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Title: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 19, 2021, 10:21:34 am
This is to review movies, wherever you find 'em.

Atlantic City ☆☆☆☆☆ 5/5 [TCM] [1980] 
 
This film is a quiet examination of decline and renewal featuring the great Burt Lancaster - the original Rainmaker.   

Set in contemporary 1980 with the opening frame showing the old glory of the city being demolished all around. The Traymore Hotel sees the dynamite and it's the backdrop of our theme.  Notably, another era - the one after this - came to an end this week when Trump's gaudy mistake in AC was destroyed exactly 40 years later.

It's a hardscrabble story of people scrambling to climb out of the muck, with Lancaster stars as Louie Pascal.  He received a deserved Oscar nomination beside his newish costar Susan Sarandon.

She's working for a better life, with few options and some baggage catching up with her.  And Bert plays one of the best portrayed losers of all time... you can compare Lou Pascal to Willy Loman, or Rupert Pupkin.... but with few years remaining and almost no chance of any glory to come.
 
Small budget, basic sets and a rather plain, unglamorous story but it's put together with so much talent and intelligence that you can't stop watching. 

Five stars !

Put your reviews here folks...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on February 19, 2021, 11:17:22 am
On which streaming service can I find this fine film?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on February 19, 2021, 11:57:34 am
On which streaming service can I find this fine film?

I would try CRAVE.

I PVR'd it off of Turner Classic Movies but I find that CRAVE puts all films on their pay services for that month on "On Demand". 

It has worked for me in the past. 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 11, 2021, 03:08:42 pm
MAPS TO THE STARS ☆☆☆☆☆ 5/5 

Cronenberg's MASTERFUL and fascinating exploration of the 'C' list people in Hollywood, where you are one lucky or one unlucky break from becoming a legend or a bum.   There is no redemption for anyone in this hateful landscape; empty and vapid **** stab their way to the top of the "it" list. 
The centre of it all is a child star and his well-damaged family.  The kid is trying to sign on for another sequel of the series that made them all wealthy.  He's 13, just out of rehab, and a right nasty little gem.  Once you get to know him, it's a short crawl to the other vile characters in the film.
But David Cronenberg sure can tell a story to keep you interested, and so he keeps it going, plowing through this snakepit to the final horrible and fitting end.

And I'm not one for negative movies either, but the story and the acting are tight and just right.  Julianne Moore is no first-timer, and she won a deserved Best Actress award at Cannes for this.  One exception is John Cusack who to me stuck out as miscast.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: cybercoma on March 12, 2021, 09:52:09 am
Too many sentences. August1991 would be disappointed.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2021, 12:03:56 am
Operation Finale streamed on Netflix. 

Good show.  It’s about the attempt to bring to justice Adolf Eichmann by the Mossad.

****/5
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 17, 2021, 05:24:35 am
From Brazil? That one??
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2021, 10:30:21 am
From Brazil? That one??

Argentina

Ben Kingsley plays the Nazi.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: cybercoma on March 17, 2021, 11:28:08 am
Argentina

Ben Kingsley plays the Nazi.
Ben Kingsley is a god damned treasure to cinema.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2021, 02:17:34 pm
Watched this (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056066/) on the Criteron Collection app last night. One of the most enjoyable 15 minutes I've had in the last year. A Tati-esque romp.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 17, 2021, 02:51:20 pm
You like Tati ?  ... I seem to miss it ... that kind of humour rarely lands with me ...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2021, 03:48:52 pm
You like Tati ?  ... I seem to miss it ... that kind of humour rarely lands with me ...

I mean even if you don't find Tati funny you have to appreciate the artistry of the filmmaking.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 17, 2021, 04:08:02 pm
Ben Kingsley is a god damned treasure to cinema.

He was amazing as Gandhi but never thought he lived up to that potential mostly since then.  Kinda like Al Pacino after Scarface.  WTF happened to that guy.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2021, 05:34:13 pm
He was amazing as Gandhi but never thought he lived up to that potential mostly since then.  Kinda like Al Pacino after Scarface.  WTF happened to that guy.

He has only been nominated for 5 Oscars since that movie in the 80s, one just last year and a whole whack of Golden Globes... 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on March 17, 2021, 06:51:54 pm
He was amazing as Gandhi but never thought he lived up to that potential mostly since then.  Kinda like Al Pacino after Scarface.  WTF happened to that guy.

You've clearly never watched Sexy Beast.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2021, 07:07:48 pm
You've clearly never watched Sexy Beast.

The man has been brilliant in so many movies!   Graham is clueless. 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 17, 2021, 09:33:19 pm
You've clearly never watched Sexy Beast.

