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Offline cybercoma

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2018, 07:08:58 am »
So if you were living in isolation you wouldn't think twice when killing an animal, or about the method of killing it?  Would you let a bird land in your hand to feed and then crush it with your bare hand just for fun?

I think you're right about social action, but animals are living beings like humans so it also comes with social action, or at least a conscience since they also feel pain.,
If I was living in isolation I would need to kill animals for food and self defence. If I was living in isolation, I wouldn't have a sense of the social sanctions to killing because there is no social in isolation. This is a purely abstract hypothetical where someone is raised in isolation without any socialization whatsoever. In reality, this doesn't happen because we are born into social groups, ie, family.

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2018, 05:26:35 pm »
If I was living in isolation I would need to kill animals for food and self defence. If I was living in isolation, I wouldn't have a sense of the social sanctions to killing because there is no social in isolation. This is a purely abstract hypothetical where someone is raised in isolation without any socialization whatsoever. In reality, this doesn't happen because we are born into social groups, ie, family.

Yes you'd kill for food, but there's also humane and inhumane says to kill.  If you grew up in total isolation maybe that would be different, but hard to predict how someone would feel about animals.  Most probably wouldn't think twice, others might.
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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2018, 08:15:17 am »
http://www.openculture.com/2018/12/bertrand-russells-advice-for-how-not-to-grow-old.html?fbclid=IwAR2J_ecfdTShvwAGFsf_i5FEcMwR8tR7o2SaOWGlqcRGSQ2LcNwPJnbZ2yg

Bertrand Russell was a philosopher and mathematician - this advice comes via him originally from his grandma:

"The best way to overcome it [the fear of death]—so at least it seems to me—is to make your interests gradually wider and more impersonal, until bit by bit the walls of the ego recede, and your life becomes increasingly merged in the universal life. An individual human existence should be like a river: small at first, narrowly contained within its banks, and rushing passionately past rocks and over waterfalls. Gradually the river grows wider, the banks recede, the waters flow more quietly, and in the end, without any visible break, they become merged in the sea, and painlessly lose their individual being. The man who, in old age, can see his life in this way, will not suffer from the fear of death, since the things he cares for will continue. And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will not be unwelcome. I should wish to die while still at work, knowing that others will carry on what I can no longer do and content in the thought that what was possible has been done."

I think I have been doing this.  Our job is to merge the personal political interests of today and create a new way to perceive and consider future events. 

Rather than spending money/frugality or accepting people/protecting our own ... come up with a new lens such as "save now versus pay later" "assess how to allow individuals to make wise choices that will cascade up to our leaders" "think about what is truly valuable".

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2019, 02:59:42 pm »
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People always believe they save time by taking a taxi. Let's say you take a taxi and it takes 10 minutes when walking would take 20. Mathematically, you save 10 minutes. But in those 10 minutes in a taxi, you didn't experience anything. If you walk in New York, nothing great is going to happen, necessarily, but something is going to happen. That makes those 20 minutes so much more rich than the 10 minutes in the taxi. So I'm not walking because I think it's better than driving. I'm walking because life is getting a little bit richer than if you drive.

https://www.gq.com/story/why-walking-is-the-key-to-being-more-productive

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Re: Philosophy Culture
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2019, 06:10:22 pm »
Except that the cab drivers are wellsprings of knowledge, ie. where you get weed.
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