your question is the people who spread misinformation to try to generate more animosity.
Your ilk could start by not spreading the misinformation that everyone there is racist.  It’s your irresponsible rhetoric that’s partly responsible for this terrorist attack.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 06, 2022, 12:26:13 pm
Your ilk could start by not spreading the misinformation that everyone there is racist.  It’s your irresponsible rhetoric that’s partly responsible for this terrorist attack.
You're getting stupider. Have you checked the pipes in your house for lead?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 12:27:42 pm
Btw, part of this attack is Trudeau’s responsibility, painting protesters as racist, fringe and holding unacceptable views.  That’s disgusting for a supposed leader of all Canadians to say.  This d-bag needs to resign.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 06, 2022, 12:53:01 pm
Btw, part of this attack is Trudeau’s responsibility, painting protesters as racist, fringe and holding unacceptable views.  That’s disgusting for a supposed leader of all Canadians to say.  This d-bag needs to resign.

His numbers are only going up. You people are very unpopular.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 01:04:30 pm
It reminds me of Charlottesville.

The Right to Crash Cars Into People: How Republicans across the country came to endorse a terrorist tactic against protesters
 (https://newrepublic.com/article/162163/republicans-anti-riot-laws-cars)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 01:06:16 pm
His numbers are only going up. You people are very unpopular.

Yup (https://abacusdata.ca/freedom-convoy-public-reaction-february-2022/).

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Two out of three (68%) interviewed in our latest nationwide poll feel they have “very little in common with how the protestors in Ottawa see things”, while 32% say they “have a lot in common.”

Those who are more likely to feel aligned with the protestors are People’s Party voters (82%), Green Party voters (57%), and Conservative Party voters (46%). Large majorities of Liberal (75%), NDP (77%), and BQ (81%) voters say they have little in common with the protestors

The longer this goes on, the more unpopular they will get.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 01:34:03 pm
Your ilk could start by not spreading the misinformation that everyone there is racist.  It’s your irresponsible rhetoric that’s partly responsible for this terrorist attack.

What a surprise that there's no evidence for this.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 02:12:20 pm
Police reports indicate the guy was on neither side in the vaccination debate, so maybe the answer to your question is the people who spread misinformation to try to generate more animosity.

So the car driver hit the protestors on purpose because he was neutral about what they were doing?  Makes sense.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 02:16:41 pm
So the car driver hit the protestors on purpose because he was neutral about what they were doing?  Makes sense.
Exactly, and the car driver said he didn’t do it on purpose, so case closed.  That’s good enough for the Branch Covidians of the forum.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 02:22:41 pm
It gets worse.  Anti-convoy journalist promoted the idea of hitting protesters with a car just days before the incident last night.  Branch Covidians have become completely unhinged as they see their power slowly fade as society moves into the endemic phase of covid.  It really is just like a cult.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 06, 2022, 03:43:44 pm
So the car driver hit the protestors on purpose because he was neutral about what they were doing?  Makes sense.
You're saying the police are lying and it couldn't possibly be a drunk driver or road rage?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 03:47:38 pm
It gets worse.  Anti-convoy journalist promoted the idea of hitting protesters with a car just days before the incident last night.  Branch Covidians have become completely unhinged as they see their power slowly fade as society moves into the endemic phase of covid.  It really is just like a cult.

Nice try.

https://twitter.com/R2B2Walton/status/1490086082616041473?s=20&t=o188VSi-XOY9S8FkP_U7Xg

Imagine thinking an LA journalist tweeting about Florida neo-Nazis is about the stupid convoy (https://twitter.com/R2B2Walton/status/1490089115022282756?s=20&t=qT-K9Du8HMLKw-xO566u9g).

How many outright lies have you told in this thread now, I've honestly lost count.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 03:59:52 pm
You're saying the police are lying and it couldn't possibly be a drunk driver or road rage?
They’re not lying, all they did is ask the driver if he did it intentionally.  If you don’t think this is going to be further investigated you’re as clueless as some of your other Branch Covidians.  I know you want to sweep this incident under the rug, but it’s not going to happen. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 04:06:14 pm
Nice try.

https://twitter.com/R2B2Walton/status/1490086082616041473?s=20&t=o188VSi-XOY9S8FkP_U7Xg

Imagine thinking an LA journalist tweeting about Florida neo-Nazis is about the stupid convoy (https://twitter.com/R2B2Walton/status/1490089115022282756?s=20&t=qT-K9Du8HMLKw-xO566u9g).

How many outright lies have you told in this thread now, I've honestly lost count.
Right, and what happens when you call these protesters nazis, followed up by rhetoric like this?  See Saturday night in Winnipeg.  Be more responsible.  Especially you.  The entirety of the protests has been you calling everyone racists, nazis etc.  All because they don’t agree with government vaccine mandates.  Shame on you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 06, 2022, 04:10:20 pm
The thing is, people seems to be onboard with running you guys over at this point. Watch out for cars while you wail in righteous indignation.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 04:42:01 pm
Right, and what happens when you call these protesters nazis, followed up by rhetoric like this? 

The protestors the tweet was referring to:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK3ZZV0VUAAqGHD?format=jpg&name=small)

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See Saturday night in Winnipeg.  Be more responsible.  Especially you.  The entirety of the protests has been you calling everyone racists, nazis etc.  All because they don’t agree with government vaccine mandates.  Shame on you.

cry more.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 04:44:07 pm
They’re not lying, all they did is ask the driver if he did it intentionally.  If you don’t think this is going to be further investigated you’re as clueless as some of your other Branch Covidians.  I know you want to sweep this incident under the rug, but it’s not going to happen.

You know the thing that ticks me off about this Branch Covidian thing (which I know you didn't invent because it's way too clever for you) is that there's one group that's shown cult-like behaviour, including the search for miracle cures, denial of science, and has been willing to sacrifice their lives for their beliefs and it ain't the pro-vax, pro-mask side.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 04:44:45 pm
The thing is, people seems to be onboard with running you guys over at this point. Watch out for cars while you wail in righteous indignation.

If it was BLM protest or Indigenous blockade, they'd be singing a different tune.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 06, 2022, 05:08:54 pm
Right, and what happens when you call these protesters nazis, followed up by rhetoric like this?  See Saturday night in Winnipeg.  Be more responsible.  Especially you.  The entirety of the protests has been you calling everyone racists, nazis etc.  All because they don’t agree with government vaccine mandates.  Shame on you.

If they don't want to be called Nazis, stop hanging around with people displaying swastikas.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 05:58:04 pm
If they don't want to be called Nazis, stop hanging around with people displaying swastikas.

So if wilbur shows up to a protest about the environment and a pe.dohphile shows up, and pedophilia has nothing to do with the protest, wilbur is now a pe.dophile and/or pedophilia supporter?

https://youtu.be/L4CcgblWC8k?t=32
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 06:02:06 pm
The thing i don't agree with the protest is 1. truckers disturbing the peace by honking horns non-stop, and 2. parking in the middle of the street illegally blocking traffic.

I'm glad Ottawa has fined the trucks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 06:07:39 pm
The protestors the tweet was referring to:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK3ZZV0VUAAqGHD?format=jpg&name=small)

cry more.

A few Nazis show up to a protest that has nothing to do with Nazism = all protestors are Nazis and the protests are a Nazi movement?  LOL ok great deductions Sherlock.

No, what's happening here is a few idiots show up to a protest and Black Dog, who disagrees with the political message of the protests, uses this to smear all the protestors as Nazis as a lame attempt to delegitimize the protests so he doesn't have to actually engage with its actual content.

What a bunch of deceitful bad faith nonsense.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 06:09:07 pm
If it was BLM protest or Indigenous blockade, they'd be singing a different tune.

A few indigenous people set fire to churches = all indigenous protestors are arsonists?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 06:24:43 pm
Ottawa declares state of emergency so they can circumvent people's legal rights because some trucks are parked on the street honking horns. LOL.

Just give them large fines and they'll go away you stupid idiots.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 06:24:48 pm
A few Nazis show up to a protest that has nothing to do with Nazism = all protestors are Nazis and the protests are a Nazi movement?  LOL ok great deductions Sherlock.

You really aren't following the conversation here at all and it's making you look real dumb.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 06:25:35 pm
A few indigenous people set fire to churches = all indigenous protestors are arsonists?

I have no idea what you're talking about and i suspect you're not too sure either.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 06:26:27 pm
A few indigenous people set fire to churches = all indigenous protestors are arsonists?
BLM protesters burned down a police precinct in Minneapolis.  Indigenous protesters have used road blockades for decades.  The last one was in Toronto blocking highways.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 06:28:10 pm
I have no idea what you're talking about and i suspect you're not too sure either.
Why do you stop characterizing all protesters based on the actions of a few at the convoy protests?  Why not apply it to every protest?  Oh right, you’re an intellectually dishonest hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 06:28:41 pm
Ottawa declares state of emergency so they can circumvent people's legal rights because some trucks are parked on the street honking horns. LOL.

Just give them large fines and they'll go away you stupid idiots.

Speaking of bad faith nonsense...

These **** are honking horns all day and night, running air raid sirens, setting off fireworks, blocking streets, occupying public spaces, harassing and assaulting residents.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 06, 2022, 06:30:10 pm
Why do you stop characterizing all protesters based on the actions of a few at the convoy protests?  Why not apply it to every protest?  Oh right, you’re an intellectually dishonest hypocrite.

You're a serial liar and troll, you have no standing here.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 07:03:41 pm
Speaking of bad faith nonsense...

These **** are honking horns all day and night, running air raid sirens, setting off fireworks, blocking streets, occupying public spaces, harassing and assaulting residents.

My friend's elderly parents have been house bound since these jerks showed up. The horns have been torture apparently.

I don't how anyone in good faith can call this peaceful.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 07:06:04 pm
The thing i don't agree with the protest is 1. truckers disturbing the peace by honking horns non-stop, and 2. parking in the middle of the street illegally blocking traffic.

I'm glad Ottawa has fined the trucks.

Yeah, well, jamming the streets and honking all night has been the modus operandi from the get.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 07:13:28 pm
So if wilbur shows up to a protest about the environment and a pe.dohphile shows up, and pedophilia has nothing to do with the protest, wilbur is now a pe.dophile and/or pedophilia supporter?

https://youtu.be/L4CcgblWC8k?t=32

There is no overlap between ped.ophiles and environmentalists. There is an overlap between white supremacy and right wingers.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 07:20:42 pm
Here are some more lovely peaceful protestors:

https://twitter.com/TiMunoz/status/1490473045965815812
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 07:30:05 pm
BLM protesters burned down a police precinct in Minneapolis.  Indigenous protesters have used road blockades for decades.  The last one was in Toronto blocking highways.

I think we all were pretty aghast about those turn of events. You seem pretty unfazed and keen on whatabouting all the horrors going on with the truckers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 08:27:05 pm
I have no idea what you're talking about and i suspect you're not too sure either.

Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something?  Try harder.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 08:29:11 pm
Speaking of bad faith nonsense...

These **** are honking horns all day and night, running air raid sirens, setting off fireworks, blocking streets, occupying public spaces, harassing and assaulting residents.

Right so take down their license plates and fine them just like every other idiot who is parked and breaking the law.  What is Ottawa whining about? If truckers keep getting large tickets they'll go away.  Ottawa's mayor is an idiot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 08:33:13 pm
There is no overlap between ped.ophiles and environmentalists. There is an overlap between white supremacy and right wingers.

So if you support BLM you support riots and looting because there's some overlap in their members?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 06, 2022, 08:36:22 pm
My friend's elderly parents have been house bound since these jerks showed up. The horns have been torture apparently.

I don't how anyone in good faith can call this peaceful.

They are disturbing the peace so they should be fined.  But apparently Ottawa police are frozen in fear because of some dudes sitting in trucks honking their horns.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 10:00:12 pm
They are disturbing the peace so they should be fined.  But apparently Ottawa police are frozen in fear because of some dudes sitting in trucks honking their horns.
You have to love the irony of proponents of covid restrictions, like closing down society for weeks or months at a time now complaining about people being house behind bound for 6 days.  These people have no self awareness.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 06, 2022, 10:01:38 pm
My friend's elderly parents have been house bound since these jerks showed up. The horns have been torture apparently.

I don't how anyone in good faith can call this peaceful.
You’re not seeing the upside.  Your friends parents are being protected and quarantined from the very deadly covid-19 virus. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 10:51:12 pm
You’re not seeing the upside.  Your friends parents are being protected and quarantined from the very deadly covid-19 virus.

Yeah because not going to the gym for a few weeks is the same thing as being completely housebound and having horns going off all night outside your apartment.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 10:53:31 pm
So if you support BLM you support riots and looting because there's some overlap in their members?

No, the point is that if there is a pedo.phile at an environment protest, it's a coincidence as there isn't a huge pedo presence in the environmental movement.

The same cannot be said about white supremacy and far right.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 06, 2022, 11:01:24 pm
They are disturbing the peace so they should be fined.  But apparently Ottawa police are frozen in fear because of some dudes sitting in trucks honking their horns.

Well from what I'm told they're handing out tickets but it doesn't do anything in having them removed. As for not forcibly removing them, it would only feed their self-victimization narrative so their hands are tied as they try to diffuse the situation.

I think after the attempted murder video I posted earlier Trudeau should just get some cojones like his father did and call in the army. Clearly Ford Nation is Team White Power.

But like I said, that would only feed the self-victimization narrative so I sorta kinda get the conundrum. Look at the way you and Shady are already calling them tyrants...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 07, 2022, 08:11:06 am
BLM protesters burned down a police precinct in Minneapolis.  Indigenous protesters have used road blockades for decades.  The last one was in Toronto blocking highways.

This inspired you guys to tape up the doors and light fires in an apartment building where people were complaining about the convoy?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 09:11:59 am
Well from what I'm told they're handing out tickets but it doesn't do anything in having them removed. As for not forcibly removing them, it would only feed their self-victimization narrative so their hands are tied as they try to diffuse the situation.

I think after the attempted murder video I posted earlier Trudeau should just get some cojones like his father did and call in the army. Clearly Ford Nation is Team White Power.

But like I said, that would only feed the self-victimization narrative so I sorta kinda get the conundrum. Look at the way you and Shady are already calling them tyrants...
You’re deranged.  Ford is Team White Power?  What does that even mean?  Regardless, I pray that Turdeau calls in the military to remove the protesters.  The optics alive would be horrifying and broadcast around the world.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 09:19:47 am
Is this supposed to hurt my feelings or something?  Try harder.

No, just pointing out you've lost the thread. The Nazi thing had nothing to do with the convoy, it was more bullcrap from our resident cow's ass.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 09:29:10 am
No, just pointing out you've lost the thread. The Nazi thing had nothing to do with the convoy, it was more bullcrap from our resident cow's ass.
Complete nonsense.  It was a great example of irresponsible rhetoric that your side has participated in.  Calling everyone you disagree with nazis only escalates the situation.  As does calling them racist etc.  It can cause people to act out in violation as we saw in Winnipeg.  Winnipeg is now Canada’s Charlottesville.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 09:30:37 am
Complete nonsense.  It was a great example of irresponsible rhetoric that your side has participated in.  Calling everyone you disagree with nazis only escalates the situation.  As does calling them racist etc.  It can cause people to act out in violation as we saw in Winnipeg.  Winnipeg is now Canada’s Charlottesville.

lol lmfao rofl

to recap:

1. You claimed an L.A. based journalist was encouraging violence against convoy protestors, calling them Nazis and encouraging people to run them over

2. It turns out the guy's tweet from Jan. 31 had nothing to do with the convoy but was referencing a gathering of honest-to-god neo-Nazis that took place in Orlando, Florida.

3. When confronted with this fact you did the thing you always do which is ignore the facts and spin off into a tangent.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 07, 2022, 09:33:29 am
I agree that Charlottesville is the archetype for deplorable shitstain behaviour. Now if something had actually happened in Winnipeg, you might have been able to draw a comparison. Too bad all you got is an uninjured person targeted by an idiot roadrageaholic.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 10:51:28 am
Good news, the pro-mandate terrorist is being criminally charged.  I guess they didn’t believe his denial eh Bubber! 😂🤣

A man, 42, from Headingley is facing a number of charges, including four counts of assault with a weapon, dangerous operation of a vehicle causing bodily harm and failing to stop at the scene of an accident.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6340990
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 11:02:17 am
Good news, the pro-mandate terrorist is being criminally charged.  I guess they didn’t believe his denial eh Bubber! 😂🤣

A man, 42, from Headingley is facing a number of charges, including four counts of assault with a weapon, dangerous operation of a vehicle causing bodily harm and failing to stop at the scene of an accident.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6340990

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Three sustained minor injuries that didn't require medical attention, but one was taken to hospital, treated and released, he said.

Convoy chuds after getting bumped by a car:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D51u8y0WkAAL0om.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 11:13:42 am
Convoy chuds after getting bumped by a car:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D51u8y0WkAAL0om.jpg)
Good on you for downplaying violence.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 07, 2022, 11:21:09 am
Good news, the pro-mandate terrorist is being criminally charged.  I guess they didn’t believe his denial eh Bubber! 😂🤣

A man, 42, from Headingley is facing a number of charges, including four counts of assault with a weapon, dangerous operation of a vehicle causing bodily harm and failing to stop at the scene of an accident.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6340990
You're not stupid enough to believe they would let him go if it was determined to not be political...are you? Really?
Nevertheless, your citation indicates exactly what I told you:
"Some comments were made by the accused that tends to suggest this was not specifically about the [vaccine] mandates...He wasn't for or against any of the general views that are floating around this country."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 11:25:52 am
Good on you for downplaying violence.

I'm actually making fun of your histrionics in this thread about this incident but go off you big baby.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 11:26:17 am
You're not stupid enough to believe they would let him go if it was determined to not be political...are you? Really?
Nevertheless, your citation indicates exactly what I told you:
"Some comments were made by the accused that tends to suggest this was not specifically about the [vaccine] mandates...He wasn't for or against any of the general views that are floating around this country."
It could definitely not be about the vaccine mandates and instead be about hitting “racists” and “nazis”.  It was deliberate.  Stop downplaying violence.  Regardless, I don’t want to categorize all anti-convoy protesters as all the same.  I’m sure there are some fine people as well.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 11:27:36 am
I'm actually making fun of your histrionics in this thread about this incident but go off you big baby.
Histrionics about 4 people being deliberately hit with a car.  Stay classy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 11:33:40 am
Histrionics about 4 people being deliberately hit with a car.  Stay classy.

Oh indeed?

That’s what they’re saying.  This from the same side that insisted a baker HAVE to bake a cake for a gay wedding regardless of his religious views.  These progressive pukes move the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels.  This new example illustrates just how authoritarian they really are.  I honestly do hope some of them die of covid.  They deserve it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 11:37:32 am
Oh indeed?
Yes, for one it would be ironic, and two, the less authoritarians we have in Canada, the better.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 11:40:21 am
Yes, for one it would be ironic, and two, the less authoritarians we have in Canada, the better.

If anyone wants to know what someone who moves the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels actually looks like, check out this loser.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 11:43:09 am
If anyone wants to know what someone who moves the goalposts constantly, turning themselves into hypocritical pretzels actually looks like, check out this loser.
Right.  Because you didn’t tell me to die king before I wrote that right?  You really don’t like even just a little taste of own medicine.  Tough ****.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 01:14:49 pm
Right.  Because you didn’t tell me to die king before I wrote that right?  You really don’t like even just a little taste of own medicine.  Tough ****.

You're still a hypocrite, but keep on whining.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 07, 2022, 02:14:57 pm
freedum incel says what?

(https://i.imgur.com/v5TTUYr.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 07, 2022, 02:34:18 pm
reprieve from honkers - court grants {10 day} injunction to silence honking in downtown Ottawa (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 02:46:45 pm
reprieve from honkers - court grants {10 day} injunction to silence honking in downtown Ottawa (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/injunction-ottawa-granted-1.6342468)
Don’t worry buddy, it won’t be too much longer.  Just a few more days.  You know, to flatten the curve.  It’s just a minor temporary inconvenience.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 03:24:39 pm
It’s amazing how they magically all of a sudden care.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 03:33:59 pm
It’s amazing how they magically all of a sudden care.

It's amazing how you magically all of a sudden don't care.

Also there's a difference between business closing during a public health emergency and closing because a bunch of pricks are blockading your business and threatening and harassing your staff.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 04:13:59 pm
This thread is an abortion.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 05:08:12 pm
It's amazing how you magically all of a sudden don't care.

Also there's a difference between business closing during a public health emergency and closing because a bunch of pricks are blockading your business and threatening and harassing your staff.
Something that goes on for 2 years isn’t an emergency anymore.  It’s **** poor planning by government.  Besides, the government did the best job at blockading businesses and then didn’t even reimburse them for the costs.  Vaccine mandates for truckers is pointless now.  80+% of truckers are vaccinated, and truckers are not bad have not been the reason for covid infections.  The federal government needs to end this nonsense.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 05:27:12 pm
Jagoff Singh is now saying that the convoy protesters want to overthrow the government!  😂🤣
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 05:40:45 pm
Btw, even though I support this protest, I do realize that there’s a law of diminishing returns.  You can’t continue indefinitely, and if I were in charge of the protest, I would announce Valentine’s Day as the day the protest begins to withdraw.  The point has been made.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2022, 05:41:08 pm
Jagoff Singh is now saying that the convoy protesters want to overthrow the government!  😂🤣
(Attachment Link)

I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 05:54:20 pm
I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?
You can’t be serious.  Please don’t tell me you think they’re trying to overthrow the government by honking horns.  Next will be the claim that Putin is involved.  This is BlueAnon level stuff!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2022, 05:59:53 pm
Something that goes on for 2 years isn’t an emergency anymore.  It’s **** poor planning by government.  Besides, the government did the best job at blockading businesses and then didn’t even reimburse them for the costs.  Vaccine mandates for truckers is pointless now.  80+% of truckers are vaccinated, and truckers are not bad have not been the reason for covid infections.  The federal government needs to end this nonsense.

Did WW2 stop being an emergency after 1941? Emergencies are emergencies until they are no longer emergencies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2022, 06:02:34 pm
Jagoff Singh is now saying that the convoy protesters want to overthrow the government!  😂🤣
(Attachment Link)

Well Givesendgo is the same outfit that fund raised for the January 6 rioters, Kyle Rittenhouse and the Proud Boys among others.

You are known by the company you keep.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 07, 2022, 06:05:15 pm
Btw, even though I support this protest, I do realize that there’s a law of diminishing returns.  You can’t continue indefinitely, and if I were in charge of the protest, I would announce Valentine’s Day as the day the protest begins to withdraw.  The point has been made.

Sensible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 06:08:18 pm
I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?

That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 06:13:48 pm
Btw, even though I support this protest, I do realize that there’s a law of diminishing returns.  You can’t continue indefinitely, and if I were in charge of the protest, I would announce Valentine’s Day as the day the protest begins to withdraw.  The point has been made.

They have a right to protest, they don't have a right to honk their horns to cause a nuisance (disturbing the peace) or the right to illegally park in the middle of public streets.

Blackmail using public infrastructure isn't a legal protest tactic.  Protest is speech, it's not a license to do whatever you want and break the law.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 06:23:12 pm
Jagoff Singh is now saying that the convoy protesters want to overthrow the government!  😂🤣

Singh is a liar then.  The truckers are a public nuisance and that's the extent of their threat.  They're breaking city bylaws, they aren't trying to commit treason lol.

The hyperbole and panic on much of the left caused by these protests is hilarious.  People are freaking out even in this thread.  It's just some trucks parked in the street.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 07, 2022, 06:41:43 pm
Quote
I guess you the whole "Memorandum of Understanding" thing where they wanted to replace the government leaked out of one of the holes in your head, huh?
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).
Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 07, 2022, 06:47:29 pm
They have a right to protest, they don't have a right to honk their horns to cause a nuisance (disturbing the peace) or the right to illegally park in the middle of public streets.

Blackmail using public infrastructure isn't a legal protest tactic.  Protest is speech, it's not a license to do whatever you want and break the law.

You just described everything that they’re doing…. It’s not a protest at all. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 07, 2022, 06:48:41 pm
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

They wanted the Senate and GG to take over governing Canada? 

Why, that doesn’t sound like they wanted to replace the government at all. 

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 06:55:43 pm
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)
#BlueAnon
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 06:56:28 pm
I almost spit out my coffee when I first saw this! 😂
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 07:10:13 pm
Now Trudeau’s lackey Mark Carney is talking insurrection and sedition.  It’s like they’re using a cookie cutter delegitimization tutorial guide on loan from Democrats.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 07, 2022, 07:10:58 pm
Well Givesendgo is the same outfit that fund raised for the January 6 rioters, Kyle Rittenhouse and the Proud Boys among others.

You are known by the company you keep.
Speaking of "The company you keep"... not sure if this has been posted yet (the thread has moved fast so its not always easy to keep caught up)....

From: https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covid-trucker-convoy-organizers-hate/
...anti-hate experts allege those with white nationalist and Islamophobic views don’t just represent the fringes of the movement but are among the organizers of the convoy.... Global News contacted all the organizers mentioned in this story, but none responded by the time of publication. Jason LaFace, an Ontario organizer, did pick up the call, but upon the reporter identifying themselves, immediately laughed, said “no thank you,” and hung up....There is a GoFundMe page...That fundraiser has two names on it: Tamara Lich, and B.J. Dichter....B.J. Dichter warned listeners about the dangers of “political Islamists,” and said the Liberal Party is “infested with Islamists.”...Another dominant voice within the convoy community is a man named Patrick King....In other video footage, King can be seen repeating racist conspiracy theories.... Jason LaFace...shared an image titled “Canadian politicians who are not born in Canada” and included his own caption: “traitors to our country.”

Its amazing that so many of the protesters talk about 'peace', but more and more of these sorts of things keep popping up...

"We want a peaceful protest"
But what about the people with white nationalist ties organizing it?
"Well, that's unimportant. We're here for freedom"
But what about the people carrying nazi and confederate flags?
"Ignore them, its all about freedom"
But what about them dancing and urinating on the war memorial?
"They're not important"
But what about them stealing food meant for the homeless?
"They don't represent us"
What about them harassing patients at local medical clinics?
"Well, that's not everyone doing that"
What about them harassing business owners?
"Not everyone is doing that"

I recognize that protests can sometimes attract malcontents, but just how often can these excuses be used? And why would anyone continue to be associated with the protest given all of the above issues? (I'm not sure about you, but if I show up anywhere and people are waving nazi flags or urinating on the war memorial, I am not going to stick around, since I have no interest in being associated with such people. Yet the rest of the protesters seem to be quite content to continue associating with a group that contains such elements.)

The MAGAchud of course try to engage in "Whataboutism" and point to the black lives matters protests, which were mostly peaceful but had occasional episodes of violence and other crimes break out. But even, many of the crimes associated with the BLM movement were actually done by people who were unassociated with the protests and just wanted to use it as a cover for their activities. (And, it should be noted, many BLM organizers have actually confronted/reported those engaging in crimes.) Where do we see the equivalent with the trucker protests? Why are the remaining protesters who are supposedly all about "peace" not reporting the criminals among their ranks?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 07:11:06 pm
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

Both the Senate and the GG are unelected. Demanding that they override the actions of democratically elected representatives should be seen as... questionable. Its not exactly an 'overthrow' of the government, but it still is calling for actions which are undemocratic.

(If there really was a possible issue with constitutionality, it would have been up to the supreme court to decide, not the senate or GG.)

Yes i agree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 07:12:21 pm
Now the mayor of Ottawa is complaining about the convoy protest having bouncy castles and hot tubs.  Nothing says overthrow the government than a group of people with festival activities! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 07:14:39 pm
You just described everything that they’re doing…. It’s not a protest at all.

Well it is a protest, but many are also doing it while committing a bunch of nuisance crimes and they need to stop committing said crimes.

I support peaceful protest, not illegal activity.  My standard is no different with antifa rioters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 07:17:54 pm
They wanted the Senate and GG to take over governing Canada? 

Why, that doesn’t sound like they wanted to replace the government at all.

They are saying the Senate and GG is a check on the power of the House of Commons/PMO, which is true.  But by convention that's only used in the case of extreme circumstances because they're unelected, and vaccine mandates aren't an extreme circumstance.  The truckers should use the courts.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2022, 07:22:37 pm
Well it is a protest, but many are also doing it while committing a bunch of nuisance crimes and they need to stop committing said crimes.

I support peaceful protest, not illegal activity.  My standard is no different with antifa rioters.
Well said, that’s why I don’t take this dufus’ concern serious, or any of the others of the band if merry hypocrites.  These people said nothing during riots when buildings and vehicles were set on fire and burned down.  Now they’re very concerned, like all good concern trolls are right now.

Btw, breaking news, the driver in the Winnipeg attack had his mask on while he was driving.  Kind of a big deal.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 07, 2022, 07:45:51 pm
They are saying the Senate and GG is a check on the power of the House of Commons/PMO, which is true.  But by convention that's only used in the case of extreme circumstances because they're unelected, and vaccine mandates aren't an extreme circumstance.  The truckers should use the courts.

LOL

What conventions are those?  Please be specific.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 07, 2022, 09:23:56 pm
LOL

What conventions are those?  Please be specific.

Unwritten constitutional conventions, which are part of our constitution.  Much of our constitution is unwritten and are simply followed, because our system is under common law and not civil law.  ie:  The title of "prime minister" and their duties/roles and how they are chosen etc aren't mentioned anywhere in our constitution and are just things we follow.

So if the Senate or GG overrode the House of Commons over something pedestrian we would have a constitutional crisis.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/constitution

https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca/2019/07/unwritten-constitutional-principles/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 07, 2022, 11:33:06 pm
Well it is a protest, but many are also doing it while committing a bunch of nuisance crimes and they need to stop committing said crimes.

I support peaceful protest, not illegal activity.  My standard is no different with antifa rioters.


By that standard every truck that is blocking the road is breaking the law so pretty much the whole 'protest' is illegal.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 12:14:13 am
interim CPC leader Candice Bergen & MP Gladu (CPC Sarnia–Lambton) having dinner with freedum convoy protesters!

(https://i.imgur.com/N74Fl9l.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 12:29:32 am
Monday evening, Alberta RCMP report traffic blockade at the Coutts border crossing... again!

(https://i.imgur.com/htTq3rt.gif)

and in the summer of 2020 it was with such 'fanfare and bravado' that Alberta Premier Kenney announced the passage of 'Bill 1 - The Critical Infrastructure Defence Act... a bill tailor made to deal with such a blockade.

of course it just gets better with the trucker antics today/this evening blocking traffic flow on the Ambassador Bridge between Windsor and Detroit... the single busiest international land border crossing in North America, accommodating 27% of the approximately $400 billion in annual trade between Canada and the U.S. C'mon Ontario Premier Ford, you've managed to become invisible during the last 10 days of the Ottawa insurrection... will you even say word 1 about the lawlessness occurring at the Ambassador Bridge today/tonight?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 12:50:09 am
per CTV News, "leaked" CPC leader Bergen email in which she advises:
=> senior Conservative MPs not to tell members of the trucker convoy to leave Ottawa and instead
=> to make the protests Prime Minister Trudeau's problem

which became part of the CPC "questioning strategy" during Thursday's HOC Question Period
(https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5767223.1643934842!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg)

Quote from: CPC leader Candice Bergen
Where is the olive branch, because Canadians are looking for an olive branch…The government doesn't have to agree. They don't have to even like the protesters and the trucks that are parked outside but they need to provide a solution. So could they please tell Canadians what the solution is to get past this impasse?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 01:00:09 am
PM Trudeau during last night's HOC 'emergency debate':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EEhMP2pZoY
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 01:23:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/8y9yg6O.gif)

of course in recent days none other than Trump has commented on the Ottawa "freedum convoy"... along with Florida Governor DeSantis & Texas' Attorney General vowing to investigate GoFundMe's handling of donations made by Floridians and Texans. And along comes Fox News this last evening where every announcer covered it (yes, Hannity, Tucker and Ingraham all had segments extolling the virtues of the "mandate busting, freedom loving" Canadian truckers!)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 01:50:43 am
(https://i.imgur.com/8y9yg6O.gif)

I like how the trucker convoy is made out to be some white supremacist protest and yet I've seen a grand total of zero big rigs in Ottawa flying a swastika, confederate flag, or any other racist symbol.  If someone can post an example I'll be waiting...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 01:53:51 am
of course in recent days none other than Trump has commented on the Ottawa "freedum convoy"... along with Florida Governor DeSantis & Texas' Attorney General vowing to investigate GoFundMe's handling of donations made by Floridians and Texans. And along comes Fox News this last evening where every announcer covered it (yes, Hannity, Tucker and Ingraham all had segments extolling the virtues of the "mandate busting, freedom loving" Canadian truckers!)

Trump says he likes peanut butter = OMG peanut butter is racist alt-right and trying to start its own Jan. 6.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 05:18:27 am
of course in recent days none other than Trump has commented on the Ottawa "freedum convoy"... along with Florida Governor DeSantis & Texas' Attorney General vowing to investigate GoFundMe's handling of donations made by Floridians and Texans. And along comes Fox News this last evening where every announcer covered it (yes, Hannity, Tucker and Ingraham all had segments extolling the virtues of the "mandate busting, freedom loving" Canadian truckers!)
Trump says he likes peanut butter = OMG peanut butter is racist alt-right and trying to start its own Jan. 6.

Quote from: former U.S. President Trump
The Freedom Convoy is peacefully protesting the harsh policies of far left lunatic Justin Trudeau who has destroyed Canada with insane Covid mandates.

notwithstanding the U.S. has a similar/like national border policy requiring truckers to be vaccinated to enter the U.S., clearly dipshyte Trump doesn't have the understanding to distinguish provincial jurisdictions and COVID restrictions therein. Of course not - it's just Trump being Trump; however, once he did comment it wasn't long after that Republicans and right-wing U.S. media started to similarly chime in. The waldo listed several but forgot to include another profile Republican azzhole, Ted Cruz, who has become one of the more vocal supporters of the 'freedum convoy'. The rest of your blathering isn't worth commenting on! But don't hesitate to actually comment on why so many profile Republicans have offered their support to the Ottawa truckerShyteShow!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:13:50 am
Well said, that’s why I don’t take this dufus’ concern serious, or any of the others of the band if merry hypocrites.  These people said nothing during riots when buildings and vehicles were set on fire and burned down.  Now they’re very concerned, like all good concern trolls are right now.

That's not true at all. I thought it was pretty dope when they burned down that cop shop for example but don't support torching mom and pop businesses (IDGAF about looting WalMart or whatever though).

But the main point is, even if anyone actually supported the illegal activity tat took place next to the largely peaceful BLM protests but opposes the "trucker" convoy, their hypocrisy doesn't give people like you a free pass to indulge in hypocritical whataboutism of your own. In fact, it makes you just as bad as them. At least someone like Graham is being consistent, you're a toddler who thinks "they started it!" is an intellectual defense.Oh and also you're a compulsive liar.

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Btw, breaking news, the driver in the Winnipeg attack had his mask on while he was driving. Kind of a big deal.

LOL it really isn't.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:17:43 am
That never happened.  They wanted the Senate and the GG to uphold the constitution because the Trudeau gov won't abide by it (so they say).

"They didn't want to overthrow the government, they just wanted to replace the democratically elected government with a committee made of the Senate, Governor General and representatives of the convoy!"
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:20:29 am
I like how the trucker convoy is made out to be some white supremacist protest and yet I've seen a grand total of zero big rigs in Ottawa flying a swastika, confederate flag, or any other racist symbol.  If someone can post an example I'll be waiting...

I like how you had to specify that the flag had to be attached to a rig so you could duck the fact that Nazi and Confederate flags have been spotted at the protest. In any case, here's a pic of a big rig with the flag of the Three Percenters, a designated terrorist group.

(https://www.wsws.org/asset/b28df662-d26f-422c-996e-d45e5997ea2d?rendition=image1280)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 09:40:27 am
I like how the trucker convoy is made out to be some white supremacist protest and yet I've seen a grand total of zero big rigs in Ottawa flying a swastika, confederate flag, or any other racist symbol.  If someone can post an example I'll be waiting...
First of all, the presence of the swastika and confederate flags is not the only evidence of participation by white supremacist groups. (I have posted a reference showing some of the organizers have such ties.)

Secondly... nobody claimed that the swastika/confederate flags were on the rigs. They were, however, carried by those in the crowd.

See: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/4/ottawa-residents-decry-anti-vaccine-trucker-occupation
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 09:42:40 am
First of all, the presence of the swastika and confederate flags is not the only evidence of participation by white supremacist groups. (I have posted a reference showing some of the organizers have such ties.)

Secondly... nobody claimed that the swastika/confederate flags were on the rigs. They were, however, carried by those in the crowd.

See: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/4/ottawa-residents-decry-anti-vaccine-trucker-occupation
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 09:46:13 am
Are death threats part of the legitimate political discourse? Is this just something that we can chalk up to the "peaceful" protests?

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357
An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

Admittedly, there is a little bit of Schadenfreude going on here (since he was supportive of the truckers and doing the work for their benefit).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 09:51:55 am
Are death threats part of the legitimate political discourse? Is this just something that we can chalk up to the "peaceful" protests?

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-convoy-protest-shack-towed-reaction-1.6342357
An Ottawa tow truck operator says he has received hundreds of calls, including death threats, from protest supporters who mistakenly believe he removed a plywood shack from Confederation Park at the request of police, when he was actually helping protesters.

Admittedly, there is a little bit of Schadenfreude going on here (since he was supportive of the truckers and doing the work for their benefit).
Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 09:53:26 am
Remember when libtards called BLM riots mostly peaceful when there were building on fire?  Yeah, me too, that’s why their concern trolling has zero credibility.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:56:14 am
Remember when libtards called BLM riots mostly peaceful when there were building on fire?  Yeah, me too, that’s why their concern trolling has zero credibility.
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The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 10:05:24 am
The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
Yup, as your article states:

- > 90% of the protests were peaceful
- When there was violence, it was often due to police response to the protests (such as using tear gas, taking an otherwise peaceful protest and escalating it)
- Right wing militia groups also were involved, adding to the violence

And then there is this:

From: https://abcnews.go.com/US/turning-point-black-lives-matter-organizers-wing-backlash/story?id=72863444
In a more measured response, U.S. Attorney General William Barr released a statement on May 30 that attempted to separate the rioters from the peaceful protesters. "With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements,” Barr said, adding that “groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.'.... two lawyers, who claim to have no affiliation with BLM, were arrested in Brooklyn, New York, on federal charges after being caught on surveillance video allegedly hurling Molotov cocktails....police in Santa Monica, California, thwarted what they said appeared to be a coordinated looting spree being perpetrated by non-protesters using a demonstration as cover.... police alleged that gang members and "opportunist action by regular criminals" were responsible for looting stores...Philadelphia police said criminals used BLM protests as camouflage for a crime rampage

I think it says something when even William Barr (one of Stubby McBonespur's big defenders in his administration) admits that much of the crime and violence attributed to BLM protests had nothing to do with the protesters themselves.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 10:09:47 am
The facts, as always, don't care about your feelings.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/blm-protests-peaceful-report-trnd/index.html
Yes, burning buildings are always a sign of peaceful protest. 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 10:10:41 am
Yup, as your article states:

- > 90% of the protests were peaceful
- When there was violence, it was often due to police response to the protests (such as using tear gas, taking an otherwise peaceful protest and escalating it)
- Right wing militia groups also were involved, adding to the violence

And then there is this:

From: https://abcnews.go.com/US/turning-point-black-lives-matter-organizers-wing-backlash/story?id=72863444
In a more measured response, U.S. Attorney General William Barr released a statement on May 30 that attempted to separate the rioters from the peaceful protesters. "With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements,” Barr said, adding that “groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.'.... two lawyers, who claim to have no affiliation with BLM, were arrested in Brooklyn, New York, on federal charges after being caught on surveillance video allegedly hurling Molotov cocktails....police in Santa Monica, California, thwarted what they said appeared to be a coordinated looting spree being perpetrated by non-protesters using a demonstration as cover.... police alleged that gang members and "opportunist action by regular criminals" were responsible for looting stores...Philadelphia police said criminals used BLM protests as camouflage for a crime rampage

I think it says something when even William Barr (one of Stubby McBonespur's big defenders in his administration) admits that much of the crime and violence attributed to BLM protests had nothing to do with the protesters themselves.
90% huh?  Cool, that’s almost as high as the convoy protest! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 10:13:35 am
I like how you had to specify that the flag had to be attached to a rig so you could duck the fact that Nazi and Confederate flags have been spotted at the protest. In any case, here's a pic of a big rig with the flag of the Three Percenters, a designated terrorist group.

Right because some random racist dude who lives in Ottawa and shows up with a confederate flag isn't a part of the convoy.

The 3 Percenters aren't a racist/nazi/white supremacist group so the Graham Challenge remains unclaimed.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 10:14:31 am
Yes, burning buildings are always a sign of peaceful protest. 😂

It must suck for you to have all these deep seeded beliefs that are so easily proven to be utter bullshit.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 10:16:58 am
It must suck for you to have all these deep seeded beliefs that are so easily proven to be utter bullshit.
Hey Baghdad Bob, the building is literally on fire.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 10:21:23 am
Right because some random racist dude who lives in Ottawa and shows up with a confederate flag isn't a part of the convoy.

Now do the organizers.

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The 3 Percenters aren't a racist/nazi/white supremacist group so the Graham Challenge remains unclaimed.

Just two examples from the ADL:

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Clarence, Illinois, July 2018: Michael Hari and several other members of a small militia group dubbed the "White Rabbit Three Percent Illinois Patriot Freedom Fighters Militia" were arrested on a variety of charges in connection to the bombing of a mosque in Minnesota in August 2017, and the failed bombing of an abortion clinic in Illinois in November 2017.

Garden City, Kansas, October 2016: Three members of a tiny Kansas militia group dubbed The Crusaders, an offshoot of the Kansas III% Security Force militia, were arrested in connection with a plot to use truck bombs to destroy an apartment complex housing Muslim immigrants from Somalia.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 10:21:47 am
Hey Baghdad Bob, the building is literally on fire.

I love how you're still too goddamned stupid to understand how this argument can be easily flipped on its head to indict your convoy chuds. Whataboutism is a two-way street you know.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 10:49:19 am
I love how you're still too goddamned stupid to understand how this argument can be easily flipped on its head to indict your convoy chuds. Whataboutism is a two-way street you know.
You’re the one categorizing all of the convoy protesters based on the actions of the very few.  Why don’t you do the same with every group?  Hypocrite.  The building was literally on fire dude.  You’re a clown show.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 10:52:27 am
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I like how you had to specify that the flag had to be attached to a rig so you could duck the fact that Nazi and Confederate flags have been spotted at the protest. In any case, here's a pic of a big rig with the flag of the Three Percenters, a designated terrorist group.
Right because some random racist dude who lives in Ottawa
Ummm... do we know that he is actually from Ottawa, and not someone who was part of the group but just brought his flag with him?
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and shows up with a confederate flag isn't a part of the convoy.
They are still part of the protests, and neither the organizers of the protests nor the other individuals who would have seen him took any steps to get rid of him.
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The 3 Percenters aren't a racist/nazi/white supremacist group so the Graham Challenge remains unclaimed.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Percenters
One Canadian expert, Maxime Fiset, a former neo-Nazi who works with the Centre for the Prevention of Radicalization Leading to Violence, considers the group the "most dangerous" extremist group in Canada... six men associated with the group were indicted for conspiracy, and Canada declared the group a terrorist entity....  in response to Black Lives Matter protest...the Three Percenters' Facebook page featured numerous racist comments made by its supporters.

From: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/01/three-percenters-what-gun-toting-group-and-what-do-its-supporters-want/385463002/
In years prior, Three Percenter groups have protested refugee resettlement in Idaho

From: https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/three-percenters
The Three Percenter concept originated in 2008 on a blog...run by Mike Vanderboegh, an Alabama-based anti-government extremist...Vanderboegh briefly became involved with the Minutemen, an anti-immigrant border vigilante group.
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There were even Three Percenters among the militia contingent in Charlottesville during the violent white supremacist “Unite the Right” rally... One former member of a Three Percenter militia group, Alex Ramos, actually participated with several white supremacists in an assault on an African-American man...After Charlottesville, Three Percenters largely abandoned the idea of showing up at white supremacist events, though they have cooperated with other extremist groups, such as Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys...One outspoken anti-Muslim Three Percenter, Chris Hill, the leader of the Georgia-headquartered III% Security Force, claimed recently that Muslims “want to... destroy us and our way of life.”
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Selected Three Percenter-related criminal incidents in recent years include: a small militia group dubbed the "White Rabbit Three Percent Illinois Patriot Freedom Fighters Militia" were arrested...in connection to the bombing of a mosque...Three members of a tiny Kansas militia...an offshoot of the Kansas III% Security Force militia, were arrested in connection with a plot...to destroy an apartment complex housing Muslim immigrants


So you have a group that was founded (in part) by a guy who was involved in anti-immigrant activity, contains people who regularly spout racist statements on line, has worked with the racist group "Proud boys", and has had multiple members (including leaders!!!) either spouting racist statements, or actually involved in racially motivated crimes.

Yeah, they might make questionable claims about how they are "not discriminatory" or how they "oppose violence", or that they are just against government overreach, but when they have that sort of track record, I think we can chalk up those claims as bunk.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 10:52:35 am
You’re the one categorizing all of the convoy protesters based on the actions of the very few. Why don’t you do the same with every group? Hypocrite.  The building was literally on fire dude.  You’re a clown show.

Why don't you? You can't clutch your pearls over people calling the convoy chuds racist thugs while mocking the (factual) claim that the BLM protests were mostly peaceful.

Anyway i'm not even sure where I categorized the convoy chuds as anything but a bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 11:38:48 am
Who’s part of the fringe minority again?
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 11:46:00 am
Who’s part of the fringe minority again?
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 11:48:47 am
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You’re grasping at hypocrisy.  Good luck to you when all mandates end soon. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 11:51:30 am
You’re grasping at hypocrisy.  Good luck to you when all mandates end soon.

I'm grasping your mom right now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 11:52:11 am
From: https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/convoy-protester-shoved-heckled-ottawa-resident-at-neighbourhood-park-5017905
An Ottawa resident says he was shoved and heckled at by truck convoy protesters while walking through his neighbourhood park on Monday... "All I did was raise a camera and I was attacked by several people and nothing was done. That should concern everyone...People have been verbally abused, they’ve had feces left on their property, they’ve had rocks thrown at their houses, teenagers have been intimidated...”

Assaulting people, property damage, intimidation...

Add that to the confederate/nazi flags, the organizers associated with racist groups, the stealing of food from homes shelters, the intimidation of people at medical clinics, the urination on the war memorial, the harassment of businesses, the death threats against a tow truck driver... yet we somehow get told that somehow this is non-representative of the group as a whole.

Expecting the typical "Whataboutism" and/or "Prove that these are protestors" in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 11:56:41 am
From: https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/convoy-protester-shoved-heckled-ottawa-resident-at-neighbourhood-park-5017905
An Ottawa resident says he was shoved and heckled at by truck convoy protesters while walking through his neighbourhood park on Monday... "All I did was raise a camera and I was attacked by several people and nothing was done. That should concern everyone...People have been verbally abused, they’ve had feces left on their property, they’ve had rocks thrown at their houses, teenagers have been intimidated...”

Assaulting people, property damage, intimidation...

Add that to the confederate/nazi flags, the organizers associated with racist groups, the stealing of food from homes shelters, the intimidation of people at medical clinics, the urination on the war memorial, the harassment of businesses, the death threats against a tow truck driver... yet we somehow get told that somehow this is non-representative of the group as a whole.

Expecting the typical "Whataboutism" and/or "Prove that these are protestors" in 3...2...1...

Yabbut some guy in Winnipeg bumped some people with his car!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 11:58:42 am
Yabbut some guy in Winnipeg bumped some people with his car!
The guy in Winnipeg was just concerned about "Mah Freedum!" to drive his car wherever he wanted.

If the person didn't want to get hit by a car, its his responsibility to take the appropriate precautions.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 12:22:07 pm
Yabbut some guy in Winnipeg bumped some people with his car!
Tried to run them over, with a mask on, then fled the scene.  But people are honking horns, so that's kinda bad too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 12:23:05 pm
The guy in Winnipeg was just concerned about "Mah Freedum!" to drive his car wherever he wanted.

If the person didn't want to get hit by a car, its his responsibility to take the appropriate precautions.
And the people he hit were just worried about "Mah Secuuurity".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 12:24:02 pm
From: https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/convoy-protester-shoved-heckled-ottawa-resident-at-neighbourhood-park-5017905
An Ottawa resident says he was shoved and heckled at by truck convoy protesters while walking through his neighbourhood park on Monday... "All I did was raise a camera and I was attacked by several people and nothing was done. That should concern everyone...People have been verbally abused, they’ve had feces left on their property, they’ve had rocks thrown at their houses, teenagers have been intimidated...”

Assaulting people, property damage, intimidation...

Add that to the confederate/nazi flags, the organizers associated with racist groups, the stealing of food from homes shelters, the intimidation of people at medical clinics, the urination on the war memorial, the harassment of businesses, the death threats against a tow truck driver... yet we somehow get told that somehow this is non-representative of the group as a whole.

Expecting the typical "Whataboutism" and/or "Prove that these are protestors" in 3...2...1...
Cool story bro, now do BLM.  What other groups to you categorize based on the actions of a few?  Or is it just the convoy?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 12:29:32 pm
Damn!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 12:37:01 pm
Cool story bro, now do BLM.  What other groups to you categorize based on the actions of a few?  Or is it just the convoy?

what about what about what about what about

STFU
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 12:39:15 pm
Damn!
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Ah yes, the true sign of a dictatorship is letting a bunch of yahoos shut down your nation's capital for more than a week while the cops sit around with their thumbs up their arses.

Why are so many conservatives such stupid babies?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 12:47:38 pm
Ah yes, the true sign of a dictatorship is letting a bunch of yahoos shut down your nation's capital for more than a week while the cops sit around with their thumbs up their arses.
It is frustrating to see the police treat these covidiots with such kid gloves. (Especially when they have been a lot more forceful when dealing with other protestors.) Between all of the crimes on parliament hill, and them "taking over" the parking lot of the local baseball stadium...

On the other hand, I did hear a commentator make an interesting point... maybe its a good thing the police have stood back. By allowing the covidiots to demonstrate their "respect for the law", it hurts their reputation. On the other hand, if they **** down right at the beginning,  it might have caused at least  some people to be more sympathetic to them. But the longer it goes on, the more images we see of confederate flags on parliament hill, the more stories we hear of assaults, etc. the less people will be sympathetic.

I just hope the police eventually decide to follow up, with arrests and fines aplenty AFTER the protests are over.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 12:56:15 pm
It is frustrating to see the police treat these covidiots with such kid gloves. (Especially when they have been a lot more forceful when dealing with other protestors.) Between all of the crimes on parliament hill, and them "taking over" the parking lot of the local baseball stadium...

On the other hand, I did hear a commentator make an interesting point... maybe its a good thing the police have stood back. By allowing the covidiots to demonstrate their "respect for the law", it hurts their reputation. On the other hand, if they **** down right at the beginning,  it might have caused at least  some people to be more sympathetic to them. But the longer it goes on, the more images we see of confederate flags on parliament hill, the more stories we hear of assaults, etc. the less people will be sympathetic.

I just hope the police eventually decide to follow up, with arrests and fines aplenty AFTER the protests are over.
Once again you're categorized a whole group based on the actions of a few.  Which other groups do you stereotype the same way?  Muslims?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2022, 01:02:10 pm
Once again you're categorized a whole group based on the actions of a few.  Which other groups do you stereotype the same way?  Muslims?
BLM protesters?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 01:02:49 pm
BLM protesters?
I heard that they were mostly peaceful.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 01:22:35 pm
Expecting the typical "Whataboutism" and/or "Prove that these are protestors" in 3...2...1...

Once again you're categorized a whole group based on the actions of a few.  Which other groups do you stereotype the same way?  Muslims?

(https://c.tenor.com/VFQfknadAl8AAAAC/carl-chef-kiss.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 01:31:33 pm
(https://c.tenor.com/VFQfknadAl8AAAAC/carl-chef-kiss.gif)
We've already noted that you're a massive hypocrite, the Black Dog double-standard has been well established.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 01:38:38 pm
We've already noted that you're a massive hypocrite, the Black Dog double-standard has been well established.

I'm bored. You're boring.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 01:48:20 pm
I'm bored. You're boring.
We can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 01:49:48 pm
I'm bored. You're boring.
What, you don't like answering questions that have already been asked and answered multiple times before? Asked by a troll who's no brighter than a right-wing version of Eliza that posts the occasional meme image they downloaded from a neo-nazi web site?

How can anyone get bored with that?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 02:13:12 pm
What, you don't like answering questions that have already been asked and answered multiple times before? Asked by a troll who's no brighter than a right-wing version of Eliza that posts the occasional meme image they downloaded from a neo-nazi web site?

How can anyone get bored with that?
You still haven't answered on what basis you choose to categorize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.  Please explain.    Or you could admit that's its based soley on politics.  You don't like their cause.  That's what it's based on.  Just be honest already, you've been filibustering for days now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:18:34 pm
Apparently in Canada you can't travel, live your life or hug your loved ones, which is news to me and everyone else.

I don't understand what world these people (https://twitter.com/canadiangirls99/status/1490895745259835392?s=20&t=dhVLxucSfYMYeoKPt32uLQ) live on.

(Side note: it's fascinating to see Cons adopt the language of social justice warriors with all this "traumatized", "marginalized, "privilege" when they laugh at these concepts any other time).


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:21:48 pm
You still haven't answered on what basis you choose to categorize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.  Please explain.    Or you could admit that's its based soley on politics.  You don't like their cause.  That's what it's based on.  Just be honest already, you've been filibustering for days now.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:24:33 pm
What, you don't like answering questions that have already been asked and answered multiple times before? Asked by a troll who's no brighter than a right-wing version of Eliza that posts the occasional meme image they downloaded from a neo-nazi web site?

How can anyone get bored with that?

Maybe he has a TBI that causes anterograde amnesia, but I'm pretty much done giving him the oxygen he's clearly been starved for since birth.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2022, 02:28:36 pm
You still haven't answered on what basis you choose to categorize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few.  Please explain.    Or you could admit that's its based soley on politics.  You don't like their cause.  That's what it's based on.  Just be honest already, you've been filibustering for days now.
Was that your basis when you said BLM is a terrorist organization?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 02:32:25 pm
Was that your basis when you said BLM is a terrorist organization?
My basis was the burning buildings, particularly the attacks on court houses, businesses and police precincts.  You know, the mostly peaceful protests. 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:39:00 pm
Remember back when this started and they were still pretending this was about the damage a vaccine mandate would cause to the supply chain to collapse and shelves to go empty?

Coutts border still blocked (https://twitter.com/RCMPAlberta/status/1490914780395225088?s=20&t=5GdG2I4jbhqC24OgcODYjg)

Handful of goons blocking Ambassador Bridge in Windsor (https://twitter.com/WindsorPolice/status/1491096746336059392?s=20&t=kfdaYhG4eTkkVRkl-5t7ZA)

Call in the bulldozer and get this over with.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 02:42:13 pm
Remember back when this started and they were still pretending this was about the damage a vaccine mandate would cause to the supply chain to collapse and shelves to go empty?

Coutts border still blocked (https://twitter.com/RCMPAlberta/status/1490914780395225088?s=20&t=5GdG2I4jbhqC24OgcODYjg)

Handful of goons blocking Ambassador Bridge in Windsor (https://twitter.com/WindsorPolice/status/1491096746336059392?s=20&t=kfdaYhG4eTkkVRkl-5t7ZA)

Call in the bulldozer and get this over with.
No justice, no peace.  Have the mandates been terminated yet?  Justin could end this all today.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:44:30 pm
No justice, no peace.  Have the mandates been terminated yet?  Justin could end this all today.

Most vax mandates are provincial, but i'm not surprised you're ignorant of that fact.

