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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Wonder Woman
« on: June 09, 2017, 06:39:30 am »
What good does that do?    Pay equity, and the underlying issues, have been talked about for a long time, and really very little has changed. Ultimately many of the factors in the often-quoted pay gap between men and women aren't a result of outright discrimination anyway, but rather a result of choices.   One thing that really help close the pay gap in the future would be if more women went into STEM careers instead of traditional female careers.  Who knows, maybe if I'd had Agent Patterson on my TV when I was a kimlet instead of Kelli Bundy, maybe I would have made different choices in my life.  Who can say?

I had to look up STEM careers. 

Well, ok if equality is a lost cause then I suppose we can focus on cultural symbols.  Maybe that's a sign that we're all well-enough off, who knows. 


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I don't know enough to comment on the nature/nurture debate, but I personally feel that having a Barbie that whines "Math is hard" probably wasn't very helpful for young girls. In previous generations, the Disney princess would wait for a heroic prince to come and save her... in 2015 Princess Elsa skips the boyfriend part and just fixes things on her own. In previous times her worth would be validated if the handsome prince loved her, but now she can prove her own worth.     In times gone by, a superhero movie would have the damsel in distress tied up and wait for the hero to come rescue her. In The Avengers movie, the Black Widow is tied to a chair while some bad-guys attempt to interrogate her... once they've told her everything she needs to know, she quite easily frees herself and smacks the **** out of everybody without a needing hero coming to her rescue-- quite deliberately lampooning the damsel-in-distress trope.  It used to be that the women in these movies-- action movies in general, really-- were just props for the men.


The genre has been with us for over 80 years.... I can't think it survived this long without being relevant to people in some way.

And I think that stories with fantastical premises often allow writers to explore themes that they simply couldn't in a story set on a couch in a crappy Paris apartment.


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What's this Paris movie ?  I want to see it !

Sure, the genre is relevant, but as I have been saying on the other thread it's on the back of the cultural infrastructure.  It may mean that they're mining cultural memory to maximize profits for the mass market.  But mass culture itself is dying now, and what replaces it will be more accommodating to alternative viewpoints IMO.

Again, be careful what you wish for.  We will have 'diversity' on a mass scale in the way of backwater towns with vastly different culture than San Francisco or Toronto.  I know where I want to live.