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Offline TimG

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Re: The End of the World Thread
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2019, 09:18:54 pm »
You obstinately refuse to acknowledge that what humans are doing to this planet is not a natural phenomena and there is no reason to believe that being able to adapt is a given.
I never said that. I am saying that:

if we can't adapt then emission reductions are also futile and we are screwed;
if we can adapt then emission reductions are still futile but also cause harm by limiting our ability to adapt;

There is no plausible future scenario where emission reductions makes sense as a primary policy objective.

That does not mean we should not make some effort to reduce emissions. Just that these efforts should be limited to things which are cost effective. The more important point is we need to reject the notion that emission reductions will make any difference because they can't.

Offline Granny

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Re: The End of the World Thread
« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2019, 03:07:31 am »
The more important point is we need to reject the notion that emission reductions will make any difference because they can't.
Link?
Try this one
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/482/cleaning-the-air-would-limit-short-term-climate-warming/
What did you find? Would reducing black carbon and ozone have a significant climate impact?
The answer is unequivocally yes. For climate, putting control measures in place could eliminate about half the warming we'll otherwise face over the next 40 years.

Does that mean reducing carbon dioxide isn't important?
No, not at all. Over the long-term, carbon dioxide increases are the primary driver of climate change. In order to mitigate climate change, there is no way we can ignore or overlook carbon dioxide. But we could make a major dent in climate change in the near term by controlling black carbon and ozone.


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Offline MH

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« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2020, 04:54:17 am »
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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2020, 12:29:39 pm »
I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.
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