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Offline TimG

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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2019, 02:57:16 pm »
I bet you argue that the problem with wind and solar is that we don't have storage technology, and now you argue that storage technology must rely on fossil fuels. I would say both your glasses are half empty.
Fossil fuels are the storage technology that is available. Without them wind and solar and EVs are useless.

Again, you ignore the many alternatives like reducing our consumption of meat. Lower GHG emissions, lower land usage, significantly lower water usage, etc.  Same applies to shelter. We don't need to live in climate controlled monster mansions and offices with zero insulation.
A laundry list of the mantras from the church of the eco-apocalypse. I am sure you would love it if we reduced our standard of living to the level of Somali or Haiti but most people want the comforts that come from a modern society and cherry picking those comforts that you don't happen to want to use does not make you any different. 

Again, for the 103954731935717834th time, the economy is an artificial construct and it is what we make it to be. The environment is real, the economy is not.
BS. The economy is the blood that keeps society going. Without it flowing no one will care about environmental concerns because the could not afford to do anything about them even if they did care. That is why the economy matters first.
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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2019, 03:21:12 pm »
Except the electricity to power these cars has to come from somewhere and that often means coal or gas. Then you have the awkward problem is our grid cannot handle a significant number of EVs and no politician wants to talk about who has to pay for those upgrades because they don't lend themselves to cool slogans or photo shoots.

You seem to think that in order to have a viable economy we need to keep polluting the air with fossil fuels. If we all keep on that type of  blinders we certainly will have a failing economy. Only so much crap left under the dirt.

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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2019, 05:37:03 pm »
The only actual discussion going on is not about lowering emissions but about how much do we waste pretending to lower emissions without actually killing the economy in the process.  This discussion is not helped by the large number of people who are completely ignorant when it comes to economics - "economics deniers" would not be an unreasonable label for these folks.
Killing the economy will destroy the world - what else do people need to know?

"Economic alarmist" seems like a reasonable label to me.
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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2019, 05:40:49 pm »
If only we could have a controlled experiment for the environmental apocalypse.....THEN Tim would be on board.  :D
Easter Island is often given as an example of what we might expect. Not exactly the end of the world or even the economy but definitely not what it used to be.

So long as the supply ships keep coming Easter Islanders will do just fine.

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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2020, 07:33:19 pm »
We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA.  There’s an EC air quality warning out. 

Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....

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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2020, 08:43:08 pm »
We’re getting a distinct smell of smoke from wildfires burning in the USofA.  There’s an EC air quality warning out. 

Apparently, Vancouver is pretty hazy....

The fuel dock looking towards Granville Island doesn’t look hazy right now... (17:30)

I'm in Surrey, and was thinking if spending the afternoon on the patio, but the smoke was too much, made my throat hurt.
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« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2020, 03:21:20 pm »
Smoky from the American wildfires again today. It’s pretty gross.  Acrid smell and a slight burning in the eyes....   

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« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2020, 04:30:37 pm »
The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks.   The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.



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« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2020, 05:08:16 pm »
The smoke is here today, bigtime. We got off light for most of the summer, with just a couple of local fires to the south. But today visibility is down to a few blocks.   The only thing I have left on my 2020 disaster bingo card is a famine.

Not to worry....   if you look past your own backyard, you’ll find that too...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines


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« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2020, 12:43:47 pm »
I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.

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« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2020, 02:04:10 pm »
It's a little better out here on the coast today but still not very pleasant.  I talked with a couple of fishermen who were miles and miles out at sea who say it was no better and even worse at times.  An approaching low with southeast winds and rain should help but there's a lot of smoke out there.
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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2020, 01:12:56 pm »
Wasn't too bad earlier this morning where we are. The sun wasn't red for a change. Did a 5K walk this morning wearing a mask and that wasn't very pleasant. Been running the furnace fan with a MERV 13 filter and it seems to help the inside air quality.
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« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2020, 07:01:31 pm »
I'm not even attempting to go to work today. I'm trying to do some work at home. I didn't sleep well, I'm coughing, my eyes are watering, and my sinuses are inflamed. This is pretty bad.

 -k
I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.

Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er.  His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep.  One less thing right?  Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.
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« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2020, 09:51:26 pm »
I've been suffering from lack of sleep for years due to a deviated septum stemming from a busted nose. Sinuses on both sides plug up with one worse than the other no matter which side I sleep on. Colds, pollen and of course smoke don't help a bit.

Smoke probably just gets the alien in my chest excited too the little ****er.  His day is coming though... maybe I'll be able too look forward to getting a better sleep.  One less thing right?  Not looking forward to having my nose rebusted though. I certainly didn't enjoy it the first time which is probably a better story for the drunk culture thread.

Did you ever try these?  My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.


I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose.  The Sleep Rights work well for me.
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Time for bed said Zebedee...

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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2020, 08:57:41 pm »
Did you ever try these?  My sinuses plug up due to allergies and I hate taking pills except in cases of extreme distress.


I used to use the Breathe Right strips, but using them every night flays the nose.  The Sleep Rights work well for me.
I usually flip and flop around so much I'd probably knock them loose but I'll give them a whirl, thanks. I tried wearing earplugs to blank out the noise of waves slapping against the hull and the groaning of wooden timbers and such when sleeping in big seas at night. Firing up the engine to mask the noise actually worked better.  If I could sleep standing up I would because nothing seems to clear up a bent windpipe faster.  Sleeping pills don't seem to do a thing for me.  I suppose I could reinforce that with booze but I'd just have to wake up again and I'd probably be even crankier than usual so...