Also, if Trudeau ended the trucker vax mandate today...the unvaxxed idiots still wouldn't be able to cross the border.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:48:03 pm
Watching the footage of the Windsor blockade, there are almost no rigs, it's all cars and trucks choking off actual commercial vehicles. This has nothing to do with mandates if it ever did.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 02:53:45 pm
Here's one of the convoy organizers boasting (https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1490941412736602112?s=20&t=1iMddhEF-SPjfPwftCMjdw) about owning two Confederate flags.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 03:00:41 pm
Most vax mandates are provincial, but i'm not surprised you're ignorant of that fact.

Also, if Trudeau ended the trucker vax mandate today...the unvaxxed idiots still wouldn't be able to cross the border.
You think that unvaccinated truckers are the main cause of infection?  Ridiculous.  This is all theatre at this point.  That’s why most of Europe has done away with it.  Even blue states have begun to end restrictions.  Trudeau just needs to choose what’s important.  Being a dictator, or ending the protest.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 03:10:23 pm
You think that unvaccinated truckers are the main cause of infection?  Ridiculous.

Where tf did you get that from?

Quote
This is all theatre at this point.  That’s why most of Europe has done away with it.  Even blue states have begun to end restrictions.  Trudeau just needs to choose what’s important.  Being a dictator, or ending the protest.

What's important is ending this blackmail attempt by a lawless mob by force if need be.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 03:45:32 pm
Where tf did you get that from?

What's important is ending this blackmail attempt by a lawless mob by force if need be.
If the mandate had nothing to do with pandemic reasons, why even bother.  You know who else used “blackmail?”, Ghandi, that’s the whole point of non violent civil disobedience.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 08, 2022, 03:55:36 pm
Truckers = Gandhi

LOL 😂

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 04:16:12 pm
If the mandate had nothing to do with pandemic reasons, why even bother.  You know who else used “blackmail?”, Ghandi, that’s the whole point of non violent civil disobedience.

I dunno if I would call causing the very thing you claimed to be protesting against an act of civil disobedience so much as an act of sabotage.

These blockaders are taking away the freedom of other people to move their goods and themselves. That is wrong and the government has laws and tools in place to combat it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 04:23:00 pm
Quote
You think that unvaccinated truckers are the main cause of infection?  Ridiculous.
Where tf did you get that from?
Probably where he gets all his information from... neo-nazi web sites filtered through whatever passes through whatever grey matter he has that isn't occupied by the sexual excitement he gets from pretending to "own the libs".

Since when did he need any sort of facts on? He's more than capable of building straw men, misrepresenting information, and engaging in trolling behavior all on his own.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 04:44:14 pm
Where tf did you get that from?
Probably where he gets all his information from... neo-nazi web sites filtered through whatever passes through whatever grey matter he has that isn't occupied by the sexual excitement he gets from pretending to "own the libs".

Since when did he need any sort of facts on? He's more than capable of building straw men, misrepresenting information, and engaging in trolling behavior all on his own.

i can't imagined logging on every day to go to a website where a bunch of strangers spend the day telling me I'm an idiot, but our man is different.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/002/112/840/9cf)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 04:52:56 pm
i can't imagined logging on every day to go to a website where a bunch of strangers spend the day telling me I'm an idiot, but our man is different.
Well, that's the life of a troll. He doesn't have the intellect to engage in any sort of real conversation or debate. So he resorts to trollish behavior... repeating questions already answered, derailing threads, building straw men, posting memes, etc. Its all he has, its all he is capable of.

Rather sad. And pathetic. Is pathetisad a word?



Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 05:15:20 pm
i can't imagined logging on every day to go to a website where a bunch of strangers spend the day telling me I'm an idiot, but our man is different.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/002/112/840/9cf)
Being called an idiot by high end idiots isn’t a big deal to me.  You guys are Koolaid drinking Trudeau cultists, who have no problem with straight up authoritarianism if it’s from a government you agree with.  You’re Branch Covidians, and it’s going to be fun watching you lose your **** as restrictions end completely.  Plus, it’s fun calling you out on your rank hypocrisy.  Your double standards are award worthy! 😂

Anyways, big news!
Liberal MP breaks ranks, calls out Trudeau's 'easy and absurd' smearing of freedom protesters!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 05:24:00 pm
Being called an idiot by high end idiots isn’t a big deal to me.  You guys are Koolaid drinking Trudeau cultists, who have problem with straight up authoritarianism if it’s from a government you agree with.  You’re Branch Covidians, and it’s going to be fun watching you lose your **** as restrictions end completely.  Plus, it’s fun calling you out on your tank hypocrisy.  Your double standards are award worthy! 😂

Anyways, big news!
Liberal MP breaks ranks, calls out Trudeau's 'easy and absurd' smearing of freedom protesters!

Exactly what we need to deal with these dingbats:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Tank_T-34.JPG)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 05:51:04 pm
Exactly what we need to deal with these dingbats:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Tank_T-34.JPG)
Maybe Justin can have his very own Tiananmen Square! 👍
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 05:53:37 pm
The truckers have found a much better and more valuable target now.  The Ambassador bridge.  It’s completely blocked.  The best part of the whole protest is that it shows just how feckless and vapid Trudeau really is. #TrustFundBaby
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 05:59:55 pm
The truckers have found a much better and more valuable target now.  The Ambassador bridge.  It’s completely blocked.

uh, no! It's not truckers n' bigRigs... it's lil' dipshytes in pickMeUps blocking bridge traffic. It's actually truckers upset that they can't cross the bridge to do... you know... their jobs and deliver goods!

(https://i.imgur.com/0E3jPNP.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 06:00:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/k1W52uP.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 06:02:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WUT2DaY.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 06:05:56 pm
uh, no! It's not truckers n' bigRigs... it's lil' dipshytes in pickMeUps blocking bridge traffic. It's actually truckers upset that they can't cross the bridge to do... you know... their jobs and deliver goods!

(https://i.imgur.com/0E3jPNP.jpg)
Liberal backed lockdowns now cost Canadians $2 trillion dollars, millions of children left behind, and hundreds of thousands without jobs.  Heckuva job waldo! 😂😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 06:09:36 pm
Liberal backed lockdowns...

name them
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 06:10:00 pm
Justin Turdeau, the Harvey Weinstein of world leaders.[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 06:12:53 pm
name them
Justin Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 06:16:31 pm
member Shady! Inhalant abuse has serious health consequences... if it's not too late, get off the glue huffer!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 06:28:37 pm
Scratch a leftist find a fascist.
This is revolting.[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 06:31:49 pm
Scratch a leftist find a fascist.

LOL what is that going to do?  If they won't arrest them for parking in the middle of the street how are they going to arrest them if they drive away without a driver's license?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 06:36:11 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WUT2DaY.jpg)

An upside down Canadian flag isn't a racist symbol lol, it's a well-known signal for distress.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 08, 2022, 06:58:31 pm
LOL what is that going to do?  If they won't arrest them for parking in the middle of the street how are they going to arrest them if they drive away without a driver's license?

That's exactly what they will do, and tow their rigs to boot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 07:31:47 pm
Mandates are over.

New York to Drop Indoor Mask Mandate on Wednesday, Per Report
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1491201687549263873?s=21

The Maga governor of New York must be stopped!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 07:50:34 pm
Maybe Justin can have his very own Tiananmen Square! 👍

The fact that the protests haven't been crushed kinda puts paid to your whining about jUstIN thE diCtaTor doesn't it?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 07:56:41 pm
An upside down Canadian flag isn't a racist symbol lol, it's a well-known signal for distress.

Now do the rest.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 08:00:51 pm
Alberta and Saskatchewan, the two provinces with the lowest vaccination rates are both dropping all restrictions. Given how many UCP/SK party supporters belong to the ranks of the unvaxxed, I'm not sure killing the base is a great idea, but I won't complain.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 08:02:30 pm
Alberta and Saskatchewan, the two provinces with the lowest vaccination rates are both dropping all restrictions. Hopefully this will help thin the unvaxxed herd a little more.
I doubt it.  Omicold just isn’t as serious.  You should look at the science at some point.  You might understand why states like New York and California are doing similar things.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 08:04:30 pm
I doubt it.  Omicold just isn’t as serious.  You should look at the science at some point.  You might understand why states like New York and California are doing similar things.

It's still risky for unvaxxed older people with comorbidities, which if you've ever been to rural Alberta and Saskatchewan, is a sizeable chunk of the populace.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 08:27:46 pm
It's still risky for unvaxxed older people with comorbidities, which if you've ever been to rural Alberta and Saskatchewan, is a sizeable chunk of the populace.
Those older people and with comorbidities should be proud to die for the right for people like shady to drink at a bar without a mask!

After all, its their fault.. they shouldn't have gotten old.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 08:37:56 pm
Those older people and with comorbidities should be proud to die for the right for people like shady to drink at a bar without a mask!

After all, its their fault.. they shouldn't have gotten old.
No, they should get vaccinated or use one of the many mitigation practices that can help keep them safe.  If they choose not to, they should accept the consequences.  It’s been 2 years already.  Nobody is forcing you to go to a bar, restaurant etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 08:39:55 pm
It's still risky for unvaxxed older people with comorbidities, which if you've ever been to rural Alberta and Saskatchewan, is a sizeable chunk of the populace.
Then those high risk should get vaccinated or use on of the many mitigation policies to keep themselves safe.  If they choose not to, it’s their right, but there could be negative consequences.  Nobody is forcing anyone to not wear a mask, to not avoid large indoor gatherings, etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 08:41:37 pm
Then those high risk should get vaccinated or use on of the many mitigation policies to keep themselves safe.  If they choose not to, it’s their right, but there could be negative consequences.  Nobody is forcing anyone to not wear a mask, to not avoid large indoor gatherings, etc.

Anyone who isn't wearing a masked or vaxxed now isn't going to start now that they have no reason to and that's fine, the Herman Cain awards are always accepting new applicants.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 08:45:34 pm
Anyone who isn't wearing a masked or vaxxed now isn't going to start now that they have no reason to and that's fine, the Herman Cain awards are always accepting new applicants.
It’s their choice.  Just like it’s the choice of somebody to smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day.  It’s none of my business.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 08:48:49 pm
Alberta is effectively ending all mandates, but it turns out that's not enough for these twats (https://twitter.com/kiansimone44/status/1491234101789339653?s=20&t=FdSfgJp4Mwar0L7YE6-2Bg). Who could have foreseen that if you give these pricks an inch they'll ask for a mile.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 08:56:51 pm
Let me end this thread so we can all just STFU:

- Everyone has the right to peacefully protest (speech)
- Protestors should follow the law or face the consequences, whether truckers or BLM'ers or Jan 6'ers
- Governments should allow people to protest indefinitely unless they're breaking the law, in which case they have the right to enforce the law on those breaking it while leaving all other peaceful protestors alone.
- Protestors should not engage in hate speech or incite violence
- A minority of bad apples within a peaceful protest movement, whether Nazis or looting BLM'ers, do not represent all the members of that protest and do not in themselves de-legitimize a protest
- Anyone with double-standards regarding protests who pick and choose which of the above they think should apply or not based on whether or not they politically agree with what is being protested is a hypocrite
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:08:00 pm
Let me end this thread so we can all just STFU:

- Everyone has the right to peacefully protest (speech)
- Protestors should follow the law or face the consequences, whether truckers or BLM'ers or Jan 6'ers
- Governments should allow people to protest indefinitely unless they're breaking the law, in which case they have the right to enforce the law on those breaking it while leaving all other peaceful protestors alone.
- Protestors should not engage in hate speech or incite violence
- A minority of bad apples within a peaceful protest movement, whether Nazis or looting BLM'ers, do not represent all the members of that protest and do not in themselves de-legitimize a protest
- Anyone with double-standards regarding protests who pick and choose which of the above they think should apply or not based on whether or not they politically agree with what is being protested is a hypocrite

Someone who picks and chooses which of those principles apply based on their political beliefs is not a hypocrite unless they profess to believe in all of them in the first place.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 09:25:00 pm
Someone who picks and chooses which of those principles apply based on their political beliefs is not a hypocrite unless they profess to believe in all of them in the first place.
You must be dense, the issue isn’t about political beliefs, it’s about applying different standards to protesters.  We’ve already established the trade marked Black Dog Double Standard.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2022, 09:30:57 pm
You must be dense, the issue isn’t about political beliefs, it’s about applying different standards to protesters.  We’ve already established the trade marked Black Dog Double Standard.

The Virgin Shady: pretends to apply the same standards to different protesters, doesn't. Whines about other people being hypocrites; is a hypocrite.
The Chad Black Dog: doesn't pretend to apply the same standards, happily picks and chooses based on political beliefs and context.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 09:35:10 pm
Let me end this thread so we can all just STFU:

- Everyone has the right to peacefully protest (speech)
- Protestors should follow the law or face the consequences, whether truckers or BLM'ers or Jan 6'ers
- Governments should allow people to protest indefinitely unless they're breaking the law, in which case they have the right to enforce the law on those breaking it while leaving all other peaceful protestors alone.
- Protestors should not engage in hate speech or incite violence
- A minority of bad apples within a peaceful protest movement, whether Nazis or looting BLM'ers, do not represent all the members of that protest and do not in themselves de-legitimize a protest
Ah yes, its always "just a few" bad apples...

Just a few racists organized it. Just a few carried racist flags. Just a few peed on the war memorial. Just a few danced on the tomb of the unknown soldier. Just a few harassed people at a medical center. Just a few sent death threats to a tow truck driver. Just a few harassed businesses. Just a few assaulted people. Just a few harassed businesses. Just a few threw rocks at people's houses. Just a few used their horns, causing noise complaints. Just a few started fires. Just a few stole food from a homeless shelter. Just a few are parked illegally and blocking traffic. Just a few built illegal structures....

Did you ever think that when you start to add up all those "just a few bad apples" you end up with a pretty substantial number of people? At one point do you think that those 'few' people are actually something to be concerned about?

And how about a new rule? If you are surrounded by people being dumbasses, and you decide to either 1) do nothing tp stop it even if doing so is fairly easy, or 2) you decide to stay, then you are giving tacit approval to those actions?

Heck, take the confederate and nazi flags... even the Trump campaign was smart enough to take down a confederate flag someone had hung in a 2016 election rally. But here you have trucker protesters gladly hanging out with people carrying racist flags.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 08, 2022, 09:42:33 pm
Ha ha!!!

From: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-convoy-exposed-donation/
The Boston, Massachusetts-based donation service GiveSendGo became the primary donation service for the so-called “Freedom Convoy”...TechCrunch was tipped off to the data lapse after a person... found an exposed Amazon-hosted S3 bucket containing over 50 gigabytes of files, including passports and driver licenses that were collected during the donation process.

The schadenfreude runs strong in this one!

Identity theft sucks (I should know, I've been the victim of it). But if anyone is going to get burned by it, I would rather it be a bunch of people donating to support a bunch of racists, violent thugs, and the like.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2022, 09:52:04 pm
Ha ha!!!

From: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-convoy-exposed-donation/
The Boston, Massachusetts-based donation service GiveSendGo became the primary donation service for the so-called “Freedom Convoy”...TechCrunch was tipped off to the data lapse after a person... found an exposed Amazon-hosted S3 bucket containing over 50 gigabytes of files, including passports and driver licenses that were collected during the donation process.

The schadenfreude runs strong in this one!

Identity theft sucks (I should know, I've been the victim of it). But if anyone is going to get burned by it, I would rather it be a bunch of people donating to support a bunch of racists, violent thugs, and the like.
You’d cheer on a girl being **** if it meant some kind of political gain.  You people are disgusting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2022, 11:16:05 pm
Someone who picks and chooses which of those principles apply based on their political beliefs is not a hypocrite unless they profess to believe in all of them in the first place.

Anyone who thinks protestor group A should follow the law but protestor group B doesn't have to because group B is protesting a cause they believe in and the other group isn't then that's a double-standard and that person is a hypocrite, not to mention an anti-democratic tyrant.

Also, civil disobedience is breaking a law you're protesting, it isn't smashing random businesses that have nothing to do with what you're protesting and looting them or lighting churches on fire.

But anyways, i've already ended the thread with my hiroshima truth-bomb.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 11:27:17 pm
But anyways, i've already ended the thread with my hiroshima truth-bomb.

truth? You can't handle the truth! Here, have some Teamsters truth - yes?

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 08, 2022, 11:41:33 pm
more... truth, hey member Nipples!

Canada's largest trucking company is TFI International Inc.. => the ending of the vaccination requirement exemption for cross-border truckers had been announced by the federal government on Nov. 19 and took effect Jan. 15; as of Jan 15, Canadian truck drivers must be fully vaccinated if they want to avoid a 14-day quarantine upon re-entry from the United States. The United States imposed the same rule on American drivers a week later on Jan. 22, with Canadians who are not fully vaccinated barred from entry to the U.S. and vice versa.

Quote from: TFI CEO Alain Bédard
Vaccination at TFI is not an issue at all. The vast majority of TFI's Canadian drivers are inoculated against COVID-19.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 09, 2022, 12:05:06 am
90% huh?  Cool, that’s almost as high as the convoy protest! 😂l
Don't forget you're trying to compare almost 2500 protests involving 10's of millions of people over several months nationwide.

90% - if not higher - is a resounding tribute to civil restraint given the righteousness of their cause and the justifiable anger that fuelled it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 09, 2022, 12:24:56 am
more... truth, hey member Nipples!

Canada's largest trucking company is TFI International Inc.. => the ending of the vaccination requirement exemption for cross-border truckers had been announced by the federal government on Nov. 19 and took effect Jan. 15; as of Jan 15, Canadian truck drivers must be fully vaccinated if they want to avoid a 14-day quarantine upon re-entry from the United States. The United States imposed the same rule on American drivers a week later on Jan. 22, with Canadians who are not fully vaccinated barred from entry to the U.S. and vice versa.
But, but... that's going to destroy the trucking business!!! Massive supply chain disruptions! Chaos! Cats mating with dogs!

From: https://globalnews.ca/news/8604381/covid-vaccine-mandate-truckers-tfi/
Canada’s largest trucking company is virtually untouched by the vaccine mandate for truckers crossing the U.S.-Canada border, says TFI International Inc. chairman and CEO Alain Bedard... He said last month looked like “the best January ever for the company”...“The biggest issue for us really in January is sick people in the U.S. with COVID”

So the vaccine mandates are not affecting the trucking industry or supply chain, but sick people (which vaccines would help prevent) ARE causing problems.

What are the odds?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 09, 2022, 12:37:06 am
Don't forget you're trying to compare almost 2500 protests involving 10's of millions of people over several months nationwide.

90% - if not higher - is a resounding tribute to civil restraint given the righteousness of their cause and the justifiable anger that fuelled it.
Actually the number is 93% BLM protests considered peaceful. And even in the small number where violence occurred, not every participant that was in a protest that was violent participated in the violence themselves. So the number of people that would be considered problematic is extremely small.

And don't forget what I mentioned before...

At least some of the cases where violence and/or looting occurred, those involved were not part of the BLM protests, but were merely using the protests as cover for their crimes. In other cases, it was right-wing agitators who were causing the problems.

Compare that to the Truckers rally, where pretty much 100% of the protests have caused problems, and here in Ottawa it appears that pretty much 100% of the troublemakers have actually been associated with the rally.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 08:29:28 am
Good news!  Police are returning the fuel that they took from truckers, by judges order!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 09, 2022, 09:31:08 am
More information about the "peaceful" trucker protest...

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841
police have expressed concern about extremist rhetoric coming from far-right groups among the protesters. As well as reported racial and homophobic abuse, some danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the National War Memorial. Nearly 80 criminal investigations have been opened in relation to the protests, including for alleged hate crimes and property damage. Some two dozen people have been arrested....One officer was reportedly attacked...police had found about 100 trucks with children in them and had contacted the Children's Aid Society over concerns about the noise, fumes and hygiene in the convoy.

Hmmm... 100 trucks with children. So that's AT LEAST 100 children that are probably not getting the proper schooling, subject to loud noise constantly, etc.. And dozens arrested. And almost 80 criminal investigations. 

Does that count as just "a few" bad apples?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 09:43:47 am
More information about the "peaceful" trucker protest...

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60267841
police have expressed concern about extremist rhetoric coming from far-right groups among the protesters. As well as reported racial and homophobic abuse, some danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the National War Memorial. Nearly 80 criminal investigations have been opened in relation to the protests, including for alleged hate crimes and property damage. Some two dozen people have been arrested....One officer was reportedly attacked...police had found about 100 trucks with children in them and had contacted the Children's Aid Society over concerns about the noise, fumes and hygiene in the convoy.

Hmmm... 100 trucks with children. So that's AT LEAST 100 children that are probably not getting the proper schooling, subject to loud noise constantly, etc.. And dozens arrested. And almost 80 criminal investigations. 

Does that count as just "a few" bad apples?
You guys are hilarious.  You’ve kept children from proper schooling for 2 years, but now you care.  You people have no credibility. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 09:45:33 am
Ah yes, its always "just a few" bad apples...

Funny how they always conveniently forget the rest of that idiom.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 09:51:15 am
Anyone who thinks protestor group A should follow the law but protestor group B doesn't have to because group B is protesting a cause they believe in and the other group isn't then that's a double-standard and that person is a hypocrite, not to mention an anti-democratic tyrant.

In practice this means you would consider civil rights protesters violating the law by sitting at a segregated lunch counter to be the same as the pro-segregation protesters assaulting them.

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Also, civil disobedience is breaking a law you're protesting, it isn't smashing random businesses that have nothing to do with what you're protesting and looting them or lighting churches on fire.

LOL wow, so it turns out breaking the law is actually ok if you do so in a manner Mr. Graham finds acceptable which shows how hollow your "axshualllly everyone should obey the law" pose is.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 10:12:56 am
You guys are hilarious.  You’ve kept children from proper schooling for 2 years, but now you care.  You people have no credibility.

Covid restrictions were so bad for kids you guys.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 10:16:14 am
Covid restrictions were so bad for kids you guys.

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They were.  For their development and education.  Your side are child abusers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 09, 2022, 10:22:04 am
Covid restrictions were so bad for kids you guys.

(graph showing deaths among kids in the U.S.)
But those kids should be proud to die of covid so that people like shady can go drink in a bar without a mask. Freeedum!!!

Of course, he also ignores the fact that in Canada, while there were some restrictions on in-class learning, SOME education still took place since the start of the pandemic. (Some on line, some in class). Ontario opened its schools mid-January for in-person learning. Not only are the kids missing out on the in-class learning they can be doing now, they are also not in a situation that is good for on-line or self-education.

Not to mention that the issue isn't just schooling... even if a student was restricted to on-line learning for part of the pandemic, at least they weren't stuck in a truck, listening to loud horns blaring for hours on end and choking on exhaust fumes and having to find a portapotty in freezing cold weather.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 10:36:13 am
But those kids should be proud to die of covid so that people like shady can go drink in a bar without a mask. Freeedum!!!

Of course, he also ignores the fact that in Canada, while there were some restrictions on in-class learning, SOME education still took place since the start of the pandemic. (Some on line, some in class). Ontario opened its schools mid-January for in-person learning. Not only are the kids missing out on the in-class learning they can be doing now, they are also not in a situation that is good for on-line or self-education.

Not to mention that the issue isn't just schooling... even if a student was restricted to on-line learning for part of the pandemic, at least they weren't stuck in a truck, listening to loud horns blaring for hours on end and choking on exhaust fumes and having to find a portapotty in freezing cold weather.
The flu is more dangerous to kids than covid is, you should actually look at the science instead of relying on your irrational fear.  You should speak to parents too.  Keep cheering on ****.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 10:39:34 am
The flu is more dangerous to kids than covid is, you should actually look at the science instead of relying on your irrational fear.  You should speak to parents too.  Keep cheering on ****.

COVID restrictions kept a lot of kids from dying but some of them had bad school experiences so it's impossible to tell if they are good or not.

Man do you even have kids?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 10:49:30 am
COVID restrictions kept a lot of kids from dying but some of them had bad school experiences so it's impossible to tell if they are good or not.

Man do you even have kids?
No they didn’t keep a lot of kids from dying.  The flu has a higher mortality rate for children than covid.  Children that are immune compromised or high risk could have done remote learning while everyone else went to school.  Everyone recognizes keep schools closed was wrong.  You people are like the Japanese soldiers surrendering from world war 2 I. 2974.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 10:53:45 am
No they didn’t keep a lot of kids from dying.

Are you arguing with the chart I posted?

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The flu has a higher mortality rate for children than covid.  Children that are immune compromised or high risk could have done remote learning while everyone else went to school.

See here you are focusing on COVID and ignoring all the other health and safety risks (including the flu). You need to stop with your single variable thinking.

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Everyone recognizes keep schools closed was wrong.

Who is "everyone"?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 11:04:33 am
Are you arguing with the chart I posted?

See here you are focusing on COVID and ignoring all the other health and safety risks (including the flu). You need to stop with your single variable thinking.

Who is "everyone"?
Like literally everyone.  Your stance is anti-science and anti-children.  How you can continue to defend this nonsense is an abomination.

School Closures Were a Catastrophic Error. Progressives Still Haven’t Reckoned With It.

"That unnerving implication has a mounting pile of evidence to support it. It is now indisputable, and almost undisputed, that the year and a quarter of virtual school imposed devastating consequences on the students who endured it. Studies have found that virtual school left students nearly half a year behind pace, on average, with the learning loss falling disproportionately on low-income, Latino, and Black students. Perhaps a million students functionally dropped out of school altogether.

The social isolation imposed on kids caused a mental health “state of emergency,” according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. The damage to a generation of children’s social development and educational attainment, and particularly to the social mobility prospects of its most marginalized members, will be irrecoverable."


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/progressives-must-reckon-with-the-school-closing-catastrophe.html
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 09, 2022, 11:06:45 am
In practice this means you would consider civil rights protesters violating the law by sitting at a segregated lunch counter to be the same as the pro-segregation protesters assaulting them.

No because assaulting someone is a far worse crime than sitting at a counter.  You're more than welcome to break the law in either case as long as you understand that you can be held accountable by the law.  Nelson Mandela spent decades in prison.

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LOL wow, so it turns out breaking the law is actually ok if you do so in a manner Mr. Graham finds acceptable which shows how hollow your "axshualllly everyone should obey the law" pose is.

No, see above.  You're the one that says breaking the law is ok depending on what you personally find acceptable or not.  Apparently that includes people throwing tantrums by destroying and looting innocent peoples property.

At least it would kinda make sense if they focused their rage on police or government property since that's who they're protesting. But tantruming toddlers usually don't think that much. I mean you throw tantrums here on a very regular basis, you're only interested in getting your way, not in civil dialogue, as is the toddler way.

Squiggy is the same. Anger, resentment, insults, and otherwise consistently behaving like children.  How embarrassing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 11:16:52 am
No because assaulting someone is a far worse crime than sitting at a counter. You're more than welcome to break the law in either case as long as you understand that you can be held accountable by the law. Nelson Mandela spent decades in prison.

"I don't agree with the law calling for Jews to be rounded up, but the law is the law and we must respect that."

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No, see above. You're the one that says breaking the law is ok depending on what you personally find acceptable or not. 

Yeah most normal people are beholden to higher moral principles than "the law is the law and must be obeyed."

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Apparently that includes people throwing tantrums by destroying and looting innocent peoples property.

Where'd I say that was ok?

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At least it would kinda make sense if they focused their rage on police or government property since that's who they're protesting. But tantruming toddlers usually don't think that much. I mean you throw tantrums here on a very regular basis, you're only interested in getting your way, not in civil dialogue, as is the toddler way.

Squiggy is the same. Anger, resentment, insults, and otherwise consistently behaving like children.  How embarrassing.

You're too thick to see the irony here aren't you?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 11:19:04 am
Like literally everyone.  Your stance is anti-science and anti-children.  How you can continue to defend this nonsense is an abomination.

School Closures Were a Catastrophic Error. Progressives Still Haven’t Reckoned With It.

"That unnerving implication has a mounting pile of evidence to support it. It is now indisputable, and almost undisputed, that the year and a quarter of virtual school imposed devastating consequences on the students who endured it. Studies have found that virtual school left students nearly half a year behind pace, on average, with the learning loss falling disproportionately on low-income, Latino, and Black students. Perhaps a million students functionally dropped out of school altogether.

The social isolation imposed on kids caused a mental health “state of emergency,” according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. The damage to a generation of children’s social development and educational attainment, and particularly to the social mobility prospects of its most marginalized members, will be irrecoverable."


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/progressives-must-reckon-with-the-school-closing-catastrophe.html

I know you're a single variable thinker, but this doesn't reckon with unintended positive consequences of COVID restrictions, which include, as I posted, a reduction in child mortality. Any discussion of the harms needs to account for that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 11:24:16 am
I know you're a single variable thinker, but this doesn't reckon with unintended positive consequences of COVID restrictions, which include, as I posted, a reduction in child mortality. Any discussion of the harms needs to account for that.
Keep ignoring the science.  I’ll keep laughing at you.  Now get bank on your island, there’s a war still going on! 😂🤣
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 11:59:56 am
Keep ignoring the science.  I’ll keep laughing at you.  Now get bank on your island, there’s a war still going on! 😂🤣

I set this exchange up to show how you are an idealogical fanatic and you played your part perfectly.

I posted a piece of information that showed a precipitous decline in child mortality in 2020, which a normal person would maybe find interesting. Not you, though! You simply had to find a way to shoehorn it into your culture war COVID obsession to the point where you outright denied the information in front of you because you're stupid and incurious and only interested in "science" the confirms your priors (like the ludicrous "Johns Hopkins" study you keep banging on about).

Anyway, I've certainly never denied the unintended negative consequences of school closures, but what gets me about the conclusion that schools should have stayed open because COVID doesn't harm kids is it somehow ignores the part where kids aren't the only people in schools. The fact the recent Omnicron wave led to teacher shortages in multiple districts due to illness would suggest that school closures during the early days of the pandemic and through the Delta wave probably saved lives as many teachers and staff in those earlier waves would have been at greater risk because of the lack of vaccines. But that doesn't matter to you because you're not interested in saving lives, and you definitely don't actually give a **** about the children. You're just playing your dumb part and reading from your dumb script in your ongoing sad and futile effort to own the libs because that's the only thing you seem to have in your life.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 09, 2022, 12:11:00 pm
Shutting down the Ambassador Bridge is not a good idea.

This is making up to be a war of West vs East in the making...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 12:32:17 pm
Shutting down the Ambassador Bridge is not a good idea.

This is making up to be a war of West vs East in the making...
Trudeau could end it all today, but just relinquishing on his meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 09, 2022, 12:34:33 pm
Trudeau could end it all today, but just relinquishing on his meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.

Which would have no impact right ?

Would also send the message that a few hundred trucks can change legislation... they don't even do this for native protests.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 12:58:50 pm
Which would have no impact right ?

Would also send the message that a few hundred trucks can change legislation... they don't even do this for native protests.

Also the claim these oafs would go home if they removed the trucker mandate (which you are correct in saying wouldn't change a thing) is false as the goons in Coutts have made clear, they want ALL restrictions lifted (even though Trudeau only has authority over federal mandates).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 01:15:54 pm
Doing a great job winning hearts and minds.

87% of Ottawa residents want protesters to go home
 (https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/majority-of-ottawa-residents-oppose-freedom-convoy-protest-poll-finds-1.5771778?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvottawa%3Atwitterpost&taid=6202462f2bf41400011422eb&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 09, 2022, 01:29:45 pm
Also the claim these oafs would go home if they removed the trucker mandate (which you are correct in saying wouldn't change a thing) is false as the goons in Coutts have made clear, they want ALL restrictions lifted (even though Trudeau only has authority over federal mandates).

They said in a press conference they want to form government.

They think we grow bananas here...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 09, 2022, 02:07:08 pm
"I don't agree with the law calling for Jews to be rounded up, but the law is the law and we must respect that."

We don't live in a fascist totalitarian dictatorship, we live in a liberal democracy with courts and different levels of government we can petition to.  BLM rioters didn't even wait for a court ruling on the Floyd case before going nuts.

Yeah most normal people are beholden to higher moral principles than "the law is the law and must be obeyed."[/quote]

I never said that all laws are just, I said you follow them until you can change them, and if you choose not to follow them in protest/ civil disobedience ok but prepare to also suffer the legal punishments of those crimes.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 02:21:26 pm
We don't live in a fascist totalitarian dictatorship, we live in a liberal democracy with courts and different levels of government we can petition to. 

The US under Jim Crow and segregation was also a liberal democracy and it required people disobey those laws they deemed unjust to help change them. Those people are considered heroes because we know those laws were unjust.

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I never said that all laws are just, I said you follow them until you can change them, and if you choose not to follow them in protest/ civil disobedience ok but prepare to also suffer the legal punishments of those crimes.

And this is my point: you're talking strictly about legalities and following the letter of the law, but deciding what laws are unjust and thus worth disobeying is a moral/political judgement that everyone would make.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 02:37:39 pm
Actually the number is 93% BLM protests considered peaceful. And even in the small number where violence occurred, not every participant that was in a protest that was violent participated in the violence themselves. So the number of people that would be considered problematic is extremely small.

And don't forget what I mentioned before...

At least some of the cases where violence and/or looting occurred, those involved were not part of the BLM protests, but were merely using the protests as cover for their crimes. In other cases, it was right-wing agitators who were causing the problems.

Compare that to the Truckers rally, where pretty much 100% of the protests have caused problems, and here in Ottawa it appears that pretty much 100% of the troublemakers have actually been associated with the rally.

And the organizers are racist cranks, a fact that all the "oh it's just a few bad apples" folks keep ignoring even though it's kind of a big deal and certainly enables one to make some judgements on the kind of followers such individuals would cultivate.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 02:52:20 pm
And the organizers are racist cranks, a fact that all the "oh it's just a few bad apples" folks keep ignoring even though it's kind of a big deal and certainly enables one to make some judgements on the kind of followers such individuals would cultivate.
Complete and utter nonsense.  You’re a racist crank and a fascist.  See, we can all that game.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 02:56:22 pm
A 78 year old elderly man is wrestled to the ground by multiple police officers for honking a car horn.  Not a ticket  or a fine.  This is Canada now in 2022.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-elderly-man-gets-wrestled-to-ground-arrested-by-ottawa-police-for-honking-in-support-of-protesting-truckers/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 09, 2022, 03:06:08 pm
The US under Jim Crow and segregation was also a liberal democracy and it required people disobey those laws they deemed unjust to help change them. Those people are considered heroes because we know those laws were unjust.

And this is my point: you're talking strictly about legalities and following the letter of the law, but deciding what laws are unjust and thus worth disobeying is a moral/political judgement that everyone would make.

If people want to protest a law through civil disobedience of that law they're free to do so, but also may suffer the legal consequences.  It should also be done only when all other democratic forms of protest and petition have been exhausted, because that's how we keep our society from turning into chaos like we have right now in Ottawa, on Jan. 6th, and during the Floyd race riots.

But what the truckers and rioters have done isn't civil disobedience, the laws they're breaking have nothing to do with the laws/policies they're protesting.  It's just angry people trying to cause chaos in order to blackmail the government into doing whatever they want, which is anti-democratic and shouldn't be tolerated.

This is the only way civil society works.  I don't want to live in a 3rd world society where rule of law has broken down and violence and civil unrest is common and society is dysfunctional.  Civil society works because we all agree to follow the law even when we disagree with it, and government is there to enforce it.  Everyone thinks their cause is righteous. Ie. Quebec separatists have a choice of either accepting the results of a democratic referendum & continuing to peacefully protest or causing civil unrest/violence until they get their way.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 09, 2022, 03:12:32 pm
The peaceful option here for the truckers is to go park their trucks somewhere legal and then go get some tents and heaters and camp out in front of Parliament Hill.

They're naive fools if they think Ottawa is going to bend to their demands via hijacking public infrastructure.  They're literally holding parts of downtown up for ransom.

They need to be removed but officials are rightly very cautious of using force because it could cause a violent  confrontation.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 04:11:23 pm
Complete and utter nonsense.  You’re a racist crank and a fascist.  See, we can all that game.

Are you denying the convoy organizers aren't a bunch of racist cranks?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 09, 2022, 05:03:28 pm
Ambassador Bridge is next level stupid.

They're asking to have their lives ruined.

Ford plants are cancelling shifts...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 05:29:39 pm
Ambassador Bridge is next level stupid.

They're asking to have their lives ruined.

Ford plants are cancelling shifts...

Where have you gone Marvin Heemeyer a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 09, 2022, 08:40:22 pm
I have a solution for the protests:  Trudeau lifts quarantines and vaccine mandates for all Canadian truckers, but keeps the mandate for foreign truckers and travelers.  Biden does the same.  Truckers can leave and enter Canada freely, but just can't enter into the US because of Biden's mandates, effectively keeping the status quo but taking all blame off Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 08:53:03 pm
Ambassador Bridge is next level stupid.

They're asking to have their lives ruined.

Ford plants are cancelling shifts...
Now you’re concerned about jobs and lives ruined?  Where have you been for 2 years?  Honestly, the selective outrage and concern is breathtaking.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 08:56:17 pm
I have a solution for the protests:  Trudeau lifts quarantines and vaccine mandates for all Canadian truckers, but keeps the mandate for foreign truckers and travelers.  Biden does the same.  Truckers can leave and enter Canada freely, but just can't enter into the US because of Biden's mandates, effectively keeping the status quo but taking all blame off Trudeau.
I have a better idea, end all mandates of all truckers.  The supply chain is too important, most truckers are vaccinated, and truckers aren’t the cause of covid infections.  It’s a mandate that has no basis in science.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 09, 2022, 09:26:40 pm
I have a better idea, end all mandates of all truckers.  The supply chain is too important, most truckers are vaccinated, and truckers aren’t the cause of covid infections.  It’s a mandate that has no basis in science.

Call Biden
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 09, 2022, 11:02:50 pm
Call Biden
I agree.  The both of them should come to an agreement together.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 09, 2022, 11:05:58 pm
Good news!  Police are returning the fuel that they took from truckers, by judges order!

confirmation citation request... from a reputable mainstream source - thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 09, 2022, 11:18:39 pm
Now you’re concerned about jobs and lives ruined?  Where have you been for 2 years?  Honestly, the selective outrage and concern is breathtaking.

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Also there's a difference between business closing during a public health emergency and closing because a bunch of pricks are blockading your business and threatening and harassing your staff.

Just shut the f*ck up man no one is buying your faux outrage.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 09, 2022, 11:25:38 pm
I have a better idea, end all mandates of all truckers.  The supply chain is too important, most truckers are vaccinated, and truckers aren’t the cause of covid infections.  It’s a mandate that has no basis in science.

of course there is no specific trucker 'mandate'; rather, there are entry criteria requirements for unvaccinated persons entering Canada. By the by, for some reason you chose to ignore the following 2 waldo posts - here take another opportunity to comment on them - yes?

(https://i.imgur.com/t9FDSs1.gif)

Canada's largest trucking company is TFI International Inc.. => the ending of the vaccination requirement exemption for cross-border truckers had been announced by the federal government on Nov. 19 and took effect Jan. 15; as of Jan 15, Canadian truck drivers must be fully vaccinated if they want to avoid a 14-day quarantine upon re-entry from the United States. The United States imposed the same rule on American drivers a week later on Jan. 22, with Canadians who are not fully vaccinated barred from entry to the U.S. and vice versa.

Quote from: TFI CEO Alain Bédard
Vaccination at TFI is not an issue at all. The vast majority of TFI's Canadian drivers are inoculated against COVID-19.

one key nugget to add: TFI CEO advised that the small number of unvaccinated truck drivers working for TFI have been restricted (by TFI) to domestic Canadian routes that don't enter the U.S..
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 09, 2022, 11:33:28 pm
The supply chain is too important

pointed analysis this evening of the Ambassador Bridge blockade is highlighting that a grand total of ~100 people... ~100 people, are responsible for the blockade that is impacting the '~$300 million' in goods travelling across the bridge daily - daily!

when you say 'too important', how important are the blockade actions of those 100 people to you, hey
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2022, 12:29:08 am
If i showed up to a border crossing with some friends and blocked it my expectation would to be arrested or shot in the face.  Same with illegally crossing a border.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 10, 2022, 08:21:31 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ISYND23.gif)

skippy, the "leading" candidate for CPC leader refuses to answer if the Ottawa 'freedum convoy' protest should end - such stellar Conservative leadership material! LOL!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 10, 2022, 09:04:19 am
pointed analysis this evening of the Ambassador Bridge blockade is highlighting that a grand total of ~100 people... ~100 people, are responsible for the blockade that is impacting the '~$300 million' in goods travelling across the bridge daily - daily!

when you say 'too important', how important are the blockade actions of those 100 people to you, hey
Hey buffoon, how many trucks do you think can fit on the bridge? 😂
100 people aka 100 trucks means it’s packed.  D’oh!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 10, 2022, 09:07:19 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ISYND23.gif)

skippy, the "leading" candidate for CPC leader refuses to answer if the Ottawa 'freedum convoy' protest should end - such stellar Conservative leadership material! LOL!
End when?  Ever?  Be more specific son.  Regardless, it absolutely IS Justin’s fault.  He caused it, and he could end it today, if he just backs down from his unscientific meaningless trucker mandate.  Btw, did you see Justin walk out of question period the other day?  It was hilarious! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 10, 2022, 09:10:13 am
pointed analysis this evening of the Ambassador Bridge blockade is highlighting that a grand total of ~100 people... ~100 people, are responsible for the blockade that is impacting the '~$300 million' in goods travelling across the bridge daily - daily!

when you say 'too important', how important are the blockade actions of those 100 people to you, hey
It is kind of weird....

Trucking Covidiots:  "Look how mandates are messing up the supply chain! Its important that products can cross the border"

Trucking companies, unions, and the government: "Actually cross border trucking isn't a problem. We have more than enough capacity to handle cross-border shipping"

Trucking Covidiots: "Lets block the border to disrupt the supply chain"
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 10, 2022, 09:17:32 am
The supply chain is too important
Hey buffoon, how many trucks do you think can fit on the bridge? 😂100 people aka 100 trucks means it’s packed.  D’oh!

in your concern for the, as you say, 'important supply chain'... do you support the actions of said '100 people'? Yes or No? Just answer the question, hey!

and again, there are no 'big rigs' as a part of the Ambassador Bridge blockade; rather, the blockade is an assortment of vehicles comprised of pick-ups and cars. As previously stated, it's actual working truckers that are raising concerns about being blocked from delivering their goods across the bridge.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 09:17:55 am
Hey buffoon, how many trucks do you think can fit on the bridge? 😂
100 people aka 100 trucks means it’s packed.  D’oh!

Most truckers are trying to do their jobs, the people blocking the bridge are by and large not part of the industry. This "drop the trucker mandate and they'll go away" line is transparent bullsh*t and no one buys it, least of all the people doing the blockading.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 09:18:39 am
A 78 year old elderly man is wrestled to the ground by multiple police officers for honking a car horn.  Not a ticket  or a fine.  This is Canada now in 2022.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-elderly-man-gets-wrestled-to-ground-arrested-by-ottawa-police-for-honking-in-support-of-protesting-truckers/

lol oh so now you care about police brutality? GTFO.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 10, 2022, 09:25:00 am
End when?  Ever?  Be more specific son.  Regardless, it absolutely IS Justin’s fault.  He caused it, and he could end it today, if he just backs down from his unscientific meaningless trucker mandate. 

you're so misinformed - again, there is no such thing as a "trucker mandate"; rather, as of Jan 15 the prior exemption for essential working truckers was rescinded.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 10, 2022, 10:50:07 am
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...elderly man is wrestled to the ground by multiple police officers for honking a car horn.  Not a ticket  or a fine.  This is Canada now in 2022.
lol oh so now you care about police brutality? GTFO.
Not to mention his link text mischaracterizes what happened.

No, he did not get wrestled to the ground for honking a horn. He honked, the police asked to see his ID (understandable, considering he was likely violating noise bylaws and would be subject to a ticket.) He decided to flee , the guy resists and the sum total of his time "on the ground" is when one knee touches the pavement.

hmmm... does that mean any senior can commit a crime and can't be touched if they decide to just walk away?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 11:00:28 am
lol oh so now you care about police brutality? GTFO.

Not to mention his link text mischaracterizes what happened.

No, he did not get wrestled to the ground for honking a horn. He honked, the police asked to see his ID (understandable, considering he was likely violating noise bylaws and would be subject to a ticket.) He decided to flee , the guy resists and the sum total of his time "on the ground" is when one knee touches the pavement.

hmmm... does that mean any senior can commit a crime and can't be touched if they decide to just walk away?

Honestly the cops should have warned him and let him go, no need to flex on a doddering old git.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 12:24:39 pm
Are you denying the convoy organizers aren't a bunch of racist cranks?

Still haven't got a response to this lol
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2022, 02:35:56 pm
Can't wait until the truckers create their own CHAZ/CHOP so politicians will wuss out and order cops to do nothing just like in Portland.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2022, 02:40:20 pm
Pierre Trudeau:  "Just watch me."

Trudeau Jr:  "Please stop hijacking the country pretty please".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 02:47:24 pm
Pierre Trudeau:  "Just watch me."

Trudeau Jr:  "Please stop hijacking the country pretty please".

I mean to be fair there's not a helluva lot he can do. If he cracks down, it just feeds into the mass psychosis of the covidiot crowd and probably gets someone killed, if he doesn't he looks more and more ineffectual. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 10, 2022, 02:50:08 pm
I mean to be fair there's not a helluva lot he can do. If he cracks down, it just feeds into the mass psychosis of the covidiot crowd and probably gets someone killed, if he doesn't he looks more and more ineffectual. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think it would be great if he waits them out and they are eventually ignored. 

I understand Bergen said in the H of C that the barricades must come down
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 03:03:42 pm
I think it would be great if he waits them out and they are eventually ignored. 

I understand Bergen said in the H of C that the barricades must come down

Maybe she should have mentioned it when she was meeting convoy participants for pizza.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 10, 2022, 04:48:06 pm
Still haven't got a response to this lol

I didn’t get a response either when I asked how it’s possible to say he’s for protest but against illegal activities when the whole protest began with illegal activities of blocking roads.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2022, 06:20:25 pm
I didn’t get a response either when I asked how it’s possible to say he’s for protest but against illegal activities when the whole protest began with illegal activities of blocking roads.

Hypocrisy for thee but not me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 10, 2022, 07:40:04 pm
Ha ha!!!!

From: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/freedom-convoy-2022-donations-frozen-give-send-go-1.6347345
The Superior Court of Justice has granted a request from the Ontario government to freeze access to millions of dollars donated through online fundraising platform GiveSendGo to the truckers convoy protesting COVID-19 restrictions

And remember, this is coming from the government of Doug Ford, a guy many demonize as some sort of right-wing populist nutcase. Yet he's willing to fight against the truckers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2022, 08:01:41 pm
I mean to be fair there's not a helluva lot he can do. If he cracks down, it just feeds into the mass psychosis of the covidiot crowd and probably gets someone killed, if he doesn't he looks more and more ineffectual. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Let's see if we can figure out all the gov's options:

1.  freeze assets, seize their gas and food etc, give out fines, and wait hoping they go away while parts of the country's transportation infrastructure remain blockaded.
2.  give in to their demands
3.  start threatening arrests and then make arrests and get the army to tow the trucks away.  Possible risk of violence, martyrdom, and further unforeseen rightwing responses.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 12:41:55 am
Pierre Trudeau:  "Just watch me."

Trudeau Jr:  "Please stop hijacking the country pretty please".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

(https://i.imgur.com/0Yq5X70.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 01:00:42 am
per EKOS:

(https://i.imgur.com/rda3NJ4.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 11, 2022, 01:01:06 am
I've seen footage of the border crossing.  The truckers are going to win if they can keep doing this, they have checkmated the feds.  There are endless trucks waiting in line at the border crossing.  Most aren't breaking the law.  You can't fine or arrest them if they are just going slow in the line, and you don't really know which trucks are slowing things down when they're mixed with truckers just doing their jobs and not protesting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 01:10:29 am
I've seen footage of the border crossing.  The truckers are going to win...

what actual "protesting truckers" do you see as a part of said border crossing? Not the dipshyte pick-me-up drivers... but actual bigRig driving truckers protesting? Are there any? Well... are there?

besides, doncha know - Premier Ford has come out of hibernation and he means to do business against those wascally insurrectionist protesters!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 01:15:28 am
Pierre Trudeau:  "Just watch me."

Trudeau Jr:  "Please stop hijacking the country pretty please".

'Whatever it takes': PM Trudeau says as officials work with U.S. to 'resolve' protests

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s office has indicated the government’s willingness to “respond with whatever it takes,” to bring the trucker convoy protests under control, confirming federal ministers and top Canadian officials are working with U.S. representatives to “resolve” the situation.

Trudeau held a series of late-night meetings on Thursday about the situation, including with key cabinet ministers and senior officials, and opposition party leaders, though no new measures were announced.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 01:34:42 am
geezaz skippy, Read The Room! LOL!  (and even more hilarity as Poilievre keeps presenting himself as 'running for Prime Minister' - that, apparently, he's expecting a coronation rather than an actual CPC leadership contest - oh skippy!)

(https://i.imgur.com/z24LUHY.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 11, 2022, 08:29:51 am
I have underestimated these types before... I hope this time I am not doing so when I say this is a leadership-campaign-ending move....

If anybody wants to see the winning strategy for Conservatives, look at Liberal-Red Toronto who elected an actual centrist conservative as mayor with a strong mandate, and continued support.

Please give the 5% of wingnuts back to the PPC and let's get the country moving again.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 11, 2022, 10:16:59 am
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 11, 2022, 10:29:02 am
I have underestimated these types before... I hope this time I am not doing so when I say this is a leadership-campaign-ending move....

If anybody wants to see the winning strategy for Conservatives, look at Liberal-Red Toronto who elected an actual centrist conservative as mayor with a strong mandate, and continued support.

Please give the 5% of wingnuts back to the PPC and let's get the country moving again.
Complete nonsense.  The majority of Canadians now want covid restrictions to end.  You’re in a bubble.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 11, 2022, 10:32:26 am
Still haven't got a response to this lol
You still have responded the information I requested.  What’s the full context of what he said?  How long had the pipeline blockade been going on at that point?  Did you speak out against that blockade?  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?  Did the PM and the media speak out against it?  Did the look into the backgrounds of the people participating? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 10:38:37 am
Complete nonsense.  The majority of Canadians now want covid restrictions to end.  You’re in a bubble.

If we're cherrypicking polls now, a majority of Canadians also want more restrictions for the unvaccinated (https://globalnews.ca/news/8532791/covid-unvaccinated-restrictions-tax-poll).

Also, 62% oppose the convoy and 65% of Canadians think the Freedom Convoy represents a small minority of selfish Canadians. (https://leger360.com/surveys/legers-north-american-tracker-february-8-2022/)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 10:44:04 am
You still have responded the information I requested.  What’s the full context of what he said?  How long had the pipeline blockade been going on at that point?  Did you speak out against that blockade?  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?  Did the PM and the media speak out against it?  Did the look into the backgrounds of the people participating? 

i asked you a simple question: are you denying the convoy's organizers are a pack of racist cranks?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 10:46:20 am
Seems like liar Shady posted this in the wrong thread but was talking about Pierre Pollivre's anti-blockade stance from 2020.

You still have responded the information I requested.

You didn't ask for any information, you're just deflecting.

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What’s the full context of what he said?  How long had the pipeline blockade been going on at that point?

You can find the video yourself if you want the full context. At that point the blockades had been going on for two days. LMAO.

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Did you speak out against that blockade?  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?  Did the PM and the media speak out against it?  Did the look into the backgrounds of the people participating?

LOL look at this pathetic worm wriggling on the hook. None of this stuff is relevant to the point which is that Pierre Pollivre's Milhouse-looking ass was against blockades before he was for them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 11, 2022, 12:33:44 pm
And more action from the Ontario government...

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60352980
Ontario has declared a state of emergency in response to two weeks of protests against Covid restrictions.... Blocking crucial infrastructure would be made "illegal" under the order, said Premier Doug Ford. Protesters could face up to a year in jail and C$100,000 ($79,000; Ł58,000) in fines.... (Ontario) will also provide additional authority so that the personal and commercial licences of protesters who do not comply may be cancelled.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 12:34:03 pm
what a worm.

'I'm proud of the truckers,' says Poilievre (https://nationalpost.com/news/im-proud-of-the-truckers-says-poilievre-in-lambasting-justin-trudeaus-response-to-protests)

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“I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them,” Poilievre said in an interview recorded on Thursday for next week’s episode of the Postmedia podcast Full Comment with Anthony Furey.

“They have reached a breaking point after two years of massive government overreach of a prime minister who insults and degrades anyone who disagrees with his heavy-handed approach.

“But let’s be honest, if Canadians are being inconvenienced, or in any way suffering from these protests, it is because Justin Trudeau made these protests happen and his intransigence is keeping the protests going,” he added.

When the interim leader of the CPC and the Conservative premier of Ontario are both telling the blockaders to pack it in, it's pretty clear this is just straight pandering by PP for political gain and has nothing to do with principles or "freedom".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 11, 2022, 03:54:49 pm
what a worm.

'I'm proud of the truckers,' says Poilievre (https://nationalpost.com/news/im-proud-of-the-truckers-says-poilievre-in-lambasting-justin-trudeaus-response-to-protests)

When the interim leader of the CPC and the Conservative premier of Ontario are both telling the blockaders to pack it in, it's pretty clear this is just straight pandering by PP for political gain and has nothing to do with principles or "freedom".
Sound like Trudeau’s meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.  All politics, no science.  Regardless, I’m proud of the truckers too.  This fundamental right is too important to cede to government.  Covid has pushed back progress on civil liberties and human rights by decades.  It needs to end now, and the only way to accomplish that is to make them feel the same pain they caused everyone else for almost 2 years.  Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 04:06:09 pm
Sound like Trudeau’s meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.  All politics, no science.  Regardless, I’m proud of the truckers too.  This fundamental right is too important to cede to government.  Covid has pushed back progress on civil liberties and human rights by decades.  It needs to end now, and the only way to accomplish that is to make them feel the same pain they caused everyone else for almost 2 years.  Enough is enough.

These are bumper sticker-level thoughts with nothing behind them.

What fundamental right, specifically? How, specifically, has COVID pushed back progress on civil liberties and human rights by decades?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 11, 2022, 04:16:15 pm

How, specifically?
Digital tracking by the government.  Vaccine passports.  Vaccine mandates.  Mask mandates. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 11, 2022, 05:08:45 pm
Digital tracking by the government.  Vaccine passports.  Vaccine mandates.  Mask mandates.

You just named a few measures without any elaboration on how they amount to "push(ing) back progress on civil liberties and human rights by decades."

Weak.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 11, 2022, 05:35:26 pm
Digital tracking by the government.  Vaccine passports.  Vaccine mandates.  Mask mandates.
It will blow your mind when you find out the mask mandate destroyed the ability of the corporate elites to digitally track you with facial recognition software. Does that further or set back civil liberties for decades?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 11, 2022, 07:03:15 pm
You just named a few measures without any elaboration on how they amount to "push(ing) back progress on civil liberties and human rights by decades."

Weak.
It’s fairly self explanatory.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 11, 2022, 10:48:32 pm
Complete nonsense.  The majority of Canadians now want covid restrictions to end.  You’re in a bubble.
What kind of thought bubble do you need to be in to imagine anyone doesn't want this to end?  The one that says this ergo the majority of Canadians support these blockades. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 11, 2022, 11:35:24 pm
Complete nonsense. You’re in a bubble.

(https://i.ibb.co/hmhfhYY/smelly-monkey-faint.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 12, 2022, 12:27:28 am
It will blow your mind when you find out the mask mandate destroyed the ability of the corporate elites to digitally track you with facial recognition software.
Yeah but the microchips that Bill Gates put into every covid vaccine made up for that.

Once of the funniest things... when the Trump terrorist brigade stormed congress, most of them were not wearing masks (thanks to the correlation of being both a MAGAchud and a covidiot... if a person is one, they are probably also the other.) They had a perfect excuse to hide their identity, but instead decided to go sans mask, which made it easier for the FBI to identify some of them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 09:52:05 am
What kind of thought bubble do you need to be in to imagine anyone doesn't want this to end?  The one that says this ergo the majority of Canadians support these blockades.
Who said that nobody wants it to end?  I already stated in an earlier post that I think they should have announced a date last week when they’d begin to withdraw.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 09:53:21 am

Good on you for being completely racist, just like your favourite PM.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 09:54:34 am
Yeah but the microchips that Bill Gates put into every covid vaccine made up for that.

