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« Reply #150 on: October 23, 2018, 03:55:23 pm »
Another John Oliver video. Because it popped up on my youtube feed due to the first one. This one is about 'astroturfing', a phrase I had never heard of. It's about false front lobbying organizations which purport to be lobbying on behalf of ordinary people, but are really funded by corporations - or someone. Not only do they advertise, but they hire phony experts to testify before government, and even paid demonstrators. All of this degrades and confuses public dialogue and casts suspicion on everyone involved.

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« Reply #151 on: October 23, 2018, 04:34:36 pm »
It's about false front lobbying organizations which purport to be lobbying on behalf of ordinary people, but are really funded by corporations - or someone.

Canadian Taxpayer Federation
Fraser Institute

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« Reply #152 on: October 23, 2018, 07:38:05 pm »
Canadian Taxpayer Federation
Fraser Institute

Nope.
He's talking about organizations which don't really exist. They're just a name and  PO box, and they buy commercials and hire liars and actors.
The organizations above most definitely do exist and have for a very long time. Their directors are well known and they make no bones about what they're doing and what they stand for.
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« Reply #153 on: November 18, 2018, 07:36:46 pm »
The cold, cruel viciousness of Reddit and the harsh brutality of the videos found on it.


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« Reply #154 on: November 18, 2018, 09:11:51 pm »
Oh the humanity!





Reddit is a strange place... a nexus of everything from the most adorable animal pictures and videos to a meeting-place for the alt-right, actual Nazis, and conspiracy idiots.

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« Reply #155 on: November 19, 2018, 09:15:07 am »
Reddit is a strange place... a nexus of everything from the most adorable animal pictures and videos to a meeting-place for the alt-right, actual Nazis, and conspiracy idiots.

The way they present is is a list of topics taken from a variety of groups based on how much upvoting they've had. Which means if you don't check you don't know what sub-reddit you may have fallen into when you open one up. I saw one outraged post about how 22% of police shootings were blacks, and how this was clearly racist based on it being out of proportion to their numbers. Naturally I replied stating - very politely - that if you take into account that the police are likely to be shooting criminals or those resisting arrest, and that blacks commit a lot more than 22% of robberies, **** and murders, it really isn't an indication of racism.

I was banned immediately.

The subreddit in question was for blacks, and apparently one of their own special rules is that you cannot quote police or FBI statistics on black crime. I hadn't actually quoted statistics, but that didn't seem to matter. I still see continuing feeds from them on the 'popular' list, screaming about police abuse, but <shrug> they clearly only want an echo chamber so they can whine about how abused they are. Not that different from the incels and alt-right in that regard, really.
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« Reply #156 on: November 19, 2018, 04:33:08 pm »
You completely ignore the context of hose statistics. That’s why you were banned. It’s been explained to you numerous times why the statistics are skewed, but your racist and bigoted inclinations lead you to ignore those facts over and over again.
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« Reply #157 on: November 19, 2018, 04:50:08 pm »
Hose statistics.

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« Reply #158 on: November 19, 2018, 06:53:36 pm »
Hose statistics.

The FBI uniform crime data.
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« Reply #159 on: November 19, 2018, 06:58:10 pm »
You completely ignore the context of hose statistics. That’s why you were banned. It’s been explained to you numerous times why the statistics are skewed, but your racist and bigoted inclinations lead you to ignore those facts over and over again.

My inclination when someone quotes statistics whining about how they are disproportionately being subjected to police attention is to mention the entirely contextual fact they commit a disproportionate amount of crime - not drug crime, but violent crime, in every jurisdiction, even the ones with very 'woke' administrations. Your ignorant, liberal bigotry spews excuses like wet farts, but ignores the fact that the numbers being arrested are identical to the descriptions in victim statements. No, it's not the poor black man being unfairly subjected to a keen, suspicious racist police force (half of which are run by Black chiefs these days) but their own violence arising from a subculture which praises extreme and violent machismo. There's no coherent or intelligent argument to be made for complaining about this other than your own deep-seated racism in which you make excuses for the behaviour of people you presume are incapable of meeting the same standards as white people.



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« Reply #160 on: November 19, 2018, 07:28:33 pm »
You completely ignore the context of hose statistics.

Hose.  Statistics. 
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« Reply #161 on: November 20, 2018, 03:57:56 pm »
My inclination when someone quotes statistics whining about how they are disproportionately being subjected to police attention is to mention the entirely contextual fact they commit a disproportionate amount of crime - not drug crime, but violent crime, in every jurisdiction, even the ones with very 'woke' administrations. Your ignorant, liberal bigotry spews excuses like wet farts, but ignores the fact that the numbers being arrested are identical to the descriptions in victim statements. No, it's not the poor black man being unfairly subjected to a keen, suspicious racist police force (half of which are run by Black chiefs these days) but their own violence arising from a subculture which praises extreme and violent machismo. There's no coherent or intelligent argument to be made for complaining about this other than your own deep-seated racism in which you make excuses for the behaviour of people you presume are incapable of meeting the same standards as white people.

Alex, I'll take a redundant, superfluous, adjective for $100

b.t.w. I see that Black police chiefs are doing excellent according to your assessment. I couldn't find that data, but I could find percentage African American police officers by cities, and it seems that they are getting promoted well above average according to your data. Curious where you got that from.

Los Angeles: 11.6%
New York City: 16.1%
Atlanta: 57.9%
Dallas: 25.3%
Baltimore: 11.5%
Buffalo: 29.1%
Berkley: 16.3%
Dayton: 9.4%
Chicago: 24.7%
Detroit: 62.6%
Kansas City: 12.8%
San Francisco: 9.0%
Washington: 59.3%
Houston: 22.8%
Daly City: 6.4%
Jersey City: 10.0%
Tucson: 2.0%
San Bernardino: 9.7%


Nation wide Black police are about 10-11%, and that has been fairly steady since about 1990. I guess they must be very smart since they are becoming 50% of the chiefs.
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« Reply #162 on: November 20, 2018, 04:38:46 pm »
Alex, I'll take a redundant, superfluous, adjective

Redundant and superfluous are apt descriptions for just about everything you write.
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« Reply #163 on: November 20, 2018, 06:48:09 pm »
So I have been banned from another reddit group, for pretty much the same reason. This one was sandersforpresident. Apparently pointing out that Sanders would be 80 years old before he could be sworn in, and that he's one of the few candidates who could make Trump seem young, was not appreciated. Much like the 'poor black us' group they don't seem much interested in contrary views.  ;D
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« Reply #164 on: November 20, 2018, 06:49:41 pm »
Apparently pointing out that Sanders would be 80 years old ...

Did you do it politely?

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