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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Unemployment Culture
« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2017, 04:51:05 am »
You're right.  But I expect to be unemployed again soon.
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« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2017, 11:58:36 pm »
Quote from: MH on November 24, 2017, 04:51:05 am
You're right.  But I expect to be unemployed again soon.

That’s the spirit!!
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Re-employment Culture (renamed)
« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2017, 07:24:54 am »
Sweet Squid..

Firstly, I have renamed the thread and will rename it again when I get fired.

Secondly, I think the guy running our company is a Muslim, but very Canadianized. 

Thirdly, this is the most diverse company I have ever worked for.  But that doesn't mean what you think.  There are 'diverse' companies with lots of Asian, and even African heritage folks but they are all really just young companies with diverse young people right out of school.  This company has old white dudes, middle aged white ladies, Spanish folks, women in headscarves, everything all together.

Fourthly, we are a tech startup.  If you don't know what that means, or what they're like to work in, that's ok.  But for this revelation, the point you need to know is: money.  There is so much money in these startups, provided by reach people who are placing $5M $10M bets hoping to be the next Uber, or Air BnB.  So you are always walking by the CEO in the hallway nodding 'hi' and thinking well he could be a billionaire if this all works out.  So last night he announced that 80% of our shares will be placed in a charitable trust to be administered by the employees moving forward.

I am still rather stunned by this news.  It makes me want to stay there, of course.  I think I am a little ashamed of making negative assumptions of peoples' motives. 
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Re-employment Culture (renamed)
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2017, 06:52:08 am »
JEEz... I slept in!  Hasn't happened in years.

With help from wife, made it from bed to Yorkdale GO station in 35, with showered body and ironed clothes.

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Re: Re-employment Culture (renamed)
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2017, 08:19:06 am »
**** you're amazing.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2017, 10:10:47 am »
Finally you get me.
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Re: Unemployment Culture
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2017, 01:01:50 pm »
Quote from: MH on July 19, 2017, 02:51:46 pm
Went to a patio with the wife, sister-in-law and niece visiting from Calgary.  Kensington Market on a weekday is very nice.  Beer, dubbles and fries :)

Kensington Market is awesome!
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« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2017, 01:03:40 pm »
Going to toot my own horn:

Everytime I think I can't create a more perfect newsletter for our clients...........I do!    :D
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« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2017, 02:39:51 pm »
Quote from: MH on November 02, 2017, 06:21:04 am
Okaaaay.... 3rd day in and we're looking at a rollout of a major software package that will have high visibility in a major Canadian chain.  The director of QA says she needs 4 more months to test, and the Business Analyst says maybe 1 week.

 ??? ??? ???

IBM? The same folks who rolled out the Phoenix pay system for the federal government?
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« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2017, 05:18:52 pm »
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IBM? The same folks who rolled out the Phoenix pay system for the federal government?

yeesh! I thought you would have learned your lesson from your bigly fail on the 'other board' given the way you were so burned over your lack of knowledge/insight concerning IT projects vis-a-vis the long-gun registry. You are consistent though! In 2015, IBM was ignored in its recommendation to Harper Conservatives not to implement the system at that time given outstanding problems... notwithstanding:
 
Conservatives took payroll training responsibilities away from Phoenix creator IBM --- http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-took-phoenix-training-away-from-ibm-1.3779917 

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« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2017, 06:58:18 pm »
Quote from: waldo on December 01, 2017, 05:18:52 pm
yeesh! I thought you would have learned your lesson from your bigly fail on the 'other board' given the way you were so burned over your lack of knowledge/insight concerning IT projects vis-a-vis the long-gun registry. You are consistent though! In 2015, IBM was ignored in its recommendation to Harper Conservatives not to implement the system at that time given outstanding problems... notwithstanding:
 
Conservatives took payroll training responsibilities away from Phoenix creator IBM --- http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-took-phoenix-training-away-from-ibm-1.3779917

Waldo, I have to say that when it comes to consistent, that's definitely you -  in being the most consistently unpleasant person on any web forum I've been on in the past ten years. Congratulations. I write a one-line non-political comment and you still have to rush up and get a shot in and wave your tiny dick around.