Once of the funniest things... when the Trump terrorist brigade stormed congress, most of them were not wearing masks (thanks to the correlation of being both a MAGAchud and a covidiot... if a person is one, they are probably also the other.) They had a perfect excuse to hide their identity, but instead decided to go sans mask, which made it easier for the FBI to identify some of them.
Another nonsensical word salad brought to you by bubble segnosaur.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 12, 2022, 10:29:53 am
Another nonsensical word salad brought to you by bubble segnosaur.
Reading is hard. So you're somewhere around a Grade 5 level? You used to be better. Something happened.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 12, 2022, 10:41:15 am
Who said that nobody wants it to end?
People that want Trudeau to continue using the virus as the pretext for rolling out his plan to dominate and control the world.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 12, 2022, 12:36:11 pm
It’s fairly self explanatory.

LOL you can't explain it can you?

Who said that nobody wants it to end?  I already stated in an earlier post that I think they should have announced a date last week when they’d begin to withdraw.

You.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 01:54:33 pm
Reading is hard. So you're somewhere around a Grade 5 level? You used to be better. Something happened.
The problem is, that I don’t speak libtard.  I don’t know a reference to a Bill Gates means, I don’t know what MAGAchud means etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 01:57:06 pm
LOL you can't explain it can you?

You.
Government tracking needs to be explained to you?  Having to show papers just to conduct everyday life errands has to be explained to you?  That’s f**ked up.  Regardless, I specifically posted last week that the convoy should announce that Valentine’s Day they would start withdrawing.  Look it up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 12, 2022, 03:14:13 pm
The Rebel media crowd are full on filling their diapers because the cops are deploying military-grade gear against the oafs blocking the Ambassador Bridge (including, allegedly, snipers), apparently confused and horrified thats such measures would ever be deployed against white people.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 12, 2022, 03:18:15 pm
Government tracking needs to be explained to you?  Having to show papers just to conduct everyday life errands has to be explained to you?  That’s f**ked up.

Again, you're just listing things (and in this particular case of the bolded, making stuff up). Pretty clear you haven't given this any actual thought but are just bleating out slogans.

Quote
Regardless, I specifically posted last week that the convoy should announce that Valentine’s Day they would start withdrawing.  Look it up.

The question wasn't about  the convoy ending, dummy, but covid restrictions.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 04:47:44 pm
The Rebel media crowd are full on filling their diapers because the cops are deploying military-grade gear against the oafs blocking the Ambassador Bridge (including, allegedly, snipers), apparently confused and horrified thats such measures would ever be deployed against white people.
That’s weird, because there are many non white truckers.  You’re probably too racist to notice though.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 04:49:28 pm
Again, you're just listing things (and in this particular case of the bolded, making stuff up). Pretty clear you haven't given this any actual thought but are just bleating out slogans.

The question wasn't about  the convoy ending, dummy, but covid restrictions.
Yes, I’m listing things that violate civil liberties etc.  You still seem not to understand.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 04:50:37 pm
LOL law enforcement is not closing expressways themselves.  That’ll show’em!
https://twitter.com/cp24/status/1492567919670218754?s=21
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 08:19:03 pm
My favourite part of the protests, particularly in Ottawa, is the live DJs spinning different types of music depending on what block you’re on.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 12, 2022, 08:25:30 pm
Apparently this is the border blockaders want. One were thousands of companies have gone broke or moved south and all their jobs disappeared with them, because Canada can no longer be considered a reliable trading partner. Other countries will be taking note as well.

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/braid-governments-finally-waking-up-to-convoy-menace-to-canadas-economy/wcm/ae122030-0e5a-4bdc-9ed0-62e0c2dadeb2

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 12, 2022, 08:37:44 pm
That’s weird, because there are many non white truckers.  You’re probably too racist to notice though.

not at the protest/blockades. Those dude are busy working.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 12, 2022, 09:38:50 pm
not at the protest/blockades. Those dude are busy working.
Even at the protests.  Big groups of Sikh and Black truckers.  If you weren’t so racist you’d have noticed.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 12, 2022, 09:50:42 pm
 There's reports of a giant robotic monster made up of a dozens of trucks that walked through downtown Ottawa today and it peed gas on people.   It called itself 'Truckazuzu'. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 13, 2022, 11:00:27 am
Even at the protests.  Big groups of Sikh and Black truckers.  If you weren’t so racist you’d have noticed.

Uh huh, they're just always out of frame in the videos and photos.

Anyway it's pretty funny that the Windsor protestors were all like "I will never surrender, HOLD THE LINE!" and then the second the cops applied the slightest bit of pressure they folded like cheap tents and went back to whatever suburban hellhole they crawled out of.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 13, 2022, 11:35:12 am
Well they're not doing anything for OTHER PEOPLE... Of course they left


If they were selfless they would have had the shot
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 13, 2022, 12:00:41 pm
Well they're not doing anything for OTHER PEOPLE... Of course they left

If they were selfless they would have had the shot

It's just like how there were plenty of anti-vax cop and healthcare workers who made a bunch of noise out of not getting the vaccine if mandated who ended up doing so because dealing with the reality of having to find another job is a lot different from flexing on Facebook. Blocking a bridge is all fun and games until you have to explain to your boss at the RV dealership that you can't come into work because you're in a holding cell in the Windsor RCMP detachment.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 13, 2022, 02:01:45 pm
geezaz skippy, Read The Room! LOL!  (and even more hilarity as Poilievre keeps presenting himself as 'running for Prime Minister' - that, apparently, he's expecting a coronation rather than an actual CPC leadership contest - oh skippy!)

(https://i.imgur.com/z24LUHY.gif)

oh my! Poilievre... donutDeliveryMan!

(https://i.imgur.com/cx490JG.jpg)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 13, 2022, 03:48:16 pm
Jean Charest - please save us from these people...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 13, 2022, 06:26:46 pm
Pierre is dumb.  Aiding criminals with donuts.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 13, 2022, 06:33:22 pm
oh my! Poilievre... donutDeliveryMan!

(https://i.imgur.com/cx490JG.jpg)

skippy and his truckerBros - man of the people!

(https://i.imgur.com/yE320s9.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 13, 2022, 07:32:17 pm
It's just like how there were plenty of anti-vax cop and healthcare workers who made a bunch of noise out of not getting the vaccine if mandated who ended up doing so because dealing with the reality of having to find another job is a lot different from flexing on Facebook. Blocking a bridge is all fun and games until you have to explain to your boss at the RV dealership that you can't come into work because you're in a holding cell in the Windsor RCMP detachment.
Yup. Look at how quickly Quebecers lined up to get vaccinated once they found out liquor and pot stores would be off limits without a passport. The commitment to resistance is pretty thin with most who seem to be motivated more by politics than the typical anti-vaxxer concerns that existed long before COVID. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 13, 2022, 10:36:29 pm
skippy and his truckerBros - man of the people!

(https://i.imgur.com/yE320s9.jpg)

All else aside, those fits are pathetic. Kirkland-brand lookin' asses.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 13, 2022, 11:41:16 pm
If the truckers are truly patriots they need to go home ASAP and let the feds and army etc put all their energy into worrying about what's going on in Ukraine right now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 14, 2022, 12:04:50 am
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Even at the protests.  Big groups of Sikh and Black truckers.  If you weren’t so racist you’d have noticed.
Uh huh, they're just always out of frame in the videos and photos.
They were hiding behind the guys waving the confederate and nazi flags.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2022, 09:14:15 am
If the truckers are truly patriots they need to go home ASAP and let the feds and army etc put all their energy into worrying about what's going on in Ukraine right now.


We need our domestic neo-Nazis to go home so we can go back to helping the neo-Nazis in Ukraine (https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canadian-officials-who-met-with-ukrainian-unit-linked-to-neo-nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 10:06:17 am
Yup. Look at how quickly Quebecers lined up to get vaccinated once they found out liquor and pot stores would be off limits without a passport. The commitment to resistance is pretty thin with most who seem to be motivated more by politics than the typical anti-vaxxer concerns that existed long before COVID.
Yes, when you take away people’s freedom, some people will respond.  Have you always been a fascist?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 14, 2022, 10:17:38 am
More peaceful protests at the Trucker rally...

From: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/unruly-protesters-prompt-early-closure-of-two-downtown-grocery-stores
Centretown resident Dave Moyer walked to the grocery store on Saturday and found himself helping a disabled woman who had been harassed by protesters...The tearful woman told the manager that she had parked in a designated accessible spot, got out of her car and was confronted by protesters...

I am sure we will hear all about how these are only "A few bad apples".

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2022, 11:10:12 am
Yes, when you take away people’s freedom, some people will respond.  Have you always been a fascist?

Read a book for once in you life you little worm.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 14, 2022, 11:14:26 am
Read a book for once in you life you little worm.
You might want to be a little more specific.

Given his lack of reading comprehension, trollish tendencies, and overall ignorance, if you ask him to "read a book" he would probably pick "Mein Kamph" or "Elders of the Protocols of Zion", or one of the books by the Trump Klan.

Perhaps he should probably pick something a little more useful. Is there a book like "Rational Thinking for toddlers"? "Logic for dummies"?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 14, 2022, 11:19:10 am
Yes, when you take away people’s freedom, some people will respond.  Have you always been a fascist?
Have you always been such a snowflake?  You probably say the same thing at a red light - rage against the system. I've seen the shallowness of ideologically-based hesitancy resistance first hand from an anti-vax family member who swears he'll never take the shot...unless he needs it to travel abroad. So yeah the commitment like I said is really thin in places and we should identify those places and push on them.

In any case I get it that no one likes to feel if they're being forced to do something against their will but when we need to get as much vaccine into as many arms as soon as possible I have little issue with a judicious use of coercion where it will actually have an effect.  There's certainly a limit to how much you can push people to go in directions they don't want to go but I'm not entirely convinced we've reached it yet in every direction. I do think we're probably getting close enough now that we can start backing off and living with people who don't give a **** - pretty much like I've been forced to since the beginning of this.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 11:21:57 am
Read a book for once in you life you little worm.
Which book are you referring to?  Mein Kampf?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2022, 12:23:08 pm
Which book are you referring to?  Mein Kampf?

No I'm sure you've read that one already. I'm talking about one that explains fascism (hint: it's not "anything Shady doesn't like").
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 14, 2022, 12:25:15 pm
Today I learned that Freedom means blocking the Ambassador Bridge for a week....

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 12:38:40 pm
Today I learned that Freedom means blocking the Ambassador Bridge for a week....
No, what you learned is civil disobedience. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2022, 01:17:28 pm
More peaceful (https://twitter.com/BreakenridgeYEG/status/1493278102859911168?s=20&t=J1cJ4dBBO7GMKesTMNBQvg) protesters.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 01:21:29 pm
More peaceful (https://twitter.com/BreakenridgeYEG/status/1493278102859911168?s=20&t=J1cJ4dBBO7GMKesTMNBQvg) protesters.
Now do BLM.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 14, 2022, 01:30:56 pm
Now do BLM.
Because you yourself have always strived to criticize both sides equally?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 14, 2022, 01:39:35 pm
No, what you learned is civil disobedience.

Ok... not sure what the substantive difference is though.  If the natives shut down a rail line for a week you will be ok with that right ? 

I didn't call for the army to come in - and you won't either right ?

Because you are a principled citizen ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 01:54:29 pm
Ok... not sure what the substantive difference is though.  If the natives shut down a rail line for a week you will be ok with that right ? 

I didn't call for the army to come in - and you won't either right ?

Because you are a principled citizen ?
I don't know, did you post that today you learned that freedom is shutting down a rail line when they were protesting, or are you also a hypocrite with selective outrage?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 01:55:31 pm
Because you yourself have always strived to criticize both sides equally?
You're the ones that set the standard.  I'm following the lead you set in 2020.  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 14, 2022, 01:59:18 pm
I don't know, did you post that today you learned that freedom is shutting down a rail line when they were protesting, or are you also a hypocrite with selective outrage?

I don't think Freedom People are shutting down a rail line.  Ambassador Bridge is far worse I think...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 02:07:52 pm
I don't think Freedom People are shutting down a rail line.  Ambassador Bridge is far worse I think...
Acting obtuse doesn't mask your hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 14, 2022, 02:42:03 pm
Now do BLM.

You're the ones that set the standard.  I'm following the lead you set in 2020.  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?

I don't know, did you post that today you learned that freedom is shutting down a rail line when they were protesting, or are you also a hypocrite with selective outrage?

whataboutwhataboutwhatabout

More deflections from the lying liar. I wonder why you're so scared of criticizing these yokels, you afraid of being branded a race-traitor?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 14, 2022, 03:13:28 pm
Acting obtuse doesn't mask your hypocrisy.

It appears I actually AM obtuse.

Are you ok with 1 week shut down of a rail line then ?  I didn't say to clear out the truckers after 1 week...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 14, 2022, 04:45:54 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/1QdH7Xd.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 14, 2022, 05:20:37 pm
Armed insurrectionists

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blockade-arrests-rcmp-monday-1.6351112
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 05:58:38 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 05:59:40 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/1QdH7Xd.jpg)
President Xi would be proud!  How about just ending the meaningless mandate for truckers?  Mini-Castro would rather use force though.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 14, 2022, 06:08:30 pm
I predict his popularity goes the through the roof. I've never seen a group so widely despised as you guys.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 06:14:14 pm
I predict his popularity goes the through the roof. I've never seen a group so widely despised as you guys.
Lol, good one.  Mini-Castro is now freezing the bank accounts of private citizens without a court order.  Covid authoritarianism is hitting its peak.  Mini-Castro and his brownshirt supporters know that their reign of fear and terror is just about over.  They have no more cards to play.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 14, 2022, 07:19:45 pm
I predict his popularity goes the through the roof. I've never seen a group so widely despised as you guys.

Not really.

While the latest Angus Reid poll said 72% of Canadians think the protesters should go home, 62% said Trudeau made the situation worse, compared to 53% for Ford, 49% for Kenney and 48% for the Ottawa police.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 14, 2022, 08:44:27 pm
BREAKING: Liberals, NDP vote down motion calling for plan to end COVID mandates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 14, 2022, 10:37:23 pm
Not really.

While the latest Angus Reid poll said 72% of Canadians think the protesters should go home, 62% said Trudeau made the situation worse, compared to 53% for Ford, 49% for Kenney and 48% for the Ottawa police.

Yeah, but his popularity could still go up which I agree with Bubber that it might. Even I have sympathy for him and I can't stand to look at him.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Ginxa22 on February 14, 2022, 11:12:07 pm
my son keeps saying, ' why don't the reporters call it for what it is? re: truck freeDUMB convoy - they WON first prize for the DUMBEST protest ever.' I guess in a way they have 'revealed' themselves as ...well ... western canada does have near -high rate of illiteracy, then add it's canada's 'bible' belt .. and a gal pal asked , are they descendants of ... inter-mingled family bloodlines? so not getting normal social norms? sometimes we fail in being dang 'polite' huh?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 15, 2022, 12:45:30 am
my son keeps saying, ' why don't the reporters call it for what it is? re: truck freeDUMB convoy - they WON first prize for the DUMBEST protest ever.' I guess in a way they have 'revealed' themselves as ...well ... western canada does have near -high rate of illiteracy, then add it's canada's 'bible' belt .. and a gal pal asked , are they descendants of ... inter-mingled family bloodlines? so not getting normal social norms? sometimes we fail in being dang 'polite' huh?

I try not to be judgmental of the working class but it's getting tough after this dumpster fire.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on February 15, 2022, 01:34:17 am
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Ha ha!!!

From: https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/08/ottawa-trucker-freedom-convoy-exposed-donation/
The Boston, Massachusetts-based donation service GiveSendGo became the primary donation service for the so-called “Freedom Convoy”...TechCrunch was tipped off to the data lapse after a person... found an exposed Amazon-hosted S3 bucket containing over 50 gigabytes of files, including passports and driver licenses that were collected during the donation process.
Ha ha!!! (again)

From: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/reported-hack-of-convoy-protest-crowdfund-reveals-nearly-500-alleged-ottawa-donors-1.5780978
A database purporting to show donations made to the crowdfunding site GiveSendGo in support of the "Freedom Convoy" protest in Ottawa includes nearly 500 donations from people with Ottawa-area postal codes....GiveSendGo's main landing page was briefly replaced with a video manifesto against the ongoing protest...It also included a spreadsheet with names, postal codes, email addresses, and donation amounts for tens of thousands of donors from Canada, the U.S. and a handful of other countries.

This does appear to be a different hack than the previous one. Still... 2 security breaches in such a short time has got to be embarrassing.

Almost tempted to see if I can track down the database. After all, if I saw anyone person or any businesses that I interact with, I would consider ending any sort of dealings with them over this.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 06:58:43 am
I try not to be judgmental of the working class but it's getting tough after this dumpster fire.

THEY'RE NOT WORKING CLASS

If you want to use that language they are 'petit bourgeoisie'
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 08:14:39 am
 :o
Not really.

While the latest Angus Reid poll said 72% of Canadians think the protesters should go home, 62% said Trudeau made the situation worse, compared to 53% for Ford, 49% for Kenney and 48% for the Ottawa police.
That poll was done before he invoked the Emergencies Act. Many felt he should not have allowed the Ottawa occupation and border shutdowns to progress as far as they did. They will like this strong response.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:15:13 am
THEY'RE NOT WORKING CLASS

If you want to use that language they are 'petit bourgeoisie'
Lol!  Truck drivers are the elite now huh?  Too funny!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:16:37 am
my son keeps saying, ' why don't the reporters call it for what it is? re: truck freeDUMB convoy - they WON first prize for the DUMBEST protest ever.' I guess in a way they have 'revealed' themselves as ...well ... western canada does have near -high rate of illiteracy, then add it's canada's 'bible' belt .. and a gal pal asked , are they descendants of ... inter-mingled family bloodlines? so not getting normal social norms? sometimes we fail in being dang 'polite' huh?
You’re teaching your son to be a good serf of the government.  Hand all of your rights over to them, what a great life lesson.  All for muh secuuurity
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:17:34 am
Ha ha!!! (again)

From: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/reported-hack-of-convoy-protest-crowdfund-reveals-nearly-500-alleged-ottawa-donors-1.5780978
A database purporting to show donations made to the crowdfunding site GiveSendGo in support of the "Freedom Convoy" protest in Ottawa includes nearly 500 donations from people with Ottawa-area postal codes....GiveSendGo's main landing page was briefly replaced with a video manifesto against the ongoing protest...It also included a spreadsheet with names, postal codes, email addresses, and donation amounts for tens of thousands of donors from Canada, the U.S. and a handful of other countries.

This does appear to be a different hack than the previous one. Still... 2 security breaches in such a short time has got to be embarrassing.

Almost tempted to see if I can track down the database. After all, if I saw anyone person or any businesses that I interact with, I would consider ending any sort of dealings with them over this.
Still cheering on **** huh?  All for muh secuuurity!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 08:21:04 am
Lol!  Truck drivers are the elite now huh?  Too funny!

If you are going to behave like Marxists, learn the language.  The PB are not the elite...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 08:22:29 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_bourgeoisie

petty bourgeoisie, is a French term (sometimes derogatory) referring to a social class composed of semi-autonomous peasantry and small-scale merchants
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:49:32 am
If you are going to behave like Marxists, learn the language.  The PB are not the elite...
Protesting for their rights is acting like marxists?  I had no idea.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:39:13 am
Protesting for their rights is acting like marxists?  I had no idea.

Your reading comprehension continue to be ****-poor. MH is applying a Marxist class analysis to the protests, which are not driven by working class truckers but likely by self-employed owner-operators: who else can afford to take that much time off work, to say nothing of incurring expenses around fuel, food, lodging etc?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 09:45:13 am
Your reading comprehension continue to be ****-poor. MH is applying a Marxist class analysis to the protests, which are not driven by working class truckers but likely by self-employed owner-operators: who else can afford to take that much time off work, to say nothing of incurring expenses around fuel, food, lodging etc?
So if a trucker happens to own their truck they’re no longer considered working class?  That’s almost as idiotic as you saying only rich people care about inflation.  Regardless, even truckers that can’t afford to protest are largely supportive of ending vaccine mandates.  It’s not an either or.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 10:01:47 am
Protesting for their rights is acting like marxists?  I had no idea.

Seeking to overthrow government, yes.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 10:06:52 am
Seeking to overthrow government, yes.
Lol, how does one overthrow a government by parking in the street?  Do you not hear how absurd you sound?  Take a deep breath.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 10:12:04 am
1. Lol, how does one overthrow a government by parking in the street? 
2. Do you not hear how absurd you sound?  Take a deep breath.
1. I dunno man - it's your plan not mine.
2. Not me, Pat King et al.  Unless you are calling them liars.  But wait the media lies ?  🤔  Is this like when one of the organizers says something and when it's quoted another organizer says 'fake news' ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 10:18:48 am
1. I dunno man - it's your plan not mine.
2. Not me, Pat King et al.  Unless you are calling them liars.  But wait the media lies ?  🤔  Is this like when one of the organizers says something and when it's quoted another organizer says 'fake news' ?
Lol, you’re hilarious, like a caricature of a leftist.  Yes, because a couple of people said something after the fact, means everyone that’s protesting is trying to overthrow the government.  Btw, thinking Trudeau should resign because he’s been a complete disaster isn’t overthrowing the government.  The problem is that when you use just ridiculous hyperbole, people roll their eyes.  You’re like the boy who cried wolf.  Every protest you don’t like is an attempted coup.  Seek professional help.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 10:32:58 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 10:33:48 am
1. Lol, you’re hilarious, like a caricature of a leftist. 
2. Yes, because a couple of people said something after the fact, means everyone that’s protesting is trying to overthrow the government. 
3. Btw, thinking Trudeau should resign because he’s been a complete disaster isn’t overthrowing the government. 
4. The problem is that when you use just ridiculous hyperbole, people roll their eyes. 
5. You’re like the boy who cried wolf.  Every protest you don’t like is an attempted coup.   

1. I'm conservative, yo, but please throw anything you can at me if it helps your feels.
2. It's the written statement that said something about Senate and Gov General yadda yadda... if you want to admit it's a politically illiterate band of idiots who are crying out in the night, then I can agree with that but if we are deciding for them what they mean are we better than 'the media' ?
3. Marazzo said he would form a coalition with the PCs NDP and Bloc...
4. I agree that people are rolling their eyes at the ridiculous statements from the Convoy leaders.
5. Explain what you agree with or disagree with because it is starting to sound that you don't take them seriously.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 10:49:08 am
So if a trucker happens to own their truck they’re no longer considered working class?

From a Marxist standpoint, yes, if you aren't selling your labour to someone else, you're not part of the proletariat.

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Regardless, even truckers that can’t afford to protest are largely supportive of ending vaccine mandates.  It’s not an either or.

Citation required.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 10:51:56 am
1. I'm conservative, yo, but please throw anything you can at me if it helps your feels.
2. It's the written statement that said something about Senate and Gov General yadda yadda... if you want to admit it's a politically illiterate band of idiots who are crying out in the night, then I can agree with that but if we are deciding for them what they mean are we better than 'the media' ?
3. Marazzo said he would form a coalition with the PCs NDP and Bloc...
4. I agree that people are rolling their eyes at the ridiculous statements from the Convoy leaders.
5. Explain what you agree with or disagree with because it is starting to sound that you don't take them seriously.
1. You can call yourself whatever you want.
2.  Cool, it doesn't mean it represents everybody.
3.  I don't even know who that is, you seem to be very invested in this for some reason.  Regardless, forming coalitions etc seems to be  part of how our system works.
4.  Good for you.  I'm sure these self appointed leaders feel important.
5.  I'm for ending the vaccine mandates in regards to truckers, it's not backed by any science.  The vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, and they spend 20 hours a day in their trucks.   It's a meaningless mandate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 10:52:23 am
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Consequences? For my actions? It's more likely than you think!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:02:13 am
Consequences? For my actions? It's more likely than you think!
It’s actually the opposite.  Consequences for not doing something to your own body.  That’s pretty f**ked up, especially at this point, 2 years.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:04:32 am
From a Marxist standpoint, yes, if you aren't selling your labour to someone else, you're not part of the proletariat.

Citation required.
That’s great, but I’m speaking from a freedom standpoint.  Many have said so.  It’ also applies to society as a whole.  Just because somebody is vaccinated doesn’t mean they support government mandates.  Not everyone is a chin diaper wearing cultist like you people.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:12:15 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 15, 2022, 11:13:58 am
You’re teaching your son to be a good serf of the government.  Hand all of your rights over to them, what a great life lesson.  All for muh secuuurity

The people blockading the borders don't give a crap about anyone's rights.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:18:00 am
That’s great, but I’m speaking from a freedom standpoint.  Many have said so.  It’ also applies to society as a whole. 

This is a meaningless word salad.

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Just because somebody is vaccinated doesn’t mean they support government mandates.  Not everyone is a chin diaper wearing cultist like you people.

You claimed that ending vaccine mandates has widespread support among truckers, so prove it. Also , again, the protest isn't about the trucker mandates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 11:18:30 am
motleyCrue tells its peeps to 'stand your ground' (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1493569719625990154/pu/vid/1280x720/cJJFa06fTtAih97K.mp4?tag=12)!

(https://i.imgur.com/f7Z4BW9.gif)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:18:54 am
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We live in Canada.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:21:44 am
The people blockading the borders don't give a crap about anyone's rights.
That’s your opinion.  We can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:22:27 am
This is a meaningless word salad.

You claimed that ending vaccine mandates has widespread support among truckers, so prove it. Also , again, the protest isn't about the trucker mandates.
So is your Marxist speak.  It’s meaningless, especially in 2022 Canada. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:22:54 am
We live in Canada.
The same thing applies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:24:44 am
You claimed that ending vaccine mandates has widespread support among truckers, so prove it. Also , again, the protest isn't about the trucker mandates.
If 46% of all Canadians sympathize, what percentage do you think the number is of just truckers?  It's not difficult to assume.

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:25:10 am
motleyCrue tells its peeps to 'stand your ground' (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1493569719625990154/pu/vid/1280x720/cJJFa06fTtAih97K.mp4?tag=12)!

(https://i.imgur.com/f7Z4BW9.gif)

This Trailer Park Boys reboot sucks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:26:37 am
This Trailer Park Boys reboot sucks.
I thought something similar when i saw the leaders of BLM, except I thought of The Wire.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 15, 2022, 11:26:57 am
That’s your opinion.  We can agree to disagree.

It's a fact, they have cost companies billions and put thousands out of work including many of the 90% of truckers who are still trying to do their jobs and are stuck at border crossings or having to lose time and spend thousands more on fuel to get around the blockades. They are like kids having tantrums and breaking things, they don't have a plan and don't care what it costs or who will have to clean it up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:32:58 am
So is your Marxist speak.  It’s meaningless, especially in 2022 Canada.

Nope, Marx is probably even more relevant now than he was when he wrote. The distinction between owners and workers is an important one no matter how much the former might like to cosplay as the latter.

If 46% of all Canadians sympathize, what percentage do you think the number is of just truckers?  It's not difficult to assume.

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

1. That doesn't say anything about mandates, specifically.
2. 46% is not a majority
3. Vaccine mandates consistently enjoy majority support of Canadians, no reason to assume it's any different among truckers.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:33:43 am
I thought something similar when i saw the leaders of BLM, except I thought of The Wire.

whataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 15, 2022, 11:34:08 am
If 46% of all Canadians sympathize, what percentage do you think the number is of just truckers?  It's not difficult to assume.

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/


This poll was published yesterday

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy-trucker-protest-vaccine-mandates-covid-19/

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If, however, the goal was to build support for their demands to end pandemic-related restrictions – it has backfired utterly.

New public opinion data from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute shows after more than two weeks of unrest, Canadians are now more likely to oppose measures sought by protesters.

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As a result, these data show a notable shift in sentiment from before the protests began, when just over half of Canadians indicated they were ready to consider an end to pandemic-related restrictions. In the weeks since they inserted themselves directly into the conversation about restrictions, the protesters have seen the pendulum swing against their point of view. One-in-three Canadians (33%) say that they support the convoy’s demands of ending all public health restrictions and vaccine mandates.

Even less support is found for the tactics taken by the protesters, who have brought downtown Ottawa to a standstill and until this past weekend were stymieing $300 million dollars a day in trade between the U.S. and Canada by blockading the Ambassador Bridge. One-quarter say the strategy of the protesters is something they support (27%), while seven-in-ten (70%) disagree:
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 11:49:28 am
1.  I don't even know who that is, you seem to be very invested in this for some reason.   
2.  I'm for ending the vaccine mandates in regards to truckers, it's not backed by any science.  The vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, and they spend 20 hours a day in their trucks.   It's a meaningless mandate.
1. Spokesperson.  Held a press conference last week I think.
2. You don't seem to have anything to say about the Convoy, other than implying they're disorganized I guess.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 11:56:18 am
More working class economic anxiety at work.

N.B. business owner says he donated $75,000 to Freedom Convoy (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-sussex-corner-business-convoy-donation-1.6351430)

lol:

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In 2009, Howland received a conditional discharge after he threatened the principal of a New Brunswick elementary school when they stopped daily singing of O Canada.

I know so many of these types of guys, they own million dollar businesses, drive $90,000 pickup trucks, own second homes in B.C. or Montana, take regular vacations to Mexico or Vegas and think they're downtrodden.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 11:59:59 am
whataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Actually, more like Boyz In Tha Hood.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:01:03 pm

This poll was published yesterday

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy-trucker-protest-vaccine-mandates-covid-19/
Yes, I feel a similar way.  I oppose the vaccine mandates, but I think it's time they withdrew their protest.  It's of diminishing returns.  I said this last week as well.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:01:58 pm
Nope, Marx is probably even more relevant now than he was when he wrote. The distinction between owners and workers is an important one no matter how much the former might like to cosplay as the latter.

1. That doesn't say anything about mandates, specifically.
2. 46% is not a majority
3. Vaccine mandates consistently enjoy majority support of Canadians, no reason to assume it's any different among truckers.
Somebody that's self employed is both a worker and an owner.  Your marxist speak is a non-sequitur.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:03:01 pm
Actually, more like Boyz In Tha Hood.

Man you are so racist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:03:55 pm
Man you are so racist.
Why?  I'm literally doing the same thing you did?  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:06:47 pm
Somebody that's self employed is both a worker and an owner.  Your marxist speak is a non-sequitur.

By this logic, the managing partner of a white-shoe law firm who still practices would be a worker, which should tell you how stupid your flattening of the term is.

People who own the means of production do not have the same material interests as people who must sell their labour.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:08:55 pm
Why?  I'm literally doing the same thing you did?  Or is this another Black Dog Double Standard?

No one said you were a very smart racist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:09:56 pm
By this logic, the managing partner of a white-shoe law firm who still practices would be a worker, which should tell you how stupid your flattening of the term is.

People who own the means of production do not have the same material interests as people who must sell their labour.
Your Marxist language is garbage and doesn’t apply.  Besides, an owner of a truck isn’t the owner of the means of production.  They’re not producing anything.  They ship it.  Step into this century. It’s not 1600 anymore.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:10:33 pm
No one said you wee a very smart racist.
I guess you’re a racist too, and a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:10:56 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:13:23 pm
I guess you’re a racist too, and a hypocrite.

I guess i have to accept that you are genuinely too stupid to see why comparing BLM organizers to fictional gangsters would have racist overtones that comparing rednecks to the cast of TPB would not.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:15:46 pm
Your Marxist language is garbage and doesn’t apply. Besides, an owner of a truck isn’t the owner of the means of production.  They’re not producing anything.  They ship it.  Step into this century. It’s not 1600 anymore.

lol this is so f*cking funny and shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should probably just bow out now.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:17:14 pm
I guess i have to accept that you are genuinely too stupid to see why comparing BLM organizers to fictional gangsters would have racist overtones that comparing rednecks to the cast of TPB would not.
Comparing BLM organizers to fictional characters is racist, but comparing the Convoy organizers to fictional characters is not racist.  That's the third dumbest thing you've ever said.  But I get the Black Dog Double Standard.  Only you are allowed to be prejudice to a particular group.  Got it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:18:25 pm
lol this is so f*cking funny and shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should probably just bow out now.
You're right, I don't speak fluent Marxism to deflect from the reasons behind a legitimate protest. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:21:36 pm
Comparing BLM organizers to fictional characters is racist, but comparing the Convoy organizers to fictional characters is not racist.  That's the third dumbest thing you've ever said.  But I get the Black Dog Double Standard.  Only you are allowed to be prejudice to a particular group.  Got it.

Correct, as "hillbilly" is not a racist trope the way "gangbanger" is.

Your inability to grasp basic concepts like this is astonishing. I'd suggest you donate your brain to science, but I fear they haven't invented a microscope powerful enough to study it. You are, without a doubt, the dumbest human being I have ever encountered in any capacity in all my years on this planet
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:24:22 pm
You're right, I don't speak fluent Marxism to deflect from the reasons behind a legitimate protest.

Yet you chose to weigh in on those terms like the walking, talking personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect that you are.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 12:26:06 pm
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Meanwhile in real life, here's (https://twitter.com/BreakenridgeYEG/status/1493385700237930497?s=20&t=oz8TrW51ZBgXv_djcR2cbA) the arsenal police seized from the Coutts blockade.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:26:27 pm
Correct, as "hillbilly" is not a racist trope the way "gangbanger" is.

Your inability to grasp basic concepts like this is astonishing. I'd suggest you donate your brain to science, but I fear they haven't invented a microscope powerful enough to study it. You are, without a doubt, the dumbest human being I have ever encountered in any capacity in all my years on this planet
I'm pretty sure it's a racist trope.  Why isn't it?  Because you say so?  Regardless, I grasp concepts like double standards, you should look into it.  You're full of them.  You can stereotype people all you want, but if somebody follows your lead, you lose your ****.  You can't stomach even a bit of your own medicine.  I've never encountered somebody more hypocritical than you.  Your very being is made of hypocrisy, and the worst part about it is you don't even recognize it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:28:08 pm
Yet you chose to weigh in on those terms like the walking, talking personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect that you are.
Keep deflecting.  It's amusing.  Now throw in some French Revolution lingo too.  Just don't acknowledge the vaccine mandate!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:29:20 pm
Meanwhile in real life, here's (https://twitter.com/BreakenridgeYEG/status/1493385700237930497?s=20&t=oz8TrW51ZBgXv_djcR2cbA) the arsenal police seized from the Coutts blockade.
Wow, legal fire arms, air guns and pellet guns too.  Now do BLM.  Are you a fan of molotov cocktails?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:31:59 pm
BREAKING: Ottawa Police Chief resigns: source

Na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!  Only one more to go, Trudeau himself.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 12:33:32 pm
Wish I cared about this thread more...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 12:53:37 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 12:57:56 pm
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You got a date on that big guy?  Regardless, that’s a vague question to ask.  Supporting the existing protest does not necessarily mean supporting the mandate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 01:03:24 pm
skippy and his truckerBros - man of the people!

(https://i.imgur.com/yE320s9.jpg)

wow! Poilievre's 2020 statement aged quite well - indeed!

(https://i.imgur.com/otZdE3T.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 01:08:52 pm
I'm pretty sure it's a racist trope.  Why isn't it?  Because you say so?  Regardless, I grasp concepts like double standards, you should look into it.  You're full of them.  You can stereotype people all you want, but if somebody follows your lead, you lose your ****.  You can't stomach even a bit of your own medicine.  I've never encountered somebody more hypocritical than you.  Your very being is made of hypocrisy, and the worst part about it is you don't even recognize it.

You think I care about being called a hypocrite by a lying ignoramus like you? My advice to you is to die mad about it.

Wow, legal fire arms, air guns and pellet guns too.  Now do BLM.  Are you a fan of molotov cocktails?

Which ones are the air and pellet guns? Also what does the fact that some of them are legal have to do with the fact they were being stockpiled for use against the cops?

BREAKING: Ottawa Police Chief resigns: source

Na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!  Only one more to go, Trudeau himself.

Resigned because of how he failed to deal with the protesters that everyone hates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 15, 2022, 01:19:01 pm
BREAKING: Ottawa Police Chief resigns: source

Na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!  Only one more to go, Trudeau himself.

Wouldn't celebrate too much, his successor could be a lot more competent.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 15, 2022, 01:37:57 pm
THEY'RE NOT WORKING CLASS

If you want to use that language they are 'petit bourgeoisie'

What do you mean? What’s wrong with working class? Petite bourgeoisie sounds worse to me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 01:39:18 pm
What do you mean? What’s wrong with working class? Petite bourgeoisie sounds worse to me.

I think that's his point.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 01:41:11 pm
Regardless, that’s a vague question to ask.  Supporting the existing protest does not necessarily mean supporting the mandate.

huh! The whole premise... one you've completely bought into... is that the 'protest' is about vaccine mandates! Geezaz, make up your mind, hey!

but hey, chew on this: Abacus Data - Feb 9-to-13

(https://i.imgur.com/roJ3zOU.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 01:44:16 pm
Wouldn't celebrate too much, his successor could be a lot more competent.

The whole department needs a housecleaning. Same with the Windsor cops who stood by let a handful of dinks hold up the bridge for weeks. Also, the RCMP down in Coutts are shaking hands and hugging the blockaders there as they go home, which just goes to show you can break the law without any consequence if the police are sympathetic to your cause.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 01:47:48 pm
The whole department needs a housecleaning. Same with the Windsor cops who stood by let a handful of dinks hold up the bridge for weeks. Also, the RCMP down in Coutts are shaking hands and hugging the blockaders there as they go home, which just goes to show you can break the law without any consequence if the police are sympathetic to your cause.
Good to know.  Hopefully you'll apply this standard to future protests that you agree with.  We'll forget that you didn't apply this standard to say the pipeline protest, or to BLM.  But I'm willing to let it slide this time.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 01:48:52 pm
huh! The whole premise... one you've completely bought into... is that the 'protest' is about vaccine mandates! Geezaz, make up your mind, hey!

but hey, chew on this: Abacus Data - Feb 9-to-13

(https://i.imgur.com/roJ3zOU.gif)
You're not differentiating between government mandates and private mandates.  You people still don't understand the difference.  I'm tired of explaining it to you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 01:53:24 pm
You think I care about being called a hypocrite by a lying ignoramus like you? My advice to you is to die mad about it.

Which ones are the air and pellet guns? Also what does the fact that some of them are legal have to do with the fact they were being stockpiled for use against the cops?

Resigned because of how he failed to deal with the protesters that everyone hates.
Your hyperbole continues to amaze me.  Stockpile? There's like 10 guns.  LOL!  To use against cops?  Why didn't they use them against the cops when before they were arrested?  You're a lying jackass.  You don't understand what stockpile means.  Regardless, if you know anything about guns it's fairly easy to tell the different between a real gun and air guns or pellet guns.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 02:42:04 pm
Your hyperbole continues to amaze me.  Stockpile? There's like 10 guns.  LOL! To use against cops?  Why didn't they use them against the cops when before they were arrested?  You're a lying jackass.  You don't understand what stockpile means.  Regardless, if you know anything about guns it's fairly easy to tell the different between a real gun and air guns or pellet guns.

Yeah dude they just brought a pile of guns and body armour to a "peaceful" protest for kicks.

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On Monday, Mounties said they received information about a small organized group within the larger protest. That group, according to RCMP, had access to a cache of firearms and ammunition.

In a raid of three trailers, officers seized long guns, handguns, multiple sets of body armour, a machete, a large quantity of ammunition and high-capacity firearm magazines.

Protest organizer Marco Van Huigenbos said the protest was "infiltrated by an extreme element" and a decision was made for the remaining group to roll out from Coutts on Tuesday morning.


You obviously don't know any of the details of this story, you should just delete your account again unless maybe you get off on being humiliated constantly.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 02:45:18 pm
Good to know.  Hopefully you'll apply this standard to future protests that you agree with.  We'll forget that you didn't apply this standard to say the pipeline protest, or to BLM.  But I'm willing to let it slide this time.

What the **** are you even talking about lol. You're just completely braindead at this point, just copying and pasting the same three responses to every post.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 02:49:59 pm
Yeah dude they just brought a pile of guns and body armour to a "peaceful" protest for kicks.


You obviously don't know any of the details of this story, you should just delete your account again unless maybe you get off on being humiliated constantly.
Yes of course, just like there are tons of confederate flags, etc too.  I guess we're just supposed to take their word for it huh.  Regardless, what exactly does that prove?  Some people had weapons that they didn't use against anyone.  Big **** deal.  How does that have anything to do with the protest over the government vaccine mandate?  Do you people focus on everything else purposely, or is it just a bad habit?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 02:51:59 pm
Harassing kids, these guys are scum.
 (https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/14/bc-schools-okanagan-anti-vaccine-protest/)
The RCMP is investigating after so-called “freedom convoy” protesters gathered at an Okanagan high school where one woman was filmed shouting racist insults and hurling slurs at students.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 02:55:49 pm
Harassing kids, these guys are scum.
 (https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/02/14/bc-schools-okanagan-anti-vaccine-protest/)
The RCMP is investigating after so-called “freedom convoy” protesters gathered at an Okanagan high school where one woman was filmed shouting racist insults and hurling slurs at students.
The protest is in Ottawa dufus.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 02:56:24 pm
Yes of course, just like there are tons of confederate flags, etc too.  I guess we're just supposed to take their word for it huh.  Regardless, what exactly does that prove?  Some people had weapons that they didn't use against anyone.  Big **** deal.  How does that have anything to do with the protest over the government vaccine mandate?  Do you people focus on everything else purposely, or is it just a bad habit?

The people arrested who had their cache of weapons and ammo seized were participating in the illegal border blockade protesting the government mandate. I hope that clarifies things for you, person who didn't read the story.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 02:56:41 pm
The protest is in Ottawa dufus.

There's copycats across the country, moron.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 02:59:52 pm
The people arrested who had their cache of weapons and ammo seized were participating in the illegal border blockade protesting the government mandate. I hope that clarifies things for you, person who didn't read the story.
And?  That means the mandates are justified?  Your arguments are non-sequiturs.  It’s just character assassination and cherry-picking instances.  Give it a rest already.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:00:22 pm
There's copycats across the country, moron.
Now do BLM.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 03:07:01 pm
Your arguments are non-sequiturs.  It’s just character assassination and cherry-picking instances. 
Is that what you told yourself this morning when you saw that a Black guy committed a crime snd decided to try and blame it on the whole BLM movement?
Are you really that dumb that you don't see you're the worst offender of the hypocrisy you pretend to oppose? Really?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 03:07:39 pm
And?  That means the mandates are justified?  Your arguments are non-sequiturs.

My argument has always been this protest movement is not about the mandates, but a grab bag of half-assed grievances bringing out a range of right wing freaks and stories like this back it up.

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It’s just character assassination and cherry-picking instances.  Give it a rest already.

Whose character is being assassinated, the people who were arrested?

Now do BLM.

Your obsession with BLM is really odd given that it's 2022 and not 2020. But I guess when you're a racist like you, just knowing black people exist must be constantly anxiety-inducing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:15:26 pm
I wonder if the BLM protests have changed the way people look at oppression and settler colonialism outside of our own context.
I'm not sure.  It's possible.  As long as the instances of violence etc are overlooked.  Are you sure of the backgrounds and political beliefs of those protesting?  LOL
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 03:19:10 pm
I'm not sure.  It's possible.  As long as the instances of violence etc are overlooked.  Are you sure of the backgrounds and political beliefs of those protesting?  LOL

those are definitely a bunch of words lmao.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 03:26:03 pm
huh! The whole premise... one you've completely bought into... is that the 'protest' is about vaccine mandates! 

I moderate a community FB page - all the Convoy people hate Trudeau.  It's about Trudeau, period.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:27:29 pm
I moderate a community FB page - all the Convoy people hate Trudeau.  It's about Trudeau, period.
Yes, they hate Trudeau because in large part of the mandate.  That's why you didn't see protesters say, a year ago, or 6 months ago.  Amazing huh?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:28:19 pm
those are definitely a bunch of words lmao.
Yep the Black Dog Double Standard, at it's best!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 03:35:19 pm
Yes, they hate Trudeau because in large part of the mandate.  That's why you didn't see protesters say, a year ago, or 6 months ago.  Amazing huh?

From 2019 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-united-we-roll-convoy-organizer-1.5031454):

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The lead organizer of the United We Roll convoy says rallies held in Ottawa last week were "100 per cent, unequivocally," a success.

"Bigger than we even expected," said Glen Carritt, who organized the convoy which saw nearly 170 semis and trucks leave Red Deer, Alta., on Feb. 14 bound for the nation's capital where they held rallies over two days on Parliament Hill.

"Because of all the Canadian people we met along the way, right from the day we left … and all the people we saw in Ontario. That's what it was all about, all of those people we saw."

The group has said its chief complaint was that the federal government's energy and environmental policies are hurting Alberta's beleaguered oil and gas sector, but members also protested the Liberal government more broadly, globalism and migration.

Same people (https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-freedom-convoy-lead-truck-driver-charged-with-assault-mischief-after-altercation-1.5772956), different gripe.

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The lead driver of a "Freedom Convoy" of trucks that travelled through central Alberta last week is facing assault and mischief charges following an altercation with a motorist, RCMP say.

On Feb. 3, the truckers were travelling from Eckville to Sylvan Lake when Mounties say a pickup truck pulled in front of the lead truck, effectively "blocking the convoy."

Police claim Glen Daniel Carritt, 56, exited the truck he was driving at the head of the convoy, and approached the driver of the pickup before an altercation ensued.

Carritt is a former Innisfail councillor who was defeated in an effort to become the town's mayor in last October's election.

He has been a vocal opponent of COVID-19 measures and was a lead organizer for the 2019 United We Roll truck convoy that trucked to Ottawa.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 03:37:55 pm
Yep the Black Dog Double Standard, at it's best!

LOL you just did a search for my user name and BLM and just quote something at random and that's a gotcha? Can you actually articulate where the double standard lies? i doubt it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:42:13 pm
LOL you just did a search for my user name and BLM and just quote something at random and that's a gotcha? Can you actually articulate where the double standard lies? i doubt it.
And here's you defending the violence that took place at BLM riots!  LOL!

Yes lots of extremely stupid people blamed antifa for the violence during the BLM protests when it was the cops who went on a spree of beating and gassing and maiming the people who protested George Floyd's murder. Oh and then there were all the incidents of violence precipitated by right wingers like the umbrella guy (https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist).
You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen in my entire life.  You're a joke, and complete and utter joke.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 03:46:20 pm
And here's you defending the violence that took place at BLM riots!  LOL!

That's weird because in that post I'm specifically criticizing violence that took place during the BLM protests that was instigated by police and far-right provocateurs. Try again, b*itch!

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You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen in my entire life.  You're a joke, and complete and utter joke.

(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/519ee078bbad47ccabbbab6a22287801.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 03:50:00 pm
That's weird because in that post I'm specifically criticizing violence that took place during the BLM protests that was instigated by police and far-right provocateurs. Try again, b*itch!

(https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/519ee078bbad47ccabbbab6a22287801.jpg)
You sound like Qanon!  More like BlueAnon.  That's quite a conspiracy theory you got there.  So the protests you approve of, any violence that takes place is the responsibility of other shadowy groups and by undercover police huh?  You're too f**king funny!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 03:58:10 pm
Yes, they hate Trudeau because in large part of the mandate.  That's why you didn't see protesters say, a year ago, or 6 months ago.  Amazing huh?

There were protests before this, yes, and they were the same idea...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 04:06:50 pm
You sound like Qanon!  More like BlueAnon.  That's quite a conspiracy theory you got there.  So the protests you approve of, any violence that takes place is the responsibility of other shadowy groups and by undercover police huh?  You're too f**king funny!

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Officials have arrested more than 14,000 people across 49 cities nationwide since May 27, according to a Washington Post tally of data provided by police departments and included in media reports. Thousands were arrested for low-level offenses, including curfew violations and failure to disperse.

Roughly 80 federal charges, including murder and throwing molotov cocktails at police vehicles, reveal no evidence of an antifa plot. Four people who identify with the far-right extremist “boogaloo” movement are among those facing the most serious federal charges.

...
Rather, the bulletin said that “the greatest threat of lethal violence continues to emanate from lone offenders with racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist ideologies and [domestic violent extremists] with personalized ideologies,” specifically pointing to boogaloo-related groups as likely to be “instigating violence” at the protests.

link (https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpolitics%2F2020%2F06%2F22%2Fwho-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa%2F)

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Amnesty International has documented 125 separate incidents of police violence against protesters in 40 states and the District of Columbia between 26 May and 5 June 2020. These acts of excessive force were committed by members of state and local police departments, as well as by National Guard troops and security force personnel from several federal agencies. Among the abuses documented are beatings, the misuse of tear gas and pepper spray, and the inappropriate and, at times, indiscriminate firing of less-lethal projectiles, such as sponge rounds and rubber bullets.

link (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/06/usa-unlawful-use-of-force-by-police-at-black-lives-matter-protests/)

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The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation.

link (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis)

Your feeble attempts to brand the entire BLM movement as violent keeps running afoul of these pesky things called "facts".

Oh and here's another one:

Over 300 People Facing Federal Charges For Crimes Committed During Nationwide Demonstrations
 (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-300-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-nationwide-demonstrations)

300 people out of hundreds of thousands that took part in protests across dozens of cities over several months. By comparison, more than 700 people  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/31/capitol-deadly-attack-insurrection-arrested-convicted/)are facing federal charges relating to the January 6 incursion in D.C, an event you constantly downplay.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 04:43:59 pm
There were protests before this, yes, and they were the same idea...

I posted this before, but here's another link between the current protests and the 2019 United We Roll convoy.

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James Bauder created “Canada Unity,” the group behind the “Freedom Convoy” that has shut down Canada’s national capital. Bauder also authored the group’s rambling “memorandum of understanding,” which calls for deposing Canada’s elected government.

Two years ago, Bauder was part of a similar far-right convoy that mobbed a picket line and threatened to run over locked-out oil refinery workers.

link (https://pressprogress.ca/anti-vax-convoy-organizers-previously-targeted-striking-oil-refinery-workers-in-alberta/)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 05:16:40 pm
link (https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpolitics%2F2020%2F06%2F22%2Fwho-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa%2F)

link (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/06/usa-unlawful-use-of-force-by-police-at-black-lives-matter-protests/)

link (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis)

Your feeble attempts to brand the entire BLM movement as violent keeps running afoul of these pesky things called "facts".

Oh and here's another one:

Over 300 People Facing Federal Charges For Crimes Committed During Nationwide Demonstrations
 (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-300-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-nationwide-demonstrations)

300 people out of hundreds of thousands that took part in protests across dozens of cities over several months. By comparison, more than 700 people  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/31/capitol-deadly-attack-insurrection-arrested-convicted/)are facing federal charges relating to the January 6 incursion in D.C, an event you constantly downplay.
You’re BlueAnon.  You won’t even acknowledge the violence that took place during your beloved BLM riots.  You won’t even acknowledge the existence of Antifa.  These are undisputed facts.  Do you think the courthouse in Portland was under siege for several months by undercover cops?  Do you think undercover police burned down police precincts?  Do you think it was undercover cops that harassed people at businesses?  Even you’re not that stupid.  You’re just a disingenuous, intellectually dishonest authoritarian loving political hack.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 05:17:04 pm
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 05:26:06 pm
Just a quick question.  How many businesses have been burned down during the last couple of weeks?  Would you like to compare that number with Black Dog’s beloved BLM riots?  How about we compare people killed?  Officers assaulted?  Police officers killed?  Black Dog’s beloved BLM riots win hands down.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 05:26:38 pm
You’re BlueAnon.  You won’t even acknowledge the violence that took place during your beloved BLM riots.  You won’t even acknowledge the existence of Antifa.  These are undisputed facts. 

So why do you need me to acknowledge them?

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Do you think the courthouse in Portland was under siege for several months by undercover cops?  Do you think undercover police burned down police precincts?  Do you think it was undercover cops that harassed people at businesses?  Even you’re not that stupid.  You’re just a disingenuous, intellectually dishonest authoritarian loving political hack.

See, what you're doing here is the exact same thing your whinging and moaning that everyone else is doing  to your beloved truckheads only you're too goddamn dumb to see it.

If not acknowledging certain elements and actions within the BLM movement makes us hypocrites, then your failure to do the same with these dunderheads in Ottawa and elsewhere now make you a hypocrite too (and no, "you guys did it first" isn't a defense, it's an acknowledgement that you have no principles). Your constant whining and crying about double standards is boring and ineffective, get a new tack or better yet, just go away.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 05:27:38 pm
Just a quick question.  How many businesses have been burned down during the last couple of weeks?  Would you like to compare that number with Black Dog’s beloved BLM riots?  How about we compare people killed?  Officers assaulted?  Police officers killed?  Black Dog’s beloved BLM riots win hands down.

LOL one of the Coutts protesters has been charged with attempted murder for trying to run a cop over with a semi but dingleberry here won't say boo about that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 05:28:57 pm
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Agree with MLK but you'd have to be a humoungus dumbass and probably a bit of a racist to equate vaccine mandates with Jim Crow laws.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 15, 2022, 05:42:41 pm
What’s with all the American memes?  Shady can’t find some Canadian ones?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 05:46:31 pm
Agree with MLK but you'd have to be a humoungus dumbass and probably a bit of a racist to equate vaccine mandates with Jim Crow laws.
Did you know BLM is against vaccine mandates and have issued support for the convoy protest?  I know I know, BLM’s just a bunch of racist white supremacists looking to overthrow the government! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 06:02:48 pm
Did you know BLM is against vaccine mandates and have issued support for the convoy protest?  I know I know, BLM’s just a bunch of racist white supremacists looking to overthrow the government! 😂
Are there even any Black people in London to have humiliated you and made you so obsessed with them?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 06:05:59 pm
Did you know BLM is against vaccine mandates and have issued support for the convoy protest?  I know I know, BLM’s just a bunch of racist white supremacists looking to overthrow the government! 😂

That must be a pickle for you since you think BLM are a bunch of violent gangbangers.

(Not that I buy this anyway)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 06:17:57 pm
How would a decentralized movement support a convoy? It's not like there's a BLM press secretary making statements. Just when I thought he couldn't be stupider...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 06:23:17 pm
How would a decentralized movement support a convoy? It's not like there's a BLM press secretary making statements. Just when I thought he couldn't be stupider...
https://blacklivesmatter.com/

Their verified Twitter account. @BlkLivesMatter
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 06:53:15 pm
https://blacklivesmatter.com/

Their verified Twitter account. @BlkLivesMatter
Uh huh. Now where is the statement in support of the convoy?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 15, 2022, 07:26:14 pm
Uh huh. Now where is the statement in support of the convoy?

Great question….

Well, Shady?? 

Give us the tweet from BLM supporting the occupation.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 07:36:30 pm
https://blacklivesmatter.com/

Their verified Twitter account. @BlkLivesMatter

No results for convoy or mandate on either page. Another Shady whopper falls to pieces.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 07:42:15 pm
Just a reminder:

Six weeks of blockaded rail lines, 60+ ships awaiting unloading at both East & West coasts, Quebec in dire need of propane which couldn't be shipped via rail due to blockades.

Sabotage, fires, thousands laid off, food/necessities shortages, CN sued for $270M (was dropped), property damaged.

And not once was an Emergencies Act even suggested.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 15, 2022, 07:48:22 pm
No results for convoy or mandate on either page. Another Shady whopper falls to pieces.

He just makes **** up.

I think a Mod should remove anything from Shady that is just pulled from his a-s-s.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 15, 2022, 08:09:22 pm
Just a reminder:

Six weeks of blockaded rail lines, 60+ ships awaiting unloading at both East & West coasts, Quebec in dire need of propane which couldn't be shipped via rail due to blockades.

Sabotage, fires, thousands laid off, food/necessities shortages, CN sued for $270M (was dropped), property damaged.

And not once was an Emergencies Act even suggested.

CN sued for $270 so the actual damage was less than that.  And they dropped it.

The estimate for this blockade is 10X to 20X that so YES it was a bigger deal.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/ambassador-bridge-protest-cost-1.6351312
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:12:27 pm
Uh huh. Now where is the statement in support of the convoy?

