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Offline kimmy

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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2020, 06:58:56 pm »
After months of being pressured to add her "pronouns" to her Twitter bio, actress and former MMA fighter Gina Carano has acquiesced to the woke mob, and added her pronouns. Her pronouns are.... "beep/boop".

Here's how that went over:





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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2020, 07:01:29 pm »
For the record I think Gina Carano is a goddess and I would have her children if it were biologically possible.  But it isn't, regardless of how I choose to identify.

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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2020, 07:11:43 pm »
These "wanted" posters were found at the BLM protests in Toronto earlier this summer.  Misogyny is a-ok with progressive people... provided it's directed at the right target.



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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2020, 07:37:24 pm »
Progressives now have #RIPJKRowling trending on Twitter.

Woke people are scum.   Woke people are dog crap.

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Because she believes in transgender rights but that biological sex is not changeable.  Scandalous!
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2020, 07:45:17 pm »
Imagine being so disgusting of a human being as to believe that a transwoman and a woman are 2 different things.

Imagine how disgusting it would be to not have transwomen bashing the heads in of women in the same ring in the UFC.  Imagine a man bashing in the head of a transman.  Imagine the nerve of the UFC possibly creating 2 separate categories for them.

Imagine requesting a woman to be your gynecologist and getting a transwoman and you can't refuse cuz transphobia.
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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2020, 08:41:36 pm »
Why is it news that mobs exist though ?

There are lots of idiots about, I have noticed... 

We don't tweet about the MAGA bunch much here either.  Because it's boring to be outraged all the time...
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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2020, 11:40:27 pm »
After months of being pressured to add her "pronouns" to her Twitter bio, actress and former MMA fighter Gina Carano has acquiesced to the woke mob, and added her pronouns. Her pronouns are.... "beep/boop".

Here's how that went over:

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I didn't know who she was, but I googled.  She is also a COVIDIOT and anti-BLM.  I didn't find anything about months of being pressured into anything, just that she was being deliberately antagonizing with the beep/boop which isn't all that surprising for a COVIDIOT/anti-BLM.

From what I'm getting, I think the anger goes beyond the pronouns. 

Meh, but hey she got people like me googling who she is, so I guess any publicity is good publicity.

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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2020, 09:57:32 am »
One thing all zealots have in common, they believe the end justifies the means. They will use tactics that they would condemn in anyone else because their cause is sacred

Demanding someone do something to show their support for you is just simple coercion. 

Three cheers for people like Rowling and Carano for having the guts to stand up to these bullies.
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2020, 10:40:14 am »

Three cheers for people like Rowling and Carano for having the guts to stand up to these bullies.

Nothing you have said here justifies Rowling's position.

Basically you have said "bullies oppose her - good for her for resisting them" ... but the subject itself is not referenced.  That's the problem with tribalism in politics today.  The objectivity of the facts are absolutely not part of the discussion.

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« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2020, 11:30:20 am »
Nothing you have said here justifies Rowling's position.

Basically you have said "bullies oppose her - good for her for resisting them" ... but the subject itself is not referenced.  That's the problem with tribalism in politics today.  The objectivity of the facts are absolutely not part of the discussion.

After reading Rowling's essay, I couldn't disagree more.

I do agree that tribalism kills objectivity.
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« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2020, 12:47:59 pm »
After reading Rowling's essay, I couldn't disagree more.

I do agree that tribalism kills objectivity.

You disagree that you didn't post any substance ?

Fine then - where was it ?

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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2020, 01:45:06 pm »
You disagree that you didn't post any substance ?

Fine then - where was it ?

The substance is in her essay.

I don't understand where you are coming from.

BC Cheque is one of the most open minded people in this place yet she has said she won't express support for Rowling on Twitter or even post a like because she isn't prepared to put up with the abuse that will follow. You seem to blow that off as inconsequential.

What is your problem with biological women sticking up for themselves and each other?
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« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2020, 01:54:12 pm »
The substance is in her essay.

Ok ... you said you couldn't disagree more with me, and yet I didn't say anything about her essay.

I said that you just applauded her, by saying there were some unruly people against her... but that's true of any position.

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BC Cheque is one of the most open minded people in this place yet she has said she won't express support for Rowling on Twitter or even post a like because she isn't prepared to put up with the abuse that will follow. You seem to blow that off as inconsequential.

It's two questions:

1. Is there a progressive mob that is unruly, irrational, unfair, abusive and so on ?
2. Is JK Rowling's argument sound ?

The answer to 1 is 'definitely'
The answer to 2 is 'maybe' but it has nothing to do with #1. 

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What is your problem with biological women sticking up for themselves and each other?

Most of JK's essay, at least at the top, is about crazy people harassing her.   It has nothing to do with #2.  She has some good ideas, that should lead to a good debate.  It's hard to do because of #1.  She also has some bad ideas, like people should be able to write whatever they want without consequence.

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Re: The Progressive Thread!
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2020, 02:13:26 pm »
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Most of JK's essay, at least at the top, is about crazy people harassing her.   It has nothing to do with #2.  She has some good ideas, that should lead to a good debate.  It's hard to do because of #1.  She also has some bad ideas, like people should be able to write whatever they want without consequence.

They can't though, can they. Anyone who doesn't toe the line gets silenced. Brutally if necessary. We are even seeing it in our universities.
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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2020, 02:29:11 pm »
1. They can't though, can they.
2. Anyone who doesn't toe the line gets silenced.
3. Brutally if necessary. We are even seeing it in our universities.
1. No they can't
2. I wouldn't agree with your characterization.  People who make extreme statements get stigmatized in society, not much to be said about that.
3. There are some efforts to extinguish free discussion, I agree, but not clear to me if this registers as a serious problem or not.  ie. if the scale of this warrants a general concern