FYI the government ALWAYS does in-house training of its own systems. It doesn't want to continue to pay expensive outside trainers for decades, and why should it? I got in-house training myself in my early years there in the department's version of SAPs software, and later became an in-house trainer. As for politics, this system had huge problems and yet your precious Liberals still laid off 2600 HR workers and gave the okay to take it live across 36 departments in February of 2016.
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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2017, 12:52:23 am »
Quote from: SirJohn on December 01, 2017, 06:58:18 pm
Waldo, I have to say that when it comes to consistent, that's definitely you -  in being the most consistently unpleasant person on any web forum I've been on in the past ten years. Congratulations. I write a one-line non-political comment and you still have to rush up and get a shot in and wave your tiny dick around.

so many of your replies speak to your obsession with dicks - wassup?

Quote from: SirJohn on December 01, 2017, 06:58:18 pm
FYI the government ALWAYS does in-house training of its own systems. It doesn't want to continue to pay expensive outside trainers for decades, and why should it? I got in-house training myself in my early years there in the department's version of SAPs software, and later became an in-house trainer. As for politics, this system had huge problems and yet your precious Liberals still laid off 2600 HR workers and gave the okay to take it live across 36 departments in February of 2016.

as its been stated in numerous media accounts, the single greatest problem with the deployment, problem resolution and ongoing support was/is a lack of knowledgeable end-users given either an outright absence of training or poor quality training - feel free to attempt to counter that waldoFactoid. It was the genius of Harper Conservatives that pushed for the system design to eliminate all those payroll clerks you improperly labelled as "2600 HR workers"... per that presumed money saving Harper Conservative design criteria, point in fact, is that data input is now being solely handled by HR personnel who lack proper understanding of the system and who were never properly trained in the first place, if at all. But once again, in your most profound blowhardiness, you showcase you know nothing about the design, build, implementation and support related to IT systems/projects.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Unemployment Culture
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2017, 08:50:51 am »
Quote from: SirJohn on December 01, 2017, 02:39:51 pm
IBM? The same folks who rolled out the Phoenix pay system for the federal government?

No, it's not IBM.
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Re: Unemployment Culture
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2017, 11:45:59 am »
Quote from: waldo on December 02, 2017, 12:52:23 am
so many of your replies speak to your obsession with dicks - wassup?

Maybe because I talk to so many dicks online.

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as its been stated in numerous media accounts, the single greatest problem with the deployment, problem resolution and ongoing support was/is a lack of knowledgeable end-users given either an outright absence of training or poor quality training

Nope. The problem was they fired 2600 staffers because despite the disastrous early tests and problems they decided to go all in and were sure they wouldn't need all those people any more.

The real problem was that they went ahead last year despite everyone telling them the system had major problems.

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It was the genius of Harper Conservatives that pushed for the system design to eliminate all those payroll clerks you improperly labelled as "2600 HR workers"...

They ARE HR workers, and they were laid off last year, by the Liberals. Eat that.
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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2017, 12:43:26 pm »
Quote from: SirJohn on December 02, 2017, 11:45:59 am
Eat that.

no thanks - that there is SirArgus bullshyte! Again, per the Harper Conservatives want to "presumably" save money, they pressed for the elimination of the prior separate and defined Payroll Department... separate from HR proper. Per that design criteria (i.e., downsizing save money Harper Conservative brainchild) the roll/work of the Payroll Department was integrated into HR. And again, there is strong positioning presented to the tribunal from the government side to state the principal and majority of problems are not caused by a faulty system; rather, the problem is in how the "now HR department" is improperly managing the handling, timing and backlog of payroll additions/changes/requests/etc. - garbage data in - garbage data out! And that SirKnowNothing stems from the equally bone-head decision by Harper Conservatives to completely ignore IBM's warnings in 2015 while also dumping IBM knowledge/training in favour of a, as you say, TrainTheTrainer approach. None of which resulted in the current en masse HR employees (at the implementation phase) being in any position to properly accept and support a new system... poor and or absent training. Apparently, it was left to individual low-level managers to decide if their own areas required training on a system that didn't know and didn't recognize/understand what role their areas might be required to play in it. As you say... eat that!
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