BLM is AGAINST vaccine mandates.

Vaccine Mandates Put Black Lives Matter Activists on Collision Course With Democrats
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/vaccine-mandates-black-lives-matter-activists-collision-course-democrats-1631612%3famp=1

The posts in support I saw were on Twitter.  I’ll try to find the links.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 08:16:37 pm
Just a reminder:

Six weeks of blockaded rail lines, 60+ ships awaiting unloading at both East & West coasts, Quebec in dire need of propane which couldn't be shipped via rail due to blockades.

Sabotage, fires, thousands laid off, food/necessities shortages, CN sued for $270M (was dropped), property damaged.

And not once was an Emergencies Act even suggested.
Just a reminder: You avoided my question like a halfwitted coward.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:17:33 pm
CN sued for $270 so the actual damage was less than that.  And they dropped it.

The estimate for this blockade is 10X to 20X that so YES it was a bigger deal.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/ambassador-bridge-protest-cost-1.6351312
Remember when you spoke out against it?  Or the media looked into the backgrounds of the people protesting?  Remember when the government froze bank accounts?  Yeah, me neither.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:21:37 pm
Minorities part of the protest, the mainstream media will never show you.

https://youtu.be/pgybNnNkzkQ
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 08:32:03 pm
The New York Times comes out in support of the protest.

We disagree with the protesters’ cause, but they have a right to be noisy and even disruptive. Protests are a necessary form of expression in a democratic society, particularly for those whose opinions do not command broad popular support. Governments have a responsibility to prevent violence by protesters, but they must be willing to accept some degree of disruption by those seeking to be heard.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/opinion/ottawa-trucker-protests.amp.html
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 08:43:46 pm
The New York Times comes out in support of the protest.

We disagree with the protesters’ cause, but they have a right to be noisy and even disruptive. Protests are a necessary form of expression in a democratic society, particularly for those whose opinions do not command broad popular support. Governments have a responsibility to prevent violence by protesters, but they must be willing to accept some degree of disruption by those seeking to be heard.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/opinion/ottawa-trucker-protests.amp.html
You didn't even read the first sentence that said "we disagree with the protesters' cause?" It clearly comes out in support of protests in general and in opposition to their cause. I can't believe how bad you are at reading.

So NYT supporting protests (but not necessarily occupations and border blockades) is all you could find to prove BLM supports the convoy? Good try.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:04:28 pm
He just makes **** up.

I think a Mod should remove anything from Shady that is just pulled from his a-s-s.

So all his posts? Harsh, but fair.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:09:42 pm
BLM is AGAINST vaccine mandates.

Vaccine Mandates Put Black Lives Matter Activists on Collision Course With Democrats
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/vaccine-mandates-black-lives-matter-activists-collision-course-democrats-1631612%3famp=1

The posts in support I saw were on Twitter.  I’ll try to find the links.

The BLM guy quoted is just some random dude who made up his own BLM organization.

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Today, Donald Trump attributed a quote to a “Black Lives Matter leader” on his social media. We have traced these comments to Hawk Newsome. Hawk Newsome has no relation to the Black Lives Matter Global Network (“BLM”) founded by Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, and Opal Tometi — and is not the “president” of BLM or any of its chapters. Only BLM chapters who adhere to BLM’s principles and code of ethics are permitted to use the BLM name. The reason for this is simple: unaffiliated uses of BLM’s name are confusing to people who may wrongly associate the unsanctioned group and its views and actions with BLM. As BLM has told Mr. Newsome in the past, and as is still true today, Mr. Newsome’s group is not a chapter of BLM and has not entered into any agreement with BLM agreeing to adhere to BLM’s core principles. The only official chapter of BLM in New York is Black Lives Matter NYC.

link (https://blacklivesmatter.com/for-immediate-release-statement-by-kailee-scales-managing-director-of-blm-global-network/)


Also gonna leave this here for no particular reason: How a decaying legacy magazine is being used to launder right-wing ideas and conspiracy theories. (https://newrepublic.com/article/158968/newsweek-rise-zombie-magazine)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 09:14:30 pm
The BLM guy quoted is just some random dude who made up his own BLM organization.

link (https://blacklivesmatter.com/for-immediate-release-statement-by-kailee-scales-managing-director-of-blm-global-network/)


Also gonna leave this here for no particular reason: How a decaying legacy magazine is being used to launder right-wing ideas and conspiracy theories. (https://newrepublic.com/article/158968/newsweek-rise-zombie-magazine)

Black Lives Matter of Greater New York leader blasts vaccine mandates as racist and disrespectful
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/black-lives-matter-greater-york-200600400.html
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:19:55 pm

Black Lives Matter of Greater New York leader blasts vaccine mandates as racist and disrespectful
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/black-lives-matter-greater-york-200600400.html

(https://i.imgflip.com/65e23c.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:25:29 pm
Minorities part of the protest, the mainstream media will never show you.

Conservatives: "Identity politics is bad except when we can trot out a few token minorities to pretend our whitebread movement is actually diverse."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 15, 2022, 09:33:30 pm
Here's a few more nuggets about Shady's new favourite "BLM" figure:

Hawk Newsome defends looters, compares America to ‘terrorists’
 (https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/blm-leader-hawk-newsome-defends-looters-compares-america-to-terrorists/)

A Black Lives Matter leader vowed there’ll be “riots,” “fire” and “bloodshed” if Mayor-elect Eric Adams follows through with his promise to bring back plainclothes anti-crime cops to battle New York’s surge in violent crimes. (https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/blm-leader-hawk-newsome-threatens-riots-after-sit-down-with-eric-adams/)

Now personally if I was a guy who constantly whined about BLM violence, I would probably think twice about enthusiastically citing an apologist for violence who happened to share my feelings on vaccine mandates, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 09:43:26 pm
Conservatives: "Identity politics is bad except when we can trot out a few token minorities to pretend our whitebread movement is actually diverse."
Minorities that don’t toe the libtard line are always characterized as token.  It’s part of the inherit racism of libtards.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 15, 2022, 09:46:43 pm
Minorities aren’t allowed to have varied political opinions like white people.  They must have the same view, according to libtards.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 15, 2022, 09:49:06 pm
Minorities aren’t allowed to have varied political opinions like white people.  They must have the same view, according to libtards.
Political violence is always wrong.You shouldn't support it even if you agree with the person doing it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 09:58:46 pm
but hey, chew on this: Abacus Data - Feb 9-to-13

(https://i.imgur.com/roJ3zOU.gif)

You're not differentiating between government mandates and private mandates.  You people still don't understand the difference.  I'm tired of explaining it to you.

you are so full of shyte! {Not} sorry to have burst your bubble over the degree of Canadian support for vaccine mandates - hey!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 15, 2022, 10:02:14 pm
official Gazette publishing of the Proclamation declaring a Public Order Emergency - full particulars here (https://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2022/2022-02-15-x1/pdf/g2-156x1.pdf):

(https://i.imgur.com/6rKr7IF.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 15, 2022, 10:55:03 pm
I'd like to know EXACTLY their reasoning for why the city of Ottawa, the province, and the feds feel they need these emergency powers.  What can't they do now, under the law, that they NEED to do to quell these already illegal acts that some of these truckers are doing.

Emergency powers are a license to violate the legal rights of citizens.  No warrants needed to search or seize etc.  These are very dangerous waters our governments are wading into.  The feds need to be watched.  There needs to be oversight and accountability for them too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 16, 2022, 02:04:48 am
I'd like to know EXACTLY their reasoning for why the city of Ottawa, the province, and the feds feel they need these emergency powers.  What can't they do now, under the law, that they NEED to do to quell these already illegal acts that some of these truckers are doing.

Well, I'm not sure if you've been paying attention to the news but apparently the police can't do their effing jobs and get rid of the menace in Ottawa.

The Act is used when:

an urgent and critical situation of a temporary nature that seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it or seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada.

We have foreign influences interfering in our public lives and our police are filmed hugging the protestors. Apparently some of those that work forces are the same than honk hornses.

This is a perfect case of FAFO for all those occupiers and the ahole police playing footsies with them.

ETA: and if you still think this is all innocent peaceful anti-mandate protesting, you couldn't be more wrong: https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-protest-weapons-ammunition-seized/

This is not a drill, these people are dangerous and the longer this nonsense goes on, the more incited they become. Glad to see Trudeau finally getting some Pierre Trudeau cojones.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 08:52:18 am
I'd like to know EXACTLY their reasoning for why the city of Ottawa, the province, and the feds feel they need these emergency powers.  What can't they do now, under the law, that they NEED to do to quell these already illegal acts that some of these truckers are doing.

Emergency powers are a license to violate the legal rights of citizens.  No warrants needed to search or seize etc.  These are very dangerous waters our governments are wading into.  The feds need to be watched.  There needs to be oversight and accountability for them too.
Well said.  They already have the authority to tow vehicles etc.  This is turning into a constitutional crisis, thanks to feckless Trudeau and the Ottawa police department.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 08:53:50 am
Well, I'm not sure if you've been paying attention to the news but apparently the police can't do their effing jobs and get rid of the menace in Ottawa.

The Act is used when:

an urgent and critical situation of a temporary nature that seriously endangers the lives, health or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions or nature as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with it or seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada.

We have foreign influences interfering in our public lives and our police are filmed hugging the protestors. Apparently some of those that work forces are the same than honk hornses.

This is a perfect case of FAFO for all those occupiers and the ahole police playing footsies with them.

ETA: and if you still think this is all innocent peaceful anti-mandate protesting, you couldn't be more wrong: https://globalnews.ca/news/8618494/alberta-coutts-border-protest-weapons-ammunition-seized/

This is not a drill, these people are dangerous and the longer this nonsense goes on, the more incited they become. Glad to see Trudeau finally getting some Pierre Trudeau cojones.
Nonsense.  They already have the authority to lie vehicles etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 08:56:07 am
you are so full of shyte! {Not} sorry to have burst your bubble over the degree of Canadian support for vaccine mandates - hey!
So what?  Canadians have supported some pretty terrible policies in the past thanks to an “emergency”.  Policies that ended up being apologized for, and settlements issued.  Regardless, you people need to learn the important difference between government mandates and a private business.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 09:33:01 am
Minorities aren’t allowed to have varied political opinions like white people.  They must have the same view, according to libtards.

LOL this has nothing to do with their political opinions and everything to do with the cynical and racist way you are using them to fake broad and diverse support for your whitebread whiner movement.

Any other time you'd be posting that Hawk Newsome guy as an example of the violent and lawless tendencies of BLM, but since he's also against mandates you're happy to embrace him because you have no principles beyond "owning the libs" and being racist.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 16, 2022, 09:37:53 am
Well said.  They already have the authority to tow vehicles etc.  This is turning into a constitutional crisis, thanks to feckless Trudeau and the Ottawa police department.

This demonstration is well past its best before date. It has lost the room and can only do it's cause more damage by persisting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 09:47:59 am
This demonstration is well past its best before date. It has lost the room and can only do it's cause more damage by persisting.
I tend to agree.  But the Emergency Act wasn't required to start towing vehicles etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 09:51:28 am
LOL this has nothing to do with their political opinions and everything to do with the cynical and racist way you are using them to fake broad and diverse support for your whitebread whiner movement.

Any other time you'd be posting that Hawk Newsome guy as an example of the violent and lawless tendencies of BLM, but since he's also against mandates you're happy to embrace him because you have no principles beyond "owning the libs" and being racist.
How they're used?  Like they can't or don't have any opinion of their own?  Like they don't have the ability to decide for themselves about participating in this protest?  How racist can you be?  Seriously?  You guys are brutal.  How long are you going to insist that minorities stay on your ideological plantation?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 16, 2022, 10:18:45 am
I tend to agree.  But the Emergency Act wasn't required to start towing vehicles etc.

The idea was that the trucks weren't towing voluntarily...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 16, 2022, 10:19:55 am
I tend to agree.  But the Emergency Act wasn't required to start towing vehicles etc.

It allows government to force tow companies to start towing vehicles.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:24:28 am
The idea was that the trucks weren't towing voluntarily...
Yes, vehicles don't have the ability to tow themselves.  Do you think Trudeau just figured this out?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:25:25 am
It allows government to force tow companies to start towing vehicles.
How does it do that?  If a tow truck driver doesn't get in his truck and drive somewhere, how do they force him?  By gunpoint?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 10:27:48 am
They already have the authority to tow vehicles etc.  This is turning into a constitutional crisis, thanks to feckless Trudeau and the Ottawa police department.
But the Emergency Act wasn't required to start towing vehicles etc.

as always, you're so misinformed - towing companies refused requests to tow!

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Mark Graves, who runs the Provincial Towing Association of Ontario, said his members have been inundated with requests from the city and police to tow protester vehicles – all prior to the Emergencies Act being invoked on Monday – and the response has been a unanimous no.

“It would be business suicide,” he said. “These are the trucking companies that call you for the work when they break down on the side of the road. You think … they’re ever going to call you again? You may as well just write your own ticket to shut your business down.”
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 10:31:21 am
How they're used?  Like they can't or don't have any opinion of their own?  Like they don't have the ability to decide for themselves about participating in this protest? How racist can you be?  Seriously?  You guys are brutal.  How long are you going to insist that minorities stay on your ideological plantation?

Of course they can, you moron. But you're pretending there's significant representation there when there is not. Just like how you pretend this whole protest is the voice of the majority when the majority doesn't agree with you.

But tell me more about BLM's support for this convoy and opposition to vaccines, you lying turd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 10:41:28 am
caravans at the border! (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1491917377407225859/vid/1280x720/WwjeAVUF26jxugZo.mp4?tag=14) Puurfect, hey member Shady!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:42:08 am
as always, you're so misinformed - towing companies refused requests to tow!
Authority and ability are two separate things.  Regardless, how are you going to force a tow driver to tow a vehicle?  By gunpoint?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:44:08 am
Of course they can, you moron. But you're pretending there's significant representation there when there is not. Just like how you pretend this whole protest is the voice of the majority when the majority doesn't agree with you.

But tell me more about BLM's support for this convoy and opposition to vaccines, you lying turd.
The term significant is subjective.  However, you pretend to not notice them at all.  Regardless, I don't take orders from glittering jewels of hypocrisy.  Now go and apply two separate standards to the convoy protest, vs the pipeline protest or the BLM protests.  You're good at that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 10:47:07 am
Regardless, how are you going to force a tow driver to tow a vehicle?  By gunpoint?

regardless? Nice backpedal from your bullshyte claims implying towing requests weren't made! How? How you say? Just watch me, hey!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:52:09 am
regardless? Nice backpedal from your bullshyte claims implying towing requests weren't made! How? How you say? Just watch me, hey!
I didn't backpedal on anything.  They had the AUTHORITY under the law to tow vehicles before the Emergency declaration.  That's a fact.  Now go on and order drivers to tow vehicles by gun point.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 16, 2022, 10:54:41 am
Authority and ability are two separate things.  Regardless, how are you going to force a tow driver to tow a vehicle?  By gunpoint?

No, criminal charges.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 10:58:48 am
No, criminal charges.
Not really.  The Emergency Act allows them to bypass due process, so no court order is required to freeze bank accounts.  But you can't lock up Canadian citizens without due process.  You people have lost your minds.  This isn't China, even though Trudeau wishes it was.  And even though you people wish it was.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 16, 2022, 11:01:27 am
Apparently we already had peak fascism last week, so this must be no big deal. Check your bank account yet! How's the crypto holding up?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 11:04:14 am
They had the AUTHORITY under the law to tow vehicles before the Emergency declaration.  That's a fact.

who is "they"? As you say, regardless... towing companies refused to tow - point in fact. There are now fewer trucks and more leaving as the waldo speaks - virtual towing, hey! Local policing jurisdictions now have the Emergency Act tools to help clear the rabble, without the need for your zealous want for violence.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:04:32 am
The term significant is subjective. 

How about "big"?

Even at the protests.  Big groups of Sikh and Black truckers.

So far, we've seen a few individuals, but "big groups"? Nah.

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However, you pretend to not notice them at all.  Regardless, I don't take orders from glittering jewels of hypocrisy.

LOL, the guy who runs around demanding people denounce this or that cries like a baby when he's busted in yet another self-own.

I guess getting slapped around by me on a daily basis here is cheaper than hiring a dominatrix, but it's pretty boring.

Quote
Now go and apply two separate standards to the convoy protest, vs the pipeline protest or the BLM protests.  You're good at that.

Kinda like how you are happy to quote a guy who defends riots related to BLM when he is on your side on this issue?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:06:54 am
Apparently we already had peak fascism last week, so this must be no big deal. Check your bank account yet! How's the crypto holding up?
Hey, it's Police State Bubber!  My crypto is doing pretty well thanks. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:07:29 am
$14.1 million spent on police over 18 days of Ottawa convoy occupation
 (https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/14-1-million-spent-on-police-over-18-days-of-ottawa-convoy-occupation-1.5781430)

The real total will no doubt be higher but if this doesn't highlight what a giant waste of money police budgets are, I don't know what will. $14 M and counting and nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:08:30 am
who is "they"? As you say, regardless... towing companies refused to tow - point in fact. There are now fewer trucks and more leaving as the waldo speaks - virtual towing, hey! Local policing jurisdictions now have the Emergency Act tools to help clear the rabble, without the need for your zealous want for violence.
They is the government(s).  You keep telling yourself that they have new "tools" to move the trucks.  But the only tool is at 24 Sussex.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:10:19 am
$14.1 million spent on police over 18 days of Ottawa convoy occupation
 (https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/14-1-million-spent-on-police-over-18-days-of-ottawa-convoy-occupation-1.5781430)

The real total will no doubt be higher but if this doesn't highlight what a giant waste of money police budgets are, I don't know what will. $14 M and counting and nothing to show for it.
Yes it's a big waste.  Almost as big as Trudeau's meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.  The vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, and truckers are in their cabins 20 hours a day, and not the cause of mass virus spread.  He should stick to the science and he wouldn't have run into this convoy protest.  Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:11:59 am
Yes it's a big waste.  Almost as big as Trudeau's meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.  The vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, and truckers are in their cabins 20 hours a day, and not the cause of mass virus spread.  He should stick to the science and he wouldn't have run into this convoy protest.  Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson.


The trucker mandate doesn't cost us anything.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:12:29 am
How about "big"?

So far, we've seen a few individuals, but "big groups"? Nah.

LOL, the guy who runs around demanding people denounce this or that cries like a baby when he's busted in yet another self-own.

I guess getting slapped around by me on a daily basis here is cheaper than hiring a dominatrix, but it's pretty boring.

Kinda like how you are happy to quote a guy who defends riots related to BLM when he is on your side on this issue?
You see what the mainstream media allows you to see.  Address me after you've addressed your Black Dog Double Standard applied to the pipeline protest, BLM protests vs the Convoy protest.  Until then, STFU. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 16, 2022, 11:16:32 am
You see what the mainstream media allows you to see.  Address me after you've addressed your Black Dog Double Standard applied to the pipeline protest, BLM protests vs the Convoy protest.  Until then, STFU.
So there's no more decentralized Internet with people live streaming from their cell phones anymore? It's just one big MSM deciding what you see, except for when it isn't? You must think someone on this board is as stupid as you for you to bother with such ridiculous arguments.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 11:18:17 am
They is the government(s).  You keep telling yourself that they have new "tools" to move the trucks.  But the only tool is at 24 Sussex.

new tools - yes, new tools! One of which was highlighted by Deputy PM Freeland when she stated that the government is "serving notice" to trucking companies with vehicles involved in any of the blockades that they will have their corporate accounts frozen and lose their insurance. There are a number of twitter accounts that have lengthy tweets that include truck photos... photo after photo after photo... intended to highlight associated company names. For some strange reason, deTruckers took exception to having photos of their bigRigs taken - go figure, hey! An expected natural fallout of these tweets was as assortment of employee firings - apparently one large trucking company owner sent a tow-truck (from the company's Alberta base) to bring the company truck back to Alberta. The point being: phack around and find out!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:18:23 am
You see what the mainstream media allows you to see. 

Nope, nothing on social media either, just a few randos. if there were in fact big groups, you'd have posted it, but like the "BLM supports the convoy" claim, you can't because you're a sh*tty liar.

Quote
Address me after you've addressed your Black Dog Double Standard applied to the pipeline protest, BLM protests vs the Convoy protest.  Until then, STFU.

lol you mad. See you at your next beating.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 11:22:27 am
Almost as big as Trudeau's meaningless trucker vaccine mandate.  The vast majority of truckers are vaccinated, and truckers are in their cabins 20 hours a day, and not the cause of mass virus spread.  He should stick to the science and he wouldn't have run into this convoy protest.  Hopefully he's learned a valuable lesson.

you've already been schooled previously on this - several times now! Again, there is no "trucker vaccine mandate". Rather, the exception that included essential workers (like truckers) was rescinded - with a couple of months prior notification to the rescind date.

quit making shyte up, hey!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:26:48 am
I am loathe to quote this guy (https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1493712753806262275?s=20&t=JngKYm8WuG1K41TGTnMShQ) because the whole war criminal thing, but when he's right he's right:

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There are evidently many people who think it's an outrageous act of tyranny to tow illegally parked trucks, but perfectly normal political discourse to storm Congress to overturn a presidential election by violence.

We have one of those idiots here.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:28:52 am

The trucker mandate doesn't cost us anything.
It has, you just outlined the costs.  Those costs continue to climb.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:29:46 am
So there's no more decentralized Internet with people live streaming from their cell phones anymore? It's just one big MSM deciding what you see, except for when it isn't? You must think someone on this board is as stupid as you for you to bother with such ridiculous arguments.
You people have ignored those streams, etc.  You call them tokens.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:31:46 am
new tools - yes, new tools! One of which was highlighted by Deputy PM Freeland when she stated that the government is "serving notice" to trucking companies with vehicles involved in any of the blockades that they will have their corporate accounts frozen and lose their insurance. There are a number of twitter accounts that have lengthy tweets that include truck photos... photo after photo after photo... intended to highlight associated company names. For some strange reason, deTruckers took exception to having photos of their bigRigs taken - go figure, hey! An expected natural fallout of these tweets was as assortment of employee firings - apparently one large trucking company owner sent a tow-truck (from the company's Alberta base) to bring the company truck back to Alberta. The point being: phack around and find out!
What does "serving notice" mean?  Does that have any legitimacy in court?  Regardless, I don't know of many Towing companies that are participating in the blockade, especially from Otawa.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:32:40 am
It has, you just outlined the costs.  Those costs continue to climb.

The mandate didn't cost anything, the idiots protesting it did.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:35:21 am
You people have ignored those streams, etc. You call them tokens.

Because that's what they are to you. You're happy pointing at a handful of POC who support your cause, but tens of thousands of predominately Black people protest peacefully, you call them violent rioters and compare the movements leaders to gang bangers because at heart you're racist p.o.s.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 11:37:48 am
What does "serving notice" mean?  Does that have any legitimacy in court?  Regardless, I don't know of many Towing companies that are participating in the blockade, especially from Otawa.

aside from the 'serving notice' of/within the Emergencies Act, how about this notice being handed out as the waldo writes:

(https://i.imgur.com/4giqSwU.gif)

again, phack around & find out!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:39:39 am
The mandate didn't cost anything, the idiots protesting it did.
Well, that's a cost, and a direct result of the meaningless unscientific mandate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:42:45 am
Because that's what they are to you. You're happy pointing at a handful of POC who support your cause, but tens of thousands of predominately Black people protest peacefully, you call them violent rioters and compare the movements leaders to gang bangers because at heart you're racist p.o.s.
No, that's what they are to you, because there isn't a "sufficient" amount of them to appease you.  Some of them were violent, as in building were burned down etc.  But you ignored and made excuses for it.  You'd never do the same if there were buildings destroyed by the convoy protest.  Never.  You're the racist, insisting that every minority needs to stay on your ideological plantation.  It really is very disgusting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:43:42 am
aside from the 'serving notice' of/within the Emergencies Act, how about this notice being handed out as the waldo writes:

(https://i.imgur.com/4giqSwU.gif)

again, phack around & find out!
It's good to see the police finally doing their job.  In London you can have your car towed if you leave it overnight.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 16, 2022, 11:48:37 am
It's good to see the police finally doing their job. 

such a worm you are! But hey, good on ya for recognizing the influence of the Emergencies Act! Good on ya for accepting the influence of the federal government in providing the Emergencies Act tools! Good on ya for accepting PM Trudeau/government's influence in going where Provincial Premiers refused to go! Good on ya!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 11:51:16 am
such a worm you are! But hey, good on ya for recognizing the influence of the Emergencies Act! Good on ya for accepting the influence of the federal government in providing the Emergencies Act tools! Good on ya for accepting PM Trudeau/government's influence in going where Provincial Premiers refused to go! Good on ya!
Sorry dude, they didn't need the Emergencies Act to tow/impound vehicles.  You're being ridiculous.  I guess we can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 11:55:38 am
No, that's what they are to you, because there isn't a "sufficient" amount of them to appease you. 

Incoherent.

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Some of them were violent, as in building were burned down etc.

And you blamed the whole movement for it and compared the leaders to TV gangbangers because they're Black. Don't pretend otherwise.

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But you ignored and made excuses for it. You'd never do the same if there were buildings destroyed by the convoy protest.  Never. 

You would, though, that's the point. Just yesterday you were making excuses for a bunch of people arrested for conspiring to kill police officers.
That's why your constant, irritating whining about double standards doesn't stick. We all know you have 'em too, only you're too much of a coward to own it.

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You're the racist, insisting that every minority needs to stay on your ideological plantation.  It really is very disgusting.

LOL ok loser.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 12:29:51 pm
This whole "freedom" movement is attracting some deeply damaged and disturbed individuals.

Canada’s ‘Freedom Convoy’ protesters block 2 more bridges to the U.S. in defiance of Trudeau’s new Emergencies Act powers (https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/canada-freedom-convoy-protesters-block-2-more-bridges-to-us-justin-trudeau-new-emergencies-act-powers/)

Looking at this guy, specifically:

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“I’m risking everything I have,” said Jake Klassen, 39, who has been a truck driver for nearly two decades and drives three weeks of the month hauling loads to the U.S. as an owner-operator. “I want to be able to have my own choice.”

Klassen has two campers and his black semi trailer at the Emerson blockade. They could potentially be seized; Klassen described Trudeau’s move to invoke emergency powers as a “scare tactic” so “they can take everything from us,” he said.

Klassen said he hasn’t been able to visit his nine-year-old daughter in months. She is receiving palliative care at St. Amant, a care residence in Winnipeg, but due to restrictions that require visitors to be fully vaccinated, Klassen and his wife can’t see her.

As a parent, I can't imagine what kind of psycho freak would rather let their child die alone than get a simple, safe vaccine. Makes me sick.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 12:36:56 pm
Incoherent.

And you blamed the whole movement for it and compared the leaders to TV gangbangers because they're Black. Don't pretend otherwise.

You would, though, that's the point. Just yesterday you were making excuses for a bunch of people arrested for conspiring to kill police officers.
That's why your constant, irritating whining about double standards doesn't stick. We all know you have 'em too, only you're too much of a coward to own it.

LOL ok loser.
It's completely coherent.  Regardless, I didn't compare leaders to TV gangbangers because of their race, I just followed your racist lead.  You can't stand a taste of your own racist medicine.  Only you are allowed to prejudge people right?  Only you are allowed to cast aspersions based on their looks/race/ethnicity right? 
Nobody was arrested for conspiring to kill police officers.  You're deranged, and in desperate need of professional help.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 12:38:22 pm
This whole "freedom" movement is attracting some deeply damaged and disturbed individuals.

Canada’s ‘Freedom Convoy’ protesters block 2 more bridges to the U.S. in defiance of Trudeau’s new Emergencies Act powers (https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/canada-freedom-convoy-protesters-block-2-more-bridges-to-us-justin-trudeau-new-emergencies-act-powers/)

Looking at this guy, specifically:

As a parent, I can't imagine what kind of psycho freak would rather let their child die alone than get a simple, safe vaccine. Makes me sick.
I can't imagine either, it must really mean something to him, not just a superficial decision.  However, you shouldn't spread vaccine misinformation.  There are risks to taking the vaccine, small ones, but still risks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 12:46:17 pm
It's completely coherent.  Regardless, I didn't compare leaders to TV gangbangers because of their race, I just followed your racist lead.  You can't stand a taste of your own racist medicine.  Only you are allowed to prejudge people right? Only you are allowed to cast aspersions based on their looks/race/ethnicity right?

Conflating making fun of people's looks/dress with racism is deeply retarded even for you.

FTR here's what the BLM leaders who you said reminded you of the Wire or Boyz in Tha Hood look like:

(https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/202055/rs_1200x1200-200605172710-1200-4-alicia-garza-patrisse-cullors-and-opal-tometi.jpg?fit=around%7C700:700&output-quality=90&crop=700:700;center,top)

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Nobody was arrested for conspiring to kill police officers.  You're deranged, and in desperate need of professional help.

Uh huh.

4 Alberta border protesters charged with conspiring to murder RCMP officers
 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-charges-laid-court-appearance-bail-1.6352482)

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Seven of the protesters arrested in connection with a blockade at the Coutts, Alta., border crossing have been granted bail but those accused of conspiring to murder RCMP officers remain behind bars.
...
In a news conference late Tuesday afternoon, RCMP confirmed the conspiracy charge related to allegations the four were planning to kill officers.

"I can tell you that it was toward RCMP members," said RCMP Chief Supt. Trevor Daroux.

"We worked very closely with our Crown in ensuring we had the evidence going forward to lay the charge and put it before the courts."

Anything else, dipshit?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 12:48:54 pm
I can't imagine either, it must really mean something to him, not just a superficial decision. 

If it means more to him than his own child, he's a deluded loser and I hope he suffers for it.

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However, you shouldn't spread vaccine misinformation.  There are risks to taking the vaccine, small ones, but still risks.

"Safe" doesn't mean "perfect."

Seatbelts and airbags are safe but you can still die in a car accident.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 12:53:34 pm
Conflating making fun of people's looks/dress with racism is deeply retarded even for you.
Then why'd you do it first?

4 Alberta border protesters charged with conspiring to murder RCMP officers
 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-charges-laid-court-appearance-bail-1.6352482)

Anything else, dipshit?
*golf clap*  Wow, you finally said something that was truthful.  Let me guess, this means that the whole protest is/are conspirators right?  Is that what you're getting at?  You've been bad appling since the beginning.  I've already pointed out your double standard several times.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 16, 2022, 12:59:58 pm
LOL![attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 16, 2022, 01:11:52 pm
Then why'd you do it first?

You need to work on your reading comprehension, it's pretty bad.

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*golf clap*  Wow, you finally said something that was truthful.

I'm surprised you even understand the concept of truth since your track record of lies and distortions is very well documented. But good for you to acknowledge reality even if you still can't help deflecting from it.

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Let me guess, this means that the whole protest is/are conspirators right?  Is that what you're getting at?  You've been bad appling since the beginning.  I've already pointed out your double standard several times.

Do you know what the phrase "bad apples" actually means? Regardless, and I'm saying this even though I know it won't stop your bad faith nonsense, I don't think all the convoy protesters are violent thugs, or racists or conspiracy nuts, but that violent thugs, racists and conspiracy nuts are being drawn to this movement like flies to cowshit. The rest of them, like that guy who would rather his daughter die alone than get a vaccine, are sad deluded morons.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 16, 2022, 03:05:24 pm
I can't imagine either, it must really mean something to him, not just a superficial decision.  However, you shouldn't spread vaccine misinformation.  There are risks to taking the vaccine, small ones, but still risks.
More like the kid doesn't mean much to him, but you guys will go to incredible lengths to feed your victimhood fetish
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 10:38:56 am
I think this dude (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/su0n9y/ontario_man_snaps_and_roasts_every_single_person/) speaks for the majority of Canadians who are sick and tired of these convoy assclowns. Not the hero we asked for, but the hero we need.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 10:44:21 am
I think this dude (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/su0n9y/ontario_man_snaps_and_roasts_every_single_person/) speaks for the majority of Canadians who are sick and tired of these convoy assclowns. Not the hero we asked for, but the hero we need.
Good.  Some of us are sick and tired of the unscientific and unconstitutional government vaccine mandates.  Get in line.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2022, 02:17:28 pm
yup, phack around & find out! Princess Lich says she's going to the slammer... and she's ok with it... and, and... she's not afraid! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1494153096754249731/pu/vid/886x490/1osLll8ze9NW7aW_.mp4?tag=12)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2022, 02:42:45 pm
alt-Right white supremacist Pat King says he's not 'walkin' away from this (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1494071571044048896/pu/vid/720x1280/pLqKaIVpsY2v8M-A.mp4?tag=12)... but as he's a self-proclaimed investigative journalist, he's got some investigatin' to do in New Brunswick! Again, not walkin' away, says freedumFighter Pat!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 02:47:16 pm
alt-Right white supremacist Pat King says he's not 'walkin' away from this (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1494071571044048896/pu/vid/720x1280/pLqKaIVpsY2v8M-A.mp4?tag=12)... but as he's a self-proclaimed investigative journalist, he's got some investigatin' to do in New Brunswick! Again, not walkin' away, says freedumFighter Pat!

(https://c.tenor.com/bhZlwrFft58AAAAC/suck-yousuck.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 17, 2022, 02:55:08 pm
yup, phack around & find out! Princess Lich says she's going to the slammer... and she's ok with it... and, and... she's not afraid! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1494153096754249731/pu/vid/886x490/1osLll8ze9NW7aW_.mp4?tag=12)

Pat King didn't save her huh ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 03:31:48 pm
Interesting stuff in here (https://globalnews.ca/news/8621733/coutts-blockaders-discussed-blocking-airport-cargo-terminals-private-threat-assessment/) about the Coutts blockade.

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Critically, the assessment concluded that the blockade, which began under the auspices of protesting COVID-19 public health measures, had become more concerned with “replacing our current democratic system of government with a government that is based upon the principles of the Christian right.

"It's a working class movement, honest!"

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It was well supported and funded both by local people and by wealthy farmers, ranchers and by trucking and construction-company owners from across the province who were participating in a “proxy protest” by providing farm equipment, trucks and heavy equipment to block Highway 4, a key trade route between the U.S. and Alberta, the assessment stated.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2022, 03:37:43 pm
I just watched Trudeau lie in Parliament.  He said they not aren't using the Emergency Act to stifle people's freedom to assembly but the police in Ottawa are putting up a blockade checkpoint perimeter around the downtown core using the powers of the Emergency Act.

And they are doing this because they simply refuse to use force to arrest them.  Only thing that should prevent that is fear of them using their kids as human shields/hostages.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 03:38:14 pm
Interesting stuff in here (https://globalnews.ca/news/8621733/coutts-blockaders-discussed-blocking-airport-cargo-terminals-private-threat-assessment/) about the Coutts blockade.

"It's a working class movement, honest!"
Sounds similar to the BLM protesters that wanted to dismantle capitalism and the nuclear family.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 03:38:45 pm
Sounds similar to the BLM protesters that wanted to dismantle capitalism and the nuclear family.

whataboutwhataboutwhatabout

(dismantling capitalism is good btw)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 03:39:35 pm
I just watched Trudeau lie in Parliament.  He said they not aren't using the Emergency Act to stifle people's freedom to assembly but the police in Ottawa are putting up a blockade checkpoint perimeter around the downtown core using the powers of the Emergency Act.

And they are doing this because they simply refuse to use force to arrest them.  Only thing that should prevent that is fear of them using their kids as human shields/hostages.
Trudeau is probably going to go down in history as the worst PM Canada has ever had.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 03:41:34 pm
I just watched Trudeau lie in Parliament.  He said they not aren't using the Emergency Act to stifle people's freedom to assembly but the police in Ottawa are putting up a blockade checkpoint perimeter around the downtown core using the powers of the Emergency Act.

Riots and gatherings that seriously disturb the peace are not protected under the freedom of assembly provisions of the Charter.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 03:45:25 pm
Riots and gatherings that seriously disturb the peace are not protected under the freedom of assembly provisions of the Charter.
Where did you get your law degree?  A crackerjack box?  What’s seriously mean?  Is that in the law somewhere? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 03:56:00 pm
Where did you get your law degree?  A crackerjack box?  What’s seriously mean?  Is that in the law somewhere?

Are you seriously questioning the idea that there's such a thing as an unlawful assembly? Good lord.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2022, 04:12:42 pm
A certain dumbass here has been saying that the protest would end if only Trudeau ended the vaccine mandate for truckers. Turns out that's not the case as the convoy organizers have released an "open letter (https://twitter.com/BJdichter/status/1494368034475159555?s=20&t=PvTVUb61o5JOfyy7eivdWw)" that demands an end to all vaccine mandates (federal, provicnial and municipal) and all mask mandates as well. Turns out the smart dude who said that it wasn't about the trucker mandate at all was right all along!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2022, 05:23:04 pm
Riots and gatherings that seriously disturb the peace are not protected under the freedom of assembly provisions of the Charter.

Right that's why you arrest them instead of giving yourself emergency powers to violate people's rights.  All they have to do is enforce the law.

But they're afraid of causing a scene, with the world's camera's on them.  All the politicians have been passing the buck because they're afraid of making the tough call.  Great leadership.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 17, 2022, 05:45:10 pm
Arrest them instead of giving yourself additional powers to be able to arrest them? 🤔
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 05:46:42 pm
Arrest them instead of giving yourself additional powers to be able to arrest them? 🤔
They didn’t need emergency powers to arrest them.  That’s what you don’t seem to understand for some reason.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2022, 06:00:56 pm
Arrest them instead of giving yourself additional powers to be able to arrest them? 🤔

Why do they need emergency powers to arrest them?  Just go arrest them.  If I were parked in the middle of the street with my kid in the backseat and I wouldn't move I would be arrested.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 06:28:24 pm
Mainstream media outlets are using hacked information to contact convoy protest donors!  Holy **** this is getting scary!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2022, 06:44:19 pm
...hacked information

speaking of: Hacked convoy data shows more than half of donations came from U.S. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-donations-data-1.6351292)

hey now! The waldo now gets why CPC MP for Thornhill Ontario, Melissa Lantsman, went on Fox News (Laura Ingraham)... more likely to reach those American donors!
(https://i.imgur.com/ru9NvBd.gif) 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 07:30:48 pm
speaking of: Hacked convoy data shows more than half of donations came from U.S. (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-donations-data-1.6351292)

hey now! The waldo now gets why CPC MP for Thornhill Ontario, Melissa Lantsman, went on Fox News (Laura Ingraham)... more likely to reach those American donors!
(https://i.imgur.com/ru9NvBd.gif)
So almost half of the donations are Canadian correct?  What’s your point?  Other than being a mouthpiece for authoritarianism and a proponent of the media using illegally obtained information to go after legal donors?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 07:53:03 pm
Apparently one of the organizers has been arrested.   Police won’t say why.  What country are we living in?  Holy ****!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2022, 08:08:59 pm
Apparently one of the organizers has been arrested.   Police won’t say why.  What country are we living in?  Holy ****!

Aiding and abetting criminals to commit crimes?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 08:12:21 pm
Aiding and abetting criminals to commit crimes?
No reason has been given.  Apparently they’re expected to be charged with something, but haven’t been yet.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 08:31:21 pm
Priorities!

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2022, 08:57:40 pm
The **** show continues! Bwaaahaaahaaa!

Former Waterloo police chief hired as Ottawa chief withdraws
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/mobile/former-waterloo-police-chief-hired-as-ottawa-chief-withdraws-1.5785587?fbclid=IwAR309K1PJ414sEYZumS87gLxtFzQQe54tPKZbFRK5ia0ndsWUgNysEx-Hb0
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 17, 2022, 10:42:53 pm
Mainstream media outlets are using hacked information to contact convoy protest donors!  Holy **** this is getting scary!
You've posted tons of information supposedly hacked from Hunter Biden, even though we all knew it was just a Russian misinformation scam. Was that scary too?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 17, 2022, 11:26:42 pm
Priorities!

(Attachment Link)
Wrong country.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2022, 11:32:29 pm
arrested earlier today was CPC leader Candice Bergen's dinner pal, freedum convoy organizer & white nationalist, Chris Barber

(https://i.imgur.com/i3jtpeW.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2022, 11:41:32 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/SVNEiRG.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2022, 12:13:05 am
David Frum - Canadian-American political commentator; currently a senior editor at The Atlantic as well as an MSNBC contributor:

thread unroll:

(https://i.imgur.com/9LpLyej.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 12:15:20 am
We is gonna threaten to steal your property and loved ones:

https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494306645274509316?cxt=HHwWiIC-kcH-67wpAAAA
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 04:54:15 am
David Frum - Canadian-American political commentator; currently a senior editor at The Atlantic as well as an MSNBC contributor:

thread unroll:

(https://i.imgur.com/9LpLyej.gif)
Did Frum ever find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?  😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 04:55:27 am
We is gonna threaten to steal your property and loved ones:

https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494306645274509316?cxt=HHwWiIC-kcH-67wpAAAA
The buffoonish thuggery resorted to by law enforcement is quite astonishing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 04:56:29 am
Wrong country.
You seemed to have missed the point.  No surprise.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 04:59:24 am
You've posted tons of information supposedly hacked from Hunter Biden, even though we all knew it was just a Russian misinformation scam. Was that scary too?
What did I post?  I’m equivalent to the Washington Post!  Thanks man!  I knew I was doing good work, but it’s nice to be appreciated.  Regardless it wasn’t misinformation, that’s the reason fascists used to block the story during the election, but later admitted that the story is real.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 05:41:13 am
Did Frum ever find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?  😂
Did you ever admit you were wrong on that? Pretty significant error. Should have listened to me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 05:43:50 am
What did I post?  I’m equivalent to the Washington Post!  Thanks man!  I knew I was doing good work, but it’s nice to be appreciated.  Regardless it wasn’t misinformation, that’s the reason fascists used to block the story during the election, but later admitted that the story is real.
It was total BS and you knew it then and know it now. But the Wapo has the integrity to correct their errors.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 08:23:31 am
It was total BS and you knew it then and know it now. But the Wapo has the integrity to correct their errors.
What was total BS?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 08:24:31 am
Did you ever admit you were wrong on that? Pretty significant error. Should have listened to me.
I learned from it but you people haven’t.  You’re still supporting endless foreign wars for some reason.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 08:33:19 am
I learned from it but you people haven’t.  You’re still supporting endless foreign wars for some reason.
I never supported those wars. I was the one telling you you were being lied to  You are always eventually forced to admit I was right (see also gay marriage, weed decriminalization, Trump).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 08:51:15 am
I never supported those wars. I was the one telling you you were being lied to  You are always eventually forced to admit I was right (see also gay marriage, weed decriminalization, Trump).
Are you kidding, after Iraq you were gung ho for Obama’s Libya war, you criticized Trump for not getting involved in Syria and not wanting war with Russia.  You’re a neocon now, all of you are.  It’s absurd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 09:06:10 am
Are you kidding, after Iraq you were gung ho for Obama’s Libya war, you criticized Trump for not getting involved in Syria and not wanting war with Russia.  You’re a neocon now, all of you are.  It’s absurd.
You don't feel a little pathetic when you have to lie to save face or generate a counter-argument? Do you really think you're fooling anyone?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 09:21:23 am
You don't feel a little pathetic when you have to lie to save face or generate a counter-argument? Do you really think you're fooling anyone?
Why do you want troops sent to Ukraine?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 10:00:49 am
Why do you want troops sent to Ukraine?
I believe in a diplomatic solution in Ukraine. What are Putin's talking points for your position?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 10:12:03 am
Mainstream media outlets are using hacked information to contact convoy protest donors!  Holy **** this is getting scary!

Oh look more lies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 10:13:59 am
Oh look more lies.
It’s not a lie.  Stop making excuses for it.  It’s disgusting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 10:18:31 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 10:20:50 am
We is gonna threaten to steal your property and loved ones:

https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494306645274509316?cxt=HHwWiIC-kcH-67wpAAAA

If someone is arrested do you think they should be able to take their dog to jail with them?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 10:21:07 am
It’s not a lie.  Stop making excuses for it.  It’s disgusting.

Prove it then, liar.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 18, 2022, 10:23:20 am
Did Frum ever find those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?  😂
No, but the answer seems to depend more on who's asking and the context of the discussion in which its asked. I asked a righty a similar question about Colin Powell in a discussion about evidence and the answer was yes they did find WMD's.

This whole business of comparing things, events and people is almost always s pointless exercise.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 10:25:20 am
They didn’t need emergency powers to arrest them.  That’s what you don’t seem to understand for some reason.

According to you, they can't arrest them because there's no such thing as an unlawful assembly.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 10:34:00 am
Prove it then, liar.
You should really be more curious about things.  Also, I don't accept your apology.

Using Hacked Data, Washington Post, Reuters Go After Doxxed Freedom Convoy Donors
https://www.mediaite.com/news/using-hacked-data-washington-post-reuters-go-after-doxxed-freedom-convoy-donors/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 10:51:15 am
You should really be more curious about things.  Also, I don't accept your apology.

Using Hacked Data, Washington Post, Reuters Go After Doxxed Freedom Convoy Donors
https://www.mediaite.com/news/using-hacked-data-washington-post-reuters-go-after-doxxed-freedom-convoy-donors/

maybe people would be more inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt if you would simply provide link to your claims in the first place. Oh and also if you didn't lie so much all the time.

Anyhoo, that WaPo email looks fake a.f.  Then there's this. (https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1494134353814867972?s=20&t=1Du9Nvnb2ulu45q0pyJolw)

Overall, though I don't think media should be using this info to go after small time donors, but the fact there's so much big money coming here from the States is definitely a legit story.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 11:01:05 am
You guys are sick f**ks.

https://youtu.be/OMpLDUHzSjg
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 11:20:43 am
"Never in my 56 years have I ever experienced a country so divided, so full of hatred towards friends and neighbors," she said.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 11:21:54 am
This is our Canada now, thanks to Branch Covidians.  All because they can’t respect people’s fundamental rights and personal decisions involving their own health care:
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 11:22:01 am
You guys are sick f**ks.

https://youtu.be/OMpLDUHzSjg

Hmm, yes do tell. (https://twitter.com/MooShuIceCream/status/1489736932758282240?s=20&t=F3-QAm8km68grQXCHgTnqA)

Also FOX News? Why not Stormfront?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 11:25:54 am
This is our Canada now, thanks to Branch Covidians.  All because they can’t respect people’s fundamental rights and personal decisions involving their own health care:

You haven't said a word about anti-maskers harassing and physically assaulting people throughout this pandemic so shove your faux victimhood up your ass.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 11:28:07 am
If someone is arrested do you think they should be able to take their dog to jail with them?

Do you think they should be able to steal their pets as their property and put them down?

Before you answer imagine these were indigenous or blm protestors.   You know, use empathy n stuff.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 11:33:54 am
Do you think they should be able to steal their pets as their property and put them down?

Before you answer imagine these were indigenous or blm protestors.   You know, use empathy n stuff.

You didn't answer my question so i'll ask it again: if someone gets arrested, what are authorities supposed to do with their pets? Turn them loose in the streets?

Also where tf are you getting this "put them down" stuff? You don't need to make **** up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 11:36:59 am
Hmm, yes do tell. (https://twitter.com/MooShuIceCream/status/1489736932758282240?s=20&t=F3-QAm8km68grQXCHgTnqA)

Also FOX News? Why not Stormfront?
LOL, Fox News is Stormfront?  Hang on, I have something for you.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 11:41:47 am
LOL, Fox News is Stormfront?  Hang on, I have something for you.

It's white nationalist propaganda so no surprise you're a fan.

I love how the host (who sounds like he's doped up on Xanax) in the video states "government forces are even going after innocent gelato shops" when the government isn't doing anything. Pure uncut propaganda for stupes like you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2022, 12:00:46 pm
whaaa! Pat King arrested - FB livestreamed! (https://www.facebook.com/therealpatking/videos/681146579910843/) Praise Jebus!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2022, 12:10:51 pm
the waldo is quite disappointed with teevee coverage... no pictures yet of Bergen, Poilievre, Scheer, Gladu, Lantsman, Cooper, Batters, Waugh, Bernier, Hillier, etc., holding the line! Hold it damnit - hold it!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 18, 2022, 01:02:48 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1494718932212662284

Truckers are using children as a shield.  F*cking cowards. 

Oh, and as fuel-packing mules. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL5RiMwXsAY-b4A?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 01:46:37 pm
It's white nationalist propaganda so no surprise you're a fan.

I love how the host (who sounds like he's doped up on Xanax) in the video states "government forces are even going after innocent gelato shops" when the government isn't doing anything. Pure uncut propaganda for stupes like you.
Yes, interviewing an actual business owner from Ottawa is white nationalist propaganda.  You're legit a clown.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 01:51:44 pm
Yes, interviewing an actual business owner from Ottawa is white nationalist propaganda.  You're legit a clown.

Classic bad faith idiocy. You can't address the points so you make up some strawman.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 02:00:03 pm
You didn't answer my question so i'll ask it again: if someone gets arrested, what are authorities supposed to do with their pets? Turn them loose in the streets?

Also where tf are you getting this "put them down" stuff? You don't need to make **** up.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 02:01:39 pm
Classic bad faith idiocy. You can't address the points so you make up some strawman.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:02:13 pm
You’re a sub human being if you support this kind of stuff. (Attachment Link)

Yeah they should just leave the dogs in the trucks while their owners are in jail, that would be the humane thing to do. Retard.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:02:52 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1494718932212662284

Truckers are using children as a shield.  F*cking cowards. 

Oh, and as fuel-packing mules. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FL5RiMwXsAY-b4A?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Here's video (https://twitter.com/EtienneFG/status/1494721989793222660?s=20&t=ckfVrsg7lysVU77UjsIT3A).

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 02:15:06 pm
Yeah they should just leave the dogs in the trucks while their owners are in jail, that would be the humane thing to do. Retard.
That’s not how it’s ever worked.  Keep dividing Canada, causing hate etc, just because somebody doesn’t want to take medicine that you think they should.  This is all insanity caused by you and your fellow piece of **** fascists in this country.  Enough is enough already.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 18, 2022, 02:18:15 pm
We is gonna threaten to steal your property and loved ones:

https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494306645274509316?cxt=HHwWiIC-kcH-67wpAAAA

So should they just turn your dog loose to fend for itself if you get arrested? It was their choice to bring animals and kids.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:24:13 pm
That’s not how it’s ever worked.

Answer the question: if someone is arrested and jailed while they have a dog with them, what should the police do? Let the animal go loose? Shoot it on the spot?

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Keep dividing Canada, causing hate etc, just because somebody doesn’t want to take medicine that you think they should.  This is all insanity caused by you and your fellow piece of **** fascists in this country.  Enough is enough already.

(https://img.ifunny.co/images/56574066fafd022add2db8c218187293baf7782e17710c66c21075378c3f485f_1.webp)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:36:18 pm
So should they just turn your dog loose to fend for itself if you get arrested? It was their choice to bring animals and kids.

It sounds like one of the Sovereign Citizen ploys: "Under the Very Good Boys provision of the Magna Carta and the, uh, Treaty of Ghent, the state may not act against a citizen in possession of any canine, feline, rodent, reptile or other designated pet/companion."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 02:41:54 pm
Answer the question: if someone is arrested and jailed while they have a dog with them, what should the police do? Let the animal go loose? Shoot it on the spot? Hmmm

(https://img.ifunny.co/images/56574066fafd022add2db8c218187293baf7782e17710c66c21075378c3f485f_1.webp)
How about bring it to a shelter, which used to be standard procedure.  You fascists need to get the hell out of Canada.  You’re not compatible with a free society.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 18, 2022, 02:45:07 pm
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How about bring it to a shelter

Explain the difference between where the dogs are going and what you call a “shelter”.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:54:25 pm
How about bring it to a shelter, which used to be standard procedure. 

Where do you think they are taking the animals, some kind of special Doggy Gulag for reeducation?

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You fascists need to get the hell out of Canada.  You’re not compatible with a free society.

OK spaz.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 02:57:42 pm
Imagine getting so worked up about something like that without doing the bare minimum of research. Just the dumbest people.

"The Animal Care and Control By-law provides for temporary “protective care” by the City of animals in the event that the owner is not available, under circumstances including eviction, incarceration, or fire or medical emergency." (https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494396657915641856?s=20&t=6G11liSVBf2_S4XozE753w)

 the animal is kept at our municipal shelter, the owner simply needs to make arrangements to have their animal picked up, or extend their stay while they settle their situation. (https://twitter.com/OttawaBylaw/status/1494645550758694941?s=20&t=6G11liSVBf2_S4XozE753w)

Adding this one to my running tally of Shady's Greatest (S)hits.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 18, 2022, 03:10:36 pm
Explain the difference between where the dogs are going and what you call a “shelter”.

Shady's mom told him once that his pet Rusty had gone to a farm out of town where he could run and play with the other dogs and he's been looking for it ever since.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 04:53:06 pm
A lot of these leftover protestors are morons (also criminals).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 18, 2022, 04:57:18 pm
A lot of these leftover protestors are morons (also criminals).

But you support their cause, don’t you?  You think vaccine mandates are the state use of force against bodily autonomy. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 04:59:09 pm
But you support their cause, don’t you?  You think vaccine mandates are the state use of force against bodily autonomy.

Basically.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 05:02:24 pm
This thread is an abortion.  A legal abortion, but an abortion nonetheless.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2022, 05:06:01 pm
Early or late term?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 18, 2022, 05:15:57 pm
Basically.

If one has the view that the government is violating the bodily autonomy of Canadians, isn’t a blockade like this completely justified?  In fact, wouldn’t violence be justified? 

What is a blockade compared to government mandated human rights violations?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 05:16:21 pm
I liked that they involved the Emergencies Act, and then just started arresting the truckers parked illegally etc.  What am I missing here?  Why didn't they start arresting these criminals 2-3 weeks ago?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 05:19:24 pm
If one has the view that the government is violating the bodily autonomy of Canadians, isn’t a blockade like this completely justified?  In fact, wouldn’t violence be justified? 

What is a blockade compared to government mandated human rights violations?

Well you should at the very least first exhaust all legal and democratic means of protest, including the courts.  Taking a tantrum in the street and violating the law doing so, or committing violence, isn't legal or democratic and should be a very last resort.  But most of these truckers don't seem to care about that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 18, 2022, 05:29:26 pm
Well you should at the very least first exhaust all legal and democratic means of protest, including the courts.  Taking a tantrum in the street and violating the law doing so, or committing violence, isn't legal or democratic and should be a very last resort.  But most of these truckers don't seem to care about that.

You claim this is a human rights violation, and a violation of Canadian bodily autonomy and then say it needs to go through the courts. 

It has gone through the courts, and the courts have clearly said the mandates are legal and this is not a human rights or bodily autonomy violation. 

Your stance is completely incoherent. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2022, 06:11:52 pm
You claim this is a human rights violation, and a violation of Canadian bodily autonomy and then say it needs to go through the courts. 

It has gone through the courts, and the courts have clearly said the mandates are legal and this is not a human rights or bodily autonomy violation. 

Your stance is completely incoherent.

If its gone to the courts then ok fine.  Democracy rules then.  I still don't personally support violence or criminal activity or overthrowing the government, at least not in this case.  I'm already vaccinated.

I still disagree with the courts if they've ruled in favour of mandates.  But since we live in a democratic society, we may not agree with all the laws but we're still supposed to obey them.  That's the social contract.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 06:18:47 pm
Canada is a broken country.  Covid insanity has completely broken us.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 09:32:20 pm
Police on horseback trample an elderly woman at the protest.  This is Canada now.

https://www.facebook.com/537586469/posts/10158223700906470/?d=n
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2022, 09:33:31 pm
If its gone to the courts then ok fine.  Democracy rules then.  I still don't personally support violence or criminal activity or overthrowing the government, at least not in this case.  I'm already vaccinated.

I still disagree with the courts if they've ruled in favour of mandates.  But since we live in a democratic society, we may not agree with all the laws but we're still supposed to obey them.  That's the social contract.
So is peaceful protest when a government infringes on people’s fundamental rights.  Women wouldn’t have the right to vote if it weren’t for peaceful protests and civil disobedience.  Blacks would still be slaves etc.  We have a duty to protest unjust laws.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 18, 2022, 09:56:36 pm
So is peaceful protest when a government infringes on people’s fundamental rights.  Women wouldn’t have the right to vote if it weren’t for peaceful protests and civil disobedience.  Blacks would still be slaves etc.  We have a duty to protest unjust laws.

