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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2021, 02:50:25 pm »
WOO IT'S THE F*CKIN PLAYOFFS LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO OILERS

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2021, 03:08:58 pm »
Bo Taoshi ?

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2021, 12:02:16 am »
Bo Taoshi ?

No thanks; just ate.

WOO IT'S THE F*CKIN PLAYOFFS LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO OILERS

Well, this is off to a disappointing start.

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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2021, 12:45:06 am »
I did enjoy the Canucks and Flames having their own best-of-three series while the other teams were having real playoffs. I thought it was cute.

You know when you were a kid, and the other kids went to a party or something without you and you felt sad and left out, and your mom says "it's okay, sweetie, we can have our own party, just us two!" and your party was watching The Muppet Movie on VHS and eating microwave popcorn with mom?  That was the Canucks and Flames series this week.  Congratulations to the Flames for winning the Muppets And Popcorn Cup.

Also, I don't know what that's like.  Mom never had a fake party for me when I felt left out. She just laughed and said "see, nobody else likes you either."

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2021, 09:44:20 pm »
What the hell is with the Oilers?
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« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2021, 10:07:52 pm »
What the hell is with the Oilers?

1) lack of depth. Defense was pretty good, goaltending was good this year, but after McDavid and Draisaitl the forward corps is not very good. Jesse Puljujarvi has lots of promise, and RNH is a solid player, but overall aside from those four the forward corps is no better than replacement level. ("Replacement level" = you could go out on the free agent market and hire a player as good or better for the same money.) This is something Ken Holland has been working on since he was hired. I think he is doing a good job. As he gets out from under some bad contracts, I think this will continue to improve.

2) Not good with adversity. We saw it last year against the Blackhawks. We saw it this season in early March when the Leafs completely dominated them in that 3-game series. We saw it again this series. They seem to panic or get frustrated when the going gets tough.

3) the referees don't call penalties during the playoffs. A big part of the Oilers' regular season success was having an awesome powerplay.  With no powerplays, it eliminates that part of the Oilers' success.


4) the referees don't call penalties during the playoffs. A big part of the Oilers' regular season success was having an awesome powerplay.  With no powerplays, it eliminates that part of the Oilers' success.

5) the referees don't call penalties during the playoffs. McDavid didn't draw a single penalty during this playoff series. All the obstruction and grabbing that was used against McDavid and not a single penalty was called, it makes having a superstar forward pretty pointless.  Seeing Jets globbed all over Draisaitl like a bunch of human lampreys attached to a whale-shark and the refs say "that's PLAYOFF HOCKEY!^tm" is basically NHL standard practice, but it's still bullshit. Letting superstar players be neutralized by low-skill players playing octopus style hockey has been going on for longer than I have been alive, but it's still crap.
 
6) lack of experience.  I feel like they need to bring in some veterans and some "heart and soul" players. Thinking back to 2006, Chris Pronger didn't just provide the Oilers a superstar presence on the ice, he also provided an in-person culture transfusion off the ice. The Oilers' trainer at the time said that when Pronger got there, suddenly everybody was in the gym all the time, because Chris was in the gym all the time. They were doing it because Chris was doing it. That kind of thing. Chris was having dinner nights out and dinners at his place and and stuff like that and everybody wanted to be involved because that's what Chris was doing. I can only imagine how the Oilers' history might have been different if Chris Pronger hadn't asked for a trade after the 2006 season.  For a non-Oilers' example, consider the Dallas Stars "Grumpy Old Men" line that helped them win the Stanley Cup.   The "Grumpy Old Men" were Kirk Muller and a couple of other guys I can't remember who had between them hundreds of games of playoff experience and numerous Stanley Cup rings, and even though they were well past their prime by the time the Stars brought them in, they were still able to provide something that the younger players on the Stars could feed off and learn from.  On the 2021 Oilers, I don't see anybody comparable, aside from maybe goalie Mike Smith who was everything they could have asked for at age 40.

