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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2021, 04:19:36 pm »
If people don't go back to work we're all going to become anti-social hermits.  People are already very isolated in our society as it is even before the pandemic.  We're all going to end up just living on the internet and meeting people in virtual reality, which is a pretty sick society.

Our workplace was really one of the few community spaces we have left for adults.  People often don't converse with neighbours near as much as they used to, people have stopped going to church, people are having less kids which means less community contact through schools and child play-friends on their street or class etc.

Society is becoming very ill socially and psychologically while we advance in technology.  We're already feeling seeing these rising of mental illness, the world has sped up and has turned inward.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2021, 05:26:23 pm »
Agreed.  I'm getting invited to social events and I readily admit I'm nervous about the idea.  I know I'll eventually get over it but after so long not seeing anyone it's scary, I admit.

Going back to work felt really good and I have been in better spirits.  To me hybrid home/office isn't new, I've been doing this since around 2010 and I love it.  Just the right amount of getting out of the house and interacting, but not the burnout 5 days a week which makes you long for weekends/vacations. 

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2021, 07:04:52 am »
Start to know your neighbours...

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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2021, 11:18:24 am »
If people don't go back to work we're all going to become anti-social hermits.  People are already very isolated in our society as it is even before the pandemic.  We're all going to end up just living on the internet and meeting people in virtual reality, which is a pretty sick society.

If thatís the case, then youíre doing life wrong. 

When things were uncertain with COVID, we certainly didnít see many people.  But for several months, knowing how itís spread and how to prevent it, Iív seen friends about 3-4 times a weekÖ.  Probably more than normal!

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Our workplace was really one of the few community spaces we have left for adults.  People often don't converse with neighbours near as much as they used to, people have stopped going to church, people are having less kids which means less community contact through schools and child play-friends on their street or class etc.

Then people will need to fix that problem.  I limit my social contact with people I have to work with, for the most part.  Like MH saysÖ. Go meet your neighbours. 

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Society is becoming very ill socially and psychologically while we advance in technology.  We're already feeling seeing these rising of mental illness, the world has sped up and has turned inward.

Are we seeing increased mentally illness issues?  Or just more awareness?

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2021, 12:08:15 pm »
BCAA is just CAA but the BC version?

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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2021, 05:33:30 pm »
If thatís the case, then youíre doing life wrong. 

When things were uncertain with COVID, we certainly didnít see many people.  But for several months, knowing how itís spread and how to prevent it, Iív seen friends about 3-4 times a weekÖ.  Probably more than normal!

Then people will need to fix that problem.  I limit my social contact with people I have to work with, for the most part.  Like MH saysÖ. Go meet your neighbours. 

And where will people meet friends if they're working at home all day?

What you're saying is you have to go out of your way and make a special effort.  And yes that's true.  But making an effort is by its nature much harder than the environment simply creating opportunities for people no matter what.  A child is going to make more friends if he goes to school rather than if he is home schooled, that's just the nature of the environment.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2021, 07:45:02 pm »
Join a social media group in your neighbourhood.
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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2021, 09:38:31 pm »
Join a social media group in your neighbourhood.

But again, this requires effort.  I'm not saying people can't join social activities or communities, i'm saying if you're working from home all day you're going to be more isolated and interacting with less people than working in an office or whatever.

For people with families and kids it's a different story because at least they have their family.  For younger people or single people it will be harder for them.  I have a friend who is single who works at home all day and then barely leaves the house.  You will say that's their fault, I suppose part of it is for not making the effort, but it still isn't healthy.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2021, 06:47:01 am »
Yes, but if your antisocial is the forest social interaction of work actually helpful? I mean it's so minimal

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2021, 12:56:51 pm »
Yes, but if your antisocial is the forest social interaction of work actually helpful? I mean it's so minimal

I can answer this as someone who considers herself antisocial.  Yes, it helps.  Those few days a week, I have to hold eye contact, make small talk and I go through a range of emotions from frustration to laughter with real people in front of me. 

Interestingly, I often wonder what came first, working from home or the anti-social behaviour.  Sometimes I think it's just age and timing.  When I moved out to the burbs I slowly lost touch with my old friends but never really made friends in the new neighbourhood.

However, I notice that my decline began when I first started working from home.  I was an outgoing person before but after a few years I started noticing that when talking to people IRL I would stumble and get nervous. 

There was probably an inclination in me already because my dad is socially awkward (but my mom is a social butterfly) but I do think working from home makes people who have the tendency become worse. 

You seem like a very social person with the big network of friends so you may not understand, but loneliness is very much a problem in our society and many people smarter than you and me who study this stuff believe that WFH and social media are leading causes of it.

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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2021, 02:17:49 pm »
I can see why WFH could cause it but not social media.

I'm not sure if I am introverted or extroverted.

I asked Joan and she said probably more of an extrovert.

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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2021, 07:28:30 pm »
Yes, but if your antisocial is the forest social interaction of work actually helpful? I mean it's so minimal

Will anti-social people become more or less antisocial when not exposed to interaction with people all day?  The answer is very obvious.

People who are social butterflies will probably adapt, they will be compelled to start talking to neighbours and whatnot because its their nature.  Others not so much.

We should be worried about the types of people who spend all day on internet message boards lol.
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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2021, 01:30:24 am »
I'm reminded of stories about lighthouse keepers driven mad by their isolation. There was something more insidious happening however.

To keep the lighthouse lamp perfectly aligned with the horizon it was floated on a pool of liquid mercury. The heat from the lamp evaporated the mercury exposing the hapless lighthouse keepers to the brain destroying effects of mercury vapors.

I seem to crave isolation and often worked on that above-mentioned horizon alone on my boat - I sorta felt like I was at home.
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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2021, 07:12:47 am »
Ever seen the movie The lighthouse? Pretty cool