I watch myself in the mirror every day.

He was good in Schindler's List, though i wouldn't say great, even if it was a great movie.

I want to love his other performances i've seen of his but I just don't.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 17, 2021, 09:35:06 pm
He has only been nominated for 5 Oscars since that movie in the 80s, one just last year and a whole whack of Golden Globes...

Art is subjective.  It's my opinion.  Awards for art, including awards show, are absolutely meaningless.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 17, 2021, 09:44:53 pm
Art is subjective.  It's my opinion.  Awards for art, including awards show, are absolutely meaningless.

Being clueless is not an opinion.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 18, 2021, 02:31:34 pm
Being clueless is not an opinion.

Your posting history on this forum says otherwise.  Zing!

I'm sorry my subjective opinion of art is not up to your clearly far superior standards of taste, art Stalin.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on March 22, 2021, 01:48:16 am
The Midnight Sky

Directed and starred in by George Clooney.

I liked this sci-fi.  Available on Netflix.  It’s about an apocalypse on Earth and a dying scientist that stays behind to warn the crews of returning space missions.  But more than that, it contemplates what’s left at the end of the world and a persons life’s work and the sacrifices that might go along with it.

It has some pacing problems...  and relies a bit too much on disaster after disaster...  they don’t hurt the movie, necessarily, but I don’t think they helped the plot.  But they are visually quite stunning and well done.  They do add tension, but I’m not sure that extra tension was necessary given the main plot line. 

The ending was satisfying. 

****/5


https://youtu.be/DXUUqr3AFKs
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on May 23, 2021, 06:58:17 am
Things Heard and Scene

This falls between 'Classic Horror' and 'Boring Failure'... basically a very boring and tropey horror film.  The acting and direction make it watchable but it's only worth your time if you are starving for some haunts.  2 1/2 stars, generously.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest7 on May 23, 2021, 10:21:05 am
Mulholland Drive.  It was very good.

I'm gonna have to watch it again...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on May 23, 2021, 11:20:01 am
Oh wow. I think I've seen pretty much every David Lynch film in the theater except for the first three that I caught on video
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest7 on May 23, 2021, 01:10:36 pm
Ah, sorry, I thought this was a "last movie watched" type of thread.  That wasn't much of a review.

It's only the second movie I ever watched that was made by Lynch.  Blue Velvet being the other one, a long time ago.  I remember enjoying that one too.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: kimmy on September 13, 2021, 08:52:34 pm
Lindsey's neice and nephew were here to visit, and we took them to see Jungle Cruise, starring Dwayne Johnson and Emily Blunt.

It was good family-friendly fun. It's set in 1916 or something like that. The Rock is his usual affable self as the captain of a dilapidated tour boat on the Amazon river. Emily Blunt is a plucky English academic determined to investigate an ancient myth called "The Tears of the Moon", which she believes has the potential to revolutionize medicine. But a German prince also wants the Tears of the Moon, to help the war effort.  Nothing life changing in any of this, but if you have to entertain some kids, this will do the trick.  And Emily Blunt is so cute.   

Musical highlight: an enchanting instrumental version of Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters" at the beginning of the film as they explain the legend of the Tears of The Moon.

 -k
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 14, 2021, 05:00:15 am
Can't wait til Easy can understand plot.

Going on 3 soon, and just starting to get Paw Patrol...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest18 on September 14, 2021, 07:52:46 am
They grow up so fast. At least by living in Toronto you don't have to dread him eventually moving out.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 14, 2021, 09:25:24 am
GREEN BOOK

Nothing wrong with the movie but something wrong in me.  I want to scream at these Hollywood feelgood racial reconciliation sessions.

Viggo Mortensen is a revelation.  The actors and the design and the story was a delight.  Old school.

Still didn't like it.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: segnosaur on September 14, 2021, 10:13:23 am
GREEN BOOK

Nothing wrong with the movie but something wrong in me.  I want to scream at these Hollywood feelgood racial reconciliation sessions.

Viggo Mortensen is a revelation.  The actors and the design and the story was a delight.  Old school.

Still didn't like it.
You will be happy to know that the real-life family of Don Shirley (the musician portrayed in the film) have strongly criticized the movie for its inaccuracy.

The movie was based on a book written by the family of Tony Lip. But according to some, it greatly over-emphasized the roll that he played in Don Shirley's life.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: segnosaur on September 14, 2021, 10:15:18 am
On which streaming service can I find this fine film?
Should you be interested, there is a website called 'just watch'. You can type the name of a movie or TV series, and it will find what streaming services are currently showing the movie.

https://www.justwatch.com/ca
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 14, 2021, 10:31:48 am
You will be happy to know that the real-life family of Don Shirley (the musician portrayed in the film) have strongly criticized the movie for its inaccuracy.