It isn't  peaceful when you are holding neighbourhoods and borders hostage.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 19, 2022, 05:26:18 am
Is Pat King a pathological liar?

You can read this thread and try to explain to me what this is he is saying...

https://twitter.com/DiamondDaibhidJ/status/1494791654162763778?t=j2J5Cgs4nI5HBWorJwPoRQ&s=19
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2022, 06:19:01 am
Candice Bergen <=> Murphy Brownshirt
(https://c.tenor.com/f9ifxTjrsTwAAAAi/chef-kiss.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2022, 06:38:39 am
(https://i.imgur.com/PtXoKOF.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 11:06:25 am
Candice Bergen <=> Murphy Brownshirt
(https://c.tenor.com/f9ifxTjrsTwAAAAi/chef-kiss.gif)
The irony of a modern day fascist calling somebody else a brownshirt for supporting freedom is tremendous.  The lengths that you fascists will go to, to force people to take medicine they don’t want is criminal.  You should leave Canada.  Your views aren’t compatible with a free society.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 11:08:02 am
It isn't  peaceful when you are holding neighbourhoods and borders hostage.
Actually it is.  You don’t understand the meaning of peaceful apparently.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 11:11:17 am
I think we know why Ottawa went through a few different police chiefs over the last week.  They couldn’t find anyone who would give the order for this kind of misconduct.  It took them a few tries before they found a fellow fascist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 19, 2022, 12:19:32 pm
So are we all onboard with defunding the police now? :lol:
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 01:36:19 pm
So are we all onboard with defunding the police now? :lol:
Um, no, that’s still a complete disaster.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 01:44:14 pm
Actually it is.  You don’t understand the meaning of peaceful apparently.

I do understand. Just because you aren't using physical violence doesn't make you peaceful.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 19, 2022, 01:57:11 pm
Um, no, that’s still a complete disaster.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 19, 2022, 02:02:03 pm
I think we know why Ottawa went through a few different police chiefs over the last week.  They couldn’t find anyone who would give the order for this kind of misconduct.  It took them a few tries before they found a fellow fascist.

You think the chief ordered that horse to run over that old lady, specifically?

I don't see any tear gas, no rubber bullets, no cops charging into the crowd swinging batons, no mass arrests, none of the stuff your ilk cheered on when it's used against peaceful protests or homeless encampments, but one old lady gets accidentally knocked down by a horse and you become completely unhinged. It's effing hilarious.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 02:07:07 pm
So are we all onboard with defunding the police now? :lol:

Definitely defund those stupid horse units.  They were trampling people during the Floyd protests too.

The cops also let them crap in the street and don't clean it up even when they're just walking through the streets practicing.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 03:05:08 pm
Definitely defund those stupid horse units.  They were trampling people during the Floyd protests too.

The cops also let them crap in the street and don't clean it up even when they're just walking through the streets practicing.

Nope, they are great PR in places like city parks, people love them. Very effective in riots too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 04:42:56 pm
Nope, they are great PR in places like city parks, people love them. Very effective in riots too.

They're "effective" because they can trample people.  People are intimidated by them because they are big, powerful, dangerous, and at times unpredictable. If police can't control them around crowds of people they are a public safety issue and need to be eliminated, or the officers/forces responsible sued.  I hope these officers are sued and the city pays dearly.

PR isn't a reason to keep them if they hurt people who don't deserve to be hurt.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 19, 2022, 04:57:16 pm
They're "effective" because they can trample people.  People are intimidated by them because they are big, powerful, dangerous, and at times unpredictable. If police can't control them around crowds of people they are a public safety issue and need to be eliminated, or the officers/forces responsible sued.  I hope these officers are sued and the city pays dearly.

PR isn't a reason to keep them if they hurt people who don't deserve to be hurt.

So police should only use ineffective means to break up riots and blockades? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 05:07:03 pm
They're "effective" because they can trample people.  People are intimidated by them because they are big, powerful, dangerous, and at times unpredictable. If police can't control them around crowds of people they are a public safety issue and need to be eliminated, or the officers/forces responsible sued.  I hope these officers are sued and the city pays dearly.

PR isn't a reason to keep them if they hurt people who don't deserve to be hurt.

They have been told this would happen about 1000 times over the last few days if they don't leave. They can still leave. They aren't victims, they are law breakers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 05:32:29 pm
They have been told this would happen about 1000 times over the last few days if they don't leave. They can still leave. They aren't victims, they are law breakers.

The people on foot just peacefully protesting are law breakers?  Maybe only under an emergencies act.

That person who got trampled didn't seem to be doing anything wrong.

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1494808224008179714
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 05:59:11 pm
They have been told this would happen about 1000 times over the last few days if they don't leave. They can still leave. They aren't victims, they are law breakers.
So you can’t even hold a sign and protest on foot without a truck?  What country are we living in? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 06:07:15 pm
The people on foot just peacefully protesting are law breakers?  Maybe only under an emergencies act.

That person who got trampled didn't seem to be doing anything wrong.

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1494808224008179714

They have broken a long list of bylaws and others over the past three weeks.
They have been arrested and towed under the act but the Charter of Rights is still in effect.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 06:10:37 pm
So you can’t even hold a sign and protest on foot without a truck?  What country are we living in?

Well they didn't did they. They plugged the area with trucks, leaned on their horns all hours of the day, stunk up the neighbourhood with diesel fumes, forced businesses to close and cost people their jobs for three weeks. They had their fun now f**k off.

Stupid pricks are still  jamming 911 lines
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 06:20:35 pm
They have broken a long list of bylaws and others over the past three weeks.
They have been arrested and towed under the act but the Charter of Rights is still in effect.

Groups of people with no affiliation don't break laws, only individuals do.

If someone wants to stand on the public sidewalk in front of Parliament Hill and protest they should be able to.  If someone wants to block the street and won't move they should be arrested.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 06:29:07 pm
Groups of people with no affiliation don't break laws, only individuals do.

If someone wants to stand on the public sidewalk in front of Parliament Hill and protest they should be able to.  If someone wants to block the street and won't move they should be arrested.

The were breaking the law as individuals and will be charged as individuals

They can stand on the sidewalk and protest, it's done all the time. This was about as far from that as you get.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 08:49:27 pm
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 19, 2022, 08:54:29 pm
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll

How much does this matter now ?  Are the Conservatives going to try to make another Convoy ?  No.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 08:57:53 pm
Well they didn't did they. They plugged the area with trucks, leaned on their horns all hours of the day, stunk up the neighbourhood with diesel fumes, forced businesses to close and cost people their jobs for three weeks. They had their fun now f**k off.

Stupid pricks are still  jamming 911 lines
But even people protesting with just signs have been arrested.  And the media has been forbidden to cover the arrests closer than a block away.  How can you support this kind of behaviour in good conscience?  Lol @ forced businesses to close.  Nice gaslighting after being a proponent of multiple months long shutdowns.  You have absolutely no credibility with your selective outrage of business closings.  Don’t worry though, just wait until the weather gets warmer in the spring.  There’ll be tens of thousands of people in Ottawa.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 19, 2022, 08:58:47 pm
How much does this matter now ?  Are the Conservatives going to try to make another Convoy ?  No.
The Conservatives didn’t make this convoy, so I’m not sure where you’re getting another one.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 19, 2022, 09:00:45 pm
How much does this matter now ?  Are the Conservatives going to try to make another Convoy ?  No.

Well apparently 46% of Canadians more or less disagree with the mandates, and the mandates are still policy as far as I know, so it seems relevant.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 19, 2022, 09:17:55 pm
The Conservatives didn’t make this convoy, so I’m not sure where you’re getting another one.

Ok ... do the Conservatives have any sway with The Maverick Party though ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 19, 2022, 10:51:44 pm
Well apparently 46% of Canadians more or less disagree with the mandates, and the mandates are still policy as far as I know, so it seems relevant.
But 71% also say these folks should go home. Most of the mandates are provincial anyway.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2022, 11:17:59 pm
...sympathize with trucker convoy

ya ya, says the polled ignorant, uneducated and freedumb howlers who have no understanding of the issue(s) or what 'downtown' Ottawa residents have had to deal with for the past 3 weeks. Where's the sympathy from protester supporters for the residents harmed? In the real-world, 90% vaccinated truckers continued... continue... to do their jobs supporting the Canadian economy, supporting Canadians and contributing positively to society! A couple of prior images posted that speak to those real-world 90% vaccinated truckers:

(https://i.imgur.com/DzErxNp.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2022, 11:36:38 pm
https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/19/22941291/facebook-canada-trucker-convoy-gofundme-groups-viral-sharing

(https://i.imgur.com/PnOJpA9.gif)

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It’s a shocking split, arguably the single most important factor in the protests, and much of it originates in the fractured way information travels online. Convoy supporters are getting their news from a tangle of Facebook groups, Telegram channels, and random influencers, which is all then amplified and expanded by right-wing broadcasters like Carlson, The Daily Caller, or Canadian right-wing media network Rebel News. These channels promote a sanitized version of movements like the Freedom Convoy, amplifying its hashtags and turning its obscure extremist leaders into celebrities.
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Paris Marx, a PhD candidate based in Canada and host of the podcast Tech Won’t Save Us, told The Verge that the Freedom Convoy’s connections to the country’s far-right significantly outweigh its connections to actual Canadian truckers.

“It’s been pretty well-documented at this point that the Freedom Convoy has had connections to the Canadian far-right from the beginning, including having been behind the initial GoFundMe fundraiser,” he said. “It also never really represented a broad swath of truckers — 90% of whom are vaccinated and whose trade organizations distanced themselves from, if not outright opposed, the convoy.”

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But based on Facebook metrics, the core of the Freedom Convoy was never really anything more than a small collection of local conspiracy theorists who were then suddenly given a megaphone by America’s powerful right-wing disinformation machine. Their campaign was first supercharged by Facebook’s algorithm, which currently favors content shared within local groups, and was then blasted out into every feed and screen possible by ravenous conservative tabloids. American right-wing publisher The Daily Wire, founded by conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, latched on to the story at the end of January and published 66 articles featuring the keyword “convoy” between January 28th and January 31st. And the most popular story of theirs from this time period actually promotes a Facebook group that would eventually get shut down by the platform after barely four days for repeatedly violating Facebook’s policies around QAnon.

Amplifying small right-wing political movements like this has become a powerful piece of the conservative toolkit — particularly in the time of COVID. Case in point, over the last month, Fox News aired over eight hours of programming about the Freedom Convoy, warning that an American version was on its way.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2022, 11:52:31 pm
U.S. Congress asks Facebook: What role did fake overseas accounts have in promoting Canada convoys? (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/congress-convoys-facebook-1.6357381)

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American politicians are demanding details from Facebook about how many fake online accounts created by foreign actors helped promote Canada's convoy protests.

Facebook told NBC News earlier this month that it had deleted some pro-convoy groups run by overseas actors. They did not say how many and from where.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 20, 2022, 06:34:03 am
Vermin
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 12:21:47 pm
U.S. Congress asks Facebook: What role did fake overseas accounts have in promoting Canada convoys? (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/congress-convoys-facebook-1.6357381)
Probably Vladimir Putin right! 😂🤣
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 12:22:23 pm
#BlackfaceHitler is trending on Twitter! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 12:28:40 pm
#BlackfaceHitler is now #1 trending in the world!  Bwaahaaa.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 20, 2022, 12:30:31 pm
Something tells me you aren't as offended by blackface as you pretend to be.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 20, 2022, 12:44:37 pm
U.S. Congress asks Facebook: What role did fake overseas accounts have in promoting Canada convoys? (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/congress-convoys-facebook-1.6357381)

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American politicians are demanding details from Facebook about how many fake online accounts created by foreign actors helped promote Canada's convoy protests.

Facebook told NBC News earlier this month that it had deleted some pro-convoy groups run by overseas actors. They did not say how many and from where.

Probably Vladimir Putin right! 😂🤣

yours is such a casual ignoring dismissal of the purposeful manipulating & misinformation tactics followed by Facebook groups, Telegram channels, and random influencers in their promotion of the freedumbConvoy... all of which was then further amplified and expanded by your favoured cadre of right-wing & alt-right "personalities" - you know, your peeps!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 20, 2022, 12:50:14 pm
Something tells me you aren't as offended by blackface as you pretend to be.

or the nazi imagery he claims to be so against! Of course it's his standard routine to bury inconvenient posts that he can't actually respond to!

#shadySimpleton
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 20, 2022, 01:47:51 pm
Anti Trudeau crowd is melting down over this.

I'm worried as to where this could go.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 20, 2022, 04:34:27 pm
#BlackfaceHitler is trending on Twitter! 😂

Bangladeshi content mills working overtime I guess.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 20, 2022, 04:41:12 pm
https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

46% of Canadians sympathize with trucker convoy, but many disagree with their tactics: poll

I bet that number is significantly lower now than it was 10 days ago.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 20, 2022, 04:46:41 pm
I can't get over how gentle the police response has been. Saw a couple of instances of cops using pepper spray on people who were pushing back, but this isn't nearly as bad as how the Toronto cops dealt with the homeless encampments and it sure as hell has nothing on the U.S. police's response to the BLM protests, so all this right wing whinging about how bad it is just doesn't fly.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 05:26:37 pm
Anti Trudeau crowd is melting down over this.

I'm worried as to where this could go.
Well, when you do away with due process, some people are going to have a bit of a problem with it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 05:27:39 pm
Bangladeshi content mills working overtime I guess.
Nope, just working Canadians.  You know, the people you and your leader hate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 05:36:35 pm
Was all this really worth it?  All to force a small group of people to take medicine?  When the mandates for that medicine are being dropped provincially nation wide.  Was it really worth it to put the country through this?  To sow distrust, hate and division.  To invoke emergency provisions that allow the government to suspend due process rights.  You people are really truly disgusting.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 20, 2022, 06:41:02 pm
Was all this really worth it?  All to force a small group of people to take medicine?  When the mandates for that medicine are being dropped provincially nation wide.  Was it really worth it to put the country through this?  To sow distrust, hate and division.  To invoke emergency provisions that allow the government to suspend due process rights.  You people are really truly disgusting.

Or maybe... and hear me out on this... maybe they really were temporary measures until we deal with omicron. Mind blowing isn't it?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2022, 06:59:53 pm
Or maybe... and hear me out on this... maybe they really were temporary measures until we deal with omicron. Mind blowing isn't it?

There's omicron in Toronto and Alberta just as there's omicron in Michigan.  The trucker mandates were dumb.

If the government is going to take away people's rights to their own body autonomy and coerce them to take medicine maybe they want to base it on science at least.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 20, 2022, 07:03:14 pm
Was all this really worth it?

c'mon member Shady, freedumb ain't free, hey! Speaking of really worth it, seeing the CPC attempts to normalize the Ottawa occupation and to downplay its/their support for that mayhem... that's really worth it. Although I'm still waiting for a CPC MP to echo the line freedumbConvoy organizer Tamara Lich's husband offered during her bail hearing: "equating the blockades to a large traffic jam or parked cars in a snow storm"!

latest score count: 191 arrests / 206 bank accounts frozen / 22 licence plates seized / 53 vehicles towed / 11 commercial vehicle operator registrations suspended...

working to clear out Wellington Street - sweet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRocCWtfT_k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 20, 2022, 07:26:46 pm
There's omicron in Toronto and Alberta just as there's omicron in Michigan.  The trucker mandates were dumb.

If the government is going to take away people's rights to their own body autonomy and coerce them to take medicine maybe they want to base it on science at least.

Tell that to the Americans, they have the same mandate.

Protesters who wind up with a record because of this won't get into the US, vaccinated or not.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2022, 07:42:09 pm
Since WW2 the only PM's who have used the War Measures Act, since replaced with the Emergencies Act, had the last name "Trudeau".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 20, 2022, 08:58:57 pm
Well, when you do away with due process, some people are going to have a bit of a problem with it.

Due process is still in effect. Everyone gets their day in court and their charter rights are still intact.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2022, 09:12:57 pm
Due process is still in effect. Everyone gets their day in court and their charter rights are still intact.
Actually they’re not.  That’s the whole purpose of the emergencies act.  For example,  people are having their bank accounts frozen without a court order, without a day in court, etc.  How can you be so ignorant about something so important?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 20, 2022, 09:25:00 pm
Actually they’re not.  That’s the whole purpose of the emergencies act.  For example,  people are having their bank accounts frozen without a court order, without a day in court, etc.  How can you be so ignorant about something so important?

Third paragraph in the preamble. Try reading it sometime.

Apparently 76 accounts covering 3.2 million in donations have been frozen. That works out to over $42K per contribution. Aren't you interested in where that money came from. One might think it was an indication they were being manipulated by big money. Don't you think?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 20, 2022, 09:44:39 pm
Third paragraph in the preamble. Try reading it sometime.

lil' help for the shadyMember:

(https://i.imgur.com/77WfWcB.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 20, 2022, 09:50:09 pm
There's omicron in Toronto and Alberta just as there's omicron in Michigan.  The trucker mandates were dumb.

If the government is going to take away people's rights to their own body autonomy and coerce them to take medicine maybe they want to base it on science at least.

That’s not what this is about. Every country has some kind of vaccine policy and if the truckers get away with our borders, the US has the same policy.

No, these aholes want to get rid of all Covid restrictions. ‘Freedom’ from masks, vaccine passports, closures of any kind.

And they’re too stupid to realise Ottawa doesn’t make any of those rules.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2022, 10:19:03 pm
Due process is still in effect. Everyone gets their day in court and their charter rights are still intact.

They banned everyone, even peaceful protestors and uncredentialed members of the press, from the area in front of Parliament Hill and erected fences to block them from the people's property (Parliament Hill and Wellington Street).  So they curtailed freedom of the press, freedom of movement, and freedom of protest and assembly.  They had the authority to arrest the unlawful protestors/truckers without the emergencies act.

They also compelled private businesses to use their tow trucks to tow the truckers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2022, 10:21:28 pm
That’s not what this is about. Every country has some kind of vaccine policy and if the truckers get away with our borders, the US has the same policy.

No, these aholes want to get rid of all Covid restrictions. ‘Freedom’ from masks, vaccine passports, closures of any kind.

And they’re too stupid to realise Ottawa doesn’t make any of those rules.

The protests were a direct response to the Canadian mandate going into effect on Jan. 15.  The truckers started driving to Ottawa a week later.  Please don't try to rewrite history.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2022, 10:47:38 pm
I can't get over how gentle the police response has been. Saw a couple of instances of cops using pepper spray on people who were pushing back, but this isn't nearly as bad as how the Toronto cops dealt with the homeless encampments and it sure as hell has nothing on the U.S. police's response to the BLM protests, so all this right wing whinging about how bad it is just doesn't fly.

Lick these boots:

https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/1495465991979270145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1495465991979270145%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frepolitics.com%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fi%2Fstatus%2F1495465991979270145
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on February 20, 2022, 11:42:01 pm
Anti Trudeau crowd is melting down over this.

I'm worried as to where this could go.

TDS
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 21, 2022, 02:16:14 am
The protests were a direct response to the Canadian mandate going into effect on Jan. 15.  The truckers started driving to Ottawa a week later.  Please don't try to rewrite history.

They were idiots then too since they’d have the same issue at the US border, but let’s not kid ourselves… it may have started over truckers but it snowballed immediately into a more all encompassing ‘freedom’ protest against any and all Covid precautions. You certainly would have to be blind or stupid to deny that’s what all the ‘non truckers’ are protesting and those ARE provincial jurisdictions.

The blind leading the deaf dumb and blind.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 21, 2022, 07:53:31 am
The protests were a direct response to the Canadian mandate going into effect on Jan. 15.  The truckers started driving to Ottawa a week later.  Please don't try to rewrite history.

The US border mandate went into effect on the 22nd, a week after the Canadian mandate and the day the truckers left. Why didn’t they drive to Washington? Oh wait, they couldn’t cause they weren’t vaccinated.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 10:52:21 am
That’s not what this is about. Every country has some kind of vaccine policy and if the truckers get away with our borders, the US has the same policy.

No, these aholes want to get rid of all Covid restrictions. ‘Freedom’ from masks, vaccine passports, closures of any kind.

And they’re too stupid to realise Ottawa doesn’t make any of those rules.
All of these restrictions are ending soon anyways, even indoor mask mandates.  I feel sorry for people like you, that have been programmed to be so terrified and filled with irrational fear.  It’s going to be very difficult for people like you to be integrated back into society.  Many of you are probably permanently damaged.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 11:34:05 am
This is what a police state looks like.  Over 100 checkpoints now in place in Ottawa.  Police will now ask you what reason you have for being downtown, whether you’re in a car or on foot.

https://twitter.com/ottawapolice/status/1495773165221470213?s=21
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 11:35:09 am
This picture pretty much sums it up.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 21, 2022, 11:52:54 am
This picture pretty much sums it up.

member Shady - sooooooo obviously (& poorly) photoshopped! Try again, try harder!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 21, 2022, 12:35:28 pm
This is what a police state looks like.  Over 100 checkpoints now in place in Ottawa.  Police will now ask you what reason you have for being downtown, whether you’re in a car or on foot.

latest score count: 191 arrests / 206 bank accounts frozen / 22 licence plates seized / 53 vehicles towed / 11 commercial vehicle operator registrations suspended...

for those scoring @home: vehicle count update: 79 vehicles towed

hey now member Shady! What state do these images represent, hey?

(https://i.imgur.com/xp9fEP5.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 21, 2022, 12:38:49 pm
Remember all the conservatives and how OUTRAGED that they were during the G20 crackdown?

Whatabout whatabout?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 01:15:53 pm
Nope, just working Canadians.  You know, the people you and your leader hate.

Uh huh. (https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1492253044704116738)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 21, 2022, 01:18:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/NPo3fuy.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 01:20:49 pm
The protests were a direct response to the Canadian mandate going into effect on Jan. 15.  The truckers started driving to Ottawa a week later.  Please don't try to rewrite history.

The fact they pulled this same **** back in 2019 with the "United we Roll" convoy to Ottawa and the fact that the organizers have explicitly demanded an and to ALL mandates and restrictions shows that the trucker mandate was just pretext.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 01:26:38 pm
Lick these boots:

https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/1495465991979270145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1495465991979270145%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frepolitics.com%2Fforums%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fi%2Fstatus%2F1495465991979270145

LOL "brutality".

I don't remember you saying jack about this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKtg6-ZXIAIL6eY?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 21, 2022, 01:38:31 pm
All of these restrictions are ending soon anyways, even indoor mask mandates.  I feel sorry for people like you, that have been programmed to be so terrified and filled with irrational fear.  It’s going to be very difficult for people like you to be integrated back into society.  Many of you are probably permanently damaged.

Don’t feel sorry for me. Unlike the idiots ‘protesting’ I’m fully aware that we are not going to have mandates forever. BC had dropped its mask policy last summer too.

Your buddies are the ones acting like we’re all being trained away to concentration camps. If anyone here is irrationally afraid, it’s the dumbasses you constantly defend.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 01:41:10 pm
Here's a good thread  (https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1495807555905466377?s=20&t=rzfy3f7Q_hD3WqgrmX1l0w) highlighting how relatively nice this police operation was.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 01:45:51 pm
All of these restrictions are ending soon anyways, even indoor mask mandates.

So the protesters could have accomplished exactly the same thing simply by staying home? That just makes them sound even stupider. If they think mask and vaxx mandates  suck, wait until they discover this thing called "a criminal record."

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I feel sorry for people like you, that have been programmed to be so terrified and filled with irrational fear. It’s going to be very difficult for people like you to be integrated back into society.  Many of you are probably permanently damaged.

Says the guy going around comparing Trudeau to Hitler lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2022, 02:44:41 pm
This is what a police state looks like.  Over 100 checkpoints now in place in Ottawa.  Police will now ask you what reason you have for being downtown, whether you’re in a car or on foot.

https://twitter.com/ottawapolice/status/1495773165221470213?s=21

It's none of their darn business what anyone's reason is for traveling downtown.  This is a free country.

Unless the cops they have reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime it's literally none of their business.  That's how the law works.  Except not under the Emergencies Act where they have curbed the right to peaceful protest, assembly, and freedom of movement.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2022, 03:08:07 pm
Here's a good thread  (https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1495807555905466377?s=20&t=rzfy3f7Q_hD3WqgrmX1l0w) highlighting how relatively nice this police operation was.

The police operation was largely controlled, and as he stated in that twitter thread the crowd was relatively unaggressive during the operation also.

What's also interesting about these protests is the response by the Trudeau government.  In 2020 there were nationwide BC Gaslink pipeline protests and blockades that had trucks, cars, people all across the country blocking railways, highways, and border crossings into the US etc.  Thousands of Via Rail employees were laid off because of the illegal blockades.  This lasted for over 2 months, the timeline can be seen here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

Trudeau never enacted the Emergencies Act in 2020 despite the blockages/protests lasting much longer than the convoy, and Trudeau himself and other members of his gov sat down with protest leaders to negotiate an agreement.  As far as I know, not once did Trudeau or any members of his party even attempt to extend an olive branch to the convoy or contact them to discuss anything.  The Trudeau gov even stated in the Emergencies Act Regulations they recently posted that indigenous people and refugees were not bound by the Emergencies Act restrictions.  This is what a racist government does.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 03:17:42 pm
The police operation was largely controlled, and as he stated in that twitter thread the crowd was relatively unaggressive during the operation also.

What's also interesting about these protests is the response by the Trudeau government.  In 2020 there were nationwide BC Gaslink pipeline protests and blockades that had trucks, cars, people all across the country blocking railways, highways, and border crossings into the US etc.  Thousands of Via Rail employees were laid off because of the illegal blockades.  This lasted for over 2 months, the timeline can be seen here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

Trudeau never enacted the Emergencies Act in 2020 despite the blockages/protests lasting much longer than the convoy, and Trudeau himself and other members of his gov sat down with protest leaders to negotiate an agreement.  As far as I know, not once did Trudeau or any members of his party even attempt to extend an olive branch to the convoy or contact them to discuss anything.  The Trudeau gov even stated in the Emergencies Act Regulations they recently posted that indigenous people and refugees were not bound by the Emergencies Act restrictions.  This is what a racist government does.

Conflating a series of blockades, most of which were taken down in a couple of days of being erected, with the sustained occupation of the nation's capital is pretty specious.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2022, 03:30:31 pm
Conflating a series of blockades, most of which were taken down in a couple of days of being erected, with the sustained occupation of the nation's capital is pretty specious.

That's nonsense.  They were blocking railways for over 2 months:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

The truckers didn't occupy an entire city of Ottawa or downtown they set up blockades on a few streets on/near Wellington St in front of Parliament and near the War Memorial.

At least my position on those indigenous blockades (and BLM riots) were EXACTLY the same as my position on the convoy blockades and I don't cherry-pick my adherence to the law based on my political preferences:  https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/manitoba-politics/bc-v-wet'suet'en/?message=58936

You don't let any civilians blockade or threaten to blockade railways, roads, or whatnot.  That's not free speech, it's coercion and disturbing the peace and it's illegal.

Imagine any protest group with a strong opinion blocking city traffic whenever they felt like.  It would be chaos.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 03:57:13 pm
That's nonsense.  They were blocking railways for over 2 months:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

There was no continuous blockade of railways for two months, but multiple short-term blockades.

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The truckers didn't occupy an entire city of Ottawa or downtown they set up blockades on a few streets on/near Wellington St in front of Parliament and near the War Memorial.

tell that to all the people who had to put up with these dinks for three weeks.

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At least my position on those indigenous blockades (and BLM riots) were EXACTLY the same as my position on the convoy blockades and I don't cherry-pick my adherence to the law based on my political preferences:

Good for you, want a cookie or something?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2022, 04:32:32 pm
tell that to all the people who had to put up with these dinks for three weeks.

Where was your concern when small businesses were being burnt and looted during the BLM riots?  You don't care at all, it's just about power.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 04:36:55 pm
Where was your concern when small businesses were being burnt and looted during the BLM riots?  You don't care at all, it's just about power.

Try again, ****. (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-convoy-(non-censor-edition)/?message=85420)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 05:06:26 pm
Where was your concern when small businesses were being burnt and looted during the BLM riots?  You don't care at all, it's just about power.
Exactly.  He didn’t care at all.  He didn’t say even one word against it.  That’s why people like him have zero credibility on this subject.  They sat on their hands and call violent riots and looting for months on end as mostly peaceful protests.  These chicken hawks even cheered on their cause, knowing they were far from facing any if the consequences.  They set the standard of response to protests and civil disobedience, but now when they’re held to that standard they cry foul.  The only thing foul is the stink of their hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 05:08:58 pm
Anyone who supports and defends this overreach is a **** stain on society.  Leave this country, you’re no longer compatible with a free society.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 21, 2022, 05:14:37 pm
Anyone who supports and defends this overreach is a **** stain on society.  Leave this country, you’re no longer compatible with a free society.

You might want to look at some of the quote tweet responses to that post. Mr. Stahl's claim has been thoroughly debunked.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 21, 2022, 05:43:27 pm
Where were you during the G20 police actions? I guess you'll always be too stupid to see you're the hypocrite you accuse others of being.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 21, 2022, 05:44:20 pm

You might want to look at some of the quote tweet responses to that post. Mr. Stahl's claim has been thoroughly debunked.

LOL

That tweet will not age well for MP Strahl. 

ETA - he’s keeping the identity of the single mom a secret….  Sure you are Chuck…. Sure you are….
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 06:34:16 pm
https://youtu.be/LH1HosFiYP4
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 21, 2022, 06:41:36 pm
LOL

That tweet will not age well for MP Strahl. 

ETA - he’s keeping the identity of the single mom a secret….  Sure you are Chuck…. Sure you are….

He's doubled down and the responses are why I twitter.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 07:10:54 pm
None of Trudeau’s thugs are wearing police body cameras, AND they’re forbidding anyone from recording anything that goes on during the arrests, even confiscating people’s phones and cameras.  What country are we living in against?  Holy ****
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 21, 2022, 07:15:11 pm
Freeland was on television today indicating that they want to make the financial tools available to them under the emergencies act permanent. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 21, 2022, 07:22:50 pm
  What country are we living in against? 
It's refreshing when you say what you mean.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 21, 2022, 08:08:24 pm
Freeland was on television today indicating that they want to make the financial tools available to them under the emergencies act permanent.

Sounds reasonable to get to the funding of illegal activities.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 09:09:38 pm
Exactly.  He didn’t care at all.  He didn’t say even one word against it. That’s why people like him have zero credibility on this subject. 

Again, you're wrong, but that's like breathing for you.

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They sat on their hands and call violent riots and looting for months on end as mostly peaceful protests. These chicken hawks even cheered on their cause, knowing they were far from facing any if the consequences.  They set the standard of response to protests and civil disobedience, but now when they’re held to that standard they cry foul.  The only thing foul is the stink of their hypocrisy.

Because they were mostly peaceful. Millions of people turned out in communities across the world to protest peacefully, with violence being the outlier and not the norm, but racist goofs like you pretend otherwise, which is why no one takes you seriously, or gives a damn about your constant whining about hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 21, 2022, 09:15:00 pm
None of Trudeau’s thugs are wearing police body cameras, AND they’re forbidding anyone from recording anything that goes on during the arrests, even confiscating people’s phones and cameras.  What country are we living in against?  Holy ****

LOL I've seen dozens upon dozens of videos of people being arrested, you're a fantasist and a liar.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 07:53:25 am
Anyone who supports and defends this overreach is a **** stain on society.  Leave this country, you’re no longer compatible with a free society.

speaking of shyte-stains - you! As has been pointed out by other members, your reference to that CPC MP Strahl tweet/claim has been so {comically} rebuffed; of course, that nut-job CPC MP Gladu had to reinforce the CPC misinformation campaign:

(https://i.imgur.com/JXH9Bvb.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 08:03:46 am
https://youtu.be/LH1HosFiYP4

South Asian truckers say protest convoys didn't resonate with them, caused financial losses (https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/south-asian-truckers-convoy-1.6359372) --- South Asian Canadians make up 16 per cent of truckers and come from a community with a high vaccination rate

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 08:17:14 am
Again, you're wrong, but that's like breathing for you.

Because they were mostly peaceful. Millions of people turned out in communities across the world to protest peacefully, with violence being the outlier and not the norm, but racist goofs like you pretend otherwise, which is why no one takes you seriously, or gives a damn about your constant whining about hypocrisy.
Yes, mostly peaceful.  Well, the convoy protest was completely peaceful.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 08:22:03 am
LOL I've seen dozens upon dozens of videos of people being arrested, you're a fantasist and a liar.
It’s a fact that police aren’t wearing body cameras, and they specifically told people they cannot record arrests closer than from a block away.  They’re literally on video saying that.  But yes, a few of the thousands of people there have managed to get some through.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 08:30:17 am
Trudeau is a classic tyrant.  Extending “emergency” power, even after the “emergency” is over.  Why is it that Canada only has these “emergencies” when a Trudeau is in office?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 08:34:50 am
Trudeau is a classic tyrant.  Extending “emergency” power, even after the “emergency” is over.

hey now Mr. PM {in waiting}, speaking of 'never happening again', care to comment on the several nearby relocation... repositioning... spots where protesters have moved? This recent days drone image of a private farm some ~100km from Ottawa - well sir, what say you, hey! Perhaps your pining acolyte, member Shady can offer comment - yes? Hey Shady... wassup, hey!

(https://i.imgur.com/YPX3xeW.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 08:41:02 am
This is what a police state looks like.  Over 100 checkpoints now in place in Ottawa.  Police will now ask you what reason you have for being downtown, whether you’re in a car or on foot.

hey now member Shady! What state do these images represent, hey?

(https://i.imgur.com/xp9fEP5.jpg)

again, member Shady - what state do these images represent? No comment member Shady? No comment, hey?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 08:43:50 am
hey now Mr. PM {in waiting}, speaking of 'never happening again', care to comment on the several nearby relocation... repositioning... spots where protesters have moved? This recent days drone image of a private farm some ~100km from Ottawa - well sir, what say you, hey! Perhaps your pining acolyte, member Shady can offer comment - yes? Hey Shady... wassup, hey!

(https://i.imgur.com/YPX3xeW.jpg)
So what?  A private home?  That’s illegal now?  Listen to yourself, it’s frightening.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 08:50:35 am
again, member Shady - what state do these images represent? No comment member Shady? No comment, hey?
Is that of the peaceful protest before Trudeau's jackbooted thugs got involved?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 09:00:35 am
So what?  A private home?  That’s illegal now?  Listen to yourself, it’s frightening.

so... nuthin to see here, hey! Wait now, waddabout that trucker convoy from Alberta 'stopped in its tracks' at the Manitoba border just a few days ago... travel intent to join the mayhem/occupation in Ottawa. Or the potential threats that trucker convoys will again/soon target border crossings? Nuthin to see here, hey!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 09:05:43 am
This is what a police state looks like.  Over 100 checkpoints now in place in Ottawa.  Police will now ask you what reason you have for being downtown, whether you’re in a car or on foot.

hey now member Shady! What state do these images represent, hey?

(https://i.imgur.com/xp9fEP5.jpg)

again, member Shady - what state do these images represent? No comment member Shady? No comment, hey?

Is that of the peaceful protest before Trudeau's jackbooted thugs got involved?

your/that "peaceful protest" occupation of the nation's capital city... for 3 weeks... that shuttered the downtown core and severely impacted upon downtown businesses/residents? That one?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 09:09:07 am
Yes, mostly peaceful.  Well, the convoy protest was completely peaceful.

No the convoy protest wasn't completely peaceful. Hell it wasn't even completely non-violent.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on February 22, 2022, 09:09:41 am
Anyone who supports and defends this overreach is a **** stain on society.  Leave this country, you’re no longer compatible with a free society.

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A single mom in Chilliwack working a minimum wage job can't afford to give $50 to any cause other than her own.  This claim is clearly a lie.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 09:10:56 am
It’s a fact that police aren’t wearing body cameras, and they specifically told people they cannot record arrests closer than from a block away.  They’re literally on video saying that.

Then prove it.

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But yes, a few of the thousands of people there have managed to get some through.

LOL, "thousands".
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 09:14:14 am
Is that of the peaceful protest before Trudeau's jackbooted thugs got involved?

I would not normally wish living under an authoritarian regime on anyone, but I would love for you to taste the business end of a police baton or be whisked away in an unmarked van to a secret torture site just so you could understand what it's actually like to be targeted by "jackbooted thugs."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:37:16 am
No the convoy protest wasn't completely peaceful. Hell it wasn't even completely non-violent.
Your BLM riots were ten times worse.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:38:13 am
so... nuthin to see here, hey! Wait now, waddabout that trucker convoy from Alberta 'stopped in its tracks' at the Manitoba border just a few days ago... travel intent to join the mayhem/occupation in Ottawa. Or the potential threats that trucker convoys will again/soon target border crossings? Nuthin to see here, hey!
At least you’ve moved on from advocating police enforcement on private property.  That’s a start.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:40:41 am
again, member Shady - what state do these images represent? No comment member Shady? No comment, hey?

your/that "peaceful protest" occupation of the nation's capital city... for 3 weeks... that shuttered the downtown core and severely impacted upon downtown businesses/residents? That one?
Lockdown waldo is all of a sudden concerned about businesses!  Unbelievable!  After you cheered on indefinite months long forced business closures.  You have no credibility.  None.  Sit this one out son.  Your me a complete and utter hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on February 22, 2022, 09:41:51 am
Your BLM riots were ten times worse.

Shady philosophy:  What I do is ok, as long as someone else is doing something worse.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 09:46:28 am
At least you’ve moved on from advocating police enforcement on private property.  That’s a start.

says your self-serving, agenda-driven inference! But c'mon man, how naive are you {and CPC MPs/leader} to view said 'private farm/property' as just an example of an innocuous respite site for the 'good ole' boy peaceniks' fresh off their 3-week occupation of Canada's national capital city? Just how naive are you, hey?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 09:47:53 am
Your BLM riots were ten times worse.


The economic damage done by BLM riots were a tiny fraction of that caused by this demonstration and the blockades.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:48:14 am
says your self-serving, agenda-driven inference! But c'mon man, how naive are you {and CPC MPs/leader} to view said 'private farm/property' as just an example of an innocuous respite site for the 'good ole' boy peaceniks' fresh off their 3-week occupation of Canada's national capital city? Just how naive are you, hey?
It’s not against the law you f**king fascist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 09:48:46 am
Your BLM riots were ten times worse.
Only when you Proud Boys showed up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:49:25 am

The economic damage done by BLM riots were a tiny fraction of that caused by this demonstration and the blockades.
If you supported lockdowns you have no credibility either.  Sit this one out.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 09:49:44 am
At least you’ve moved on from advocating police enforcement on private property.  That’s a start.

No need, they have built their own prison. Just just give them a taste of their own medicine and blockade the place.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:53:52 am
No need, they have built their own prison. Just just give them a taste of their own medicine and blockade the place.
Spoken like a true fascist. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 09:56:23 am
Only when you Proud Boys showed up.
That's a great conspiracy theory BlueAnon.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 09:57:56 am
again, member Shady - what state do these images represent? No comment member Shady? No comment, hey?

your/that "peaceful protest" occupation of the nation's capital city... for 3 weeks... that shuttered the downtown core and severely impacted upon downtown businesses/residents? That one?

Lockdown waldo is all of a sudden concerned about businesses!  Unbelievable!  After you cheered on indefinite months long forced business closures.  You have no credibility.  None.  Sit this one out son.  Your me a complete and utter hypocrite.

sorry, no 'cheering' from the waldo! In the face of your ever growing list of failed positions/arguments, your go-to reach in making shyte up is gold - real gold! And ya, some businesses were significantly impacted during restriction periods... and, of course, you will ignore/diminish the impact of government benefits available to some of those businesses. Of course, that is the way of weaselShady!

but hey now, if concernedShady cared about businesses during so-called 'lockdown' periods, why does unconcernedShady have no consideration towards Ottawa businesses impacted upon by the 'truckerConvoy' occupation? Why is that, hey member Shady? Why is that?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 22, 2022, 10:03:48 am
At least you’ve moved on from advocating police enforcement on private property.  That’s a start.

says your self-serving, agenda-driven inference! But c'mon man, how naive are you {and CPC MPs/leader} to view said 'private farm/property' as just an example of an innocuous respite site for the 'good ole' boy peaceniks' fresh off their 3-week occupation of Canada's national capital city? Just how naive are you, hey?

No need, they have built their own prison. Just just give them a taste of their own medicine and blockade the place.

drone kettling! I'm sure member Shady would approve of such 'arms-length' monitoring - indeed!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:05:36 am
Freedom convoy organizer has been denied bail.  The fascism continues.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:11:03 am
sorry, no 'cheering' from the waldo! In the face of your ever growing list of failed positions/arguments, your go-to reach in making shyte up is gold - real gold! And ya, some businesses were significantly impacted during restriction periods... and, of course, you will ignore/diminish the impact of government benefits available to some of those businesses. Of course, that is the way of weaselShady!

but hey now, if concernedShady cared about businesses during so-called 'lockdown' periods, why does unconcernedShady have no consideration towards Ottawa businesses impacted upon by the 'truckerConvoy' occupation? Why is that, hey member Shady? Why is that?
These protests wouldn’t be necessary but for the unnecessary, unscientific and unconstitutional vaccine mandate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:11:54 am
says your self-serving, agenda-driven inference! But c'mon man, how naive are you {and CPC MPs/leader} to view said 'private farm/property' as just an example of an innocuous respite site for the 'good ole' boy peaceniks' fresh off their 3-week occupation of Canada's national capital city? Just how naive are you, hey?

drone kettling! I'm sure member Shady would approve of such 'arms-length' monitoring - indeed!
Is there an end to your police state?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 10:21:28 am
Is there an end to your police state?
Is there any cognitive dissonance when you say people hate the police and want to defund them, and then say they want a police state?
Maybe you're not quite smart enough for cognitive dissonance? Or it it just all dissonance all the time in there?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:34:07 am
Your BLM riots were ten times worse.

When caught in a lie, just whataboutwhataboutwhatabout

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 22, 2022, 10:35:56 am
These protests wouldn’t be necessary but for the unnecessary, unscientific and unconstitutional vaccine mandate.

And also Trudeau has to resign because... 500 trucks
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:36:17 am
Shady philosophy:  What I do is ok, as long as someone else is doing something worse.

It must suck for him to have no agency and only be capable of knee-jerk responses to external stimuli.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:37:42 am
Freedom convoy organizer has been denied bail.  The fascism continues.

Fascism being well known for giving people a day in court and a chance to plead their case.

She bought the ticket, she's taking the ride.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 10:41:49 am
If you supported lockdowns you have no credibility either.  Sit this one out.

No thanks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 10:43:22 am
Freedom convoy organizer has been denied bail.  The fascism continues.

Judge doesn't believe she will follow conditions. The law is such a PITA.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:46:50 am
Is there any cognitive dissonance when you say people hate the police and want to defund them, and then say they want a police state?
Maybe you're not quite smart enough for cognitive dissonance? Or it it just all dissonance all the time in there?
I’ve never called for defunding the police.  You have.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:47:07 am
Judge doesn't believe she will follow conditions. The law is such a PITA.

Right wing nuts will cry "fascism!" at everything except actual fascism.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 10:47:31 am
Judge doesn't believe she will follow conditions. The law is such a PITA.
How fascist that, under Trudeau, judges can now just decide whether people charged with crimes should get bail or not. Who do these judges think they are? Judges?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:47:38 am
I’ve never called for defunding the police.  You have.

Your reading comprehension skills are beyond parody.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 10:48:44 am
Right wing nuts will cry "fascism!" at everything except actual fascism.
Fascist, Nazi or Commie. They can't make up their minds.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:48:54 am
Fascism being well known for giving people a day in court and a chance to plead their case.

She bought the ticket, she's taking the ride.
On what grounds?  A flight risk? 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:49:04 am
How fascist that, under Trudeau, judges can now just decide whether people charged with crimes should get bail or not. Who do these judges think they are? Judges?

Kinda drives home the fact that when these people talk about freedom they mean "freedom to do whatever I want without consequences or responsibilities."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:49:17 am
No thanks.
You’re a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:49:49 am
On what grounds?  A flight risk? 😂

The opposite, they figure she won't go home.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:50:05 am
When caught in a lie, just whataboutwhataboutwhatabout
When caught in lies and double standards complain when those lies and double standards are called out.  Call it whataboutism!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:50:24 am
Fascist, Nazi or Commie. They can't make up their minds.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:51:34 am
Fascist, Nazi or Commie. They can't make up their minds.
All of the above.  You people support authoritarian rules simply because you don’t like the politics of those involved.  It’s abhorrent.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:51:45 am
When caught in lies and double standards complain when those lies and double standards are called out.  Call it whataboutism!

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 10:52:07 am
All of the above.  You people support authoritarian rules simply because you don’t like the politics of those involved.  It’s abhorrent.

Words have meanings you know.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:53:30 am
Kinda drives home the fact that when these people talk about freedom they mean "freedom to do whatever I want without consequences or responsibilities."
Nope, just freedom as defined under the constitution and charter.  But because you don’t like the politics of these people, you have no problem with their rights being infringed on.  It’s abhorrent.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 10:55:29 am
I’ve never called for defunding the police.  You have.
Actually, I haven't. And I didn't say you did either. Try reading it again slower.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:56:31 am
Words have meanings you know.
The constitution and the charter have no meaning to you.  It’s abhorrent.  All because you don’t like the politics of those involved.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 10:58:18 am
Actually, I haven't. And I didn't say you did either. Try reading it again slower.
Well, you’re sure has, as well as bail reform.  Bail reform that’s been extended to violent criminals but not to a truck protester.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 10:59:05 am
You’re a hypocrite.

That's the thing about fanatics, disagree with them on one thing and they use that as an excuse to define everything you think.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:02:46 am
Well, you’re sure has, as well as bail reform.  Bail reform that’s been extended to violent criminals but not to a truck protester.

You get bail if a judge thinks you will  abide by the conditions of your bail. The conditions were that Lich go home and stop counselling people to commit mischief. The judge said she doesn't believe Lich will abide by those conditions.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:04:12 am
That's the thing about fanatics, disagree with them on one thing and they use that as an excuse to define everything you think.
Agreed.  Now go off supporting months long business shutdowns by the government by edict over two years, and then be concerned about a protest for a few weeks.  It’s what concern trolls are best at.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 11:05:00 am
Well, you’re sure has, as well as bail reform.  Bail reform that’s been extended to violent criminals but not to a truck protester.
That doesn't sound like you understand the question at all. Try again and maybe look up the words you don't understand.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:06:26 am
You get bail if a judge thinks you will  abide by the conditions of your bail. The conditions were that Lich go home and stop counselling people to commit mischief. The judge said she doesn't believe Lich will abide by those conditions.
Counselling people?  So the government can tell you that you cannot talk to people in private?  I don’t understand how you people can just accept government overreach so easily?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:07:35 am
That doesn't sound like you understand the question at all. Try again and maybe look up the words you don't understand.
Maybe look up the constitution and the charter.  Maybe you’ll understand better too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:09:50 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:15:09 am
Counselling people?  So the government can tell you that you cannot talk to people in private?  I don’t understand how you people can just accept government overreach so easily?

Counselling people to commit a crime. Sure they can.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 11:17:29 am
Maybe look up the constitution and the charter.  Maybe you’ll understand better too.
Emergencies Act does not overrule the Charter. Blockades and illegal occupations are not covered under it.
This is what happens when you follow foreign actors against your own country
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:19:13 am
Counselling people to commit a crime. Sure they can.
How are they going to know what the conversation is about?  Let me guess! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:20:54 am
Emergencies Act does not overrule the Charter. Blockades and illegal occupations are not covered under it.
This is what happens when you follow foreign actors against your own country
People are having their rights infringed on.  Their bank accounts frozen with no court order which is required.  Due process rights are being trampled.  And you blame it on foreign actors like a good like nazi.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:22:13 am


Police now equal ISIS.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 11:22:42 am
How are they going to know what the conversation is about?  Let me guess! 😂

Ummm….  The idiot posted it on Twitter, dumbf*ck.  LOL
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:23:35 am
How are they going to know what the conversation is about?  Let me guess! 😂

They wouldn't know if it was a private conversation. The judge is concerned about social media etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 11:24:54 am
Police equal ISIS but don't you dare defund them and get social workers to do some of their work. :lol:
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:25:12 am
People are having their rights infringed on.  Their bank accounts frozen with no court order which is required.  Due process rights are being trampled.  And you blame it on foreign actors like a good like nazi.

Due process has not been trampled. People still get their day in court where the Charter applies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 11:28:51 am
Since when is a court order required to freeze a bank account? 

A bank can freeze your account right now if they suspect money is being used for crimes, or if someone is writing bad cheques. 

If you don’t pay your taxes, do you think a court order is needed to freeze your account?  The answer is no, dummy. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 11:29:51 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 11:30:38 am
Hilarious how Trudeau's evil Charter has suddenly become sacred. Too bad they have no idea what's in it and how it works.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 11:30:56 am

Police now equal ISIS.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

The people in the picture weren’t even arrested.  Cops don’t leave people kneeling in front of their line when they arrest them.

They tackle them behind the lines, face wash them with snow a bit and move them away.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:32:59 am
Welcome to Canada, where posting “hold the line” in regards to a peaceful protest of civil disobedience gets you denied bail.  Yikes.  But what’s worse is we have useful idiots in this forum cheering on the expanded powers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 11:33:37 am
The constitution and the charter have no meaning to you.  It’s abhorrent.  All because you don’t like the politics of those involved.

Doesn't understand the Criminal Code either. Shady does't think there is such a thing as an unlawful gathering. lol
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 11:35:19 am
Welcome to Canada, where posting “hold the line” in regards to a peaceful protest of civil disobedience gets you denied bail.  Yikes.  But what’s worse is we have useful idiots in this forum cheering on the expanded powers.

Being denied bail because you're telling people to break the law has nothing to do with the Emergencies Act. With every post, you're showing how little you know of what you speak.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 11:35:36 am
Welcome to Canada, where posting “hold the line” in regards to a peaceful protest of civil disobedience gets you denied bail.  Yikes.  But what’s worse is we have useful idiots in this forum cheering on the expanded powers.
How do you feel about the police action during G20?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:36:19 am
Doesn't understand the Criminal Code either. Shady does't think there is such a thing as an unlawful gathering. lol
Emergency powers that suspend due process rights and other rights aren’t required to deal with a unlawful gathering.  Keep cheerleading government overreach all because you don’t like the politics of the protesters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 11:36:57 am
Nope, just freedom as defined under the constitution and charter.  But because you don’t like the politics of these people, you have no problem with their rights being infringed on.  It’s abhorrent.

These are all just buzzwords to you, you have no idea what they mean lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:37:19 am
How do you feel about the police action during G20?
Anyone that’s destroying property and/or throwing things like Molotov cocktails should be arrested.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 11:38:29 am
These are all just buzzwords to you, you have no idea what they mean lol.
I guess we can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 11:49:53 am
Emergency powers that suspend due process rights and other rights aren’t required to deal with a unlawful gathering.  Keep cheerleading government overreach all because you don’t like the politics of the protesters.

I don't think the EA was needed, what was needed for the pigs in Ottawa to do their jobs, but they wouldn't or couldn't and someone had to stop this nonsense and the EA doesn't suspend civil rights or override the Charter.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 12:06:16 pm
I don't think the EA was needed, what was needed for the pigs in Ottawa to do their jobs, but they wouldn't or couldn't and someone had to stop this nonsense and the EA doesn't suspend civil rights or override the Charter.

Why should someone you call a pig be in a hurry to do anything for you? You want respect, try showing a little. This operation took hundreds if not thousands of police. Ottawa has about 1400 sworn members of all descriptions, uniformed and non uniformed and a whole city to police. What do you think would have happened if they had gone in with too few people, been overwhelmed and had to start shooting. I could just hear you screaming about police brutality then.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 12:30:49 pm
What do you think would have happened if they had gone in with too few people, been overwhelmed and had to start shooting.

Peace and quiet after 3 hours, rather than 3 weeks?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 12:38:15 pm
Why should someone you call a pig be in a hurry to do anything for you? You want respect, try showing a little. This operation took hundreds if not thousands of police. Ottawa has about 1400 sworn members of all descriptions, uniformed and non uniformed and a whole city to police. What do you think would have happened if they had gone in with too few people, been overwhelmed and had to start shooting. I could just hear you screaming about police brutality then.
You have stumbled into the very famous Black Dog Double Standard.  His use of the term pigs is very telling.  It’s probably why he’s also so dismissive of minorities that have differing political opinions.  I can’t only imagine the cool nicknames he has for them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 12:40:59 pm
You have stumbled into the very famous Black Dog Double Standard.  His use of the term pigs is very telling.  It’s probably why he’s also so dismissive of minorities that have differing political opinions.  I can’t only imagine the cool nicknames he has for them.

You are the one accusing the police of atrocities. You are no stranger to double standards yourself.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 12:44:44 pm
You are the one accusing the police of atrocities. You are no stranger to double standards yourself.
No, my issue is with the politicians, or politician in particular.  The police are following orders.  I don’t fault law enforcement.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 12:45:05 pm
Peace and quiet after 3 hours, rather than 3 weeks?

A bunch of dead and injured people and traumatized police officers you mean. Most of the police there were experienced in crowd control and it showed by how few incidents there were. It took far too long to get them there but they showed incredible restraint and discipline when they did act.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 12:47:00 pm
No, my issue is with the politicians, or politician in particular.  The police are following orders.  I don’t fault law enforcement.

Sure you do, you showed them like they were a bunch of ISIS about to saw the heads of people.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 01:32:57 pm
Why should someone you call a pig be in a hurry to do anything for you? You want respect, try showing a little.

Because it's their f*cking job to serve us. That it's not enough they have a complete monopoly on sate sanctioned violence and are almost never held accountable for their abuses of power, but we have to also be nice to them or they won't do what we pay them to do is why people don't like cops.

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This operation took hundreds if not thousands of police. Ottawa has about 1400 sworn members of all descriptions, uniformed and non uniformed and a whole city to police. What do you think would have happened if they had gone in with too few people, been overwhelmed and had to start shooting. I could just hear you screaming about police brutality then.

I'd have more time for this if there wasn't extensive evidence of Ottawa cops being chummy with the convoy people and letting them get away with breaking the law in front of them.


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 01:35:21 pm
No, my issue is with the politicians, or politician in particular.  The police are following orders. I don’t fault law enforcement.

You literally called them "jackbooted thugs" like a couple of hours ago lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 01:43:11 pm
Because it's their f*cking job to serve us. That it's not enough they have a complete monopoly on sate sanctioned violence and are almost never held accountable for their abuses of power, but we have to also be nice to them or they won't do what we pay them to do is why people don't like cops.



it is and they do, regardless of how big an A hole you are.

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I'd have more time for this if there wasn't extensive evidence of Ottawa cops being chummy with the convoy people and letting them get away with breaking the law in front of them.

What did you want them to do, pick fights when they are outnumbered 30 to 1?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 01:49:59 pm
it is and they do, regardless of how big an **** you are.

As they should. A shame they're bad at it.

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What did you want them to do, pick fights when they are outnumbered 30 to 1?

So I guess you can break any law you want right under the noses of the guys with guns provided you have enough buddies around. Good to know!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 02:08:30 pm
As they should. A shame they're bad at it.



I can't help but wonder what has made you so bitter. There has to be a history there.

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So I guess you can break any law you want right under the noses of the guys with guns provided you have enough buddies around. Good to know!


You just don't get it. If the police get into a confrontation with crowds, they have to win, there is no such thing as fair. The alternative is chaos and anarchy. The greater the show of force the less likely there will be violence. Piecemeal response just increases the chances of violence and can embolden a crowd. If there is one problem with this it's that many protesters thought the police were on their side when they weren't, they were just trying to keep a lid on the situation until the authorities got off their collective asses and gave them the support they needed.
 
It's a good thing they acted like professionals instead of letting their emotions rule like you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 02:49:12 pm
I can't help but wonder what has made you so bitter. There has to be a history there.


