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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2020, 01:23:16 pm »
He doesn't deserve your sympathy. People remember that Ghomeshi was acquitted of sexual assault, but people forget that he treated female employees at CBC like garbage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-cathryn-borel-sexual-assault-charge-1.3576702

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/cbc-apology-kathryn-borel-ghomeshi-peace-bond-1.3577223

CBC's inquiry into how their management handled complaints about Ghomeshi resulted in 2 managers being fired.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/cbc-inquiry-concludes-management-mishandled-jian-ghomeshi-1.3035574

Bad publicity from the criminal charges was the catalyst that led to the rest of this stuff becoming public. 

He deserved to be fired for the way he treated other employees.

The only reason he didn't get fired sooner was that the network brass thought that he was their star, and felt that the women who he abused were expendable if it kept him happy.

He's a goon who bullied and degraded women because he knew that he could get away with it.

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Thanks for your reply to this very interesting topic kimmy. Personally, I could never do what Ghomeshi did but I'll always wonder about whether any of the women involved were into S&M with him. His behaviour was disgusting to say the least.

The question becomes valid considering that he wasn't charged and prosecuted for his crimes. There's also no doubt that he did pretty much what he was accused of doing.

And my guess is that he's likely still doing it, albeit from a safer vocation that doesn't make his activities prohibitive. Do you think so? We both know that what happens in the bedrooms of Canada, remains the business of the participants.
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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #166 on: November 17, 2020, 09:06:42 pm »
ATTENTION!  ATTENTION!  Stand by for Important Information from the Department of Inclusive Language!

Henceforth, Trans Women are to be referred to as Women!

Also

Henceforth, adult human females are to be referred to as menstruators, gestators, lactators, human milk feeders, cervix-havers, uterus-bearers, or birthing bodies.


That is all!  Go about your business!

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« Reply #167 on: November 17, 2020, 09:09:49 pm »
Congratulations to Sarah McBride, first woman elected to a US State Senate!

Also, congratulations to Kamala Harris, first cervix-haver elected to the position of US Vice President.

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« Reply #168 on: November 17, 2020, 09:27:00 pm »
Congratulations to Sarah McBride, first woman elected to a US State Senate!

Also, congratulations to Kamala Harris, first cervix-haver elected to the position of US Vice President.

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That'll drive the GOP senators nuts. Which washrooms will she use?
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« Reply #169 on: November 18, 2020, 09:06:55 am »
That'll drive the GOP senators nuts. Which washrooms will she use?

She can just decide on a daily basis which gender she feels like being, and use the appropriate bathroom. 

And, for complete equality, all the uterus-havers and penis-holders can do the same. 

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« Reply #170 on: November 18, 2020, 09:54:01 am »
I had a response to kimmy that I lost somehow...

basically an acknowledgement that 'femininity' as a proxy for womanhood is a restricting concept and people should be free to be 'feminine' or not and still be a woman
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« Reply #171 on: November 18, 2020, 10:08:53 am »
She can just decide on a daily basis which gender she feels like being, and use the appropriate bathroom. 

And, for complete equality, all the uterus-havers and penis-holders can do the same.

That's an interesting point, Juniper.  This new gender-neutral language fad seems to not apply to men. Women now get referred to by their body parts or bodily functions, yet it seems like men continue to be called men. Is that the case? Can any testicle-havers weigh in?

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« Reply #172 on: November 18, 2020, 11:48:10 am »
That's an interesting point, Juniper.  This new gender-neutral language fad seems to not apply to men. Women now get referred to by their body parts or bodily functions, yet it seems like men continue to be called men. Is that the case? Can any testicle-havers weigh in?

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I like things to be simplified.  If somebody says 'Call me Sheila' I will do that, no problem.  If they think I'm a homophobe because I won't have sex with a guy... that's an opinion.   

I don't feel like there is much call for alarm on these questions.  Note that the word 'much' is there.  As with J. Peterson's initial fears there are things to keep your eyes open on, and this is what the letter in Harpers was about (not cancel culture IMO)... making sure to keep the dialogue open.

There are always things to watch and be concerned over but they can/do come up rarely and shouldn't dominate the mainstream discussion.

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« Reply #173 on: November 18, 2020, 11:55:13 am »
This is a good thread to keep going! And maybe some will have gathered up enough courage to discuss Ghomeshi again, and some of his women who preferred it rough. Note I say, just 'some'.
It's a very sensitive topic for most women but with luck we have one or two that have the courage and the interest.
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« Reply #174 on: November 18, 2020, 12:00:29 pm »
This is a good thread to keep going! And maybe some will have gathered up enough courage to discuss Ghomeshi again, and some of his women who preferred it rough. Note I say, just 'some'.
It's a very sensitive topic for most women but with luck we have one or two that have the courage and the interest.

Not really on topic nor ... anything to be said on that topic really.  Are you going to have a thread speculating on Ghomeshi's encounters ?

Sounds like a non-starter.

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« Reply #175 on: November 18, 2020, 12:07:16 pm »
Not really on topic nor ... anything to be said on that topic really.  Are you going to have a thread speculating on Ghomeshi's encounters ?

Sounds like a non-starter.

I don't see there being enough courage being displayed by anyone yet. And even less intelligence.

Supposing that the topic would even be allowed here?
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« Reply #176 on: November 18, 2020, 12:19:10 pm »
That's an interesting point, Juniper.  This new gender-neutral language fad seems to not apply to men. Women now get referred to by their body parts or bodily functions, yet it seems like men continue to be called men. Is that the case? Can any testicle-havers weigh in?

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Seems to be the case. Don't know why. Is it a man thing or a woman thing?
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« Reply #177 on: November 18, 2020, 01:40:11 pm »
I don't see there being enough courage being displayed by anyone yet. And even less intelligence.

Supposing that the topic would even be allowed here?

What does it have to do with courage ?  We don't know these people... speculating about their sex lives or propensity for assaulting others isn't brave.

You seem to be trolling.
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« Reply #178 on: November 18, 2020, 01:51:17 pm »
What does it have to do with courage ?  We don't know these people... speculating about their sex lives or propensity for assaulting others isn't brave.

You seem to be trolling.

The legal agreement and the arrangement CBC had with Ghomeshi worked to cancel out any chance of Ghomeshi pursuing a lawsuit any further.
And that's not to suggest that public sentiments were totally and completely turned in his victims' favour.

I'm simply asking for anybody to comment on how much S&M was involved in the whole issue. But not suggesting that it was a factor with all of the women. The whole thing was put down by CBC so quickly that we never did get a chance to learn the whole story.

So you're being a little bit brave, but not really very brave. Good for you!
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« Reply #179 on: November 18, 2020, 02:05:45 pm »
1. The legal agreement and the arrangement CBC had with Ghomeshi worked to cancel out any chance of Ghomeshi pursuing a lawsuit any further.
And that's not to suggest that public sentiments were totally and completely turned in his victims' favour.

2. I'm simply asking for anybody to comment on how much S&M was involved in the whole issue. But not suggesting that it was a factor with all of the women. The whole thing was put down by CBC so quickly that we never did get a chance to learn the whole story.

3. So you're being a little bit brave, but not really very brave. Good for you!
1. Ok.  It's over five years old - go find a thread on it I guess
2. What ?  Comment on HOW MUCH ?  How it that a topic ?  It's a matter of public record go look it up.
3. You are a lot weird.  There's no controversy here, nor do you have to be brave to discuss matters of public record.  It's a dull topic.