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Offline MH

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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #390 on: March 18, 2021, 04:50:38 am »
What is a benchmark for diversity of employees by an employer?

How about - the employees in your organization are within a standard deviation of representation percentages in the population as a whole, based on general race numbers ? 

A "benchmark" is something to measure against, though, so to say an employer isn't doing this isn't to make a conclusion about the employer.  I worked for employers who had large numbers of gay employees, Jewish employees, and Chinese employees that were discriminatory and evil in their own way. 

I feel that these discussions need to separate those who are arguing in good faith, who are open to ideas vs. those who are only pushing an ideology. 

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« Reply #391 on: March 18, 2021, 04:54:11 am »
Read it again.  Then read it again.  Then email them and ask them what their specific quota numbers are.  They don't publish it because they pull it out of their bums.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quota

I don't think that the government is mandated to meet certain numbers.  If they didn't they couldn't function.

But...

Why don't we just agree on the basics so we can move on ?  I propose a dual set of axioms:

1) No employer should hire based on race alone
2) Racism is a still a problem that needs attention
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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #392 on: March 18, 2021, 02:29:02 pm »
Given the context, itís an aspirational goal.

What evidence do you have for that claim?

They are setting "benchmarks", which is a specific target number to what would be considered a "just" % of people from group X, Y, Z etc being properly represented.  And departments are either encouraged or mandated (we don't know which) to reach those numbers by encouraging employment candidates to self-identity as members of these groups so that the gov can do affirmative action during the hiring process.

And there's nothing wrong with that, because discrimination against these groups does occur.  It simply depends on how they're formulating these "benchmarks", and what is considered a "just" and "unjust" number and why.
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