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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: Ultimate Facepunching Championships!
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2019, 07:07:57 am »
I have a brown belt in Wado Ryu karate. Do not try and equate this sick **** you seem to get off on with actual martial arts. Punching people iun the face for fun is SICK ****.

If you don't like it, more power to you, it's certainly not for everyone, it is violent.  But this sick **** it literally bred into our DNA.  We are literally built to fight. Virtually every male, and many females, constantly fantasize about this sick **** from the time they're able to pick up a GI Joe or a water-gun.  Virtually every high-grossing film is based on fulfilling the fantasy of fighting & violence.  Watching MMA fulfills a vital evolutionary need in the human psyche of most men, and many females.  If nobody is permanently brain damaged, I'm all good with it.  There's been a few fights that turned my stomach.

Because of MMA, martial arts has evolved more in the last 25 years than in the previous 2500 years.  I have a black belt in a "traditional" martial art, got it a long time ago.  I can virtually guarantee your brown belt in Wado Ryu karate is next to worthless in an actual fight with someone who knows even a little bit about real fighting, because my black belt is too.  Take it from someone who practiced this kind of stuff for countless hours, this kind of useless nonsense was an almost complete waste of your time & money in terms of self-defense:

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Re: Ultimate Facepunching Championships!
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2019, 11:39:02 am »
I have a brown belt in Wado Ryu karate. Do not try and equate this sick **** you seem to get off on with actual martial arts. Punching people iun the face for fun is SICK ****. So **** off with your ignorance.

lol, who pissed in your corn-flakes?

I competed in judo for years, quite successfully. I've done this at a level beyond kicking planks in a gym.

Everybody in UFC has trained extensively in "traditional" martial arts, and most in several disciplines of martial arts.  Muay thai, wrestling, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu are the most common backgrounds, but Georges St Pierre is a karate black-belt.  When Georges gets in the ring he's not doing goofy karate poses or any of that stuff... he's using some portion of his karate training, combined with elements of other skills he had to learn to supplement his karate training, because karate on its own isn't competitive. Nor is any traditional martial art on its own.  "Mixed martial arts" competitors learn the strongest elements from different disciplines so that they can adapt to different situations.


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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2019, 01:26:59 pm »
If you don't like it, more power to you, it's certainly not for everyone, it is violent.  But this sick **** it literally bred into our DNA.  We are literally built to fight. Virtually every male, and many females, constantly fantasize about this sick **** from the time they're able to pick up a GI Joe or a water-gun.  Virtually every high-grossing film is based on fulfilling the fantasy of fighting & violence.  Watching MMA fulfills a vital evolutionary need in the human psyche of most men, and many females.  If nobody is permanently brain damaged, I'm all good with it.  There's been a few fights that turned my stomach.

Because of MMA, martial arts has evolved more in the last 25 years than in the previous 2500 years.  I have a black belt in a "traditional" martial art, got it a long time ago.  I can virtually guarantee your brown belt in Wado Ryu karate is next to worthless in an actual fight with someone who knows even a little bit about real fighting, because my black belt is too.  Take it from someone who practiced this kind of stuff for countless hours, this kind of useless nonsense was an almost complete waste of your time & money in terms of self-defense:



Well apparently your presumptive DNA theory doesn't apply as you think it does. Mine doesn't in any way instruct me to get any kind of jolly either by whacking someone else over the head or even watch such sick ****. I studied karate, (the title of which means school of peace" because it made my body much more fit and if anything it made me much less likely to want to fight anybody. Ironically the only time I used karate outside the dojo was at a bar across the street where I used to go for a cold one after class while waiting for my gal to pick me up on the way home. Some dolt found out from the bar tender that I was a bit of a regular who showed up after class. He challenged me verbally and when I ignored him he did so physically as well. He found himself thrown out the front door into the street and banned for life by the bar. That's the kind of idiot I suspect ho likes to see people bashing each other. Not anywhere near my dna formula.

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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2019, 01:37:15 pm »
lol, who pissed in your corn-flakes?

I competed in judo for years, quite successfully. I've done this at a level beyond kicking planks in a gym.

Everybody in UFC has trained extensively in "traditional" martial arts, and most in several disciplines of martial arts.  Muay thai, wrestling, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu are the most common backgrounds, but Georges St Pierre is a karate black-belt.  When Georges gets in the ring he's not doing goofy karate poses or any of that stuff... he's using some portion of his karate training, combined with elements of other skills he had to learn to supplement his karate training, because karate on its own isn't competitive. Nor is any traditional martial art on its own.  "Mixed martial arts" competitors learn the strongest elements from different disciplines so that they can adapt to different situations.