The movie was based on a book written by the family of Tony Lip. But according to some, it greatly over-emphasized the roll that he played in Don Shirley's life.

I read about that and it was a back-and-forth.  The producers strongly defended the point of view that the family wasn't as close to him and their opinions aren't correct. 

But, regardless, I had a problem with the ideology of the film I guess...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest7 on September 14, 2021, 08:20:49 pm
GREEN BOOK

Nothing wrong with the movie but something wrong in me.  I want to scream at these Hollywood feelgood racial reconciliation sessions.

Viggo Mortensen is a revelation.  The actors and the design and the story was a delight.  Old school.

Still didn't like it.

It was no Driving Miss Daisy but I liked it.  Well, I enjoyed it.  Is that the same thing?

I can understand the surprise at the Oscar win though.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: BC_cheque on September 16, 2021, 12:26:31 am
You will be happy to know that the real-life family of Don Shirley (the musician portrayed in the film) have strongly criticized the movie for its inaccuracy.

The movie was based on a book written by the family of Tony Lip. But according to some, it greatly over-emphasized the roll that he played in Don Shirley's life.

I really liked the movie too until I read what the family said about it.  How disgraceful. 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on September 16, 2021, 07:06:55 am
I really liked the movie too until I read what the family said about it.  How disgraceful.

"He told Variety that "Don Shirley himself told me not to speak to anyone" and that Shirley "approved what I put in and didn't put in."[16]"

As is depicted in the film, Shirley befriended Vallelonga, and the two remained friends until their 2013 deaths. “My father would go into the city and visit him at Carnegie Hall,” Vallelonga’s son told Metro of their relationship following the tour. “They’d have lunches. Whenever Dr. Shirley had any problems, he’d call my father and he’d help to sort them out.”

The thing some are missing is that he was estranged from his family - probably due to his gayness, which was not a problem for Tony.  When I was young I knew many gay people who no longer spoke to their families and adopted each other as 'family'.  While it was by no means the rule, it was also not exceptional.  This gave a new dimension to Christmas as 'gay Christmas' was a kind of in-between family and friend get together with more meaning than just a friends get-together with straights.

But I don't need to have the whole thing boxed and tied with a bow in my mind.  I am sorry they felt left out.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Squidward von Squidderson on September 16, 2021, 10:26:26 am
Yeah…. Don’t always believe what the family says.  They can be the dickheads in many cases. 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on October 02, 2021, 06:52:47 am
WOW.


wow.

Went to a MOVIE yesterday mid day !  3 of us in the movie theatre - me, Joan and one other person.  Saw Free Guy and liked it !

It was 60% Tron, 10% Blade Runner, 10% Her, 10% Groundhog Day and 10% The Truman Show. 

Ryan Reynolds is the Dean Jones of his era...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on October 02, 2021, 08:23:12 pm
You will be happy to know that the real-life family of Don Shirley (the musician portrayed in the film) have strongly criticized the movie for its inaccuracy.

The movie was based on a book written by the family of Tony Lip. But according to some, it greatly over-emphasized the roll that he played in Don Shirley's life.

This is a lie because all movies based on real events are 100% accurate 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on October 02, 2021, 08:51:46 pm
This is a lie because all movies based on real events are 100% accurate 100% of the time.

Not exactly - there were electric instruments in 'Jesus Christ Superstar' and they hadn't fully developed electricity in 30 AD
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on October 02, 2021, 10:16:19 pm
Not exactly - there were electric instruments in 'Jesus Christ Superstar' and they hadn't fully developed electricity in 30 AD

Jesus walked on water, i'm sure he could produce a fender strat.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on October 03, 2021, 06:53:41 am
Jesus walked on water, i'm sure he could produce a fender strat.

Could God play a bassline so complicated he couldn't play it twice ? 🤔
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on October 03, 2021, 03:18:51 pm
Could God play a bassline so complicated he couldn't play it twice ? 🤔

Would God play avant-garde jazz?  If not, what genre would God be into?  Christian rock?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on October 03, 2021, 03:29:23 pm
If not, what genre would God be into?  Christian rock?

Aramaic free jazz.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: segnosaur on October 04, 2021, 02:42:19 am
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You will be happy to know that the real-life family of Don Shirley (the musician portrayed in the film) have strongly criticized the movie for its inaccuracy.

The movie was based on a book written by the family of Tony Lip. But according to some, it greatly over-emphasized the roll that he played in Don Shirley's life.
This is a lie because all movies based on real events are 100% accurate 100% of the time.
Sarcasm aside...