You just don't get it. If the police get into a confrontation with crowds, they have to win, there is no such thing as fair. The alternative is chaos and anarchy. The greater the show of force the less likely there will be violence. Piecemeal response just increases the chances of violence and can embolden a crowd. If there is one problem with this it's that many protesters thought the police were on their side when they weren't, they were just trying to keep a lid on the situation until the authorities got off their collective asses and gave them the support they needed.
 
It's a good thing they acted like professionals instead of letting their emotions rule like you.

I was being facetious with my comment about the shootings would have shortened the timeline. 

The cops did nothing wrong and showed far more restraint against those people than we have seen from them against natives or some of the “left wing” protests in the past (G20).   I think they showed a great example on how to handle folks who were generally non-violent in their response.  Obviously, rioters would have had to be dealt with differently.

The failure seemed to be in the intelligence and leadership.  They knew for weeks they were coming to blockade the city.  Why did they just let them in? 
Did CSIS and the RCMP give the local cops the intelligence?
Did the local police leadership do anything with the information?
Why did it take the Emergencies Act to get the police organized when they could have done it without using the Act?
Did the Province just sit on their hands?

These are the questions that need answering through a public inquiry. 

Of course, the Cons are not interested in those failures…. They are wondering why the blockade was ever removed in the first place.  So they have absolutely zero to add to any discussion about this. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 02:58:41 pm
I can't help but wonder what has made you so bitter. There has to be a history there.

You don't need to be bitter to have issues with the unchecked and unaccountable police.

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You just don't get it. If the police get into a confrontation with crowds, they have to win, there is no such thing as fair. The alternative is chaos and anarchy. The greater the show of force the less likely there will be violence. Piecemeal response just increases the chances of violence and can embolden a crowd. If there is one problem with this it's that many protesters thought the police were on their side when they weren't, they were just trying to keep a lid on the situation until the authorities got off their collective asses and gave them the support they needed.
 
It's a good thing they acted like professionals instead of letting their emotions rule like you.

They were doing such a good job that the chief quit.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 03:30:48 pm
Well, it turns out the judge that denied bail to the convoy organizer is a failed Liberal candidate from several years ago.  There’s new video that’s been unearthed showing Justin Trudeau heaping praise on her from back in 2011. 

https://rumble.com/vvl4nc-flashback-justin-trudeau-expresses-support-for-julie-bourgeois-failed-liber.html

Can you say kangaroo court?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 03:33:12 pm
Well, it turns out the judge that denied bail to the convoy organizer is a failed Liberal candidate from several years ago.  There’s new video that’s been unearthed showing Justin Trudeau heaping praise on her from back in 2011. 

https://rumble.com/vvl4nc-flashback-justin-trudeau-expresses-support-for-julie-bourgeois-failed-liber.html

Can you say kangaroo court?

Which specific part of the ruling do you think was unjustified under the law and facts before the court?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 03:35:10 pm
Because it's their f*cking job to serve us. That it's not enough they have a complete monopoly on sate sanctioned violence and are almost never held accountable for their abuses of power, but we have to also be nice to them or they won't do what we pay them to do is why people don't like cops.

I'd have more time for this if there wasn't extensive evidence of Ottawa cops being chummy with the convoy people and letting them get away with breaking the law in front of them.
Actually most people like cops.  Most people understand that their job is to enforce the law the lawmakers we vote for put in place.  In many cases their out in the position of enforcing bad laws and policies.  That’s not their fault.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 03:44:35 pm
Here are some examples of people granted bail recently.
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 03:45:49 pm
Actually most people like cops. Most people understand that their job is to enforce the law the lawmakers we vote for put in place.  In many cases their out in the position of enforcing bad laws and policies.  That’s not their fault.

Again: you called them "jackbooted thugs" this morning.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 03:52:34 pm
Again: you called them "jackbooted thugs" this morning.
Yes, based on the orders they’ve received from higher up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 03:56:59 pm
Yes, based on the orders they’ve received from higher up.
So you would be opposed to defunding the Gestapo?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 04:07:53 pm
Leaked RCMP messages show them laughing about trampling an elderly woman with their horses.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 04:09:11 pm
Leaked RCMP messages show them laughing about trampling an elderly woman with their horses.
Hmmm...maybe the Floyd protests were justified.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 04:20:30 pm
Hmmm...maybe the Floyd protests were justified.
Nope.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 22, 2022, 04:23:35 pm
Nope.
It should have been for an uninjured white woman and not for a murdered black man?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 04:56:44 pm
It should have been for an uninjured white woman and not for a murdered black man?
Actually it was an indigenous elderly woman.  But nope, it’s ultimately Trudeau’s fault all of this nonsense took place.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 22, 2022, 05:32:08 pm
This is how deranged it’s gotten!

Canadian Liberal MP Ya'ara Saks said that "Honk Honk" is code for "Heil Hitler" while testifying in parliament on Monday in defense of Trudeau invoking the Emergencies Act to crack down on Canadian freedom protesters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 22, 2022, 05:49:15 pm
This is how deranged it’s gotten!

Canadian Liberal MP Ya'ara Saks said that "Honk Honk" is code for "Heil Hitler" while testifying in parliament on Monday in defense of Trudeau invoking the Emergencies Act to crack down on Canadian freedom protesters.

LOL

Libs aren’t doing themselves any favours with that.  There’s enough to criticize these goons for without resorting to conspiracies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 05:50:47 pm
Leaked RCMP messages show them laughing about trampling an elderly woman with their horses.

Just doing their jobs and following orders, right?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 05:51:16 pm
Actually it was an indigenous elderly woman.  But nope, it’s ultimately Trudeau’s fault all of this nonsense took place.


Sure, these convoy idiots have no agency, they're just zombies.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 06:40:22 pm
You don't need to be bitter to have issues with the unchecked and unaccountable police.



I don't believe you. I also think you are full of it.

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They were doing such a good job that the chief quit.

Ya because he didn't send them in to break heads like you wanted the unchecked and unaccountable to do. Make up your effing mind.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 22, 2022, 07:17:42 pm
Because it's their f*cking job to serve us. That it's not enough they have a complete monopoly on sate sanctioned violence and are almost never held accountable for their abuses of power, but we have to also be nice to them or they won't do what we pay them to do is why people don't like cops.

This is factual.  Cops are public servants.  They have to serve us even if we yell profanities at them.  They can't discriminate.  They can't pick and choose what people they apply the law to, and who they don't, or who they treat professionally and who they don't.  They also don't even have the authority to verbally disrespect a member of the public, no different than the person working at the passport office.  They are obliged to treat all members of the public with respect, apply the law, and use the minimum amount of force necessary to uphold the law.  Just like the cashier at a grocery store can't yell at a customer disrespectfully.  The cops that do that are abusing their power.

Police have codes of conduct.  They work for and serve us.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 22, 2022, 07:19:55 pm
Well, it turns out the judge that denied bail to the convoy organizer is a failed Liberal candidate from several years ago.  There’s new video that’s been unearthed showing Justin Trudeau heaping praise on her from back in 2011. 

https://rumble.com/vvl4nc-flashback-justin-trudeau-expresses-support-for-julie-bourgeois-failed-liber.html

Can you say kangaroo court?

LOL.  What a peach!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 22, 2022, 09:09:47 pm
I don't believe you. I also think you are full of it.

Ya because he didn't send them in to break heads like you wanted the unchecked and unaccountable to do. Make up your effing mind.

There's a difference between "breaking heads" and "doing literally nothing."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 22, 2022, 11:16:16 pm
There's a difference between "breaking heads" and "doing literally nothing."

OK. What then?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 09:38:37 am
OK. What then?

IDK, isn't that what we pay cops $100K a year to figure out?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 10:03:55 am
IDK, isn't that what we pay cops $100K a year to figure out?

So you don't know, you just don't like cops.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 10:06:18 am
IDK, isn't that what we pay cops $100K a year to figure out?
Police salaries vary depending on the municipality.  But no, they enforce existing law, they don’t “figure things out”.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 10:10:45 am
So you don't know, you just don't like cops.

It's not my job to know, it's theirs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 10:11:55 am
Police salaries vary depending on the municipality.

Average Ottawa cop salary is like $93K.

Quote
But no, they enforce existing law, they don’t “figure things out”.  Sheesh.

Yes we know you love and support your jackbooted thugs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 10:15:39 am
So you don't know, you just don't like cops.
Good catch.  I believe that’s called prejudice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 10:17:52 am
Average Ottawa cop salary is like $93K.

Yes we know you love and support your jackbooted thugs.
Right, so not even in Ottawa is their average salary $100,000.  And believe it or not, not every city is the capital city of Canada!  In many cities, police earn much less.  Sorry to catch you in a lie.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 10:25:21 am
It's not my job to know, it's theirs.

They do know but you just didn't like it. They didn't give you an excuse to cry brutality.

Anyone who follows this forum knows you have a hate in for police.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 10:37:27 am
They do know but you just didn't like it. They didn't give you an excuse to cry brutality.

Anyone who follows this forum knows you have a hate in for police.
He’s your standard bigot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 10:37:36 am
Right, so not even in Ottawa is their average salary $100,000.  And believe it or not, not every city is the capital city of Canada!  In many cities, police earn much less.  Sorry to catch you in a lie.

who cares.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 10:37:54 am
They do know but you just didn't like it. They didn't give you an excuse to cry brutality.

Anyone who follows this forum knows you have a hate in for police.

Yes but you have the correlation and causation mixed up.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Boges on February 23, 2022, 10:43:07 am
It's shocking that people feel that they need to defend Pat King.

Perhaps, it's just too much internet for me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 10:50:47 am
who cares.
You seem to.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 11:00:12 am
You seem to.

I'm not the one nitpicking the exact salary of cops and ignoring the relevant points. but it is funny to see you rushing to kiss the ass of Trudeau's jackbooted thugs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 11:04:49 am
I'm not the one nitpicking the exact salary of cops and ignoring the relevant points. but it is funny to see you rushing to kiss the ass of Trudeau's jackbooted thugs.
They’re just following the orders of your favourite leader.  The one you kiss the ass of every day, no matter what he says or does.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 11:54:42 am
They’re just following the orders of your favourite leader.  The one you kiss the ass of every day, no matter what he says or does.

lol you love a strawman as much as you love whining.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 12:02:35 pm
lol you love a strawman as much as you love whining.
How is that a strawman?  Why do you criticize the police, but kiss the ass of the person who’s orders they’re following.  It’s nonsensical, at least for anyone that isn’t an anti-police bigot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 12:11:27 pm
How is that a strawman?  Why do you criticize the police, but kiss the ass of the person who’s orders they’re following.  It’s nonsensical, at least for anyone that isn’t an anti-police bigot.

That's the strawman. I'd invite you to find any instance of me genuinely praising a single thing Trudeau has done. this may blow your mind, such as it is, but one can be against the convoy **** and not support Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 12:26:49 pm
That's the strawman. I'd invite you to find any instance of me genuinely praising a single thing Trudeau has done. this may blow your mind, such as it is, but one can be against the convoy **** and not support Trudeau.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 23, 2022, 12:33:00 pm
That's the strawman. I'd invite you to find any instance of me genuinely praising a single thing Trudeau has done. 

The sad thing is all the leftists on here being forced to stand with state/police because the revolt here is so pointless and misguided :(

Of course, I'm a small-c conservative so I am helpful to everyone <3
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Boges on February 23, 2022, 12:36:15 pm
The sad thing is all the leftists on here being forced to stand with state/police because the revolt here is so pointless and misguided :(

Of course, I'm a small-c conservative so I am helpful to everyone <3

No such thing. You either stand with Pat King or you're a commie.  :P
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 12:47:38 pm
The sad thing is all the leftists on here being forced to stand with state/police because the revolt here is so pointless and misguided :(

Of course, I'm a small-c conservative so I am helpful to everyone <3
The sad thing as well is this was all unnecessary.  Protesters should have realized that most of not all mandates were ending or going to end soon, and the government should have realized the same thing from the direction every province was taking.  It ended up being a protest, and confrontation by the government for no real reason.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 23, 2022, 12:50:13 pm
No such thing. You either stand with Pat King or you're a commie.  :P

I am neither... Simply a right-wing/centre right NDP supporter.  By NDP supporter, I don't mean I want them to win - I mean I put my sign on the lawn, meet the candidates and root for a majority.

So... conservative, if that's not clear.  I'm not one to advocate for the nationalization of every business like some commie.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 01:51:41 pm
Yes but you have the correlation and causation mixed up.

Really? So you do have a history.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 02:05:05 pm
Really? So you do have a history.

The idea that one has to have personal experience with shitty cops instead of just having eyes and ears and a general awareness of the world is hilarious.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 02:21:45 pm
The idea that one has to have personal experience with shitty cops instead of just having eyes and ears and a general awareness of the world is hilarious.
What other groups do you stereotype based on the actions of a few?  Muslims?  You’re a straight up bigot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 02:41:56 pm
The idea that one has to have personal experience with shitty cops instead of just having eyes and ears and a general awareness of the world is hilarious.

So you are just talking through your ass.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 03:33:56 pm
What other groups do you stereotype based on the actions of a few?  Muslims?  You’re a straight up bigot.

Loooooolllllllllll imagine conflating cops with racial, ethnic or religious discrimination lmao
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 03:35:45 pm
Dictator Justin Hitler's reign of terror is over after a week.

Trudeau revokes Emergencies Act (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-trudeau-revokes-emergencies-act-1.5793047)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 03:41:37 pm
So you are just talking through your ass.

So, just as the only alternatives for police are apathy or brutality, people can only form opinions through direct personal experience? Absurd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 23, 2022, 03:55:49 pm
Dictator Justin Hitler's reign of terror is over after a week.

Trudeau revokes Emergencies Act (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-trudeau-revokes-emergencies-act-1.5793047)

How did we ever survive the gulags and the purging of dissent???
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 03:57:30 pm
Loooooolllllllllll imagine conflating cops with racial, ethnic or religious discrimination lmao
So you freely admit that you’re a bigot.  That you stereotype cops based on the actions of a few.  Which other groups do you do that with?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 04:25:36 pm
So you freely admit that you’re a bigot.  That you stereotype cops based on the actions of a few.  Which other groups do you do that with?  Just wondering.

Were you born stupid or did it take work to reach the heights (depths?) of stupidity you've achieved?

Like if you want to know my actual views on cops, go read the Defund the Police thread I started last year, you know, the one where you were recently posting a bunch of easily dismantled fake stuff about crime rates and defunding?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 05:14:26 pm
Were you born stupid or did it take work to reach the heights (depths?) of stupidity you've achieved?
You’re the very definition of a bigot.  Own it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 05:50:37 pm
You’re the very definition of a bigot.  Own it.

You're the very definition of retarded. Own it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 05:54:16 pm
You're the very definition of retarded. Own it.
What I am doesn’t change the fact that you’re a straight up bigot. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 05:57:39 pm
Were you born stupid or did it take work to reach the heights (depths?) of stupidity you've achieved?

Like if you want to know my actual views on cops, go read the Defund the Police thread I started last year, you know, the one where you were recently posting a bunch of easily dismantled fake stuff about crime rates and defunding?
The spike in crime is real you domestic chicken hawk.  Even Democrats have acknowledged that fact.  You continue to run away from the results of your disastrous policies.  Classic domestic chicken hawk.  Advocate policies that you know your community won’t adopt and which you won’t have to suffer the consequences of. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 06:02:24 pm
So, just as the only alternatives for police are apathy or brutality, people can only form opinions through direct personal experience? Absurd.

Not when someone has the kind of hate on you do. I'm convinced there is a history.

You still haven't said what the Ottawa PD should have done before they got reinforcements. Tow truck drivers refused to tow vehicles until the Act was invoked and the out numbered police couldn't have protected them properly anyway. A couple of dozen officers going in there to arrest people and getting swarmed by thousand protesters seems to be the kind of thing that turns your crank. No telling what nasty things you could have accused the officers of as they tried to fight their way out.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 06:14:33 pm
Dictator Justin Hitler's reign of terror is over after a week.

Trudeau revokes Emergencies Act (https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-trudeau-revokes-emergencies-act-1.5793047)
Because the senate was set to trigger and election over it.  Get out of your echo chamber asshat.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 23, 2022, 06:23:51 pm
Because the senate was set to trigger and election over it.  Get out of your echo chamber asshat.

LOL.  You are so incredibly stupid.  How would the Senate have “triggered an election”? 

Plus, even if it could, that would be a gift to the Libs with no opposition leader to run against!  The Libs win on the trucker issue every time.  You’re the fringe of society.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 23, 2022, 06:47:01 pm
Because the senate was set to trigger and election over it.  Get out of your echo chamber asshat.

Confidence votes are only held in the Commons and they are only confidence votes if the government says they are.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 23, 2022, 08:02:57 pm
The spike in crime is real you domestic chicken hawk.  Even Democrats have acknowledged that fact.  You continue to run away from the results of your disastrous policies.  Classic domestic chicken hawk.  Advocate policies that you know your community won’t adopt and which you won’t have to suffer the consequences of.

It's bad enough you're stupid, you're also repetitive and boring.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 08:04:45 pm
It's bad enough you're stupid, you're also repetitive and boring.
Well, you’re repetitive and a liar.  Oh and an anti-cop bigot.  Quite the resume you got there! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 23, 2022, 08:34:45 pm
Hey Shady!   Tell us again how the Senae was going to “trigger an election”! 

Hahahahahaha

Please explain, based on your vast knowledge of how governing happens in Canada! 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 23, 2022, 09:02:32 pm
Hey Shady!   Tell us again how the Senae was going to “trigger an election”! 

Hahahahahaha

Please explain, based on your vast knowledge of how governing happens in Canada!
Sorry, you’ve lost all privileges to discuss anything with me.  This will be the last time I acknowledge you in this forum.  Stop trying to talk to me, you’re worse than a creepy stalker. 🖕🖕🖕
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 24, 2022, 12:40:19 am
Well, you’re repetitive and a liar.  Oh and an anti-cop bigot.  Quite the resume you got there! 😂

"An anti-cop bigot"? From the guy who described police as "jackbooted thugs"? 'tis to chortle.

Anyway i'd rather be a full ACAB guy (which I am btw) than a mewling wiener who puffs themselves up as anti-authoritarian but at the end of the day can't resist the taste of boot. Lick it good you little twat.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 24, 2022, 12:41:58 am
Sorry, you’ve lost all privileges to discuss anything with me.  This will be the last time I acknowledge you in this forum.  Stop trying to talk to me, you’re worse than a creepy stalker. 🖕🖕🖕

Loser loses again. Do the right thing and deactivate your...account.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 24, 2022, 12:59:42 am
In this thread: the kings of Whattabout play Ultimate Whattaboutism.

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 24, 2022, 01:08:09 am
Hot take: the following are all true at the same time:

 -using the emergency act last week was the right thing to do.
 -ending the emergency act this week was the right thing to do.
 -using the emergency act wouldn't have been necessary at all if leaders at the civic and provincial level had stepped up when they should have.
 -Justin poured gasoline on a fire with his "blah blah blah fringe minority blah blah blah unacceptable views" bullshit.
 -federal Conservative Party members disgraced themselves by playing footsy with this occupation.
 -broad-brushing the protesters as Nazis and hate-filled extremists is just typical of the kind of divisive politics that put political expediency ahead of the national good.

CHANGE MY MIND

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on February 24, 2022, 01:46:19 am
Don’t feel sorry for me. Unlike the idiots ‘protesting’ I’m fully aware that we are not going to have mandates forever.


Oh gimme a break. As soon as the next variant arrives you're going to be the one yelling loudest for the government to close the schools and bars and restaurants.

Websites are already hyping up the next variant because you panic-**** addicts can't get enough of their clickbait. "BA.2 is twice as contagious as Omicron and twice as deadly as Delta. FIVE THINGS you need to know!"

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 08:17:01 am
"An anti-cop bigot"? From the guy who described police as "jackbooted thugs"? 'tis to chortle.

Anyway i'd rather be a full ACAB guy (which I am btw) than a mewling wiener who puffs themselves up as anti-authoritarian but at the end of the day can't resist the taste of boot. Lick it good you little twat.
Are all Muslims bastards too?  Bigot.  At least you’ve finally admitted that your a straight up bigot.  It’s progress!  It allows everyone to discount what you say because we know it comes from a place of prejudice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 24, 2022, 08:56:48 am
There should be a way to rate posts as Desperate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 09:03:54 am
There should be a way to rate posts as Desperate.
You sound like you’re on board with his bigotry as well. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 24, 2022, 09:14:50 am
I would never call Canadian police jackbooted thugs. Would you?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 09:41:23 am
I would never call Canadian police jackbooted thugs. Would you?
Only the ones given orders by the PM.  I would never stereotype an entire group based on the actions of a few.  But Black Dogg does and freely admits to his bigoted views.  I wonder what basis he uses to stereotype entire groups?  Hopefully he’ll let us know how he picks and chooses which groups are stereotyped and which aren’t.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 24, 2022, 09:51:45 am
Only the ones given orders by the PM. I would never stereotype an entire group based on the actions of a few.  But Black Dogg does and freely admits to his bigoted views.  I wonder what basis he uses to stereotype entire groups?  Hopefully he’ll let us know how he picks and chooses which groups are stereotyped and which aren’t.

So you're very particular about what flavour of boot you enjoy?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 10:20:41 am
So you're very particular about what flavour of boot you enjoy?
Which standard do you use to stereotype?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 24, 2022, 10:22:28 am

 -using the emergency act wouldn't have been necessary at all if leaders at the civic and provincial level had stepped up when they should have.
 
CHANGE MY MIND

 -k

Sort of.

Unlike every other city, Ottawa is a three headed monster when it comes to policing. The RCMP polices Parliament Hill. In the period before the Emergency Act was invoked, the feds were just as guilty of pointing fingers as anyone.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 24, 2022, 10:24:05 am
Which standard do you use to stereotype?

You and Black Dog are getting damn tiresome. Both of you find a school yard somewhere.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 10:26:18 am
You and Black Dog are getting damn tiresome. Both of you find a school yard somewhere.
I just want to know what standard he uses to decide which groups of people get stereotyped and which ones don’t.  I think that’s a reasonable request now that he’s admitted being a bigot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 24, 2022, 11:24:24 am
I just want to know what standard he uses to decide which groups of people get stereotyped and which ones don’t.  I think that’s a reasonable request now that he’s admitted being a bigot.

I would just like you two to stop cluttering up topics with your school yard bickering. It has made me stop reading all of your posts.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 11:29:41 am
I would just like you two to stop cluttering up topics with your school yard bickering. It has made me stop reading all of your posts.
I'm just following up on the questions about police that you asked of him.  Feel free to read or not, I couldn't care less what you do.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 11:58:30 am
What a bunch of a-holes!
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 24, 2022, 12:00:44 pm
What a bunch of a-holes!

Indeed (https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/threats-to-press-during-convoy-protests-a-wake-up-call-experts-say-1.5789466).

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In a video from Ottawa, a broadcaster stares at the camera in silence as protesters surround him and scream expletives, calling him a liar and bellowing "freedom."

Near the U.S. border in Surrey, B.C., a cameraman's equipment is shoved off his shoulder and two men spit on him. A demonstrator follows another journalist closely, yelling that he is a "disgusting, filthy human being," while police escort the reporter through a jeering crowd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 24, 2022, 12:27:34 pm
Yeah - the "these people are **** - here's a example" is not valid
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 24, 2022, 03:02:33 pm
I don’t venture out of my neighbourhood often because there is so much to do at my doorstep. Perhaps it’s because I live in a richy rich area but I have not had the misfortune of seeing convoy aholes given my neighbourhood’s lack of uneducated science hating nimwits.

My fortune ran out today however when I saw a pickup truck with a massive timber post and a Canadian flag on it. I was aghast. This is total #TrumpCult level jingoism.

I’m embarrassed for these idiots who can’t even protest without copying the American Taliban.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 03:05:40 pm
I don’t venture out of my neighbourhood often because there is so much to do at my doorstep. Perhaps it’s because I live in a richy rich area but I have not had the misfortune of seeing convoy aholes given my neighbourhood’s lack of uneducated science hating nimwits.

My fortune ran out today however when I saw a pickup truck with a massive timber post and a Canadian flag on it. I was aghast. This is total #TrumpCult level jingoism.

I’m embarrassed for these idiots who can’t even protest without copying the American Taliban.
Omg you saw a truck!?  You poor thing!  Sending thoughts and prayers!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 24, 2022, 03:11:03 pm
Shady’s obtuseness demonstrates perfectly why he is such a mark for Cult 45.

He’s probably one of the idiots we see on the news blathering about his first amendment rights.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 03:15:56 pm
Shady’s obtuseness demonstrates perfectly why he is such a mark for Cult 45.

He’s probably one of the idiots we see on the news blathering about his first amendment rights.
Look, I’m sorry you were triggered by seeing a truck.  I hope you’re legitimately ok.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 24, 2022, 03:20:55 pm
Look, I’m sorry you were triggered by seeing a truck.  I hope you’re legitimately ok.

I was ‘triggered’ seeing American Taliban jingoism in Canada. That’s a huge cause for concern. This is January 6 mentality your buddies are copying.

But sure, keep playing (being?) a complete dumb dumb.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 03:26:46 pm
I was ‘triggered’ seeing American Taliban jingoism in Canada. That’s a huge cause for concern. This is January 6 mentality your buddies are copying.

But sure, keep playing (being?) a complete dumb dumb.
Yes driving around in a truck is Taliban mentality.  Sheesh.  Your hyperbole is absurd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 24, 2022, 03:28:12 pm
I don’t venture out of my neighbourhood often because there is so much to do at my doorstep. Perhaps it’s because I live in a richy rich area but I have not had the misfortune of seeing convoy aholes given my neighbourhood’s lack of uneducated science hating nimwits.

My fortune ran out today however when I saw a pickup truck with a massive timber post and a Canadian flag on it. I was aghast. This is total #TrumpCult level jingoism.

I’m embarrassed for these idiots who can’t even protest without copying the American Taliban.

Trucks with Canadian flags are dangerous to our democracy and must be stopped at all cost.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 24, 2022, 03:29:29 pm
I was ‘triggered’ seeing American Taliban jingoism in Canada. That’s a huge cause for concern. This is January 6 mentality your buddies are copying.

But sure, keep playing (being?) a complete dumb dumb.

Trucks with flags stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 24, 2022, 03:48:50 pm
I'm just following up on the questions about police that you asked of him.  Feel free to read or not, I couldn't care less what you do.

The two of you are acting like six year olds.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 24, 2022, 03:53:14 pm
The two of you are acting like six year olds.
He admitted to being a bigot.  I think that’s kind of important.  I guess we can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 24, 2022, 03:54:00 pm
He admitted to being a bigot.  I think that’s kind of important.  I guess we can agree to disagree.
Fine. Give it a rest FFS.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 24, 2022, 03:57:28 pm
Trucks with Canadian flags are dangerous to our democracy and must be stopped at all cost.

American Taliban drive around with flags in their pickup trucks. That is why they are mockingly called the American Taliban because actual Taliban (and ISIS) do the same.

I have never seen Canadian flags in pickup trucks anywhere in Vancouver (or Toronto or Montreal though both of those were years ago).

Some Canadians are copying a jingoistic mentality that has led to extremism throughout the world.

Luckily we have a lot of immigrants from you know, actually tyrannical  countries, so we are less likely to equate masks and vaccines with ‘oppression’.

It’s still concerning though when the only ones parading flags in trucks  and celebrating ignorance are Trumpies, ISIS and Taliban.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 24, 2022, 08:21:46 pm
American Taliban drive around with flags in their pickup trucks. That is why they are mockingly called the American Taliban because actual Taliban (and ISIS) do the same.

I have never seen Canadian flags in pickup trucks anywhere in Vancouver (or Toronto or Montreal though both of those were years ago).

Some Canadians are copying a jingoistic mentality that has led to extremism throughout the world.

Luckily we have a lot of immigrants from you know, actually tyrannical  countries, so we are less likely to equate masks and vaccines with ‘oppression’.

It’s still concerning though when the only ones parading flags in trucks  and celebrating ignorance are Trumpies, ISIS and Taliban.

Kinda ruins the flag for me TBH.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 10:48:18 am
If the convoy protesters care about freedom and resisting authoritarianism they should ship off to fight the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 11:07:40 am
If the convoy protesters care about freedom and resisting authoritarianism they should ship off to fight the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Non-sequitur. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 11:15:47 am
Non-sequitur.

True. Back to the topic at hand, though, I noticed you're suddenly not talking about the federal government's authority to mandate vaccines to employees in federally regulated sectors; what's up with that?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 11:20:46 am
True. Back to the topic at hand, though, I noticed you're suddenly not talking about the federal government's authority to mandate vaccines to employees in federally regulated sectors; what's up with that?
Because they don’t.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 11:36:35 am
Because they don’t.

And yet. (https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/what-is-canada-s-legal-system-saying-about-workplace-vaccine-mandates-1.5770046)

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 12:03:10 pm
And yet. (https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/what-is-canada-s-legal-system-saying-about-workplace-vaccine-mandates-1.5770046)
Yes, I’ve been saying all along that businesses have more authority to issue their own mandates.  Are you still stuck in the difference between government vs private?  The truckers and trucking companies are not employees of the government.  They have no workplace authority.  They’re authority resides in regulating the industry, in terms of weights of trucks, inspection of vehicles and product etc.  It doesn’t include the private medical decisions of drivers who are not employed by them.[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 12:31:12 pm
Yes, I’ve been saying all along that businesses have more authority to issue their own mandates.  Are you still stuck in the difference between government vs private?  The truckers and trucking companies are not employees of the government.  They have no workplace authority.  They’re authority resides in regulating the industry, in terms of weights of trucks, inspection of vehicles and product etc.  It doesn’t include the private medical decisions of drivers who are not employed by them.

First, no one is talking about private mandates, but if we were, it should be noted that private employers cannot mandate employee vaccinations. Second, the federal government has the authority under the Canada Labour Code to set workplace health and safety standards, so you're wrong there too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 12:35:02 pm
First, no one is talking about private mandates, but if we were, it should be noted that private employers cannot mandate employee vaccinations. Second, the federal government has the authority under the Canada Labour Code to set workplace health and safety standards, so you're wrong there too.
That’s incorrect.  It hasn’t been challenged yet in Canada, but it has elsewhere, and those particular federal governments relying on the same workplace health argument lost in court.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 12:45:04 pm
That’s incorrect.  It hasn’t been challenged yet in Canada, but it has elsewhere, and those particular federal governments relying on the same workplace health argument lost in court.

In other words: the government has the authority until proven otherwise, which hasn't happened. And what other countries have done is totally irrelevant.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 01:00:02 pm
In other words: the government has the authority until proven otherwise, which hasn't happened. And what other countries have done is totally irrelevant.
That’s not suppose to be how it works.  People are supposed to retain their rights until the government makes their case.  But covid has turned most societies ass backwards.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 01:10:03 pm
That’s not suppose to be how it works. People are supposed to retain their rights until the government makes their case.  But covid has turned most societies ass backwards.

Now you're just retreating into abstractions because you can't actually prove that the federal government doesn't have the authority to mandate vaccines in industries it regulates, just as it mandates various other workplace health and safety practices.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 01:24:13 pm
Now you're just retreating into abstractions because you can't actually prove that the federal government doesn't have the authority to mandate vaccines in industries it regulates, just as it mandates various other workplace health and safety practices.
The charter and the constitution aren’t abstract.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 25, 2022, 01:24:23 pm
Are we still talking about this ?  That's so Tuesday...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 01:28:51 pm
Are we still talking about this ?  That's so Tuesday...
Good point.  It’s pretty much irrelevant at this point.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 01:31:36 pm
The charter and the constitution aren’t abstract.

There's nothing in the Charter about the government not being able to pass and enforce OH&S rules.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 25, 2022, 01:34:39 pm
There's nothing in the Charter about the government not being able to pass and enforce OH&S rules.
There is when those rules infringe on constitutionally protected rights. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 25, 2022, 01:39:37 pm
There is when those rules infringe on constitutionally protected rights.

Y'all always seem to forget this part despite it being at the very top of the page:

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The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 25, 2022, 02:03:35 pm
There is when those rules infringe on constitutionally protected rights.

Workers have a right to a safe workplace.  So far, all challenges have upheld mandates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 25, 2022, 02:37:38 pm
alt-Right white supremacist Pat King says he's not 'walkin' away from this (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1494071571044048896/pu/vid/720x1280/pLqKaIVpsY2v8M-A.mp4?tag=12)... but as he's a self-proclaimed investigative journalist, he's got some investigatin' to do in New Brunswick! Again, not walkin' away, says freedumFighter Pat!
whaaa! Pat King arrested - FB livestreamed! (https://www.facebook.com/therealpatking/videos/681146579910843/) Praise Jebus!

'Freedom Convoy' leader Pat King denied bail, remains in jail (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/pat-king-jail-bail-hearing-1.6363724) --- King remains in jail due to 'likelihood' to reoffend and justice's dissatisfaction with surety
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 27, 2022, 12:37:32 am
Y'all always seem to forget this part despite it being at the very top of the page:

Charter not worth the paper its written on, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 27, 2022, 08:15:27 am
 :'(
Charter not worth the paper its written on, unfortunately.

Of course it is. The Emergency Act may give police more power to arrest but that’s all. Once a person is in the court system their Charter rights are in full effect, the Act doesn’t change that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 27, 2022, 10:08:54 am
:'(
Of course it is. The Emergency Act may give police more power to arrest but that’s all. Once a person is in the court system their Charter rights are in full effect, the Act doesn’t change that.
The Emergency Act wasn’t required to arrest people.  It was required to freeze anyone’s bank account without a court order though.  Hence, the violation of rights.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 27, 2022, 02:04:26 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/V6i4h5f.jpg)

freedom fighters, hey! Posers versus the realDeal...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 27, 2022, 02:38:33 pm
as much as Conservatives now want to shift the narrative, there are many, many photos of CPC MPs (including the self-coronated Prime Minister Poilievre) throwing their support behind the "Freedum Convoy". And now we have a trip down memory lane video circulating of CPC leader Scheer & the infamous Pat King in 2019's 'United We Roll' protest convoy - that enthusiastic Conservative CPC embrace of the pro-pipeline convoy on Parliament Hill; one that prominently included racist and anti-immigrant elements! Why even skippy is in the video background! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1485329644433858560/pu/vid/478x852/Ue1pgizkPEtdShY3.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 27, 2022, 04:22:23 pm
:'(
Of course it is. The Emergency Act may give police more power to arrest but that’s all. Once a person is in the court system their Charter rights are in full effect, the Act doesn’t change that.

The Charter has an opt-out clause in Section 1 where governments can override Charter Rights if the SCC goes along with it.  The clause is so vague as to make it meaningless.  "1 The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.".  WTF does "free and democratic society" mean"?  WTF is "reasonable limits"?  It could mean whatever the interpreter (judge) wishes.

In 1986 the SCC created the Oakes Test for Section 1:

"The Oakes test was created by the Supreme Court of Canada in the 1986 case of R v Oakes.[1]...This means that the government must establish that the benefits of a law outweigh its negative impact—that is, its violation of a Charter right."

https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca/2019/07/oakes-test/

Section 33 in the Charter also has the "notwithstanding" clause, meaning Parliament or provinces can do whatever the heck they want.  Quebec has used the clause to ban certain public workers from wearing religious symbols, and used it to restrict business signs written in English in the province.  These are very clear violations of the Charter.  The Charter doesn't guarantee anything.  This is the only way Trudeau Sr. could convince enough provinces to sign off on the Charter.  New Brunswick even put it in a bill in 2019 to force mandatory vaccines for school children and pre-emptively prevent any court challenges:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_33_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Quebec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_33_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Mandatory_vaccinations_(2019)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 27, 2022, 06:39:46 pm
The Charter has an opt-out clause in Section 1 where governments can override Charter Rights if the SCC goes along with it.  The clause is so vague as to make it meaningless.  "1 The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.".  WTF does "free and democratic society" mean"?  WTF is "reasonable limits"?  It could mean whatever the interpreter (judge) wishes.

In 1986 the SCC created the Oakes Test for Section 1:

"The Oakes test was created by the Supreme Court of Canada in the 1986 case of R v Oakes.[1]...This means that the government must establish that the benefits of a law outweigh its negative impact—that is, its violation of a Charter right."


https://www.constitutionalstudies.ca/2019/07/oakes-test/

Section 33 in the Charter also has the "notwithstanding" clause, meaning Parliament or provinces can do whatever the heck they want.  Quebec has used the clause to ban certain public workers from wearing religious symbols, and used it to restrict business signs written in English in the province.  These are very clear violations of the Charter.  The Charter doesn't guarantee anything.  This is the only way Trudeau Sr. could convince enough provinces to sign off on the Charter.  New Brunswick even put it in a bill in 2019 to force mandatory vaccines for school children and pre-emptively prevent any court challenges:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_33_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Quebec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_33_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Mandatory_vaccinations_(2019)

Ottawa has never used the notwithstanding clause. Ever.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 27, 2022, 06:55:17 pm
Ottawa has never used the notwithstanding clause. Ever.

Well they've used the reasonable limits clause.  ie: Hate speech.  You have freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression...except for this and that!

They also limited freedom of assembly under the Emergencies Act.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 28, 2022, 04:39:03 pm
Well they've used the reasonable limits clause.  ie: Hate speech.  You have freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression...except for this and that!

They also limited freedom of assembly under the Emergencies Act.

You think rights should never be limited?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 28, 2022, 07:19:05 pm
Kinda ruins the flag for me TBH.

I still love the flag but it enrages me that they are trying to 'own' patriotism. It's another copy cat move from the the seditionists in the US.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 28, 2022, 07:51:39 pm
I still love the flag but it enrages me that they are trying to 'own' patriotism. It's another copy cat move from the the seditionists in the US.

How do they try to own patriotism?  That makes no sense.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 28, 2022, 09:08:04 pm
How do they try to own patriotism?  That makes no sense.

Patriot movement is a far-right movement in the US that started in the 90's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_movement

Trump calls his supporters patriots. When he was going to start a new party, it was the Patriot Party. We see this douchebaggery with the giant flags on pickup trucks which post 2016 started including Trump flags.

You and Shady want to play dumb but the convoy movement, with its roots in right wing America, adopted a lot of the symbolisms, including the massive flags in pickup trucks.

Maybe you're not playing dumb, who knows, maybe you really are dumb but for decades now right wingers are trying to hijack the term 'patriots' and one of the manifestations is flags, particularly flags in the back of pickup trucks.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 28, 2022, 09:31:30 pm
Patriot movement is a far-right movement in the US that started in the 90's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_movement

Trump calls his supporters patriots. When he was going to start a new party, it was the Patriot Party. We see this douchebaggery with the giant flags on pickup trucks which post 2016 started including Trump flags.

You and Shady want to play dumb but the convoy movement, with its roots in right wing America, adopted a lot of the symbolisms, including the massive flags in pickup trucks.

Maybe you're not playing dumb, who knows, maybe you really are dumb but for decades now right wingers are trying to hijack the term 'patriots' and one of the manifestations is flags, particularly flags in the back of pickup trucks.

What's the difference between being a part of this "patriot movement" and just being a patriot?  I guess i've never heard of this "patriot movement".  I don't really follow right-wing or far-right movements.

I don't really see any harm in calling yourself a patriot and driving around in a pickup truck while playing a flag.  It's just a guy in a truck and a Canadian flag, I don't think it's anything to worry about.  I haven't even seen any of these "American Taliban" you're talking about.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: BC_cheque on February 28, 2022, 11:19:12 pm
What's the difference between being a part of this "patriot movement" and just being a patriot?  I guess i've never heard of this "patriot movement".  I don't really follow right-wing or far-right movements.

I don't really see any harm in calling yourself a patriot and driving around in a pickup truck while playing a flag.  It's just a guy in a truck and a Canadian flag, I don't think it's anything to worry about.  I haven't even seen any of these "American Taliban" you're talking about.

I follow more American politics than I'd like because of my twitter account. This is a real phenomenon which may have started with the far right but has now permeated pretty all centre-right politics. They right have fully hijacked the term patriot, fly their flags on their trucks as they go on parades through town (not much differently than the Taliban do which is where the nickname comes from). 

These are the same people who by and large believe Joe Biden stole the election. People with little over 50% covid vaccination rate. People who still support a man that incited a violent breach of the capitol.

Definitely not the mentality that I like seeing making its way into our country. I saw a second truck today btw with the flags and flipped him the bird.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on March 01, 2022, 01:13:30 am
 
How do they try to own patriotism?  That makes no sense.
By disowning others deemed unworthy of the mantle they've assumed. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on March 01, 2022, 01:19:28 am
What's the difference between being a part of this "patriot movement" and just being a patriot?  I guess i've never heard of this "patriot movement".  I don't really follow right-wing or far-right movements.
I think the defining characteristics of the 'patriot movement' are over-the-top displays, a very narrow focus on what is "patriotic", and show complete and utter hypocrisy, combined with an overall (and possibly willful) ignorance.

Take for example Stubby McBonespurs... literally humps the American flag, yet makes the U.S. subservient to Russia. The same can be said for the garden variety MAGAchud, who loved to wave American flags, but also showed the confederate flag (ummm... they do know that the confederates were traitors, right?), and excuse terrorist actions on January 6 as "no big thing".
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I don't really see any harm in calling yourself a patriot and driving around in a pickup truck while playing a flag.  It's just a guy in a truck and a Canadian flag, I don't think it's anything to worry about.
A decade ago, it would probably be no problem to be seen with a flag attached to your truck. But, things are different now. The symbols of patriotism are being co-opted by the alt-right.
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I haven't even seen any of these "American Taliban" you're talking about.
In the U.S. the "American Taliban" are everywhere.  They are the MAGAchud that stormed the U.S. capitol in order to impose an autocratic unelected leader. They are the right-wing evangelicals who were in a moral panic when Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair, but have no real issue with a president who bangs a **** star when he has a newborn at home. They are the ones ginning up outrage over the "war on christmas". They are politicians like Margorie Taylor Greene, who checks off all the evangelical christian demands (anti-abortion/anti-lgbtq) and also supports open racists.

The problem has not yet reached the same level in Canada as it has in the U.S., but the trucker rally (along with the conservative party's reaction to it) show that we could be facing similar problems (although probably at a reduced scale).
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 01, 2022, 05:17:40 am
The problem, as you describe it, isn't here because of our mediascape.  IMO.

They have no CBC, we have no FOX.

It's their number one news, and keeps the rhythm going that the Democrats are unreasonable.  CNN now does it on the other side.

There's no actual politics covered, it's all angertainment.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 09:37:16 am
The Charter has an opt-out clause in Section 1 where governments can override Charter Rights if the SCC goes along with it.  The clause is so vague as to make it meaningless.  "1 The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.".  WTF does "free and democratic society" mean"?  WTF is "reasonable limits"?  It could mean whatever the interpreter (judge) wishes.

How is that different from any other law in any other country?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 09:39:46 am
What's the difference between being a part of this "patriot movement" and just being a patriot?  I guess i've never heard of this "patriot movement".  I don't really follow right-wing or far-right movements.

I don't really see any harm in calling yourself a patriot and driving around in a pickup truck while playing a flag.  It's just a guy in a truck and a Canadian flag, I don't think it's anything to worry about.  I haven't even seen any of these "American Taliban" you're talking about.

See, there's your trouble right here, you aren't actually familiar with the phenomenon people are talking about.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 09:42:09 am
The term American Taliban is given to anyone that disagrees with Branch Covidian policy, and Dear Leader Trudeau.  It has no meaning.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on March 01, 2022, 09:53:01 am
The term American Taliban is given to anyone that disagrees with Branch Covidian policy, and Dear Leader Trudeau.  It has no meaning.
I bet you can't provide one example.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 10:39:42 am
The term American Taliban is given to anyone that disagrees with Branch Covidian policy, and Dear Leader Trudeau.  It has no meaning.

"This term, which doesn't mean what I think it means, has no meaning."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 11:08:14 am
"This term, which doesn't mean what I think it means, has no meaning."
Besides, the real American Taliban are progressives.  They’re the ones banning everything and toppling statues.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on March 01, 2022, 11:16:56 am
Not even one? Wow. That's weak.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 11:18:52 am
Not even one? Wow. That's weak.
Go tear down a statue you don’t like. 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 11:28:52 am
Besides, the real American Taliban are progressives.  They’re the ones banning everything and toppling statues.

Pure projection. Republicans are banning schools from teaching history or even acknowledging the existence of LGBTQ people, banning books, setting up snitch lines to report parents of trans kids and turning citizens into anti-abortion vigilantes etc etc etc. Own your ****.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 11:29:15 am
Go tear down a statue you don’t like. 😂

oh no won't someone think of the poor statues of dead racists
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 11:39:03 am
Pure projection. Republicans are banning schools from teaching history or even acknowledging the existence of LGBTQ people, banning books, setting up snitch lines to report parents of trans kids and turning citizens into anti-abortion vigilantes etc etc etc. Own your ****.
Complete nonsense.  Republicans are banning the teaching of the 1619 project which is fake history written by a far left activist.  They’ve also banning teaching kids that they’re racist based on the colour of their skin.  They’ve also banned the lefts ridiculous notion that biological sex doesn’t exist.  Regardless, snitch lines sound like the stuff you Branch Covidians set up turning citizens into the covid police.  Turning in their neighbors for having too many guests!  Go tear don’t a statue you don’t own and don’t like.  How about Abraham Lincoln?  That’s the most recent target of libtards like yourself.  You ARE American Taliban.  Who you trying to ban or cancel this week?  Rogan?  Peterson? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 12:14:17 pm
Complete nonsense.  Republicans are banning the teaching of the 1619 project which is fake history written by a far left activist.  They’ve also banning teaching kids that they’re racist based on the colour of their skin.  They’ve also banned the lefts ridiculous notion that biological sex doesn’t exist.

See? You love banning stuff so much you have to make up all these fake reasons to ban things!

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Regardless, snitch lines sound like the stuff you Branch Covidians set up turning citizens into the covid police.  Turning in their neighbors for having too many guests!

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Go tear don’t a statue you don’t own and don’t like.  How about Abraham Lincoln?  That’s the most recent target of libtards like yourself.  You ARE American Taliban.  Who you trying to ban or cancel this week?  Rogan?  Peterson?

so much seethe lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 12:22:20 pm
See? You love banning stuff!

whataboutwhataboutwhatabout

so much seethe lol.
Fake history is even banned in Canada.  Regardless, why don’t you tear down another statue, Canadian Taliban?  Keep forcing people to wear face coverings while you’re at it.  Oh, and keep trying to prevent speakers from speaking at universities and colleges. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 12:25:16 pm
Fake history is even banned in Canada.  Regardless, why don’t you tear down another statue, Canadian Taliban?  Keep forcing people to wear face coverings while you’re at it.  Oh, and keep trying to prevent speakers from speaking at universities and colleges.

You think a few misguided college kids are worse than actual governments using the power of the state to restrict free expression. You're an idiot.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 02:03:55 pm
You think a few misguided college kids are worse than actual governments using the power of the state to restrict free expression. You're an idiot.

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Still can’t stand the taste of your own medicine eh snowflake?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 02:10:13 pm
Still can’t stand the taste of your own medicine eh snowflake?

Yeah we already know you don't have any real principles or original ideas, but it's good of you to admit it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 02:35:31 pm
Yeah we already know you don't have any real principles or original ideas, but it's good of you to admit it.
Is this another example of the black dog double standard?  Call somebody else the Taliban while promoting Taliban-like activity.  Classic! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 02:53:24 pm
Is this another example of the black dog double standard? Call somebody else the Taliban while promoting Taliban-like activity.  Classic! 😂

Literally what you're doing here but you're too dumb to recognize it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 01, 2022, 02:57:35 pm
Maybe u2 should STFU?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 01, 2022, 02:58:45 pm
Maybe u2 should STFU?
no u
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 01, 2022, 03:01:41 pm
Maybe u2 should STFU?
I’ll try not to indulge in his ridiculousness.  It’s just funny that somebody who advocates for tearing down statutes and cancelling/banning people, calls other people the Taliban.  It’s quite rich.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 02, 2022, 09:54:56 am
I’ll try not to indulge in his ridiculousness.  It’s just funny that somebody who advocates for tearing down statutes and cancelling/banning people, calls other people the Taliban.  It’s quite rich.

Just a perfect distillation of how superficial your thinking is; an inch deep and an inch wide. The Taliban, above all else, are conservatives.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on March 03, 2022, 01:47:21 am
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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 11, 2022, 07:22:48 pm
CBC pushed literal propaganda.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 15, 2022, 07:55:03 am
Need a link but there was indeed bad information out there that Trumpists were funding this.   

Canadaland has been doing a good job of getting the facts and showing where everybody is wrong...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 15, 2022, 09:53:07 am
Need a link but there was indeed bad information out there that Trumpists were funding this.   

Canadaland has been doing a good job of getting the facts and showing where everybody is wrong...

The thing is the Go Fund me was largely Canadian, but when that got shut down and the movement picked up more attention, lots of American dollars flowed in through GiveSendGo, with nearly half of that campaign money coming from the U.S.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on March 15, 2022, 12:08:47 pm
Need a link but there was indeed bad information out there that Trumpists were funding this.   

Canadaland has been doing a good job of getting the facts and showing where everybody is wrong...
Rule 1 in this forum should be: Never trust shady and his tendency to post memes.

The meme stated: "CBC deletes story falsely claiming foreign money behind trucker rally". It gives a totally incorrect impression that the trucker rally was an "all-canada" thing.

Lets look at some facts, shall we?

- The CBC still has stories on line pointing to foreign funding of the trucker convoy. See: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-vaccine-ottawa-1.6345889
- Other (non CBC) sources have also pointed to the fact that many of the donations have come from outside Canada. For example, see: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/gofundme-head-testifies-over-freedom-convoy-fundraising-says-most-donors-were-canadian-1.5804094
- GoFundMe (i.e. the Original company that was behind the collections) has stated that > 10% of the money came from outside Canada. Now is that "foreign funding"? Well, its not the total amount, but it still totals hundreds of thousands of dollars.... a pretty significant amount of cash. (And, as another poster stated, that amount has increased greatly when they changed to GiveSendGo.)

So foreign money WAS behind the rally.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 15, 2022, 12:12:52 pm
1. - The CBC still has stories on line pointing to foreign funding of the trucker convoy. See: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-vaccine-ottawa-1.6345889
- Other (non CBC) sources have also pointed to the fact that many of the donations have come from outside Canada. For example, see: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/gofundme-head-testifies-over-freedom-convoy-fundraising-says-most-donors-were-canadian-1.5804094
- GoFundMe (i.e. the Original company that was behind the collections) has stated that > 10% of the money came from outside Canada. Now is that "foreign funding"? Well, its not the total amount, but it still totals hundreds of thousands of dollars.... a pretty significant amount of cash. (And, as another poster stated, that amount has increased greatly when they changed to GiveSendGo.)

2. So foreign money WAS behind the rally.
1. I heard this on Canadaland which has gone after misstatements by the Convoy Folks (which are super obvious) and the sneakier ones from the Government and Police
2. Not as much as Canadian though.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on March 15, 2022, 12:24:47 pm
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2. So foreign money WAS behind the rally.
2. Not as much as Canadian though.
But shady's meme did not attempt to make any distinction... it stated "cbc deletes story about foreign funding" (paraphrased). It gave the false impression that "all stories about foreign funding were wrong", when the truth is a lot more nuanced.

Now, initial figures were that >10% were from foreign sources. Is that "a lot"? Well, if you were offered a 10% pay raise, most people would consider it a pretty significant increase.

Oh, and by the way, from: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/american-donors-to-trucker-convoy-may-be-outnumbering-canadians-ctv-news-analysis-1.5775986
CTV News counted those who declared their location or made it clear what country they were from — about 10 per cent...Canadian donations accounted for about 36 per cent of the money gained...But dwarfing them all were donations from those who said they were in the United States — about 52 per cent of identifiable donations.


Granted, the anonymous nature of the donations makes it difficult to verify the location of many of the donors.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 15, 2022, 12:25:03 pm
1. I heard this on Canadaland which has gone after misstatements by the Convoy Folks (which are super obvious) and the sneakier ones from the Government and Police
2. Not as much as Canadian though.

Canadaland seems to be exaggerating or lying about the cbc story being pulled.  Maybe they should read less rightwing fringe “media”. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 15, 2022, 12:26:24 pm
Canadaland seems to be exaggerating or lying about the cbc story being pulled.  Maybe they should read less rightwing fringe “media”.

I don't think that the meme came from them.  I was speaking generally.  Language that referred to this as a 'fringe' and marginalizing it was tweaked a little much.  There was much 'sympathy' with them but not exactly 'support'.

Rather than taking sides, Canadaland painted this as the complex politics it was.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on March 15, 2022, 06:29:35 pm
Canadaland seems to be exaggerating or lying about the cbc story being pulled.  Maybe they should read less rightwing fringe “media”.
A few things to keep in mind....

1) I have never listened to Canadaland. But, according to mediabiasfactcheck (a site that I think is fairly reputable) they are listed as left-of-center, and a relatively high level of factual reporting. It may be "fringe" but it probably isn't an alt-right source. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/canadaland/

2) We have no idea where shady got his meme from. (I suspect he reads a lot of neo-nazi sites.) Most likely is that someone on the far right stumbled across the information, striped out most of the pertinent facts and remove relevant context, and posted it on a neo-nazi site for shady to download

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on March 17, 2022, 01:41:44 am
American Taliban drive around with flags in their pickup trucks. That is why they are mockingly called the American Taliban because actual Taliban (and ISIS) do the same.

I have never seen Canadian flags in pickup trucks anywhere in Vancouver (or Toronto or Montreal though both of those were years ago).

Some Canadians are copying a jingoistic mentality that has led to extremism throughout the world.

Luckily we have a lot of immigrants from you know, actually tyrannical  countries, so we are less likely to equate masks and vaccines with ‘oppression’.

It’s still concerning though when the only ones parading flags in trucks  and celebrating ignorance are Trumpies, ISIS and Taliban.

This is completely inane.

The phrase "the American Taliban" has been used by the online atheist community for years to describe Christian Dominionists in the US-- Christians (usually Evangelicals) who keep trying to sneak religious elements into law and politics. It refers to their theocratic world view and has nothing to do with flags or trucks.

It seems to me that many of the people pouting that the anti-mandate mob have appropriated the Canadian flag are the same people who spent most of 2021 complaining that the Canadian flag is a blood-soaked symbol of colonialist violence that should be flown at half-mast or upside-down or not at all.  How many of the people who were ashamed of our flag last year are the same people now upset that the anti-mandate people are flying it from their vehicles?

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on March 17, 2022, 01:46:56 am
I was ‘triggered’ seeing American Taliban jingoism in Canada. That’s a huge cause for concern. This is January 6 mentality your buddies are copying.

But sure, keep playing (being?) a complete dumb dumb.

Trucks with flags driving around Vancouver is the slippery slope to January 6.

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on March 17, 2022, 09:40:31 am
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American Taliban drive around with flags in their pickup trucks. That is why they are mockingly called the American Taliban because actual Taliban (and ISIS) do the same.
This is completely inane.

The phrase "the American Taliban" has been used by the online atheist community for years to describe Christian Dominionists in the US-- Christians (usually Evangelicals) who keep trying to sneak religious elements into law and politics. It refers to their theocratic world view and has nothing to do with flags or trucks.
Even if the origin of the phrase "American Taliban" was from secular people pushing back against the overreach of evangelicals, I think it could be argued that there is enough of an overlap between super-ultra-mega christians and the flag-waving anti-vax protesters that the label probably applies. Similar demographics, similar preference for right-wing authoritarianism in a cloak of "nationalism", same detachment from facts and reality.

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It seems to me that many of the people pouting that the anti-mandate mob have appropriated the Canadian flag are the same people who spent most of 2021 complaining that the Canadian flag is a blood-soaked symbol of colonialist violence...
How many is 'many'? I'm sure there are plenty of people who DON'T label the Canadian flag as 'blood soaked' who are disgusted by the flag-waving of the trucker convoy.

And even if someone did consider the flag as a "blood soaked symbol", that doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong to point out the problem of the truckers wrapping themselves in the flag.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2022, 10:40:11 am
This is completely inane.