6a)  my ass was on national TV during the 2006 Stanley Cup finals. CBC had on location live TV at the bar I was working at. The front half of me, as far as I know, never made it to air, but my friends told me that the back half of me did, and I am sure that for a brief moment in time Canadians from coast to coast to coast were thinking in unison, "that is thicc, yo."

7) lots of teams flop during the playoffs, but having McDavid on our team brings extra scrutiny to this flop.

8) the Jets deserve some respect. They have more playoff experience than the Oilers.  They played very well. They have an excellent coach, Paul Maurice.  They were in 2nd place for most of the season, and the Oilers only passed them because the Jets had a late-season slump during which some key players (especially Nik Ehlers) were out of the lineup. The Jets are a good hockey team.

9) overall this is still a work in progress. Ken Holland inherited a mess. He has made a lot of progress. I think the Oilers' organization is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was under Chiarelli, but there is still a lot to do. Right now being dependent on a 41 year old goalie is a worry. Being dependent on a forwards corps of McJesus, Dr Drai, RNH, and 12 guys named Mo is a worry. I feel like this season's success was partly a mirage created by a combination of an epic powerplay, the all-Canadian division, fortuitous scheduling (ie, we played most of our games against Ottawa before Ottawa started finding themselves), and the abbreviated season.


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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2021, 10:22:01 pm »
If the Oilers can't win, I'll always cheer for the Jets.

Also, although I will always hate Leafs fans, I have a hard time hating the current edition of the Leafs. They're fun to watch. Matthews is a phenom.  The only thing that keeps me from legitimately appreciating the current Maple Leafs is knowing that if they make the 3rd round of the playoffs the media hype will become unbearable.

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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2021, 08:06:38 am »
Very sad to say I can't watch hockey anymore.

It's been years since I stopped watching... I think Sundin leaving the Leafs and the carnival spectacle of "shoot outs" did it in for me.

And the last time the Leafs-Habs played I don't think I took my eyes off the set, but I tried to watch game 1 and wasn't even interested.

My dad seems disappointed in me. 

Cute side story:  Easy just happens to LOVE the word TORONTO.  He says it over and over again when he hears it, like he can taste the individual letters !  On our last Zoom call, my dad got cheeky and tried to razz me about the Habs winning game one... I couldn't really care much and wished him the best so he asked Easy...

"Easy ... who is going to win tonight ?  Montreal or TORONTO ?"

Easy just beamed and keep saying TORONTO TORONTO TORONTO over and over again .... what a set-up...  :)

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2021, 12:44:16 pm »
HILARIOUS BASEBALL ERROR

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« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2021, 01:23:44 pm »
Saw that on the news last night. Hilarious, you wonder what was in that first base man's head.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2021, 03:38:56 pm »
Saw that on the news last night. Hilarious, you wonder what was in that first base man's head.

Could have just touched the bag.  He's dumb.
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2021, 03:39:54 pm »
What an interesting sequence.  And totally avoidable.  The pitcher didn’t need to follow the runner to home, or throw to home to try and get the runner from 3rd.  All he had to do was saunter back to first and touch the bag!  It would’ve been 3rd out and he run wouldn’t have scored!   

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Crazy!

Unfortunately, this is the only time baseball is even vaguely interesting.
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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2021, 12:00:26 am »
whaaa! Nothing sweeter than watching LeafsNation dropin' another one... while Craig Homer Simpson flies his MapleLeaf colours!

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2021, 12:54:20 am »
Could have just touched the bag.  He's dumb.

I have to correct myself.  He could have touched the 1B bag, but he decided to follow the runner back and tag him, which isn't a big deal because he would have eventually tagged him, but he didn't anticipate the runner from 2B trying to score and didn't know what to do so he panicked and threw the ball.  The only thing he needed to do is at any point tag the runner, even after the guy scored, and the run wouldn't have counted because there were 2 outs.  And the second baseman was picking his nose and didn't cover first at the end of the play because he assumed the runner was going to be tagged out by the first baseman because any fool would do that.  So all he had to do at any point is touch first base or tag the runner, both very easy to do, and failed to do either, so ya he's dumb.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Sports Culture
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2021, 04:56:56 am »
I have watched the clip about seven times and still laugh.
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