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One of the things that turned me completely off when I did try looking at UFC was that they take traditional karate and completely dirty it to appeal to those who mindlessly enjoy violence. Punching, kicking below the belt or above the shoulders is one such example. but whatever blows your hair back I guess.

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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2019, 07:56:33 pm »
One of the things that turned me completely off when I did try looking at UFC was that they take traditional karate and completely dirty it to appeal to those who mindlessly enjoy violence. Punching, kicking below the belt or above the shoulders is one such example. but whatever blows your hair back I guess.

When mixed martial arts was a new idea, people had this idea that kung-fu masters and karate fighters would be knocking everybody out left and right.  And what actually happened was that grapplers completely dominated-- wrestlers and especially Brazilian jiu-jitsu experts.  It turns out that stuff that was effective against wooden planks or looked cool in movies wasn't effective against opponents who could take you off your feet and twist your joints in directions they're not supposed to bend.  That's why nobody in mixed martial arts does karate the way you learned it at Sensei Randy's.


Well apparently your presumptive DNA theory doesn't apply as you think it does. Mine doesn't in any way instruct me to get any kind of jolly either by whacking someone else over the head or even watch such sick ****. I studied karate, (the title of which means school of peace" because it made my body much more fit and if anything it made me much less likely to want to fight anybody. Ironically the only time I used karate outside the dojo was at a bar across the street where I used to go for a cold one after class while waiting for my gal to pick me up on the way home. Some dolt found out from the bar tender that I was a bit of a regular who showed up after class. He challenged me verbally and when I ignored him he did so physically as well. He found himself thrown out the front door into the street and banned for life by the bar. That's the kind of idiot I suspect ho likes to see people bashing each other. Not anywhere near my dna formula.

ok, Karate Man.



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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2019, 12:31:10 am »
When mixed martial arts was a new idea, people had this idea that kung-fu masters and karate fighters would be knocking everybody out left and right.  And what actually happened was that grapplers completely dominated-- wrestlers and especially Brazilian jiu-jitsu experts.  It turns out that stuff that was effective against wooden planks or looked cool in movies wasn't effective against opponents who could take you off your feet and twist your joints in directions they're not supposed to bend.  That's why nobody in mixed martial arts does karate the way you learned it at Sensei Randy's.


ok, Karate Man.



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Hey like I say, if watching a couple twits bash each other around until blood and snot are coming out of their noses, feel free to indulge. I prefer a rather more artistic approach.

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Re: Ultimate Facepunching Championships!
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2019, 04:29:05 pm »
Hey like I say, if watching a couple twits bash each other around until blood and snot are coming out of their noses, feel free to indulge. I prefer a rather more artistic approach.

Artistic approach to what?  A martial arts technique either works or it doesn't for self defense, as can now be scientifically demonstrated in real fights.

Blood in MMA is a superficial cut to the skin, and 99.9% of cuts & loss of blood to a fighter poses absolutely no danger to them.  There are doctors at ringside, if a bad cut opens that won't shut and results in large losses of blood, the fight is stopped, which is very rare anyways.  If people are squeamish & still don't like seeing a bloody nose, i get that.

Strikes that could cause serious permanent injury, like strikes to the eyes, back of the head/spine, groin etc. are banned.  Techniques that would not end a fight but would cause serious or permanent injury, like biting or breaking fingers, are also banned.

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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2019, 08:29:01 pm »
Something else that should be pointed out is that Cyborg received 13 strikes total in that fight.  A boxer can receive hundreds of strikes during a fight.

When Cyborg received that final punch, the referee ended the fight.  If that had been a boxing match, the fight wouldn't have been over.  The referee would have sent Amanda back to the corner, stood Cyborg up, and given her time to recover so that she could keep fighting and get keep getting battered.

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Re: Ultimate Facepunching Championships!
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2019, 09:04:15 pm »
Artistic approach to what?  A martial arts technique either works or it doesn't for self defense, as can now be scientifically demonstrated in real fights.

Blood in MMA is a superficial cut to the skin, and 99.9% of cuts & loss of blood to a fighter poses absolutely no danger to them.  There are doctors at ringside, if a bad cut opens that won't shut and results in large losses of blood, the fight is stopped, which is very rare anyways.  If people are squeamish & still don't like seeing a bloody nose, i get that.

Strikes that could cause serious permanent injury, like strikes to the eyes, back of the head/spine, groin etc. are banned.  Techniques that would not end a fight but would cause serious or permanent injury, like biting or breaking fingers, are also banned.