The phrase "the American Taliban" has been used by the online atheist community for years to describe Christian Dominionists in the US-- Christians (usually Evangelicals) who keep trying to sneak religious elements into law and politics. It refers to their theocratic world view and has nothing to do with flags or trucks.

It seems to me that many of the people pouting that the anti-mandate mob have appropriated the Canadian flag are the same people who spent most of 2021 complaining that the Canadian flag is a blood-soaked symbol of colonialist violence that should be flown at half-mast or upside-down or not at all.  How many of the people who were ashamed of our flag last year are the same people now upset that the anti-mandate people are flying it from their vehicles?

 -k

This is completely inane. You don't have to have strong feelings or love for the flag and the nation it represents to understand the significance of its appropriation by right-wing nationalists.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 17, 2022, 10:46:57 am
This is completely inane. You don't have to have strong feelings or love for the flag and the nation it represents to understand the significance of its appropriation by right-wing nationalists.

I dunno.  kimmy's post is making me wonder what I think about the flag.

I don't like it being brandished as an aggressive 'f you' to ... I don't know ... doctors ?  Liberals ?  Easterners ?  People who can read ?

I think it represents our nation and all of its problems. 

Am I proud of it ?  I feel like I am part of it, and my feelings of love don't always include 'pride'.  Same as when someone I love does something that is not a good representation of their character.

And I don't think we should exactly look for 'logic' in these things, because we're talking about symbols that represent emotions. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 17, 2022, 10:47:28 am
This is completely inane.

The phrase "the American Taliban" has been used by the online atheist community for years to describe Christian Dominionists in the US-- Christians (usually Evangelicals) who keep trying to sneak religious elements into law and politics. It refers to their theocratic world view and has nothing to do with flags or trucks.
Even if the origin of the phrase "American Taliban" was from secular people pushing back against the overreach of evangelicals, I think it could be argued that there is enough of an overlap between super-ultra-mega christians and the flag-waving anti-vax protesters that the label probably applies. Similar demographics, similar preference for right-wing authoritarianism in a cloak of "nationalism", same detachment from facts and reality.
How many is 'many'? I'm sure there are plenty of people who DON'T label the Canadian flag as 'blood soaked' who are disgusted by the flag-waving of the trucker convoy.

And even if someone did consider the flag as a "blood soaked symbol", that doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong to point out the problem of the truckers wrapping themselves in the flag.
It's funny when the side that tears down statues calls other people the Taliban.  LOL.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2022, 10:50:34 am
It's funny when the side that tears down statues calls other people the Taliban.  LOL.

The fact you can't tell the difference between tearing down statues glorifying dead racists and destroying ancient artifacts of historical and cultural significance says everything about you and the vat of human waste sloshing around inside your skull where your brain should be.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 17, 2022, 10:56:41 am
The fact you can't tell the difference between tearing down statues glorifying dead racists and destroying ancient artifacts of historical and cultural significance says everything about you and the vat of human waste sloshing around inside your skull where your brain should be.
But many of the statues that were destroyed weren't of racists.  Regardless, even if that was the case, nobody has a right to destroy property that doesn't belong to them.  There's a process for removing statues.  You are the North American Taliban.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2022, 11:08:30 am
But many of the statues that were destroyed weren't of racists.  Regardless, even if that was the case, nobody has a right to destroy property that doesn't belong to them.  There's a process for removing statues.  You are the North American Taliban.

Yes the problem was the Taliban didn't have the right permits. You have **** for brains.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 17, 2022, 11:21:52 am
Yes the problem was the Taliban didn't have the right permits. You have **** for brains.
You're the one justifying Taliban-like behavior.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2022, 11:36:00 am
You're the one justifying Taliban-like behavior.

Whatever you say brainlet.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2022, 11:55:35 am
On the flag issue:

I don’t really care myself.  They can wave it, burn it, sh!t on it….   It won’t change how I feel about Canada or the flag. 

But I can see how people, who have a different sense of pride about the country than I do, could be upset by a bunch of idiots, who are vehemently un-Canadian in their attitudes and views, co-opting its use. 

Personally, I feel just as at home in my parent’s birth country when I visit there as I do here.  I actually like a lot of things about it more….   So maybe that’s why I don’t really feel the pride that some do….  Or maybe I’m a sociopath…. I dunno.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: eyeball on March 17, 2022, 11:14:15 pm
I dunno.  kimmy's post is making me wonder what I think about the flag.

I don't like it being brandished as an aggressive 'f you' to ... I don't know ... doctors ?  Liberals ?  Easterners ?  People who can read ?

I think it represents our nation and all of its problems. 

Am I proud of it ?  I feel like I am part of it, and my feelings of love don't always include 'pride'.  Same as when someone I love does something that is not a good representation of their character.

And I don't think we should exactly look for 'logic' in these things, because we're talking about symbols that represent emotions.
Your post captures my sense of meh surrounding just about any symbol of nationalism. I suppose I might feel differently though if I saw Earth's flag flapping in the breeze at The Federation's Headquarters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 18, 2022, 12:48:16 am
This is completely inane. You don't have to have strong feelings or love for the flag and the nation it represents to understand the significance of its appropriation by right-wing nationalists.

Agree or disagree with their politics, or think some or many or all of them are complete idiots, but most right-wing folks who brandish themselves in a national flag believe in their hearts that they are patriots and are fighting for their rights as citizens.  That's all it means.  Its weird that this offends anyone.  It shows a huge lack of empathy, and is smug and condescending.  We might think the people we disagree with are wrong but most usually don't have evil intent.

This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on March 18, 2022, 07:29:23 am


This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.

I don't hate them either, and agree that most of them are gullible and misled.

But.

A flag represents a country, including it's people.  Canada's people are not a bunch of anti-science idiots, who accuse our government of being some kind of authoritarian/fascist/communist wannabe.  The people who do that, do not have the right to claim they are patriots as they spew hatred for the rest of us and for Canadian systems and institutions.  Wrapping themselves in the flag does not make them patriots.  They demean our flag and our country; they do not protect, enhance or honor it.   

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on March 18, 2022, 07:47:31 am
People who feel the need to declare themselves patriots remind me of people who feel the need to declare themselves straight. Seems to be compensation for a feeling they aren't.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 18, 2022, 08:00:20 am
People who feel the need to declare themselves patriots remind me of people who feel the need to declare themselves straight. Seems to be compensation for a feeling they aren't.
Or vegetarian.  The ongoing joke is how can you tell if somebody is vegan or vegetarian?  Don’t worry they’ll tell you! 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 18, 2022, 09:31:37 am
Agree or disagree with their politics, or think some or many or all of them are complete idiots, but most right-wing folks who brandish themselves in a national flag believe in their hearts that they are patriots and are fighting for their rights as citizens.  That's all it means.  Its weird that this offends anyone. It shows a huge lack of empathy, and is smug and condescending.  We might think the people we disagree with are wrong but most usually don't have evil intent.

Yeah I'm not sure why you always want to give these ding-dongs the benefit of the doubt. I don't disagree that these people think they are patriots, but I think they have a fundamentally different idea of what the means, what the nation is about and who it belongs to than I do.

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This is just people saying "eww how dare you wave the flag while advocating these silly disgusting beliefs I don't want my flag to be associated with".  Most anti-mandate people aren't evil, they just don't want the government to coerce them into having a medical procedure.  Some of them are also just dumb about a lot of stuff, which is a reason to shake your head but not a reason to hate them.

I'm willing to bet I've had a lot more first hand exposure to these sorts than you and trust me, dumb doesn't begin to cover it. And why shouldn't i hate people who hate people like me?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on March 18, 2022, 09:44:05 am
I don't think any progress can be made by hating them, but making fun of them to the point of humiliation might work. It's more fun too.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 18, 2022, 07:40:05 pm
I don't hate them either, and agree that most of them are gullible and misled.

But.

A flag represents a country, including it's people.  Canada's people are not a bunch of anti-science idiots, who accuse our government of being some kind of authoritarian/fascist/communist wannabe.  The people who do that, do not have the right to claim they are patriots as they spew hatred for the rest of us and for Canadian systems and institutions.  Wrapping themselves in the flag does not make them patriots.  They demean our flag and our country; they do not protect, enhance or honor it.

Imagine if the government was trying to make you have a medical procedure that you didn't want to take.  You'd probably think this was against your fundamental rights as a Canadian and that your government was a bunch of tyrants.  I have no idea where the "spew hatred for you" and "demean our flag and country" comes from.

I don't agree at all with parking your truck in the middle of a public street illegally, but most of the protestors weren't doing that either.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 18, 2022, 08:23:58 pm
Imagine if the government was trying to make you have a medical procedure that you didn't want to take.  You'd probably think this was against your fundamental rights as a Canadian and that your government was a bunch of tyrants.  I have no idea where the "spew hatred for you" and "demean our flag and country" comes from.

I don't agree at all with parking your truck in the middle of a public street illegally, but most of the protestors weren't doing that either.

No one had to get jabbed if they didn’t want to.  Stop being so dramatic.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 18, 2022, 08:32:44 pm
No one had to get jabbed if they didn’t want to.  Stop being so dramatic.

What about the 200k federal workers who wanted to keep their jobs?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 18, 2022, 08:44:09 pm
What about the 200k federal workers who wanted to keep their jobs?

Not a single person was held down and forced to get a jab.   I’m not going to feel sorry for anyone in the public service who is anti-science or afraid of a little needle. 

I work with public servants on a regular basis.  It helps me knowing they were vaccinated, and vice versa.  It makes perfect sense to be vaccinated.  What doesn’t make sense is prioritizing individual “rights” over public health.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on March 19, 2022, 07:49:09 am
Imagine if the government was trying to make you have a medical procedure that you didn't want to take. 

Making someone undergo a medical procedure is sterilizing women without their knowledge or consent when they're in the hospital to have a baby or for some other procedure.  Or performing experiments on patients in a  psychiatric hospital. That is what a forced medical procedures look like.

An employer can impose requirements for employment.  Many private companies did so; do you suppose they should not be allowed to?  As an employer, governments required vaccination of their employees.  "The Government" did not make a blanket law that anyone in the country who did not get vaccinated should lose their job.

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I have no idea where the "spew hatred for you" and "demean our flag and country" comes from.

Comes from the people who call our country a fascist state and their fellow citizens fascists/nazis.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on March 19, 2022, 08:08:48 am
What about the 200k federal workers who wanted to keep their jobs?

What makes you think any of them were forced?  Most people were happy to get a vaccine, including federal employees.

Large employers like McDonalds and Walmart required vaccination of their employees.  Why do you only object to one employer (the government) requiring vaccination as a condition of employment, but none of the private employers?  Is it ok if private industry "imposes on personal rights"?  Or should employers, including governments, have the right to require certain things from their employees?


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on March 23, 2022, 01:02:00 am
Here are some more lovely peaceful protestors:

https://twitter.com/TiMunoz/status/1490473045965815812

Oh hey, turns out the attempted arson wasn't freedom truckers after all. I mean, we probably all figured that out when we saw the security photos the police sent out and found out they were looking for a pink-haired kid and a dude with a covid mask. They've now got the mask guy, but the pink hair kid is still at large.
 
My money was on Jussie Smollett, but instead Ottawa police arrested a guy named Connor Russell McDonald, age 21, of Ottawa. Says here that McDonald is a mentally ill guy from "the shelter system", which I assume means homeless shelters.

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1505991486894129155

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on March 23, 2022, 06:41:02 am

My money was on Jussie Smollett, but instead Ottawa police arrested a guy named Connor Russell McDonald, age 21, of Ottawa.


I bet he could have been a first round draft pick with that name.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 23, 2022, 10:07:06 am
Oh hey, turns out the attempted arson wasn't freedom truckers after all. I mean, we probably all figured that out when we saw the security photos the police sent out and found out they were looking for a pink-haired kid and a dude with a covid mask. They've now got the mask guy, but the pink hair kid is still at large.
 
My money was on Jussie Smollett, but instead Ottawa police arrested a guy named Connor Russell McDonald, age 21, of Ottawa. Says here that McDonald is a mentally ill guy from "the shelter system", which I assume means homeless shelters.

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/1505991486894129155

 -k

I'm glad I opted to post that this needed to wait before making accusations....
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on March 27, 2022, 01:47:36 pm
geezaz skippy - will you/CPC supporters of the 'Freedom Convoy' help offset city of Ottawa costs?

(https://i.imgur.com/YbxNCEb.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 30, 2022, 12:24:56 pm
This is police state bullshit.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 30, 2022, 12:29:54 pm
Since Shiddy is either too lazy or stupid to learn how to link to actual articles:

Durham cop who posted video supporting 'Freedom Convoy' facing police act charges (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/durham-police-lockdown-measures-1.6402177)

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A Durham, Ont., region police officer is facing disciplinary charges after posting a video online earlier this year expressing support for the so-called Freedom Convoy while in uniform.

Const. Erin Howard is charged under the Police Service Act with two counts of each of the following: discreditable conduct, insubordination and breach of confidence.

Turns out that publicly voicing political opinions on your employers' time, wearing your employers' uniform and driving your employers' vehicle is a pretty dumb idea!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on March 30, 2022, 12:36:55 pm
This is police state bullshit.

piling on after member BDog already spanked you!

(https://i.imgur.com/mlHlnSZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 30, 2022, 12:50:51 pm
Why aren't people pointing out how much better we have done than our neighbour with this crisis ?

All of our elected officials deserve credit for listening to their experts and Canada deserves credit for following good health advice.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 30, 2022, 01:03:48 pm
I think our right wing nutjobs also deserve credit for protesting in front of the national legislature and not breaking inside to smear poo on the walls.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 30, 2022, 01:09:50 pm
I think our right wing nutjobs also deserve credit for protesting in front of the national legislature and not breaking inside to smear poo on the walls.

We should reward them for that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 30, 2022, 08:04:35 pm
We should reward them for that.

Let's give them a trophy. Like a mini bronze Terry Fox statue trophy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 30, 2022, 08:08:41 pm
We should reward them for that.

Three squares and a cot sounds good.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 30, 2022, 08:19:24 pm
We should reward them for that.
There’s no reward or punishment for exercising a right to peaceful protest.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on March 30, 2022, 08:21:25 pm
Since Shiddy is either too lazy or stupid to learn how to link to actual articles:

Durham cop who posted video supporting 'Freedom Convoy' facing police act charges (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/durham-police-lockdown-measures-1.6402177)

Turns out that publicly voicing political opinions on your employers' time, wearing your employers' uniform and driving your employers' vehicle is a pretty dumb idea!
Right, like police officers that supported BLM.  Any of those people charged?  Nope.  Unequal application of justice based on politics is tantamount to a police state.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on March 31, 2022, 09:19:06 am
Right, like police officers that supported BLM.  Any of those people charged?  Nope.  Unequal application of justice based on politics is tantamount to a police state.

LOl what? Where? Who?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Dia on April 01, 2022, 05:26:37 pm
There’s no reward or punishment for exercising a right to peaceful protest.

And you call Canada a dictatorship and JT a dictator.  Even your own words prove you wrong.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on April 20, 2022, 01:06:03 pm
Convoy organizer Pat King charged with perjury, obstruction of justice (https://ottawacitizen.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/ottawa-convoy-protest-leader-charged-with-perjury-obstruction-of-justice/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1650392582)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on April 20, 2022, 01:58:03 pm
Convoy organizer Pat King charged with perjury, obstruction of justice (https://ottawacitizen.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/ottawa-convoy-protest-leader-charged-with-perjury-obstruction-of-justice/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1650392582)
Did she lie and or obstruct her non-crime?  You police state a**holes are a joke.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on April 20, 2022, 02:04:07 pm
Did she lie and or obstruct her non-crime?  You police state a**holes are a joke.

LOL

Just to refresh your memory, Shiddy, HE is the far-right conspiracy theorist and frequent purveyor of online white supremacist and anti-Semitic content who was one of the organizers of the convoy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on April 20, 2022, 02:06:55 pm
LOL

Just to refresh your memory, Shiddy, HE is the far-right conspiracy theorist and frequent purveyor of online white supremacist and anti-Semitic content who was one of the organizers of the convoy.
LOL, and did he lie and/or obstruct about his non-crime related to a constitutionally protected peaceful protest?  Like I've said, you police state a**holes are a joke.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on April 20, 2022, 02:17:26 pm
LOL, and did he lie and/or obstruct about his non-crime related to a constitutionally protected peaceful protest?  Like I've said, you police state a**holes are a joke.

The guy who cries about defunding the police has a problem with the police state now lmao. Just admit you don't think laws should apply to right wing nut jobs like you and f**k off.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on April 20, 2022, 02:58:29 pm
The guy who cries about defunding the police has a problem with the police state now lmao. Just admit you don't think laws should apply to right wing nut jobs like you and f**k off.
Which laws?  What's the underlying crime?  You're a f**king fascist.  Please move out of Canada, people like you are ruining the country.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on April 20, 2022, 03:03:29 pm
Which laws?  What's the underlying crime?

Can't you read? Perjury and obstruction, on top of the other charges including mischief, intimidation, obstructing police and disobeying a court order.

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You're a f**king fascist.  Please move out of Canada, people like you are ruining the country.

"Fascism is when the racist guy i like gets charged after breaking the law."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on April 20, 2022, 03:13:51 pm
Can't you read? Perjury and obstruction, on top of the other charges including mischief, intimidation, obstructing police and disobeying a court order.

"Fascism is when the racist guy i like gets charged after breaking the law."
Yes I know, perjury and obstruction based on a peaceful protest.  Honking can be annoying, I get it.  But I love how you idiots treat this like it's 911 or something.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on April 20, 2022, 03:40:32 pm
Blocking the supply chain is an act of terrorism. You ignore that because it's indefensible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on April 20, 2022, 03:52:27 pm
Blocking the supply chain is an act of terrorism. You ignore that because it's indefensible.
"Blocking the supply chain" is terrorism?  LOL!  Good one.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on April 20, 2022, 05:06:46 pm
Yes I know, perjury and obstruction based on a peaceful protest.  Honking can be annoying, I get it.  But I love how you idiots treat this like it's 911 or something.

Take it up with the crown prosecutor, loser. Ask them why your Nazi pal is catching so many charges.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on April 20, 2022, 06:09:54 pm
"Blocking the supply chain" is terrorism?  LOL!  Good one.
Uh...yes, it is. It's also an act of war.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on April 22, 2022, 05:36:59 pm
Yes I know, perjury and obstruction based on a peaceful protest.  Honking can be annoying, I get it.  But I love how you idiots treat this like it's 911 or something.

Perjury is about lying under oath in a court room. It has nothing to do with protesting. When are you starting a Go Fund Me for all the businesses that had to close down for a month and the people who lost work because of it?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on April 22, 2022, 07:13:35 pm
Uh...yes, it is. It's also an act of war.

It's illegal, it's not terrorism.  Terrorism is violence or threats of violence.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on April 28, 2022, 11:07:57 am
oh my waldo, oh my!

facing charges of mischief, counselling mischief, intimidation, counselling intimidation, counselling obstruction of police and obstructing police, Tamara Lich, one of the principal organizers of the "Trucker Freedom Convoy", is currently out of jail on bail.

that the 'Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms' has confirmed it provided legal assistance and advice in representing the 'Freedom Convoy 2022' in Ottawa, it is only fitting that it awards Ms. Lich the, George Jonas Freedom Award, at a June ceremony in Toronto... special bonus has Rex Murphy as keynote speaker at the event!

(https://i.imgur.com/WViOoPA.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on April 29, 2022, 02:28:44 am
I am surprised that this has not been mentioned...

From: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/here-s-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-rolling-thunder-ottawa-biker-demonstration-1.5879516
Ottawa police and city officials continue to prepare for the "Rolling Thunder" event arriving in capital this weekend. More than 500 motorcycles are expected to take part in the demonstration, which will include events on Parliament Hill and at the National War Memorial.
...
The "Rolling Thunder Ottawa" website offers no information about the group, including the purpose for the event this weekend in Ottawa.


Also see:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/rolling-thunder-rally-freedom-convoy-1.6433308
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/we-cannot-let-this-go-unchallenged-unwelcome-party-plans-to-send-message-to-rolling-thunder-ottawa-event-1.5880846

Supposedly they are there to complain about the "desecration" of the war memorial (i.e. the fencing the government put up around it after people from the "freedom convoy" earlier this year were seen dancing on the monument). Police have plans in place to limit access to streets around parliament in order to prevent the circus that occurred earlier this year.

So much of this smells funny...

- The sketchiness of the organizers by not providing a more full disclosure on their web site (I don't think people even knew what this protest was supposed to be about until recently)

- Several of the organizers of "Rolling Thunder" were involves with the "freedom convoy" (and we seen how well that worked out, what the protesters robbing and abusing residents in the area, and causing lots of disturbances)

- Their web site highlights a speech from Chris Sky, who has a track record involving various legal problems (including making threats), holocaust denial, and racist rhetoric. Yet the organizers claim they "have no connection" to him.... Um, then why are they publicizing his speech?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: segnosaur on April 29, 2022, 03:09:39 am
Since Shiddy is either too lazy or stupid to learn how to link to actual articles:

Durham cop who posted video supporting 'Freedom Convoy' facing police act charges (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/durham-police-lockdown-measures-1.6402177)

Turns out that publicly voicing political opinions on your employers' time, wearing your employers' uniform and driving your employers' vehicle is a pretty dumb idea!
Not only just "voicing political opinions", but doing so in support of an activity that has featured multiple breaches of the law. (You know, the law... the thing she was hired to actually enforce.)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 19, 2022, 12:18:08 pm
wait waldo, there's more: Freedom Convoy protesters set to return to Ottawa for Canada Day, stay through summer (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/freedom-convoy-protesters-return-canada-day-1.6492504)

freeeeeeeeeeeedom!

Ambassador Rae says what?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVmc_YoX0AE1Etn?format=png&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 21, 2022, 02:09:56 pm
skippy doubles-down... uhhh, apparently! Nothing officially stated by Poilievre but the 'Canada Day Convoy' touts his support:

(https://i.imgur.com/yIwCln4.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 21, 2022, 06:59:55 pm
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 21, 2022, 08:17:19 pm
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.

Populist politicians should appeal to the common denominator, not the lowest common denominator.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on June 21, 2022, 11:20:07 pm
The sun is setting on populism... maybe he's not the genius he pretends to be.

I don't think many people mistake Skippy for a genius.

nonetheless, on populism:

https://jacobin.com/2022/04/canadian-left-freedom-convoy-populism
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Over the course of the pandemic, the Left has largely been missing in action. Thus far, there has been no political force challenging the rise of Poilievre. As he and the lurking convoy movement build upon their shared affinities, the Left seems to have abandoned the field. Canada’s institutional left — to the extent that it exists — appears to be unable or unwilling to speak to the populist impulses of those who are drawn to the movement but who may yet be reachable. It has thereby left a political space ripe for a pro-youth, pro-worker agenda in the hands of cynical right-wing operators.

The convoy organizers and their supporters, along with Poilievre and his, are making political hay out of issues that are normally the Left’s bread and butter — issues such as good jobs, housing, health care, and sick leave. While many who support convoy politics may be beyond reach — extremists who cannot be reasoned with nor converted — it would be foolish for the Left to cede this ground entirely. Indeed, the Left should pursue a policy of conversion, one that can redirect the anger of these folks.

It should be regarded as no accident that in 2016, when a populist movement carried Trump to victory over his establishment opponents, an equally fervent populist movement propelled Bernie Sanders to a serious challenge of Hillary Clinton's position of prohibitive front-runner.


Voters are regular people who just want to know why they can't get ahead in the world. People who want to know why they work harder and prices go up and their wages don't. People who see the stock market numbers go up and the unemployment index go down and ask "why am I just as broke as before?"

Populism, it seems to me, should be aimed directly at those people. It used to be, didn't it? So why has "populism" become a dirty word?

The left is supposed to have BETTER answers for people like that (which is most of us) than the likes of Trump or Poilievre. So why can't the left reach those voters? Why did the "Rust Belt" states flip to Trump in 2016? Why didn't Biden win a resounding victory in "the Rust Belt" in 2020? Why did Ontario unions support Ford instead of Horvath in the recent Ontario election?  Why does it seem like "the left" has become the choice of Ivory Tower egg-heads and completely lost the blue-collar voter who used to be their base?

One of the post-mortems of the Ontario election I read said that Horvath's campaign was a big hit with Twitter people but a complete miss with real voters. Anybody disagree?

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on June 22, 2022, 01:28:53 am
Marco Maraschino said that police forces told him that then needed the Emergency Act to deal with the trucker convoy.

But under oath the Ottawa police chief(s) and the RCMP chief all said that they didn't ask for the Emergency Act to be invoked.

So is Marco Maraschino a big fat liar?  And also, does Marco Maraschino look like a live-action version of the claymation guy from Wallace & Gromit or is it just me??

 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 22, 2022, 04:46:37 am
Your answer is in the questions.
Ivory tower types are in control but not relatable to regular folks.
The left quietly won the pandemic by applying massive government intervention that worked.

But there's no populist anger in that.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 22, 2022, 06:16:30 am
Quote from: Ottawa Police Chief Steve Bells
The use of the Emergencies Act was very useful, beneficial and necessary to bring an end to the Ottawa blockades.

Quote from: Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson
The Emergencies Act was needed to help resolve many issues during the Freedom Convoy. The biggest issue was that we couldn't get these vehicles out of there because we didn't have the ability to force tow truck companies to come to our aid.

Quote from: Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino
After consultations with law enforcement it was understood by all that you needed to invoke the act. The powers police needed to end the weeks-long blockade in downtown Ottawa found themselves in the Emergencies Act. The request was for the powers, which required the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

I agree we need to scrutinize the invocation of the Emergencies Act, and government is co-operating both with the special committee and the public inquiry tasked with doing so.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 08:06:07 am
The left quietly won the pandemic by applying massive government intervention that worked.

Doug Ford did that too, he just didn't crap all over everyone's rights and spend his province into more inflation.

The right and left showed themselves to be who they really are.  The right are the freedum anti- science conspiracy morons while the left use the bludgeon of the state to implement all their self righteous foolery and can't help but over-spend their way out of a problem.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 22, 2022, 08:30:59 am
Doug Ford did that too, he just didn't crap all over everyone's rights and spend his province into more inflation.

The right and left showed themselves to be who they really are.  The right are the freedum anti- science conspiracy morons while the left use the bludgeon of the state to implement all their self righteous foolery and can't help but over-spend their way out of a problem.

Sorry - Ford and Trudeau were on the same team here. 

The Convoy people hated Trudeau but Ford was just as complicit in any policies the freedom coughers hated.

You are calling Ford 'the left' because... the state... as though a pandemic is a good time for government to step back and let the market take hold of things...

The State needs to step up in hard times and that's not a left or right thing. 

The one 'leftist' thing I will acknowledge is the CERB, which was apparently adequate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 22, 2022, 10:21:06 am
It should be regarded as no accident that in 2016, when a populist movement carried Trump to victory over his establishment opponents, an equally fervent populist movement propelled Bernie Sanders to a serious challenge of Hillary Clinton's position of prohibitive front-runner.

Voters are regular people who just want to know why they can't get ahead in the world. People who want to know why they work harder and prices go up and their wages don't. People who see the stock market numbers go up and the unemployment index go down and ask "why am I just as broke as before?"


lol no they aren't, at least not the voters who actually turn up on election day. Like Trump, I suspect Pollivere's base are revanchist old people and an alliance between the haute and petite bourgeoisie interested in securing their own economic interests. The "working class, blue collar joes" thing is a facade.

Quote
Populism, it seems to me, should be aimed directly at those people. It used to be, didn't it? So why has "populism" become a dirty word?

The left is supposed to have BETTER answers for people like that (which is most of us) than the likes of Trump or Poilievre. So why can't the left reach those voters? Why did the "Rust Belt" states flip to Trump in 2016? Why didn't Biden win a resounding victory in "the Rust Belt" in 2020? Why did Ontario unions support Ford instead of Horvath in the recent Ontario election?  Why does it seem like "the left" has become the choice of Ivory Tower egg-heads and completely lost the blue-collar voter who used to be their base?

One of the post-mortems of the Ontario election I read said that Horvath's campaign was a big hit with Twitter people but a complete miss with real voters. Anybody disagree?

The reason populism has become a dirty word is that it's fundamentally empty in the hands of demagogues like Trump and PP, just cynical sloganeering with nothing behind it.

As for the rest, the left does have answers from a policy standpoint, except mainstream left and centre parties aren't interested in implementing them, as the Jacobin article you link to says. Not that it would matter if they did because the idea that you can win people from the right who are embedded in the populist movement over with policies is absurd.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 11:12:18 am
 :'(
Sorry - Ford and Trudeau were on the same team here. 

The Convoy people hated Trudeau but Ford was just as complicit in any policies the freedom coughers hated.

You are calling Ford 'the left' because... the state... as though a pandemic is a good time for government to step back and let the market take hold of things...

The State needs to step up in hard times and that's not a left or right thing. 

The one 'leftist' thing I will acknowledge is the CERB, which was apparently adequate.

I am not calling Ford left.  He's been pretty moderate and mostly reasonable.

Ford and Trudeau are not on the same team.  The convoy was set up because the feds were taking away people's jobs if they didn't want to get vaccinated.  Ford did not require teachers or students to be vaccinated, for instance.  The ON Liberals promised to make student vaccinations mandatory even though the health threat to students from covid is next to zero.

The ON Liberals tried to use mandatory vaccines as a wedge issue in order to try to get elected.  The fed Liberals did the execrable same thing. They announced mandatory vaccines for all public servants even if they work from home during their last election campaign.

They just lifted the mandate btw.  So you were forced to get vaxxed by the gov even if you never went into the office once.  Disgusting abuse of power.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 22, 2022, 12:29:39 pm
:'(
1. I am not calling Ford left.  He's been pretty moderate and mostly reasonable.

2. Ford and Trudeau are not on the same team.  The convoy was set up because the feds were taking away people's jobs if they didn't want to get vaccinated.  Ford did not require teachers or students to be vaccinated, for instance.  The ON Liberals promised to make student vaccinations mandatory even though the health threat to students from covid is next to zero.

3. The ON Liberals tried to use mandatory vaccines as a wedge issue in order to try to get elected.  The fed Liberals did the execrable same thing. They announced mandatory vaccines for all public servants even if they work from home during their last election campaign.  They just lifted the mandate btw.  So you were forced to get vaxxed by the gov even if you never went into the office once.  Disgusting abuse of power.

1. Ford IS 'bludgeon of the state' in Ontario
2. The protesters wanted to drop provincial mandates as well, not just the US-Canada trucking mandates.  Hard to tell because their slogan was "F*** Trudeau'
3. I don't see any major differences - provinces and feds were stumbling along.  But F*** Trudeau...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 02:36:46 pm
1. Ford IS 'bludgeon of the state' in Ontario
2. The protesters wanted to drop provincial mandates as well, not just the US-Canada trucking mandates.  Hard to tell because their slogan was "F*** Trudeau'
3. I don't see any major differences - provinces and feds were stumbling along.  But F*** Trudeau...

Hint:  Trudeau was taking away people's incomes, including women, if they wouldn't get jabbed with medicine needles.  But he bans MP's and Canada Summer Jobs applicants from even speaking about taking away other forms of female body autonomy rights.

Ford didn't even mandate healthcare workers to get jabbed.  The sky didn't fall.  So yeah, F*** Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 22, 2022, 02:50:02 pm
Hint:  Trudeau was taking away people's incomes, including women, if they wouldn't get jabbed with medicine needles.  But he bans MP's and Canada Summer Jobs applicants from even speaking about taking away other forms of female body autonomy rights.

Ford didn't even mandate healthcare workers to get jabbed. The sky didn't fall.  So yeah, F*** Trudeau.

Ontario Mandates Immunization Policies for Long-term Care Homes (https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1000230/ontario-mandates-immunization-policies-for-long-term-care-homes)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 22, 2022, 03:54:13 pm
Marco Maraschino said that police forces told him that then needed the Emergency Act to deal with the trucker convoy.

But under oath the Ottawa police chief(s) and the RCMP chief all said that they didn't ask for the Emergency Act to be invoked.

So is Marco Maraschino a big fat liar?  And also, does Marco Maraschino look like a live-action version of the claymation guy from Wallace & Gromit or is it just me??

 -k

That’s the stupid thing…. It was a popular move to invoke the act.  The Libs couldn’t help but shoot themselves in the foot by lying about.  I don’t even know why…. probably as an exaggeration of the reasons they used to invoke it. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 22, 2022, 04:56:10 pm
That’s the stupid thing…. It was a popular move to invoke the act.  The Libs couldn’t help but shoot themselves in the foot by lying about.  I don’t even know why…. probably as an exaggeration of the reasons they used to invoke it.

It's too bad because "the cops are too chickenshit to actually enforce the laws so we're making them" would have been a good message.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 22, 2022, 05:11:37 pm
The Libs couldn’t help but shoot themselves in the foot by lying about.  I don’t even know why…. probably as an exaggeration of the reasons they used to invoke it.

no! Again:

Quote from: Ottawa Police Chief Steve Bells
The use of the Emergencies Act was very useful, beneficial and necessary to bring an end to the Ottawa blockades.

Quote from: Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson
The Emergencies Act was needed to help resolve many issues during the Freedom Convoy. The biggest issue was that we couldn't get these vehicles out of there because we didn't have the ability to force tow truck companies to come to our aid.

Quote from: Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino
After consultations with law enforcement it was understood by all that you needed to invoke the act. The powers police needed to end the weeks-long blockade in downtown Ottawa found themselves in the Emergencies Act. The request was for the powers, which required the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

I agree we need to scrutinize the invocation of the Emergencies Act, and government is co-operating both with the special committee and the public inquiry tasked with doing so.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 05:30:07 pm
Ontario Mandates Immunization Policies for Long-term Care Homes (https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1000230/ontario-mandates-immunization-policies-for-long-term-care-homes)

Not nurses and hospital staff though, as far as aware.

At least LTC homes make sense giving those people are absurdly dying and elementary students aren't.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 22, 2022, 06:28:31 pm
1. Hint:  Trudeau was taking away people's incomes, including women, if they wouldn't get jabbed with medicine needles. 

2. But he bans MP's and Canada Summer Jobs applicants from even speaking about taking away other forms of female body autonomy rights.

3. Ford didn't even mandate healthcare workers to get jabbed.  The sky didn't fall.  So yeah, F*** Trudeau.
1. As was Ford.
2. You are misrepresenting this grossly.
3. I am 100% ok forcing people to get a jab for the public good as were many others.  It might have more to do with community mindedness but go ahead and call us leftys and fascists (?!?). 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 09:09:27 pm
1. As was Ford.
2. You are misrepresenting this grossly.
3. I am 100% ok forcing people to get a jab for the public good as were many others.  It might have more to do with community mindedness but go ahead and call us leftys and fascists (?!?).

1. Only people working in LTC because those living there could easily die.  At least the science was sound on that one.

2. How so?  That's exactly what happened as I recall.

3. Public servants 100% working from home were forced to take medicine.  Why?  So were truckers who spend 90% of their work day alone inside a self-contained truck cabin. How is this for the public good?  If you want to take the medicine take it.  People have civil liberties.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 22, 2022, 09:42:11 pm
1. Only people working in LTC because those living there could easily die.  At least the science was sound on that one.

2. How so?  That's exactly what happened as I recall.

3. Public servants 100% working from home were forced to take medicine.  Why?  So were truckers who spend 90% of their work day alone inside a self-contained truck cabin. How is this for the public good?  If you want to take the medicine take it.  People have civil liberties.

Public servants were not 100% at home.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 10:41:56 pm
Public servants were not 100% at home.

Ok?  The majority were.   What does that have to do with anything anyways?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 22, 2022, 10:53:05 pm
Ok?  The majority were.   What does that have to do with anything anyways?

Because you lie and exaggerate in every post you make.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 22, 2022, 11:54:48 pm
Because you lie and exaggerate in every post you make.

Like what? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 23, 2022, 12:51:48 am
Like what?

All public servants are at home 100%. 

Vaccine mandates violate bodily autonomy.  It’s constant conspiratard nonsense.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 23, 2022, 05:45:32 am
.

1. How so?  That's exactly what happened as I recall.



The government was funding abortion protesters paid by religious groups, so they stopped that funding.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 23, 2022, 06:34:38 am
1. All public servants are at home 100%. 

2. Vaccine mandates violate bodily autonomy.  It’s constant conspiratard nonsense.

1. Never said that.  Your reading comprehension is poor.

2.  They do.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 23, 2022, 06:40:19 am
The government was funding abortion protesters paid by religious groups, so they stopped that funding.

That's not what was happening:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/5831085/canada-summer-jobs-abortion/amp/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on June 23, 2022, 08:45:14 am
That's not what was happening:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/5831085/canada-summer-jobs-abortion/amp/

Well, ok - I get your point.  I'm on the fence about this.  If the Canadian Communist Party wanted to hire students for a letter writing campaign against Ukraine would that be ok ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 23, 2022, 10:32:16 am
Well, ok - I get your point.  I'm on the fence about this.  If the Canadian Communist Party wanted to hire students for a letter writing campaign against Ukraine would that be ok ?

Any group wanting to remove rights from Canadians shouldn’t get funding from the feds. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 23, 2022, 06:27:29 pm
Any group wanting to remove rights from Canadians shouldn’t get funding from the feds.

What about MADD?  What about a group wanting to raise the age of consent to 18?  What about groups calling for stricter gun laws?

What about a group that advocated for mandatory vaccines  that called themselves the Liberal Party?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 23, 2022, 07:28:43 pm
What about MADD?  What about a group wanting to raise the age of consent to 18?  What about groups calling for stricter gun laws?

What about a group that advocated for mandatory vaccines  that called themselves the Liberal Party?

You think drunk driving is a right?

You think owning a gun is a right in Canada?

Age of consent is also not a rights issue. 

No one called for forced jabs against anyone’s will. 


It’s like you don’t even know what a right is….  Did you fail civics class?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 23, 2022, 07:31:42 pm
What about MADD?  What about a group wanting to raise the age of consent to 18?  What about groups calling for stricter gun laws?

This is a bad analogy and you should feel bad.

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What about a group that advocated for mandatory vaccines  that called themselves the Liberal Party?

I must've missed the "mandatory vaccines for everyone" news.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 23, 2022, 08:01:44 pm
You think drunk driving is a right?

You think owning a gun is a right in Canada?

Age of consent is also not a rights issue. 

No one called for forced jabs against anyone’s will. 


It’s like you don’t even know what a right is….  Did you fail civics class?

They're as much rights as abortion is.   I don't see that in the Charter, in fact there's no laws at all dealing with it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 23, 2022, 09:14:34 pm
This is a bad analogy and you should feel bad.

You should feel bad for not knowing what an analogy is.

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I must've missed the "mandatory vaccines for everyone" news.

You did if you're a federal public servant.  Even if you haven't been in the office for 2 years.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on June 23, 2022, 09:40:22 pm

You did if you're a federal public servant.  Even if you haven't been in the office for 2 years.

Mandatory, unless you don’t want one!  It was also a temporary measure.  So now, the Covidiot public servant can go back to their old jobs. 

They're as much rights as abortion is.   I don't see that in the Charter, in fact there's no laws at all dealing with it.

Why was the law on abortion overturned in Canada?  Because it violated Section 7 of the Charter. 

Unlike all of the stuff you listed, abortion was allowed based on unconstitutional laws being overturned.  Seriously…. This is grade 10 social studies…. and you’re failing miserably. 

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 24, 2022, 10:45:00 am
You should feel bad for not knowing what an analogy is.

Little early to be eating paint chips bud.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 28, 2022, 04:44:56 pm
oh my waldo, oh my!

facing charges of mischief, counselling mischief, intimidation, counselling intimidation, counselling obstruction of police and obstructing police, Tamara Lich, one of the principal organizers of the "Trucker Freedom Convoy", is currently out of jail on bail.

that the 'Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms' has confirmed it provided legal assistance and advice in representing the 'Freedom Convoy 2022' in Ottawa, it is only fitting that it awards Ms. Lich the, George Jonas Freedom Award, at a June ceremony in Toronto... special bonus has Rex Murphy as keynote speaker at the event!

(https://i.imgur.com/WViOoPA.gif)

Lich arrested for breach of bail conditions!

(https://i.imgur.com/j5mqqdJ.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 28, 2022, 04:52:29 pm
Poilievre revisionism extraordinaire!

(https://i.imgur.com/XyFjQM2.gif)

if only PM Trudeau had "listened to the people" says skippy! As in listen to their MOU demands to overturn the 2021 election results in favour of a ruling "committee" of far-right extremists, the Senate and the Governor General... which eventually shifted into a proposal where a core group of "Freedumb Convoy" organizers and their supporters would govern, “with the Conservatives, and the NDP, and the Bloc as a coalition.” This... this is the rabble, the nonsense that the CPC/Poilievre supported. Imagine PM Trudeau ignoring them in favour of invoking the Emergencies Act - imagine!

wait waldo, there's more: Freedom Convoy protesters set to return to Ottawa for Canada Day, stay through summer (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/freedom-convoy-protesters-return-canada-day-1.6492504)

freeeeeeeeeeeedom!


Racist, homophobic, misogynistic signs or speech at public Canada Day events 'will not be tolerated': Ottawa Police Service (https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/racist-homophobic-misogynistic-signs-or-speech-at-public-canada-day-events-will-not-be-tolerated-ottawa-police-service?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1656436937)

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The Ottawa Police Service is vowing not to tolerate homophobic, misogynistic, or racist messages — including in speeches, gestures or signs — in public places during this week’s Canada Day events, and said they could lead to criminal charges.
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“Canada Day [is] a very important day to Canadians. It’s a day where we celebrate our country and all the good things in it. But people … when they come, they need to be lawful. And they need to be respectful of our community,” Bell told board members.

“We know the scars our community feels from the days in the end of January, beginning of February, where there was all of the negative interactions with people who were attending and occupying and illegally protesting within our streets. We’ve heard those. We’ve listened to those. And I want to reassure you that those feelings, that trauma that our community has felt, is front and centre in all of our planning efforts and will be front and centre in our response efforts.”
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on June 28, 2022, 05:12:17 pm
Four months after the last truck left downtown Ottawa, top Freedom Convoy figures returned to Parliament Hill and met with 20 per cent of the Conservative Party of Canada caucus, according to video reviewed by CTV News.

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On Wednesday, 24 Conservative members attended meetings with convoy spokesperson Tom Marazzo, convoy director of security Daniel Bulford, advisor to former U.S. president Donald Trump Paul Alexander, and Canadian soldier James Topp, who is currently on a march across Canada protesting vaccine mandates.

The organizers held two presentations Wednesday afternoon in a building located in the parliamentary precinct. Alexander said in his presentation that Conservative MP Dean Allison helped the group gain access to the Valour Building. Groups planning to hold presentations on Parliament Hill require a parliamentarian to sponsor them in order to be given permission to access buildings on Parliament Hill and book a room.

LIST OF CONSERVATIVE MPs WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING

    Marilyn Gladu, Arnold Viersen, Dean Allison, James Bezan, Melissa Lantsman, Dan Muys, Ted Falk, Leslyn Lewis,
    Alex Ruff, Jeremy Patzer, Jamie Schmale, Martin Shields, John Barlow, Ryan Williams, Warren Steinley, Damien Kurek,
    Gerald Soroka, Scott Davidson, Chris Warkentin, Corey Tochor, Tako van Popta, Cheryl Gallant, Kerry-Lynn Findlay
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on June 28, 2022, 06:45:27 pm

Racist, homophobic, misogynistic signs or speech at public Canada Day events 'will not be tolerated': Ottawa Police Service (https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/racist-homophobic-misogynistic-signs-or-speech-at-public-canada-day-events-will-not-be-tolerated-ottawa-police-service?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1656436937)

Geez now it's even illegal to be an a-hole.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on June 29, 2022, 10:22:41 am
Geez now it's even illegal to be an a-hole.

Yeah I agree, they should absolutely let those freaks show us who they really are.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on July 02, 2022, 12:04:27 pm
skippy's Canada Day march for freeeedom!

(https://i.imgur.com/cB69euv.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Ginxa22 on July 03, 2022, 03:57:06 pm
skippy's Canada Day march for freeeedom!

(https://i.imgur.com/cB69euv.jpg)
as a woman and an Indigenous woman at that - these type of guys make me think of woman beaters - so self centered and emotionally selfish. Definitely a danger to democracy and defenseless people. jmo
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on July 03, 2022, 07:14:06 pm
What’s up with the camouflage? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on July 06, 2022, 06:58:44 am
per 'The Hill Times': The convoy’s tire tracks are still all over the face of politics (https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/07/06/the-convoys-tire-tracks-are-still-all-over-the-face-of-politics/370698)

(https://www.hilltimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Collage-Maker-05-Jul-2022-10.48-AM-750x375.jpg)

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Another week and a couple more stories about high-profile Conservatives engaging with people connected to the Freedom Convoy. The day before Canada Day, it was Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre marching into Ottawa with veteran James Topp and others connected to the convoy. Then on July 4, CTV News broke a story revealing former Saskatchewan premier Brad Wall was speaking with and advising convoy organizer Chris Barber during the winter occupation.

Poilievre—as has been his approach with convoy matters—told media he walked with Topp because he was doing his job. In his own words: “I thought I would give him a greeting and give him a hearing and see if he had any thoughts to share with me, as one of the representatives of the people.” On the surface, it’s a reasonable response to argue that it is part of an elected official’s job to listen. It’s also true. But where it stops being reasonable with Poilievre and others is when the listening stops, and the enabling happens.
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The problem for Wall, and in turn the federal Conservative Party, is that he allowed himself to be dragged into this in the first place. While there will be some Canadians who will have no issue with Wall’s involvement, the political opponents of the Conservatives will view this as a present. Further proof, they will argue, of how many Conservative leaders have lost their way and are becoming the party of the disgruntled riffraff. Yes, a dismissive term, but the competitors of the Conservatives will be much less generous.

It will be interesting to see if Wall offers a hearty set of public comments. Wall is a skilled communicator and possesses political authenticity. He will know he has a brand problem here, not just the Conservative Party. The Freedom Convoy may have left Ottawa, but it is still shaping the Canadian political landscape.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 06, 2022, 08:16:06 am
^ not damning enough
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on July 06, 2022, 12:14:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW85riAXwAAiLlD?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on July 08, 2022, 09:29:37 am
National Observer: The CPC is now the Convoy Party of Canada (https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/07/07/opinion/cpc-now-convoy-party-canada) - Max Fawcett | July 7th 2022

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Ottawa residents were understandably concerned about a Canada Day repeat of the anti-vaccine protests that gridlocked their city’s downtown at the start of this year. But while our nation’s capital managed to survive the festivities mostly unscathed, the so-called convoy’s creeping takeover of this country’s official Opposition continues apace.

Leadership race front-runner Pierre Poilievre made that abundantly clear last week when he decided to march with James Topp, the controversial far-right leader of the convoy’s latest iteration. Far from turning his back on the more extremist elements of that movement, Poilievre seems determined to hug them as close as possible.
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Indeed, based on the convoy’s popularity among the current Conservative membership, Poilievre’s Canada Day stunt may not be as politically suicidal as it might seem from afar. As EKOS pollster Frank Graves noted, his data shows that while 68 per cent of Canadians oppose the convoy, that figure drops to 30 per cent among CPC voters, with nearly twice as many (55 per cent) supporting it. That ratio of support to opposition is only eclipsed by People’s Party of Canada voters, whom Poilievre is almost certainly targeting in both the leadership race and beyond.
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They see the convoy’s fans as a valuable source of donations and political support, and they’re apparently willing to overlook the talk about overthrowing a democratically elected government and charging the prime minister with treason in order to get it.

That relationship is only going to get cozier if Poilievre becomes the one in charge, an outcome that seems practically inevitable at this point.

If nothing else, this should put to rest once and for all the notion that there is a moderate version of the Conservative Party of Canada just waiting to emerge.

Instead, a resounding victory by Poilievre would almost certainly mean a turn further to the right, towards the sort of Fox News-style, nonsense-on-steroids politics that defined the convoy and seems to intrigue its enablers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 16, 2022, 05:28:45 pm
And the Oscar for best actress and biggest hypocrite (#freedom) goes to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJwcYowaKFA
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on August 02, 2022, 03:14:24 pm
Putting this here because the principal in this story is honky-adjacent:
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A failed political candidate who is the daughter of a controversial former Ontario MPP has been ordered to pay nearly $100,000 to a former friend for posting defamatory tweets claiming the Carleton University instructor had drugged and slept with her students.

Chelsea Hillier, who has run, unsuccessfully, for public office at both the provincial and federal level, was ordered to delete the offending tweets and post a retraction to her Twitter account for 60 days, saying the social media posts were false. She was ordered to pay $85,000 in damages, plus $12,485 in costs to Esther Post, who taught Hillier at Carleton more than a decade ago.

link (https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/chelsea-hillier-ordered-to-pay-nearly-100000-in-defamation-case)

Also, incredible photo choice here, really drives home how busted these people are.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on October 21, 2022, 01:12:08 am
Anyone else really alarmed that a bunch of low-education truck drivers brought the nation's capital to its knees for weeks, paralyzing all 3 levels of government?

You'd think the convoy was taking live hostages for something.  Be careful....they have loud horns!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on October 21, 2022, 09:52:33 am
Anyone else really alarmed that a bunch of low-education truck drivers brought the nation's capital to its knees for weeks, paralyzing all 3 levels of government?

You'd think the convoy was taking live hostages for something.  Be careful....they have loud horns!

Some (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-convoy-(non-censor-edition)/?message=84743) people (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-convoy-(non-censor-edition)/?message=84826) here (https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/canada-discussion-forum/trucker-convoy-(non-censor-edition)/?message=84876) were calling that out from the jump.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on October 21, 2022, 12:49:23 pm
And the Oscar for best actress and biggest hypocrite (#freedom) goes to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJwcYowaKFA
He’s a piece of s**t.  Picks and chooses when body autonomy and medical privacy exist, and when they don’t.  He and his ilk have no credibility.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on October 21, 2022, 12:59:31 pm
Says the guy who exercises his freedom to choose not to take the vaccine but feels he should have a say over whether a woman can get an abortion.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on October 21, 2022, 01:26:07 pm
Says the guy who exercises his freedom to choose not to take the vaccine but feels he should have a say over whether a woman can get an abortion.
That’s just not true.  I have already stated several times that abortion before a certain point is acceptable.  You’re the extremist that’s for abortion at any time, for any reason.  Btw, requiring something from somebody else isn’t a freedom.  You still don’t understand what freedoms are.  Exercising a freedom shouldn’t require anything from anybody else.  If it does, it ceases to be a freedom.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on October 21, 2022, 01:38:40 pm
Why do you think your opinion on a woman's pregnancy should be considered at all...if you really believe in bodily autonomy?
Nobody should be forced to provide abortions and no one is suggesting they should be. So there goes that argument. 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 02, 2022, 07:45:30 pm
Sooooo Doug Ford's gov wants to use the notwithstanding clause to break the union for education support workers, and the Trudeau gov is mad saying they are curtailing their rights.

Meanwhile the Trudeau gov used the Emergencies Act to curtail people's rights who were engaging in illegal behaviour (parking vehicles in the street for weeks, honking horns at night, blocking bridges) without actually trying to enforce the laws already on the books.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: kimmy on November 02, 2022, 09:07:50 pm
Sooooo Doug Ford's gov wants to use the notwithstanding clause to break the union for education support workers, and the Trudeau gov is mad saying they are curtailing their rights.

Meanwhile the Trudeau gov used the Emergencies Act to curtail people's rights who were engaging in illegal behaviour (parking vehicles in the street for weeks, honking horns at night, blocking bridges) without actually trying to enforce the laws already on the books.

Yes, invoking Emergency Measures so nonchalantly makes their criticism of Ford on this ring hollow.

Meanwhile, RCMP commish Brenda Lucki's cell phone text messages were released to the inquiry.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-top-mountie-cant-explain-text-messages-in-which-she-suggested-federal/

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According to the Emergencies Act, a public order emergency can be declared only when threats to the security of Canada are so serious that they constitute a national crisis that cannot be effectively dealt with under any other existing law.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the act on Feb. 14.

The police operation to clear the protests in Ottawa began on Feb. 18 and ended on Feb. 20. The texts released to the inquiry show that on Feb. 19 Commissioner Lucki told her OPP counterpart, Thomas Carrique, that the federal government could ask them for a letter supporting the use of the Emergencies Act retroactively.

“Has Minister Blair hit you up for a letter to support the EA?” she asked Commissioner Carrique.

He replied that he had not and asked if he should expect to hear from Emergency Preparedness Minister Bill Blair. Commissioner Lucki did not answer over text and instead said she was calling Commissioner Carrique.

On Monday Commissioner Lucki told reporters she was “never” requested to write a letter. But she couldn’t explain why she sent the text to Commissioner Carrique.

“It was conversation in a text, I’m not sure,” she told reporters.

LMAO

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Commissioner Lucki’s texts also show that she twice asked Commissioner Carrique about using a different messaging app that she said does “not store deleted messages.”

LOL

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In her text conversation with Commissioner Carrique, the top Mountie also floated the idea of putting Canadian Armed Forces members in RCMP uniforms and then incorporating them in the police response to the convoy.

LOOOOLLL.  "Soldiers with guns. Disguised as RCMP officers. In our cities. In Canada. We're not making this up."

This is the second Brenda Lucki scandal in just a couple of weeks, after the release of an audio recording that proves that her testimony to the Nova Scotia Mass Casualties Inquiry was a huge lie.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/recording-rcmp-phone-meeting-political-interference-allegations-1.6623287

It's also the second time in just a couple of weeks that Lucki has been exposed as being just a henchman for Bill Blair, which makes the RCMP mandate of independence look laughable.

Lucki needs to be gone, immediately.


 -k
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 02, 2022, 09:22:47 pm
Wow.

"Could you please change your app so that it can delete messages sso that I don't incriminate myself".

Retroactive approval recommendation for the Emergencies Act HAHAHAHAH. 

Crap really hits the fan when you have multiple levels of government and so leaders can't just push everyone around to get what they want.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on November 03, 2022, 05:22:45 am
Sooooo Doug Ford's gov wants to use the notwithstanding clause to break the union for education support workers, and the Trudeau gov is mad saying they are curtailing their rights.

Meanwhile the Trudeau gov used the Emergencies Act to curtail people's rights who were engaging in illegal behaviour (parking vehicles in the street for weeks, honking horns at night, blocking bridges) without actually trying to enforce the laws already on the books.

You need to look at the negative impacts..
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on November 03, 2022, 08:08:40 am
Yes, invoking Emergency Measures so nonchalantly makes their criticism of Ford on this ring hollow.

LMAO

LOL

LOOOOLLL.


 -k

Turns out police and CSIS members were colluding with convoy protesters to overthrow an elected government, so it seems to be justified. And given the inquiry afterward, it doesn't seem nonchalant at all.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 03, 2022, 09:57:41 am
You need to look at the negative impacts..

Like what?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on January 02, 2023, 12:22:29 pm
oh nooooos! Freedumb Convoy 2.0... the Reunion Tour scheduled for Ottawa, Feb17-to-Feb20,... cancelled!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlbQGuTXgAMn_ad?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 05, 2023, 06:47:59 am
I guess Russia has become distracted with the war and doesn't have the time and energy to fund the convoy anymore, leaving their braindead minions confused and wondering what to do next.
https://journals.lib.sfu.ca/index.php/jicw/article/view/5101
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 07, 2023, 10:42:59 am
I guess Russia has become distracted with the war and doesn't have the time and energy to fund the convoy anymore, leaving their braindead minions confused and wondering what to do next.
https://journals.lib.sfu.ca/index.php/jicw/article/view/5101

Useful idiots is how a lot of them could be described. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 07, 2023, 11:07:32 am
Useful idiots is how a lot of them could be described. 