I do recognize that movies based on real events will probably always have SOME inaccuracies.... events omitted if they don't contribute to the plot in a significant way, multiple characters 'combined', etc. And I do recognize that a biopic is not a documentary.

But I do think there is a difference between "We fudged the timing on a few events and changed some dialog", and "We totally changed the nature of the relationship between the main characters". One of those is much more... questionable... than the other.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: segnosaur on October 04, 2021, 02:44:59 am
If not, what genre would God be into?  Christian rock?
I think there are some things that even god would find unforgivable.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 15, 2023, 04:57:48 pm
This is on Disney at present - Banshees of Inisherin

An instant classic.

Better than Everything Everywhere All at Once

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/the-banshees-of-inisherin-review-martin-mcdonagh-colin-farrell-brendan-gleeson
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on March 15, 2023, 05:41:27 pm
This is on Disney at present - Banshees of Inisherin

An instant classic.

Better than Everything Everywhere All at Once

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/oct/23/the-banshees-of-inisherin-review-martin-mcdonagh-colin-farrell-brendan-gleeson

100% agree. I saw EEAO in the theatre and thought it to be a big mess. Banshees is fantastic.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on March 15, 2023, 05:53:59 pm
100% agree. I saw EEAO in the theatre and thought it to be a big mess. Banshees is fantastic.

I really DID like EEAO.  It was definitely something but I even myself used the term "mess" to describe it.

For pure originality and goofy hubris I'm glad it got the visibility it did.  And its production company A24 is singlehandedly making almost the only good movies in Hollywood right now.

But... damn... the Banshees of Inisherin... I will be thinking about that one forever.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on March 15, 2023, 07:44:42 pm
I really DID like EEAO.  It was definitely something but I even myself used the term "mess" to describe it.

For pure originality and goofy hubris I'm glad it got the visibility it did.  And its production company A24 is singlehandedly making almost the only good movies in Hollywood right now.

But... damn... the Banshees of Inisherin... I will be thinking about that one forever.

Oh don’t get me wrong I appreciated the ambition and the originality, the performances were great but I just found it to be a bit too much.

I watched “Nope” the other day and have the exact same criticisms.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on March 18, 2023, 01:05:15 am
Maybe i'll give Eevrrything Everywhere a chance at some point.  I do like Michelle Yeoh.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 01, 2023, 09:22:03 am
Barbie - full review

So it was, as I thought, preachy and I hate preachy movies especially ones that just reiterate messages I agree with.  Why am I here ?  Where's the entertainment.

BUT.

But it was good after all because you could watch and admire the skill in which the preachy stuff was baked into to the story.  That's not to say the story was compelling.  It's dolls after all... but the cleverness was something to admire.

Is cleverness enough ?  I would say that cleverness in a film needs a few extras to make it worthwhile.  One of the extras here was the production design, which was also excellent.

So, this movie will make misogyny types explode (it makes fun of men) and will bore feminist men, but but... if you have some writer in you, or maybe like great visuals or the music ... I don't know ... you might like it.

Certainly the chicks liked it.  Like Bridget Jones' Diary, all I heard was chick laughter.... the chicks...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 01, 2023, 11:39:38 am
You gonna see Oppenheimer, Mike? Personally, I couldn't care less, not because it's not an interesting subject, but because Nolan is an absolute hack.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 01, 2023, 12:25:45 pm
You gonna see Oppenheimer, Mike? Personally, I couldn't care less, not because it's not an interesting subject, but because Nolan is an absolute hack.

I was interested but also trying to figure out why it would be interesting.  Same as Barbie I guess.

My room mate was the deciding vote.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 01, 2023, 02:04:11 pm
I was interested but also trying to figure out why it would be interesting.  Same as Barbie I guess.

My room mate was the deciding vote.

I'm hyped to see Asteroid City but our local theatre is only showing it for the week lol.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest18 on August 01, 2023, 02:10:08 pm
I recently watched Rolling Thunder on Tubi. Written by the guy that wrote Taxi Driver, it stars William Devane as a POW in Vietnam who was recently released after years in prison and awarded $2,500 in shiny silver dollars by his town. Some hillbillies break into his house to steal this fortune but didn't count on him being so conditioned to not talk while being tortured. They put his arm in the garbage disposer and turn it into a bloody stump. Then his wife and son come home and his son quickly tells them where the money is. They get it, shoot all three execution-style, and leave, not realizing William Devane is still alive. So he sharpens up a hook for his missing hand and goes hunting them, Death Wish-like. A most entertaining romp if you like your films dark and from the late 1970s.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 01, 2023, 02:13:27 pm
I'm hyped to see Asteroid City but our local theatre is only showing it for the week lol.