I didn't study karate for self defense, nor did the majority of the people during my time in the dojo. But rather for the health and fitness, and for trying to perfect the moves. I find it sad that martial arts have been bastardized to give people who like to see black eyes and bloody noses their jollies.

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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2019, 09:19:58 pm »
I didn't study karate for self defense, nor did the majority of the people during my time in the dojo. But rather for the health and fitness, and for trying to perfect the moves. I find it sad that martial arts have been bastardized

Martial arts were developed for fighting-- hence the name.  If anyone has bastardized the martial arts, it's those who view it as some kind of **** Billy Blanks Tae-Bo jazzercise bullshit.

to give people who like to see black eyes and bloody noses their jollies.

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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2019, 10:19:20 pm »
Martial arts were developed for fighting-- hence the name.  If anyone has bastardized the martial arts, it's those who view it as some kind of **** Billy Blanks Tae-Bo jazzercise bullshit.

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Like those black eyes and bloody noses eh? I'm sure the good folks at UFC will keep you entertained.

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Re: Ultimate Facepunching Championships!
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2019, 10:51:53 pm »
I didn't study karate for self defense, nor did the majority of the people during my time in the dojo. But rather for the health and fitness, and for trying to perfect the moves. I find it sad that martial arts have been bastardized to give people who like to see black eyes and bloody noses their jollies.

If you like doing it for fitness, that's fine.

Post-Bruce Lee, martial arts, originally developed for warfare in Asia, had been bastardized into classes sold to people who wanted to pretend to look like Bruce Lee & Van Damme when the fights in those movies were stupidly unrealistic.  And so they were taught stupidly unrealistic techniques that have been proven useless in real fights.

Thanks to MMA, Amanda Nunes can easily render temporarily unconscious virtually any well-built man north of 200lbs who has a black belt in karate or kung-fu or Taekwondo and nothing else.  That is a beauty of human achievement & gives me jollies.  Some don't agree, to each their own.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2019, 12:15:39 am »
If you like doing it for fitness, that's fine.

Post-Bruce Lee, martial arts, originally developed for warfare in Asia, had been bastardized into classes sold to people who wanted to pretend to look like Bruce Lee & Van Damme when the fights in those movies were stupidly unrealistic.  And so they were taught stupidly unrealistic techniques that have been proven useless in real fights.

Thanks to MMA, Amanda Nunes can easily render temporarily unconscious virtually any well-built man north of 200lbs who has a black belt in karate or kung-fu or Taekwondo and nothing else.  That is a beauty of human achievement & gives me jollies.  Some don't agree, to each their own.

Boy I'm glad I had a real dojo to go to. You got suckered it seems.

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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2019, 03:30:01 pm »
If you don't like it, more power to you, it's certainly not for everyone, it is violent.  But this sick **** it literally bred into our DNA.  We are literally built to fight. Virtually every male, and many females, constantly fantasize about this sick **** from the time they're able to pick up a GI Joe or a water-gun.  Virtually every high-grossing film is based on fulfilling the fantasy of fighting & violence.  Watching MMA fulfills a vital evolutionary need in the human psyche of most men, and many females.  If nobody is permanently brain damaged, I'm all good with it.  There's been a few fights that turned my stomach.

Because of MMA, martial arts has evolved more in the last 25 years than in the previous 2500 years.  I have a black belt in a "traditional" martial art, got it a long time ago.  I can virtually guarantee your brown belt in Wado Ryu karate is next to worthless in an actual fight with someone who knows even a little bit about real fighting, because my black belt is too.  Take it from someone who practiced this kind of stuff for countless hours, this kind of useless nonsense was an almost complete waste of your time & money in terms of self-defense:



My brown belt is only "useless" if I abide by the strict rules of the dojo. If someone seriously threatens me on the street, I don't have to follow those rules anymore. I will plant my mawashi in places where it's not allowed in the dojo, so this idea some folks have that karate experience is of no use in a street fight is ridiculous. Our sensei used to say, "if someone challenges you physically on the street, turn and run away, if he can't catch up to you, he wasn't a worthy opponent anyway."

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« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2019, 12:00:38 am »
My brown belt is only "useless" if I abide by the strict rules of the dojo. If someone seriously threatens me on the street, I don't have to follow those rules anymore. I will plant my mawashi in places where it's not allowed in the dojo, so this idea some folks have that karate experience is of no use in a street fight is ridiculous. Our sensei used to say, "if someone challenges you physically on the street, turn and run away, if he can't catch up to you, he wasn't a worthy opponent anyway."

okay, Karate Man.



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