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Offline The Cynic

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« Reply #360 on: November 24, 2021, 11:58:50 am »
The many ways woke culture harms all institutions subjected to it. Canada's government now seems to regard equity and diversity hiring plans as a much more important consideration in awarding science grants than the science itself. Imagine this freak trying to suggest he should be hiring on merit! Wow! What country was he born in!? Obviously not Canada!

An award-winning Canadian scientist said he has been refused two federal government grants for his research on the grounds of “lack of diversity” — even though he is originally from India and has repeatedly suffered racism.

Patanjali Kambhampati, a professor in the chemistry department at Montreal’s McGill University, believes the death knell for the latest grant was a line in the application form where he was asked about hiring staff based on diversity and inclusion considerations. He says his mistake was maintaining that he would hire on merit any research assistant who was qualified, regardless of their identity.


https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/minority-professor-denied-grants-because-he-hires-on-merit-people-are-afraid-to-think

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« Reply #361 on: November 24, 2021, 12:08:27 pm »
Imagine proposing a weighted voting system which said that even though they were a minority in an organization, white votes would be given more weight so that they were never in the minority. The howls from the progressives would echo across Canada and all its lefty politicians would be fuming. But put in place the opposite system, where white votes are counted for less than that of various minority groups, and that's 'progressive'.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-teachers-union-implements-controversial-weighted-voting-system-to-increase-minority-representation

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« Reply #362 on: November 24, 2021, 01:02:25 pm »
The many ways woke culture harms all institutions subjected to it. Canada's government now seems to regard equity and diversity hiring plans as a much more important consideration in awarding science grants than the science itself. 
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/minority-professor-denied-grants-because-he-hires-on-merit-people-are-afraid-to-think

"A request for comment from NSERC was not answered on Tuesday."

There are contradictory statements in that article but let's see what NSERC says.

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« Reply #363 on: November 24, 2021, 01:50:01 pm »
Imagine proposing a weighted voting system which said that even though they were a minority in an organization, white votes would be given more weight so that they were never in the minority. The howls from the progressives would echo across Canada and all its lefty politicians would be fuming. But put in place the opposite system, where white votes are counted for less than that of various minority groups, and that's 'progressive'.

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The system applies to one local bargaining unit, located in the Halton region, of the larger Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation (OSSTF). The local unit represents roughly 1,400 teachers and staff, according to the website. A motion was proposed at the union’s June annual general meeting and it passed with the support of 68 per cent of delegates.

Such weighted voting does not apply to the whole local’s rank and file; rather, it applies to decisions made by the board of local presidents, who represent the teachers at each school when it comes time to make decisions, explained Daryl LeBlanc, a teacher and branch president with the union.

Right out of the anti-woke playbook:

1. Find some silly/minor anecdote about excessive wokeness
2. Blow up the lede but bury the context and details
3. EVERYBODY PANIC

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« Reply #364 on: November 24, 2021, 05:08:36 pm »
Have a friend who works in gov.  There's no mandatory woke/social justice courses.  The closest thing would be courses on harassment prevention, but that's not woke that's just reminding employees to follow the law and what to do if you're harassed because some colleagues and bosses are a-holes.

However, apparently there are a gazillion optional SJW-type courses (diversity, inclusion, LGBT awareness etc).

I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.
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« Reply #365 on: November 24, 2021, 05:20:00 pm »
"A request for comment from NSERC was not answered on Tuesday."

There are contradictory statements in that article but let's see what NSERC says.

Love to be the subject of a single-sourced article in a major daily newspaper and complain about being silenced. My man does not come off as very professional; maybe he's got a gig at Antiwoke U lined up.
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« Reply #366 on: November 24, 2021, 05:34:43 pm »
Love to be the subject of a single-sourced article in a major daily newspaper and complain about being silenced. My man does not come off as very professional; maybe he's got a gig at Antiwoke U lined up.

Let's wait and see.  These things have about 1 chance in 50 of having some validity so maybe this is the 'one'.

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« Reply #367 on: November 24, 2021, 05:44:05 pm »
Let's wait and see.  These things have about 1 chance in 50 of having some validity so maybe this is the 'one'.

It's funny because there's a million ways to spin this stuff, get the grant and still hire your favourite grad student, but buddy obviously thought being the new cause célèbre for the anti-woke brigade was more important than his research. 

What also gets me about the complaint here is the idea that being open to hiring people from underrepresented groups means you have to hire someone who isn't qualified which sort of gives the game away.

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« Reply #368 on: November 24, 2021, 06:21:29 pm »
Have a friend who works in gov.  There's no mandatory woke/social justice courses.  The closest thing would be courses on harassment prevention, but that's not woke that's just reminding employees to follow the law and what to do if you're harassed because some colleagues and bosses are a-holes.

However, apparently there are a gazillion optional SJW-type courses (diversity, inclusion, LGBT awareness etc).

Already knew that Cynic was a liar, but thanks for confirming.
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« Reply #369 on: November 24, 2021, 06:25:27 pm »
I ran the story by an authoritative source.

I will post their response later, but the short version is that the professor is grandstanding and intentionally did this for publicity.

But ok, let me post the rest later..

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« Reply #370 on: November 24, 2021, 06:44:20 pm »
I'm sure there's some examples of systemic racism we can dig up.  I think racism itself exists obviously.  It is a problem.  However, I think there's also problems holding people back too we should also focus on.

One example of systemic racism might be the discrepancy in funding to schools in mostly black communities.

We don't have any of those I'm aware of. The idea that every institution in Canada is racist is ludicrous. That Mr Blackface would say every part of the federal government is full of systemic racism is just virtue signalling to his devoted progressive followers.

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« Reply #371 on: November 24, 2021, 06:48:25 pm »


Single motherhood and drugs have also harmed a lot of middle and lower class white people in the US too.

In the US the communities with the highest rates of two-parent families have the highest rates of economic health. And obviously, the ones with the highest rates of single-parent families have the least. Yet the woke brigade insisted we should ignore that and attribute community success or failure entirely to racism and white supremacy. And please ignore that the most successful are Asians and Jews, because that doesn't seem to fit in with the 'white supremacy' argument.

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« Reply #372 on: November 24, 2021, 06:49:23 pm »
Right out of the anti-woke playbook:

1. Find some silly/minor anecdote about excessive wokeness
2. Blow up the lede but bury the context and details
3. EVERYBODY PANIC

So you're saying the board of presidents is an inconsequential group, is that it? So racism is okay? And yet you and your shrill friends in ANTIFA are the ones who go crazy whenever anyone mildly conservative tries to demonstrate or give a speech. Why? It's a one-time event not even on TV? It's inconsequential? Why are you willing to break the law and commit acts of violence to stop it?

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« Reply #373 on: November 24, 2021, 06:52:24 pm »
Already knew that Cynic was a liar, but thanks for confirming.

Wait! When I said I knew people in government you dismissed it! Now he says the same thing and its biblical lore! What a fuking hypocrite you are! As long as someone agrees with you then it's golden, right!?
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« Reply #374 on: November 24, 2021, 06:53:25 pm »
Have a friend who works in gov.  There's no mandatory woke/social justice courses. 

What government and what department? You are aware that federal government departments and agencies all have separate policies, right?
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