Thumbs down for me, unless of course you adore Wes Anderson then it was fine.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 01, 2023, 02:14:14 pm
I recently watched Rolling Thunder on Tubi. Written by the guy that wrote Taxi Driver, it stars William Devane as a POW in Vietnam who was recently released after years in prison and awarded $2,500 in shiny civil dollars by his town. Some hillbillies break into his house to steal this fortune but didn't count on him being so conditioned to not talk while being tortured. They put his arm in the garbage disposer and turn it into a bloody stump. Then his wife and son come home and his son quickly tells them where the money is. They get it, shoot all three execution-style, and leave, not realizing William Devane is still alive. So he sharpens up a hook for his missing hand and goes hunting them, Death Wish-like. A most entertaining romp if you like your films dark and from the late 1970s.

I will pass on this one if it's ok.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 01, 2023, 03:14:57 pm
Barbie - full review

So it was, as I thought, preachy and I hate preachy movies especially ones that just reiterate messages I agree with.  Why am I here ?  Where's the entertainment.

BUT.

But it was good after all because you could watch and admire the skill in which the preachy stuff was baked into to the story.  That's not to say the story was compelling.  It's dolls after all... but the cleverness was something to admire.

Is cleverness enough ?  I would say that cleverness in a film needs a few extras to make it worthwhile.  One of the extras here was the production design, which was also excellent.

So, this movie will make misogyny types explode (it makes fun of men) and will bore feminist men, but but... if you have some writer in you, or maybe like great visuals or the music ... I don't know ... you might like it.

Certainly the chicks liked it.  Like Bridget Jones' Diary, all I heard was chick laughter.... the chicks...

Sounds like you're voting Trump in 2024.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 01, 2023, 03:19:54 pm
You gonna see Oppenheimer, Mike? Personally, I couldn't care less, not because it's not an interesting subject, but because Nolan is an absolute hack.

I don't think he's a hack, but I do find his plots difficult to follow because you have to listen to the dialogue carefully or you will miss important details.  For a 3 hour movie that gets tough.  But he does unique and creative stuff in an industry obsessed with sequels and reboots so I support those kinds of risks.

Loved his Batmans, was pretty meh on Inception, liked Dunkirk, liked that space movie, didn't bother watching Tenet.  I watched the one about the magician, was meh.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 01, 2023, 03:23:01 pm
Top Gun 2 was amazing.

The new Mission Impossible looks pretty good.  I haven't watched any of the other ones.

I'm convinced just about every traditional media industry is dead except for TV on streaming.  Movies, music. gaming, cable tv, even news...it's all eroding into a puddle of yucky.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest18 on August 01, 2023, 03:59:34 pm
They said the same thing when the boomers took over the mass-market culture in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 01, 2023, 04:09:32 pm
I don't think he's a hack, but I do find his plots difficult to follow because you have to listen to the dialogue carefully or you will miss important details.  For a 3 hour movie that gets tough.  But he does unique and creative stuff in an industry obsessed with sequels and reboots so I support those kinds of risks.

I respect that and he's no doubt a master technical filmmaker but his scripts are almost universally lousy.

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Loved his Batmans, was pretty meh on Inception, liked Dunkirk, liked that space movie, didn't bother watching Tenet.  I watched the one about the magician, was meh.

Dunkirk was ok, the Prestige is the only one of his films I liked after the initial pass.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 01, 2023, 04:23:39 pm
I respect that and he's no doubt a master technical filmmaker but his scripts are almost universally lousy.

Dunkirk was ok, the Prestige is the only one of his films I liked after the initial pass.

Didn't like the Batmans?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 01, 2023, 04:28:40 pm
They said the same thing when the boomers took over the mass-market culture in the 1960s.

I don't think it's a hot take that numerous traditional media are struggling.  It's mostly just the internet changing things, plus some corporate greed getting desperate because of it.

Was talking to some parents the other day.  YouTube is the big media for kids/ youth.  Not sure how well mobile gaming is still doing.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 01, 2023, 04:47:20 pm
Didn't like the Batmans?

The first one was ok, the second one had a fantastic performance by Heath Ledger and that's it, I couldn't even finish the last one it was so stupid.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 01, 2023, 04:50:01 pm
Top Gun 2 was amazing.

The new Mission Impossible looks pretty good.  I haven't watched any of the other ones.

I'm convinced just about every traditional media industry is dead except for TV on streaming.  Movies, music. gaming, cable tv, even news...it's all eroding into a puddle of yucky.

