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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2022, 09:59:46 pm »
Quote from: Squidward von Squidderson on December 12, 2022, 07:09:03 pm
You don’t know about nuclear waste?  Or the potential for disaster around a nuclear reactor?  Are you really that ignorant?

I'm pretty ignorant yeah.

What's nuclear waste?
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2022, 10:09:38 pm »
Quote from: MH on December 12, 2022, 08:41:34 pm
I'm one of the few who dares to say something about Alberta.  As opposed to Albertans who never shut up about Ontario and Quebec

Ontarioians never crap on Alberta.

Every province deserves most of what they get crapped on for.

I'm really starting to like the atlantic provinces more and more.  Mainly blue collar normal people.  I had a newfie as a neighbour once, he was a nice guy.

BC = socialist hippy dopesmokers & drugged up anarchists
Alberta = small town folk (bigots)
Saskachewan = more small town folk (bigots) and aboriginals
Manitoba = aboriginals + JMT
Ontario = Urban yuppies
Quebec = party animals + annoying french nationalists
East of Quebec = nice blue collar folk + cybercoma
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2022, 06:02:32 am »
I love all of it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2023, 11:25:04 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2023, 05:11:00 am »
Social trends are difficult to understand.

Did you know that Americans who work with us see us as passive aggressive?  I can totally see why
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2023, 04:47:37 pm »
Quote from: Queefer Sutherland on February 10, 2023, 11:25:04 pm
Protect everyone from anything uncomfortable.  It will make them stronger and more resilient:

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/zwaagstra-dont-scrap-final-exams-some-stress-is-good-for-students?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Z1gh4GePrNj9QUuVp1eN3VwZycyWjwglJHDoL0tSsPC7-VvZY8qij42s#Echobox=1675978832

I'd love to see some actual evidence that final exams actually contribute to learning versus other methods of assessment. Because "building character" is a pretty dumb reason to have them if you can achieve the same results with other methods.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2023, 01:35:24 am »
Quote from: Black Dog on February 13, 2023, 04:47:37 pm
I'd love to see some actual evidence that final exams actually contribute to learning versus other methods of assessment. Because "building character" is a pretty dumb reason to have them if you can achieve the same results with other methods.

I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2023, 04:52:38 am »
Miss Linda retired a long time ago.
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2023, 09:57:09 am »
Quote from: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 01:35:24 am
I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.

I noticed you shifted the goalposts from "stress" to mere "discomfort." This type of strawman is quickly becoming your stock-in-trade.

"We know that stress is very bad for people's mental and physical health, but what this article presupposes is... maybe it's not?"
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2023, 10:32:31 am »
Quote from: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 01:35:24 am
I'd love to see evidence that teachers and parents sheltering youth from all discomfort is good for them in the longterm, and prepares them for college and the working world where mom and Ms Linda won't be around to protect them.
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2023, 10:38:25 am »
Quote from: Slim Shady on February 14, 2023, 10:32:31 am
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.

"We have lots of data!" *fails to include data*

Classic Shitbag.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2023, 05:08:06 pm »
Quote from: Bubbermiley on February 14, 2023, 04:52:38 am
Miss Linda retired a long time ago.

Ms Linda just told students they didn't have to do exams and they can go home and relax for exam week.  Poor babies.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2023, 05:22:06 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog on February 14, 2023, 09:57:09 am
I noticed you shifted the goalposts from "stress" to mere "discomfort." This type of strawman is quickly becoming your stock-in-trade.

"We know that stress is very bad for people's mental and physical health, but what this article presupposes is... maybe it's not?"

Weird Queefer conspiracy theories and red herrings aside, are you saying that students will never have to deal with stress when they are adults without teachers and parents able to shield them from it all?

You do realize that if you're never exposed to stress....or discomfort... you'll never be able to develop the tools to be able to properly deal with it when it inevitably occurs.   Exposure to stressful situations is not what causes mental illness, it's our ability and capacity to deal with it.

When these kids go into a job interview or need to meet a tight work deadline nobody will be there to shelter them from it.  Give students exams, and teach them how to properly deal with the pressure.  Cognitive therapy is all about exposure and learning to deal with stress and fear.

This policy is just more toxic compassion from an overly maternalized education system.  Its no wonder males do worse in school and graduate from post-secondary at lower rates.  Participation trophies for everyone!
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2023, 05:31:28 pm »
Quote from: Queefer Sutherland on February 14, 2023, 05:22:06 pm
Weird Queefer conspiracy theories and red herrings aside, are you saying that students will never have to deal with stress when they are adults without teachers and parents able to shield them from it all?

No.

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You do realize that if you're never exposed to stress....or discomfort... you'll never be able to develop the tools to be able to properly deal with it when it inevitably occurs. Exposure to stressful situations is not what causes mental illness, it's our ability and capacity to deal with it.

There's a grain of truth to that, but I also think that kids are exposed to plenty of stress and that adding additional stressors on purpose to try and toughen them up is kinda psychotic. You can teach kids to deal with and manage stress without just like putting them in a stressful situation without any preparation.

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When these kids go into a job interview or need to meet a tight work deadline nobody will be there to shelter them from it.  Give kids exams, and teach them how to deal with the pressure.

Putting someone in a stressful situation without giving them the tools to manage the stress isn't helpful.

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This policy is just more toxic compassion from an overly maternalized education system. Its no wonder males do worse in school and graduate from post-secondary at lower rates.  Participation trophies for everyone!

Yeah yeah yeah let me guess you had tons of tressful situations and turned out fine.



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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2023, 05:35:37 pm »
Quote from: Slim Shady on February 14, 2023, 10:32:31 am
It is demonstrably bad for them.  We now have a couple of decades worth of data to look at.  They're completely unprepared for the real world.

No psychologist would recommend sheltering teenagers from all their stresses and fears.  They would tell them to gradually increase their exposure and give them guidance on how to deal with it.  It's no different than building a callus.  You don't tell someone not to walk very far because their feet hurt after walking a mile.

They think they're helping students, but they're actually setting them up for problems in the future and limiting their resilience.  Clearly 1 year of teachers college wasn't enough to train educators properly on child psychology.
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