That's giving them far too much credit.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2023, 11:10:02 am
Useful idiots is how a lot of them could be described.
Says the person carrying water for authoritarian government actions, big pharma, etc.  You guys are useful idiots of the powerful and well connected.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 07, 2023, 11:15:46 am
Says the person carrying water for authoritarian government actions, big pharma, etc.  You guys are useful idiots of the powerful and well connected.  Congratulations.
I am for Big Pharma being nationalized. Is that carrying water for them, or maybe it's insisting they remain deregulated and able to take in ridiculous profits?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 07, 2023, 12:07:44 pm
Says the person carrying water for authoritarian government actions, big pharma, etc.  You guys are useful idiots of the powerful and well connected.  Congratulations.

hey now Shady! For weeks on end PeePee has tried to avoid saying anything... anything... about the ClownConvoy he so significantly supported. Why so, hey Shady? Why so?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2023, 12:39:46 pm
hey now Shady! For weeks on end PeePee has tried to avoid saying anything... anything... about the ClownConvoy he so significantly supported. Why so, hey Shady? Why so?
It’s over, why is he supposed to talk about it now?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 07, 2023, 01:12:51 pm
It’s over, why is he supposed to talk about it now?

c'mon Shady - Poilievre has abandoned his peeps! By the by, why didn't PeePee provide testimony in the Emergencies Act review?

(https://i.imgur.com/YbxNCEb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 07, 2023, 01:14:02 pm
c'mon Shady - Poilievre has abandoned his peeps! By the by, why didn't PeePee provide testimony in the Emergencies Act review?

(https://i.imgur.com/YbxNCEb.jpeg)
Lockdowns cost billions.  I guess the lesson is don’t trample on people’s rights huh?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 07:18:04 am
Lacking any actual threats to their freedom, they've decided to try to convince these gullible idiots that planning cities so you don't have to travel more than 15 minutes to go about your day is actually a plan to FORCE you to never travel more than 15 minutes.

It's truly amazing there are so many gullible, easily manipulated people. Did too much TV and Internet just rot away their brains?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 08:44:10 am
Lacking any actual threats to their freedom, they've decided to try to convince these gullible idiots that planning cities so you don't have to travel more than 15 minutes to go about your day is actually a plan to FORCE you to never travel more than 15 minutes.

It's truly amazing there are so many gullible, easily manipulated people. Did too much TV and Internet just rot away their brains?
Forcing somebody to inject chemicals into their body IS an infringement on somebody’s freedom.  I’m not surprised you defend it though.  Covid turned you into an authoritarian sympathizer.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 08:50:08 am
You're not being forced to do anything. You shouldn't cry wolf like that. It's an insult to people whose freedoms are actually threatened.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 08:52:53 am
You're not being forced to do anything. You shouldn't cry wolf like that. It's an insult to people whose freedoms are actually threatened.
Minimizing body autonomy and medical privacy is about as nazi as it gets.  Branch Covidians are the WORST people in the world.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 09:51:19 am
I agree. And you're the one who wants control over women's bodies.
But pretending that a long-past public health initiative is the end of freedom in the West is exactly something a half-retarded Putin-stooge would try to gaslight us with
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 10:53:41 am
I agree. And you're the one who wants control over women's bodies.
But pretending that a long-past public health initiative is the end of freedom in the West is exactly something a half-retarded Putin-stooge would try to gaslight us with
You trampled people’s rights.  Dress it up however you want.  You’re a fascist.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 11:05:23 am
Yes, I admit it was me.

Do you ever suddenly realize "I must sound like an idiot right now."
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 11:08:46 am
Yes, I admit it was me.

Do you ever suddenly realize "I must sound like an idiot right now."
There’s nothing idiotic about fundamental rights.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 11:09:56 am
Luckily you people f**ed things up so badly that the public will never go along with your bullsh*t again.  That’s the only upside about the last few years.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 11:12:44 am
I bet people avoid talking to you in real life.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2023, 01:11:59 pm
Luckily you people f**ed things up so badly that the public will never go along with your bullsh*t again.  That’s the only upside about the last few years.

We already know you would go along with anything if it meant not missing a turn in the steam room at GoodLife, eh, needlecuck?

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 02:10:15 pm
It's like they're testing the water to see just how gullible and stupid their followers are. Shady, where are your memes about the fascist tyranny of walkable communities? I need this.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1620462387324387330?t=HtQk28oxr2MCFVYRWDL8WQ&s=19
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 02:23:27 pm
It's like they're testing the water to see just how gullible and stupid their followers are. Shady, where are your memes about the fascist tyranny of walkable communities? I need this.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1620462387324387330?t=HtQk28oxr2MCFVYRWDL8WQ&s=19
Stop trying to run from the authoritarianism you supported.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2023, 02:28:23 pm
It's like they're testing the water to see just how gullible and stupid their followers are. Shady, where are your memes about the fascist tyranny of walkable communities? I need this.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1620462387324387330?t=HtQk28oxr2MCFVYRWDL8WQ&s=19

The government isn't forcing people into zones with this so whatevs.  If you want to use your car and these condo buildings don't have enough spaces for you then you won't buy a condo here.

Sounds like the government is involved here in the planning though.  As long as there's condos available for people who need to use their cars that's fine.  If your work is a 30 min drive away and subway won't get you there and you have to take the bus that's pretty dumb, people won't be happy, people will vote out the politicians if they do dumb things voters don't like.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2023, 02:33:14 pm
It's like they're testing the water to see just how gullible and stupid their followers are. Shady, where are your memes about the fascist tyranny of walkable communities? I need this.
https://twitter.com/chrissaccoccia1/status/1620462387324387330?t=HtQk28oxr2MCFVYRWDL8WQ&s=19

Christ I forgot about that dollar store Andrew Tate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2023, 04:37:47 pm
The government isn't forcing people into zones with this so whatevs.  If you want to use your car and these condo buildings don't have enough spaces for you then you won't buy a condo here.

Sounds like the government is involved here in the planning though. As long as there's condos available for people who need to use their cars that's fine.  If your work is a 30 min drive away and subway won't get you there and you have to take the bus that's pretty dumb, people won't be happy, people will vote out the politicians if they do dumb things voters don't like.

Who is taking their cars away?

That said, the Globe story  (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/industry-news/property-report/article-new-toronto-development-points-to-a-shift-in-land-and-consumer-car-use/)that bug-eyed freak Chris Sacccioa links to is actually kind of interesting.

Quote
“The whole business model for dealers needs to be rethought,” says Wes Neichenbauer, co-president of Rowntree Enterprises, the Leslie Street site’s lead developer, which has built its business on establishing sites for car dealerships.

“It comes down to land values. A dealership is really several services – new car sales, used cars, service, parts, body shop and leasing,” he explains. “The inventory of cars on the lot, the service centres and the showrooms take up a lot of space.״

The realization that all this space isn’t needed anymore to sell and fix cars points to a shift in land use. ״People already can go to a shopping mall and buy an electric vehicle that can be serviced without having to bring it in and put it on a hoist,” Mr. Neichenbauer says.

Car dealerships are the biggest scams going, the thought of them going the way of the dodo is very satisfying.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 08, 2023, 05:34:14 pm
Who is taking their cars away?

That said, the Globe story  (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/industry-news/property-report/article-new-toronto-development-points-to-a-shift-in-land-and-consumer-car-use/)that bug-eyed freak Chris Sacccioa links to is actually kind of interesting.

I never said anyone is taking cars away.  They just aren't building as many spots for condo owners in this development to park because they want to reduce cars use.  Says so right in the article.  But if people want or need to drive cars they just won't buy a condo at this building.  Since this development apparently isn't downtown they could be simply reducing the value of these condos if less people want to purchase one.

Quote
Car dealerships are the biggest scams going, the thought of them going the way of the dodo is very satisfying.

Yeah they are shmucks.  But someone has to sell the cars and give test drives etc.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 08, 2023, 05:37:14 pm
Yeah they are shmucks.  But someone has to sell the cars and give test drives etc.
God forbid you can go somewhere and see a car up close, and test drive it.  The far left only knows how to destroy.  It can’t build anything, so they’re constantly looking around society to find new things to eliminate.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 08, 2023, 05:53:48 pm
Actually it's pure free market capitalism, which the far left abhors. If you can implement a marketing system that doesn't require acres of land but generates similar (or better) revenue, the free market will dictate that you sell that surplus land for a profit.

Yes, I really just had to explain that to you.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2023, 06:51:36 pm
.

Yeah they are shmucks.  But someone has to sell the cars and give test drives etc.

The manufacturers can sell direct to consumers without a middleman.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 08, 2023, 06:52:43 pm
God forbid you can go somewhere and see a car up close, and test drive it.  The far left only knows how to destroy.  It can’t build anything, so they’re constantly looking around society to find new things to eliminate.

Imagine being an Elon Musk dickrider and not knowing that Tesla sells direct to consumers lol.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 10, 2023, 07:45:27 am
What a surprise! Truckers supported by Putin. Whoda thunk?

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/02/10/analysis/russian-propaganda-freedom-convoy-disinformation?utm_source=National+Observer&utm_campaign=b333397a48-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_02_10_02_46&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cacd0f141f-b333397a48-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 10, 2023, 08:37:46 am
What a surprise! Truckers supported by Putin. Whoda thunk?

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/02/10/analysis/russian-propaganda-freedom-convoy-disinformation?utm_source=National+Observer&utm_campaign=b333397a48-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_02_10_02_46&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cacd0f141f-b333397a48-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D
😂😂😂
You’re insane.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 10, 2023, 09:16:07 am
😂😂😂
You’re insane.
You're a Russian asset, you know it, and you continue. In the old days, we called you traitorous scum.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 10, 2023, 09:24:22 am
You're a Russian asset, you know it, and you continue. In the old days, we called you traitorous scum.
Everything you don’t like isn’t always connected to Russia.  A good therapist will help you sort that you.  I wish you luck.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 10, 2023, 09:36:06 am
How do you guys explain getting so much RT press coverage? Why are they such big promoters of you?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 10, 2023, 10:24:54 am
How do you guys explain getting so much RT press coverage? Why are they such big promoters of you?
Nobody watches RT. 🤣
Maybe you should care about fundamental rights more than Russians.  It’s kind of f**ked up that you don’t, don’t you think?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 10, 2023, 10:26:17 am
How do you guys explain getting so much RT press coverage? Why are they such big promoters of you?

I think there's a difference between promotion and material support. I don't think Putin/Russia were all that effective at actively stirring up the idiots as much as they were simply capitalizing on them.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2023, 12:10:11 pm
RT should be banned as foreign propaganda from a state that means us harm.  Putin don't get free speech in this country.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 10, 2023, 11:32:16 pm
Everything you don’t like isn’t always connected to Russia.  A good therapist will help you sort that you.  I wish you luck.
Nobody watches RT. 🤣
Maybe you should care about fundamental rights more than Russians.  It’s kind of f**ked up that you don’t, don’t you think?

Poilievre/CPC <=> Putin lackeys
... further to Bubber's earlier linked reference - the 1st of a 3-part series:

National Observer - Caroline Orr: Russia used state-funded propaganda outlet to whip up support for the ‘Freedom Convoy’ and undermine the Trudeau government (https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/02/10/analysis/russian-propaganda-freedom-convoy-disinformation)

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Homegrown protesters who participated in Canada’s “Freedom Convoy” last year had no idea, but Russia used a state-funded propaganda outlet in an effort to exploit their grievances, amplify social divisions and delegitimize the Trudeau government. The convoy’s three-week occupation of downtown Ottawa clogged the capital and prompted the government to invoke the Emergencies Act before police cleared the blockades.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 17, 2023, 07:06:41 am
So the report is out today.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/02/16/emergencies-act-report/

I am ambivalent (surprise) about what went down here.  But I won't accept that "Canada is not a democracy" or some such claptrap based on how much bandwidth these people got, the number of warnings, and the relatively light justice that went to all but the organizers.

Does anybody else get sick of these "not a democracy" people hogging the mike ?  They're going to school boards now.  It's like they think by talking more they will get their way.

I am a nice guy so I don't think they should be rounded up and put into re-education camps run by yours truly.  No, not at all.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Coolio on February 17, 2023, 08:42:09 am
These idiots should be in jail. It's obvious that they are a hate-filled White Supremacist group, intent on overthrowing the democratic institutions of our nation.  COVID was just a convieint excuse for them to push their agenda.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 17, 2023, 09:19:50 am
These idiots should be in jail. It's obvious that they are a hate-filled White Supremacist group, intent on overthrowing the democratic institutions of our nation.  COVID was just a convieint excuse for them to push their agenda.

Some of the "leaders" were ... sort of ... they were brain-scrambled lowlife firebrands who connected with online populism, Patreon or so forth...

There were some "real fine people" ....

And a lot of know-nothing partiers - several of whom are friends of mine - who just like protests ...

Done and done.  Democracy survived.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2023, 12:53:03 pm
Federal government met the threshold to invoke Emergencies Act: Commissioner Paul Rouleau --- Report calls out policing failures and Ontario's inaction during an 'unsafe and chaotic' protest

Quote from: leader of the CPC, Poilievre
I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them

(https://i.imgur.com/2pIbex6.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 02:09:38 pm
Federal government met the threshold
Sure it did! 😂😂😂
Honking vehicles is the new threshold!  This country is f**ked.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 17, 2023, 02:18:06 pm
Blocking the supply chain does not equal honking vehicles.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 02:26:39 pm
Blocking the supply chain does not equal honking vehicles.
The protest in downtown Ottawa wasn’t blocking supply chains.  The protest on the ambassador bridge was, and was removed without any need of the emergencies act.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2023, 02:37:10 pm
Blocking the supply chain does not equal honking vehicles.

Why didn't the Trudeau government enact the Emergencies Act against the indigenous protestors blocking Canadian railways across the country?  This also disrupted national supply chains.

My assumption is that the Trudeau gov is racist, and has racist and ideological double-standards.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 17, 2023, 02:38:10 pm
You would have hailed the independent inquiry if it reached the conclusion you hoped it would.  You discredit it because it didn't. That's just how you roll.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest7 on February 17, 2023, 02:41:55 pm
Never mind the supply chain.  I would support serious punishment for anyone who won't let me get to sleep.

Tossers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 02:48:13 pm
Never mind the supply chain.  I would support serious punishment for anyone who won't let me get to sleep.

Tossers.
True.  But there are consequences when people’s fundamental rights are trampled by the government.  They’re ultimately the reason why people weren’t getting sleep.  Because of illogical and unscientific vaccine mandates.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest7 on February 17, 2023, 02:50:06 pm
True.  But there are consequences when people’s fundamental rights are trampled by the government.  They’re ultimately the reason why people weren’t getting sleep.  Because of illogical and unscientific vaccine mandates.

It was more likely because of the horns...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 17, 2023, 02:57:37 pm
You would have hailed the independent inquiry if it reached the conclusion you hoped it would.  You discredit it because it didn't.

That's absolutely correct.

The difference between you and I is that I think George Floyd, indigenous protestors, and convoy truckers should not have their rights trampled by government, while you and your ilk (including Trudeau gov) pick and choose who deserves rights based on things like their political leanings and ethnicity.  You either believe in liberal democracy or you don't.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on February 17, 2023, 03:30:56 pm
Why didn't the Trudeau government enact the Emergencies Act against the indigenous protestors blocking Canadian railways across the country?  This also disrupted national supply chains.

My assumption is that the Trudeau gov is racist, and has racist and ideological double-standards.

You're right but not in the way you think you are.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 04:24:18 pm
That's absolutely correct.

The difference between you and I is that I think George Floyd, indigenous protestors, and convoy truckers should not have their rights trampled by government, while you and your ilk (including Trudeau gov) pick and choose who deserves rights based on things like their political leanings and ethnicity.  You either believe in liberal democracy or you don't.
They’ve even admitted to their support of the uneven application of the law, based on political preferences.  They make no bones about it.  And they wonder why they’re called Stalinists.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2023, 05:06:09 pm
The protest on the ambassador bridge was, and was removed without any need of the emergencies act.

Quote from: Drew Dilkens, Windsor mayor giving testimony before the EA Inquiry
From an Emergencies Act perspective, anything that would send a signal to people contemplating coming to Windsor to start this over again I thought from my chair was extremely helpful. That ought to have sent a signal that this was a serious matter and would not be allowed to happen again.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 17, 2023, 05:09:57 pm
that's right waldo, that's right! Documented support provided by the CPC... the 'Convoy Party of Canada'!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpHcHtdaIAEoshD?format=jpg)


Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 05:39:18 pm
that's right waldo, that's right! Documented support provided by the CPC... the 'Convoy Party of Canada'!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpHcHtdaIAEoshD?format=jpg)
Good.  There’s nothing wrong with supporting legitimate protest.  You’re so out of touch, you think this is some kind of scarlet letter.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 05:43:23 pm

You don’t invoke the emergencies act to “send a message”, Jesus Christ, list to yourselves.  Have you no shame?  Infringing on people’s rights to send a message?

It doesn’t really surprise me that this was justified.  After all, Japanese Canadian internment camps were also defended and justified for many many years after WWII.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 17, 2023, 06:43:32 pm
.  You’re so out of touch, you think this is some kind of scarlet letter.
On the contrary, you're so out of touch you don't realize it is. And know who hates the trucker convoys more than anyone? Actual truckers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 17, 2023, 08:10:37 pm
On the contrary, you're so out of touch you don't realize it is. And know who hates the trucker convoys more than anyone? Actual truckers.
You don’t infringe on people’s rights based on if those people are hated or not.  Again with the uneven application of the law.  That’s how authoritarian dictators run a country.  No real surprise that you’re defending this though.  You’ve pretty much gone full authoritarian several years ago.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 07:45:06 am
To avoid any appearance of authoritarianism, we should have an independent commission look into it and determine whether the use of the emergencies act was justified under the circumstances. Oh wait...

Since that's already been settled, how about we have an independent commission look into Ford's use of the notwithstanding clause, now that you're an anti-authoritarian champion of human rights?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2023, 11:38:01 am
per internal CPC email from CPC leader Bergen to senior Conservative MPs (as obtained by CTV News):

Quote from: CPC leader Candice Bergen
I don’t think we should be asking them to go home. I understand the mood may shift soon. So we need to turn this into the PMs problem.

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2023, 11:53:20 am
There’s nothing wrong with supporting legitimate protest.

per the Ottawa People's Commission report - a community-led inquiry that held over a dozen public hearings documenting the experiences of Ottawa residents during the occupation and the harmful impacts of the convoy on the community:

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Despite claims from many convoy supporters, including some Canadian political leaders, that the events of January and February 2022 were nothing more than a peaceful protest, the OPC commissioners heard abundant testimony making clear the convoy blockade was, in fact, an occupation of downtown Ottawa with violence at its heart.

For three-and-a-half weeks, Canada’s capital was held hostage by a group with diverse interests — including some known to be members of the far right — who trumpeted their intent to shut down Ottawa. Local residents and businesses were then abandoned by authorities and left unprotected against unruly, sometimes violent occupiers who perpetrated a range of human rights abuses.

It was an occupation. Three weeks of gridlocked streets, weaponized truck horns, and toxic fumes set this event apart from other protests that are commonplace in Ottawa. Threats to residents and businesses in the red zone were ignored by police and bylaw officers as protesters installed themselves throughout residential Centretown.  The convoy was also allowed to set up a base camp along Coventry Road, which endangered Vanier and Overbrook residents, who pleaded for authorities to enforce the law. Despite making clear their goals to gridlock the city before their cross-country journey, the convoy was met with no resistance from authorities.

It was unquestionably violent. Blockading residences and businesses with big rigs, blaring horns incessantly at harmful decibel levels, convoy participants created a climate of hostility and aggression wherever they went in Ottawa. Many residents reported being accosted and even assaulted by convoy participants for wearing masks. Some were intimidated, threatened and insulted with racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic and other taunts, as well as with displays of antisemitic and racist flags, banners and posters. This conduct constitutes violence.

wait now waldo, isn't PeePee's riding of Carleton in Ottawa? Oh my!
(https://i.imgur.com/YbxNCEb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 12:36:46 pm
To avoid any appearance of authoritarianism, we should have an independent commission look into it and determine whether the use of the emergencies act was justified under the circumstances. Oh wait...

You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2023, 01:17:01 pm
You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.
Exactly.  It’s funny that the biggest so called proponents of “democracy” aren’t really proponents of real democracy, just the appearance of it.  They don’t like the sometimes messiness of real democracy.  That’s why they prefer the orderly and clean appearance of it.  Another example of it is when these same people lit they’re hair on fire because the vote for the speaker in the House of Representatives took a few days longer than it usually does.  A few days.  But that’s real democracy.  Real democracy isn’t always rubber stamping things.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 01:31:00 pm
Again, if the commission said what you guys wanted to hear, you would have praised its good judgement. When they say what you don't want to hear, suddenly it was all corrupt from the start.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2023, 01:44:16 pm
You think it was independent commission?

The judge heading the inquiry was hand- selected by the Prime Minister.  He was a liberal party member and worked for the John Turner campaign after Pierre Trudeau resigned in the 80s.  He was hand- selected to be a judge by Paul Martin.

does Nipples wear conspiracy well? LOL! Rouleau had a very short foray into politics... but c'mon, how many decades is required before conspiratorialNipples lowers his brazen innuendo charges?

surely Nipples, out of a 200 page report, you must be able to find something that rises above your perpetual conspiracy targeting - surely!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 18, 2023, 01:50:51 pm
The Trudeau government investigated itself.  This is an affront to our democracy. The man has shown time and again he's a tyrant. Ask Jody Wilson Raybould.  Ask Stats Canada who attempted to force banks to secretly allow them to look at any Canadians bank account activity without their knowledge or consent.

Saint Jody? Really! Nipples is a stooge - don't be Nipples!

the Stats Can want was to 'secure' some representative randomized 500K Canadians banking transactional information... related data that would be secure & anonymized. Data necessary given the Harper Conservatives ended the mandatory long-form census.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 18, 2023, 01:52:44 pm
Does anyone think that the Coutts standoff and Ambassador Bridge protests didn't warrant a strong response?  An emergency response?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 03:23:31 pm
Saint Jody? Really! Nipples is a stooge - don't be Nipples!

the Stats Can want was to 'secure' some representative randomized 500K Canadians banking transactional information... related data that would be secure & anonymized. Data necessary given the Harper Conservatives ended the mandatory long-form census.

The Trudeau gov brought back the long form census for the 2016 census.  What are you talking about?

Now explain why Health Canada was secretly tracking the cell phone movements of every Canadian during the covid lockdowns to study compliance... and how the heck did they acquire that data... and why didn't they tell anyone, and why don't they believe in informed consent?

Let's see you dance, tyrant.  Dance for me waldo, go!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 03:29:51 pm
Again, if the commission said what you guys wanted to hear, you would have praised its good judgement. When they say what you don't want to hear, suddenly it was all corrupt from the start.

Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?

A requirement for the emergencies act is that no other Canadian laws could deal with the situation in question.   Maybe they could have tried enforcing the law that states you can't park on the street illegally, park in border crossing bridges illegally, or disturb the peace at night (by honking horns).

When did they try to enforce those laws?  Who did they try to arrest?

If police didn't have access to tow trucks, maybe at most the emergencies act could have been used to get the military to lend some towing gear to the local police.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 18, 2023, 03:38:09 pm
Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?

A requirement for the emergencies act is that no other Canadian laws could deal with the situation in question.   Maybe they could have tried enforcing the law that states you can't park on the street illegally, park in border crossing blushes illegal, or disturb the peace at night (by honking horns).

When did they try to enforce those laws?  Who did they try to arrest?

If police didn't have access to tow trucks, maybe at most the emergencies act could have been used to get the military to lend some towing gear to the local police.
Exactly.  Existing laws were enforced to remove the protest on the ambassador bridge, without any need for the emergencies act.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 04:40:22 pm
Why are you asking me? Why don't you read the report of the commission that suddenly became "corrupt" the moment you didn't like what it said.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 04:41:46 pm
Why are you asking me? Why don't you read the report of the commission that suddenly became "corrupt" the moment you didn't like what it said.

I'm asking you to think.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 05:10:57 pm
No, you aren't. You're asking me to believe the whole commission was corrupt without any real evidence to support your theory.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 05:17:53 pm
No, you aren't. You're asking me to believe the whole commission was corrupt without any real evidence to support your theory.

No that's not what I asked.  I said  "Did it have good judgement? Was it corrupt from the start?"

You seem to be assuming it had good judgement and wasn't corrupt, without evidence or argument whatsoever, other than "it was independent".  Just because something is called "independent" doesn't mean it is.  Trudeau hand-picked the judge, and who was chosen by Paul Martin to be a judge in the first place and who formerly worked for the Liberal Party.  Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

Have you considered the possibility that Trudeau picked a judge who was more likely to weigh in his favour?  Does this judge sound non-partisan and "independent" to you?  Does this judge owe any favours to the Liberal Party?  Does he think like a Liberal?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 05:20:50 pm
I have questions too. If Trudeau is so omniscient in his corruption and can just orchestrate everybody to do what he wants, how come his government keeps getting hit with ethical violations?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 05:37:13 pm
I have questions too. If Trudeau is so omniscient in his corruption and can just orchestrate everybody to do what he wants, how come his government keeps getting hit with ethical violations?

I never said he had total control over the accountability offices.  Ask yourself why the the government in power gets to pick the people who investigate them, including the ethics commissioner?

Also ask yourself why the Trudeau gov didn't enact the Emergencies Act during the indigenous railway blockades in 2020, and if you or Trudeau would have supported using the Emergencies Act if the convoy was made up of indigenous protestors against vaccine mandates?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 05:38:33 pm
I totally would have. Blockades are unacceptable.
But why weren't you questioning the makeup of the commission when it was formed? Why wait till now?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 06:20:42 pm
I totally would have. Blockades are unacceptable.
But why weren't you questioning the makeup of the commission when it was formed? Why wait till now?

Because I don't agree with the findings and so i looked into the commission and found liberal party links to the judge on his wikipedia page?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 06:22:51 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 06:48:23 pm
Exactly.

What's your point?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 18, 2023, 07:03:41 pm
That when you heard findings you didn't like, you immediately looked for ways to discredit the commission. You didn't discredit it before because you thought it might tell you what you wanted to hear.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 18, 2023, 08:04:34 pm
1. That when you heard findings you didn't like, you immediately looked for ways to discredit the commission.

You didn't discredit it before because you thought it might tell you what you wanted to hear.

1. That's right, that's exactly what I did. 

2.  I wasn't even following the inquiry LOL.  But it took me about 3 seconds to see a few problems with it.

Congrats, you were able to take away the Charter rights of Canadians you don't like politically, are you happy?

FYI I didn't support the truckers breaking the law in any way.  I was also critical of the rights taken away from Canadians when all those lefties protested during the Toronto G20 summit.  Our rights aren't a partisan issue.  Maybe they'll take yours away next.

Things usually go better these days when people just follow the law, including the government and police, and if the laws are bad, change the laws.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2023, 09:47:03 am
Congrats, you were able to take away the Charter rights of Canadians you don't like politically, are you happy?

(https://i.imgur.com/JCsz1A0.gif)

Nipples - you're welcome!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2023, 11:23:13 am
the Director of Communications for the Conservative Party of Canada, Sarah Fischer... while on her way to a 'bouncy castle', stopped for a lil' horn-honking fun! Oh my! (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1626703172700983296/pu/vid/720x1280/eCnmwPGoJgaH8Psd.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2023, 11:37:31 am
whaaa! PeePee is asked about Rouleau's report findings... and if he regrets supporting the so-called "Freedom Convoy", the swarmy Poilievre turns the question into an attack against the journalist, charging CBC bias! (https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1626993035761315847/vid/1080x1080/j8BxZfewH6JXmg9k.mp4?tag=16)

just how thin is Poilievre's skin, hey!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2023, 11:59:54 am
further to the response Poilievre provided when asked about the findings of the EA inquiry... per Commissioner Paul Rouleau's report:

Quote from: CPC leader Poilievre
This was an emergency that Justin Trudeau created by attacking his own population, by driving up their cost of living, by making it impossible for people to pay their bills and live their lives in peace.

(https://i.imgur.com/WUT2DaY.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 19, 2023, 12:06:32 pm
And know who hates the trucker convoys more than anyone? Actual truckers.

(https://i.imgur.com/cx490JG.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/t9FDSs1.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 20, 2023, 08:02:01 am
Congrats, you were able to take away the Charter rights of Canadians you don't like politically, are you happy?
 
Your personalization of the debate is strangely shady-like, Junior. But since waldo already showed how the Charter was still supported, how come---Charter warrior that you now are---you said nothing about peepee's support this week for provinces being able to pre-emptively use the notwithstanding clause?

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/robert-libman-so-much-for-poilievres-championing-of-freedom
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2023, 08:06:37 am
further to the response Poilievre provided when asked about the findings of the EA inquiry... per Commissioner Paul Rouleau's report:

(https://i.imgur.com/WUT2DaY.jpeg)
This is peak libtard.  Anyone that values fundamental rights is a racist! 😂
Freedom is a “right wing” concept now.  Yikes, is our country ever f**ked.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on February 20, 2023, 08:08:23 am
Your personalization of the debate is strangely shady-like, Junior. But since waldo already showed how the Charter was still supported, how come---Charter warrior that you now are---you said nothing about peepee's support this week for provinces being able to pre-emptively use the notwithstanding clause?

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/robert-libman-so-much-for-poilievres-championing-of-freedom
Lol!  Yes, freezing people’s bank accounts with no court order is Charter approved!  😂
Our country is f**kee thanks to authoritarians like you.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 20, 2023, 08:55:31 am
You should read the report.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 20, 2023, 07:37:45 pm
Your personalization of the debate is strangely shady-like, Junior. But since waldo already showed how the Charter was still supported, how come---Charter warrior that you now are---you said nothing about peepee's support this week for provinces being able to pre-emptively use the notwithstanding clause?

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/robert-libman-so-much-for-poilievres-championing-of-freedom

I don't particularly like Peepee or support him.   I don't think he should have supported the convoy protestors who were engaging in illegal actions. I've never heard of this story before.  I'll have to read it when I have more time.

It doesn't matter what waldo or the government says.  The Emergencies Act took away people's charter rights.   What do you think the Act is for anyways?

They violated freedom of movement and freedom of association (blocked off public streets downtown, didn't allow children into the protest area) and froze people's bank accounts, which probably falls under search and seizure or whatnot.  Maybe there's other violations I'm missing
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 20, 2023, 08:43:50 pm
Waldo has already pointed out how the Charter accomodates necessary use of the Emergencies Act and it's use has already been deemed appropriate. That's why they didn't need to use the notwithstanding clause---because the Charter wasn't violated.
Meanwhile Ford has violated it just to engage in union busting...but nary a peep.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest7 on February 20, 2023, 08:45:53 pm
I don't particularly like Peepee or support him.   I don't think he should have supported the convoy protestors who were engaging in illegal actions. I've never heard of this story before.  I'll have to read it when I have more time.

It doesn't matter what waldo or the government says.  The Emergencies Act took away people's charter rights.   What do you think the Act is for anyways?

They violated freedom of movement and freedom of association (blocked off public streets downtown, didn't allow children into the protest area) and froze people's bank accounts, which probably falls under search and seizure or whatnot.  Maybe there's other violations I'm missing

Didn't the truckers violate freedom of movement and freedom of association for everyone else?  And freedom of sleep.  They should all be in jail.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2023, 12:55:05 am
Waldo has already pointed out how the Charter accomodates necessary use of the Emergencies Act and it's use has already been deemed appropriate. That's why they didn't need to use the notwithstanding clause---because the Charter wasn't violated.
Meanwhile Ford has violated it just to engage in union busting...but nary a peep.

What up with the whattaboutism?

So you're saying something like since the Charter says the
emergencies Act can crap all over our Charter rights legally that Charter rights weren't violated?

The Charter sure is flawed.  Wtf the purpose of it if politicians can take a dump on it whenever they like.  Pierre Trudeau is a moron for making this garbage.

Can Doug Ford just use the notwithstanding clause and start raping babies?  F*ck this retarded country.   I'd move to America if it wasn't strapped to the eyeballs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on February 21, 2023, 12:56:12 am
Didn't the truckers violate freedom of movement and freedom of association for everyone else?  And freedom of sleep.  They should all be in jail.

They should have been arrested.  The police were scared of bumpy castles.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on February 21, 2023, 06:02:54 am
Actually it was Sterling Lyon who came up with the notwithstanding clause, not Pierre. Pierre didn't want it at all.
And it isn't exactly whataboutism to point out that Trudeau's actions were consistent with the Charter but Ford's were not.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: wilber on February 21, 2023, 09:11:22 am
They should have been arrested.  The police were scared of bumpy castles.

Having to shut down Rideau Centre resulted in 20 million a week in lost revenues and lots of lost jobs.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest7 on February 21, 2023, 10:16:03 am
They should have been arrested.  The police were scared of bumpy castles.

What bumpy castles?  Were they blocking a bridge?  Were they disturbing the peace?   Were they storing weapons in the Coutts castle?

Those damn castles!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 21, 2023, 10:40:18 am
own it Poilievre!

(https://i.imgur.com/nxl7RN9.png)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 21, 2023, 11:37:49 am
re: Report of the Public Inquiry into the 2022 Public Order Emergency

Quote from: Commissioner Paul Rouleau
I find the province of Ontario's reluctance to become fully engaged in such efforts directed at resolving the situation in Ottawa troubling. Premier Doug Ford and his cabinet were absent during a crisis in a city in their jurisdiction and skipped out on two "tripartite meetings" with federal and city representatives trying to collaborate on a plan. Given that the city and its police service were clearly overwhelmed, it was incumbent on the province to become visibly, publicly and wholeheartedly engaged from the outset.

(https://i.imgur.com/xFDzrjU.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on March 02, 2023, 12:01:03 pm
what say you putinistas PeePee, Shady et al?

National Observer - Caroline Orr: Calls for Trudeau to step down during ‘Freedom Convoy’ traced back to Russian proxy sites (https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/02/16/analysis/trudeau-resignation-freedom-convoy-russian-proxy-sites)

convoy organizer 'Ron Clark' calls for Putin to, "grab our Prime Minister and his whole caucus and come and take them - we'll even help you load them up" (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1631021080017096710/pu/vid/518x270/ZwqpsaOGUkcUfdtB.mp4?tag=12)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 18, 2023, 06:36:53 am
Heads up.

Looks like a new Convoy is brewing.

This one is set to be motivated by a movie, the sound of freedom.. look it up.

They're protesting child trafficking.  But there's a whole convoy of conspiracy theories in tow... vaccines, WEF...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 18, 2023, 10:24:16 am
Here's something they're upset about, which is justifiable:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9837508/man-convicted-human-trafficking-living-ontario-childrens-centre/?fbclid=IwAR2mF9jOI5T8B63tJrpETte3fZr3I914eIWr_pZ0L2WN8eXW9hCl-Y7-HMQ

I am wondering if this could be a backdoor opportunity for "the" public to get connected to government really.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 10:49:28 am
Heads up.

Looks like a new Convoy is brewing.

This one is set to be motivated by a movie, the sound of freedom.. look it up.

They're protesting child trafficking.  But there's a whole convoy of conspiracy theories in tow... vaccines, WEF...
Hey when’s the illegal native protest gonna he broken up?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 18, 2023, 10:53:10 am
Hey when’s the illegal native protest gonna he broken up?  Just wondering.

Of course Native People are prioritized when they protest - even if they're not blocking the Ambassador Bridge for days or shutting down the Capital.

They squatted in a campground in the 90s and Mike Harris had them shot.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 10:57:16 am
Of course Native People are prioritized when they protest - even if they're not blocking the Ambassador Bridge for days or shutting down the Capital.

They squatted in a campground in the 90s and Mike Harris had them shot.
I was just wondering when their current illegal protest is going to be broken up?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 18, 2023, 11:35:53 am
I was just wondering when their current illegal protest is going to be broken up?

I'm not following it.   Hopefully they'll get as much slack as the truckers did.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 18, 2023, 12:33:19 pm
I was just wondering when their current illegal protest is going to be broken up?
Try to keep up.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/blockade-brady-road-landfill-torn-down-1.6909848
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 18, 2023, 01:09:43 pm
Of course Native People are prioritized when they protest - even if they're not blocking the Ambassador Bridge for days or shutting down the Capital.

They squatted in a campground in the 90s and Mike Harris had them shot.

They also blocked railways across the country for weeks a few years ago.  No emergencies act was brought in.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 01:21:09 pm
Try to keep up.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/blockade-brady-road-landfill-torn-down-1.6909848
Try to keep up?  The link is from today, updated 1 hour ago.  It’s weird though how you pick and choose which illegal protests you focus on.  It’s almost as though politics comes into play.  Nahhhh, couldn’t be.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 18, 2023, 01:27:05 pm
They blocked a dump not a supply chain and, to your disappointment, were dealt with appropriately by the police.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 01:43:59 pm
They blocked a dump not a supply chain and, to your disappointment, were dealt with appropriately by the police.
So some illegal protests are ok with you.  Cool, just wanted to get clarification.  Regardless, the Ottawa convoy didn’t block and supply chains.  But natives blocking railways did.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 18, 2023, 02:16:02 pm
They blocked a dump not a supply chain and, to your disappointment, were dealt with appropriately by the police.

They blockaded supply chains nationwide a few years ago.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/21/trudeaus-rail-blockades-116599

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 03:38:43 pm
They blockaded supply chains nationwide a few years ago.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/21/trudeaus-rail-blockades-116599
Yeah, but the right kind of people blocked the supply chain, so people like Blubber Slimy give them a pass.  If it’s people that are fighting for body autonomy and medical privacy, they’re called nazis.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 18, 2023, 04:07:36 pm
So some illegal protests are ok with you.  Cool, just wanted to get clarification.  Regardless, the Ottawa convoy didn’t block and supply chains.  But natives blocking railways did.
You don't know what "appropriately" means? Really?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 18, 2023, 05:30:40 pm
You don't know what "appropriately" means? Really?
And then you idiots downplay important things like body autonomy and medical privacy as freedumb.  Xi and Putin would be proud.  They also think those kinds of things are dumb and overrated.  How does it feel to be useful idiots?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 18, 2023, 05:56:15 pm
And then you idiots downplay important things like body autonomy and medical privacy as freedumb.  Xi and Putin would be proud.  They also think those kinds of things are dumb and overrated.  How does it feel to be useful idiots?
Now you're talking gibberish because you looked up "appropriately" and feel stupid for totally misunderstanding what I said? 😂
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2023, 12:04:45 am
Insults aren't arguments, they're just a diversion tactic.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 19, 2023, 06:03:15 am
You think shady knew what "appropriately" meant and just deliberately pretended to misunderstand because he felt like he was at a disadvantage otherwise? It's plausible.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 19, 2023, 06:18:59 am
They also blocked railways across the country for weeks a few years ago.  No emergencies act was brought in.

I doubt that there was much economic impact.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 19, 2023, 06:34:58 am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

Blocking CN lines between Toronto and Montreal do not have nearly the same impact as blocking the Ambassador bridge.

When the mohawks blocked that bridge, it was a lot more organized and purposeful. Also they did not block it for very long, as opposed to the unfocused blockade by the convoy sympathizers.

I would say that it's true that the two major political parties are more sensitive to blockades that their own constituents care about more than the others.

But to me the golden spike in this discussion is Mike Harris telling the opp to get the Indians out of the park, after which they shot them.   
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2023, 08:45:22 am
I doubt that there was much economic impact.

Why?  Lots of goods are shipped by rail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/business/2020/2/14/1_4812632.html
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2023, 08:57:44 am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2020_Canadian_pipeline_and_railway_protests

Blocking CN lines between Toronto and Montreal do not have nearly the same impact as blocking the Ambassador bridge.

When the mohawks blocked that bridge, it was a lot more organized and purposeful. Also they did not block it for very long, as opposed to the unfocused blockade by the convoy sympathizers.

I would say that it's true that the two major political parties are more sensitive to blockades that their own constituents care about more than the others.

But to me the golden spike in this discussion is Mike Harris telling the opp to get the Indians out of the park, after which they shot them.

The Mike Harris thing was almost 30 years ago.  There was a double standard then.   Now the double standard has swung the other way.  We know most people including the federal government would have been more sympathetic if the convoy was an indigenous protest.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on July 19, 2023, 08:59:53 am
Why?  Lots of goods are shipped by rail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/business/2020/2/14/1_4812632.html
He doubts it because the protesters in this case are favourable to him.  See, the circumstances don’t matter as much as the who is doing does.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 19, 2023, 09:44:49 am
Why?  Lots of goods are shipped by rail.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/business/2020/2/14/1_4812632.html

I was a transportation consultant around then.  VIA was cancelled, but CN shipped via CP tracks which run parallel.

It's a weird dichotomy for people to say Trudeau is fake and yet somehow believe that he cares so much about First Nations folks.  Hint: It's the money.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on July 19, 2023, 09:45:21 am
He doubts it because the protesters in this case are favourable to him.  See, the circumstances don’t matter as much as the who is doing does.

I think you don't like facts.

Which of the two of us wavers from a "party line" more ?  Hint: Me.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2023, 02:07:41 pm
I was a transportation consultant around then.  VIA was cancelled, but CN shipped via CP tracks which run parallel.

It's a weird dichotomy for people to say Trudeau is fake and yet somehow believe that he cares so much about First Nations folks.  Hint: It's the money.

Well he wants to appear that he cares.  He doesn't care about seeming to care about vaccine mandate protestors.  There's no virtue to signal and no votes to earn there.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on July 19, 2023, 03:30:45 pm
  We know most people including the federal government would have been more sympathetic if the convoy was an indigenous protest.
I'm not sure about that, but we know for sure the police would have shut down an indigenous protest a lot quicker. Those shutdowns happen so fast, shady doesn't even have a chance to ask why they aren't happening.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on July 19, 2023, 04:09:46 pm
I'm not sure about that, but we know for sure the police would have shut down an indigenous protest a lot quicker. Those shutdowns happen so fast, shady doesn't even have a chance to ask why they aren't happening.

Didn't happen in 2020.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on July 30, 2023, 12:19:42 pm
surprise, surprise, surprise!

2 motions before the courts:

=> convoy organizers try to quash $300 million lawsuit --- "the lawsuit should be dismissed because the legal action against them unduly limits their freedom of expression in a matter of public interest."

=> defendants want their respective court cases to be moved away from Ottawa... apparently... they believe they can't get a fair unbiased trial in the Ottawa area - go figure! 

(https://i.imgur.com/QUbdQwW.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 03, 2023, 09:50:56 pm
Bob Rae needs to STFU and retire.

The truckers went over the line at times, so did the government.  They should both be sued and punished for it.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on August 03, 2023, 10:33:32 pm
surprise, surprise, surprise!

2 motions before the courts:

=> convoy organizers try to quash $300 million lawsuit --- "the lawsuit should be dismissed because the legal action against them unduly limits their freedom of expression in a matter of public interest."

=> defendants want their respective court cases to be moved away from Ottawa... apparently... they believe they can't get a fair unbiased trial in the Ottawa area - go figure! 

(https://i.imgur.com/QUbdQwW.jpg)
Waldo”a restring to Bob Rae quotes! 😂😂😂
I wonder brain dead Bob feels the same about native blockades?  What about BLM riots?  Regardless, his idiot take makes no sense at all.  But you know what helps calm protest?  No acting like authoritarian a$$holes, eroding basic rights like body autonomy and medical privacy you old fat f**k.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Coolio on August 03, 2023, 11:49:28 pm
Heads up.

Looks like a new Convoy is brewing.

This one is set to be motivated by a movie, the sound of freedom.. look it up.

They're protesting child trafficking.  But there's a whole convoy of conspiracy theories in tow... vaccines, WEF...

The trucker convoy has a new logo:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_NSDAP_%281920%E2%80%931945%29.svg.png)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on August 04, 2023, 05:58:59 am
The truckers went over the line at times, so did the government.  They should both be sued and punished for it.

hey now Nipples! What levels of government... went over what lines?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 04, 2023, 06:24:33 am
There's another Convoy brewing...

The Save The Children convoy is propelled by the movie Sound of Freedom...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on August 04, 2023, 06:31:29 am
surprise, surprise, surprise!

2 motions before the courts:

=> convoy organizers try to quash $300 million lawsuit --- "the lawsuit should be dismissed because the legal action against them unduly limits their freedom of expression in a matter of public interest."

=> defendants want their respective court cases to be moved away from Ottawa... apparently... they believe they can't get a fair unbiased trial in the Ottawa area - go figure!

But you know what helps calm protest?  No acting like authoritarian a$$holes, eroding basic rights like body autonomy and medical privacy...

hey now Shady! See recent days renewed interest around the origins, organizers and supporters of the freedumbConvoy!

(https://i.imgur.com/Qrnm9Hi.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on August 07, 2023, 11:40:40 am
per Press Progress: The “Save the Children Convoy,” a spin-off of recent anti-2SLGBTQ+ protests targeting schools and drag storytime events as well as loosely inspired by the controversial film “Sound of Freedom,” is being planned for Toronto in late summer or early fall.

(https://i.imgur.com/yWhXqmr.gif)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2xqHzfWEAA-LPF?format=png)

finally! Saving the children from the... math agenda!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 07, 2023, 12:19:32 pm
Yes I've been posting about this.

It's basically the f... Trudeau Convoy, with a stolen name and also a look that was stolen from every child matters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on August 08, 2023, 09:55:08 am
per Press Progress: The “Save the Children Convoy,” a spin-off of recent anti-2SLGBTQ+ protests targeting schools and drag storytime events as well as loosely inspired by the controversial film “Sound of Freedom,” is being planned for Toronto in late summer or early fall.

Straight line from the McMartin preschool trial to this crap.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 08, 2023, 10:00:22 am
Being part of the Facebook conversation... My observations are that they're a mix of earnest, naive, angry and misguided folks.

It's all mixed in with qanon and Anti Trudeau stuff ...

And they seem to be horrible at organizing and communication.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 08, 2023, 04:39:56 pm
Clearly they should have occupied Wall Street in eighteen-wheelers.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 12, 2023, 09:49:34 am
The US convoy was thwarted.

The Canadian one is rumoured to be going September 20th.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 21, 2023, 07:48:11 pm
Called it

https://1millionmarch4children.com/
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 02:00:41 am
Sept 5th - Trial for convoy leaders Lich and Barber starts.

waldo reminder - per the Canadian Ambassador to the United Nations, Bob Rae:

(https://i.imgur.com/QUbdQwW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 06, 2023, 06:15:38 am
FAFO

Imagine if they had protested peacefully, and for something sensible...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 06:45:25 am
FAFO

Imagine if they had protested peacefully, and for something sensible...
They did protest peacefully.  Honking is not violence.  And they certainly protested for something sensible.  What’s more important than basic rights and freedoms like body autonomy and medical privacy etc? 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 06, 2023, 06:55:24 am
They did protest peacefully.  Honking is not violence.  And they certainly protested for something sensible.  What’s more important than basic rights and freedoms like body autonomy and medical privacy etc?

True.  Imagine if they protested quietly and for something sensible ie. not American policy.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: guest18 on September 06, 2023, 07:00:11 am
They did protest peacefully.  Honking is not violence.  And they certainly protested for something sensible.  What’s more important than basic rights and freedoms like body autonomy and medical privacy etc?
Blockades are anti-freedom.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 07:41:57 am
They did protest peacefully.  Honking is not violence.

(https://i.imgur.com/2lJTiiP.gif)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 10:47:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/2lJTiiP.gif)
Honking is not violence.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 10:48:53 am
True.  Imagine if they protested quietly and for something sensible ie. not American policy.
There's no requirement to protest "quietly".  Body autonomy and medical privacy is very sensible.  It's actually paramount.  Honking isn't violence.  Drumming isn't violence.  Screaming isn't violence.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 10:49:35 am
Blockades are anti-freedom.
Mandates are anti-freedom.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on September 06, 2023, 10:56:48 am
Mandates are anti-freedom.

bzzt wrong-o
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on September 06, 2023, 03:42:13 pm
Blockades and mandates are anti-freedom.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 05:58:17 pm
They did protest peacefully.  Honking is not violence.

(https://i.imgur.com/2lJTiiP.gif)[/quote]

Honking is not violence.  Sorry.
Honking isn't violence.  Drumming isn't violence.  Screaming isn't violence.

again Shady, the Ottawa People’s Commission reports detail the intimidation, threats, insults, abuse and violence that Ottawa residents were subjected to... you're just too ignorant to even read what is presented to you!

Quote
“Despite claims from many convoy supporters, including some Canadian political leaders, that the events of January and February 2022 were nothing more than a peaceful protest, the OPC commissioners heard abundant testimony making clear the convoy blockade was, in fact, an occupation of downtown Ottawa with violence at its heart,” the OPC said in a news release.

The report itself underlines that the OPC heard testimony again and again detailing “extensive descriptions of violence.”

“In these accounts, we have heard of people being violently assaulted and accosted on the street
, including people with disabilities and in wheelchairs,” the report states. “We have heard of violent incidents associated with COVID-19 mask requirements, such as aggressive threats and angry slurs against people wearing masks.”

    The convoy occupation was unquestionably violent — Ottawa People’s Commission - January 30, 2023
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 06:07:11 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/2lJTiiP.gif)

again Shady, the Ottawa People’s Commission reports detail the intimidation, threats, insults, abuse and violence that Ottawa residents were subjected to... you're just too ignorant to even read what is presented to you!
😂😂😂
You’re going to have to do better than propaganda from a left wing think tank.   Regardless, honking is not violence.  It’s really annoying, probably disturbing the peace, but it’s not violence.  Stop pretending that it is.  Stop trying to make civil disobedience tantamount to violence.  It’s not.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 06:13:27 pm
😂😂😂
You’re going to have to do better than propaganda from a left wing think tank.   Regardless, honking is not violence.  It’s really annoying, probably disturbing the peace, but it’s not violence.  Stop pretending that it is.  Stop trying to make civil disobedience tantamount to violence.  It’s not.

what 'left-wing think tank' are you referring to?

you're such an azzhole! Again, the Ottawa People's Commission reports detail the violence that occurred. You continuing to refer to "honking horns" just showcases what an absolute troll you are!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 10:11:39 pm
what 'left-wing think tank' are you referring to?

you're such an azzhole! Again, the Ottawa People's Commission reports detail the violence that occurred. You continuing to refer to "honking horns" just showcases what an absolute troll you are!
Sure buddy.  I get it, you want to take any isolated instances of violence to try to apply to the protest as a whole.  It’s a common tactic. 
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on September 06, 2023, 10:13:41 pm
She’s a rather unlikable person, but this is outrageous.

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Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 10:34:33 pm
Sure buddy.  I get it, you want to take any isolated instances of violence to try to apply to the protest as a whole.  It’s a common tactic.

good on ya, Shady! Good on ya for finally recognizing that violence did occur during your claimed non-violent, peaceful, horn honking, BBQ&BouncyCastle protest! And you didn't even have to actually read the Ottawa People's Commission reports... good on ya!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on September 06, 2023, 11:03:39 pm
She’s a rather unlikable person, but this is outrageous.

(https://i.imgur.com/GTa8tlE.jpg)

wait, what? C'mon Shady, your image states the clownvoy was protesting against PM Trudeau! And here I thought it was all about protesting against COVID-19 vaccine mandates and restrictions... you know, FREEDOM!
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on September 07, 2023, 01:08:39 pm
She’s a rather unlikable person, but this is outrageous.

(Attachment Link)

I mean if you want to argue she's a schizophrenic who had an extended psychotic break when she planned and took part in the convoy, be my guest.

Also your stupid meme elides the facts of what she's actually charged with (specifically mischief, counselling others to commit mischief, intimidation and obstructing police.)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Black Dog on September 19, 2023, 12:45:37 pm
per Press Progress: The “Save the Children Convoy,” a spin-off of recent anti-2SLGBTQ+ protests targeting schools and drag storytime events as well as loosely inspired by the controversial film “Sound of Freedom,” is being planned for Toronto in late summer or early fall.

Are these dipshits affiliated with these "1 Million March" (https://dailyhive.com/canada/one-million-march-anti-lgbtq) dipshits or are we talking distinct and overlapping sets of dipshits here?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on December 21, 2023, 11:23:46 am
freedom fighters!

(https://i.imgur.com/8J1d4nI.jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 15, 2024, 11:18:07 am
For the record, I am just as supportive of the recent arrest of Palestinian supporters who tried to block a bridge. I'm still waiting for those who screamed bloody murder about the arrest of "truckers" blocking bridges doing the same for Palestinian protesters.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on January 15, 2024, 11:44:50 am
For the record, I am just as supportive of the recent arrest of Palestinian supporters who tried to block a bridge. 

Why ?  They're targeting Canadian Jewish neighbourhoods specifically because of events in Israel.  I don't think that's valid.

It would be like protesting a Mosque due to 9/11.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 15, 2024, 11:46:37 am
I get the impression you don't understand what you're reading
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on January 15, 2024, 12:09:29 pm
I get the impression you don't understand what you're reading

What I'm reading here or elsewhere ?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Michael Hardner on January 15, 2024, 12:10:45 pm
Oh you SUPPORT the arrests... well ok.  I can't say that but I do understand the rationale....

And yes the freedom fighters... unbelievably they're not consistent in their legal analysis.... their principles seem to be "F*** Trudeau".  They want any action if it hurts him...
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on January 19, 2024, 05:30:20 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/8J1d4nI.jpg)   (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GELXlE7WsAAPLhI?format=jpg)

freedom fighters!

Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on January 26, 2024, 02:19:47 pm
"HOLD THE LINE... HOLD FAST"! Yabut, will there be hot tubs and bouncy castles? Will PoiLIEvre bring the donuts?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEyjwnJWgAA-d6J?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 26, 2024, 02:21:15 pm
"HOLD THE LINE... HOLD FAST"! Yabut, will there be hot tubs and bouncy castles? Will PoiLIEvre bring the donuts?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEyjwnJWgAA-d6J?format=jpg)
What is your issue with this?
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on January 26, 2024, 02:27:39 pm
What is your issue with this?

is PeePee bringing the donuts again?

(https://i.imgur.com/3AHft4g.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: ArriveScam Shady on January 26, 2024, 02:34:38 pm
is PeePee bringing the donuts again?

(https://i.imgur.com/3AHft4g.jpeg)
Maybe?  Who cares?  Is that illegal now in Trudeau’s Canada?  Probably soon, another emergencies act declaration I’d guess.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Bubbermiley on January 26, 2024, 02:42:07 pm
Somewhere around eight years ago, Republicans started arguing that if something isn't illegal, it's perfectly fine. And if it's illegal, it doesn't count until there's a conviction in court.
 I wonder what caused them to adopt that position.
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on January 28, 2024, 03:17:31 pm
Quote
University of Ottawa associate professor of criminology Michael Kempa told CTV News the Federal Court decision — unlike that of the Public Order Emergency Commission under Rouleau — is “legally binding.”

“Anywhere we go from here, this sets a legal precedent,” he said. “It does make the government vulnerable.”

Kempa also pointed out similarities between Mosley’s assessment and Rouleau’s, namely that certain municipalities and their law enforcement agencies failed to act to dismantle the protests.

“They did not use the powers that were at their disposal to properly manage the freedom convoy protests, which started off completely legal, and ultimately did spiral into certain problems,” he said. “The difference is Rouleau says that that failure to act justified the federal government stepping in with the Emergencies Act, whereas the Federal Court now says failure to use powers that are on the books is not a reason to invoke the most extreme power in the country, which is the Emergencies Act.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-court-rules-emergencies-act-invocation-not-justified-1.6738624
Title: Re: Trucker convoy (non-censor edition)
Post by: waldo on February 07, 2024, 01:18:42 am
Feb 6, 2024: today a Justice of the Ontario Superior Court dismissed the 'Anti-SLAPP' motion by the defendants in the 'Freedom Convoy' class action. The Court found the plaintiffs have a "meritorious case" and there is evidence Convoy organizers intended to disrupt daily life in the city indefinitely thru extreme noise, blocking streets etc.

results in the class action lawsuit against 'Freedom Convoy' defendants moving ahead!
Quote
A $300-million class-action lawsuit filed against Freedom Convoy protesters, donors and organizers on behalf of downtown Ottawa residents and businesses is moving forward after a judge ruled against a motion filed by the defendants.

Superior Court Justice Calum MacLeod heard arguments in December for and against a motion brought under anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) legislation.

the WHY of the lawsuit & Defendants:
(https://i.imgur.com/CsTXp7a.png)