I don't think there's been a better time to be a consumer of music. Sucks for artists though.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: kimmy on August 02, 2023, 12:59:48 am
Top Gun 2 was amazing.

By now most of you are familiar with my belief that a movie should be judged by whether it delivers what the poster promises.  And Top Gun 2 delivers exactly what the poster promises, and more, and better. Spectacularly.

The new Mission Impossible looks pretty good.  I haven't watched any of the other ones.

The latest Mission Impossible has somewhat underperformed at the box office. Indiana Jones: Dial of Destiny and Ant Man: Quantumania were flops. The Flash was a Fat Man And Little Boy scale bomb.  On the other hand, Super Mario was a huge hit and Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was pretty successful as well.  But the "Barbenheimer" phenomenon proves that people still WANT to go out to theatres. And IMO that's wonderful.


I'm convinced just about every traditional media industry is dead except for TV on streaming.  Movies, music. gaming, cable tv, even news...it's all eroding into a puddle of yucky.

We are in a time of transition, but things will sort themselves out somehow.

 -k
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: kimmy on August 02, 2023, 01:48:37 am
I don't think he's a hack, but I do find his plots difficult to follow because you have to listen to the dialogue carefully or you will miss important details.  For a 3 hour movie that gets tough.  But he does unique and creative stuff in an industry obsessed with sequels and reboots so I support those kinds of risks.

Loved his Batmans, was pretty meh on Inception, liked Dunkirk, liked that space movie, didn't bother watching Tenet.  I watched the one about the magician, was meh.

I went to see Tenet because it was one of the few things playing in theatres during covid.  I didn't care for it. Interesting premise, and some neat action sequences, but mostly just tedious.

 -k
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 02, 2023, 06:02:16 am
They said the same thing when the boomers took over the mass-market culture in the 1960s.

Interesting take, you're very close. First of all the boomers only started to do that July 14th, 1969 with the release of easy Rider.  With that film, the money man made so much on so little investment that young people were invested in and trusted with more and more money.

A few years later, a middling pop novel called The Godfather.. starring a bunch of unknowns and an old star who is written off as troublesome we wrote things for good.

American graffiti, jaws, The last picture Show...

Read the book easy riders and raging Bulls kind of explains boomer film culture which is now finally dying.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 15, 2023, 01:04:44 pm
My Barbie review: it was fine. Performances were great, especially Gosling's. The visuals were a treat, the jokes mostly landed, nice to see actual practical effects/set design, plus the various nods to Tati, Busby Berkeley, Bugs Bunny etc. I thought the preachiness and anti-patriarchy stuff was as much a send-up as the girlboss feminism the film was satirizing in the first place. Overall, threading the needle between subversive satire and commercial corporate IP is an impossible task but Gerwig does the best she can.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on August 15, 2023, 02:40:12 pm
Did you get hassled for wearing hot pink?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 15, 2023, 02:42:28 pm
Did you get hassled for wearing hot pink?

No it was more of a dusty rose/soft teal combo.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on August 19, 2023, 10:11:18 am
I recently watched Sound of Freedom.  It’s a really good movie, but very heavy.  Definitely not a popcorn movie.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 19, 2023, 10:50:04 am
Seems like a moralistic action movie.

Probably my least favourite genre, ever since I paid cash money to sit in the cinema and watch The Zebra Force

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zebra_Force
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 19, 2023, 11:21:48 am
I recently watched Sound of Freedom.  It’s a really good movie, but very heavy.  Definitely not a popcorn movie.

Lol of course you did.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 19, 2023, 11:23:34 am
Has anybody seen the zebra force?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on August 19, 2023, 11:27:05 am
Seems like a moralistic action movie.

Probably my least favourite genre, ever since I paid cash money to sit in the cinema and watch The Zebra Force

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zebra_Force
I’m not sure what you mean.  Sound of Freedom is a story that involves a former American agent and child sex trafficking in Colombia.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on August 19, 2023, 11:40:50 am
I'm not sure what YOU mean 🤔
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 19, 2023, 11:47:25 am
I'm not sure what YOU mean 🤔

Disregard it Mike, it’s a QAnon propaganda/money laundering operation.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: After 9 years of Trudeau Shady on August 19, 2023, 11:58:35 am
Disregard it Mike, it’s a QAnon propaganda/money laundering operation.
You’re a lunatic.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on August 19, 2023, 12:26:59 pm
You’re a lunatic.  Seriously.

No, but it is funny you’ve seen it because your conservative media diet told you to, you’re such an NPC.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on September 18, 2023, 01:21:13 pm
lol

Tim Ballard’s Departure From Operation Underground Railroad Followed Sexual Misconduct Investigation
 (https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkaqvn/tim-ballards-departure-from-operation-underground-railroad-followed-sexual-misconduct-investigation)
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Tim Ballard’s exit from Operation Underground Railroad earlier this year followed an investigation into claims of sexual misconduct involving seven women, according to sources with direct knowledge of the organization.

Sources familiar with the situation said that the self-styled anti-slavery activist, who appears to be preparing for a Senate run, invited women to act as his “wife” on undercover overseas missions ostensibly aimed at rescuing victims of sex trafficking. He would then allegedly coerce those women into sharing a bed or showering together, claiming that it was necessary to fool traffickers. Ballard, who was played by Jim Caviezel in the hit film Sound of Freedom, is said to have sent at least one woman a photo of himself in his underwear, festooned with fake tattoos, and to have asked another “how far she was willing to go,” in the words of a source, to save children. These sources requested anonymity because they fear retaliation.

The total number of women involved is believed to be higher than seven, as that would only account for employees, not contractors or volunteers. One source close to OUR has detailed knowledge of Ballard making sexual advances to a volunteer using methods similar to those he allegedly used with OUR employees. Those methods are also consistent with his conduct toward another former volunteer who spoke to VICE News.

It's always the ones you most suspect.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on November 29, 2023, 11:40:20 am
Candyman ... sequel written by Jordan Peele

Like NOPE it's an art movie that is frauding to be a horror...

Not a fan...
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on November 29, 2023, 11:42:25 am
Coen Brothers films ranked...

Do you agree ?

If you do not love them (ie. kimmy) pass by

https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/best-coen-brothers-movies/blood-simple/
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest7 on November 29, 2023, 12:02:05 pm
Coen Brothers films ranked...

Do you agree ?

If you do not love them (ie. kimmy) pass by

https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/best-coen-brothers-movies/blood-simple/

True Grit down in 15th place?  I've preferred that film to any of the ones above it that I've seen (about half) other than Fargo. 
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest18 on November 29, 2023, 12:15:15 pm
I agree. Hailee Steinfeld and Jeff Bridges were great in that. I would rank it third after Fargo and NCFOM.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on November 29, 2023, 12:23:06 pm
Coen Brothers films ranked...

Do you agree ?

If you do not love them (ie. kimmy) pass by

https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/best-coen-brothers-movies/blood-simple/

Can't quibble with much there. Barton Fink, ILD and Buster Scruggs are a few spots too high, Miller's Crossing and Raising Arizona too low.

True Grit down in 15th place?  I've preferred that film to any of the ones above it that I've seen (about half) other than Fargo. 

It's not really a Coen Bros movie though, just a straightforward adaptation of the (equally good) novel. It's certainly not top 10 IMO.

1. Fargo
2. OBWAT
3. Raising Arizona
4. TLB
5. Miller's Crossing
6. NCFOM
7. A Serious Man
8. Barton Fink
9. Blood Simple
10. TMWWT


Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on November 29, 2023, 01:23:12 pm
True Grit down in 15th place?  I've preferred that film to any of the ones above it that I've seen (about half) other than Fargo.

Yeah, I thought it was fine at the time but TBH I don't remember a single frame of the film.

I can remember a half dozen scenes from Fargo I would guess.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on November 29, 2023, 01:29:21 pm
1. Can't quibble with much there. Barton Fink, ILD and Buster Scruggs are a few spots too high, Miller's Crossing and Raising Arizona too low.

It's not really a Coen Bros movie though, just a straightforward adaptation of the (equally good) novel. It's certainly not top 10 IMO.

1. Fargo
2. OBWAT
3. Raising Arizona
4. TLB
5. Miller's Crossing
6. NCFOM
7. A Serious Man
8. Barton Fink
9. Blood Simple
10. TMWWT

TBL = The Lebowski, Big ?

1. Buster Scruggs is pretty low relatively.
2. We have CB fans here.  First of all, your acronyms are proven to suck.  Secondly, you're making me want to see Raising Arizona.  I heard about it from Henry Rollins, when I was listening to an interview of his and he basically introduced me to the Coens.  I hated Nicholas Cage's performance and Holly Hunter (I think she was the lady lead) and found the ending saccharine but ... I have kids now I'll try to negotiate a rewatch.

The Man Who Wasn't There is an example of what an experienced screenwriter said about the Coens: they break writing rules without care.  It was a love triangle and they killed off one side of the triangle too early... and the movie just sat there like cold eggs.

Everything else on this list is OK w/me
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: guest18 on November 29, 2023, 02:28:05 pm
I used to poster for a punk rock promoter in the 1980s so I got in free to the Black Flag show at Desh Bhagat Hall in around '84 or '85. I got my hand stamp, went outside, and pressed the back of my hand against a friend of mine's hand so he could get in too. Because I was an "official employee" of the promoter, I was able to get us backstage. My friend said to Henry how much he liked his music and mentioned how he was broke but had to see the show and how he got in for free.
Henry looked at him, suddenly enraged, and said "Am I your n*gger?"  He kept repeating it, over and over, louder and louder, until some guy told my friend he better leave because Henry's about to pop.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on November 29, 2023, 02:34:30 pm
Great story.   Not sure why your friend would tell Henry how he just ripped him off lol but still makes a great story lol
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: kimmy on December 06, 2023, 12:52:44 am
Coen Brothers films ranked...

Do you agree ?

If you do not love them (ie. kimmy) pass by


I have seen a few Coen Brothers films.  I do watch some movies that don't have super-heroes, space-aliens, or explosions. I liked True Grit, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, and Fargo.

 -k
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 06, 2023, 02:39:22 am
I want to see the new Godzilla movie.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 06, 2023, 05:22:50 am
The bed movies encompass art in a way that reflects a human experience so perfectly that they're undeniably commercial.

American Beauty was a shallow and fake art movie to me.  But I read comments online and was amazed by the folks who were moved by it because they had NEVER experienced an anti commercial message.

Jaws, Alien, Silence of the Lambs being dumb monster movies, had to sew in intelligence through the characters and relationships.

I just went through all the best picture nominees since the 80s to come up with another example as good as those two but failed.

I would say Boyhood with Patricia Arquette is one, although it not have been a box office success I don't know.

It really captured the progress of life in a marvelous way though.

Maybe that sad final sinking scene in Titanic was a collective and unifying audience experience.  Didn't much care for the rest of it.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on December 06, 2023, 10:29:24 am
Some of the CGI in this trailer looks rough (hopefully it's just unfinished), but I'm stoked for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMuhwVlca4
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 06, 2023, 10:33:50 am
Post apocalypse ?

I don't know... Then again I watched the last of us
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: kimmy on December 12, 2023, 01:25:56 am
Mad Max:  Fury Road is on a short list of my favorite movies of the past 10 years.  It's a pretty basic plot... they drive this way, then they drive back the other way... but it works on a visceral level like nothing else I've ever seen.  It's a masterwork in pacing and building suspense. I think it's one of the best action movies ever.   I'd love to return to that world again.

 -k
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2023, 08:14:31 am
I agree kimmy, and it's a rare example of a sequel that came back after a long layoff and hit it out of the park.

Nothing can match the experience of that first movie though, directed with a kind of storytelling violence that put your heart in your throat almost the whole way through.

Made Gibson a star ⭐

See, I like blockbusters!!
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2023, 09:59:58 am
Mad Max:  Fury Road is on a short list of my favorite movies of the past 10 years.  It's a pretty basic plot... they drive this way, then they drive back the other way... but it works on a visceral level like nothing else I've ever seen.  It's a masterwork in pacing and building suspense. I think it's one of the best action movies ever.   I'd love to return to that world again.

 -k

I thought Fury Road was lame and don't understand the appeal besides some of the visuals.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2023, 10:51:36 am
Did you see this in the cinema?
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Black Dog on December 12, 2023, 10:57:39 am
I thought Fury Road was lame and don't understand the appeal besides some of the visuals.

Cars go vroom
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2023, 10:58:57 am
Did you see this in the cinema?

No.  Don't think that would change it.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2023, 04:50:31 pm
No.  Don't think that would change it.

I think it would giant screen experience, booming sound... And you know, from the joshing I guess, that I like small movie set in offices. But I will never try and take in a big screen movie via a streaming service and that's a rule.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2023, 05:15:12 pm
I think it would giant screen experience, booming sound... And you know, from the joshing I guess, that I like small movie set in offices. But I will never try and take in a big screen movie via a streaming service and that's a rule.

Well to be fair I didn't stream it, I downloaded it illegally lol.

I do like seeing blockbuster/action type flicks in the theater.  Godzilla Minus One may be next up.  However, I saw Dune in the theater for this reason and had the same impressions:  impressive visuals, meh script.  Pacing and music on that one were also poor.  Dolby cannot fix a mediocre movie but can make them more fun.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Queefer Sutherland on December 12, 2023, 05:27:56 pm
I believe Dune has the worst score in any film i've ever experienced.  It's truly a horribly unpleasant experience for 2 and a half hours.
Title: Re: Movie Review Culture
Post by: Michael Hardner on December 12, 2023, 09:44:55 pm
Well to be fair I didn't stream it, I downloaded it illegally lol.
 .

???

You're dead to me....